Thread 720509661

What are your top 5 CRPGs?

Bg3
Wasteland 3
Divinity original sin 2
Disco elysium
All the rest are boring

in no order
>fallout 2
>atom rpg
>underrail
>age of decadence
>arcanum

>>720509661 (OP)
Planescape: Torment
Baldurs Gate 2
Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous (modded)
KOTOR 2
Arcanum

>>720509661 (OP)
I don't know about top five, but Arcanum is definitely my absolute favourite. Can't tell you how many times I've played it. In fact I'm going to replay it right now. I'll speedrun to The Void with a minmaxed tech build, my last playthroughs have all been magical.

crpg is such a terrible genre

>>720510096
the community edition (reverse engineered open source version) released this month. don't think it's worth playing currently but it opens up cool possibilities for modding/porting if people are dedicated enough

>>720510093
how do you slog through pathfinder wotr? even when i modded out the god-awful homm clone that is on the map ive only gotten as far as the demon city and just quit out of boredom, its just endless encounters of trashmobs and dull dei characters, feels like the game is a job instead of an enjoyable experience

>>720510374
Link? I couldn't find anything about this on Google. Are you not thinking of the ToEE Steam release?

>>720509743
Man Divinity is so great. I love how when I enter a town where the entire population was brutally tortured and ritual murdered in the most dick, gruesome way by psychotic orcs and not-vikings, the very compsnions who gleefully carried out vengeful murder on these cultists call me a demon with a wretched, rotten heart the moment I suggest we blackmail two of these cultists who happen yo be an interspecies gay couple. Called the most evil piece of shit alive by the cynical misanthropic necromancer who sees all life as expendable tools towards his end goal, even. Because no matter what, respect and veneration LGBTQI+ goes above everything, even such silly concepts as "roleplay".

Larian truly are the masters of their craft. Their craft being talentless, deranged, mentally ill retards.

>>720510563
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/arcanum-reversed-engineered-ce-is-released.154346/

>>720509661 (OP)
tyranny
Torment Tides of Numenera
kotor 1
kotor 2
bg3

BG2
DO:S
Deadfire
BG3
Icewind Dale


Honorable mentions:
Encased
Kingmaker
Tyranny

Bg3
Bg2
Ps:t
Rogue trader
Deadfire

>>720509661 (OP)
1. Age of Decadence, my beloved depraved fetish RPG built for me and me alone, it's a shame that Colony Ship is trash
2. Fallout 1, had been my favorite until AoD
3. Baldur's Gate 3, main reason I'm saying 3 over 1 or 2 is because I've played those so much already and even though I've done 4 full plays of BG3 with a 5th in progress I will probably be re-playing it more than the first two games for at least the near future, similar reasoning with Fallout 1 getting the nod since I replay it the most
4. Morrowind, it's mostly up here due to TR because I'd still rate Morrowind highly but TR is what pushes it into the best
5. Neverwinter Nights, played it a ton at launch, made modules and did scripting for other people's modules, first game I ever bought DLC for, still play it a lot now. This is another one where it's the modding that boosts it up here since the Wailing Death is garbage even if the expansion campaigns are fun, but as janky and messy as the game is it's still absolutely one of my all-time favorites

>>720510096
Just got my Vendigroth Device yesterday.
It's amazing how even with a mod buffing guns greatly, they still manage to suck for a little while.
18 Perception requirement feels like 10 levels of gaining absolutely nothing of value, unlike the dexterity req of every other single combat skill in the game.

>>720510492
>Modded out
You do know you can set it to skip in the options menu, right?

>>720510798
>>720510874
Never played Tyranny. What makes it stand out?

>>720509661 (OP)
i played underrail, fallout 1, and geneforge... idk i don't play a lot of crpgs.

>>720509661 (OP)
Fallout 1
Icewind Dale
Wizardry 6
Might and Magic 4+5
Baldur's Gate 2

I don't like them anymore. Dropped the genre after I flushed:
Divinity OS 1
Wasteland 2
Pillars of Eternity 1
Kingmaker
Baldur's Gate 3

>>720509661 (OP)
>Planescape Torment
>Deus Ex
>Fallout
>Arcanum
>Underrail

>>720509661 (OP)
BG2
NWN (Hordes)
WotR
Deadfire
Underrail

I don't know how to evaluate the "best" but if i search my feelings, these are the CRPG games that gave me the most enjoyment.

>>720511719
Cool brutal bronze age setting and mint spellcrafting system.

>>720511719
Not those anons, but it's got a neat spell system (You find runes which can be combined to customize and make spells. So you get to customize your spells AND it gives casters something to be excited for when looting since new runes means new magic) and a neat semi-bronze age early iron age setting with some cool wrinkles for how shit works, and it's very reactive and choice-friendly and lends itself well to replaying. The two biggest weak points (For me at least) are it has relatively boring encounter design for how common combat is since enemy variety's very limited and not used that creatively, and it's extremely easy to spread your skills across the party so you'll have a 100% chance to pass any skill check that lets you make a party-roll rather than PC-only

>>720512014
>don't know how to evaluate the "best"
General rule of thumb is come up with the names that first come to mind, then for ordering just think about what you'd most like to play among them and sort it that way

>>720509743
Peak normiecore

dude sex
arcanum
fallout 2
vampire bloodlines
jackie chan adventures the game

>>720510105
is right though the genre is kind of fucked. the fanbase is mega autistic and extremely demanding while also having no clue what they actually want from a game.

>>720512389
the whole genre is "normiecore"

>>720512309
>>720511719
Also the companions tilt too female, Lantry and Barik are the only bros you can run, I get that the setting is a matriarchy but I still think it was the first sign Obsidian was being gay. At least Siren is accidently erotic.

>>720509661 (OP)
If we talking about only isometric/party based then:
Fallout classic and its mods
BG2
Dragon Age Origins
Underrail
Arcanum

>>720512548
>Oil in the quick items

Arcanum
Planescape
Underrail
Neverwinternights 2
Fallout Sonora (mod)

Baldur's Gate 1
Neverwinter Nights 1

those are the only ones I really cared for, but I didn't play many and I don't particularly like the genre.

>>720512546
Not really. Normalfags can't stand "UGH LE CLUNKINESS, THE LACK OF QOL" of the older games. So they just play the entry level reddit tier games like the ones you mentioned

>>720509661 (OP)
Knights of the Old Republic 1
Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous
Underrail
Pillars of Eternity (on hardest difficulty; I only like that game for its gameplay systems and dungeon/encounter designs)
idk maybe Fallout 2

>>720512548
SHE'S 16 YOU SICK FUCK

>>720509661 (OP)
KOTOR2
Icewind Dale
Morrowind
Baldur's Gate 1
Baldur's Gate 2

soier is a retard. best part of rpgs is dungeon crawling and waifus
>muh quests bro! muh politics!
yeah i totally care about the slightly different cutscene im gonna get bro

>>720513196
I actually restart if I don't get the cutscene/story outcome I want on second playthrough

>>720509661 (OP)
WOTR
BG3
Neverwinter
DOS 2
Planescape

>>720511719
Girlbosses.
The setting is kino but the game is really pozzed
I really find weird how lefties somehow combine Grimdark settings with 0 human rights and yet manage to put modern world social messages like you would give a fuck when no life is worth a shit in the game.

fallout 2
kotor 2
bg2
poe 2 (deadfire)
pathfinder 2 (wotr)

Arcanum
Shadowrun Dragonfall
Vampire The masquerade (does it count?)
BG3

I can't say I like CRPGs that much.

>>720512859
it's mostly how boring the games are to actually play and it's not like they are particularly deep in any way to compensate, combat is mostly memorizing and a knowledge check about some shit D&D system, stories adn NPC interactions are genuinely cringe most of the time, sometimes they have a cool setting like Fallout, but the game itself is still a chore to play.

>>720509661 (OP)
>Quest for Glory IV
>Wizardry 8
>Horizon's Gate
>Lands of Lore
>Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
Planescape's pretty dope, though.

>>720509661 (OP)
KotOR 2
Neverwinter Nights 2
Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous
Neverwinter Nights
Dragon Age Origins

nox
diablo 2
arx fatalis
dark souls
elden ring

>>720510798
>Tides of Numenera
Isn't that Monte Cook's gayass minimalist system?

>>720509661 (OP)
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Underrail
Arcanum
Wasteland 2
Wasteland 3
Atom

I don't enjoy Fantasy/DnD CRPGs. I dunno, I just hate the setting and characters. They feel more like a storybooks with less player agency.

>>720513913
If you've got QfG so high I assume you've played some of the modern homages, right?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/283880/Heroines_Quest_The_Herald_of_Ragnarok/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/270610/Mages_Initiation_Reign_of_the_Elements/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/375440/HeroU_Rogue_to_Redemption/

>>720514038
none of those are crpgs

>>720509661 (OP)
>Baldur's Gate 3
Things i like about it: 1.Level Design 2.Combat 3.Writing & Gameplay Reactivity/Interactivity 4.Character Performance (aka acting) 5.RPG mechanics

>Might and Magic 6
Things i like about it: 1.Exploration 2.RPG mechanics/Character customization 3.Addictive loot and spell systems 4.Aesthetics

>Fallout
Things i like about it: 1.Atmosphere 2.Perks 3.Dialogue 4.Faction systems

>Deus Ex (i dont think its one but its getting listed)
Things i like about it: 1.Level Design 2.Themes 3.Music 4.general Gameplay

>Divinity Original Sin 2
Things i like: 1.Level design 2.Combat 3.Narrator 4.Music 5.Co-op

>>720509661 (OP)
There are no good rpgs.

>>720514443
I've played Hero U and liked it just fine, but I haven't seen the other two. I'll definitely check them out.

>>720514968
what games do you like?

>>720514165
Arcanum is a fantasy RPG, though. It just happens to be a fantasy world that hit the Industrial Revolution.

>>720509661 (OP)
Tyranny
Disco Elysium
Underrail
Planescape: Torment
Pathfinder: Kingmaker
iso CRPGs are the epitome of old bad, new good.

>>720514443
>>720515075
you missed quest for infamy

>>720515196
Oh yeah, felt like there was one I was missing but I couldn't remember it

>>720515139
Planescape came out in 1999, though. And you really prefer Kingmaker over Wrath? Why?

>>720514867
If Deus Ex is disqualified then i replace it with Ultima 7 or Temple of Elemental Evil (modded)

>>720515309
I haven't played Wrath

>>720515309
>>720515383
Also Torment def stands the test of time. Shows that a phenomenal world and story can't get as outdated as graphics and gameplay can.

>>720515462
>Also Torment def stands the test of time
Not for people who play games for game design though.

>>720515506
Get it together, game designers!

>>720515138
i think its called steampunk

I need more games like Age of Decadence, Colony Ship barely hit the spot.

>>720515106
Every single genre except for rpgs

>>720509661 (OP)
kingmaker
wrath of the righteous
rogue trader
geneforge
avernum

BG2
BG2 with mods
BG2 with no companions
Deadfire
Planescape Torment

>>720515506
RPGs are the whole package and I'm willing to take some combat jank if exploring the world and discovering things through other types of rolls is fun. Almost all of these games have ways to cheese them anyway if you look hard enough.

>>720515941
>RPGs are the whole package
Except for the whole gameplay bit

>>720515885
>deadfire
huh

how

>>720515879
Geneforge and Avernum are pretty underrated. I like the Exile versions more, but it's a pain getting those games running on modern computers.

Fallout
Fallout Sonora
Fallout 2
Fallout Nevada
Olympus 2207

>>720513786
I will never get why people like Dragonfall so much
The plot twist was cool, but the hub area was lame and your party members are literally all annoying faggots
Hong Kong wasn't the best game ever made but at least I didn't want to shoot everyone and do missions by myself

>>720516250
>olympus over resurrection
i shiggy

>>720509910
>age of decadence
Is it actually good? I see anons talk about it every once in a while but I ignore it because the title sounds like one of those generic MMO flash games of old.

Tides of Numenera is an interesting setting and the story is told quite well, but the gameplay is just awful.

>>720516336
I haven't played resurrection yet

Olympus has excellent art but the dialog and story is ass

>>720516113
>only one steam friend owns queen's wish 2
>only one steam friend has it wishlisted
>only 64 reviews
vogelbros...

I spent a bit over an hour making my party in knights of the chalice 2 today just saved and quit immediately at the start for next session.
seems promising so far but i hear it's difficult and i'm bad at vidya

>>720516410
yes, it's short and highly repayable with tons of choices and consequences. just about everything is impactful, there's not really any trash encounters or busywork quests. great combat system and a cool world with lore and politics to get invested in

>>720516665
Sounds interesting, I might check it out. I don't think they did themselves any favors using the generic "Age of X" naming template.

>>720509661 (OP)
Baldur's Gate
Dragon Age Origins if it counts
Baldur's Gate 2
[power gap]
Shadowrun Dragonfall
Shadowrun Hong Kong if DaO didn't count

>>720511815
No I lied, it's actually
>Planescape Torment
>Deus Ex
>Mass Effect 2
>Fallout 3
>Shadowrun (SNES)
>>720511719
More ancient setting gives it a bit of a barbarian vibe. It was a woke game, but at the same time the team was trying to make an rpg with evil choices. It results in a lot of entertaining characters, dialogue, and choices imo. If I was going to replay a crpg, it would be at the top of my list because it's also short (it's unfinished).
That said, watch how you spend your money on it. Again it's unfinished, and all the dlcs are pretty much nonessential except for the biggest one which barely makes it.

>>720510874
>Deadfire
I keep trying to get into Pillars but I just can't. I can't into the classes

>>720516318
Even the razorgirl waifu?

>>720516457
Everything about it was awful. I'd rather replay a spiderweb game like Geneforge again for the story than re-play ToN. And I'm not even sure if the Geneforge games have stories. Maybe I should've paid more attention while playing them. But at least you can choose mostly non-retarded dialogue choices in them. I'm *still* mad that one of the first people who talks to you, after the tutorial area, in ToN is some guy advertising to you that he's a criminal and recruiting to free the dude being executed like 5 meters away, and you can't react to this guy telling you this by e.g., turning him in to the guards standing right fucking there. In a spiderweb game, you'd be able to do that. ToN was such a fucking atrocity, man. Lots of other gay shit like that in it too, like when you bring the little slave girl to the slaver, there's no skill check to keep her from escaping no matter how dexterous or strong or whatever you character is. Legit garbage game.

>>720517000
It has some cool shit desu. I like the ranger class that gets a free beast pet, even though all the subclasses have some kind of potentially fatal drawback, the concepts are neat. Still agree I couldn't get too deep into the meta. I actually finished PoE1 and I don't even remember what I did with my MC, it was psyker and I just got whatever.

>>720517000
I can't either but I think the classes are cool as hell.
Chanters are the coolest shit.

>>720515708
gacha?

>>720516924
>the same time the team was trying to make an rpg with evil choices. It results in a lot of entertaining characters, dialogue, and choices imo. If I was going to replay a crpg, it would be at the top of my list because it's also short (it's unfinished).
I shut it off and returned it after the first dialogue encounter. That chick walks up to you and starts immediately giving you sass, and there's no option to actually be EVIL in response to it. That right after the retarded intro section making you make choices with no context so they mean nothing. Fuck off.

>>720517217
I did literally nothing wrong and you are a sissy

>>720517000
unless you're playing on POTD difficulty, builds don't really matter all that much at the end of the day. prob will have some challenge if you're playing hard and fuck things up somehow completely, but otherwise it's not a tough game.

lot of good builds on youtube, etc. if you get lost along the way and don't want to give up on it.
>me (paladin tank)
>bird lady (paladin dps)
>chanter (buffs + light damage)
>priest (heals, etc.)
>ranger (pet build sustained dmg)
>wizard (cc+dmg)
bretty easy

>>720517515
faggy homo game for faggy homos. don't talk to me.

>>720517654
>Paladin DPS
>With Pallegina's statline
How're you turning that 12 MIG nerdbird into a DPS, anon?

>>720509661 (OP)
In no particular order
>BG2
>Divinity: Original Sin 2
>Fallout 1
>Arcanum
>Olympus 2207
But if you'll indulge me just 2 more
>BG3
>Underrail

>>720517935
oh you're right, she was off-tank. i can't remember if i changed companion stats in 1 or not, i know i did for deadfire since those are fucking horrible.

love my lil' bird

>>720509661 (OP)
Baldur's Gate 2
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect Trilogy (or just the first one if I can't lump all three together)
Planescape: Torment
SWtOR (no expansions, just the vanilla experience)

>>720516029
NTA but i stopped playing deadfire as soon as i have to pick faction to support, it had neat system, i like ship exploration but the pick your poison story is meh because i lose companion and it's too convoluted for me

>>720517654
deadfire pissed me off because it felt like they were intentionally trying to sabotage the flavor of the setting they chose. I wanted to be a pirate ranger with a parrot pet but it wasn't an option.

>>720509661 (OP)
>/v/ is better than rpgcodex-

iirc this month or next month they gonna release temple of elemental evil on steam? it's old dnd but turn based, is it good?

>>720510105
Arpg is much worse

>>720520395
You don't have to pick a faction, though. You just need to make sure you've purchased the best hull and sail upgrades for your ship, and you can pass through Ondra's Mortar on your own, without triggering any loyalty conflicts among your crew.

>>720520560
It's not our fault that there aren't exactly any obscure classic CRPGs. Like wtf am I supposed to say, Anachronox I guess? Mistmare maybe? At some point you just start saying obscure shit to feel special. Popular games can be good, it's not mutually exclusive.

>>720520720
It's a pretty decent dungeon crawl.
It implements D&D 3.5e really well too.
I wonder if the Circle of Eight mod will be compatible.

>>720520560
Isn't Knights of the Chalice 2 so blatantly targeted towards minmaxers that you genuinely can't afford to play certain classes in the default campaign?

>>720521012
EYE divine cybermancy

>>720520560
>Grimoire
Mute the soundtrack, otherwise you'll be slowly driven mad by blaring MIDI trumpets while trying to roll up your squad.

>>720521025
i hope it's not as punishing as wizardy though, i enjoy playing wizardy but i just too invested in my character and when one of them die i just push to resurrect them

>>720521189
Not obscure at all

>>720520560
Based taste

>>720520560
Disco Elysium, no Nioh, and BG3 ruined this.

But otherwise good

>>720514968
based

>>720520919
>pick the faction that gives you a submarine because that's fucking awesome
>it's actually not awesome
>it's the worst ship in the game pretty much
why? how? it's like they did everything possible to disappoint me.

>>720521874
What did you expect, anon? It was built by the PRC. You can find a boat crewed by literal dead people that works better if you choose the pirates.

Skyrim
Oblivion
Morrowind
Daggerfall
Arena

>>720520395
you stopped playing at the literal end of the game? kind of a weird place to stop, but i know what you mean.

just a general problem with the game, the factions are largely dumb and it's hard to care about much going on with their politics. i still supported VTC in the end, they were better out of the 3 IMO. sucks losing my fucking companion at the end of the fucking game, but is what it is. so much wasted potential to build off of what PoE1 did right & wrong.

>>720520560
>no Siege of Avalon

>>720521965
I thought it would have a torpedo weapon so you could sink ships without having to surface. I tried the ghost ship too in another save but it was also underwhelming. the pirate faction kind of sucked in general even though you would expect them to be the coolest.

>>720516457
Yeah I've tried to get into it multiple times and end up giving in after an hour and a half.

>>720523328
You didn't miss much. I thought the Rydia knockoff was neat, though.

I think I hate videogames

>>720509661 (OP)
Dungeon Siege 2
Neverwinter Nights with addons

>>720522180
i'm still in mid-game when i decided to quit, because i hate that pick your poison part in deadfire, generally i'm pretty much open/welcome to picking your poison part in game but in deadfire i'm kinda overwhelmed factions choices and the dilema presented in game is borderline stupid like the pirates hates slavery but VTC support them

>>720509661 (OP)
Fallout 1
Pathfinder WOTR
Deadfire
BG3
Age of Decadence

>>720509661 (OP)
BG1&2 with SCS installed is the absolute number one and I feel like nothing else can ever top it. Of course normalfags are unaware that SCS is what truly elevates those games to the realms of perfection but oh well.

I genuinely wish anyone who puts BG3 into this Top 5 CRPGs could be banned from ever posting about CRPGs ever again.

>>720523734
You're surprised? VTC is just the EIC but black and Italian. Besides, only half the pirates hate slavery, the other half peddle flesh so they can make money for nation-building.

>>720520560
There's really only a handful of stinkers in this (shit like Mass Effect has no place on a CRPG list), otherwise it's very good.

>>720521757
Nioh isn't an RPG and Disco Elysium does some things pretty well. I agree with BG3 though, total slop for retards that don't like CRPGs to begin with.

>>720509661 (OP)
>normal play
>Good story, lame combat
>speed run
>Not much story, excellent game play
Even the game's existence itself is a puzzle

>Fallout 2
>Arcanum
>Ultima 7
>TES Skyrim (still modding and playing to this day)
>Alpha Protocol

Deus Ex would be in over Alpha Protocol, but it seems more like a stealth action than RPG. Otherwise, HR is near perfection (the bosses were dumb).


>>720520560
Not bad, but JA2? That's more of a strategy game than RPG, even with a levelling system. FOT was regarded as a strategy spinoff by the devs and press and plays similarly.

>>720524178
More of an RPG than fucking Skyrim.

shit genre enjoyed by boomers the fact that the most relevant cRPG - Baldurs Gate 3 was largely fucking dropped by players after first act and relied mostly on bear sex for relevancy says it all

>>720524285
BG3 is closest to an actual table top rpg. Most people in this thread are just looking for super casual story/adventure games or destitution simulators.

>>720524454
That's solasta if you're referring to 5e tabletop, larian create their own rules for push and weight

>>720523734
>pirates hate slavery
uhhh no i think they actually love it
>VTC support them
i'm pretty sure it's just the one dude in charge who does. you can oust him and use this against him, the higher brass are taken aback he went that far Big on innovation and technology, the best path forward.

Huana - tribal faction really only cares about themselves and their way of life

VTC - Euro colonizers, essentially. Willing to work with pirates, but you can wipe them all out so i'd like to headcannon that by the end this changes their approach

RDC - Authoritarians who want all freedom squashed, this faction is so fucking stupid.

Not much really changes in the end desu. VTC were by far and away the best, even if they do have flaws. But the flaws seem so small in comparison to RDC/Pirates (who gives a fuck about Huana)

>>720524454
>BG3 is closest to an actual table top rpg.
Every time I see this claim I just know for a fact that the person typing it only knows about DnD from watching CR or other fagshit.

>>720520560
>Diablo on the list at all
>NEO Scavenger on the list at all
>TOME as the sole representant of roguelikes
shit list

nigger list

>>720524560
No, solasta mirrors the ruleset, not an actual campaign. It's horrible at emulating a campaign. Really it's not even great for emulating encounters, which should be quite lengthy affairs.

>>720524285
I've played through it 3 separate times and am convinced beyond doubt that most CRPG players on this board are secondaries who only play this genre to circlejerk being in a cool kid's club, hence why stuff like this >>720520560 is even a thing. Simply contrarianism for the sake of it, never ever actually judging something on its own merit and forming your own opinion.

>>720524716
5e encounters are only lengthy because they sound like this.
>I cast a spell!
>Alright, which one?
>...
>Which spell do you cast?
>Um...
>Where is that on my sheet?
>The section that says "spells".
>...
>This one here.
>Um...
>...
>...
>...
>I cast Earthbind!
>Okay, on who?
>...
>Um...
>I want to cast Earthbind on this guy.
>He doesn't fly, you know.
>What?
>That guy can't fly.
>...
>You know what Earthbind does, right?
>It traps them and keeps them from moving, right?
>It keeps them from flying.
>...
>They can still move, they can't fly.
>It doesn't stop them from moving?
>No.
>I don't want to do that, then.
>Um...
>...
>...
>...
>I want to cast Hypnotic Pattern.
>Okay, where?
>...
>Um...
>...
>I want to cast it on that guy.
>Centered on him?
>...
>I want to cast it on him.
>It's an AoE spell, you know.
>It is?
>Yes. 30 foot cube.
>Oh.
>In fact, you could probably get some of the other guys if you aim it between them.
>Um...
>...
>...
>...
>Okay, I do that.
>What's your save DC?
>...
>Your save DC?
>...
>Um...
>Should be written near your spells.
>Where are my spells?

>>720524723
Codex is basically a black isle fan club so it's inevitable that they're retarded. You can't be both le ebin hardcore grognard and a fallout fan, it's simply not possible.

>>720521189
Calling EYE a CRPG is a stretch. It's barely an immersive sim as it is.

I want to play Underrail but I have seen comments that the game is impossible to play without looking at a guide all the time and that your build can become completely useless after a little while??

>>720509661 (OP)
Might and Magic 6 and 7
Deus Ex
Baldur's Gate
Morrowind

>>720524796
If this is like a constant thing, you should kick this guy from your group.

>>720509661 (OP)

Planescape: Torment
Betrayal at Krondor
Lands of Lore 1
Deus Ex (yes it's an RPG)
Dark Souls (yes it's an RPG)

>>720526360
I'd say that if System Shock 1 and 2, Deus Ex, and Thief are CRPGs, EYE might as well be too. Regardless, it's kino.

>>720509661 (OP)
>arcanum
loved the reactivity and the sandbox style gameplay.. conspiracy story was also a good surprise
>planescape
great characters, great story
>jagged alliance 2
best gameplay with destructible environments
>fallout 1
pretty much the same reason i liked arcanum
>divinity original sin 1
i really liked being able to manipulate the environment, but disliked some parts of it too

>>720516410
its the most reliant on holding skill points and savescumming to pass skill checks out of any other crpg

>>720528684
>yes it's an RPG
This is a thread on cRPGs you thunder faggot. Don't make me bust out the text adventures.

>>720516410
It's garbage. I made a full-social character, and literally just walked around and selected the skillchecks and murdered my way through the world with speech checks, it was retarded. Well, I dropped the game after my guy killed an entire dungeon in like half a dozen speech checks. Felt like playing a point-and-click without any of the things that make those things at least a little entertaining.

Colony Ship is pretty good, though.

probably the first two fallout games. I just prefer turn based combat in those old games (even though some fights in fallout 2 could drag on forever). I also had a good experience with arcanum but kind of broke the game by the end. still need to play the first two baldur's gate games.

>>720518058
I've been meaning to give fallout 2 conversion mods a try. Is Olympus better than Sonora.

>>720528942

Text adventures aren't RPGs. Every game I listed is a CRPG (computer role-playing game).

>>720516410
AoD is aimed at a niche within a niche. It will not appeal to most CRPG fans, let alone everyone else.

>>720529054
>game lets you actually play the character to the strengths he has
>this makes it bad somehow
if you wanted to murderhobo you can do that with a fighter

>>720529310
I didn't put a lot of time into Sonora (or Nevada) because they didn't really pull me in, but Olympus was great from start to finish. It felt to me like a completion of a perfect trifecta between Fallout 1 and Arcanum where Fallout 2 should have been.

>>720529446
if the game plays itself for you, it isn't a game

>>720524027
be nice, its their first exposure to the genre

>>720524027
>I genuinely wish anyone who puts BG3 into this Top 5 CRPGs could be banned from ever posting about CRPGs ever again.
most people who played bg3 and raved about it probably never even bothered checking out any other crpgs

>>720528385
you're a faggot zoomer. Try something on rails instead, like subway surfers

>>720529889
Judging by this thread, and the post you are replying to, this seems to be enormous projection

>>720528798
whats your favorite attribute and class in Thief?

>>720528684
kek this illiterate retard thought he was cooking (yes it's a boomer reference)

>>720516318
I liked the bald uncle companion.

>>720510625
Mindbroken

Arcanum
Fallout 1
Planetescape Tournament
KOTOR 2
Bloodlines if that counts. Otherwise Disco Elysium

>>720509661 (OP)
Remake when?

>>720509910
>>atom rpg
>>underrail
Wtf, I thought they are the same. Which one is the reload fest?

>>720532714
that's underrail
atom rpg is a fallout 2 clone with russian memes instead of american ones

>>720532714
i think underail, atom is much forgiving with skills since you can farm xp from encounter while underail iirc is make or break

>>720533107
>>720533135
I see. Fo2 clone doesn't sound too appealing either. Might wait for swordhaven iron clone of bg1.

>>720533135
you can farm xp in classic mode. less unique than oddity but I think it's better designed
>>720533179
funny enough that game is also from atom rpg devs
check out serpent in the staglands btw

>>720509661 (OP)
Planescape Torment
King's Bounty Legend
Space Rangers 2
The Witcher 1
Disco Elysium

>>720533467
I know that the dev is the same. Hence me mentioning it. Serpent in the staglands looks decent enough. Never to find while searching online for crpg.

BG3
Archaelund
Fallout Tactics
Escape the Mad Empire
Adventurer's Guild

>>720533179
I also waited for swordhaven but it's still 3 months away from full release, EA so far is enjoyable but they need to fix some weapon accuracy

>>720534090
It's better to wait a year for bug fixes. Buying first day doesn't work well imho.

>>720534489
i already bought it for EA though

>>720509661 (OP)
Fallout
Fallout 2
Fallout Nevada
Fallout Sonora
Underrail
ATOM RPG

>>720533107
It had american ones too, at least before the big rewrite, I haven't played it after that so I don't know what they added/removed

Also if you like ATOM RPG you should play Planet Alcatraz, it's great

>>720534904
some of the worst rtwp i've experienced
setting is cool and english voice acting is so bad it's good though

>>720533107
>>720534852
>russian meme
it have Drake's face?

Wizardry 8

>>720512934
How do you manage early game sections in PoE on the hardest difficulty? Do you need to hire party members? I find it too difficult, but later on it gets easier as you find more of the named party members.

>>720509661 (OP)
Baldur's Gate 2
VTMB
Gothic 2
Might and Magic 7
Wizardry 8

>>720509661 (OP)
PST
Fallout 1
BG 1
KOTOR
I guess Disco but it felt more like an isometric adventure game with dice rolls so I dunno, otherwise, Fallout 2

>>720536059
I like VTMB as well, but is it really considered a CRPG?

>>720515708
It is pretty much the very definition of steampunk meets fantasy (steampunk doesn't need fantasy elements like the classical fantasy races, or magic). On the box it says
>Imagine a place of wonder, where magick and technology co-exist in an uneasy balance. A place where great industrial cities, factories, castles and keeps are home to Dwarves, Humans, Orcs and Elves, alike. A place of ancient runes and steamworks, of magic and machines, of sorcery and science. Welcome to the land of Arcanum.

So it's steampunk inspired. I have the box here if you want more info.

>>720536284
Arguably not, but I don't know. Deviates from tradition but doesn't really fit another genre that well. If it has to have party management then perhaps Arcanum replaces VTMB, and Underrail would replace Gothic 2 but that has no party either.
I just like RPGs, really.

>>720536384
>I have the box here if you want more info.
Played the game, do like the fact that you have the box.

>>720536284
well if BG is considered CRPG then VTMB is CRPG too since it's stand for computer, while the system is different it's still based on rulebook like DnD. Also i think i fucked up with crossroad keep minigame in NWN2

>>720536596
>I just like RPGs, really.
Same boat really, never cared that much about the CRPG or RPG distinction but I know they have their differences and all that

>>720536642
i suppose cyberpunk 2077 is also a crpg by your logic

>>720509661 (OP)
The ones I've made in my imagination.

Wizardry 6, 7, and 8 (yes, I lump them all together)
Might and Magic 6
Icewind Dale 2
Dood sex
Morrowind

>>720537146
Why do you prefer Icewind Dale 2 over the original?

>>720509661 (OP)
fallout
fallout 2
mask of the betrayer
kotor
BG3
I only actually beat the fallout games, CRPGs never hold my interest all the way through

>>720537318
>fake scenario
Hunter's Edge, retard.

>>720533635
>King's Bounty Legend
bruh

>Party-based, turn-based with real-time pause game
I fucking despise this shit like nothing else.

>>720537592
yes?

>>720509661 (OP)
BG2
FO2
PoE1
PoE2
Tyranny

>>720537062
Which llm can do this? Why can't grok make vids?

>>720509661 (OP)
BG2
Arcanum
NWN2+MotB
Wrath of the Righteous
Rogue Trader