Thread 720578163

>MiSTer is too expensi -ACK!
You have no excuse now

>>720578163 (OP)
nah

>>720578163 (OP)
Free is cheaper

posting in an ad

>>720578163 (OP)
>You have no excuse now
my excuse is that I don't want it

OP I hope you're at least being paid to spam these advertisements.

>>720578163 (OP)
>$5 discount
OH BOY, what a steal! I'll have 12 scamboxes, thank you!

What is the point of these things vs just a normal emulator?

>>720578163 (OP)
Never buying one because homosexuals like yourself shilled it too obnoxiously.

>>720578867
You can put it in a sweet custom blue-and-pink console case to pretend like you're gaming on real hardware, all while supporting diverse, sexually liberated indie developers and funding their political causes.

>>720578867
it's high-accuracy, multi-system hardware
it's for anybody who wants an all-in-one retro box that could feasibly accept original controllers, or people that want high-accuracy emulation outside of their computer

>>720578797
yeah very organic

>>720578867
It makes the transsexual's girldick rock hard

OP I was considering buying one of these but you know what, with your constant spam I think I'll just settle with normal emulation and save some bucks. Thanks!

>>720578867
They CAN be more accurate than the software emulators you have on your PC, since you can mess with things on a hardware level, but it depends on the software ("core") programmed for it, and at this moment, most cores are the same if not worse than the best software emulators.
MAYBE the cores will get mature enough to unlock the true potential of FPGA and MAYBE these earlier models will be compatible with this new software. But right now? They're a total scam and OP is a paid shill.

>>720578163 (OP)
seriously how much do they pay you to keep making these shit threads

>>720579659
Yes

>>720579828
>>720495915

Why is high accuracy emulation more desirable than save states and high quality upscaling

>>720578163 (OP)
It's 20 dollars cheaper if you step down and just assemble it yourself. These communities need to gatekeep harder, otherwhise you get loads of tech illiterates shitting up the forums and discord with basic questions because they're allergic to doing research.

So I guess this company paid hiromoot to advertise 24/7 on /v/ now just like the Microsoft AI threads.

>>720578163 (OP)
>$185
I would have to open one up and examine it, but I bet I could build one myself for less than $50

>>720578797
Why does OP never acknowledge this? He'll samefag and desperately try to sell this garbage to other people, but clams up when the archives are posted

>>720580240
Because he knows he jig is up and would rather shill in another thread where there could be anons who might fall for it.

>>720578163 (OP)
isn't that just an fpga with plastic around it? I could probably build that in 10 minutes

>>720580775
Don't bother engaging. OP is a known spammer.

>>720578867
Less than $200 for the absolute most accurate, lowest input lag, lowest audio latency, plug-and-play device with easy, native, lagless support for CRTs and original controllers (as well as 4kTVs and USB controllers too obviously) for everything all the way up to and including PSX/Saturn/N64 is a fucking insane deal and if you can't understand that you're a retard who should kys

>>720578867
It's an inexpensive alternative to converting retro consoles to output HDMI/RGB, or buying flashcarts, ODEs, Brooks converters, bluetooth adapters, and switchboxes to fit all those retro consoles onto a single display at the same time. My buddy sunk thousands modding his retro consoles and building up his collection over the years, and he bought a Mister board for a custom arcade cabinet, because arcade boards and their maintenance is a much more expensive hobby to get into. He was so impressed that he bought a second prebuilt one that looks like a console to serve as the main way he plays Retro games on his 37 inch CRT, and he just has all his consoles hanging on his wall like a shrine.

>>720580127
>save states
You didn't beat the game.

>>720580175
More like 100 if you buy the QMTech clone board of the DE-10 nano with soddered on ram. 185 is not a bad deal considering prebuilt used to go for half a grand.

>>720581439
But can it run Fortniyte and genshin? My phone can.

>buy mini pc for 500 goats
>can use any emulator known to man
>can tweak settings however you want it
>can even do other things if you really want to
why not make the smart choice?

>>720578163 (OP)
My excuse is I still can't afford that. Don't bully me for being poor :(

>>720582674
Less accurate, worse performance, worse latency, pain in the ass to use with CRT or OG controllers, have to deal with OS/driver/hardware config issues.

If you're buying a PC for gaming you shouldn't skimp on a cheap piece of shit

>>720581997
QMTech board alone is like $200+ right now actually

>>720582848
>Less accurate, worse performance, worse latency
how much? if it's 0.3% worse that's negligible
>pain in the ass to use with OG controllers
I can see that, maybe some autist made a fix for it
>have to deal with OS/driver/hardware config issues.
you're just shitting out your ass, fuck off

and it would be a pc for emulation specifically, which (in theory) shouldn't be as demanding as normal pc games

>>720583278
It would especially be bad on Saturn/PSX/N64 cores, where even high-end PCs running the most intensive most accurate cores are nowhere near the accuracy of MiSTer. Then you are also dealing with input/audio latency inherent to software emulation.

>you're just shitting out your ass, fuck off
If you can't understand the advantage of hardware emulation designed for one specific spec, you are retarded

>>720582674
>500 goats
Damn dude, you got ripped off.

>>720578163 (OP)
I literally have no idea what this is even after reading the description. Just use an emulator nigs

>>720582674
>spend 2.5x as much
>the games are less accurate, run worse, with more latency, and no native support for CRT or original controllers

>>720578163 (OP)
>loads up emulator
>downloads games
>all of this for low price of FREE
nothing personell

>>720578163 (OP)
Why not just emulate and play at 4k120?

>>720580853
schizo

>>720583847
>all this for FREE
>just pay $2000 for the PC
>then pay 20x as much as the MiSTer in electricity costs
Retard moment

>>720583874
Probably too retarded or he is a failed salary man advertising shitty products

>>720584096
>caring about electricity costs
non-American moment

What the fuck are you even trying to shill?

>>720584327
Shitty emulator box for poors who play on ancient TVs.

>>720578163 (OP)
no thanks, i'm tech illiterate tax exempt.
>BUT BUT
nah, save it for a hapless zoomer. later.

If you are looking for an accurate and near-authentic emulation experience, this is worth buying.

>$5 discount mattering
lol
lmao.

>>720584096
>>just pay $2000 for the PC
2k PC to emulate SNES games

>have n64 in a box
>have ps2 in a box
>have psx in a box
>have 360 in a box
>have xbox in a box
>have jaguar in a box
>emulate on PC

>>720584537
>>720578784
Retards. People still claim MiSTer is $500+ when prebuilt plug and play MiSTer setups are <$200

Hardware emulation is in a sense, the worst of both worlds. Actual collecting is expensive but offers an unparalleled experience. Software emulation is cheaper and everyone has a fucking PC. The market for hardware emulation is for people who can't afford physical and don't have a PC for some reason, i.e., phoneposters.

>>720584096
I got my gaming PC for free from work.

>>720584669
Midwit poorfag post

>>720584327
MiSTer is an open-source project built around the Terasic DE10-Nano development board, which contains an Intel (Altera) Cyclone V FPGA.
nstead of running software emulation (like RetroArch or MAME), the FPGA is programmed to behave like the original hardware itself. This means the circuits, timing, and logic of a Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Amiga, or arcade PCB are “rebuilt” inside the FPGA.

>>720584654
This shit could be 50 bucks and it would still be a scam.

>>720584669
>got my gaming PC for free from work.

An e-waste Dell Optiplex with a 1050ti in it is hardly a gaming PC

>>720584772
In short. MiSTer FPGA is like owning dozens of old consoles and computers in one device, but instead of simulating them in software, it re-creates them in hardware.

I have a feeling OP, besides being an obvious advertiser, has a deeply-rooted humiliation kink. I can't think of any other type of person who continues engaging with people who clearly have no interest in him or what he's saying. I wonder if he was shoved in lockers as a teen and developed a fetish from it.

>>720578163 (OP)
It's just useless for the kind of stuff i like to do with emulators.
There's no memory watch, no program listing, no breakpoints, no tile decoding..
It is not a replacement for real hardware either because its not THAT precise even if in some cases (saturn and up) more precise than software emulators.
For game runners specifically it is slightly better (-16ms of lag for tile based consoles), but for me, it's useless.

>>720584772
Thank you, hopefully Grok. You got some banging twintails, hopefully Grok.

>>720584801
>1050ti
That shit has enough power to emulate PS3 games

>>720584859
It's more akin to having dozens of chinese copies of these consoles, on the same spirit of the NES on a chip or genesis on a chip, because they're still products of reverse engineering and incomplete documentation as are the software emulators.

>>720584669
>Hardware emulation is in a sense, the worst of both worlds
But that's wrong

I get all the accuracy with more options than original hardware and don't have to juggle multiple consoles for it

>>720584801
I have an ancient macbook air that can do gamecube and PS2

>>720579362
Trannies prefer gaming on PCs, though.

>>720585272
Trannies are just nerds that got successfully destroyed by the tranny propaganda.
It's a zombie like infection made to end any threat for the megacorporations.

>>720584654
Sounds like the price is dropping fast, I'll come back when it's $100.

>>720584669
>completely identical 1:1 experience as dozens of original consoles all with everdrives and all with RGB mods as well as extra features and enhancements, all in one small, portable form factor
>I can't possibly see the appeal!!
Your brain is as smooth as a marble

>>720578163 (OP)
I already have a computer. Emulators are free. Why should I care? So it's SLIGHTLY more accurate emulation?
>Y-you're poor
Don't care. I don't spend money on shit I'm not going to use.

Hardware emulation is like buying a treadmill. Useful for some people, but I can go run outside for free. Why bother?

>>720584259
>installs 5 power company subsidized slop generation datacenters in your county
nothing personnel

>>720578163 (OP)
Again, we'll keep tearing you a new one.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/720304143/#720313823
And one were you claim it's 100% identical to original hardware https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/717206487/#717213498
We'll just continue to download better emulators for free.

>>720578163 (OP)
>no more accurate than software emulators that are free
>does not have less input lag, in fact retroarch has less than mister
>can only emulate 3rd and 4th gen consoles
lol

>>720578867
>>720586151
Holy shit! All that samefagging.

I can buy a Retroid much better for the same price that emulates Switch even.

If you think about it, FPGA emulation is the final PCegan form.
>Why would you play for free on software emulators?! Poorfag!!! You forgot to calculate food and rent!
>Why would you play on original hardware!?! It takes up so much space and costs a lot of money!! FPGAs offer BETTER than original hardware options for negligible edge cases developers never even considered!

>>720586258
It does have less input and audio lag than retroarch not using runahead, and runahead is a bit buggy when you use too much frames.

However, with run ahead with 1(one) frame you match the input lag of the mister.
The exact timing of when the input capture gets a bit messy, but you're not a speedrunner.

>>720586151
They literally already updated NES MiSTer core and it's back to the most accurate NES emulator in existence again.

Most cores like MD, NeoGeo, Saturn, N64, PSX, SNES, etc. run laps around the most accurate software emulators

>>720585272
>speedrunning is infested by trannies
>only speedrunners care about accuracy
Think, Rajesh.

i'd rather get this. it at least kinda looks like a console.

>>720578163 (OP)
Why should I care about the trivial differences compared to an emulator I can just run right now, on my pc, phone, handheld, or vr headset?

>>720587891
BECAUSE IT'S MORE ACCURATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>720587891
Input lag, audio latency, accuracy, original controllers, CRT hookup, portable form factor, etc

>>720588320
>input lag
BLAH BLAH BLAH
>audio latency
BLAH BLAH BLAH
>accuracy
Okay, Narcissa.
>original controllers
You can do that on PC.
>CRT hookup
Can that CRT display 4k120?
>portable form factor
While lugging the CRT around.
>etc
FUCK YO PRODUCT, NIGGA!

>>720578163 (OP)
>accuracy
Just use original hardware
>convenience
Then use software emulation
Also, buy an ad next time, shill

>>720588541
>BLAH BLAH BLAH
It's important but you can fix it on PC
>BLAH BLAH BLAH
This one you can't get rid of, but with a good PC you can lower the audio latency quite a lot
>Okay, Narcissa.
You could also post pic related and have someone say to you "but the real hardware don't pass 100% of the test just <different number from the picture
>You can do that on PC.
Yep, and can do even better too
>Can that CRT display 4k120?
Retro games can't either, but you can hook up a CRT to a PC
>While lugging the CRT around.
The mister can also be connected on LCD screens, but if you ever get one doing it, you should laugh at the user's face forever
>FUCK YO PRODUCT, NIGGA!
It's not a PC where you can create a custom board to drive a vibrator according to a video

>>720584096
you can do more things than gaming with a gaming rig, you know.

>>720588954
Seething

I remember when this piece of shit was revealed.
500 euros in 2015. It was the best hand gaming device at the time, but years later it got BTFO by cheap chinese handhelds. It was only shipped to developers as late as 2020.

I just don't feel confident in these western made devices anymore.

>>720589148
>posted by a literal troon
KEK
KEK
KEK, SEÑORA
KEK YOUR BODY LINE

>>720578867
Scam for older millennials similar to boomer audiophile hardware
"Fixes" something that was already perfectly fine

>>720589456
no matter what device you make it's still either going to be
>ARM phone CPU shit
>x86 powerhog APU
>esoteric FPGA chip

The western vs. eastern design means literally nothing because all that matters for the shell is what kind of ergonomics, build quality, and screen it has. Otherwise you're beholden to the software. Yes, even on an FPGA device.

N64 emulation is still complete and utter dogshit compared to even PS3 emulation. It's literally just down to developer skill and how much time they can invest. There is no magic bullet

>>720585272
>tendie feeling called out
No, they absolutely love these autistic emulation meme projects too.

>>720589670
>N64 emulation is still complete and utter dogshit compared to even PS3 emulation
Not on MiSTer it sure as fuck isn't. It's like 99.999% perfect

>>720590296
Not as much as they love gaming PCs, though. Example, this troon: >>720587651

>>720590354
Don't bother arguing with these retards. To them, if it's 0.001% dog shit, then it's still dog shit.

>>720578163 (OP)
$185 to play a NES game for an hour and then let the console collect dust for eternity

>>720590943
Plays up to and including PSX/N64/Saturn with 100% compatibility, retard

up to what system can fpgas emulate?

>>720591084
so does my computer lol

>>720591207
It can play all three gen 5 consoles more accurately than the best and most accurate software emulators

>>720591207
PS6. It can display at 64K Infinity FPS (slightly worse than native PS4 performance).

>>720591084
Duckstation just works. N64/Saturn have no good games.

>>720578867
The unwarranted belief you got something better because you paid money for it.

>>720591365
>more accurately than the best and most accurate software emulators
Day 672 of asking mistersisters to show ONE SINGLE video demonstrating better accuracy to hardware vs a software emulator.

>>720591983
Check compatibility lists retard. Check the input latency and audio latency comparison

>>720592135
>Still can't post video evidence
Like clockwork. Stay tuned for day 673 where nothing changes!

>>720591983
The most intensive MD test rom. Mist has a single fail while the most accurate software emus, BlastEm and Nuked, have 3-5 fails depending on version

Imagine wanting accuracy on consoles screaming for upgrades.
https://files.catbox.moe/o5p6vf.png
https://files.catbox.moe/h5mkwr.png
https://files.catbox.moe/puc6jc.png

>>720592291
Feel to free to show the accuracy in actual gameplay footage compared to software emulator at any time!

>>720592291
I seriously question how necessary some of those tests are. Is there a single instance where it comes up and actually impacts gameplay in some way?

>>720578163 (OP)
I just don't see the point when emulation works fine already

>>720592451
You're wrong, trans, and gay. Also fuck you and shut up.

>>720592291
Software emusissies... this can't be happening...

>>720592421
Most emulators are made on the basis of "we make all commercial games run".
If all you want to do is play commercial games, even snes9x can do it.

>>720592749
>literally posted a tweet by a tranny
>calls others trannies (but "trans," which means he's a sympathizer)

Satisfied with my real consoles.

Can't get more accurate than that.

>>720592810
God, to think of all the money I lost on software emulation... it makes me sick!

>>720593016
Well, we did buy expensive GPUs just to play SNES games less accurately. :(
That's all we bought them for. Nothing else.

>>720592385
>>720592421
>MiSTer is not more heckin' accurate!!!!
>get utterly btfo
>ummmmm well ackchyually accuracy doesn't matter chud

>>720593206
I never said that. I just questioned if there was an instance where the inaccuracy would actually make a difference. Any situation it might come up in.

what does accuracy even mean, specifically? what kind of artifacts do modern emulators produce that mr does not?

>>720593206
Misterfag please ... I'm begging you, just ONE video of actual gameplay... You do use this thing to play games right? Please .. I'll settle for a screenshot. ANYTHING. Just ONE example of actual gameplay! I don't want to keep this day count going on but I'll do another 600 if I have too...

>>720593392
various timing issues, rendering issues, sound issues, audio latency, input lag. People assume emulators like Duckstation are perfect when they have a long list of compatibility issues, some which have patchwork fixes and more that don't

>>720593509
>assume emulator is perfect
>someone tells me there's invisible ninjas stealing my performance
>emulator is therefore perfect

When did 4chan start hating transfolk? Is this a /pol/ psyop?

>>720593601
Here's a list of known major compatibility issues for ares, the most accurate N64 software emulator, and this is not even including any games with framerate/timing issues (of which there are literally hundreds)

>>720578163 (OP)
I'm not paying 200 dollars for that. Sorry anon, buy an ad

>>720593873
Gauntlet legends is a weird one I didn't expect so many emulators to have issues with honestly.

>>720578163 (OP)
for that price i can just buy a phone controller and a power bank and use that instead

What if I kept all my childhood consoles and a CRT TV? Why would I pay for an emulator box that has worse performance than my gaming PC that I built almost a decade ago?

>>720579307
>high-accuracy
So this is 100% a grift for retards....

>>720594498
MiSTer is a completely identical 1:1 experience as dozens of original consoles all with everdrives and all with RGB mods as well as extra features and enhancements, all in one small, portable form factor. So you could just sell those consoles and buy a MiSTer.

>>720578163 (OP)
Don't care. Still a scam.
>B-but... le accuracy
A lie. Plain and simple. You are no better than a boomer audiophile buying useless garbage in the hopes of getting better sound quality.

This is a really good deal.

I love checking in on these threads because they always make a certain group of retards extremely mad.

>>720578163 (OP)
you are a retarded subhuman shill

>>720595073
No one is forcing you to make a good deal :)

>>720594638
Yeah that's nice and all but I already have flashcarts and HDDs for every retro console that really didn't cost too much in the long run (AliExpress clones work fine) and I have every console daisy chained together with an RF connection. This emulator box seems barely more useful than a Wii.

>>720595305
>I spent exorbitant amounts of money and waste a ton of space to get an inferior experience to MiSTer and only play a few consoles instead of the dozens that MiSTer supports
retard alert

retroarch on a phone mogs

>>720595396
If anon already has the hardware why should he spend more?

Obnoxious Misterfags and obnoxious Pispergs linked up, need it or keep it?

>

So why did the MiSTer shit and flop again?

>>720593873
JFG still doesn't work in Ares? The solution for MiSTer was just to autopatch the game to remove the check that causes the crash.

>>720595305
>AliExpress
>Wii in 2025
Poor alert.

>>720596871
It flopped so badly that it's always going out of stock.

>>720596402
He doesn't have the hardware, he probably has like 2-3 consoles, MiSTer has like 100+ cores

>>720578163 (OP)
preorder?
I bought it a couple weeks ago and it didn't say that, it was just simply in stock
did I get scammed?

>>720597112
You might need to make another thread, this one is floppin'.

>>720578163 (OP)
this would actually be cheap as an arcade board if mister could emulate one single MAME game that came after 1999

>>720578867
If you pay $200-$500, you can get a box that passes fringe accuracy tests that are often too stringent for even real hardware, without having access to many enhancements and features a full emulator provides

>>720578163 (OP)
Do not buy this. Not only is it a scam, you are financially supporting mentally ill people that hate you.

>>720578163 (OP)
or just pick up a 27" crt for free

>>720597950
If you buy a prebuilt MiSTer your money is exclusively going to the reseller. The software itself is free. Core developers don't get money unless it's from Patreon or other donations.

>>720584669
>Actual collecting is expensive but offers an unparalleled experience
what is this experience exactly

I didn't make this thread, but sometimes I make MiSTer threads. Anyway, we need more people to own them that way the development environment will progress further and faster. Theoretically, FPGA emulation can be perfect, and we need to reach that.

>>720581741
I don't care. Theres thousands of games I want to play. I don't have time to "beat" them all. I just want to get to the end while enjoying the game. Save states help with that.

>>720597950
>cunnysseur who hates "people"
if he wasn't a tranny he'd be based

>>720598845
>>720598226
MiSTer is for trannies who think they are SiSTers.

>>720598468
I want you to imagine any purely data-consumption hobby (books, music, artwork, video games, films, etc.) and tell me if you can see the difference between a wall/cabinet/room full of physical releases or an external drive containing them all.

Yeah but does it let me play zombies ate my neighbors will feeling up my 13 year old cousin god I want to go back

>>720599478
wake up tomorrow and you'll be back bro :) I needed to fuck my cousin back in those days

>>720578867
Easy to hook up to a CRT and it runs as closely to real hardware as possible

>>720602064
So worthless. Gotcha.

>>720602064
PCs are pretty easy to hook up too, plus they can run more emulators and I seriously doubt you can tell the difference in how close it is or isn't to real hardware.

>>720578163 (OP)
>>720584654
how much are you paying the single 4chan admin to look the other way on this blatant begging advertising spam?
>>720578867
to be a big gay faggot all day while you brag about how much you love sucking dick to fellow 35yo+ losers on the internet who are paradoxically too poor to buy old consoles and yet have too much money burning a hole in their pocket to just emulate on PC

>>720604125
>PCs are pretty easy to hook up too
They are not
>and I seriously doubt you can tell the difference in how close it is or isn't to real hardware
That's fine, doesn't change that it still is, it's more to do with the fact it has the ability to work with real peripherals and hardware/software

>>720578163 (OP)
Do you even play on your MiSTer OP?

>>720584876
Astute analysis, Kowalski.

>>720604453
He doesn't have one. He's a jeet in a call center working 7 days a week.

>>720604442
>They are not
They are though, VGA is basically SCART RGB with different sync, all you need is a cheap sync combiner (sometimes this is just integrated into a VGA to SCART cable already) and boom, you've got RGB signal which can go into a TV.

>>720605314
>They are though, VGA is basically SCART RGB with different sync
VGA is not 240p and no, it is not easy to set up pls stop with bs

>>720595067
Did CRTs always have that blatant laser beam flowing from top to bottom of the screen, but we were all used to it so we didn't notice? Like how we could actually make out the details in 480p 360p videos back in 2007 but now it's impossible?

>>720605461
I'm talking about the VGA connector, not the literal VGA 31kHz spec.

>>720599314
Consider a room top-to-bottom filled with drives, each drive containing the equivalent of room upon rooms of paper

>>720605504
Anon, do you notice you lights flickering when they're on?

>>720604453
Yeah just about every day. Beat about 80 games so far this year

yeap

>>720580127
Any non-autistic answers to this?

For that price you might as well just buy a PlayStation Classic or a Super Nintendo Classic and just mod those to play whatever.

My my modded PlayStation Classic I got for $20 is modded and I have zero issues running PSX/SNES/Saturn. I've even gone further with it and have successfully been playing some PSP titles and virtually every DS game as well - aside from the ones where the stylus is necessary.

Why would I get this when 99% of games from Gen 5 and prior suck?

>>720578372
/thread

>>720610459
Accuracy

>>720590751
>>720590354
I'm not familiar with N64 emulation on MiSTers. If you're not bullshitting me I might look into one

>>720595067
>using the dogshit Switch emulator as the representation of software emulation
I know your product is worthless but do you have to lie so blatantly? Jesus.

>>720587775
>CD drive sold separately
They put a scam on top of the scam. Impressive.

We won

>>720610459
confirmed shitter

>>720578163 (OP)
>200 bucks for 1gb of DDR3
Who is buying this comically overpriced shit?

>>720578867
Conceptually, the appeal is that you can just plug it into a TV and play your vidya in your living room. Problem is that there's no practical benefit to paying $200 for a box that does this. For a similar price point you can just get a shitty laptop from a pawn shop that can do the same thing, and it at the very least has the benefit of being a shitty laptop. Alternatively if you have your own home, you can just plug your normal computer into your TV and also do the same, for "free" (ie, not paying for extra useless bullshit).

>but bro... it's the most accurate emulator in the world!
I don't fucking care.

>>720578163 (OP)
is there a sequel called the missus

>>720620298
This one is already a sequel to the MiST

>>720578163 (OP)
Damn remember when these pi's were like... 25, 30 bucks in the very beginning?
Man those were some times...

>>720578867
a scam for tech illiterate numales

>>720578163 (OP)
I never needed one tranny faggot

>>720580127
With software emulators you don't have to choose between those
FPGA shit is a scam for retarded niggercattle

>>720596950
Ares doesn't rely on per game hacks like Sister

>>720617247
Based.
>ohh no this transparency effect is offset by one pixel of one frame every four hours

>>720617247
>>720621617
Hey, do what you want, just know that you're only screwing yourself over with ZSNES

>>720581439
>absolute most accurate
according to who

>>720622061
It's been tested, he's right
Especially if you don't like run ahead mode on some emulators

>>720579307
What consoles can it highly accurately replicate that usual emulators cannot? Serial question.

overpriced toy for manchildren who want to seem like purists when they could just play on retroarch for free and dont even play their games
ask the mister (for he is definitely a man, and will definitely never be a woman despite claims to the contrary) to showcase his 1ccs and see him recoil in horror: "i've been found out"

funny how shills try to shill but actually do the exact opposite and clarify why ''dedicated emulation'' hardware is bullshit

>>720582674
My $50 HP mini PC with a 2200g emulates pretty much everything up to PS2/Wii/Dreamcast that I would ever want to play. It even emulates a few 360/PS3 games pretty well, and plays most PC games I care about up to about 2012. Also makes a great alternative to a Roku/Firestick/AppleTV if you dualboot Android. Only downside is no Dolby Vision in 4k.

>>720578867
If you have to ask this question, you do not need one of these things. They're only for the most autistic of use cases; I have one but I barely use it. The few cases I do use it are for 486 emulation and amiga emulation, since my actual 486 is a power guzzling monster and my Amiga is dead.
Anyways, when will these fucks make a m68k macintosh core?

>>720580127
MiSTer does have save states in most cores and does do high quality lagless upscaling up to 1440p, even better with Retrotink 4k.

I'm assuming what you're talking about is increasing render resolution, which MiSTer does not do because it focuses on recreating as close to the original hardware as possible, and everything runs in parallel; it's not brute forcing with a powerful CPU and GPU like with software emulation.

The real answer though is probably that fifth gen was pretty much all miracle cores that people didn't think were possible, and then somehow ended up not only working but being extremely accurate to the point that they surpass the best software emulators. These cores push MiSTer to near its absolute limit, especially N64 where a few of the games have (patched) issues that are just an unavoidable result of limitations with the hardware, so there isn't really much overhead for upres.

>>720598845
Development is not going to proceed any faster by bringing in more people, because your average code monkey can't write VHDL or Verilog, never mind wrap their head around it.

>>720622910
>overpriced
Less than $200 for the absolute most accurate, lowest input lag, lowest audio latency, plug-and-play device with easy, native, lagless support for CRTs and original controllers (as well as 4kTVs and USB controllers too obviously) for everything all the way up to and including PSX/Saturn/N64 is a fucking insane deal and if you can't understand that you're a retard who should kys

>>720578867
You know how audiophiles by cable stands and huge ass adamantium plated super cables because they've been told a """TRUE""" audio-"""enthusiast""" can tell the difference?

>>720625934
Not him but what's the point if I already have all the original hardware I care about and everdrives and ODEs? I guess my hardware breaking down but unless a CPU/PPU dies pretty much everything /vr/ related is pretty easy to service. Really the only two systems I've ever had to fuck with was the controller board on my Dreamcast and replacing a couple caps on my Xbox.

>>720620637
This isn't actually like a Pi. It's not just a shitty ARM processor, it's an FPGA clone board that functions identical to the DE10 Nano. It's the same thing as the MiSTerAddons prebuilt just with a different/familiar name

>>720620693
Yeah it's a total scam... A completely identical 1:1 experience of having dozens of original consoles all with everdrives and all RGB modded in addition to extra features and enhancements, all in one small, portable plug-and-play form factor.

I can't possibly see the appeal!

Why is this company shilling it's products every day on /v/?
Are sales really that low?

>>720626113
I mean, to be fair, you will get better audio quality by switching from software to hardware mixing since you're working with analog signals, and it does help to have non-shit gold-plated cables. But those super thick ones are pointless if you're isolating things properly, and most of these "enthusiasts" ironically don't care about accurate reproduction and would rather have bass so heavy you'd think they're in the middle of the gaza strip being bombed.

>>720626205
Because you almost certainly don't have every console up to and including fifth gen all with everdrives, all RGB modded, and a RetroTink 4k (since MiSTer could hook up flawlessly to both CRT and 4k TVs).

MiSTer supports all of these at identical accuracy, latency, performance, and compatibility, so it's completely identical to having the original hardware except you even get extra features and enhancements, with literally the only difference being no fiddling with (everdrive) cartridges and the box cosmetically looks different.

Even if you DID have all that, that's like 20x the price of the MiSTer bare minimum and takes up a TON more room with absolutely nightmare cable management.

For original hardware, it's basically a no-brainer. For emulation, you actually have to have some level of standard where you care about either input lag, audio latency, accuracy, CRT use, OG controller, or portability. If you genuinely care about none of those, then sure, emulate on your phone or chinkshit handheld or whatever.

>>720578163 (OP)
Just play on real hardware

>>720626283
>and most of these "enthusiasts" ironically don't care about accurate reproduction and would rather have bass so heavy you'd think they're in the middle of the gaza strip being bombed.
That's where I was going with this. The faggot who shills this product doesn't care about accuracy, he cares about the clout of having the supposed accuracy. Set him up in a blind test with a software emulator and a hardware one and he'd probably not be able to notice the difference.

Will we ever be able to have a civil discussion about technology without the shit flinging and name calling?

>>720578163 (OP)
Make a Mister that outputs 4K, has a proper power switch and has its inputs in sensible locations. None of this fucking
>ethernet at the front
>power/video on the back
>SD slot on the left
>SNAC port on the right
>turns on when it directly receives power, not off state like every other electronic I own
The fucking thing looks like it's on life support if you're using everything.

Yeah who cares. I'm gonna play PS1 games on duckstation, upscaled with the polygon wobble removed.

>>720626896
Not when these threads are blatant shill threads.

>>720578163 (OP)
>You have no excus-AAACK!

>>720627038
>needing a virtual pat on the back to tell you that you beat level 2 of mario

>>720626614
I mean, really all I care about is OG Nintendo through PS3, all of which I have. I have a GBS-C (and the only reason I even got that is because most TVs don't have a YPbPr input anymore) and S-video/component cables for all my systems and a couple CRTs. I have a PC already set up for streaming and playing arcade games in my living room. Anyway I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying I don't really need one. What I'd really like is for someone to develop FPGA powered motherboards that would fit into original system shells, so you could get an aftermarket shell and build essentially a brand new system, like the modkit for Gameboy Color. Or if someone made a MiSTer all-in-one style system like the Retron 5.

>>720627118
>needing a virtual pat on the back your mario moves on hardware emulation instead of software emulation

>>720627118
>not wanting a pat on the back for doing a level 1 critical mode run beating all superbosses

>>720627261
They have the Superstation One that is the same MiSTer FPGA internals.

It's mostly cosmetic though, I don't see why it really matters

>>720578163 (OP)
Does this actually do anything better than just running an emulator on PC or Android? Seems like a retard tax or those 'audiophile network switches '

>>720579307
>anybody who wants an all-in-one retro box
just get a steam deck

>>720627864
>be retarded subhuman
>call things you don't understand in the slightest 'retard tax'
lmao

>>720578163 (OP)
The PC I already have can emulate everything the Mister can, so why waste the money?

>>720628407
So you fell for it and it's just a grift after all, thanks for clarifying

>>720628803
>The PC I already have can emulate everything the Mister can
Actually your PC can do more than a Mister in terms of emulating systems.
Right now, Mister is too weak to emulate most late 90s arcade PCBs, so you are basically missing out on hundreds of good games.
Reminder that people had to paypig for 7 years to get CPS3 board even running on this thing.
There is of course tons more, like not having finished cores for PC-98, X68k or other "niche" home computers.
The whole box is "the potential". It has "the potential" to do everything, you just have to be a patreon paypiggy and maybe in 10 years it will do the same thing your PC could do in 2010.

>>720629358
Less than $200 for the absolute most accurate, lowest input lag, lowest audio latency, plug-and-play device with easy, native, lagless support for CRTs and original controllers (as well as 4kTVs and USB controllers too obviously) for everything all the way up to and including PSX/Saturn/N64 is a fucking insane deal and if you can't understand that you're a retard who should kys.

It's literally the equivalent to having the complete 1:1 original hardware experience of dozens of original hardware consoles, all with everdrives, all RGB modded, plus a RetroTink 4k, for a tiny fraction of the cost and a tiny fraction of the space and cable management.

Fucking brown subhuman retard.

>>720629587
>do the same thing your PC could do in 2010.
Lmao the fucking cope. It has the low latency, accuracy, support for OG controllers/peripherals, and native CRT support that even software emulators now can't do.

Most poorfags can't even run ares or Mednafen full speed on their shit rigs and this is more accurate than that with lower latency and flawless performance.

Fucking retarded sour grapes poorfag

>ctrl-f: accura
>51 results
so did we ever find out what the shill means by ''accuracy/ it's the most accurate''?

>>720627924
>worst UI known to man

no thanks. I stick to my stand alone emulators

>>720630445
It's not a cope, it's the reality. I have a 2009-tier high end PC that I salvaged specifically so I could hook it up to a CRT. You could of course use a newer one (and it's needed for Saturn emu anyway) but otherwise you can run everything up to PS2/GC.
>support for OG controllers/peripherals, and native CRT support that even software emulators now can't do.
That has nothing to do with software emulation. And you use it in the same way as Mister boxes does.
For example I'm using my og SNES and MD controllers through deamon bite, which you can also you use on Mister, as well as other options like Snac or Reflex Adapt (the latter also supports PC).

>>720630295
kek you actually believe all this marketing crap? It's a good emulation box but the whole 1:1 with original hardware is total bullshit. It's not even as close in accuracy as emulating on your PC. Mister is a good emulator box though especially now that the price is low

why did OP post this exact same thread here after he got shit on in /vr/

>>720631692
because he gets paid to do so

>>720578867
If you're the kind of guy that downloads massive packs of every classic game ROM in existence and wants a place to offload them away from hard drive and have a way to cozily play them off your TV, it makes sense.
I'm not that kind of guy though.

damn,i need to update my adblocker,am getting shitty temu ads again

>>720632796
why do you need to "offload them away from your hard drive"? what does that even mean? You can just plug your computer up to the TV if you are above 70 IQ

>>720578163 (OP)
>Pi
they're gonna get copyright cease and desist any moment, so dumb naming it that

>>720631492
CRT Switchres is garbage compared to MiSTer's plug and play CRT that always just works

>And you use it in the same way as Mister boxes does
Nope, SNAC through MiSTer has zero latency and identical to how original controller reads inputs


>I have a 2009-tier high end PC that I salvaged specifically so I could hook it up to a CRT.
This just makes it even more obvious that it's fucking sour grapes tribalism shit. You are too poor or stupid to figure out MiSTer so you have to cope and try to rationalize about how it must not actually be good or worth it anyways. Spend the $200, get your poorfag ass a MiSTer and quit yer bitching

>>720631561
Fucking moron. Every core on MiSTer is as accurate or much moreso than original hardware, and that's not even mentioning the zero input lag and zero audio latency that is far and away better than software emulators.

>NES core has the highest result on AccuracyCoin testrom of any emulator in existence
>MD core gets one fail on the most intensive MD test rom, compared to 3-5 fails depending on version with the most accurate software emulators, BlastEm and Nuked
>GBA core is one of only a couple emulators in existence that passes AGS Aging Cartridge (Nintendo's own internal test for their hardware) with 100% accuracy
>NEOGEO core is cycle accurate using fucking decaps of original hardware and far better than MAME and FinalBurn
>Saturn core has 100% passed literally every test that even exists for the Saturn, blowing away software emulation
>N64 core has better accuracy, lower latency, and better compatibility than Ares, the most accurate N64 software emu
>PSX core is cycle accurate and has zero compatibility issues compared to the dozens of Duckstation and Mednafen
Etc etc.

Fucking cope with your shitty ass software emu poorfaggot

>>720634571
But you are the one bitching. I'm just explaining that most of the generic bulletpoints are applicable to PC too, and it has nothing to do with being a poorfag, since most people would have to buy the controller input converters, regardless if you are using Snac or Reflex (which both have zero input delay).
CRT switchres is also plug n play, it's insane that you are calling me stupid but then reveal yourself to lack intelligence to install a simple driver on PC. The optional CRT switchres configs are only ever needed if you have dual or tri-sync monitor, which most people don't since they just want and have 15khz TV. How is it so hard to understand, you tell me.

>>720627038
lol
lmao

>>720635317
SNAC has literally zero delay and functions identical to a real controller hooked up to a real console hooked up to a real CRT. ANY usb controller will inherently have latency

>CRT switchres is also plug n play
It requires constant manual adjustment and configuration, especially on different devices and changing resolutions, retard

>most people don't since they just want and have 15khz TV.
MiSTer can do 15khz and 31khz flawlessly

All this poorfag cope instead of just buying a MiSTer

>>720581456
that wasn't the question idiot
>>720578867
it's like the gamer equivalent of shopping at erewhon

>>720635317
CRT switchres is nonsense bullshit that laughably still flashes the desktop everytime a game changes resolutions so if you're playing PS1 games have fun with that.

Only reason I didn't bin my old emulation box after I got a mister is I found a widescreen ED CRT that has a 883i@75hz mode

>>720635613
>It requires constant manual adjustment and configuration, especially on different devices and changing resolutions, retard
It doesn't, you have pre-made list for all possible 15khz resolutions and refresh rates and it generates the profiles (you even have pre-made profiles for dual and tri sync monitors like D9000 series), you can manually tweak it, but there is no need since it should be done through physical pots on your CRT (and this is exactly how arcades configured their screens, certain games, like Xexex had wider field and had to move the vertical pots, it isn't a CRT switchres software issue).

>MiSTer can do 15khz and 31khz flawlessly
And CRT switchres can do 15khz, 24khz and 31khz flawlessly for any tri sync monitors.

>>720635741
>still flashes the desktop everytime a game changes resolutions
That's a retroarch issue, not the driver issue. Doesn't happen on other emulators.

it seems cheap until you realize you need the case and all the controller add-ons and shit

>>720635317
Your setup
>costs more
>larger form factor
>worse input lag
>worse audio latency
>worse accuracy
>worse compatibility with peripherals (and more lag with them)
>worse performance (especially in Ares, Mednafen, etc)
>worse ease of use with CRT (especially 5th gen)
>unavoidable 1-2 frames of V-Sync lag on 60Hz displays due to no low-lag mode equivalent (even RetroArch can't do this)
Why are you defending it retard?

>>720609993
Authenticity. FPGA is for those who want to relive the experience as it was back then. It aims to replace the original hardware.
It's not just about the game, it's also about the system even with its limitations.

>>720633378
If you're a retro gaming autist downloading romsets that can reach several hundred gigabytes, I can imagine shoving all that onto a dedicated 1000 in 1 plug-n-play game console takes a load of your own PC storage and feels more comfortable to that demographic.
I'm not that kind of autist so I have no issues downloading individual games as I want them and playing games straight from my computer.

my $200 chinkheld is better.

>>720578163 (OP)
thats 185$ too much for an emulator.

Pretty cool but I've already got consoles and everdrives and xstation and shieet

>>720626896
The vast majority of people emulating do not care about accuracy, they care about playing old games for free. Buying an FPGA for single player games is silly. If you're playing multiplayer and don't have any retro hardware it's fine.

Use MAME

my $20 chinkheld is better

>>720634984
I have original hardware. I don't need all these copes about emulation that you have for your emulation box.

>>720637643
I still don't get what you mean. Why wouldn't you just play them off the hard drive. And why do you hate autism so much when you are on an autistic website?

>>720641970
wut? why would it not be good for single player but only for multiplayer?

ADVERTISING/BEGGING
SPAM/FLOODING

It is pretty nice how the whole "HARDWARE ACCURATE" argument just died.
Maybe was just people learning how the thing actually work.
Now if people accept that most commercial games just run fine on emulators, despite cheating to achieve the results, i think will be enough.

>>720579307
>an all-in-one retro box that could feasibly accept original controllers,
so, a computer?

>>720644137
But you can't play the games at subhuman resolutions on subhuman screens.

>>720644624
Yes i can.
It's 480i instead of 240p, and slightly blurrier than a real system (except the mega drive, it absolutely trounces the fuck out of the mega drive), but the motion clarity is so good it is worth it.
Also DC and up run exactly the same as the real system.

>>720644797
>can't read
I'm endorsing the MiSTer, because it allows you to be poor and act poor. True aryan white men from Brazil are poor.

>>720644797
that looks like shit. unironically get a fpgay or something.

>>720644991
Show me yours then.

>>720643924
Because if I'm playing single player I will just play games at my desk, on my phone, etc. If I'm hosting or playing MP at a friend's house, then the portability is a plus.

>>720584259
>14 cents a kilowatt hour
Damn. I'd be spending like $500 A DAY on that shit.

>>720578163 (OP)
Emulation is cheaper and better, now fuck off marketeer.

>>720645103
No way, fag.

>>720644137
>madokatroon
>completely retarded and making shit up
an iconic duo

>>720646548
First, "hardware accurate" is shit like this:
http://visual6502.org/JSSim/index.html
FPGAs don't this.

Second, If a game output every pixel as the real game, have the same behavior and sounds the same, you can say it is the same game, right?
Even if for example it is using a different math to reach the same color.

Thank you all for your collaboration, the sale is booming :)

>>720646826
>Second, If a game output every pixel as the real game, have the same behavior and sounds the same, you can say it is the same game, right?
first, learn english pablo
>b-but if it kinda looks and sounds the same, then it's the same! don't look any deeper into it!
second, you will never be a woman

>>720647131
>keeps calling people trannies when his community is exclusively made up of trannies
>calls out an ESL (rightfully) even though he's a third worlder
You don't get to do that unless you fluently speak American like Jesus did.

>>720647028
No problem shill-bro. Hope you get that 50 cents to feed your 5 kids.

>>720595305
>I have every console daisy chained together with an RF connection
ULTIMATE SOVL

>>720646158
>Emulation is cheaper
Sure poorfag
>and better
LMFAOOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no

>>720648959
>price of emulation: $0
>cost to download plugins to improve your experience or performance: $0

>>720649264
Nigger you don't need inaccurate plugin bullshit and input lag out the ass when you have identical original hardware experience with FPGA

>>720649404
>identical
Closer

>can't do Dreamcast
>can't do PS2

We have nothing to discuss.

>>720643704
name/link?

>>720648959
it is

>>720650081
switch 2

>>720649404
I don't want identical. I want better.

>>720650113
that's not 20 dollars

>>720649404
Spoken like a true midwit. Just wait until you find out that 90% of FPGA cores are just emulators rewritten in VHDL and that you can get below native input lag on any modern PC emulator.

>>720649404
>input lag
its negligible unless you're some speedrunner tranny

>>720649404
>buh-b-bu-b-but it's inaccurate! you should be playing with 100% fidelity!
I don't care, moron. You're saying a bunch of gibberish that doesn't affect the games unless you're an autistic speedrunner.

>>720650226
it will be in a few years

>>720624375
>$50 HP mini PC with a 2200g
they cost 300+ now
maybe 400
>>720582674
chinese mini pc broke after 1 year

>>720579307
I already have one-in-all box and im posting from it. I dont need to pay 200 to use my own PC.

Imagine playing on a CRT.

>>720650763
Based TAA chad.

>>720578163 (OP)
fyi this can barely play snes, you still need to spend 200-350 more for ps1/early 90s arcade games. 450-650 for saturn/64.

>>720650763
This is why I prefer a CRT and real hardware.

>>720582674
>smart choice
>underpowered piece of shit that's only good for one thing and destined to become a server for your printer in 2 years if it doesn't burn out due to poor quality parts
If you wanted to make a smart decision then you could go to a pawn shop with $200 and get a shitty laptop to do the same thing (and likely spending under $100 at that).
>$200? That's way too expensive!
Chances are you'll be spending under that for a pawn shop laptop, and it has the benefits of being a shitty laptop that you can do everything a shitty laptop can do. Emulate, stream, lay it down on your chest while you jerk off, everything that you'd want a shitty laptop to facilitate. And if you want to spend less, you can just spend $0 and continue emulating on whatever phone or PC you're posting from.

>>720595067
I remember this retard's threads.

>>720650763
what the fuck is happening to that car
imagine posting this unironicall

>>720644624
throwing the word "subhuman" around like a troglodyte just learning english won't make you appear any less of a butthurt retard.

>>720580127
I want the real experience

>>720650240
Retard. Hardware emulation has a ton of inherent advantages. It has much better inherent accuracy, ceiling for accuracy, way easier to dev for, targets a single spec, zero input latency, zero audio latency, and native support for CRTs and OEM controllers.

But that still doesn't mean you hit the "make core" button and put poofs a perfectly accurate core. So it's a good thing we had/have the brightest and most passionate minds in the space working tirelessly to make the most perfect cores possible.

As it stands now, basically every single main core is 100% compatible, has zero recorded issues, is more accurate than the most accurate software emus, and is completely indecipherable from OG hardware using any game in the library even to the most scrutinized criteria.

>NES core has the highest result on AccuracyCoin testrom of any emulator in existence
>MD core gets one fail on the most intensive MD test rom, compared to 3-5 fails depending on version with the most accurate software emulators, BlastEm and Nuked
>GBA core is one of only a couple emulators in existence that passes AGS Aging Cartridge (Nintendo's own internal test for their hardware) with 100% accuracy
>NEOGEO core is cycle accurate using fucking decaps of original hardware and far better than MAME and FinalBurn
>Saturn core has 100% passed literally every test that even exists for the Saturn, blowing away software emulation
>N64 core has better accuracy, lower latency, and better compatibility than Ares, the most accurate N64 software emu
>PSX core is cycle accurate and has zero compatibility issues compared to the dozens of Duckstation and Mednafen
Etc etc.

Fucking cope with your shitty ass laggy software emu poorfaggot

>>720651025
Absolutely wrong and retarded post. This is fully prebuilt and ready to play fifth gen with more accuracy and better performance than the best software emulators

>>720654998
>durr muh accuracy... muh accuraccy... accuracy.........
Who gives a shit? If I'm playing Kirby Superstar, I don't care that there's a rounding error once every thousand hours of gameplay or that my inputs might be 0.01ms too late. Unlike you, most people are not autistic retards that give a shit about any of that.

>>720655284
>it's not more accurate!!!
>get btfo
>ummm well ackchyually accuracy doesn't matter chud
Next you'll tell me far better input lag, far better audio latency, support for OG controllers and peripherals (or any USB controller in existence), and plug and play native play on CRT or 4kTV with zero lag doesn't matter.

Cope with your poorfag software emu fag