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>>720648187 (OP)
Do you think the Japanese businessmen in a board room discussed how they could make ditto look non-binary so that both genders could immerse themselves?

why does everyone say it steals from minecraft? Like actually I don't get it...

>>720648619
Because poketards are braindead and they think placing blocks = Minecraft

>>720648187 (OP)
>Minecraft invented building and terraforming
>Harvest Moon invented farming

Is it weird that this is the first Pokémon game I'm excited for since Super Mystery Dungeon?

>>720648436
you realize that you can choose a male or female appearance, right?

>>720648436
Yes. The whole nobinary shit is popular among Japanese women in the workplace.

>>720648619
Cubes. Something like dragon quest builders feels a bit more Minecraft adjacent with it’s building mechanics. This just looks like animal crossing made from building blocks so they wouldn’t have to worry about the graphics/direction and putting the landscape together.

>>720648836
>Pokemon invented monster catching
>Pokemon invented proxy battling

>>720648187 (OP)
where were harvest moon and minecraft when it was time to patent their mechanics?

>>720648187 (OP)
if a certain game didnt blatantly copy their character designs, nintendo wouldnt have to be so aggressive with protecting their IP.

>>720648436
>that
>non-binary

go suck on a loaded gun, retard

>>720649008
Palworld is like the voice actors on the Simpsons. Their selfish greed ruined it for everyone forever.

>>720648916
why does the internet always work so fast

>>720649008
BUN BUN CARROTOOO

>>720648436
Ditto is female (BFHC)

>Make a pokemon game in a genre where it would finally make sense to have pokegirl dating mechanics
>they make all the characters hideous ditto goblins

>>720648945
Don't pretend Palword was trying to be anything but pokemon with guns

>>720648916
Internet, why are you like this?

>>720649091
I don't think Nintendo deserves to fuck them over and make shady patents to prevent other games from doing Pokemon-esque things, but the fact that Palworld is just Ark mixed with Pokemon makes me not give a shit that they're getting targeted.

>>720648842
perfectly reasonable if you're not into the spin-offs since then as they've mostly been relegated to shameless mobile gacha games.

>>720649281
If you actually read the patent you'll see it's nothing.

It's a necessary move because when they took Palworld to court, which everyone could tell was a shameless ripoff, the judge gave them a harder time than expected.

>>720648187 (OP)
i've always wondered how cut-throat the battlefield for kids attention is. Like they make the most cute shit but the business department is the most shrewd rats ever seen.

>>720649185
Reminder that Elli won the harvest moon bowl bigly

>>720648842
Nah, I don't really give a shit about Pokemon and I want to play this.

>>720649425
I have no idea. When I was a kid, if there was a cartoon we watched it, if there was a game we played it. Kids today have every cartoon and game ever made available to them for free.

>>720649095
>>720649271
internet, hello?

>>720648842
I'm slightly optimistic about it. My only fear is that it will only be crafting stuff and farming. I hope there's stuff to do in between all of that.

>>720648436
it's literally just so the player can make their ditto look like them or how they want it to look..

>>720649095
because artists are also attention whores who want to be "le first"

Why is Nintendo so evil?

>>720649256
>pokemon invented leveling up
>pokemon invented elemental systems
>pokemon invented turn based combat
>pokemon invented inventory systems
>pokemon invented exploration
>pokemon invented collecting
>pokemon invented item usage
>pokemon invented status effects
>pokemon invented healing
>pokemon invented... ad infinitum

that anon never mentioned palworld

>>720649609
It better not be animal crossing. I hate animal crossing. There's nothing to do and yet that's what people want. If I wanted to do nothing I'd not turn on my console.

>>720649281
The patent thing is being overblown, Nintendo isn't going to suddenly forbid anyone from making a monster catcher game. Digimon, SMT, Monhunt stories and shit like TemTem are safe.
They're specifically targeting Palworld, and while Nintendo is admittedly being pretty underhanded about it, it's pretty obvious why they're doing it.

>>720648187 (OP)
if I were moderator I'd ban any and all posts that contain images from external social media sites. it would be a better board because of it.

>>720649715
Then figure out what the thread is about before being a retard

>>720648916
fake cunny

>>720649185
considering the last game they are trying to make the characters ugly, but after making absolute semen demons for decades it will take a few attempts. Maybe you can romance the porkymans

>>720649775
Once you ascend to the ivory tower your priorities change.

>>720649775
Seeing an entire page of public bans because of social media reposts would only fuel the fire

>Rebuild society
or
>Become a whore

>>720648842
if you got excited about any pokemon game past gen 5 besides coping about some spin-offs like this, pokken and PMD being potentially good you are a delusional retard

>>720649775
And then you scare away a large part of your user base, lowering clicks and causing a shortage of money, which leads to a worse user experience, which scares away a large part of your user base, lowering clicks and causing a shortage of money, which leads to...

>>720648842
I think it's weird you're excited for anything involving pokemon.

>>720649762
I had a friend that was seething about the patent and he legitimately believed that Nintendo would try and take down shit like Elden Ring because you can summon things. I think some people just want to be unreasonably mad at things nowadays, especially if it's the popular talking point of the week.

>>720649849
true.
>>720649956
>>720650031
and nothing of value would be lost.

>>720649281
>but the fact that Palworld is just Ark mixed with Pokemon makes me not give a shit that they're getting targeted
Especially because Pocketpair has a track history of making games that are just [Popular thing, but perpetual Early Access Edition], which they all but abandon as soon as their next project comes out. Before Palworld, it was Craftopia.

>>720650031
>And then you would scare away the worthless fucking cretins
sounds like a great idea to me.

>>720648619
minecraft invented the voxel based world design, duh. ignore everything else that came before it doesn't count

>>720650073
I've been playing a lot of Pokérouge lately. It's fun.

>>720650031
Yes, yes, yes
Please let this happen
PLEASE

>>720650115
>>720650163
>if a site doesn't contain exactly what i personally prefer, it should not exist
And this is why you two aren't in any real position of power.

>>720650212
>if a site doesn't contain exactly what I personally prefer
yes. that was the reasoning behind elon musk's purchase of twitter. don't tell me.

>>720650207
the end result is the site no longer existing, anon
hiroshimoot is a greedy jew
the moment this site stops making money, it will cease to exist

>>720650278
YES
YES
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN
PLEASE

>>720650267
It actually has more of the way of how the amusement park Sunnyside lost its customers and had to close.

>>720650347
Please see >>720650212

>>720650190
I'm more of a Pokécream fan myself

>>720650278
If 4chan LITERALLY cannot survive without being a shithole, then it does not deserve to exist. Stop posting clickbait. Fuck you.

>>720650536
I don't want to be in power, I just want off this fucking site I've been addicted to for nearly two decades at this point

>>720650571
There is no such fangame

>>720650645
I quit 4chan for 4 months. It was nice.

>>720650705
There is no Pokérouge either so I thought we were talking about Sonic girls

>>720650645
>I just want off this fucking site I've been addicted to for nearly two decades at this point
Same, but I fear that once it goes down, a new one will pop up that's just close enough to reel me in and keep the addiction going. I'm glad the alternatives right now are pure dogshit because that week away back in April felt pretty great.

>2025
>I am forgotten
Why bros? Why didn't they just make DQB3?

>>720650848
>There is no Pokérouge either so I thought we were talking about Sonic girls
Cheeky bugger.

>>720648187 (OP)
And their main character for it is a pokemon that copies other pokemon badly

>>720650185
And Pokemon invented summoning and riding creatures, right

>>720650884
Never ever.

>>720650575
>then it does not deserve to exist
"Deserving" to exist, according to... you? Don't make me laugh.
>>720650645
Sounds like a (you) problem to me.
>no one may be allowed to drink soda because i can't stop drinking it

>>720650849
>that week away back in April felt pretty great.
There was a blessed few days after the site came back where everyone was relatively chill.

>>720648187 (OP)
This person doesn't play enough video games. They stole from Squeenix who made Dragon Quest Builders who not only will never sue Nintendo over this but they'll quietly tamp down any internal desire to make Builders 3 because of it. Only Western and Chinese companies fight back.

>>720649762
Yes, they're doing it because Palworld is an actual threat to them, the message is clear if you dare actually out-compete Nintendo then prepared to be sued

>my DQB
No one cares about Dragon Quest much less a spinoff title of the main games

DQ is always inferior to AAAAAA titles like Pokemon

Notch and Microshit should sue Nintendo and put them in their place, they'll never interact professionally anyway unlike Snoy so there is no loss on either side

>>720651081
And who did Dragon Quest Builders steal from anon

>>720651063
Posting twitter, facebook, and reddit screenshots here is hardly existing

>>720651035
Yes, now seethe Palword cuck.

>>720651063
why is your entire personality
>if you can't be clever, just be annoying
? so many people like that online these days.

>>720648867
Fake

>>720651209
Then Minecraft invented the voxel based world design, duh

>>720651171
Nintendo has had a chip on their shoulders about Minecraft for a decade plus at this point. I actually think they apologized at some point because they didn't make it and felt like they should have lmao

>>720651234
If everyone else seems to be the problem, it's more likely that you yourself are the problem.

>>720648619
Funnily enough it's actually made by the Dragon Quest Builders devs.

>>720649379
>shameless ripoff
>plays nothing like any Pokemon game
nintendo fanboys are beyond retarded

>>720651296
Turning both Zelda and DK into Minecraft ripoffs somehow didn't tip people off about this

>>720651185
Elements inspired by Minecraft and base defense games combined with city building. I don't really see how it is Harvest Moon. DQB was a unique combination and this is a copy.

>>720651312
thanks for that little pearl of wisdom I guess. you didn't answer the question, though.

>>720648187 (OP)
It looks like Dragon Quest Builders. It's the same team. People aren't making that connection because apparentlt no one outside of Japan played DQB. I loved DQB2 and got 300 hours from it so if I get even half of that time out of Pokopia I'll be satisfied.

What looks fun about this? I don't get it. It's likely going to be an extremely limited building sim where all you can do is make mediocre Pokémon-themed towns.

>>720651387
>Turning both Zelda and DK into Minecraft ripoffs
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>720651405
And Palworld has elements inspired by Pokemon but plays more like Ark, I don't really see how it infringes on Pokemon patents. Palworld was a unique combination and Pokopia is a copy.

>>720648436
>libs created androgyny
>ditto, the pokemon who has always been genderless, is a lib conspiracy

>>720651421
I didn't answer it because it is nonsensical.
"Why are you so dumb?" isn't a question, it's an insult.

Instead of ripping off other franchises they literally have AC to copy

>>720651474
They cited Minecraft as an inspiration for BOTW/TOTK, Bananza is very clearly trying to be "DK but Minecraft"

They're still seething they didn't invent Minecraft

>>720651461
Do you like Pokémon?
Do you want to hang out with Pokémon?

>>720650884
Why didn't they just make the combat not absolutely shit?

A simple parry/dodge button and this game would be 10/10.

>>720650090
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but your friend appears to be addicted to youtube ragebait

>>720651525
you don't like questions, huh? well here's a statement: your entire personality is "if you can't be clever, be annoying" like so many people seem to be online these days, and it's painfully evident. have a nice day.

>>720651683
I hope all this namecalling made you feel better, at least.

>>720650125
yep, their next game is a hollow knight ripoff for example.

>>720651748
no, not really. in the end this is still a thread in which there is absolutely no substantive topic, that is held together by an image from some shitty and irrelevant external social media site. since you have no argument as to why such dogshit should be tolerated, all that can be done is attempt to elucidate to you your behavior. I didn't expect it to be effective, but it bears mentioning.

>>720650884
Malroth my beloved meathead.

>>720650884
they did, they just put an IP people actually care about on it so it would sell.

>>720651914
>no, not really
Then why keep doing it? You do know you can just close the tab when you see something you don't agree with, right?

>>720651858
I thought you just meant it was a metroidvania game but god damn it really is just Hollow Knight.

Even I have to question if things have gone "too far".

>>720652082
>Hollow Knight invented.. underground platforming games

>>720652036
yes, I am aware. however, it's not enough to simply remove myself from the scenario. in fact, I would have already done that by now, had you not attempted to be such a smartass and engage me with your childish quips. no, it's important that I express myself and allow others to know and understand what I feel and why. do you have a problem with that? surely, you musn't, otherwise you would have no one with which you could squabble over pointless shit.

>>720652165
I can't believe this is official promotional art

>>720652202
Ah, so you're a high-level autist. That explains a lot.

Daily reminder that there may be Dittos posters in this very thread

>>720652168
I'm usually willing to give some games some slack if they're inspired by others, but the style is very obviously aping Hollow Knight.

>>720648619
Because Minecraft does nothing good with Minecraft.

>>720651985
With the Pokemon IP it will be even more railroaded and babyish than with Dragon Quest. I doubt it will properly do justice to the base building and villager job systems either.

>>720652356
They could be in this very room. They could be you, they could be me, they could even be-

>total patent based lawsuits initiated by nintendo:
>2
>one of them isn't even over game mechanics

you ever think that maybe it's just palworld that's the problem

>>720652289
now who's resorting to name calling? listen, I'd like to say that this has been anything other than a pointless waste of time, but that'd be a lie. not that it matters, though. this entire dogshit thread is an exercise in futility. now please, have the final (You). I'm sure you'd appreciate it. anything to get you to shut up, honestly.

>>720652374
You can't copyright style, otherwise Pokemon would be in deep shit for copying Akira Toriyama's style

>>720652374
It may come to a shock to you, but people don't care about games copying other games as along as the game is good.
It's why Palworld became so popular in the first place.

>>720652460
what was the other one? if your referring to the Colopi thing i'm pretty sure that was a counter-suit, so not initiated by nintendo.

>>720652374
TEAM CHERRY
SUE THEM

>"we need to make more money with absolutely no effort, what do we do?"
>"lets just mix pokemon with another game, like animal crossing"
>"but what about he infinitely better games about base building and monster collecting that are out there? Our -new- game looks like it was made in 2010"
>"just bribe a patent out of thin air and sue them!"
And there are people out there who still believe in nintendo.

>>720652471
>now who's resorting to name calling?
You think having autism is a bad thing?
I merely made the observation that your behaviour makes it very likely that you are very autistic.
Not really nice of you to speak so negative about people like yourself, anon. Have some self-respect.

>>720652598
>tripfag is retarded
what else is new. This is literally Dragon Quest Builders 3 made by the dragon quest builders team, this has literally nothing to do with any lawsuit.

>>720648842
it's a reskin of another game by the devs of said game. so yeah.

>>720649256
it was more like Ark with pokemon

I don't hold Pokéfags in high regard, but Palfags have still somehow managed to be ten times worse in every conceivable regard.

>>720648187 (OP)
Fuck Nintendo.

>>720652787
>Pokéfags
>é

>>720652541
yeah, that thing
so I guess it's just one lmao

but no, gaming as we know it will end because 'tendo dared to file a patent

>>720648187 (OP)
Maybe stop buying nintendoslop to make a point? Last time I bought anything nintendo was when they released the new nintendo 3ds.

>>720652787
And are these, Pal, Fags as you call them, Are they in the room with us right now?

>>720652958
sadly, yes

>>720649091
>nintendo dindu nuffin
Actual disgusting corpo-bootlickicker

Every game company should start a class action lawsuit against Nintendo and sue them into oblivion.

>>720648187 (OP)
No, Minecraft didnt create everything, Patrick.

>>720648436
*taps the sign*
You /pol/ tourists need to grow a brain.

>>720648842
yes

>>720653018
>Everyone sues Nintendo into the dirt.
>Immediately after, another company decides to start making patents for their games because now they're the top dog who wants to stay at the top.
>Rinse and repeat.

>>720652460
no its nintendo, bootlicking faggot

>>720653359
we don't sign our posts here
and I don't care what you do in your free time, that shit's disgusting, keep it to yourself

>>720653057
>pic
Not everybody is faggot, faggot

>>720652374
they deserve zero slack, the head of the studio openly admits they just copy whatever is currently popular

>>720653445
>no u
>we
>reddity passive agressive tone
Who asked you and why you are telling me this gay shit, faggot?

>>720653557
now you're not even sure of your sexuality anymore?
have you tried therapy, you seem confused

>>720648187 (OP)
If Nintendo does somehow work up the balls to patent aspects like open-world sandbox block-based construction and farming simulator crop growing, could they legally get away with it despite even though other much older games utilize these mechanics?

>>720653678
Why would they, they don't have anything banking on all of those at the same time.

>>720652165
>girl Ditto image gets deleted in less than 10
>this is still up almost 30 minutes later

Mods are ACTUALLY fags.

>>720652460
>you ever think that maybe it's just palworld that's the problem
No, I have no reason to default to Nintendo being right. If you want me to think it is a palworld problem you would need to show where they copied Nintendo's mechanics.

>>720649609
If it's anything like dragon quest builders 1/2 (same team), you'll go from area to area solving problems
No reason why they wouldn't do it here too, different types and different biomes=possibilities for new building materials

>>720653983
So it's like Actraiser?

>>720654147
you mean Koei Tecmo, but they have the same track record of shit optimization.

>>720652374
Yeah I don't usually hold style against a game. Inspiration is flattering. But this is like 99.9% hollow knight. The hanging leaves/roots, the chains, the white scrawls on irregular shaped signs, the stone, the gloom and the ambient light falling off from the center. The bright slashes of light. The HUD (more or less). Even the moss under the platforms screams I'M HOLLOW KNIGHT. I wouldn't be surprised if it even ripped some art from it.

>>720654182
Sort of? Not really, but the spirit is there
Basically you rebuild everything up from scratch with certain specific rooms and specifications and then defend it against a few waves of monsters
It's sort of like that Minecraft mod millenaire but more story driven and in depth

>>720653678
Nigga Pokopia is literally Minecraft Harvest Moon with Pokemon sprinkled on it

>>720648187 (OP)
It's not irony it's hypocrisy

>>720653935
I mean you can look at the patents
or if you can't read, just look at what they removed from their game and cross-reference off of that; you'll get the picture

>>720654446
I hope you can marry other trainers/pokemon and have horrible ditto hybrid children.

>>720654446
>If you don't fuck a Pokémon by the end of the year, it's game over

On-brand for a Ditto protag.

>>720654446
No, what it literally is is dragon quest builders

>>720652498
>people don't care about games copying other games
That's just factually not true. Remember this game following on the heels of Cuphead? People gave them unending shit for copying Cuphead, though I would argue from your perspective that it really doesn't matter outside execution.
And while yes, the game did end up being shit, people definitely cared before they found that out.

>>720648436
>>720648436
It looks like a girl you retard. It's owner is a female, there's a fucking image in the beginning of the trailer.

>>720648842
No. Main line Pokemon is junk and the spin offs usually are good.

>>720654593
And it's made by DQ Builders developers.
But we have to show our ignorance by insisting that Game Freak is plagiarizing because... Minecraft invented cubes and Harvest Moon invented farming...

>>720652498
>>720654773
I would say the difference between this and Palworld is Cuphead is an indie darling. A self-made studio up from the ashes. But Pokemon? A multi-billion dollar company that coasted on its name for like entire generations now? Definitely did not earn that good will like Studio MDHR did.

>>720648436
The reason why Link looks feminine is so that both male and female players can immerse themselves better when playing Zelda. No I'm not making that up, Eiji Aonuma literally said that

>>720651503
>androgyny is when it is not clear if a person is neither male or female, not someone who is neither
>people are saying its impossible for a HUMAN to be genderless because gender means reproductive organs. they do not claim other species like amoebas can be genderless
>game is literal magical animals
anon youre just retarded

>>720655062
Sorry, but stealing is wrong, whether from a homeless person or a billionaire

>>720655210
And this is why you will always be poor.

>>720655135
Aonuma is a hack and a fag. The best Link (OoT) was modeled after Leonardo Decaprio, according to sources inside the studio. And Leo back then definitely wasn't androgenous.

>>720654963
Been a while since we had a proper spinoff that wasn't phoneslop, huh?

>>720655210
Imitating is not stealing. You are needlessly handicapping yourself in the name of an honor the entire industry does not value.

>>720655238
and so will those palworld faggots be after nintendo takes everything from them down to their last red cent

>>720654773
People didn't like that game because it was an objectively bad game.
RuneScape: Dragonwilds copied Valheim and people didn't care because it's a fun game.

>>720655210
"Stealing" an idea and making it your own is not the same as stealing something and re-releasing it

>>720655393
>People didn't like that game because it was an objectively bad game.
Please read the whole post next time. The game was getting heat LONG before it dropped.

>>720648187 (OP)
I hate that they made the joke from the pokemon anime canon
Ditto has always been able to transform into a perfect copy

pokemanbabies will eat literal shit just because it has Pokemon trademark on it.

>>720648187 (OP)
This is how you know these people are literally parroting whatever they hear from their masters. Square Enix and then Koei Tecmo were the ones who made Dragon Quest Builders.
Now Koei Tecmo is once again making the same game but with Pokemon, it's not a game made by Nintendo directly, it's all Koei Tecmo with the help from Gamefreak who are lending the licensing.

>>720655393
>people didn't care because it's a fun game.
People should care about paying $30 for that crap

>>720655393
>RuneScape: Dragonwilds copied Valheim and people didn't care because it's a fun game.
Really? Last I heard it was an unfinished, early access ripoff that only coasted by because it used the Runescape name.

>>720653156
It's ok as long as nintendo loses.

>>720655528
People whining on Twitter do not matter.
I am going to repeat this.
People whining on Twitter DO NOT MATTER.
The only thing that matters when it comes to a game's success is whether it sells or not.
And that game didn't sell because it was an objectively bad game, as you can clearly see in the negative reviews on Steam.
>>720655640
You call it crap despite not even having played it. Curious!
>>720655664
I'm very curious from who you heard that from, because you heard wrong.
People liked the game well enough (currently sitting at a 80+% rating), but since it's currently in early access, people are waiting on more content to come out for it.

>>720654495
I could say the same in Palworld's defense. I've played both games and I'm aware of how both work. I trust my own experience rather than defaulting to Nintendo's argument being correct.

>>720655907
>it's currently in early access, people are waiting on more content to come out for it.
So it's crap then.

>>720656016
Not according to most people who actually played it.

>>720655928
well good thing people with more sense than you are in charge of all this then

>>720655610
And?
How's that invalidating the argument?

>>720656016
Overwhelmingly positive on steam. Still gets around 20k players on average. It's a good game despite only being like 2/3 of the way finished

>>720655610
Retards literally don't play games so they have to find something to get mad about. I'm hyped as fuck because this will b6awically be DQB 3.

>>720656223
Why lie about something so easily checked?

>>720656115
the argument is that it's a dragon quest builders game that has nothing to do with minecraft like you are suggesting, maybe play it sometime so you stop looking like an idiot.

>>720656098
I actually do know more about video games and I'm more sensible than lawyers and judges. The outcome would also be better or at least neutral for everyone if I were in charge.

>>720656281
>this will b6awically be DQB 3.
Anon, it's made by Game Freak.
It's gonna be a pile of shit like everything else they're responsible for.

>>720656281
I never would've thought people actually liked those builder games. Are they a significant improvement from minecraft and animal crossing?

>>720656223
hmmm, yes. I see.

>>720656343
Nice job showing everyone just how retarded you are.

>>720656432
They're progression focused, building is sort of secondary.

Combat is fairly shit but everything else is very good.

>>720650090
Anon Nintendo isn't getting a patent on summing mechanics and if they try to sue palworld again they'll lose again. Jesus you people really are a retarded nintendo cult.

>>720656376
it's made by the same people who already made the same kind of game before, except Gamefreak is there to supervise that the pokemon stuff is correct.

>>720648436
I expected this kind of post from the OP twitter screenshot

>>720656570
Complete and utter copium.

>>720651209
Seems like your tue one seethingnif a game no-one plays anymore is making you cry about it still. Fitting since nintendo keeps crying about it and losing lawsuits over it too.

>>720656462
Then what's the Recent Review rating

>>720650090
it's literal brainwashing by the media, they make people upset until they snap and start doing crazy shit.

>>720648187 (OP)
I hate when people use irony wrong.

Why don’t other companies also aggressively patent troll if it worked out so well for Nintendo?

>>720649762
>They're specifically targeting Palworld, and while Nintendo is admittedly being pretty underhanded about it, it's pretty obvious why they're doing it.
It's not even underhanded really because the new patent doesn't have anything to do with Palworld nor can they introduce to patents to the case. It's just a patent they filed.

>>720656550
Hey you giant brown skinned RETARD learn to read English he says his friend "legitimately believed" not "NINTENDO LEGITIMATELY 100% FOR REAL THIS IS NOT A LIE IS GOING TO SUE AND DELETE ELDEN RING"
practice on Reddit a bit more before trying your English skills on this board thx

>>720656697
Those are 1.5% of people who don't like the game.

>>720656550
>Anon Nintendo isn't getting a patent on summing mechanics
Yeah, no dip. That's why I implied that my friend was stupid for thinking that.

The problem is that we are largely at a point in video games where "that's been done before". Pretty much any game is going to be somehow derivative of something before it. What would a monster catching game even look like if someone went well out of their way to make sure they didn't retread ANY steps already taken by anyone else before? Could it be done? Patents as overarching as "I summon a thing to fight for me" would basically close everyone out of the entire genre. I'd probably be less frustrated if game freak's recent business strategy wasn't just releasing steaming shit and then suing the competition.

>>720654495
Just like how koei owns a patent for save data bonuses, can't wait for Nintendo to be sued for bdsp and legends.

>>720656915
They do and it has. Many corporations own patents to video game features that only they can use.

>>720656668
you should lay off of it.

>>720648187 (OP)
What were the mechanics they patented?

>>720656956
So all languages is still just Very Positive, not Overwhelmingly, and you won't look at Recent.
Strange.

>>720657032
Anon, literally nothing you've claimed is substantiated.

>>720657032
he can't, that's his prescription for his terminal NDS

>>720656915
Well that's because Nintendo isn't patent trolling are they. That's why they're winning.

>>720657042
>(1)
>An example of a non-transitory computer-readable storage medium described herein a game program. The game program causing a processor of an information processing apparatus to execute: performing control of moving a player character on a field in a virtual space, based on a movement operation input; performing control of causing a sub character to appear on the field, based on a first operation input, and (a) when an enemy character is placed at a location where the sub character is caused to appear, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a first mode in which the battle proceeds based on an operation input, and (b) when the enemy character is not placed at the location where the sub character is caused to appear, starting automatic control of automatically moving the sub character that has appeared; and performing control of moving the sub character in a predetermined direction on the field, based on a second operation input, and, when the enemy character is placed at a location of a designation, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a second mode in which the battle automatically proceeds.
>According to the configuration of the above (1), the player can be allowed to perform two types of battles, that is, a battle by the first mode in which the player performs an operation input and a battle by the simpler second mode.
>(2)
>The game program may further cause the processor to start the automatic control after the battle by the second mode ends.
>According to the configuration of the above (2), since the sub character moves under automatic control even without the player making any instruction after the battle by the second mode ends, the time and effort for an operation by the player can be omitted.

>>720656915
they literally do

>>720657080
just because you refuse to see the truth doesn't make it unsubstantiated.

>>720657024
Even better, just like Nintendo's patents other gaming patents are made by companies that did the shit way later just to screw over competition, rather than something they actually invented.

>>720657074
My apologies, that was a different anon.
Yes, the game is not overwhelmingly positive, but merely very positive.
>you won't look at Recent
I shall ignore the fact that I'm talking to someone who is brown and repeat myself:
>Those are 1.5% of people who don't like the game.

>>720656986
>The problem is that we are largely at a point in video games where "that's been done before
That's not really how it works because there's no one way to execute a concept and that's how patents work. It's not about what it is as much as how it's done.
>What would a monster catching game even look like if someone went well out of their way to make sure they didn't retread ANY steps already taken by anyone else before
Anon that's not something that's a concern because no one owns those concepts.

>>720657203
>you refuse to see the truth
What truth is that, exactly?

>>720657267
Then I'll ignore that your entire post is a blatant lie, and we can all move on with our day

>>720657341
that KT are the ones making the game and that it is DQB x Pokemon

>>720657368
>your entire post is a blatant lie
What part of my post is a lie, exactly?
Do keep in mind that I am not >>720656223
That is a different anon.

That besides, the entire argument was about the game being positively reviewed.
Which is the case, as I have shown multiple times. Do you concede that point or are you going to keep being in denial?

>>720657461
>KT are the ones making the game
No, Game Freak and Koei Tecmo are developing the game together.
Any statement besides that one is pure conjecture.

>>720657493
Right, right.

>>720657597
keep your head buried in the sand, I guess. Make sure you come up for air from time to time.

>>720657617
>>720657682
Thank you both for conceding. I know it's hard.

>>720648436
>both genders
Excuse me? There's more than two.

>>720648187 (OP)
>/v/ defending nintendo
ins't the post-irony phase on board is already long over?

>>720656915
Everyone does it, but nobody actually enforces them because there is no need. Do you think if Nintendo makes a Kratos lookalike, bald, white skin, etc. in a Greek Methodology setting and names the main character Kratas, Sony is going to let them do that?

>>720657886
It's not irony or post-irony, it's just contrarian. /v/ will always play devil's advocate in every situation.

>>720657935
yes, because we must be better men.

>>720655135
That's retarded. Just make a female Link and a male Link.

>>720657886
If it currently fucks someone over, I'll defend it.

>>720648436
You're a fucking retard.

>>720656361
Why would DQB has nothing to do with Minecraft?

>>720648187 (OP)
Do you think anybody'll play this goyslop over Minecraft?

>>720658095
About that...

>>720658710
It's a Nintendo game. There are millions of manchildren ready and willing to pay 70 dollars + tax.

>>720648619
It's everyone's craft now

>>720657982
Playing Devil's advocate requires the person doing so to understand enough nuance to point out a valid argument for the opposition, not simply taking the opposing side because they like to maximize the amount of anger they can seed.

>>720658710
If there's people retarded enough to buy hundreds of dollars worth of cardboard because it has a Nintendo logo on it, what do you think?

>>720658805
yea but her game was shit

>>720657935
>but nobody actually enforces them because there is no need.
Oh they enforce them all the time. It's just that /v/ has an irrational hatred of Nintendo so you'll only ever hear about the things they do.
I mean how many people even know that Capcom was in a patent case with toei a few years back, Sega just raided some dude's home and Sony dmca'd Bloodborne kart?

>>720648187 (OP)
>screencap thread
who cares
anyway pokopia made me realize how hot and cute it would be to discover you have a ditto GF
like
>imagine your girlfriend that you’ve know for months accidentally lets out a cry and her expression is immediately replaced with that derpy eyes and smile
>she worries that you’ll be weirded out
>only to be shocked that you find it hot

>>720651573
how many pokemon can mimic nowadays

>>720659448
Everyone always forgets that Smeargle can learn Transform.

>>720659052
Her porn animations are great though

>>720659551
Smeargle is only known for Technician False Swipe
Everything else about it is forgettable; even its painter motif

>>720654593
I need to play this again now that it's 60fps on Switch 2.

Why do you retards keep comparing it to DQB? It looks nothing like it gameplay wise.

>>720657271
The problem with this is that it doesn't actually work the way it is supposed to work and they can still sue even if it is just a similar concept. /v/ also doesn't know the difference between a concept and a mechanic. People will say that not only is the idea of riding a creature is a concept, but the game's logic to implement how you ride the creature is also a concept even though that would ironically make using the same exact same mechanic ok even if it were the same.

>>720659968
What's the appeal? I feel like I've missed out.

>>720660054
Same devs. Koei Tecmo made the Builders games and they're also making Pokopia. >>720656570

>>720656570
>>720656376
>>720656432
>They never played DQ Builders
Imagine if Minecraft has an actual single player mode, with actual story, actual quests, actual gameplay, actual enemies, and everything is actually modeled and animated instead of being voxel placeholders that the hack known as Notch never changed from Minecraft (which was plagiarized from Infiniminer btw if anyone wants to cry about copying). Like actual roof pieces, actual uses for food items and ingredients, actual weapons, actual doors, windows, furniture, etc. Second game also has multiplayer and much deeper single player campaign.

>>720660284
The trailer already showed plenty of the game and it's nothing like DQB.
Are you a Nintendo cult member?

>>720660284
To be fair, I don't think we've seen much actual game play, so it's fair to be skeptical on whether it's going to play like DQB or something else like Animal Crossing/Harvest Moon.

>>720660331
>>They never played DQ Builders
Speak for yourself, wretch. DQB was alright, DQB2 was amazing.
Pokopia will be like every other Pokemon game: complete and utter trash.
Game Freak shall see to that.

>>720660504
>PC version
>Only 40 hours
You are jelly because you have no Switch. Game Freak will not be responsible for gameplay, only the Pokemon models.

>>720648187 (OP)
Jewtendo and it's retarded disney-adult tier fanbase are one of the worst things in modern gaming

>>720660504
Mystery Dungeon was my jam. And since Pokémon are real characters in this game, it evokes the same feeling.
In fact, the mystery dungeon part was the worst part of mystery dungeon so I'm glad they're shifting the gameplay.

>>720649008
Nintendo has been aggressive even before palworld.

>>720650125
>Pocketpair just releases low-effort, blatantly unfinished games again and again
Damn, they really are copying Pokemon, huh?

>>720660504
>PC version
Doesn't count. You most definitely cheated.

>>720649008
>Nintendo please shit in my mouth!

>>720648436
there's a boy version too
either ways i'm gonna fuck that ditto

>>720660763
>Mystery Dungeon was my jam.
And you know why? Because it was developed by Chunsoft, not Game Freak.

>>720657132
basically say goodbye to summon mechanics in 3D games anymore unless they want to tread on Nintendo's toes. If WoW came out today Blizzard would have to remove the Warlock class.

>>720660054
>the terrain colours (especially the silt on the beach)
>diglet hanging out in the crop field like the earthworm dude in DQB2
>gameplay loop involves recruiting more villagers with different abilities and providing housing for them
>breaking open the waterfall and the way the water flows down
>clearly on the same engine
>literally by the same dev team

>>720649762
>>720650090
Nintendo isn't going to sue every monster battling game, but they could. The fact that they could is a problem.
It's not the end of the world or anything, but it is a problem.
The patent never should have been granted. Patenting game mechanics is dumb in the first place. It's like patenting certain kinds of story plotlines or painting techniques.

>>720660703
>Game Freak will not be responsible for gameplay, only the Pokemon models.
Source? Oh wait! You don't have one.

>>720661151
Specifically Seiichiro Nagahata. But the guy's basically retired, so whatever.

>>720648436
That doesn't even look ambiguous. It's a girl

>>720661227
That's how all Pokemon spin-offs work. Game Freak provides the models and the actual devs do everything else.

>>720648619
It's all because of the Palworld lawsuit
>minecraft but DQ
People love it
>minecraft but Pokemon
People would love it if it wasn't for the retarded patent bullshit Nintendo has been doing ever since they got mindbroken by a shitty ripoff (that's still better what GF made in the last decade)

>>720648187 (OP)
goo child

>>720661195
Microsoft wouldn't allow that to happen.

>>720661345
>That's how all Pokemon spin-offs work.
Please refer to >>720661227

>>720661450
>People would love it if
the game was actually good instead of being a bare-bones tech demo with terrible optimization.

>>720649091
They just wanna crack Palworld, everyone else who blatantly copy Pokémon is safe.
Last week's direct had Monster Hunter Stories 3, which is basically Pokémon but MH, and Digimon is coming out in a few weeks.

>>720653057
I thought gamer chuds wanted male protags??

>>720661714
Refer to >>720661345

>>720661837
So your source is that you made it up?
That's not a very reliable source.

>>720661793
*who doesn't

>>720648436
Gr8 b8 mate

>>720652787
Palfaggots are just pokefags that hate Pokemon

>>720648187 (OP)
people straight up just imagine what those patents say instead of spending 5 minutes reading them

>>720659117
>Sony dmca'd Bloodborne kart?
do they know you're only supposed to dmca games you actually plan on making
disregarding that dmca wouldn't exist in an ideal world

>>720661793
Palworld is offensive. They shoot people with guns, and fucking kill and eat Pokémon. Nintendo must've realized how much worse things were going to get if they didn't put their foot down.

>>720661884
Refer to >>720661884

We're not getting Builders 3 anytime soon are we

What? The game is a blatant Viva Pinata ripoff lmao

>>720662485
Someone said that the director of 1 and 2 has left the company so probably not ever.

>>720661968
And worst of all: it's making MONEY that nintendo isn't making. fucking shameful

>>720661783
I just thought it would be good because I was thinking about DQ Builders

Paltards are legitimately the biggest mouthbreathing retards out there.

>>720660174
Basically you go from place to place and build/fix up ruined locales
The NPCs are much more useful than in Minecraft and require rooms/food/toilet, so on

>>720649008
this, shouldn't have poked the hornet's nest

>literal Japanese devs brazenly copy designs to the point where they even incorporate whole Pokemon models into their monsters
>n-no actually t-they're Chinese! Based Japanese people would never d-do that!!

>>720661964
>disregarding that dmca wouldn't exist in an ideal world
It would, creator protection would be necessary.

>>720663782
I haven't seen anyone legitimately defend Palworld in a long time. The discussion usually falls back on Nintendo/Pokemon not being able to cook the books as much as they are, but none of it is in direct defense of Palworld. I think we're past the point of anyone caring about PocketPair as a company and their only involvement is being the catalyst in Pokemon's bid for power.

>>720649008
The whole situation is hilarious
>make game with pokemon like designs
>people make fun of the pokemon like designs
>skip to the release and shitposters latch on to it to make fun of Nintendo
>peooke get serious about calling out their lack of creativity because they're all just being hounded by anti-tendies
>anti-tendies get butthurt and take it to social media spamming Nintendo's feeds
>Nintendo and TPC get fed up with their shit and actually have to launch an investigation due to the way IP laws work
>instead of designs the realise that a handful of mechanics are the same as in PLA that they patented in 2021
>they have to sue because of IP laws
>palfags get even more butthurt.

>>720665207
The amount of effort you put into this makes me unsure if you're baiting or actually believe this.

>>720664782
how do we stop companies taking concepts meant to protect individual artists and using them to crush individual artists?

>>720648187 (OP)
It's DQ builders and Animal crossing though...

>>720665330
What effort?
Typing with one hand in a phone while I eat? It's not a lot of words you know.

>>720665459
You leave it as is since it doesn't harm them unless they copy.

>>720648436
I hate all this faggotry but Ditto is literally genderless. It's actually a genius idea to use it as the playable character.

>>720650884
man that shit was incredibly boring to play

>>720648187 (OP)
repeat after me
IT'S OK WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT
RULES FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME

>>720665591
ah, so this is about protecting large companies then

>>720665837
Does what?

>>720665885
Anon, if you wanted a dystopia the you should have just said so since you're just asking for a world where people have arbitrary limits on them and not protections.

>>720650125
i'd rather have a world where devs can make obvious legally distinct ripoffs instead of a world where legitimate games can get squashed by patent trolling.
Normally, the ripoff is obvious to anyone and will be considered inferior. Palworld is an exception just because Pokemon really is THAT shit

>>720666153
>i'd rather have a world where devs can make obvious legally distinct ripoffs instead of a world where legitimate games can get squashed by patent trolling
Anon, that's just saying that you want things to stay the way they are since patent trolling never works but legally distinct rip offs exist. Look at how many kinds of light saber exist.

>>720653463
>Liking a women makes you a fag
the absolute state of the alphabet terrorists

>>720665837
I mean they hired the DQ builder devs to make the game so yes it's ok. That's how things should work.

>>720666153
Ripoffs stifle innovation. They're basically there to make a quick buck from then fuck off.
It's like how making indie books is such a mess because it has been reduced to grabbing a whole bunch of marketable concepts and then mashing it together into a book to compete against other books that are basically the same.

>>720666815
DQ Builders stole from Minecraft though, would Palworld have been in the clear if they poached Pokemon devs?

>>720652498
>people don't care about games copying other games as along as the game is good.
>It's why Palworld became so popular in the first place.

are you saying Palworld is popular because it isn't good?

>>720667019
>would Palworld have been in the clear if they poached Pokemon devs?
You're joking, right?
Because that's exactly what they did.

>>720667178
Well palworld is shovelware.

>>720667178
>are you saying Palworld is popular because it isn't good?
...no, the exact opposite. This entire thread is full of third-worlders, isn't it?

>>720656707
They are all correct.

This thread is oddly retarded. It would be like if people were complaining that Duskbloods was copying Bloodborne. They are made by the same people. As far as I can tell this game is being made by he same team behind DQB I&II.

>>720651081
The DQB devs are making this game retard

>>720667409
But they're not in the clear..

>>720648436
Rent free

>>720648619
Because whether you like or not Minecraft popularized Dirt Cubes that can be placed anywhere

>>720656707
lmao so twitter people can be funny and say "bad" things but only when they're seething
else you cant say nun' no nothing
the tolerant left everybody

>People siding with Nintendo have always thought it was because Palworld was copying Pokemon designs
>Pokemon fans go as far as to fabricate evidence to try and claim Nintendo can sue them for stealing models
>None of the lawsuits against Palworld have ANYTHING to do with the Pokemon designs
>Instead it's always basic ass mechanics like "Being able to ride on monsters" and "Using things as gliders"

>>720657935
>copyright vs patent infringement

>>720666934
Not innovating is not the same as stifling innovation. Anyone remains free to innovate in the sea of slop, and the hope is that the rare good examples rise to the top.
Oppressive copyright/lawyering is what stifles innovation, because a company can just sit on their formula and make shit games or not even do anything with it at all, and no one else is permitted to even try.

>>720668737
>Fabricate evidence
palfags are ridiculous

>>720650125
>which they all but abandon as soon as their next project comes out
Why are you resorting to lies anon? To defend a multi billionaire company?

DITTO SEX ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA TURN INTO WHITE GOOP RETARD ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA

>>720655061
And Nintendo and Pokemon invented riding summoned allies

>>720653983
Depends if Masuda was also "relegated" to "help" this team as well. ILCA got the Masuda treatment and then he golden parachuted away and let them get all the fluff from BDSP. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same here

Ah yes, patents!

>>720650090
>I think some people just want to be unreasonably mad at things nowadays, especially if it's the popular talking point of the week.
yes, that it called being a redditor

>>720670285
Wait, that was me.

>>720667019
From the pokemon devs?
No
From anyone else?
Yes
But the nitty gritty is just enforcement. If you don't enforce, you lose.

>>720670285
Back when retards making uneducated guesses got destroyed and not circle jerked to ad nausea by his discord friends

>>720670921
It was before 2016, so

>>720648187 (OP)
Rules for thee but not for me, it's the founding principal of all monopolies.

>>720648187 (OP)
>patents & copyright
why the fuck should consumers care about legal shite or whoever makes the games
the only thing that matters if they feel good to play

>>720648187 (OP)
Its just a shitpost Palworld, Nintendo has no shame anymore.

>>720665207
Its the same as piracy.
It used to be so easy to pirate nintendo stuff, to mod a wii, to remove the region lock on a gamecube, etc.
Then zoomies found out about it, started FLAUNTING it directly to nintendo online, and immediately began crying about it when nintendo showed up with the party van.

Literally all you had to do was shut the fuck up and they couldnt possibly. Like when kotaku told everyone to pirate dread, but threw such a fit when it resulted in them not getting a free copy of totk that they made fucking racist death threats, they seriously think they have a right to cry out. Very jewish.

>>720648842
No. This is the first Pokemon game that looks fun to me since Gold/Silver.

DQsnoys will never stop seething over Pokémon being more successful than their series will ever be.

>>720656619
based ps1 rayman poster

Japs know what it's actually copying. Only westoids don't know anything about video games.

>>720648436
You need help

>>720656707
>rapemeat pig person
I wonder if sam hyde knew that his quote was relevant outside of politics, that even in fucking video games people want you dead to playing bing bing wahoo.

>>720648187 (OP)
we all want to have sex with Ditto here

this is a sex with Ditto board

>>720650884
Because it will never be topped

Wait until this tranny hears about a game called Animal Crossing. And I love seeing Palsnoys and Fromsloppers seething.

Nintendo patenting that Palsnoy thing was the worst decision they could've made because literally nobody would remember that game if it were for the lawsuit. Player count is down like 97% since launch.

>>720648842
the opposite, only being excited for pokemon games not developed by gamefreak is the only rational position

>>720675482
And Builders copied Minecraft