Thread 721039626

Post your Silksong build and judge other's.

>>721039626 (OP)
Please don't pretend there's enough gear variety and character choice to warrant this thread

>>721039626 (OP)
>reaper
literally why
wanderer is better than it in every single way imaginable

>>721039803
Easy silk and two tool slots.

>>721039803
Reaper is a noob trap for people that didn't do the math to realize every hit is equal damage. They see slow and meaty and think it does more damage. Reaper is an IQ test.

t. Hunter enjoyer

>>721039626 (OP)
>reaper
literally why
hunter is better than it in every single way imaginable

>>721039803
The reach on wanderer is garbage, and you won't hit anything on a fast enemy

>>721039803
its fun. the uppercut is amazing for clashing all sorts of thrusts and forward dashing attacks, being able to get soul faster to compensate the loss of healing is nice
>>721039921
if youre just standing still and slashing which is what fucks reaper, you may as well just use wanderer and nothing else
the thing with crests like reaper and hunter is that you get a lot faster burst hitrate by something like dash attack -> pogo -> attack etc

Also, reaper has the only good antiair built into the base moveset: The abysmal upslash is a pain but the nail art is nice

>>721039803
reaper has the best pogo
that's literally the entire reason why I use it

>>721039921
I use hunter too. The combo meter is too good to pass up on and the diagonal is good enough. The dash attack trajectory sucks but it’s whatever just can’t spam it.

>phoneposter
>photo of monitor
retard

reaper is the best

>>721040317
Wanderer pogo is strictly better and I'm a wanderer hater. Really the only bad pogo is beast crest.

>>721040336
I'm not good enough to avoid damage so always drop the combo.

>>721040417
i think reaper has a lot more reach horizontally iirc

>>721040336
>the diagonal is good enough
*literally the best pogo for combat
ftfy

>>721040519
I take some tries on most complex bosses so I do too but on attempts I win, I always keep it up so it’s worth it. For basic exploring it’s nice too, especially against flying enemies. I’m very liberal with trap usage against fliers though.

>>721040649
It’s good but I mean I see more people getting easier combos off with the others. I like the pogo for platforming and it helps with getting on the other side of opponents but I don’t think it’s THE best. It’s my favorite so I don’t mind, I can even combo it back and forth but the few times I messed with wanderer when I got it, I could pogo faster.

>>721039626 (OP)
I used almost the same build, but with Reserve Bind > Weavelight and Conchcutter and Sting Shard as my red tools.

Is there any reason not to use poison near mid act 1 to act 2? I don’t have much else and it just seems like the best blue slot.

>>721040981
nope
it's a nice damage boost to all of your tools

>>721040981
It's an absolutely amazing blue slot. The extra damage ticks are fucking nuts on high-count and slow, but repeatedly hitting tools.

>>721041061
>>721041343
So does it keep the same impact damage on tools on top of the poison tick? I’ve been using it with harpoon and tacks and it’s great on tacks but harpoon it’s just alright and I only keep it because harpoon is a good ranged item.

>>721039626 (OP)
this stupid pavement ape took a photo of his screen lmao

>>721039626 (OP)
Since nobody else has bothered, I might as well.
>>721040207
Longclaw+space yourself better.

>beat the real boss
>looking at stuff i missed
>theres 8 crests in the game
what in the god damn

No.

>>721039626 (OP)
I used Hunter the entire game.

>>721042006
nice harp fag

>>721042006
what does the harp actually do

>>721042331
I kept expecting there to be a secret you needed the harp for so I kept it on almost all of my playthrough too. Imagine all the extra shards I could have had banked at the end :(

>>721041638
>pavement ape
kek, I am stealing that one

>>721042527
It's just the symbol for the Wanderer's crest; it doesn't really mean anything. Crests change your basic sword swipes and they have a different number of slots for tools. Wanderer is fast but short ranged with a HK1-style pogo, and it has a chance to crit for 3x damage if you have enough silk to bind (i.e. when the harp appears on your HUD, behind the silk meter).

>>721042983
He was talking about this, anon.

>compass
waste of a slot. just learn how to read the map

Which is the worst crest/
The beast one?

What do dem dice do and why does everyone use it?

>>721043440
+Crit rate.

>Hunter
>Parry
>Long claw
>Speed shoes
>Bead magnet
>Compass
>Extra mask
>Silk regen
>Faster bind
>Rings for the special taunt
>Drill
Yep, its songing time

>>721043472
wow how do u get dem lil thangs

>>721039626 (OP)
>Builds
Are we seriously pretending this is a thing?

>>721043612
You go visit the gambler in Act 3.

>>721043440
The most noticeable thing they do is sometimes negate a hit when you take damage.

>>721044094
You can get them in act 1.

>>721039921
Reaper sucks if you can play without getting hit much but on a blind playthrough the extra silk is nice to have

no hotkey for tools on the keyboard and mouse sucks
gotta press up and f and i always waste my spell

>>721042527
>>721043215
Oh, my bad. It amplifies the harp's sound, so it immobilises bosses and enemies faster than the base needolin. Each boss has unique singing dialogue, and this tool makes it easier to stop them in their tracks and get them to sing. It's really just a filler tool for my spare yellow slot. I believe you also need it to attract the little grubs in that one room in the Blasted Steps so you can kill them for the Hunter's Journal.
>>721043304
Yellow slots are all dogshit anyway, might as well equip the compass to save myself the tedium of parsing my map.
>>721043440
Slight chance to randomly negate damage from a hit. IIRC the chance starts at 2% and increases in increments of 2% to a maximum of 10%, resetting each time the tool procs.
>>721043472
I don't think this is true.
>>721043612
Horizontal hallway Southwest of the bellway in the Blasted Steps. Just win at dice a couple of times or come back after Act 2 if it's too much of a bother.
>>721044094
Revisited him in Act 2 to find him dead. I reckon the flag for it is either reaching Act 2 or beating Lace 2.

>>721044224
You can do that with the Steam overlay I think

>>721039803
>Why aren't you cheesing the game with easymode crest??

>>721044313
>>721044210
Oh damn I don't think I wanna use it then. Not only cause it sounds like it sucks but also cause I like that the game has been very deterministic and I like that (except for the small flying enemies, fuck that shit)

>>721042006
>Longclaw
if I had that then sure

>>721044313
For clarification, the die's chance to proc increases by 2% each time you get hit without it triggering, to a max of 10%.
>>721044224
Write an AHK script so that tapping a key of your choice inputs "Up + Silk Skill". Or just get an LLM of your choice to write it for you.
>>721040253
>the thing with crests like reaper and hunter is that you get a lot faster burst hitrate by something like dash attack -> pogo -> attack etc
Wanderer's dash attack is a 2-hit combo thoughever, so the same thing applies. It's just the best charm for damage, unless you're a no-hit god with Hunter+barbed bracelet+flintslate.

>>721044705
I love it, its always pretty cool when you take a hit and dice bro saves your ass.

>>721042006
you get that way too late in the game.

>>721042006
>wanderer only has 1 tool
wow it's fuckgin worthless, you have 4 yellow slots which are the most useless trinkets.

>>721045102
It makes up for the potential DPS loss of having only 1 red tool by having a faster attack speed and a versatile pogo. I didn't use tools much before getting Wanderer anyway, so the benefits far outweighed the downsides for me.

>hunter and wanderer and reaper have marginally different slots and the basic heal
>beast has the worst slots and a wacky pogo, so only any better than wanderer in lifesteal mode
>witch has the best slots and a solid moveset but an awful heal
>architect has the basic slots again, but is really the cheese framework
>shaman is in the latestgame and spell synergy is very limited anyway
complaints about (lack of) cool charms are common, but the crests are all over the place as well
either they all needed to be weird and different, or all tailored towards certain playstyles, i wonder if anybody used beast while exploring or architect without pure tool spam

this game has way too many useless crest

>>721045102
yellows are the only good ones

>>721045102
its for balance reasons
wanderer is the fastest with the best moveset

>>721046019
Unironically a mod to frankenstein movesets and crest layouts (IE shaman crest with witch moveset and hunter bind) would be cool. Obviously reaper and beast bind are a bit busted this way. I imagine beast bind wanderer just straight up breaks the game.

>>721039626 (OP)
Wanderer crest
The compass (will be replaced by the dice for the godhome equivalent dlc)
The charm to run faster
The charm for longnail
The charm for double damage (for 15-25% damage increase)
The charm to fasten heals
The charm to extend silk reserves
The bomb tool

It's gaming time

>>721046349
Wait, there's a Sinner refight?
Or does it just get harder in Act 3?

>>721046464
It's Just a mod. https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/169

>>721046547
Ah, neat.

>Beast crest
Skill:
>Cross Stitch
Tools:
>Flea Brew
>Delver's Drill or whatever works for a given fight
>Compass
>Silkspeed Anklets
>Magnetite Dice
>Injection Band (vesticrest)
Bind, bind, and bind some more. It just sucks scrounging around for memory lockets to unlock a single blue slot.

Either mirror or quick sling, replacing flintslate with sting shard/pimpillo

does this game have a path of pain?

How do you unlock the 2nd hunter upgrade

>>721046349
>Black attacks on black background
>Swords are too fast to react and rotate in random directions making consistent dodging impossible
I wish modders would put just a little extra thought into these things and not overtune these things. This fight is so close to perfection.

>>721049876
all of eva's upgrades come from spending lockets to open crest slots

>>721039803
Reaper so I can do pogo
>but why not wanderer then?
because it has two red slot and I love using tools.

>>721050878
Damn that looks sick
I don't even have that crest or the middle silk skill. Just finished flea games and will scour the map for the missing 6%

>>721050878
I like the idea of Shaman, but I feel its really one-note. There's so few Charms that apply to Skills that you don't really have any choices to make. It's so weird.

>>721039803
I found reaper quite good on many A3 bosses. Long range enables many punishes. Wanderer is probably better but reaper is not bad.

>>721043304
>here bro just waste your own time in exchange for a completely useless yellow slot

>>721050878
Basically what I used to beat the game. Pale nails is strong AF.

>>721039803
because i want to beat the game, not risk bricking my save using architect or wanderer

>>721052528
How would Wanderer brick your save?
And as for Architect, it's the reason you get forced to default in many scenarios.

>>721050216
I’ve maxed out Hunter’s slots. What now?

>>721052750
You have a selection of other Crests, Anon.
It's total Lockets spent, not just individually on a Crest.

>>721052798
Aw. Ok I’ll just upgrade reaper.

>>721052669
>spent the last few weeks spamming why wanderer is the only worthwhile crest while calling the others trash
geez i wonder why

>>721051905
Yeah, but it's really cool to throw out an electrified Silk Spear and both skewer and fry whatever I impale on it.

My final build is long claw wanderer overdosing on flea brew. That helped me beat the true final boss

>>721050878
Why would you get quick attack recharge for shaman ?

>>721039921
Reaper farms soul on heal to let you chain heals. Every time your aura wears off, pop it again and get even more aura. This is fantastic with quick heal, mirror, rune rage, etc. You get 2x silk per hit and have such a large hitbox you can hit multiple enemies at once. Add longclaw and you can attack through walls. Dash attack has knockback AND sets you up for combos.

>>721055037
For times when I run out of silk and I still don't want to get close, so I can spam charge attacks until I regen my silk.

>>721044212
You can bind at full health just for aura farming. It lets you spam Rune Rage or Thread Storm.

this game really needs new game+

>>721040417
Reaper is the ONLY pogo wide enough to hit even while staying on a wall WITHOUT moving your hurtbox closer. You can 0 hit wall cling dair spam a LOT of bosses in the game. Cogwork Dancers simply cannot touch Reaper clinging to the top corner spamming dair. The giant disjointed hitbox extends out from the wall farther without needing to expose yourself. Reaper can fit on the wall behind The Unraveled and spam dair without getting hit. Many such cases.

>>721052379
Longclaw Reaper can hit through walls and boss hurtboxes you aren't supposed to be able to reach. It lets you parry advancing multihit attacks safely and best of all it can cheese with Bind. Bind any time you can afford to and it will pay for the next bind in bonus silk. Keep the happy hour aura going and you can spend entire bossfights spamming silks skills.

>>721042279
same built but I used Conchcutter and Cogwork Wheel instead

>>721039626 (OP)
I'm pretty sure Multibinder procs things like the mirror and the Witch Crest bind twice, in addition to healing one more mask then default, so this build is really fun to focus on binding close to the enemy to nuke them

>>721042006
I can put longclaw on another crest and have even better reach. Fucking anything just to not learn a 45 degree dive huh?

>>721042279
>Dice
Based
>Bitch skull
Cringe

>>721046019
Witch is weird, it suck for exploring because you never know when you'll have a proper chance to heal, but for bosses and gauntlets it is among the bests

Why is there content locked behind steel soul mode? I want to play the extra content but don't want to play steel soul mode

The real question: Flinstale or flea brew?

>>721056759
Flint brew

>>721056695
It's for people who play Steel Soul mode.

>but don't want to play steel soul mode
Too bad then.

>>721039626 (OP)
>Silksong fan doesnt know how to take a screenshot

>>721056759
Flintslate is fun.

>>721056695
there is?

>>721057215
A questline and a boss. I think there are a bunch of rooms you can only enter in steel soul mode only as well
>>721057048
Yeah I guess too bad, just wish I could play the extra content

>>721046019
I ran pure melee Architect, the only gripe I had is its pogo which makes it pretty suboptimal for aerial fights like Nyleth and the Coral Tower, but outside of that it's perfectly fine, I barely ever switched off of it once I got it

>>721056363
If it makes you fell better, I almost always had it left over when I finally got boss kill.

>>721049770
Nah. The closest is an optional platforming gauntlet if you go back to the GMS fight room in act 3 with silk soar.

so in order to get all endings in one save i need to do
>normal ending
>cursed ending
>silk and song wish to get to act 3
correct?

>>721056191
I used Hunter exclusively until Act 2 and it's my go-to 2 red slot crest. Wanderer's quick, non-stalling pogo is just better for combat and staying as close as possible to enemies, no matter how you try to spin it.

I sometimes swap the flint for hornets spike traps from HK1 to deal with annoying flyers when freeroaming but otherwise I like this setup

>>721039626 (OP)
why are we pretending you can only use one build like dark souls or other rpg games? I used literally every crest in my playthrough depending on the boss, area or what I was feeling like. All crests are mostly equally good (except beast, it's kind of ass).

I switch my tools a lot depending on the fight, usually for tacks
the charms are staples though, poison goes hard with architect, and the improved healing is great considering this crest doesn't have any spells to spend silk on
funnily enough the rosary magnet charm is better than the shard increase charm, because more rosaries = more shards from NPCs

>>721065940
people seethe when they find out that others cleared a game using a tactic that makes it easier... sometimes it's because they didn't think about that first

>>721065679
How useful is the belt for Beast Crest? Do you think it's really important to have it or is it more of a nice to have qol thing?

This is what I used for Lost Lace, generally used silk spear/thread storm instead of parry and poison/multibind instead of reserve bind. For red tools I sticked to plentiful spammy ones on top slot and big hitters on the bottom.

>>721066136
It's more of a bonus, helps you stick on flying enemies after gapclosing with pogo to get 1-2 more hits in. It'd probably replace it if I found anything more useful.

>>721039626 (OP)
Where do you get the second side slot?

>>721068228
Same place you got the first one, need to have used 9 or 10 memory lockets iirc

How do you get the flea under putrefied ducts?

>>721068126
>there's a huge ass sealed door
>you partially unseal it
>Radiance infects the zone
>you unseal the door completely
>there's a knight in chains posessed by Radiance
>at some point he stabs himself with radiance soda spraying everywhere and his jump attacks are replaced by radiance tumors throwing his body at you
>the ending is either you sealing Radiance in yourself or killing it directly
You don't need to read anything to get the gist of the story or what HK is.

>>721039803
I think reaper is better initially, but yeah, it falls off

This game is amazing but I feel the weight of the consequences of Act 3 are much higher than just outright having Hornet become the ruler

>>721039626 (OP)
I didnt beat the game
And thats okay

>>721065951
Conch cutter is absolutely busted

If I see pic related, you ARE gay and PATHETIC.
Imagine not being able to do basic navigation and logical spacial awareness without being told.

>>721069782
I'm tired, boss...

>>721069782
It's a yellow. It's competing with scuttlebrace and big needolin.

>>721069782
>he buys maps
>gay and PATHETIC
Takes one to know one.

>>721064071
That is correct.

>>721039626 (OP)
Kept with this most of the game, the trap with poison was so powerful against flyer mobs when exploring and easy hits against most bosses
If I got mad I swapped to cogfly though...

My Lost Lace loadout.

>>721069782
I agree. What a waste of a slot.

>>721046858
the fuck's the point in using beast if you have no need for its gimmick?

>>721069681
What's the yellow tool on the bottom? Is it some upgraded one? I don't think I have that.
Also honestly I don't think the Fractured Mask is worth using anymore when you have 8+ Masks, might as well just grab Longclaw.

>witch bind fails to heal you if the enemy dies before a certain threshold
Whyyyyy

I just realised I have never used the charge attack
How good are they generally?

>>721070926
Very good damage if you charge them during downtime, exact damage depends on the Crest but they are all about as much as 3-5 normal attacks.
They do NOT generate any Silk though, so if you aren't comfortable with a fight and need the extra healing it might be better to forego them for some normal attacks even if they will deal less damage.

>>721069681
this is probably the strongest build in the game
wanderer doe's about 71 dps compared to hunter/architect/beast 50 and reaper/witchshaman 42
and poison cogflys add about 14 with just 1 out

>>721070926
Depends on the crest, Reaper and Beast are pretty bad, mostly useful as a first hit, but Architect one is great

Uuuuhhhh is this color steel soul-exclusive?

My tried and true 100% steel soul build.

>enter room
>put traps (can be the spiky ones too)
>boss loses half it's life and gets dizzy or start screaming
>setup again and keep on shooting with the fucking railgun

Who needs silk skills?

>>721071176
Yes.

>>721070638
https://hollowknightsilksong.wiki.fextralife.com/Shell+Satchel
>only in steel soul
y u do dis

>>721071229
wtf y ur voltvessels look different

>>721071229
What's that yellow tool in the rightmost slot?

They should have removed wanderer from the game
It feels too much like a "default"

>>721050216
>all of eva's upgrades come from spending lockets to open crest slots
FUCK
I've been autistically saving them because I don't want to get a new crest and not be able to immediately unlock it.
I never would have guessed that was how it works.

>>721071521
>>721071307

>>721071521
You can pick between the spear and the bolas.
>>721071572
Shell Satchel
Steel soul only tool.

>>721050216
Slots have nothing to do with it. It's Silk Skills (both movement and combat ones), Crests, Silk Hearts, and Spools.

>>721039803
>>721039921
I used wanderer up until about halfway through act 2 before switching to reaper. The reality of things is that 90% of the time you can't just whack an enemy multiple times in a row since you either have to move away to avoid an attack or they're a flying enemy, as nine out of every six enemies in Silksong are. If you're only hitting once every few seconds anyway then having more attack speed from wanderer or less attack speed from reaper literally doesn't matter at all. Wanderer's shorter attack range also makes fighting flying enemies significantly more of a pain in the ass than it already is.

Reaper
>b-but r*ddit told me it's le noobtrap and bad
say that again while you're getting fucked with this colossal hornet's needle cock reaper's bind also allows me to pure nails all over you again and again until your faces turn into a large white concrete. and on top of 9+ masks of effective hp (great stamina)

>Be in late Act 2
>Go back to Act 1 to finish a wish
>Enemies take as many hits to die as 15 hours of gameplay before

There is no progression in this game. The crest system sucks, exploration isnt rewarded and the player doesnt get stronger outside of tool usage.

This game is a massive flop

>>721069782
checkmate, fag. I don't buy maps (waste of money). try navigating with pins and markers like a real gamer

>>721072252
Upgrade your nail maybe.

>>721072453
>he uses pins
ngmi

Wanderer's is just too good to pass up

>>721039921
I like Reaper because it has the most mobile playstyle. Long reach and easy pogo with, importantly, a WIDE hitbox makes it way easier to fly around and use Hornet's mobility, and that feels really good. I'd rather have fun flitting around like a speedy nit that mash the attack button like a baboon.

>he actually opens the map
you didn't beat the game

>>721072746
No shit, Wanderer's Crest is literally Silksong's easy mode.

>>721039626 (OP)
I’m very confused, you’re playing on PC but you took a picture of your monitor instead of a screenshot?

>>721072795
>x is silksongs easy mode
It's all preference. I would've used hunter's all game if i played on keyboard or d-pad. Architects is still the strongest and easiest to beat bosses with, and most people find Beast the best. Wanderer just has amazing dps and i love parrying bosses.

>>721072610
LMAO IM RETARDED I HAVE MISSED THIS COMPLETELY I DIDNT REALIZE THERE WAS AN UPPER AREA TO BELLHART I HAVE BEEN PLAYING THE ENTIRE GAME ON ULTRA HARD MODE

>>721072912
I did this too anon after cogwork dancers took so many damn hits I finally came here and said wtf and realized I missed the pinmaster.

>>721072898
>Wanderer just has amazing dps
>parrying bosses
Yes, because again: that crest is Silksong's easy mode.

i think i fucked up boys. do i need to kill lace again if i got 100% after beating her the first time? or can i trigger an ending in an easier way

>>721073005
lol most people can't parry for shit

>>721073013
Nope. Have fun! You should be using up all your plasmium charges after phase 1 ends.

Guys, I think I'm being filtered. I'm stuck on the last melody in act 2.
I just can't beat this fucking gauntlet room it doesn't seem to stop. I got as far as spawning TWO (2) of the big hammer guy introduced in that very same gauntlet

I'm addicted to the Multibinder. Healing 4 masks is such an amazing quality of life upgrade, but I'm thinking I should try some other stuff.

If I just got the hookshot, how close am I to getting Longclaw?

>>721073061
Indeed. Which is why they use Wanderer's Crest so they can just mash attack and parry most things.
>>721073085
Either do some more side quests, go explore the world or start using tools (poisoned tacks).

>>721039921
>Reaper is a noob trap for people that didn't do the math to realize every hit is equal damage
extra knockback, extra range, extra silk. It's the defensive option. If I need dps then i just summon 7 bugs with poison to kill a guy really quickly on the final phase of the fight.

>>721072912
Anon I... Not only did you miss the first free upgrade, you're probably not aware there's two more upgrades in the Citadel...

>>721072750
>dash attack feels good
>pogo feels good
>more silks
>easy to space
this is bad somehow?

I gotta be honest I’m about to fight Lace for a second time and I’ve only used Reaper Crest, poison, the spear, and the starter landmine tool. I think I’m bad at exploring.

>>721073079
>Using Plasmium
Are there no drawbacks? It seemed very suspicious

>>721040417
Beast has a decent pogo. Its not bad. Its easy to chain hits but the timing and distance is all off

There are 2 Venticrests, not 3? When/how do you get the second one? I heard that it's tied to spending memory lockets.

>>721073245
no, just better lifeblood. unless you're playing with poison charm(cheating), its just free hp

Alright, cursed ending on steel soul achieved. Time to get this parasite out of my shell and enter act 3.
So the rebirth the witch was talking about was 100% talking about GMS searching and finding a new half-weaver host, right?

>>721073093
You need double jump and then you can go get long claw immediately but it’s in an optional area locked behind a quest.

>>721072991
Yeah cogwork dancers were insane hp sponges without a single upgrade
>>721073168
I see that now yeah. Ive played through 2 entire acts with the base needle damage. No wonder I was getting pissed off

>>721073079
Aw shit

>>721073323
What’s the point of getting that ending on steel soul?

>>721073174
Erm, akshually you didn't beat the game.

>>721039626 (OP)
LOST MY COCOON FOR THE FIRST TIME 40 HOURS IN WITH 700 ROSARY BEADS

I don't even know the boss moveset and I did this on my 3rd restart. I just dash into it and attack, and then I panic altf4 because I wanted to replay it. yes turns out that it has 2nd phase but it only adds 1 new move and hp is only like less than half

>>721039803
Wanderer is basically the knight, which is boring. The extra knockback on enemies is also really satisfying, and with normal enemies being much harder than in HK it's useful.

>>721073085
>Guys, I think I'm being filtered. I'm stuck on the last melody in act 2.
i got to the final wave on my 2nd try and said fuck it and explored the rest map. I found the easiest way to beat this was to get the beetle tool and the poison charm. Basically to play til wave 10, summon as many beetles as you can then it should kill one of the big guys before they kill you. After that you just need to 1v1 the other big guy which isn't that hard. When it comes to boss fights, you basically only bother with tools at the very end to 'skip' the hardest phase.

>>721057096
>Flintslate
how do i get it?

I'm too retarded to use the beast crest sprint attack however
Every time I crash into the enemy and take 2 damage.

>>721044313
I found him dead and haven't fought Lace 2 yet.

>>721073151
I think I've done them all. I've even done the meat escort.
I'm not really supposed to do Mt Fay before this am I?

I know I suck at games, but the wall has hit so hard and so suddenly I'm honestly confused.

>>721039626 (OP)
Wait wtf, what's with those two on the side? Please don't tell me I've suffered through no compass on my Witch in vain.

>>721073397
I'm just checking off all the items on my "I wonder what happens when..." list while trying to get the 'finish the game with 100% on steel soul' achievement.
After this I'm going to speedrun my way into act 3 and see what the differences are as opposed to 100%ing act 2 first.
There's one thing I know for sure that's only obtainable in act 3 if you skip buying the quill from Shakra and that's Trobbio's purple quill.
You can already get his red quill in act 2 if you do the same thing.

>>721073565
needolin door in starting area

>>721071176
are you just reloading a save before you die or are you doing it for real?

>>721073526
Alright you autists spoilering the most basic shit is starting to annoy me, nobody gives a fuck. Anyway yes you should do Mt Fay right after you get the clawshot.

>>721046349
The fast running charm sounds great, but it costs silk. Wouldn't you run out constantly? I'm not game to try it during forays into dangerous new areas.

When the hell do you get a second silk heart?

>>721073646
I may hate myself, but I am not a masochist.
Using Fragile Mask and saving and quitting when it breaks doesn't punish you and is therefore permitted by the developers in my eyes.

>>721073447
>beetle tool
I foolishly used all my ore and have not discovered any more despite doing a bunch of extra bosses and scouring Bilewater and Sinner's Road twice just in case I missed something. For now it looks like there are 2 things that cost ore I know about but can't afford.
I used my last simple key on the rosary gun and so have STILL not unlocked the door at Wormways

>>721058975
Melee Architect feels so fucking good to use with how long and snappy its reach is. I got it early enough into Act 2 and used it to clear the rest of the Act 2 pretty smoothly.
I love every part of it's moveset including the pogo since once you get the timing down to use it more like an offset attack with its charge time. Plus it really shreds fat fucks since the only requirement for it to land and bounce is that they're not directly under you (which should've a become habit if you were using Hunter for Act 1 anyway).
The persisting hurt frames on it makes unintentional parrying a lot more common, including deflecting certain types of projectiles, to the point where I'd call it the best defensive crest.

The fact that it has the Tool-enabling ability in addition to that base moveset is kinda nuts, even though I've never actually had to use it thus far.

>>721073429
>needles disappearing at 0:57
OK cheater.

>>721073713
>When the hell do you get a second silk heart?
Act 2. Then end of act 2.

>>721057096
>doing that fight alone
its like anons hate making bug friends

>>721069401
>You don't need to read anything to get the gist of the story
By that I assume you mean "read anything online"
For some reason people seem to forget the moth that gives you dreamnail (and is therefore mandatory to speak to in order to do the dreamers to unlock the egg) straight up spells out Radiance and what's going on with it.

>>721073803
The needles still get shot, I just go throug it because of constant contact dmg with the boss body lmao.

>>721069782
This is the white vs brown test
Whites use the compass, browns despise it

>>721073713
It drains slower than you think, and the timer for it draining the silk basically resets every time you stop and start, which happens a lot in room transitions.

The real reason you don't use it is because it gets de-equipped automatically when racing the sprintmaster, so you can't even get yourself a speed advantage to make up for being shit at platforming.

>>721069782
games are about having fun, not to exert effort
I apply effort to my real life, and relax on games

HOW DO I GET THE FLEA IN BILEWATER
i have looped around him 4 times not and this zone is not fun to traverse. Please any hint would be helpful.
Hes in between the top bench and where the boss fight happened

>>721072912
you reminded me of my first playthrough of Baldurs Gate I
I never realized you could pause the game with the spacebar, I played it entirely in real time

>>721074215
i got that one on my own so i just want to point my finger & laugh at you for that

>>721073882
True, but I meant as in specifically playing Grug mode.
>LIGHT BAD
>BIG BUG HOLD LIGHT NO MORE
>GET STRONG AND HOLD LIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF BUGKIND
The story is pretty basic not a bad thing, I bet there's an ancient greek drama with similar themes.

>>721073085
if you complete Shakra's questline she will help you the entire fight after the first wave

>>721074215
entrance is in the vaults. there's your hint for the day

>>721073151
Mashing attack won't do much good against anything in late act 2 and 3

>>721072912
>exploration isnt rewarded
>I DIDNT REALIZE THERE WAS AN UPPER AREA TO BELLHART
lol

>>721039803
wander is dogshit, hunter is the best

>>721073780
Same. I'm knee-deep in act 2 and the Wormways are still a mystery to me. What the hell is behind that simple door? How long will I have to wait to find out?

>>721073574
if you are doing this without mods, its actually pretty impressive to be that skilled
do you play a ton? what's the key?

>>721073807
Is it missable?

>>721073713
It only costs Silk after you run for X seconds, so if you are dashing/running around in combat you will almost always stop often enough that it never costs anything.
It really only noticeably drains your Silk when you are running through areas without stopping, at which point you don't really need the Silk anyways

>>721073881
I've met literally everyone, even freed the Green Prince before making it there. Nobody came to help. Nobody came to help for Moorwing either.

>>721073881
It's like zero hints anyone will help you. In the ant tunnels Shakra just appears with no quests, for the Bat Garmond is sleeping nearby. I have explored the entire castle bar cogwork and have met neither.

>>721073429
>>721073803
Yeah okay looks like it's very easy to do hitless. Just like every boss it has like 3 moves and 1 useless spectacle move. And the fights never requires you to use any of the tools. Nice roguelike. git gut spouting retards.

>>721074752
One is optional. Not permanently missable though.

>>721074858
>>721074831
She's been alongside you the entire way, and she only asks for you to help her complete her wish ;)

>>721074931
now show lost lace

Lava Savage Beastfly wasn't even that difficult, it was just the combination of everything bad and not fun you can put together for a boss fight. I wonder if Cherry had a challenge on who can design the most unpleasant boss fight and this is what they came up with.

>>721074698
I've spent 3 simple keys already iirc.
I chose to go to the deep docks door first, and then every new key since has had something new come up before I got around to going back.

>>721074708
I am NOT good at video games. What I am good at is bashing my head against something until it breaks.
It took me 63 hours on a casual playthrough to 100% the game; lace 2 took me at least a hundred tries.

What helps is getting enough sleep so your brain can consolidate all that muscle memory.
Aside from that I recommend 100%ing as much as you're able before tackling harder challenges.

And if you want to attempt steel soul: look up BlueSR's speedrun route and always save and exit to menu when you reach two masks up until you get the Fragile Mask.
It took me 20 hours to finish a 3 hour steel soul speedrun. I think I have around a hundred hours in the game at this point?
>>721074752
Nothing in the game is missable except for two optional Hunter's Journal entries.
They are the two duels between Shakra and Zazabart: the former can be fought right to Bellhart after doing her wish, the latter can be fought in the area to the right of Songclave.

>>721075038
Sorry I need to hit invisible walls for 10 hours before that because it's what people call exploration. Getting into the slabs was exactly like that too.

>>721074831
>>721074858
I don't know how you get Garmond to show up. But I got Shakra by buying all her maps and doing a quest for her.

>>721074752
The only "collectible" thing that's missable are the Shakra and Gamond Hunter's Log entries and those two don't count for Hunter's Memento anyways.
You can rush through the game and still pick up absolutely everything else at the end of Act 3, though you will obviously miss out on a lot of lore with all the obscure as fuck Souls-esque NPC quests and changing dialogue.

>>721075037
How does she know her teacher isn't in the Citadel?

>>721075079
Is there a second beastfly fight and is it worse? Just got done with first and it was a bit of a pain (the adds that spawn)

Architect > all others

Silk is for healing and harpooning.

>>721075152
People still aren't really sure what causes Garmond to offer to duel you on the roof.
Running theory seems to be you need to talk to him a bunch in the various locations he appears on and then run into him on the roof BEFORE he actually settles in Songclave.

>>721075096
I would disagree that you are not good at videogames, and if I might suggest, give yourself some credit, being your own supporter changes lives

>>721075249
Yes, it's over lava and the beastfly can destroy the platforms lmao.
Have fun. I found it less upsetting than beastfly 1

>>721075404
The flying lava spewing skeleton bug adds during the lava beastfly fight are unironically the worst enemy in the entire game in my opinion.
I hate those little shits with a passion.

>>721075340
Thanks, but it's already too late for me.
I'm sure things will be better in my next life.

>>721039803
I just enjoy how it pogos and how it fucks with flying mobs, but I unlocked witch recently and I'm falling in love with how it works

>>721075079
If they had that challenge I'm going to say they failed in their assignment because there's no savage beastfly duo

>>721075404
Beastfly 1 was only ever a problem for me when going there early. Silkstorm makes it trivial.

>tools trivialize bosses
>wanderer is easy mode
so which is it?
since wanderer, you know, only has 1 tool slot

>>721073748
i know i'm not good enough for a legit steel soul run but maybe that way I might attempt it...

>>721075079
>>721075562
When will you people learn that there is no point in discussing what is challenging and what isn't because it's all relative to your own skill. Plenty of people will find this game challenging, some too challenging even. And some not so much.

>>721075562
Two Savage Beastflies wouldn't be that bad if they don't summon adds. It's really the adds moving around unpredictably as fuck and in the lava fight case blocking the floor with their lava diarrhea that are the obnoxious part.

>>721075643
If you played the game, you didn't beat the game.

>>721075249

It's worse, but by the time you'll challenge it you'll have more movement skills and tools to ease it. It features

>All the problems inherent to Savage Beastfly (summoning adds), but this time with lava floor that has breakable floor
>Summons flying adds that fire 2 mask projectiles that leave a pool of lava which also deals 2 mask upon contact
>Will summon 2x flying adds in the later stages

It's not as cancerous as it sounds because of all the tools you'll have to deal with him, but it's still just a dogshit boss from design perspective

>>721075668
Duo Savage Beastfly with adds and the floor is lava and the walls are thorns.

>>721075474
in the words of my grandmother:
"its only late after you are dead"

>>721075643
>>tools trivialize bosses
Requires experimentation and consideration
>>wanderer is easy mode
Requires no thought just mash attack lol

>>721075668
>if they don't summon adds
You know they absolutely would summon adds

>>721075703
I found that the thing that helps most with 1, thread storm, is not as good an option for 2
silk spear works way better for it since you're not opening yourself up for one of their magma balls as much, and a single silkspear can still kill 2 of the adds

>>721075762
>experimentation
Lol. Lmao even. Boss on the ground - tacks, flying boss - boomerang/traps. Cogflies if 2 tool spots.

>>721075287
But the Witch heal feels so damn rewarding, and it's such a pretty moveset.

>>721075465
>oh you dodged my two-damage projectile that's just slow enough to be extra annoying?
>well now it's gonna block one of the few tiles you can stand on for a while lol
bloody 'ate 'em

Just got to Bone Bottom does Hornet only use the Needle

>>721075882

I found thread storm as useful as in the first boss, mostly because when he summons 2x adds they'll come towards middle of the arena and you can instakill them before they even have time to attack. Other than that I used poisoned Sting Shard which was very useful for damaging both the boss and sniping solo adds.

>>721075948
No, she also floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.

>>721075919
conchcutter on big bosses or arena fights is pretty strong
utterly trivializes the high halls gank

>>721076023
drill on that fucking frog that i hate also works wonders

>>721039803
you can uppercut slash in a dash, than at the top forward slash into a downward slash before hitting the ground, reaper is fast movement Sekiro style

>>721073085
do shakra's quest and do mount fay, you just have to live with the cold

Maggot water is filtering me hard. Why do they get to jump out and just push me in for fuck's sake

>>721075703
The Magma Bell turns all fire damage into 1 mask. It even reduces direct melee hits from enemies with fire components, it felt incredibly stupid when Last Judgement entered her second phase and her burning flail did half the damage it did at first.

>>721076017
>floats
Spoilers anon WTF!!! Mods!!!!!

>>721076164
there's a charm that makes you immune to maggot water
It's nowhere close to where you are

>>721076319
I hate when games give you solutions to problems only after you had to solve them through brute force.

I hear NPC speaking but the map itself seems like a dead end, I guess it's part of some another area?

>>721075762
show me a webm of you spamming attack to parry bosses

>>721076387
well there's 2 ways to get it
1 involves going the completely other direction, making a trek around half the world, finding yet ANOTHER place with maggot water and finding the charm there

the second is to beat the final boss of the place you're stuck in, at which point you find it after 5 minutes of exploration, which seems to be the leading cause of suicide and/or homicide among silksong players

>>721076528
What am I, your slave? Nah.

>>721076458
You can't do anything from where you are at, yeah.
You can get to that location from Greymoor

>>721073565
>not using mods
low IQ

>>721076458
It's another area, yeah.
You need double jump and you get in through Greymoor

>>721076538
It's very unlikely you encounter Bilewater after you gain the Feydown Cloak.
And your second solution is literally what I'm complaining about.

>>721076648
You can do it without double jump, though it does make it a lot easier. All you really need is Clawline.

>>721076648
ffs am I expected to go back and scour the whole map after every movement upgrade?

>>721076387
I think it's a matter of how it's done. Ghosting a MGS game to get the optical camo you just proved you don't need feels lame, but dealing with half on an area's bullshit to get to the trinket that lets you negate the last half of the area's bullshit can feel great.

Question about Steelsoul, does the game count a death if you die during any of the dream fights? Like Khann or the Green Prince.

>>721076767
>dealing with half on an area's bullshit to get to the trinket that lets you negate the last half of the area's bullshit can feel great.
I agree. But that literally never happens in Silksong.

>>721076648

I thought I had already explored every nook and cranny of Greymoor, from there do you access that place?

>>721076806
No. The Memory areas behave exactly like HK's Dream fights. You can die in there without losing your run and all the consumables/currency you use or lose inside of them are returned when you leave.

>>721069782
what are you even using in its place? all yellow charms are shit, might as well equip compass to save me some time

>>721076884
It's a ceiling you can jump up into in the top left corner of a room. It's very hard to see.

>>721076387
>after you had to solve them
You poor fool. There are 3 maggot water areas, Sinner's Road, Bilewater (which is absolute hell), and Putrid Ducts, you get the charm early in Putrid Ducts. I'm pretty sure the second and much, much, much worse half of Bilewater can first be reached when you have the double jump, and Putrid Ducts can either be entered from the citadel or after clearing Bilewater. So since there's a 0% chance anyone will willingly return to Bilewater after trudging through the first half of it, there's actually a very good chance you get the charm first, I know I did. The area boss of Sinner's Road is also locked behind double jump, and tosses maggots at you.

>>721076703
you don't need the feydown cloak to reach putrified ducts
and technically upper bilewater is an act 3 area

>>721076884
map spoilers

Took me 45 hours but I finally did it, I beat the game as a boomer with slow reflexes.

>>721076968
>he doesn't have sunk cost fallacy over wasting a craft metal on the cool looking but utterly useless backwards running animation

I like standing still in safe spots spamming attack. just killed the Judge after finishing the Phantom route first, wanted to do both ways. Am I supposed to find nothing interesting in Bilewater when I access it from Sinner's road? I found Shakra and a bench, but no bosses or nothing. I can't reach the high part in the middle.

>>721077185
Forgot to ask, what should I do next? Someone told me to go speak with the snail priest at the First Shrine.
How many other endings are there?

>>721039626 (OP)
So, what's the difference between the 1st and 2nd hunter upgrades?

>>721073484
>Bugs
>navels

I swear to god, most coomer artists are fucking braindead.

>>721077245
The high part is only reachable through a secret door in the Vaults, it's required to get the Witch crest. If you didn't fight the frog boss you're also still missing half of Bilewater, but don't think it can be reached without double jump.

>>721077492
2nd lets you go even further beyond

>>721077235
I literally always have it equipped and never use it. It's a tool to rival the power of the compass.

>>721076017
fly like an eagle, walk in the park

What was the point of white ward's boss? No reward?

>>721077816
Silk Heart.

>>721077256
There's 4 endings + a meme one.
You might wanna do the twisted bud ending (2nd ending) since I think after you do the 3rd ending you get locked out of it.
But if you don't care about that 2nd ending then I think the requirement to trigger the mission that leads to the 3rd ending is to do all othe wish board requests and also rescue a lot of fleas so that those guys move to their final location.

>>721077816
What do you mean no reward, that's what gets you the 3rd Silk Heart

>>721076763
You're supposed to notice weird shit as you go and use your map markers.

>>721076164
the secret is becoming one with the maggots
become the maggot lord
a secret maggot crest would be sick

>>721077509
they seem pretty smart to me with their thousands of patreon bucks they extract from drooling chicken choking dopes

>>721077839
>>721077857
Oh. I never really understood what those did.

>>721077962
+1 to your minimum Silk capacity.

>>721076458
where was this again, I forget

>See people saying the final boss' last phase is random and hard
>Get there and find it's incredibly straight forward and not random at all
What's wrong with people?

>can't display the little hornet statue you get in your home or the architect's pristine core
Come on

>>721077962
You know how when you are out of Silk you slowly replenish some over time without hitting anything?
Silk Hearts are how many of those bars you regenerate.

>>721039803
2 contact damage bad
stay further away good

>>721077796
it's fly like an eagle, soar through the skies
beeee FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

people glaze over cogwork dancers fight so much while it's just another sisters of battle
the presentation is decent i would give it that

>>721078049
I can kinda understand because whether lace decides to jump or just not pretty much decides if you will be hit or not.
And the worst offender is when she does the void puddles that spawn tentacles on top of the saws. You want to jump over it and you get hit because you really cant see this shit.

I know i know, stand between saws to avoid the dmg. Except the hitbox is tight as fuck, i always jump in place but if i see lace coming i have to jump away.

>>721078049
People will come up with anything to convince themselves they aren't bad at the game

>>721076763
You don't? That's my first instinct even back when I got the dash as my first.

>>721078134
And people glaze over mantis, its justified and good fights should be commended.

>>721077905
I'd still have had 20+ markers all over the map by the time I got the double jump. I mean it's cool that there's so many secrets don't get me wrong, but it can be pretty overwhelming in such a big map

>>721078134
yes, it's not hard, but very pretty to look at
I hope we get a harder version with the green mantis guy for the fag threesome fight

Apparently the architect crest with the tool that speeds up your charge speed is really powerful?

>>721078049
There are some overlaps that feel very unfair and all but guarantee you get hit unless you have Cross Stitch equipped and available.
They don't happen often enough to really kill you and don't pose too much of a problem (at least not until they have a one hit insta death mode like HK had), but they do exist and they do make you feel like you got absolutely fucked.

>sit down
>realize my ego is too big to give up
>do it in 20minutes
Soul tyrant took me fucking 3 hours
Man do i love this fucking fight, 2minutes of no breathing. Made me realize nothing in silksong really compares to grimm.
Time for Radiance

>>721078059
Stop being sentimental and break it for shards already

>>721040417
wanderer is great, after i grabbed longclaw, all the issues i had with this crest was gone, its pretty much hk, but better

>>721078291
I'm fine with backtracking but blind backtracking without any clear point to return to, only the goal to find spots where the new upgrade does its thing, sucks. (I shot myself in the foot by not using Shakra's markers)

feel like it would have been good to replay HK before SS to be reminded of this sort of thing

Just got killed by Last Judge a few times and after going back to the boss multiple times I agree with the complaints. There's no reason to make the runbacks so tedious especially when the first tries you're going to be a punching bag until you see Last Judge's attacks, which of course deal double damage.

>>721078464
I never thought NKG was very difficult. All her attacks are completely isolated from one another, she has no variance to her moveset at all. As long as you take it slow and just dodge you will kill her easily

>>721078627
magma bell reduces his damage, hope it helps

i just managed to beat lost lace, took me 3 hours until i realized it was fucking shit, i changed from reaper to wanderer and changed my amulets to druids eyes, injector band, multi binder, and lucky dice and it was gg, pretty op if you play super agressive, do this, you will beat her pretty fast.

>>721077846
Thanks for the explanation, this makes things easier.

hunter is the only usable crest because it's the only one that lets you dash cancel the divekick

>already beat the game
>never found the Whiteward key
where was that?

>>721078643
>She

>>721078643
>her
Agree though the hardest part for me was finding a consistent way to dodge everything with 0 reliance on reaction time.

>>721078726
you will beat him pretty fast*

>>721078608
oh, this shitty place

I'm at 91% completion and have what I assume to be the final main quest for the true ending. I think I'm just gonna look up a guide for the final 9% because going around whacking every wall in the game to find everything myself just takes the fun out of it for me. Even finding the real entrance to Putrified Ducts and the hidden wall to Nyleth was way too obtuse for my liking, and I really don't wanna subject myself to more of it.

It kinda sucks because I really don't wanna feel like this.

>>721078793

Yeah, I had visited it previously only once, and that was after the Last Judge's fight. I was desperate for a bench and much, much later into the game I started to eliminate unfinished map areas.

>>721078771
Right next to where the songclave shopkeeper is

After several weeks of playing I went back to see how a streamer I like found the game, and apparently he found the pogo attack hard to execute on controller because it requires 3 buttons to execute.
I'm glad I play on keyboard.

>>721078771
do you mean the key into whiteward or the key deeper into whiteward

>>721078929
on controller it's just down+attack, your streamer is as shit at games as one would assume

>>721078749
hunter's the only worthwhile crest because it's the only one to give you a distinct, functional movement option

>>721078939
I never found the key to the ornate lock in Whiteward, I'm in Act 3, can I still do this? Also, where is it.

Is there a reason you would want to do deliveries more than once? Do these regions get mega upgraded if I make like 10 deliveries?

>>721079043
you're always pressing a direction key in the air
yea, he's no much of a platformer guy

>>721079207
the key is hidden inside the whiteward

>>721079269
it's just a way to make money afaik

>>721078929
>>721079043
Are people's brains broken or something?
>Pogo moves forward at a sharp angle
>Input is just down + attack
>...except people somehow think that they need to... what, aim the pogo? Input a diagonal to make it work right? Even without the context of pogoing from Hollow Knight, its easy enough to notice that the pogo moves you forward, and you "aim" it by facing the right direction. This leap of "it goes diagonal so i need to press diagonal" is utterly nonsensical to me.

>life blood researcher dude just ODs and kills himself
Huh

>>721078372
Yes because the charge attack damage on it is nuts.
https://youtu.be/qIPUfl-rEZA?t=2m8s

>>721079297
this is a thought you only have it you're shit at games

>>721079546
what is up with lifeblood anyway, is it a infection like radiance infection?

>>721079421
you're completely missing the point
old pogo was directly downward, it didn't matter which way you were facing
the new pogo (hunter crest) depends on where you're facing
so you also need to pick the direction in which you want to pogo
if you don't always press the direction in which you want to pogo you're liable to go the wrong way

>>721079678
Probably.

>their souls are ours
>our hate is forever
Cold as fuck ngl

>>721079373
okay, that's cool. I upgraded Bellhart and now I can't deliver to Bottom anymore; was worried I missed out on evolving the town further

>>721079797
boggers are racist spearchuckers

>>721079797
>>721079870
It was a clean place before the citadel started dumping waste there
Boggers are justified in their hate

>>721079678
next game is mister mushroom fighting lifeblood

>play needolin
>silk from above forces enemies to sing
am I gonna sunderstand this later in the game?

>>721079678
Pretty much, yes. And it is not benevolent in the slightest.
PK banned it from his lands because it wouldn't play nice, unlike other Higher Beings such as Unn.

>>721079746
but that's just basic fucking air control, and a charm point of the hunter crest pogo 'cause there's a cooldown window that you need to adjust yourself to before you can seamlessly change the direction of successive divekicks

>>721078627
You can sprint through the whole runback in ~20 seconds and 0-1 damage once you time it right and figure out what's skippable. Wear the magma bell and Last Judge will only deal 1 mask of damage in her second phase. The only runbacks that genuinely offended me was Bilewater, and that gets a little better once you look up the hidden bench.

>>721039626 (OP)
>lets make a white boss on white arena so you cannot see him
>lets make a boss which parry 90% of your attacks
>also lets make him super aggressive and fast
>lets make long unskippable elevator animation just to piss player off
I hate this game with each new hour. At least I hope this is the final boss. I wasn't able to beat flying green faggot in bilewater so I went in here.

>>721080114
you are if you explore well enough

>>721078627
>>721080440
The Last Judge runback is literally faster than waiting for a DS3 or Bloodborne loading screen.

>>721080514
lol good luck on lost lace (if you wanna get to act 3)

>>721079678
Hornet herself has a line where she makes that comparison. Looks we have our next antagonist boys. Lace vs Lifeblood

>>721080514
shes piss easy desu, just equip wanderer and pogo her ass, stuff like that, you willl kill her pretty fast and you wont even notice

>>721079169
What does this mean exactly

>>721080514
Uuuhh bro, your poisoned tacks?

>>721080582
I have no idea what act 3 is. I think I opened whole map. Still don't know what are crests people are talking about here (Shaman, Architect, whatever) and where to get them. Also I don't have a lot of talismans, like poisoning talisman (?) and something that change regular health icons to blue ones or to spiky ones.

>>721080514
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>721080673
>poisoned tacks
What is this?

>>721080667
it means the beast crest pogo is SHIT

>>721080535
you don't run a risk of losing 1/3th of your health to a single mistake on a DS3 loading screen

>>721076703
I reached and explored bilewater a bit in act 1. I didn't beat groal until after I'd done almost everything else in act 2, including getting the maggot charm.

>>721039921
>muh DPS
Brother it's a singleplayer game. If anything I'm actually glad to be doing less damage sometimes because a lot of bosses are fun as hell to fight and I don't want to speedrun killing them.

>>721080860
By the time you get through the free as fuck first phase you will already be fully healed from all the Silk you get even if you started with 1 Mask.

Can you even get reward for finding flying dogs outside of first 5? I found like 20 of them, but three guys in Greymoore say nothing to me.

>>721080791
Shellwood

>>721039626 (OP)
My build?
...I'm a mechanic.

>>721080849
Skill issue. It's a slightly shorter harpoon

>>721080975
well.. yes, if you find it enough you will unlock act 3, its one of the requirements

>>721080984
Shellwood what? I cleared that area 25 hours ago.

>>721080791
You get poison from one tool and tacks are another tool. Use them together and...

>>721081048
And did ya do the quest from the weird tentacle lady?

I feel like I explored everywhere except for the slabs, but I have no idea how to go there. I know there's some enemies that try to send you there, but I killed the only one of those I've seen.

God I love Lace's cute mesugaki voice.

>>721080791
Have you done the shellwood fruit-thing quest? You get a blue tool that passively gives poison to all your red tools.
You get tacks in Sinner roads as reward for a quest as well.
Combine those 2 and Lace practically kills herself

>>721039626 (OP)
>other's
Why are silksong players all midwits?

>>721039626 (OP)
>build
lol

gamers use the word build like they're not using a cookie cutter choice made by the devs

>look at my McFlurry build, I went with oreo

>>721073412
>700
That's like 3 farming laps on cogwork dancers hallway.

>>721081174
https://streamable.com/tqs2l7

>>721081098
You'll miss out on the cool prison break but you can just go there from the Citadel.

>>721073412
If you're still in Act 2, you can easily farm a couple thousand an hour from Grand Bellway bench.

God, I heckin’ love 2 damage contact damage! Thank you lost lace for telefragging me every time

>>721081102
is this in the balkans or something?

>>721039626 (OP)
Reaper

Running anklets
Bitch skull
Compass
Dice
Poison pouch
Double bind (4 heals and if you get interrupted you get 0-2-4 heals instead of 0-3 heals)
Fan daggers
Tacks GIVE ME BACK THE SNARE FUCKKK

>>721073412
5 minutes of dedicated farming in citadel, calm down

Beast crest would be amazing if not for that awful pogo

>>721080849
Low IQ take

>mfw I just beat the two brothers with adds in the depths of deep docks
My god I dodged and weaved like my life depended on it, holy shit what a fight.

>>721081351
I did go there from the Citadel, but I found nothing other than the way to Mount Fay and the stag. Did I just miss a breakable wall? Or do I need the keys?

>>721081096
Purple things? I gathered three of them, no idea how to find another three so I dropped it.
>>721081174
>gives poison to all your red tools
I don't use red tools. They costs materials and I have no desire to grind for more.

>>721081639
Congrats on beating O&S.
Be glad you did it in Act 2.

>>721081573
I'm going to eventually do a Beast run and learn the pogo, I feel like it's just very different rather than inherently bad.
It's more horizontal than any other pogo, which should not be a bad thing.

>>721081649
The non-capture path into the Slab is locked behind finding a key in a very distant area that has no real connection the Slab. You will find it eventually, don't stress about it for now.

>>721081649
You can't get into most of the area if you don't get jailed until you have double jump, though, I think. There is a key that's in a far northeast zone of Pharloom, but I think both ways in require a double jump.

After looking for the requirements of the Cursed ending I don't think I will do it. There's no way I'm fighting the final boss without healing at this point.
I'd rather do it later in a new playthrough, if I can't do it after unlocking act 3.

>>721081639
The absolute worst part is that you can either have them setup so the one throws his weapon, you jump over it and hit the boss then the other throws his and you dash back until boss dies.
Or its absolute random cancer where none of their attacks are dodgeable and you get pushed into lava.

>>721081639
first fight I unapologetically tool spammed
maybe they're more doable with harpoon and double jump

>>721081639
Felt like an oddly easy fight to me honestly, I was worried it'd be harder

>>721081573
>>721081757
Just picked it up to actually learn it and it's different, although not worse.
It is very hard to land downward strikes on bosses, but all this means is that you need to initiate from further away.

You are very weak to enemies directly below you, though, but on the flip side you can easily use it to initiate attacks on bosses, it feels very safe attacking from the front

>>721081669
You don't need to grind if you're just gonna use them every once in a while and for bosses.
You can also buy them on shops.

>People still using the Compass
You guys still on the first playthrough? After my base playthrough, I never used the Compass again.
Once you play enough, you come to recognize rooms just from a glance at the map.

Though I did use an online map for my Speedrun playthrough to remember where all the important shit is and hit it efficiently. Didn't use the compass at all during it since I was pausing to consult the map so much I knew exactly where I was at all times.
Still not gonna use it in my Steel Soul run though I got this shit down like the back of my hand now.

>>721081823
The funny thing about Cursed/Witch Crest is that its pogo does 50% more damage (two 75% damage hits). It becomes very consistent to literally just bounce on her forehead, dash/Clawline when she moves, repeat. Cause part of her halo is in her hitbox. There's a number of little quirks you gotta learn, but it's really not that bad. It took me about 2 hours of attempts.

>>721081873
It's one of the easier bosses since you can end up there VERY early game without even having the dash if you use the Key you can buy in the first little camp to go down the Deep Docks instead of the Wormways.

>>721081914
I equipped these spikes on the ground and boss killed himself. What the fuck? This shit isn't balanced at all. Before that I killed every boss just with needle and my skill.

>>721081981
There's literally nothing to put in the yellow slots

>>721082040
welcome to easy mode

>>721082040
Tacks are fair and balanced.

>>721078643
>king
>her
Trannie.

>>721082040
Later on, there's quite a few flying foes and enemies which destroy tacks. It's fucking funny.

>>721081757
>>721081891
On bosses it's fine but I'm getting filtered trying to parkour with it. Certainly has the potential

>>721079421
tbf you need to input a diagonal if you want to keep momentum
down only sends you strictly upwards

>>721081757
The charge part is pretty bad. Other pogos don't move your hitbox without giving you iframes

>>721082159
King is part of her name not a title. It's like Hornet, she's not a Hornet either, it's her name.
Grimm's gender is never explicitly stated and I think she's hot as fuck so I consider her to be a girl.

>>721081823
GMS is like a much easier Radiant stage 1 without the tracking balls of doom, the light, or the swords radiating from her. It's definitely doable even if you aren't a great player. Personally I don't think reaching that ending in person is worth not being able to experiment with that crest until act 3, but you do you.

>>721082205
>enemies which destroy tacks
act3 enemies?

Does anything cool happen if you hold off on getting cursed until act 3?
Maybe with the trip through your own memories? Actually can you even get cursed in act 2?

>>721081757
For me the problem with it was that unlike every other crest pogoing off balls doesn't work if you're in direct contact with them.

I've heard there's 3 endings, the normie, true and some secret ending. Can I get locked out of doing any of these at will? I'm in act 2 now exploring citadel

>>721081639
first time I ran out of shards, the combination of adds is so annoying if you don't manage to immediately push them in the lava, and the two guys have so much damn health

>>721082529
You can lock yourself out of the secret one yes

>>721080514
>>721080582
>>721080642
>>721080772
You need to see things from our perspective. I am a 36 yo boomer. I literally cannot stare at a screen that isn't at the lowest brightness or close to it without having my eyes hurting and having to squint them. I can't see shit in that fight, it took me extremely long to adapt and learn the patterns, when I did it was easy but since I can't see shit everything is more tiresome and frustrating than necessary.
Hornet is white, Lace is white, the background is white... they should have thought about this.

When grandma Silk appears at the beginning of the fight I always had to avert the eyes for a few seconds.

>>721043304
NO!!!

>>721072746
>He got the dice tool

Disregarded your entire opinion, you just look things up anyway.

>>721082614
Any hints on what I shouldn't do

>>721082278
The biggest issue is, as you say, there's a period where she moves before she turns into a sonic ball. Here, enemies can damage you.

>>721082529
Act 2 has 3 endings. Normal (beat the Act 2 boss normally) and Cursed (beat the Act 2 boss while being in the Cursed state from the eldritch tentacle vine bud baby sidequest) are missable since the 3rd ending (finish the Silk and Song sidequest and choose to use the trap on the Act 2 boss) will advance the game and trigger Act 3.

>>721082310
You're a retarded faggot

>>721082896
Thanks anon

>>721082845
when life gives you twisting, writhing, lemons that make you unable to bind, go beat grand mother silk

>>721080584
Hollow Knight Prime 3: Corruption

>>721082845
Beat the Act 2 boss and use Bind
Beat the Act 2 boss while you are Cursed (one of the sidequests does this, it will be obvious. careful you don't finish the sidequest as it will permanently lock you out of this ending)
Only after that beat the Act 2 boss and choose to play the Needolin

>>721082529
you're locked out of the secret ending by getting the witch crest
to get that ending you need to complete the final boss of the citadel while having the parasite

>>721082687
i also think the visual clarity in this game is dogshit, and i did everything

>>721082097
>Rosary Magnet so you don't lose tons to falling
>Shard Pendant early on for Shard stockpiling
>Lucky Dice cause they're just OP
>Speed Anklets so you can zoom around
>Gripper for those that suck at the platforming
>Shell Satchel for Steel Soul Architect
>Barbed Wire and Thief's Mark for benefits if you're just that good
All of those have more use than Compass once you know the map. Compass is literally just a thing to help people learn.

>>721081994
You're better than me, if it took you 2 hours it would probably take me 5. No way I'm subjecting myself to that when there are so many more things I still have to do in the game, it just doesn't make any logical sense.

>>721039626 (OP)
Upgraded Hunter or the Drill are OP.
Wanderer and Reaper are beginner tier.
Witch is just fun.

I am stillo looking for the other one.

>nearly beat karmelita first try
>take 5 more attempts to even reach phase 3 again
>beat her and her spikes kill me after i kill her but it still counts as my win
this fight is dick ass

>>721083247
no that guy is just bad. grand mother silk is the easiest boss in the game and I literally did the cursed ending on my first try.

>>721082367
I can do the first phase no damage just fine, the second one not so much. Too much stress for me.

So what are the most broken tools/equipment for steel soul? Just 100% the game and wanna try it.

>>721040417
Beast has the best combat pogo in the whole game what are you on about. It combos so well

>>721083396
Architect OD'ing on Plasmium injections with whatever tools you like

>after defeating Father of the Flame the hooded fire guys no longer release normal attacks but burn themselves to death for a single stronger attack

Neat

>>721045102
Not for me because cogfly is the best tool there is.

>>721081102
That is a really cute outfit.

>>721078059
there's more than one pristine core. I got another one somewhere in the lower cogworks in act 3

>>721081981
Of course people use the compass, you're retarded ass did not memorize every single inch of the map on your first play through.

>>721083342
I litearlly just fought against it dude, I know how hard it is. Second phase I can barely see what's going on. I'm not wasting hours of gameplay for that shit, it's not rewarding enough.

>>721083396
Get Fractured Mask ASAP.
The moment you get the dash in Deep Docks, head back and work through Hunter's March. Be very cautious cause those ants are tanky as hell.
When you do it early like that, the ant with the mask is actually still alive and SELLS you the mask for 260 Rosaries, so be sure to have enough to buy it.

That item is the biggest thing, because it acts as a perfect diaper. The moment it breaks from you shitting yourself, immediately pause and quit. Also, it'd be good to back up your saves at some of the harder points since you can then just reset if you beef it to something BS.
Unless you mean you want to do it "RAW" in which case you're insane and I just pray for your soul and sanity.

>>721082393
Not even.
Trobbio!

>>721080514
I beat her fair and square without cheeses because the fight is not hard in the slightest and you might genuinely be bad at videogames, even her counters are easy to punish

Is there a purpose to getting rid of those void chunks that sometimes hang on the walls in act 3 past the mission to get rid of 12?

>>721083789
Second phase is pretty much like the first except rocks fall from the ceiling, stop being such a baby

>>721084069
Nope. They do stop the area from automatically being full of Void enemies, but that's it. Not really anything big if you're just gonna run past the enemies anyways.

>>721081998
Wrong, they're locked behind a needolin door too. That said their difficulty is obviously going to vary greatly depending on whether you head back there as soon as possible or wait until you've upgraded your needle 3 times.

>>721084228
I don't remember there being a Needolin door at all, were they really?
You probably do need the Clawline at least though, so you can't really do it before the Citadel

>>721084214
More cluttered screen and effects means I can't see what the fuck is going on, which means I get more stressed, which means the likelyhood of making a mistake is higher, which makes thing spiral and ends up with me dying like an idiot.
Not everyone is the same. If I build enough confidence I can do anything without getting hit but it takes a lot of time for me to get to a point like that in these games.

Any unmapped hearts you can find in act 3 other than clover dancers? I want to fight every boss before going back to the shamans

>>721084078
stupid dumpy bug, needs silk correction

>>721083818
What's even the point of doing it if you're gonna be wearing a condom?

>>721071307
It replaces the keep rosaries on death charm, I'm fine with that. According to the wiki there a unique quest and that's what I don't like.

Loadout: hunter's crest
Map marker, dice, magnet
Extra silk capacity, quickheal, heal shield,
Tools: doesn't matter didn't use them
Only karmalita made me switch to a reach charm

>the wanderer has a crit chance when you have enough silk
I can see why people say it's strong/op. More dps, more silk, more dps again with crit

Kind of lame charge attacks don't give silk, I would've like to use them more.

>>721083027
>Beat the Act 2 boss and use Bind
Why are people wording it this way? It's not like there's another option after beating her, is there?

>>721084393
Oh you're right, sorry, that's what it was.

Welp, Great Conchflies were a completely pointless boss, they hit me exactly 0 times lol.
Tomorrow, I will explore the Sands of Karak for the first time.

>>721084787
>It's not like there's another option after beating her, is there?
If you finished the Silk and Song Wish you also have the option to play the Needolin, which will lead to the third Act 2 ending and trigger Act 3 locking you out of the other ways to end Act 2.

>>721084725
It's the closest the game has to difficulty settings.
>Easy Steel Soul - Backing up saves
>Normal Steel Soul - using pause and quit
>Hard Steel Soul - IF I DIE I DO IT AGAIN

Doing the hard way for 100% sounds absolutely insane. I don't wanna lose 20 hours of progress just cause Lost Lace decided to spam too many of her screen covering moves and then backstabbed me.

Just found Savage Beastfly 2. Fuck this thing is obnoxious, there's way too much to keep track of.

>>721084995
Tools to kill the adds is the only way forward senpai

>>721039626 (OP)
Beat Lost Lace with this.

>>721084995
Go in with SHAW skill. Use it to kill the flying bastards ASAP (or just use cogflies if you're far enough along).
Without the lava shooting bastards, it's much easier.

>shard bundle reward during first playthrough
:(
>shard bundle reward after 100% steel soul
:)

What causes this

Wait, you can iframe through its charge with the clawline.

>>721082837
if you pay close attention to the animation when throwing dice you can easily understand when to
then its just a matter of understanding the usual quest types this game and its predecesor had, and its easy to understand that all actions that can be repeated, should be done so until you win enough times to get the reward
not everybody looks things up, some of us just pay attention and play with the toy to figure it out

>>721085252
bad game design

>>721085338
Using tools is bad game design?

>>721084976
but the hard way is literally the only of the 3 thats steel soul, the others are exploits to work around the core mechanic of the game mode

>>721085252
Cause you actually use your damn tools.
Early on, you don't really know how to value tools because:
>You initially think they're meant to be used sparingly
>Then you realize how useful they are
>Then you spam them
>Then you realize you actually need a heavy volume of Shards

>>721085434
Backup is absolutely an exploit, but Save/quit is done purely inside the game and existed in Hollow Knight.
If TC didn't want it to exist, they would've altered how Save/quit works for Silksong.
Here, have an analogy:
Writing full and complete sentences with proper capitalization and punctuation is literally the only of the 3 methods of writing that is acceptable. The others are exploits to work around the core mechanic of linguistics.
Simply put, you should git gud at writing, roflmao.

I already used my first key to free the Green Prince, what should I use my second key for? Deep Docks or Wormways?
I finished the game and I haven't found a third key.

>>721085683
Docks.
>third key
Lad.
There's 4.
2 are from shops lol.
There's only 1 that is actually hard to find and that's only because you forgot about a certain something somewhere.
You should go revisit the blue floating tent.

>>721085781
Revisit the what?

>>721085781
I think I only got the two from shops.
By the floating tent you mean the one where you learn the charge move? I think that was where you learn it, where was that, in Greymoor?

>>721085661
IF TC wouldn't want mods that remove contact damage or damage at all, they would've altered the engine for Silksong

>>721085940
SURELY, SURELY you didn't beat the game without fighting the other boss in Blasted Steps.

>>721086029
but she's on mt. fay

>>721086002
Nope.
The red one is in Far Fields and the blue one is in Blasted Steps.

>>721086104
>she
Lad, please.
I am begging you to comprehend what I am saying.
You're not going there for her. You're going there for what is AROUND the balloon.

>>721086109
Right, Blasted steps. Wait, how do I get the key? The fighter there just teaches you the move after sparring.

>>721086450
There is more to explore here.
And there is a key somewhere further down that path.

>>721078024
It's the leftmost end to Father of the Flame's boss arena in Wisp Thicket. The arena was built out of a bellvein.

>>721084069
It stops auto-voided enemies from populating the room and also removes the extra guaranteed void mobs (that are generally nearby the void clusters), but otherwise there's no particular reason to seek them out.

Possibly you might like to clear more commonly used paths, though.

POSHANKA

>>721078643
Masterful

Anything else to do here now, or is this it?

>>721087436
You'll come back later.
While you're there you may want to grab the bench on the far right side of the room.

>>721083556
Damn I never noticed this because I ran straight past them after beating the boss to get to a bench quickly. I thought they were just caught off guard and the game was giving me time to run before they started attacking as normal.

>>721086539
Okay, thanks.

>>721087509
Yeah, I did. I've heard someone bitching about the runback in this area. But then the bench was right there. So I dunno.