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What went wrong?
Anonymous No.721133084 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
SE being run by hacks since 2002
Anonymous No.721133086 [Report]
Nothing
saucy No.721133110 [Report] >>721144153
>>721133030 (OP)
not much, just doesn't run on my computer as well as Dead Space or GoW Ragnarok for some reason.
Anonymous No.721133146 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Wasn't 4 niggas in a row
Wasn't on Switch
Anonymous No.721133174 [Report]
Nothing
Anonymous No.721133218 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Titan and Bahamut utterly mog all the other Eikons, even the DLC ones. Other than that, nothing. Game rules.
Anonymous No.721133234 [Report]
Turns out all the final fantasy fans remaining are XIV and XIII trannies and they can't play a dumbed down DMC
Anonymous No.721133238 [Report] >>721133308
>target demographic
XIV fans who liked Endwalker who are almost exclusively PC gamers
>release
PS5 exclusive for one fucking year in the age of let's plays

Do the math
Anonymous No.721133304 [Report]
They didn't let us fix her and forced boring ass Jill on us
Anonymous No.721133307 [Report] >>721144306
is a good gaem
Anonymous No.721133308 [Report]
>>721133238
oh and between XVI's PS5 release and PC release, they released Dawntrail, destroying much of the goodwill and idea that they can tell a good story, so they lost a lot of fans
Anonymous No.721133346 [Report] >>721133505
>>721133030 (OP)
>story focused action game instead of rpg
>story isn’t very good
>combat is stagger slop
at least it’s pretty
Anonymous No.721133423 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
It was fun. PC port is total shit though
Anonymous No.721133429 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
I played it for the story and liked it
Anonymous No.721133505 [Report]
>>721133346
Story was pretty good in the first 1/3 then it goes into the wacky JRPG bullshit. Just make a dark edgy GOT Final Fantasy. YoshiP was too much of a pussy to go dark
Anonymous No.721133508 [Report] >>721134096 >>721153742 >>721156339
>>721133030 (OP)
FF6
> Young devs trying to make something cool
FF16
>Old retards trying to make Game of Thrones solely to pander to what they think normalfag subhumans like
Anonymous No.721133581 [Report] >>721142436
>>721133030 (OP)
consequences of 15
thats like asking what went wrong with mass effect 4
spillover from 3's disaster
t. game history guru
Anonymous No.721133876 [Report] >>721134202
>>721133030 (OP)
If FF15 got the time it deserved to be finished, it would be an infinitely better game than the trash FF16 was.
Anonymous No.721134005 [Report] >>721134189 >>721134290
>>721133030 (OP)
killed the mc
killed the brother x2
raped waifu
no tonberries until the DLC
no cactuars at all
bad performance
meh music
meh combat
no real magic
Anonymous No.721134096 [Report] >>721153742
>>721133508
Nigger that is exactly what Elden Fail was. Normie bait with George RR Martin shit. The same woe-is-me suicide ruined world aesthetic. A game that reeks of arrogant self-importance that modern artists like to do.
Anonymous No.721134124 [Report]
they forgot to make the gameplay engaging
Anonymous No.721134189 [Report]
>>721134005
>killed the mc
Wrog
Anonymous No.721134202 [Report]
>>721133876
How many more years and DLC did it need?
Anonymous No.721134265 [Report]
Finishing Jack's Game hours before XVI released was a mistake. Made XVI's combat seem even worse than it is.
Anonymous No.721134290 [Report] >>721134392 >>721134934 >>721135920
>>721134005
Wtf... Did they really make.the female love interest raped goods? Fucking japs man
Anonymous No.721134328 [Report] >>721142682
Torgal is the goodest boy
Anonymous No.721134379 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
>Literal mmo tier sidequest design
>Zero interesting party mechanics
>Locked difficulty behind ng+
>every time the primary antagonist appears the story gets less interestint
I think thats it
Anonymous No.721134392 [Report] >>721134619 >>721134934
>>721134290
Not just raped, but raped for 13 years.
Anonymous No.721134474 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
If it wanted to be DMC with the combat, it should've gone all the way.
Anonymous No.721134619 [Report] >>721134716 >>721134934 >>721135920
>>721134392
proof?
Anonymous No.721134716 [Report] >>721134934
>>721134619
She was a slave from 12-25
Anonymous No.721134934 [Report] >>721135017 >>721136126
>>721134290
>>721134619
>>721134716
>>721134392
What, are you gonna fight Clive for Jill's hand in marriage? Keep in mind he stabs Garuda in the eye and killed a dragoon with a fireball at age 16.
Anonymous No.721134960 [Report] >>721135636 >>721137015
>>721133030 (OP)
Square didn't give it even a quarter of the marketing it gave XV. Where was 16's anime and full length CG movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW2tbmUer4k

Where was 16's wholesome product placement and big IRL brand tie-ins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ON_gV71Lk

Where was 16's remake of a classic (and expensive) song by some hag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoUXT5OzRNg

Square sent 16 out to die.
Anonymous No.721135017 [Report] >>721135996
>>721134934
lol wut
Anonymous No.721135020 [Report] >>721135184
>>721133030 (OP)
it wasn't an 11/10 gotyay and was instead an alright action game from a team that had no business ever making one, so the same three retards that shit their pants over the mmo all day cried about it taking up too much precious dev time instead of making more diaperfaggot content for them
Anonymous No.721135184 [Report]
>>721135020
XVI launch threads on /v/ were the interesting intersection of a bunch of schizos all claiming that their specific gripe was why the game was shit (they had not played it)
Anonymous No.721135329 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
My biggest gripe was actually the combat itself. I hate how the cooldowns even existed. I wanted to just style and combo on enemies freely, but anytime I felt the urge I had to basically slow myself down thanks to the ability cooldowns. Abilities and your moveset should have been two separate things.
Anonymous No.721135415 [Report] >>721135497 >>721135560
Turns out FF fans LIKE the four niggas in a row genre.
Who could have guessed?
Anonymous No.721135450 [Report]
from what I can see I really ignored it for some reason, but basically not anime enough, it looks really bland.
Anonymous No.721135497 [Report]
>>721135415
>Who could have guessed?
Somehow, the fr*nch
Anonymous No.721135560 [Report] >>721135990
>>721135415
didn't seem to be a problem for FFXV
hell FFXIII was originally shown off as an action game too
Anonymous No.721135636 [Report] >>721135756 >>721136084
>>721134960
Still sold 2x what Rebirth did thoughbeit
Anonymous No.721135756 [Report] >>721135868
>>721135636
Not defending Rebirth, never played it or the remake, but Rebirth being a sequel to a spin-off of a 20-year-old game can't be expected to sell well.
Anonymous No.721135868 [Report]
>>721135756
Opposite. I was expected to sell very well based on the VII brand.
Rebirth did not, and was instead outsold by the fastest selling PS5 exclusive FFXVI.
Anonymous No.721135920 [Report] >>721153118
>>721134290
>>721134619
of course she wasn't raped you retard and the game actually addresses this, you're responding to cuckposters who didn't play it

she was enslaved as a weapon by the iron kingdom, who view dominants as hellspawn and basically untouchable

now if you really wanted i guess you could make a decent argument to yourself that there was at least one iron nigger with a demon fetish who didn't give a fuck but that'd just be your own headcanon
Anonymous No.721135978 [Report] >>721136441
>>721133030 (OP)
They tried to turn Final Fantasy into Devil May Cry, but forgot that Devil May Cry fans don't want to sit through 20-30 hours of cutscenes and Final Fantasy fans don't want to play a Devil May Cry game.
In short, it's the identity of the game, it doesn't know what it wants to be. It has longer cutscenes than even Kojima games, but the combat is action focused with almost no rpg elements, and the elements that are there are basic state +1% types and they aren't cosmetic, meaning you don't see any accessory like a belt or ring on the main character.
Speaking of the main character, he's the only one who is playable, there is no Party system, none whatsoever in a 'Final Fantasy' game.
Even the Spin Off titles Strangers of Paradise had a party system, also a far, far deeper customisation system for weapons and loot.
Speaking of loot there is none in FF16 other than 10wolveskins and 10gil hope you like 10 gil because that's what you'll be getting from most of the chests.
I really, really wanted to like this game, I was excited to play it I even bought a PS5 just for FF16, and I felt immense disappointment with the game.
I did enjoy the story and felt emotions during certain moments, two of the characters reuniting for example was very touching as was the ending, but the gameplay, the world itself, the lack of exploration, of loot, of items in the world, of variety in the enemies, and lack of towns and cities to explore, places to go.
FF15 gets a lot of slack but it had fully modelled towns, gas stations, little locations to explore and a couple of cities. FF16 had none of that, very, very disappointing.
Voice cast was amazing and probably the highlight, unfortunately the best character in the game dies too soon.
Anonymous No.721135990 [Report] >>721136296 >>721140718
>>721135560
Both games didn't put FOUR niggas IN A ROW
FF13? THREE niggas. But they were mostly in a row. They didn't STAY there, but it was close.
FF15? Four niggas, NOT IN A ROW. They were running all over the place, doing whatever the fuck. Squeenix moved in the wrong direction with that one!
FF16? DONEZO. One nigga, no row possible.

The problem is that FF12 did OKAY with the gambit system so it still FELT like four niggas in a row, kinda, even if they weren't in a row. And you could pause and take direct control as necessary. But there's a reason all true FF fans believe FF10 is peak, and that's because
it
IS
PEAK
NIGGAS
IN A
ROW
Anonymous No.721135996 [Report] >>721136090
>>721135017
Why do you care if Jill got raped? Clive got over it. Are you looking out for your buddy Clive?
Anonymous No.721136041 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Someday Im going to get my soulsslop FF and it will sell gangbusters. Amazing everything, shitty fucking combat.
Anonymous No.721136084 [Report]
>>721135636
Didn't they both sell around 3 million?
Anonymous No.721136090 [Report] >>721136126 >>721136131
>>721135996
No. I'm literally Clive, so I'm looking out for myself.
Anonymous No.721136126 [Report] >>721136705
>>721136090
You are not Clive. Unless you did all this >>721134934
which you could never do
Anonymous No.721136131 [Report] >>721136228
>>721136090
Hi Clive!
Anonymous No.721136228 [Report]
>>721136131
Hi!
Anonymous No.721136296 [Report] >>721136912
>>721135990
Squaresoft, hire this man!
Anonymous No.721136343 [Report] >>721136441 >>721136554 >>721136796 >>721137872 >>721142810
>>721133030 (OP)
FFXVI is a top 5 Final Fantasy
Anonymous No.721136441 [Report] >>721136513
>>721136343
>>721135978
No it is not.
Anonymous No.721136513 [Report]
>>721136441
xvfags are subhuman
begone
Anonymous No.721136514 [Report] >>721136573 >>721136752
FF16 is not a real Final Fantasy game.
Anonymous No.721136554 [Report] >>721136796
>>721136343
6,7,8, 9, 10

I think it fits somewhere into the top 16 tho.
Anonymous No.721136573 [Report] >>721136670 >>721136752
>>721136514
Wrong.
Anonymous No.721136670 [Report]
>>721136573
He was just kissing Square's boots so they could help him with Fantasian later on. Hori eventually took his Diorama style and made used it for DQ7 and acted like it was his original idea all along.
Anonymous No.721136697 [Report] >>721136876
>>721133030 (OP)
Square Enix had poisoned their reputation with prior screw-ups, especially those related to FFXV, their failed attempts to enter the mobile market, demakes of the original 6 FF games and that shitty NFT game. They were also dumb enough to listen to the snoyboys and made it a PS5 exclusive at first, which backfired and drained the hype for it.

And this was before the huge backlash against rainbow shit became widespread. True, this game has practically no DEI shit (hell, even Dion screwing a guy is treated tactfully, something rare nowadays), but SE is one of the few eastern companies that went full retard on that, and it screwed up their rep even harder.
Anonymous No.721136705 [Report] >>721136789
>>721136126
I did do all of that tho
Anonymous No.721136752 [Report]
>>721136573
Nope you're wrong and
>>721136514
is correct.
The gooch is friendly with the FF14 director/ producer and was sparing his feelings. He has praised a lot of FF games in a similar manner.
Anonymous No.721136789 [Report] >>721136870
>>721136705
Nah you just watched him do all that. You pressed buttons to guide him along like a wingman.
Anonymous No.721136796 [Report]
>>721136343
>>721136554
My top 10 mainlines are probably
IX, V, VI, XI, XII, XIV, XVI, X, VII, IV(3D)
Anonymous No.721136869 [Report] >>721137250
Anonymous No.721136870 [Report]
>>721136789
No. I am Clive. I did that with my own two hands.
Anonymous No.721136876 [Report] >>721136947 >>721137232
>>721136697
Dion being a flaming homosexual actually had real consequences for the story - the bloodline of his father would not be passed down thanks to Dion being gay, and so he sought out to make a new heir and for that, he set his eyes on Clive's noble and very fertile mum, kickstarting all the bad shit that happens to Clive and his family.
Anonymous No.721136912 [Report]
>>721136296
My time capsule friend, I'm sorry to say that Square is fucking dead. They killed it. Sony fucking killed it.
Anonymous No.721136947 [Report]
>>721136876
Clive should have fucked his own mom. It would have solved every issue.
Anonymous No.721137015 [Report]
>>721134960
Tabata liked to blow money
Yoshi-P likes to make great Final Fantasy
Anonymous No.721137182 [Report] >>721137848
Even Tabata acknowledges FFXVI’s superiority

https://x.com/aitaikimochi/status/1740473429848179090?s=46&t=euLdnf3Z7aP9BOIxJR9E-A
Anonymous No.721137232 [Report]
>>721136876
I'd say it was The Spirits Within that fucked the soul out of Square. They went through quite a crisis trying to plug the hole that film leftcin their finances.

A pity, to be honest, as I liked TSW. James Woods as the bad guy rocked.
Anonymous No.721137250 [Report] >>721141157 >>721144449
>>721136869
Anonymous No.721137302 [Report] >>721137364 >>721137423 >>721137572
>topic about ff xvi
>xvfags went full defense mode
why xvfags so insecure and fragile to the powah of Final Fantasy May Cry XVI?
Anonymous No.721137364 [Report]
>>721137302
xvi is shit
xv is even more shit
Anonymous No.721137423 [Report]
>>721137302
Like who? Point to the posts that are doing that.
Anonymous No.721137572 [Report] >>721137632
>>721137302
For whatever reason, one schizophrenic chose FFXV as his molehill to die on.
Anonymous No.721137632 [Report]
>>721137572
It looks to me like you're the schizoid bringing up this out of nowhere, I asked the other guy to point to the posts about the 'xvfags' and I'm still waiting.
Anonymous No.721137848 [Report]
>>721137182
Based and true
Anonymous No.721137872 [Report] >>721137981 >>721138295 >>721139138
>>721136343
Tactics>7>6>9>3>5>Rebirth>16
Yea, if we just count mainline Id rank it 6th. Close enough.
Anonymous No.721137981 [Report]
>>721137872
Rebirth doesn't make my list
too much Ubisoft design
Anonymous No.721138295 [Report] >>721139138 >>721139145
>>721137872
I find it hard to objectively choose between the better Final Fantasies. The top tier ones all seem to have something great to offer.
Even the lower tier FFs are still pretty good games.
Anonymous No.721138852 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Not much.
10/10ish game
Anonymous No.721139138 [Report] >>721139269 >>721139271
>>721137872
>>721138295
FF9> everything else.
Anonymous No.721139145 [Report] >>721139271
>>721138295
100% Plus do you rate off your last playthtough, first playthrough (which is how I normally rank), or all comparatively. FF9 with 15 second load times is unplayable today, crazy how we just didnt notice it at the time.
That said nothing is saving 4 or 13 for me.
Anonymous No.721139269 [Report] >>721139393
>>721139138
Definitely the comfiest. I heard theres a mod that drastically improves the graphics. I should replay it sometime soon. Use the blue mage guy and dragoon for once.
Anonymous No.721139271 [Report] >>721139393
>>721139138
IX is pretty perfect, aside from some technical limitations like >>721139145 mentioned. I didn't really notice the load times when I played it again recently on the Switch though, so it's still not really a big deal.
Anonymous No.721139393 [Report] >>721139542
>>721139269
The Moguri mod on steam, it renders the backgrounds like you'd remember the game.

>>721139271
The Moguri mod changes the load times of FF9 you can tweak things and 'cheat' a little bit even turn off random encounters if you want to.
Anonymous No.721139542 [Report]
>>721139393
That combined with the music. Pure soul.
Anonymous No.721139601 [Report] >>721141556
>>721133030 (OP)
Final Fantasy needed a Breath of the Wild-like franchise revivalolution that would break down the normy barrier and return the series to its place upon the throne of jrpgs. All they got was a good game instead.
Anonymous No.721139629 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
combat needed more tweaking and they should have had party members and the job system from ff13 lightning returns transformed in someway so it was half baked enjoyed it but it has it's issues
Anonymous No.721140102 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Giving Jill no agency, even though she's a dominant too. Dhalimil and Mid fetch quests which kill the pacing. Little bitch ending where they refuse to commit to killing/letting Clive live and act smug about it. Exploration is shit.
Anonymous No.721140217 [Report]
I'm thinking about playing Fantasian.
Anonymous No.721140247 [Report]
They killed off the only interesting character midway through the game
Anonymous No.721140413 [Report] >>721140758
>>721133030 (OP)
Final Fantasy 12, and other Ivalice games, did what it was trying to do with the "gritty fantasy serious political war drama" but better and actually well thought out. Also being more fun rpgs and not a shitty DMC-like.
Anonymous No.721140449 [Report] >>721140869
>>721133030 (OP)
It didn't know what it wanted to be. It leaned the action route but ulimately you're busting your skill load all at once while spamming slash. They should have just made the summons into different weapons and leaned the more DMC route.

But overal the combat is fine. The game really stumbles with the bloat inbetween story chapters. The areas are boring, the side quests are tedious and boring, Everything you do inbetween the story moments is bad. Even the clones are mostly just recolors of the scant few enemies in the game.
Anonymous No.721140680 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
SE chasing trends instead of innovating them. Coupled with a rather shallow combat system, the biggest problem lies in the fact you get to play the game for 10 minutes, but then have to sit through 20 to 30 minutes of movie-game. It's not a final Fantasy, it's a Nu-GOW/TLOU shitter mixed with terrible DMC/Soulsborne combat.
Anonymous No.721140718 [Report]
>>721135990
In FF12, the characters tend to stay in a formation that does frequently end up looking horizontal, so it's kind of like a row.
Anonymous No.721140758 [Report] >>721140870 >>721140997
>>721140413
Support high fantasy FF games like XVI if you want more like XII and Tactics. Otherwise XVII will end being Ubisoft slop in space or some shit.
Anonymous No.721140869 [Report]
>>721140449
>Even the clones are mostly just recolors of the scant few enemies in the game.
Im finding this in most modern games and cant figure out why?
Dragons Dogma 2 had 8 enemies in a 80 hour game?
Anonymous No.721140870 [Report]
>>721140758
Nah, I dont like FFXVI regardless because it's written in this really obnoxious way that is common in seinen-type manga and anime; trying way too hard to be dark and edgy but it just loops around back to being corny.
Anonymous No.721140997 [Report] >>721141094
>>721140758
How do I support without buying? I don't want to waste money on trash.
Anonymous No.721141094 [Report] >>721141169 >>721141226
>>721140997
Buy Tactics Remastered
or suck it up and buy XVI anyway
there's a sale on it and a bunch of FF games right now
Anonymous No.721141157 [Report]
>>721137250
Kek
Anonymous No.721141169 [Report] >>721141346
>>721141094
>Buy Tactics Remastered
$50 what a scam dude. Can you really justify that price outside of being being a corpo paypiggy?
Anonymous No.721141226 [Report]
>>721141094
>Buy Tactics Remastered
>or suck it up and buy XVI anyway
Guess I won't be supporting them then.
Not gonna pay for trash to gamble on the future
Anonymous No.721141265 [Report] >>721141342
hows the pc performance
Anonymous No.721141342 [Report] >>721141402
>>721141265
depends on your rig
Pretty good if you are using a 40 or 50 series that doesn't end in 60
Anonymous No.721141346 [Report] >>721141394
>>721141169
What are you, poor?
Anonymous No.721141394 [Report] >>721141483
>>721141346
Mediocrity should not be rewarded, That's how Final Fantasy ended up as it is now.
Anonymous No.721141402 [Report] >>721141505
>>721141342
3080 7800x3s
Anonymous No.721141483 [Report]
>>721141394
That's why I'm not buying 7R3. Not supporting that slop anymore.
I am buying Tactics Remastered though, it looks pretty good.
Anonymous No.721141505 [Report]
>>721141402
You should be able to get a solid 60fps at 1440p with high settings at least, maybe better
Anonymous No.721141556 [Report] >>721141629 >>721148371
>>721139601
Tendies are cultists, if botw was multiplatform and without the Zelda name it wouldn't sell as much
Anonymous No.721141629 [Report]
>>721141556
yeah
very hollow game
Anonymous No.721141752 [Report] >>721141851 >>721142178
>FF1
>Four niggas
>FF16
>One nigga

YOU LOST NIGGAS. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S TURN-BASED OR ACTION OR WHATEVER THE FUCK, YOU HAVE FEWER NIGGAS THAN YOU STARTED WITH NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!?
Anonymous No.721141851 [Report]
>>721141752
At times, there are 4 niggas.
Mc, bro*, gf*, dog*
*don't do shit tho
Anonymous No.721142178 [Report]
>>721141752
True, we should have at least 16 niggas in a row by now.
Like imagine FF6 but all your niggas in a row at once
Anonymous No.721142317 [Report]
I feel like SE is experimenting with DQ7Reimagined. Reimagined projects can be way less restricting and with lower budgets, like, if FF9R was real at some point I think they delayed it and will see how the reimagined of dq7 will do
Anonymous No.721142436 [Report]
>>721133581
more like consequences from 13
Anonymous No.721142587 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
It's just too boring, that's it and Cid (The only actually good character) dies 1/3 into the game.
Anonymous No.721142682 [Report]
>>721134328
Helloooo Reddit!
Anonymous No.721142810 [Report] >>721143893 >>721144032
>>721136343
>VI
>VII
>V
>III
>X

Nah
Anonymous No.721143723 [Report] >>721144032
>>721133030 (OP)
Personally i think it was a step into the right direction.
The story itself felt pretty FFesque, but it was a bit hard on being too serious.
I also liked that they put the focus into the main story again, unlike XV which was like 10 hrs story and 40 side content. Well, at least until the last two chapters were they went retarded again with the quantity of sidequests.
Gameplay is a tough nut. I can understand many people disliking the fact it's not a 4 niggers in a row and that there's no more elements of (de)buffs, but ultimately I think the combat want too bad. I'm also aDMCfag though.

The improvements to the story and quest design as well as the e success of E33 has me going they'll make a proper FF again.
Anonymous No.721143893 [Report]
>>721142810

this is correct
Anonymous No.721144032 [Report]
>>721143723
I agree with this.
>>721142810
Remove III, replace with IX
Anonymous No.721144153 [Report]
>>721133110
kys shit eating nigger faggot
Anonymous No.721144281 [Report] >>721144409
is it cracked
saucy No.721144306 [Report]
>>721133307
bury good gaem
Anonymous No.721144409 [Report] >>721144421
>>721144281
Yeah
Anonymous No.721144421 [Report] >>721145579
>>721144409
without the nuvo?
Anonymous No.721144449 [Report]
>>721137250
My sides.
Anonymous No.721145458 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Absolute piece of shit
Anonymous No.721145579 [Report] >>721145616
>>721144421
Yeah but it runs like horrible garbage. And it's not in Unreal Engine so it can't be fixed.
Anonymous No.721145595 [Report]
Just release a new mmo already. People get sick of more of the same on top of having to slog through all the expansions to get to the end game community.
Anonymous No.721145616 [Report]
>>721145579
god dmanit
Anonymous No.721145921 [Report] >>721146873
>>721133030 (OP)
Nothing wrong with the game. Barry gaslit /v/ into hating it for no reason.
Anonymous No.721146024 [Report] >>721146320 >>721146570
still baffles me how this game got greenlit under the FF name. nothing about it is FF.
Anonymous No.721146320 [Report]
>>721146024
The summons and spectacle are very FF
But that's it
Anonymous No.721146570 [Report]
>>721146024
Chocobos :)
Anonymous No.721146630 [Report]
16 is less final fantasy than 2 and that one was a experimental sequel before they nailed down the formula
having a party and a world that expands when you gain a new form of transport(ship>airship) was a staple from day one
Anonymous No.721146708 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
It was _ok
Anonymous No.721146759 [Report] >>721146932 >>721147045
>>721133030 (OP)
nothing
game is good
boomers are too shit at vidya to handle anything faster than turdbased
Anonymous No.721146806 [Report] >>721146884 >>721147053 >>721147230 >>721147519 >>721147593 >>721147705 >>721148187
i'm not even the sort of fag that thinks that a turn based game will automatically be a hit or be good, especially with how shit SE has been for years and how much good will theyve already burnt
but holy hell is there no company out there that can outcompete them when it comes to being out of touch with the market and their own consumers.
FFfags literally want turn based shit but they never give it to them, and instead they try and chase the """modern audience""" by going for actionslop that is already 10 years dated and out of fashion.
The relative success of games in picrel just makes it all the more hilarious
Anonymous No.721146873 [Report]
>>721145921
He won. Square Penis lost.
Anonymous No.721146884 [Report] >>721146989
>>721146806
Anonymous No.721146932 [Report] >>721148204
>>721146759
I'm 32 and I was really good at 16. It's not a older gamer thing. It's just that 16s combat was too easy. Once you find the Eikon rotation that works well for you, the game is auto-pilot. Also the parry window and perfect dodge window is lenient. If your reflex are too slow you can just put on the ring that makes you auto-dodge anyway lol Rebirth was much more difficult, fun, and complex.
Anonymous No.721146989 [Report] >>721147120
>>721146884
Also mogged totk
Anonymous No.721147045 [Report] >>721148204
>>721146759
all you have to do is mash r1
boomers have been doing that for years
sure, that way is shit and slow, but you don't need any skill to beat the game
Anonymous No.721147053 [Report] >>721147206
>>721146806
FF is way more risky because those games have higher budgets. It's why they keep experimenting with FF while making turn based games for other ips
Even exp33 only sold 4 millions despite all the spam
Anonymous No.721147120 [Report] >>721154291
>>721146989
I'm pretty sure I made that after the game awards.
It was funny seeing him there as if he thought his pile of shit would have a chance at winning.
Anonymous No.721147206 [Report] >>721147272
>>721147053
>FF is way more risky because those games have higher budgets
Maybe they shouldn't. Maybe they should focus on churning out smaller budget games that the fans would like instead of spending 7 years to make trash.
Anonymous No.721147230 [Report]
>>721146806
Those games were more for the presentation over anything, specially bg3 being popular for the ones who like dating sim elements
Anonymous No.721147272 [Report]
>>721147206
And that's what they have been doing. Honestly it's just bring ps5 only and being divided in 3 games the thing affecting them the most. A new game with Rebirth combat and multiplatform day one would sell well enough.
I think they are trying the Reimagined projects now because they can make low budget turn based games with those
Anonymous No.721147519 [Report]
>>721146806
I don't turn based combat is even part of the conversation on why ff16 is bad. rebirth already proved you can have good real-time combat and still retain that party synergy ff formula. if anything, I never really associate FF with turn based. ATB has been a thing as far back as FF4.
Anonymous No.721147593 [Report] >>721147650 >>721147720 >>721147730
>>721146806
Ff16 failed because of no party system and ff7r for being way too long to tell an already old story.
Anonymous No.721147650 [Report]
>>721147593
As soon as they go back to turn based that schizo will go back to his "FF was never good" shitposting don't worry
Anonymous No.721147705 [Report]
>>721146806
more than turn based, it's that FFfags actually want an RPG and SE just doesn't give it to them.
FF13 at least felt like an rpg despite all the problems those games had, but FF15 and FF16 can barely even be called RPGs
Anonymous No.721147720 [Report] >>721147789
>>721147593
They really thought they could giga milk FF7. That shit was 20 years ago. If they had made one big game, it would have sold more than the entire 7r trilogy.
Anonymous No.721147730 [Report]
>>721147593
>way too long
Uhmmm... I enjoyed my 100 hour story actually.
Anonymous No.721147783 [Report]
The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
Anonymous No.721147789 [Report] >>721147849
>>721147720
It would have worked if they released the remake in PS3 when millennials were in their prime.
Nowadays jrpgs have to compete with gacha too and nostalgiabait doesn't work as well when your fandom is dealing with age crisis or already moved on
Anonymous No.721147849 [Report] >>721148113
>>721147789
>age crisis
Elaborate?
Anonymous No.721148082 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
It’s better than XV, but that’s a small bar to cross, but it’s not that good.
Anonymous No.721148113 [Report] >>721148229
>>721147849
Feeling older and impatient
I can see the same happening with p6 and zoomers, when P5 released zoomers were gachaless and young, now with p6 they will be dealing with age in their 30s and being more gachafag
Anonymous No.721148187 [Report] >>721148338
>>721146806
>FFfags literally want turn based shit but they never give it to them
nah, that's just FFX fags
Anonymous No.721148189 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
needed a bit of variety gameplay wise and less handholding
how are you not even gonna have a card game or fishing
Anonymous No.721148204 [Report] >>721148303 >>721148343
>>721146932
>>721147045
the endgoal of the game is not to beat it and get over with it
it's to do sick combos and play it in a stylish fashion
and that's exactly what boomers fail to accomplish. as you two have just proven
Anonymous No.721148229 [Report] >>721148261 >>721148918
>>721148113
Don't you start mellowing out and getting more patient when you get older
Anonymous No.721148261 [Report] >>721148461
>>721148229
No.
Hell notice this, ever wonder why you see more constant crying and ragebaiting over the same old faggot and no threads about DQ girls, SaGa threads, etc etc? People have more fun crying these days
Anonymous No.721148303 [Report]
>>721148204
lol, I didn't play it that way, which is why I said it was shit and slow
my point is that even boomers could play it
boomers 100% have more fun just mashing r1 and looking at the pretty colors
Anonymous No.721148338 [Report]
>>721148187
Anonymous No.721148343 [Report] >>721148448
>>721148204
>the endgoal of the game is not to beat it and get over with it
>it's to do sick combos and play it in a stylish fashion
You speak as though these two goals are mutually exclusive. The problem with this in 16 however is that just doing cool combos is shallow compared to other games better designed for that. Not to mention an action game that forces you to get good will always be better than one that enables you to do cool things solely for the sake of it.
Anonymous No.721148371 [Report] >>721148468
>>721141556
No Zelda sold anywhere near what BotW sold. Why did Tendies go cultist for that and not the other Zeldas?
Anonymous No.721148448 [Report]
>>721148343
and yet DMC5 struggles with the exact same problems but is considered to be the peak of the genre
Anonymous No.721148461 [Report] >>721148515 >>721148521
>>721148261
>People have more fun crying these days
I believe most of the crying (at least in the gaming space) is done by people in their mid 20s and younger. I can't imagine a 35 year old sitting on the internet complaining about a female protagonist not being hot enough, or the AssCreed black guy, or whatever else culture war stuff is the flavor of the month. They just won't buy the game and move on with their day.
Anonymous No.721148468 [Report]
>>721148371
Switch portable
Covid with news advertising it in tv
Also mid life crisis too
Anonymous No.721148479 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
FF games live and breathe by their stories or their worlds, and FF16's story was shit.
Doesn't help that the gameplay is also awful.
You know it to be true, FF13 was the beginning of the end because all the problems started then, and FF15 and 16 were abysmal.
FF12 at least had amazing worldbuilding and the writing itself was good, even if the plot was as cookie cutter basic as you could get
Anonymous No.721148515 [Report] >>721148618
>>721148461
Yeah there are 20 yos trying to fit in but a lot of the sperging comes from childless depressed millennials.
I remember the panty schizo confusing fatal frame 4 and 5, you would see for larping as Le hurt old fan he would fucking know which game is which kek
Anonymous No.721148521 [Report] >>721148618
>>721148461
>I can't imagine a 35 year old sitting on the internet complaining about a female protagonist not being hot enough
I'm a 32 year old sitting on the internet complaining about female protagonists even existing
Anonymous No.721148548 [Report]
Shit engine with dogshit performance movie game difficulty and gameplay
Combat system
Uneven story pacing around the end (minor)

This game is amazing, still. If they could re-release it with turn based combat it would have been beyond kino.

Story is captivating. Characters are all memorable. Voice cast is great. Visual direction and boss fights are an absolute spectacle and Soken's operatic soundtrack just elevates this game to a different level.

Sadly it is more an experience than a game because its so easy it plays itself. The only boss to potentially give you trouble is a dlc one.

Symphonic Find the Flame is top tier.

They need to do a relaunch of xvi as a turn based game (with steep discounts to current owners) and offer some alt. Endings and player agency in new version to justify ppl buying again. 80% of work is already done.
Anonymous No.721148618 [Report] >>721148907 >>721149132
>>721148515
>>721148521
Well if you guys are right, I find that disheartening for the future that men who should be around family age or doing cool interesting stuff are engaging in this childish behavior.
Anonymous No.721148907 [Report] >>721149068
>>721148618
But I don't like playing as a chick, and more and more games star chicks.
It sucks balls. I am legit one of the "I miss when games were a boys club" guys.
And everyone here is a reject or hermit. I'm a hermit. I like my life. I have no interest in others.
Anonymous No.721148918 [Report]
>>721148229
yeah but you also stop paying as much attention to things like video games. The reason the wait between games as a young person felt so much longer (despite the actual time between releases being much shorter for the most part) is because young people will get heavily invested in things they like as they have much more free time. With older gamers you'll be lucky if they even know and/or remember that a new entry is coming out because they're paying attention to so many other things.
Anonymous No.721149068 [Report] >>721149423
>>721148907
>But I don't like playing as a chick,
I won't tell you how to live, but I just avoid things I don't like. Complaints only make sense to me if they will actually change something. Like for example, I complained to my professor that I and some of my classmates who sit in the back of the hall couldn't see what he was doing on the board because his fonts were too small. So he made the fonts bigger. lol Stuff like that is the only thing I see as worth complaining about you know?
>I'm a hermit. I like my life. I have no interest in others.
Based gigachad
Anonymous No.721149132 [Report] >>721149317
>>721148618
Ragebait is addicting. Add to that all those millennials who missed out the YouTuber golden age when only a few fags were recording their faces, so now you see a lot of bald millennials doing ragebait shit to compensate them never getting onto the YouTuber train in their prime.
And yes, just look at how many YOSHITp threads we get compared to all the turn based games. You would think people would discussing their girls, their favorite scenes, their builds, etc.
Anonymous No.721149317 [Report] >>721149452
>>721149132
>so now you see a lot of bald millennials doing ragebait shit to compensate them never getting onto the YouTuber train in their prime.
Fucking pathetic. lol I don't typically hate on millennials (my older brother is cool) but yeah I see what you're talking about
Anonymous No.721149423 [Report] >>721149736
>>721149068
>I won't tell you how to live, but I just avoid things I don't like.
I do, I'm not playing those games. And that's why I bitch about it. It's not just that more games with women are being made; it's that there are fewer games being made with male leads. It's rare that I'm even interested in more than 5 games a year. Growing up, there were too many games I wanted, and I couldn't play them all. Now there aren't enough that I like. It's why I ended up reading more and gaming less. And as a hermit, I just want to bitch out loud, so I do it here lol. I mostly end up playing older games these days. Ones that I missed or passed up.
Anonymous No.721149452 [Report] >>721149736 >>721149824
>>721149317
I mean I'm a millennial too, but I can see fellow millennials being too desperate (like when I see millennial hags jumping onto streaming now instead in their prime because they fell for the 2 careers meme). I also hate ragebait with a passion since those are ruining gaming space discussion and rage addiction poisons your soul and your mind. Maybe I just dislike those spreading misery
Anonymous No.721149736 [Report] >>721149824 >>721150230
>>721149423
>I'm even interested in more than 5 games a year.
What'd you find yourself interested in this year?
>>721149452
>I also hate ragebait with a passion since those are ruining gaming space discussion
Same. It's basically impossible to have discussions here on /v/ about a popular game. I gave up on Final Fantasy threads for the most part.
Anonymous No.721149816 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
ARR
Anonymous No.721149824 [Report] >>721149864
>>721149452
>>721149736
It's not even in FF threads only, it's every jrpg having some schizo being a drama queen and larping as an old fan. Hell some janny even removed some DQ11 and 8 threads
Anonymous No.721149864 [Report]
>>721149824
And then every time you say "this is retarded lets talk about the game" they call you one of their boogeymen. I can't tell you how many times I get called Rovert or something
Anonymous No.721150212 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Everything is fine. Folks who hate it are allowed to like JRPG games, but they never really understand the "Final Fantasy" series vibe. They want their childhood back. But the fact is they were just stupid kids to see things as they are back then.
Anonymous No.721150230 [Report] >>721150856
>>721149736
I played KCD1 and 2 and really enjoyed both.
I liked E33 a lot, but the endings suck. Great music, and I was really happy that it had an overworld like classic FFs.
I played DOOM: TDA, but I hated it so much that after I beat it, I played DOOM, DOOM 2016, and DOOM Eternal right after to wash the taste out.
I'm a big Lies of P fan, and the DLC was fantastic. I loved every minute of it.
Got the Oblivion Remaster. It was pretty fun.
And lastly, I'm looking forward to Dispatch once all the episodes are out.
Other than that, I've played FF5-8 this year. Well, I'm currently on 8.
Anonymous No.721150856 [Report] >>721151039
>>721150230
Sounds like a based boomer to me. Maelle was right though. If you wanna keep up with /v/ you're gonna have to play Silksong though, anon. Sorry but rules are rules
Anonymous No.721150947 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Refusal to commit to being an RPG or an action game. Should have picked one, instead it ends up as a bland mix.
Anonymous No.721151039 [Report]
>>721150856
>Silksong
No thanks. FeMC, plus I really don't care for those types of games. I did try Hollow Knight, but it didn't hook me. I went with Verso's ending, and I'm glad I did.
Anonymous No.721151056 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
>FFXVI becomes a DMC clone, ever since constantly chasing the action combat slop they've wanted the series to be since FF13
>E33 actually looks like Final Fantasy, is cheaper and made with a smallass team and sold a ton, director is an FF8 fan
I still can't believe it. It's comical and ironic. FF8 got the last laugh
Anonymous No.721152342 [Report] >>721152923 >>721153582
The Bahamut fight is was fucking cool. The music for this game was also fucking amazing.
Also the only game I can think of that did a gay character right.

This game did so many things right and I don't know why it was not more popular
Anonymous No.721152923 [Report]
>>721152342
All the Kaiju fights were rad, but that's just not enough. And what a let-down the Odin fight was. I was looking forward to that the whole game, and there wasn't even a kaiju fight.
Anonymous No.721153118 [Report]
>>721135920
Thank you. So exhausting hearing how these troglodytes insist on inserting their fetish and claiming it as fact.
>YEAH BRO SHE WAS RAPED FOR 13 YEARS YOSHI P PRETTY MUCH SAID SO ON CAMERA HE SAID HER PUSSY WAS GAPING NO FR BRO
Anonymous No.721153378 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Even though it's polished and competent in a lot of 'objective' ways, I still feel like this is one of the worst games I've played in my life. Its polish only highlights it in a way because it just heightens the feeling that the game was made by a bunch of suits who were just checking off the boxes of what would make a 'good game' with no actual vision or passion for what they're making.

It's like they thought if they framed things right it would just automatically make the thing in the frame good, like how they went to the trouble of having this active time lore system and a character dedicated to recording the history of the world and all these trappings that make it clear they want Valisthea to be this rich setting because that's what people like in an RPG, but all those elements of how the lore is presented are for nought because the world, its history and the characters in it are so fucking boring and unimaginative that it only emphasizes how superficial the way its presented is.
Anonymous No.721153582 [Report]
>>721152342
>This game did so many things right and I don't know why it was not more popular
would have worked if they called it something else. they slapped the FF name to it and people that bought it because of the FF name didn't get what they wanted.
Anonymous No.721153689 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
The first 4 hours draws you in, but then the fucking on rails, mmo formula rears it's ugly head.
They've wasted the talent of the KH3 team AND platinum games on this trash.
Anonymous No.721153742 [Report] >>721154084
>>721133508
>>721134096
>Old retards trying to make Game of Thrones solely to pander to what they think normalfag subhumans like
>The same woe-is-me suicide ruined world aesthetic
how to tell someone has never actually touched asoiaf and only knows of it through secondary or tertiary material like the quickly flanderized tv show or being known as the "subversion" of tolkien despite embodying all (and i mean ALL) the high fantasy tropes
XVI just mimicked superficial aspects of it
Anonymous No.721154084 [Report]
>>721153742
>how to tell someone has never actually touched asoiaf
why did you assume he meant the book and not the tv show when he specifically mentioned GoT
Anonymous No.721154229 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
It's neither a good RPG nor a good action game. Enemies and especially bosses are just damage sponges for you to spam the combo into a million times. It's sad.
Personally I also hated the characters turning into X-Men. Worse game in the franchise.
Anonymous No.721154261 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
>we want adult got audience
>long ass cutscenes and set ups with most resulting in nothing and whole plot being infodumped in last stretch of game
>boring combat based around abilities with cooldowns
>shitty mmo tier sidequests
>only one or two interesting characters
I don't mind cliches or predictable plot, but they have to be done well.
Anonymous No.721154291 [Report] >>721154385 >>721155401
>>721147120
>if he thought his pile of shit would have a chance at winning.
He had BEN STARR of course he thought he'd win.
Anonymous No.721154385 [Report]
>>721154291
lol
but I do like Ben Starr's voice
Anonymous No.721154529 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
>What went wrong?

not much. its a good game with 2 big flaws. Perfomance out of combat is not good.
And the sidemission/pacing were ass.

besides that, most haters and/v exaggerate a lot.

146 reviews, over 120 are 90+.
Its not a bad game...

one of the best FF in terms of Characterdesign. easily.
Anonymous No.721154705 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Should have multiple playable characters switching in real time
Cooldowns are retarded
Stagger is R E T A R D E D
Story had no weight
The battle theme sucked
Anonymous No.721155401 [Report]
It was high budget Asura's Wrath 2 and I loved every second of it.
>>721154291
Ben Starr has his redemption shot this year with E33
Anonymous No.721155487 [Report] >>721156614
>>721133030 (OP)
I can't even run this shit on my PC, even after mods it crashed twice in the Garuda fight. How did the team behind FF14 make a PC port this bad? Rebirth ran with no problems.
Anonymous No.721155769 [Report]
>>721133030 (OP)
Nearly every eikon fight being reduced to a short segment of actual (but generally piss easy) gameplay with the majority of the time being spent on cinematic qte wank was a big mark against it; just let me play the fucking game instead of turning every boss fight into an action movie. That and the rpg elements feeling entirely superfluous and tacked on and the gameplay wearing itself thin with the lack of enemy variety. The game has the foundation for something good, but it's all so formulaic and dull in execution, which seems to be Yoshi P's MO in general.
Anonymous No.721155837 [Report]
>mfw hate the games that /v/ shills
>mfw love the games that /v/ hates
It's not even "reddit normie" anymore because /v/ shills always the games reddit does.
Anonymous No.721156339 [Report]
>>721133508
Funny thing is that the Game Of Thrones bit is the best of part of the game then it shift into the classic FF "lets kill God" track.
Anonymous No.721156614 [Report]
>>721155487
That’s the power of the ps pentuple, baybee