Thread 722832975

Just started this. Why are pterodactyls attacking me?

>>722832975 (OP)
They’re called cliffracers.

>>722832975 (OP)
They're Riddleys you're playing a Metroid game.

Alessa (Cheryl) liked dinosaurs and the town is a reflecting her suffering particularly in SH1. She also collected moths which is why there are bug enemies everywhere.

>>722832975 (OP)
Because Saint Jiub (peace upon his name) has not been summoned across the gameverse barrier to rid silent hill of them.

Now ask yourself: why WOULDN'T pterodactyls attack you?

What this guy said >>722833304

Are you enjoying the game, anon? I emulated it for the first time in 2015 and became one of my top 10 games ever.

>>722833304
Sex with Cheryl

>>722833598
It's so fucking scary tho

>>722832975 (OP)
Because they're EVIL pterodactyls.

>>722833668

It really is. All SH games are quite scary, actually. It's not even close with other games. I always end up each play session with an awful pessimistic feeling. Need to get some sunlight and clear my head. Truly special games, and SH1 gets extra points for managing the same experience in severely outdated hardware.

I didn't really feel anything when I was playing but a week later I was walking to the bathroom at night and though I saw something in my peripheral and froze. These games are fuckin crazy

>>722833810
SH1 and SH4 are the only scary ones in the series. And SH4 is only scary because the ghosts move really fast which is unnerving.
SH2 is depressing.
SH3 is just loud.

>empty halls with real fake doors: the series
The tone of these games is good but the gameplay sux

>>722833304
damn that's gay

>>722833990
>>empty halls with real fake doors: the series
those are meant to make you feel stressed when monsters are chasing you and you're looking for somewhere safe.
I do agree it's annoying when you're looking at your map for places you haven't been to yet, though.

>>722833958
>SH3 is just loud.

I disagree. I think it preserves rather well what makes the SH atmosphere so unnerving, even if it's not quite as moving as the others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0Im48hjRk

>>722833990
That's just survival horror in a nutshell. Hardly a big deal when it's so easy to dispose of enemies either with melee or guns considering the insane amount of ammo you're given for each of your guns.

>>722833958
>SH3 is just loud.
SKREEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>722833990

I think that's a perfectly fine way of presenting the exploration. The push and pull of the game consists in making you feel too uncomfortable to advance and explore, while being teased by the curiosity of figuring out the mysteries of the place.

It fucking love it, basically.

>>722833958
Silent Hill 3 has stellar sound design but it will sometimes just blare at you to the point of annoyance. There's a specific occasion that's stuck with me, in the middle section of one of the subway lines where there's some dogs, the "enemies nearby" audio that plays there is so painfully fucking loud and screechy for no god damn reason.
Also these fucking assholes >>722834478

>>722834349
NTA but Resident Evil doesn't do that. I'm pretty sure every door in Resident Evil 1-3 leads to another room at some point.

>>722834553
>>722834301
Yeah I agree Silent Hill 3 has great sound design when it knows how to be quiet. But the closest I felt to "scared" while playing it was just stressed out from the industrial banging drowning out every other sound in the game in some rooms.

>>722834216
>>722834519
This is cope, none of the games are nearly tense enough to cause that, and enemies literally move at 1 second per hour, with turning off your flashlight disabling their AI. The only time this becomes actually tense is in SH3 when the devs paste big ass enemies in front of doors in tiny hallways, and even then all ur doing is:
>run hugging wall
>spam interract
>"door is locked"
>continue running along wall

All u do in these games is check all the doors and the surprise surprise, the only real door is the one at the end of the hall

>>722834813
>This is cope

Cope for what? I genuinely love the games. The atmosphere is thick as concrete and was never bothered by the locked doors thing you're saying.

>>722835013
Sorry, im low on sleep

>>722832975 (OP)
Alessa love Michael Crichton shit

>>722832975 (OP)
Because your daughter read Lost World and her mom put her in nightmare mode with drugs and occult spell.

>>722832975 (OP)
It's part of the morrowind experience

for me it's the horrifying yowling noise baked into the sewer bgm

>>722833990
the gameplay is what makes it scary effective thou, imagine having ninja gaiden gameplay in a horror game, it does Not make sense.

>>722833958
sh3 scariest part is in the metro

>>722839001
Why is Ninja Gaiden the only other alternative in your mind?

>>722839001
But you're already a walking fucking Terminator who can strafe around the enemies or even do a back dash with hundreds of bullets or even melee weapons in SH1 and SH2 idk about 3 cause I didn't play it since I didn't enjoy 1 or 2 all that much. No real sense in being scared when you have what you have, not denying the atmosphere being well established but the horror being effective through gameplay doesn't work all that much with this in consideration.

>>722833062
They race against cliffs, they win.

Gotta love that brick in a washing machine ambience that SH occasionally throws out. Brookhaven in SH2 stands out, every time one of those nurse abominations try to brain you with a pipe the soundtrack goes full panic attack.

>>722832975 (OP)
pterodactyls are drawn to lost children who strayed too far from their parents after a car crash in prehistoric times.
just run around and only worry about enemies in your way to grabbing something

>>722839001
If your making reference to F, you are completely correct, it's ridiculous with the franchise name being tacked on to move units.

>>722839271
because ninja gaiden is what i would think as good gameplay

>>722839805
No other games whatsoever have good gameplay?

>>722832975 (OP)
>Silent Hill 1 is about a little girl that was abused into giving birth to Satan
>Silent Hill 2 has a main character that was abused by her dad
>Silent Hill 3 is about the main character of Silent Hill 1's daughter who was abused
>Silent Hill 4 is about the serial killer from a newspaper in Silent Hill 2 that murdered children
>Silent Hill f is about child abuse
What the fuck is their problem.

>>722833958
3 feels more like chuunicore than horror

>>722833657
uhh mods?

>>722840014
I don't know if there are any mods that add that to the game

This is literally me.
I want to be a real fan of these games but every time I try to play any of them I get turned off immediately.

>>722839829
something close to silent hill would be resident evil 1 remake for the gamecube gameplay, but i assumed since people want the new over the shoulder gameplay even the re1 remake is "dated"

Eileen shaving

>>722840063
forgot the image, fuck

>>722832975 (OP)
It's a symbolic metaphor for Harry's inability to fly

>>722840108
there you are

>>722833958
1 has the jankiest combat.
2 has the jankiest eclipse segments, running through the town is ass.
3's boss fights completely ruin the immersion.
4 is boring.

>>722839271
not him, but what does it matter? horror games become a joke if you can just breeze through shit and combo on enemies.

>>722840130
get to it, anon.

>zombie dogs
>zombie pterodactyls
>zombie zombies
>gorillamen
>lizardmen
>giant lizard
>giant worm
>giant moth
wtf is this silent hill or raccoon city

>>722840272
are you saying you don't want the new SH2 remake to include hadoukens?

It you'll survive getting hit by the same air screamer 14 times you'll unlock a sex scene with them where you can select if you want to bottom or top.

>>722839001
>imagine having ninja gaiden gameplay in a horror game
It can unironically work. There where times in Ninja Gaiden and other games that did indeed filled me with dread

>>722839001
*teleports behind you* nothing personal, kid

>>722840490
Alessa had a book on fairy tales (You come across it in the school) Split head, the big lizard boss at the end of the school level is a twisted manifestation straight from it's pages. Makes sense the others are straight from her imagination too.

>>722840579
they would have to point at the screen and give a thumbs up.
>>722840734
>bayo is horror and filled me with dread
good luck in life, dude.

>>722840490
Alessa really liked Resident Evil

>>722841150
>missing the point this hard
same to you lad, thanks.

>>722840490
It's Raccoon Hill
https://youtu.be/vxL_r-0VC1k

>>722841273
k

>>722841150
>bayo is horror
The point is that you can have enemies you dread fighting without making the player character helpless

imagine modern day Alessa spawning labubu monsters

>>722840272
>not him, but what does it matter?
Because it's a disingenious argument to disqualify the possibility that SH's combat could be better without losing the elements that people see as valuable.
>horror games become a joke if you can just breeze through shit and combo on enemies.
If being easy mattered, then the SH series is already a joke.

>>722841614
not wanting to fight tough enemies is not what makes a good horror game.
you're not helpless by being someone who can fight back and not use witch powers to pummel every enemy into oblivion.
>>722841942
>Because it's a disingenious argument to disqualify the possibility that SH's combat could be better without losing the elements that people see as valuable.
how do you not see that radically changing the formula of a well established game, then asking what do you care as an attempt at a gotcha is retarded?
>If being easy mattered, then the SH series is already a joke.
learn to read. it's not about being easy. SH2 is one of the easiest game in the entire series including spinoffs and is still well regarded. you are still unable to walk up to a group of enemies and make your next combomad comp.

>>722834301
The footstep sounds in the construction site were so realistic i took off my headphones and ran to the door to check if someone was there. Spooky stuff
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7ypmx-Zz4&t

>>722832975 (OP)
I played Silent Hill 1 on my PS3 in 2010. Getting stabbed in an alleyway by knife carrying children was and is still scary. Just brutally mugged and you feel the helplessness in gameplay. They could have killed you in a cutscene or right away, but you can push the children away and try to run back from where you came. Except now the exit is blocked off. Then you die for real and wake up in the cafe with the officer who arms you. After the cop girl leaves a fucking pterodactyl assaults you just for picking up med pack. Again just 10 minutes into the game.

Peak fucking horror shit just 10 minutes into Silent Hill 1. Silent Hill 2 faggots meanwhile stroke their dicks to walking simulation and bad line readings of JAMES JAMES JAMES.

>>722843318
the sound design was top notch.

>>722832975 (OP)
they're apersonification of Alessa's hatred of school so they look like the dinosaurs she was studing at school

>>722832975 (OP)
I really really really like the pterodactyl enemies and I'm sad we never got more monsters in the series with animal/human hybrids other than those weird monkeymen from SH4

Why puzzles exist in the silent hill world? Is Satan just pulling a prank?

>>722844436
They're metaphors

>>722844436
I like how the puzzles in SH can just "exist" because of the psychological nature of the series. No need to rationalize it with "rich people being weird," the world can literally say
>here's a puzzle, I hate you by the way.

>>722844436
they're metaphorical. For example, the pterodactyls are there because Alessa liked dinosaurs.

>>722844436
it's a nice pace breaker. going from high pressure situation to having time in order to solve a puzzle.
devs used to actually try and think about what fans might want out of the game before making it.

>>722840206
Do you like Silent Hill as a series?

>>722844650
>rationalize it with "rich people being weird
lol yeah, wtf was wrong with whoever built/ designed the Spencer mansion and other locations in RE0 & 1
True psychopaths

SH fanbros, are you guys excited for the SH1 remake? or very cautious about it? or hate it and will avoid it like a plague?
For me im actually cautiously excited. I think the horror would be done very well if they redo what they did with SH2 remake, BUT im sure they'll make the character interactions worse somehow and ESPECIALLY they will absolutely ruin Lisa's design and even Harry Mason's cool design.
I just want SH1 but with much less jank and hopefully more locations to explore and go inside

>>722832975 (OP)
Because you stopped in bat country.

>>722846079
Cautiously excited because I know they're going to cuck Harry for no fucking reason, and they'll also probably fuck up the monster redesigns in somewhat. Hopeful that they'll either keep the original score as is or remake it to sound way more fucked up and scary

>>722846079
I'd like to hope that Bloober learned a thing or two from their SH2 endeavors and can make a good remake out of 1 but I don't really think they will. Further expectations are reserved for when they actually show it off, I don't like making baseless assumptions. I just hope Alessa's pretty.

>>722846315
>good
>remake
pick one

>>722846079
>SH fanbros, are you guys excited for the SH XYZ?!
no. if you can't make a decent entry in over two decades, then just fucking stop already.

>>722841098
Children don’t imagine horrific monsters out of childrens books irl.

>>722841937
And they're dancing like in Fortnite.

>>722846079
I really like Silent Hill 1 and Silent Hill 3. The Polish developers are dogshit and I will not be playing the remake. I already saw they re-envision Silent Hill 2, the original was bad and so was SH2 Remake.

I can tell you right off the bat (heh OP), that they won't keep the static camera angle which robs the game of its atmosphere. After robbing SH1 of it's camera angles they'll make the combat into another dogshit Souls combat game with teleportation i-frames like Silent Hill F by the Taiwanese devs. Lack of quality control is why I don't have any faith in the remake. Oh and the school children zombies would be removed from the game, 100% in the remake.

>>722846602
>they won't keep the static camera angle which robs the game of its atmosphere
I don't know why it's controversial to say that the dynamic camera angles are non-negotiable to Silent Hill's identity. Even Silent Hill 4 kept them despite taking away the tank controls.
If a game is over the shoulder, it is not Silent Hill. Period.

>>722846562
>Children don’t imagine horrific monsters out of childrens books irl.
what is the boogeyman for $1000?

>>722843920
I remember seeing that pterodactyl scene in a demo as five year old when my older brother and his friends played it. I was so spooked by it that i didn’t want to leave my mom’s side for a week, she got really annoyed by it. This series has been fucking with my mind since i have been a small child lol.

>>722846079
i think anyone who plays remakes should be shot dead
i will probably stop going into sh threads when it's released, it's impossible to talk about 2 now

>>722846737
SH4 was shit on so hard that even a decade plus after the release people still can't accept that the game, was indeed, made to be a SH sequel from the start.

>>722846253
>>722846315
real fans
>>722846506
>>722847239
fake assblasted faggot fans

>>722847498
fuck i didnt mean : >>722847239 (sorry anon).
i meant this assblasted tard: >>722847269

>>722846737
because silent hill is mostly played with a centered behind the back camera with no cinematic intent. there's a few spots where the game utilizes more cinematic angles but those tend to either be a single closed off puzzle room or are few and far between. the alleyway section in the beginning of the game isn't representative of how most of it plays. silent hill has never been the same as resident evil in this regard.

>>722847498
>>722847639

>>722847498
>>722847639
nice try konami

>>722847639
Absolute state

>>722847269
>all remakes baaad hurr durr gugu gagaaa.
Metroid zero mission was excellent, so was Pokemon heart/gold, Trials of mana remake, RE2 remake was very good, so was RE4 remake, and even SH2 remake was generally great minus the character designs and some cutscene directions.
Suck a dick retard

>>722847850
hey man leave Harry Chadson out of your AI sloppa, poojeet.

>>722847498
>>722847639
lmao

>>722833958
>SH3 is just loud
We're coming for you, nigga.
SH3 is actually scarier with OTS/FPS camera

>>722848075
>leave Harry Chadson out of your AI sloppa, poojeet.
This! Now lets celebrate the thought of a new remake, maybe even a few more spin offs like Ascension!

>>722848249
If the FPS mod actually had some kind of viewmodel it'd be gold. Floating guns is just weird.

>>722847705
>i've never played Silent Hill and I get my opinions from video essays
Wow thanks for telling me, anon.

>>722847705
>silent hill is mostly played with a centered behind the back camera with no cinematic intent
this negro never even played 10 minutes of 1.

Scare factor:
3>1>2
Gameplay:
1>2>3
Ambience/feel:
3>2>1
Story:
2>3>1

>>722846079

I think SH1 is a key game to demonstrate that console specs mean jackshit compared to actual vision and deep understanding of the medium. It was every bit as good on the ps1 as the sequels were on the ps2 with an ounce of the power needed to portray things, and on top of that it's one of the scariest, most atmospherically dense games ever, if not the actual king.

So, no. I don't welcome bloober's crap with much celebration. I think it will bury the original even more than it is right now, and its great qualities, which are enhanced now by the aging style of the game, will be completely dilluted.

Now watch people complain that it's not as good as SH2 remake because the plot wasn't some kind of convoluted psychological deal while the rest remains the same for the most part.

>>722848426
3 has a much better gameplay than 2, though.

>>722848315
Yeah, I only use FPS to get footage of details. OTS is a neat way to play the game, though, especially with the size of enemies who tend to be a bit hulking.

>>722848423
I read the rest of your post and take it back, but I still think you're a retard.
The stylized framing of shots has been in a staple from 1-3, along with setting up angles with the flashlight made for a strong expectation in the series.

I don't know how those jap bastards did it, but SH3 has the perfect amount of camp and horror. It goes from being funny and cheeky to being scary and serious, and the tone transition is smooth as fuck

>>722848760
What if he lick heather pusy as she climbeding ladder haha gross

>>722839934
trauma/abuse is easy plot farming point. doubly so of todays world of social media fueled professional victims that wear their made up pseudo problems on their sleeves like medals

out of them SH4 is the only one that makes truly something original.
>How would a sociopath or schizophrenic or psycopath manifest in the towns power

>>722848426
You kidding? The gameplay in 3 is superb. Actual tier list
Scare factor:
SH1>SH3>SH2 is not scary it is a walking sim
Gameplay:
SH3>SH1>SH2 is a walking sim
Ambience/feel:
SH1 and SH3>SH2 is just a boring game
Story:
SH3>SH1>SH2 is a shit game with bad protagonist

I go back and forth with 1 and 3 because in spite of how dated the graphics are in SH1, it does present a very horroric atmosphere. Silent Hill 1 is what inspired the Silent Hillm 2006 film cinematography. The ambience is a tie because I love that snow/ash weather in SH1 for building up atmosphere, but in SH3 it also nails the dread of being stalked in the city/urban areas, especially in the metro. I understand the story of SH1 but only because I had to read a GameFAQs file about it (seriously everyone should), it lays down what's happening between all factions. Alessa's mother is playing Harry like a simp to get to her daughter to kick off her cult schizo paradise with some ancient HP Lovecraft abomination God. SH3 has a very straight forward revenge plot to follow and it humanizes Heather a lot.

Also for those who care, Douglas said no one will miss him when he dies. His English voice actor died before SH3 was released. :(

>>722848249
SH1 is the GOAT because of how many things it did first. I do feel like the series kinda missed out on some first person camera opprotunities. Harry going to the elevator to nowhere is nice, but there are other areas the fixed camera could have been really good.

>>722848426
How the fuck does SH1 have the worst story and ambience? Have you even played the game? The industrial noise and harsh environment along with the story being a puzzle makes it the best.

>>722848513
The worst thing about 1 is the BAD ending and the terrible black levels without proper adjustment. Knowing blooper with SH2 remake they will have street/car lights illuminating half the city when it should be dark.


SH3 has the worst story and feel because you don't get to explore the town. But it's the scariest because it's all just claustrophobic environments over and over again. Too linear for my taste.

>>722848249
>>722848760
Looks cool for a run with the optional weapons.

>>722833958
The scariest bit in SH4 was being chased by that psycho motherfucker with a gun all the time. It gets under my skin

>>722849061
i am sorry but kurt cobain running around in circles giggling only to get stunlocked by a handbag was a lil hard to take seriously

For me it's the train subway in Silent Hill 3. Once you get pushed by the faggot ghost into the train your mind goes on high alert the entire game. I hate it so much I basically grab only the shotgun in that area and avoid touching anything that might trigger that newspaper paranormal story about the train ghost.

>>722848702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAd0Tv5X84 This whole level feels like they're breaking the 4th wall to make a tongue in cheek joke about Resident Evil, especially the camera angles.

I didn’t find the shotgun on my SH3 playthrough. What area was it in?

>>722848513
>not as good as SH2 remake because the plot wasn't some kind of convoluted psychological deal
lol, come on buddy... SH2's plot isnt THAT deep. Just X kills Y, but with extra cushion inside of it, add some guilt into the mix and then muh "representation" shit
Hell SH1's plot felt more convoluted than 2

>>722849238
What is going on here?

>>722832975 (OP)
>decided to play through all of them to see what they change in sh2 remake
>sh1 school still spooked me
Glad I didn't play that shit as a kid would have really fucked me up

>>722848975
>it's the scariest because it's all just claustrophobic environments over and over again.
True, but i also felt like SH3 had some of the toughest enemies to actually kill with melee.
Those fat slob guys and the giant guys with the long arms hit like a truck and arent easy to kill... so i ran away from like 95% of them unless i had to use the handgun or shotgun.
Basically having imposing enemies for once also did the trick imho

>>722849425
Second level, right after the mall boss fight you transition into the normal mall briefly then you go into the subway. It's on a train surrounded by the fat belly faggots. Those guys aren't scary. Triggering the hand pushing you into the traintracks is scarier so that can kill you if you panic. After the subway you go into the sewers were you pick up the pipe, in NG+ you can get a golden pipe from a faery, and you get the katana in an office building not much after. Don't leave the subway without the shotgun.

>>722849425
In the subway on one of the cars. A insane cancer(fatass) is right next to the subwar car.

OTS camera made me appreciate how huge Closers actually are. I knew they were big but the original camera makes them seem smaller somehow.

>>722848954
>SH1>SH3>SH2 is not scary it is a walking sim
based and absolutely CORRECT
>Gameplay: SH1>SH2
wtf are you smoking muh dude?? sh1 is a clunky piece of SHIT gameplay wise. How is it superior to ANYTHING.
But yeah i agree with everything else you wrote

>>722849740
Once you learn to block it's a joke. They made it so much harder because you have the block.

I like SH1 without blocking. Less things to think about and get good at. Also your forearm's aren't invincible that can stop a dog biting you so Heather not taking damage is kinda dumb.

>>722849042
what the SHIT, i never saw this.
The game was so damn dark and in 3rd person you can hardly see shit, plus on CRT.
No wonder i got so freaked out by this back in 2004 lol

>>722849649
licking her pusspuss obviously.

>>722846079
No.

>>722849713
That transition to otherworld in school level is the best in the series. So small yet makes you instantly know that shit got warped.

>>722850151
y-you can BLOCK in SH3?? what the shit, played it like 3 times in my life and never did any of that.
And it completely negates all damage??
fuuuuuuu. I even have the official goddamn strategy guide of SH3 back on release date and read through it so many times and i dont even remember reading this

>>722850226
It's really weird because with the original camera even if you use search view you can barely see it at all but they made it so Valtiel looks at Heather before dragging the nurse away

>>722850773
Yeah, it's fucking stupid.
https://youtu.be/jZ-kWQaPZjI?t=2049

>>722849501
i agree, but what i mean is that people may percieve SH2's story as more adult or deeper just on the merit of contextualising the horror and monsters within trauma and making everything be explicitly a metaphor. SH1 is explicitly about some satanic occult shit even if theres every bit as much care put into the psychological aspects of horror.

>>722850773
It negates all damage with the bullet proof vest.

>>722850773
SH3 is a breeze when you realize monsters are very slow, get stunned and have long attack animations, even the pendulums are easy to kill with melee if you know what you're doing.
I still found the game tense even if I didnt come close to dying even once except for God which I just brute forced to unlock the saber.

>>722850773
Also, the only monsters that are fucking annoying are the slurpers. Fuck those little gimps.

>>722851417
>that hallway where there's 3 of them right on top of the door and you keep falling over

Not scary just retarded levels of annoying

>>722849042
This part made me shit my pants back then. I still remember how couldn't sleep the rest of the night after playing.

>>722851136
holy shit man lmao

>>722850773
You can also block in SH2 but it's poorly documented and it's not like the game is hard to begin with.

>>722843920
The start of Silent Hill 1 until you get to the 2nd map is fucking perfect. The only thing I dislike about SH1 is the hospital and the sewers. Once you get to the lake side district until the amusement park is also perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo6IxSNJxRM&list=PLOEAs04auvidhe4R9NX5BR1NCSbxqBDZx&index=41

>>722852202
>>722851914
maybe it's a secret they only disclosed for journalists?

The best SH1 is the Europe version, right?

>>722852457
Yes, and play the HD collection for SH2 and 3

>>722850773
You can parry and riposte in Silent Hill 3 but I never did that. You should've been blocking of you had the katana. Retard-kun you should go back to Silent Hill 2, it's the walking sim you want to play while the combat horror kino Heather Mason gatekeeps you.

>>722843318
silent hill 2 had a moment that scared the shit out of me like that. the noise sounded like someone running down the stairs that were on the other side of my wall. it was the middle of the night, so my immediate thought was that something was horribly wrong.

>>722852457
NTSC/NA version. It's missing 1 memo but the child monsters aren't censored and replaced with mumblers. Also runs at 30/60hz instead of 25/50.

There is a decompilation project happening so maybe "soon" we will have a PC build that is decensored and has the memo fixed.

>>722852202
>get PARRY'd bitch!!
lel
>it's poorly documented
oh i 100% believe you on that, otherwise the SH2 remake would have had this blocking/parrying mechanic for sure. Which means those bloober fools didnt know it existed either lool

I don't think Bloober will be able to replicate just how kino the otherworld is in SH3, they already missed the mark with SH2.

>combat tips about SH2
>the walking sim
just run past it lmao your game isn't even that deep to warrant exploration about blocking. the only time you really need to engage with combat is with the hospital, I don't give a shit about that walking sim boring game enough to discuss optimal gameplay. Meanwhile in Silent Hill 1 and Silent Hill 3 the debates are the hunting rifle, a fucking hammer, a literal katana, or the shotgun. SH2 faggots follow your leader James.

>>722846079
They will fuck it up because Slavs don't really get Silent Hill since they started with SH2, they will focus on the trauma symbolism and the occultism aspects of SH1 will take a backseat since Slavs don't really get it.

>>722853252
>slavs this slavs that
Just... make them PLAY silent hill 1 then? make the entire team play it individually? lol
It's not rocket science and not mind boggling to understand.
No but seriously , i hope those fuckers actually played the game and not just watched a few YT vids of it before working on the remake lol

>>722853476
SH2 darkness vs SH2R "darkness"

>>722852369
doubtful.

>>722849221
The mansion haunted house is so weird, it's filled with unique assets, nothing happens in it, then suddenly 1-hit-kill red light out of fucking nowhere.

>>722850151
SH2 has blocking as well, it's just that no one knows about it because the game is that easy lol.

>>722852913
SH3 otherworld is legit the coolest and most fascinating place. Bloober will certainly screw up SH1's otherworld as well.

>>722846079
the SH2 remake wasn't as good as the original but it wasn't as bad as Homecoming/Downpour and their treatment of the plot wasn't the same as the HD Collections which were all done by people who don't understand a single thing about this series. i think it'll be inoffensive if nothing else, the big concern with the remake of SH2 was that they'd miss the point of every single character/scene and create a bastardization that would become the new 'norm' because of how remake culture/normies work but i don't think that happened. i hope Masahiro Ito and Akira Yamaoka will be involved again.

>>722846253
yeah the monster designs in the SH2 remake were really weak by comparison, everything was too HD and clean, none of the monster textures had any kind of wear or grit to them. i found it odd given the environments were perfectly grungy.

>>722846737
it's crazy how much scarier and atmospheric the original games are because of the camera angles. the sewer levels in SH1 in particular come to mind because there's a lot of sections where the camera is fixed above you, like you're being stalked by something. sometimes it's janky and annoying but i think it's more effective than it is frustrating.

>>722852913
Uh is this SH3 over the shoulder camera mod worth giving it a shot? does it make things more tense or more interesting?
already played the game many times with the default camera, i wonder if this mod makes the game more intense or anything or if it's buggy

>>722848760
>>722849042
>>722849238
i find these more interesting considering that the nurse here was originally supposed to be Lisa, but there wasn't time to make a unique model for her so Ito just reused the nurse model from another project of his.

>>722849713
the music in the otherworld school is so good. you can be in a room that you know is 100% 'safe' and empty of enemies and it still stresses you out.

>>722850643
the hospital is my favorite i think, just because it kind of plays into the natural creepiness of elevators, making the button to the "fourth floor" magically appear and it takes you to hell. the idea of an elevator taking you somewhere it's not supposed to or holds some kind of secret path to another place was always creepy to me.

>>722832975 (OP)
morrowind reference.

>>722856517
It made the game scarier and more oppressive for me. OTS isn't buggy, but FPS kinda is, don't recommend playing with FPS.
Worth a playthrough. And if you find an area where you wanna look at the details and animations, you can just go to FPS mode and look at it closer.

>>722847705
Lmao at the secondaries triggered by this post. Silent Hill's camera system has more in common with the 3D GTAs than true fixed camera games like Resident Evil.

>>722857449
Thanks anon, i'll give it a try on a replay soon.
I just wish the FPS mod actually also had VR support... im dying to replay this game with VR but alas.. nothing yet

>>722858534
it doesn't have support with vorpx or whatever? i know you have to pay for it which blows

>>722849713
>Glad I didn't play that shit as a kid
I was literally 11 when the SH1 was released.
The school was absolute peak nightmare fuel back then, and still unnerves me.

But, that truly disturbing atmosphere and nightmarish vibe was what got me hooked on the series as well.

>>722852457
>The best SH1 is the Europe version, right?
NO.
The Euro version runs in literal slowmotion, because of the oldass NTSC to PAL conversion method, AND is the most censored (Grey kids -> Sewer Bears, everywhere).

Play the Yank NTSC version.

t. Europoor who had no choice back in the day.
Going back to the PS1 era PAL releases now is suffering.

Here's the SH PC Guide + DL links Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/uf5XhyXz

Replaying it right now, only played it once as a kiddo

CHERYL WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU

>>722859191
Shh, she's sleeping. Don't ruin her afterglow

>>722858648
I tried vorpx a looong time ago back in like 2017-2018 and it was utter gaaarbage, so i never got back to it since then.
i dont want anything to do with vorpx.. i'd rather have an actual mod specifically made for a game.
Kinda like how Half life 2 has its own dedicated VR mod, or Alien Isolation to name a couple

>>722859191
>>722859587
lel
Yeah Harry McChad Mason would never yell at his precious little girl, just turned 7, short, black hair.

>>722859191
you should consider finding a nice CRT filter and try to keep the graphics close to native PSX, it really enhances the visuals of that game in particular.

>sh1 was supposed to have lolita undertones with Harry being called Harold and Cheryl being called Dolores but it was cut by the executives

mfw

>>722833958
Wrong, stupid, retarded. SH4 is the loud one and that's a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35K6ToDa3CE

>>722860051
>>722859191
Just downsample it from 1080p or whatever. CRT filters are bullshit and look nothing like a real CRT.

Shame the game crashes in a few places with the geometry correction stuff, even if you fix the culling

I knew that SH1 had the shitty backstep, but not that it had side step.
That's neat.

>>722860858
im pretty sure 90% of people played SH1 without ever backstepping , myself included lol
Even backstep isnt THAT necessary. You just gotta time your attacks properly and you're good for most fights

>>722861024
>backstepping
fuck i meant side-stepping

>>722833304
If this is true, this series really is fucking retarded and gay and cringe lol
No wonder I liked Resident Evil more growing up as a kid. Leon was a badass and not trying to kill fucking ghost moths

Chances that instead of being a cute police officer, Cybil will be an ugly girl boss with a jacket for some reason?

>>722861584
Officer Cyril will be black and if you complain you are a racist. Dead Space 1 remake randomly race swapped people to black, even the in-game lore ads about space astronauts with Asians were replaced with black people. And HRT bathrooms. I have no hope for Silent Hill 1 remake. And I didn't want it, it works fine on my PS3. The movie version of Silent Hill 1 will end up more authentic (despite its artistic deviation from the original source) than the remake of the game fucking quote me.

>>722832975 (OP)
Because scary

>>722833657
>>722834125
>>722861134
I'm going to stop coming here man, I lose a standard intelligence quotient point whenever I visit.

>>722861134
desu the real, actual reason for the moth is that SH1 is a ripoff of Phantoms and a giant killer moth eating a guy's face is one of the more memorable scenes in that.

>>722860858
I only knew it has a backstep because they show it off in the demo sequence.

>>722850059
There's more to gameplay than just the combat, you fucking idiot. SH1 smokes every other game in the series in enemy variety and level design. 2 and 3 barely have better combat/controls than 1 anyway.

This will 100% be censured.

Anyone got the edit of the SH1 cover with the guy holding his breath instead of Harry?

>>722862519
>censored
fix'd

Hinako is an ugly girl and Heather is a very pretty girl.

>>722832975 (OP)
Still the scariest Silent Hill game.

>>722848954
You're a little too harsh on 2. The mindfuck of the story and hotel area as a whole is very solid

>>722833958
SH4 isn't scary. 2 isn't scary though, you're right.

>>722864160
How do you respond to that without sounding MAD?!

>>722850773
I didn't know this either

>>722850773
That's actually something you learn just by playing. You never tried to aim/ready and then run at the same time when the enemy got too near?

>>722832975 (OP)
this game is too scary. I can't do it.

>>722844436
It's actually Cheryl remnants as a tulpa subconsciously manipulating Alessa's power subliminally, obtusely and abstractly as possible to hide it from both "god" and Dahlia, trying to give you shortcuts through that reality to get you to free her.

Hope this helps

Not gonna, the first part of SH1 is the weakest one, you're just running about the town getting keys and dodging the air screamers and dogs.

>>722858823
>finish the school, find the hospital
Had to shut it down for some time to recuperate.

>>722864674
just play on easy

>>722865393
it does feel like the game was developed as they went, like you were originally meant to spend more time exploring large areas of the town, but you can see those areas get smaller and smaller as the game goes on to the game's benefit

>>722865667
It just transitioned to the darkness now and it just make the town much more oppressive than the initial daytime fog.

>>722865894
Set in-game black levels to 0 and turn dithering to scaled.

>>722856998
I really like the elevator as well.

In SH3, the first otherworld transition, Heather enters a hellish elevator with some strange creature in it and Valtiel appears as well, literally an elevator to hell.

silent hill should have stay as a one of game

Gameplay:
Silent Hill f >

>>722866508
Nice, thanks. Massive improvement.

>>722866829
>another soul's clone
for that i just better play dark souls and not this gay horror soap opera donkey piece of fecal feces

downsampling or no downsampling?

>>722867090
Do you actually believe the shit you post anon?

>>722848249
>>722849042
This makes me wish they made a fully first person Silent Hill game.

>>722867469
They did, but it's a walking simulator about teen trauma.

Comfy

>>722868054
Censored in the remake. Killing children (even if monsters) = bad

>>722868054
i wasn't aware you could do camera fuckery with SH1 too

>>722868438
>monster children-like creatures that kill you by sucking your cock
Of course it'll be censored. Not even sure why that's their attack lmao.

I hated in 2 how the niggers just get back up after five seconds

In f they stay dead, if you can kill them at all, bitch gets slapped around a ton. Much better

>>722868496
Duckstation lets you have free camera

>>722867336
>1x, 240p, no corrections, integer scaling, CRT shader
>2x, 480p, downsampling, bilinear scaling, scaled dithering
>4x, 1080p, PGXP, downsampling, integer scaling, scaled dithering
See what works best

>>722834561
Just another reason why Resident Evil has always been the superior survivor horror series, then, now, and forever

>>722840490
Resident Evil enemies in Silent Hill would actually make for a god tier game.

>>722868710
>PGXP
be aware this causes a crash during the cutscene in the church where you meet Dahlia. played the rest of the game with it enabled just fine, but this one place it crashed every time until i disabled this.

>>722869481
Turn off culling correcton in PGXP menu. Should be fine, but I still get issues with the Lisa cutscene after Cybil fight. Not exactly sure what setting causes it.

>>722869309
no it wouldn't. the reason why Silent Hill (and Silent Hill monsters by extension) are scary is because they aren't just some science experiment gone wrong. they're people's subconscious thoughts given flesh. it's something that can't and shouldn't exist in our world made materially real.

The fuck, just noticed I have 188 handgun bullets and I'm still in the normal school.

>>722870869
>he fell for the survivor horror meme

>>722870132
A zombie dog is a zombie dog no matter what the bullshit explanation for it is.

>>722872736
if you're like 72 IQ and your name is Shamir or Pedro i guess

>>722870869
SH1 gives waaay too much ammo. I think it was only SH4 that got a bit stingy with actual bullets compared to its predecessors.
I didnt even bother using them in the end.

>>722873868
I kinda dig that the horror in SH1 doesn't come from lack of ammo or anything like that, but from the monsters surrounding you and fucking you up because they deal a lot of damage.
I'm surprised by how much damage the cocksucking imps deal.

same, the atmosphere is amazing, took my microcephalic ass a long time to find the way to the school when all the streets where blocked

>>722873868
Bullets can go through multiple enemies in 4 though

Why did they decide for SH2 to be a separate story after SH1?

The lizard boss isn't hard at all, but knowing that you can back dodge its maw attack and immediately fire makes it so easy.

>>722832975 (OP)
>>722864160
>>722868054
>>722866892
How do you kill enemies in this game with just a pipe and gun with severely limited ammo?
At least in Dead Space I had weapons.

>>722875676
Its an antithesis to 1

>>722875937
Steel pipe beats everything, even god. Isaac would've won if he had one.

>>722875937
SH1 actually showers you with ammo once it's nighttime.

>>722869309
At least they'd be memorable instead of boring flesh blob #28.

>>722875937
>severely limited ammo

>>722875676
Because Keichiro Toyama left Team Silent and Konami after SH1's release.

>>722876623
Does he approve of SH3? Or is he the Kamiya type who only acknowledges Devil May Cry 1?

>>722874630
>I kinda dig that the horror in SH1 doesn't come from lack of ammo or anything like that, but from the monsters surrounding you and fucking you up because they deal a lot of damage.
- VINDICATED -

>>722833657
You should kill yourself.

>>722875937
It literally has more melee attacks and evading maneuvers than Dead Space

Why did Alessa look like an adult in SH1?

>>722877575
It would be a big no no for a little girl to give birth to a god.

>>722877575
Because Alessa is an adult in SH1

>>722877916
She's supposed to be 14.

>>722876862
I read a lot of interviews with him and he never mentioned any SH sequel at all.

>>722877952
And Angela is supposed to be 17

>>722876862
>Kamiya type
Only Kamiya is an autistic sperg like that, Toyama is a cool dude still making games and had his vision respected by the teams on 2-4

>>722876862
He did say that the Good+ ending is the true ending. Other devs rationalized that most people wouldn't get it on their first or second playthrough so they retconned it for 3.
Dunno how he feel about that.

>>722879480
Nothing in 3 retcons Cybil. What was she supposed to do, stick around for 17 years?

>>722879593
African-American moment

>>722879658
Just say nigger next time, retard, and I'll take that as
>idk I just spew shit and hope it turns into a meme

Are rompers the slurpers of SH1?

>>722879726
Nothing in 1 is as bad as slurpers

>>722879593
i think he's talking about how people say that there's no way for Harry to have aglaophotis to give to Heather if he used it to save Cybil, so they say that the Good ending is the canon one.

>>722879719
You're a little late to the party if you think that anon saying blacks duck out of a relationship like Italy ducks out of an alliance is a new "meme"

>>722879969
If that's what people think it is of their own imagination, I can simply imagine Harry came up with some more after 17 years. Especially if he was being consistently chased by the cult.

>>722880016
Ok schizo but this thread is about video games

>>722880167
And you're in it saying black parental abandonment is hitherto unknown.
Why did you come into a video game thread to tell us you live under a rock?

>>722880317
>dude bro dude my schizoid babbling is actually common knowledge bro
Don't care, didn't care, Silent Hill? Nigger?

>>722879969
>>722880092
It's in the Lost Memories actually

>>722881143
Where?

>>722877952
Out of 10!

>>722881546
In the section about the first game's endings

>>722881637
so this?

>>722881725
Yep

>>722881762
Not as specific as implied especially when Good+ is literally the same thing but with an extra character
Cybil simply did not marry Harry or whatever shipping shit people think "should" happen

I almost missed the fucking emergency hammer, jesus

>>722882605
Missing the hammer is the intended experience to be fair

>>722882605
Happy rip and tear my friend.

TOTAL . S.T.A.R.S. . HUMILIATION

>>722879480
He talked about the Good+ ending long after SH3 came out. He said the Good ending was the official ending and Owaku just went with it for SH3.

>>722882605
The hammer is easy mode, it almost breaks the game because it becomes a hack n' slash game with the hammer.

My wife Lisa is so pretty

>>722882905
It IS as hack n' slash game and I'm tired of pretending it's not

>>722882905
That's like saying the chainsaw in SH2 is easy mode.

>>722883101
No it isn't because the chainsaw is NG+ and the hammer is just there existing as a straight upgrade from the pipe with literally no downsides
It was implemented late into development, so late that it doesn't even appear in some strate

>>722883178
>in some strate
strategy guides*
fuck my nigger life for clicking auto

>>722864249

Every single location in SH2 terrifies me. It's the scariest game in the series for me and one of the scariest pieces of media I've ever experienced. It's mainly due to how Akira chose a very specific soft trip-hop style for the soundtrack. A lot of the locations are tranquil and unnerving. This combined with the visuals and thematic symbolism of a lot of places in South Vale makes my imagination run wild desu

>>722883318
>Maria sitting with Laura on the wall
a scene like this would have really helped Maria's character a lot in 2

>>722875676
because the story of SH1 was self-contained and they never planned to make a direct sequel to it. SH3 was originally another self-contained story like SH1 and SH2 but Konami forced Team Silent to make it a direct sequel to the first game during development because Japanese players absolutely fucking hated SH2 at the time

>>722883318
M-Mary's bedridden feet. Imagine the smell.

>>722883698
>Japanese players absolutely fucking hated SH2 at the time
Seriously? I thought it would have resonated with them specifically.

>>722867469
Yeah, that's why Resident Evil 7 Is the only great RE since the original Resident Evil 4. First person camera makes me feel so claustrophobic and works much better for a horror game than generic OTS camera. I'd still prefer a proper old-school cinematic angles for a new Silent Hill game, but a proper FPS-mode would be great as a bonus alternative.

>>722833958
This but PT is the scariest of them all tbqhwy

>>722860447
>Shame the game crashes in a few places with the geometry correction stuff, even if you fix the culling
Good thing SH de-compilation is on Its way https://github.com/Vatuu/silent-hill-decomp, so wait for a source port and Enhanced Edition treatment.

>>722883843
>PT
>scary
pick none, Kojimbo wanker

>>722883698
>the nihonjins hates SH2
yep, im thinking bAAASed!!
Fucking SH2 is so overrated it's not even funny. The overall plot isnt really 2deep4u or anything, fuck all that BS. Good for the japanese to reject it.
It's not BAD but nothing amazing either. I prefer SH1's story the most, it's more fucked up.

>>722883982
NTA, but hes right, you pretentious shithead.
PT *IS* in fact scary as hell, that goddamn creepy bitch is literally behind your back at ALL times and she can kill or jumpscare you whenever the fuck she wants.
Name me a SINGLE other silent hill game with an enemy breathing down your neck, i'll wait.

>>722884051
How exactly is it more fucked up? SH2 is more unhinged.

>>722883975
>PSX/PS2 CGI
Too bad there are no games using this aesthetic now. Even something like Alisa just relies on PSX-style graphic, while It has cool official pre-rendered CGI models.

>>722884201
>Kojimbo wanker meltdown
Not interested in your hallway turning simulator starring 1 of the ghosts from the 13 Ghosts remake, nigger
Cope+acquire taste+I'm glad Silent Hills never happened

Rank western Silent Hill games.

>>722884465
Downpour>Homecoming>Origins>Shattered Memories>whatever garbage came out in the past few years>that PSP slop game

Choose

>>722884563
This has to be backwards starting from Shattered Memories which was the most effort put into a western SH game. Also Homecoming is bottom of the barrel.

>>722884721
Shattered Memories is a meme of a "game" where you walk around aimlessly as not-Harry interacting with not-Silent Hill 1 characters and then you run from a dumb ass blob in worthless hide and seek sections before participating in therapy sections where you play coloring book and shit
at least Homecoming is an actual game

>>722861134
She was such a fan of Jurassic World Evolution that she manifested them into the real world by accident.

>>722884692
Who's the blond hottie?

This game is good but it's hella overrated

>>722884914
>green frog
>total retardation
name a more iconic duo

She mogs you.

>>722832975 (OP)
Because this game is silent hill in name only

>>722832975 (OP)
when will the series bring back Whately

>>722884850
Hanna. She's a ghost cunny girl from a sunken ship in Teluca Lake mentioned in SH2. She's a central plot character in Silent Hill Arcade desu

>>722884563
>Downpour
>there's a DJ who's being tormented by playing music on the radio
>he's getting angry phone calls from the town

>>722885353
I didn't say it was good, it is just the least stinky turd in a pile of turds
>not a prequel
>not a movie cashgrab
>not a not-game
Just a normal bad game

>>722885064
>that color banding

>>722885474
They're called "soul waves", actually.

>>722885064
>you have to pause to read the first sentence
Redo that webm.

>>722833062
When you were learning that, I had two hot bitches sucking my dick

>>722885603
It's lacking the "soul flakes" and the "soul bind", the trinity is incomplete

>>722840373
Silent Hill 4 is better on PCSX2 so you don't get hit with the obnoxious kid walter voiceline bug in the hotels which hasn't been fixed on PC

>>722839934
why can't the next silent hill be about a teenage school shooter character like Eddie like an isolated loser character, it would interesting and relatable to most of people in this current era

>>722885414
Prequel added context to the first game.

>>722885603
Spooky

>>722886293
The whole trauma narrative is gay. Silent Hill should be cult related.

>>722883698

>Team split in half to make SH4 at the same time because Konami wanted Silent Hill to become a yearly franchise like Call Of Duty and Fifa
>Half of development time wasted on Konami's retarded idea of turning the game into an Arcade rail shooter because those games were popular in Japanese arcades in the 2000s
>Lower budget because Japs hated SH2 and the game didn't sell as well as SH1
>Entire story changed halfway through development because the concept of Heather being raped by a cult member and having to become a mother of a monster child and struggling with the fear of adulthood at the age of 17 was too dark
>Konami also told Team Silent that fans in general wanted answers to the first game with a cult involved instead of another stand-alone plot

Big shame desu. I still love Silent Hill 3 for what it is but I wish I could go back in time and stop all of those Konami hacks from running Team Silent's original vision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOD_uFxuT14

>>722885837
the games genuinely look better emulated than they do on PC blown up to higher resolutions. the more noise and distortion you have the better.

>>722886302
No it didn't, Origins didn't add anything to 1 and was a wreck in development and also written by a comic book industry cuckold

>>722886415
Nigga, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>722886415
>to become a yearly franchise like Call Of Duty
It was not a thing In 2004. I mean first Call of Duty came out In 2004, while Silent Hill 3 released In 2003. FIFA doesun't count.

This was about milking the franchise name like you said
>Half of development time wasted on Konami's retarded idea of turning the game into an Arcade rail shooter because those games were popular in Japanese arcades in the 2000s
>Konami also told Team Silent that fans in general wanted answers to the first game with a cult involved instead of another stand-alone plot
Not a bad thing. Great actually. It's the retarded Konami micromanagement and whole team-splitting plan, which affected the idea.

>>722885837
>the obnoxious kid walter voiceline bug in the hotels
I don't think I've ever run into that despite only playing on the PC port, but I've also only played through the whole game twice and it's been a while.

>>722884692
>SH1
Cybil
Tomboy cop and wife material.
>SH2
Maria
literal succubus made for James
>SH3
Heather
my personal choice
>SH4
Eileen because I haven't played the game yet and Eileen shaving

>>722884692
Lisa then Heather then Cybil.
I will also accept them all at once as an alternative.

>>722884692
Picking anyone except Eileen shows a clear disconnect from the spirit of the series

They'll have to facescan people for the game so Harry better be Starkiller.

>>722887462
nah hayden christensen

>>722861134
KWAB

>>722887462
We can only hope all those polish niggers die during development or something

>>722875937
Hit them with the pipe? Are you fucking retarded? Have you never played a video game before?

I HATE THE SEWERS I HATE THE SEWERS I HATE THE SEWERS

>>722885341
I downloaded the Silent hill arcade game SOMEHOW for PC , but it kept saying it got a virus and i just gave up on it (feels shady)... still sitting on my pc somewhere.
I wonder if it's worth playing or if i should just watch that shit on jewtube. Shame theres no real PC port

>>722887590
lol, this is almost so absurd.. it made me wheeze. Good one

>>722887795
It's probably because the .exe is created from a tool that is identfied as a hacktool by the anti-virus.

>>722887638
Yeah, and how do you defend after the pipe is swung?
There's no way the player could dodge easily like in Dead Space with truck control.

>>722853863
>problem solved

>>722888384
SH1 has a back-step

>>722888384
By back or side stepping, then you combo the niggers. It unironically has better combat than Dead Space, don't believe video essayists

>>722888640
>It unironically has better combat than Dead Space
Absolutely delulu, like the youngins say these days.

>>722888909
I agree that anon is expecting an awful lot out of a retard like you with that video, he should know better than to set his expectations so high
Reminder that Dead Space didn't have good gameplay until 2

>>722888909
Dead Space literally has no combat, you just flail your arm like a retard and stomp, no evasive maneuvers at all. Your only defense is pure gunplay, like the force gun, kinesis and stasis

Why are people still arguing about either boiler explosion or Alessa being burned as part of the ritual?
To me, the way I imagined the ritual, Dahlia lighted some candles, and used fire to cause pain to Alessa in order to make the demon grow inside her (you know, obvious evil cliche of demons coming out of anger), and then Alessa's can't take it anymore and blows everything up, including the boiler, which sets the rest of the house on fire.
I mean, a fucking boiler exploding. the most obvious metaphor for someone losing it after holding anger for too long.
The newspaper article was an obvious coverup, but that doesn't mean the boiler didn't actually blow up. What's important is THE REASON the boiler exploded, that's what they're hiding.

>>722889260
>stomp
Please don't buy into the idea that the stomp in Dead Space was good for anything except opening crates
You do 1 thing in Dead Space and its fire your plasma cutter

>>722889342
I didn't buy anything, I've played, like I've said your only defense is pure gunplay.

>>722888909
>delulu
Que?

>>722889260
>Gun play + shooting and delimbing enemies = no combat
yeah ok retard. Next you'll tell me Dead space has no conflict either

>>722886642
learn to read and stop talking like a brown person

>>722889579
>point 'n click = combat
LMAO

>>722889336
Before Origins retcon, SH1 points to it being on purpose with all sorts of ritualistic immolation imagery.

>>722886768

>FIFA doesun't count.

why?

>Not a bad thing. Great actually.

yeah it was so great that all Team Silent members were angry as fuck at Konami, saw it as a huge mistake, and wanted to use the original idea in SH5 that was also canceled. great indeed

I swear to God if those pollacks ruin Lisa's death scene, I'll nuke Poland

>>722889336
>Why are people still arguing about either boiler explosion or Alessa being burned as part of the ritual?
Dunno as well, one does not contradict the other.

>>722889856
They will ruin everything and a bunch of obese retards will still buy the game

>>722889723
>yeah it was so great that all Team Silent members were angry as fuck at Konami, saw it as a huge mistake
Retards if true

>>722889336
because people began insisting on one point due to supplementary media (the movie and Origins) without citing anything from the game itself. the boiler explosion memo being omitted due to a bug and then intentionally fixed to show up in the PAL and Japanese versions of the game implied it was important to the ritual, but people mistakenly thought that it implied that the entire incident might have been an accident. the reality is, the boiler explosion narrative is just the cult covering up the whole thing.

>>722877575
She looks younger in Origins. In before everyone shits on Origins.

>>722890812
It is very easy to shit on Origins

>>722891094
Yeah, it's the shitty game

>>722890578
>Cause of fire currently under investigation.
>Blaze now believed caused by malfunction of antiquated boiler.
This is all the newspaper article says about the fire.
I mean, the boiler did explode and was what cause the large fire and other 5 houses being destroyed. The coverup (if there is any) is for the cause of the boiler exploding, not the actual fact. They just argue it's because it was antiquated.
But here's the thing, I don't even believe you were supposed to think they were covering anything, and writers just left it ambiguous to inform the player on how sketchy the whole town was.
There isn't any mention of a sacred ritual or psychic powers or anything, sure.
But they did state they found Alessa's body, and that is something much more important for the cult than the cause of the fire.

I am attracted to Closer from SH3. Imagine the slurpjobs.

>>722891319
>>722866032

>>722889695
Are Silent Hill niggers really that fucking stupid? It's obvious Dahlia and her pals torched Alessa in some fucked up Satanic ritual, the fire got out of control and burned down a bunch of houses. The boiler shit was a flimsy cover story to explain why a giant ass fire started in Dahlia's house. These are the types of mouthbreathing retards who'd watch an old episode of the X Files and come away thinking the UFO that abducted Mulder and the ayys that probed his asshole were just Venus reflecting off a weather balloon because, well, that's what the newspaper said, right?

Why are so many zoomers randomly starting up SH1 today? It's trending on RA too.

>>722892657
nigga it's october the fuck you mean "randomly starting up"

>>722840373
The games run great on my steamdeck with the PS2 emulator

>>722892576
Actually it was a Venusian weather balloon ship

>>722886415
Holy fuck somebody burn Konami already

>>722833657
Mods send this nigger to silent hill

>>722892657
The fuck you mean "why?" Between silent hill 2 remake and silent hill f and it being Halloween month
>It's a mystery

>>722887590
based

>>722892657
I started playing today because I saw OP's thread and had finished SH3 two days ago, he reminded me of it

>>722886293
Because that's too based. They made a main protagonist who was a criminal and people bitches about that. Now imagine how they'd react if they had to play as tim and Eric in silent hill

I knew this game was Jewish

>>722844650
Agreed this is a huge benefit to the series being otherworldly and psychological horror. Resident Evil went more action based kind of since its hand was forced. It still maintained puzzles and I am sure they could have got away with making every game similar to the classic games with the puzzles but they still would have to at least try to explain it every time. With SH they don't need to explain that shit at all. But too bad the monkeys managing the IP keep putting awful developers in charge of the games.

How often does Hauntings appear in SH4?

>>722846079
No plan to play it. I will only even get SH2 if I can get a ridiculously good deal on it. Under $20 or I Just won't buy it at all. Even then I really don't want to buy it. I likely won't ever play these demakes. I want the original games back.

>>722894796
I think every time you return to the apartment post-Eileen the game makes a roll about whether one spawns or not

>>722891319
It would slurp your face off.

>>722846253
I wonder if they will keep the grey child design or go more with the mumblers. I know that Dead Space has child and baby necromorphs but not every publisher is going to be willing to put monster designs in their game like that. Going with the mumbler monster only and not have to remove any for other regions is most likely what they will do if there is to be censorship again.

Definitely want to see the air screamers and night flutters. They have potential to be very spooky looking and the sound design can send them over the top. Those monkey rapist guys can be pretty spooky to.

>>722888610
>>722888640
Armenian footsies techniques so powerful they had to be nerfed in the sequel

In Silent Hill 4, can you spend time in your apartment without it damaging Eileen?
Or do I need to be really quick if I head back to my apartment?

>>722848426
>Scare factor:
1 > 3 > 2
>Gameplay:
3 > 2 > 1
>Ambience/feel:
1 > 2 > 3
>Story:
2 > 1 = 3

Only left out 4 since you did and it would kind of muddy up my ranking anyways even though I like the game. I feel 3 and 1 are equal in story so might as well put them as equals. 3 was a great continuation of the first games story.

>>722890812
>She looks younger in Origins
That's because she's 7 years old in Origins and 14 in SH1

>get the key in the doghouse
>run around the entire map for 30 minutes not knowing what to do
>go back to doghouse
>try to enter house next to it
>"door unlocked"
The town is making me stupid

>>722897210
>Gameplay:
>3 > 2 > 1
What exactly the second game did better in terms of gameplay than the first one?

>>722897773
>What exactly the second game did better in terms of gameplay than the first one?
Controls and puzzles

>>722897829
>Controls
It's the same, maybe Harry has a bit more momentum, so It feels like an input lag, but It isn't. And combat somehow feels more satisfying in the first game. Fire axe Is cool, chainsaw is nice if you use it properly.
>puzzles
Nah, the only memorable puzzle from Silent Hill 2 Is the music box one and maybe the one with the hanging men. Everything else Is too dissociative or unfocused.

>>722898228
Do you have any actual arguments or just more "nuh uh"s

>>722898349
I did your mom

>>722897829
Gotta disagree about the puzzles.

we really didn't know how good we had it...
:(

do you think there's any way for a modern horror game to be as innovative as silent hill was? to surpass what it gave the industry? if so, how?
signalis and soma are the only games that i can think of that have come out in recent years that have come close to achieving that

>>722883982

I love OG SH and I also loved Kojimbo's wild ride take on the series.

For me, it deserves a place along with the rest of the OG games on the merit of succeeding at being scary as shit, which is the main thing SH should be good at.

>>722899382
>retard spacing
>omg this 45 minute hallway loop is as good as entire games!!!
Kill yourself, drone

>that scene where Harry receives a phone call from Cheryl
How did she know where to call and the phone number?

>>722899628
the director of the game gave it to her before the game started

>>722899734
A 7 year old wouldn't even know what a telephone is.

>>722899628
Gyromancy

>>722846079
The remake will have a singular most defining trait that will determine whether they actually understood the original game or just watched the movie
If they make Alessa an evil ghost-girl bitch who likes to murder people out of revenge, instead of a martyr who protected the world and held back literal Satan, then this remake will forever be a shitstain on everyone involved and anyone who's going to defend it

>>722854921
That is good though. If it had all sorts of kill traps that isn't really to the theme of these games. That is more along the lines of shit like the Saw movies. These games are psychological horror games which usually means teasing that there will be a scare but usually never delivering. Only keeping constant tension.

They better not nerf the hammer for the remake, that thing is perfect as is.

>>722875937
>How do you kill enemies in this game with just a pipe and gun with severely limited ammo?
Easily.
Now, how (You) do it, beats me.

But it is a well known fact that SH is mostly about AVOIDING unnecessary conflicts.

>>722883817
>Yeah, that's why Resident Evil 7 Is the only great RE since the original Resident Evil 4.
Fuck you. It's THE most insultingly awful clusterfuck in the whole goddamn franchise.
Well, it WAS, until they topped it with the fucking 8.

>>722905134
RE8 is pants on head retarded

>>722903821
The hammer is an over powered crutch for actual retards

>>722890812
Origins was the last game to make sense in the map

>>722905134
To this day I don't understand what people get out of the gameplay or story of any RE past 6. So boring and by the numbers, I can't even enjoy the weird jap dev dialogue anymore. And a first person RE game never made sense to me, it would have had to have been pretty special to justify going first person out of nowhere
Only good thing about 7 and 8 is the visuals

>>722905134
Filtered. 8 is trash

>>722832975 (OP)
@grok wtf are those dinosaurs in silent hill 1
>Childhood fears. A flying, shrieking thing straight out of a kid’s nightmare. Alessa was obsessed with fantasy creatures (you can find children’s drawings of winged monsters in her school). The Air Screamers could easily come from those drawings—turned grotesque and real in her twisted dream world.
>Loss of control / invasion. They swoop down on you from above, with no warning. They represent violation of personal space, fear of being attacked from nowhere—Alessa’s terror of being constantly watched, hurt, and never safe.
>Symbolic “fallen angels.” Wings = angelic imagery, corrupted and filthy. Since Silent Hill’s hellscape has heavy Christian/sacrificial undertones, the Air Screamers can be seen as broken angels—mirroring Alessa’s punishment under religious zealotry.

>>722906483
Before someone shits on this anon for using AI, for a decade I tried to replay a game but couldn't remember enought of it and grok found it in seconds

This puzzle taught me what "bruteforcing" means

>>722832975 (OP)
Their supposed to manifestations of someones fear of bugs it makes more sense later on.

>>722833657
All your friends are fake and you will die alone.

>>722906856
>Before someone shits on this anon for using AI
I couldn't care less about the opinions of woke antifa trannies from bluesky/reddit, failed furry artists or similar midwitted tech illiterate losers.

>>722907070
>Someone's fear of bugs
>Alessa collects bugs and draws dinosaurs

And this is how you can tell someone only watched a SH2 video essay

>>722861134
>Leon was a badass and not trying to kill fucking ghost moths

>>722905408
yeah but it feels so good to smash a monster's head in with it

>>722907048
this puzzle it totally getting either cut or dumbed down in the remake, I've seen posts about people being filtered by this puzzle for decades now, no way the average knuckledragging normiegroid will figure it out.

>>722839934
what is the problem? do you want a psychologically depressive game or not?

>>722907345
this is how you get through life in the modern age happily btw

>>722832975 (OP)
>that primitive specular lighting
holy soul

>>722909410
Would you kindly take more screenshots like this but without the dithering filter?

>>722865393
yeah, i love the game but i agree. The intro is 10/10 but then they have you looking for a headpin lying around somewhere in the 100 square foggy miles before they decide to show you more cool shit.

i'M SO GODDAMN SICK OF BOTH EILEEN AND WALTER
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
NOT TO MENTION THAT I NEED TO DEAL WITH HAUNTINGS AS WELL

>>722910021
Why do escort missions trigger people so much?

>>722908714
Remember how zoomers couldn't figure out the clock puzzle in the RE4 remake because they didn't know how to read a clock

>>722910112
>722910112
Because Walter and the fucking ghost are massive faggots.
If there were just regular enemies, Eileen would be no problem

>>722833304
>the town is a reflecting her suffering
Town is not reclecting. She is projecting the nightmare. Town is not evil or a psychologist. It's being invaded by a nightmare.

>>722834813
>and enemies literally move at 1 second per hour, with turning off your flashlight disabling their AI.
Imagine playing silent hill on easy

>>722839934
>>Silent Hill f is about child abuse
actually its about feminism. Sakuko was the one abused and she was a bit retarded. Hinako is just a disingenious crying bitch

>>722832975 (OP)
>>722909410
>>722909889

>>722840490
>The 5 hour game from 1999 had more enemies than the one from 2025 that takes 10 hours to beat
Grim

>>722910474
This. Hinako wasn't even abused. Her dad just asserted his dominance

>>722910489
>>722909889
Your game squashed vertically, choose 4:3 in your emulator settings.

>>722846562
They do when they are drugged, burned alive and kept alive half dead for 7 years you fucking moron.

>>722910585
Yeah you're right. Had to set it to Force 4:3. Retroarch defaults to "corrected" for some reason. I thought it was a quirk with how Silent Hill renders 3D

>>722832975 (OP)
>Why are pterodactyls attacking me?
Stop asking questions, execute orders! Your legs are ok! Earn brouzouf and save your daughter from the evil geomancy!!!!!!!!

>>722832975 (OP)
>horror game feature horrofying animals
makes sense to me

>>722848003
im glad this thread is still up to tell you besides zero mission, you have some of the most shit taste ever, you suck, so bad

>>722909410
Trash
The remake better use ray tracing

>>722909410
>>722909889
>>722910489
>>722910489
>>722910806
Sir, your integer scaling?

>>722832975 (OP)
>>722913848
No idea

>>722832975 (OP)
>>722914079

>>722914079
>>722914187
How does it looks with dithering now?

>>722914187
looks like he's holding a remote ready to turn on the tv

>>722833657
based

>>722832975 (OP)
This game is soul incarnate visually

>>722899273
I don't know about innovative it seems everything good that can be done in the horror genre has been done. The only modern horror game I came I can say that comes close in the evil within games. They have their moments that had spooked and moments that made me go how did they do that seamlessly

>>722914187
>>722915809
This game is so nice to look at. I haven't played it in years but might replay this Halloween. Is there anything I can do to remove the ps1 jitter?

>>722917601
>Is there anything I can do to remove the ps1 jitter
play it on duckstation and turn on PGXP geometry correction.

>>722919207
Decent, thanks

>>722898228
no it's not the same it's tank controls and overall jankier. Harry loves targeting thin air and shooting at it even when there are 5 enemies in front of you.

>>722832975 (OP)
Interesting fact: the first real enemy encounter where the pterodactyl flies out of the fog, smashes the window and flies into the building to attack Harry is somewhat reminiscent of a scene from Stephen King's The Mist, which was almost certainly an influence on the SH devs. You can see the same scene in the 2007 movie adaptation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUSXTX5Tbg