Thread 722847272

>>722847272 (OP)
Xbox stopped competing almost 10 years ago and they've been as good as dead for all that time. And yes the industry did get worse when they gave up.

>>722847272 (OP)
playstation will be next. there is no avoiding it.

>>722847272 (OP)
>Normalized ads on the dashboard
>Normalized paid online
>Normalized microtransactions
>Introduced the game pass scam
>Mass purchase of studios for exclusivity but somehow still ended mismanaging them all into the ground
The only shame is that it didn't die with the first Xbox and instead was able to live just long enough to irreversibly ruin the industry with their practices.
I hope the brand and everyone involved burns in hell.

I can't believe they followed the exact same fucking trajectory

xbox was always cancer that killed tons of pc games and studios, huge win for it to be gone

>>722847778
This. They should never have been allowed to buy Activision and Bethesda. They are taking half the biggest developers in the industry down with then now.

>>722847272 (OP)
i want less videogames, and i want these people off the industry, i want the services and content to go back to what it used to be, there isn't a single negative and i cant wait for xbox to die

>>722848860
Suck my fat cock and clean it with your tongue you tendie snoy pc vegan slut

Roblox

>>722848560
>>722848969
>>722848860
I will never comprehend how/why they acquired SO many devs and did nothing with them
>hello dev you made a cool game
>here is one gorillion dollars, you work for me now
>okay... do you want me to make games for you now? new hits like the ones that made you acquire me in the first place?
>lol no I'm putting you in this pretty glass case with all the other devs I bought and you are never making another video game again

>>722847272 (OP)
>NOOOOO THINK OF THE JOBS
nigger, normal people are struggling to get regular jobs, I'm not about to feel bad for a bunch of cushy do nothings

>>722847272 (OP)
>Call of Duty will suffer
KILL XBOX NOW!!!

>>722847823
Finally we can call all games Nintendos from now on

>>722847272 (OP)
>The first to push online subscriptions for a console
>The first to try pushing an always online console
>The first to try pushing video games that can't be sold to others
>Bought a bunch of studios to do nothing with them
>Has comical amounts of money yet refuses to do anything interesting with their developers
>Mistreated all of their big series
>Shuts down studios left and right, sometimes they close down a studio that actually makes a fun game
>Completely irrelevant in the general sphere of people who play video games, most people only care about Nintendo or PlayStation, no one ever mentions Xbox
>They have no idea what to do with Halo as they try to parade its corpse around
Nobody who cares about video games would give a single fuck if Xbox stopped existing.

Where the AAA industry is at right now, mass layoffs would the healthiest thing for gaming in the long run.
There's a fantasy that it's all "corporate influence" and the little guys just want to make good games.
They can't make good games. The little guys were hired by the big guys, and they weren't hired for having good ideas or being the best at their jobs. AAA gaming is a sea of mediocrity because it's filled with mediocre people.

>>722847272 (OP)
>Mass layoffs, less games being produced
But Microsoft is doing that anyway

>>722848969
Oh no! Not Activision, Blizzard and Bethesda!
What will we do without all their shitty games and bad business!

>>722850435
Warcraft 4 will never come out now

>>722847272 (OP)
The worst part is that it's 100% on them, they have been shooting themselves in the foot nonstop for years now for reasons i can't explain.

>>722850530
>wanting anything out of nu-blizzard
I'd rather it stay dead

>>722847272 (OP)
If the Xbox dies, Fable won't ever be released
That's perfectly okay with me
Then maybe the other titles they've been squandering such as Black and White might be given to competent devs who give a fuck

>>722847272 (OP)
No, losing Xbox and PlayStation is only a bad thing for the AAA industry, the industry would heal overnight. Industry just needs Nintendo and Steam.

>>722847272 (OP)
Yes but at the same time we shouldn't be forced to keep them alive. Tweets like that are almost passing the blame onto us with threats and not blaming Microsoft for their incompetence

Any console dying is good for the industry, consoles stopped being good 20 years ago when the PS3/360/Wii generation released. If you still like consoles at all, you are part of the fucking problem and don't even realize it, you zoomer shitstain
here's a wojak comic since it's the only thing you hylic motherfuckers understand

>>722849328
Some companies have "Fuck You" money ie EA. Microsoft has "Fuck You All" money. Think about it: Microsoft has the GDP of a small country, how much money does the average government waste on pointless boondoggles and PR?

>zombie IPs will suffer
oh no...
>studios that aren't making games anyway will continue not making games
oh no.....

Die already jeetbox.

>>722849989
>Nobody who cares about video games would give a single fuck if Xbox stopped existing.
I would care. In the sense that I'd applaud it.

>>722850690
>If the Xbox dies, Fable won't ever be released
It's not gonna release anyway

>>722847272 (OP)
Microshart could go ahead and kill the Xbox brand and focus on managing their devs to make more software to sell on other platforms, but we all know nothing would change if Microcock left the industry.
>Oh no my legacy studios and IPs that either haven't produced shit in ages or have been producing nothing but shit
Normgroids will pretend to care about missing out on more Halo or TES6, but anyone that has been around long enough with a brain and some taste know we aren't losing anything worthwhile.

>>722850981
If consoles die physical media goes with them, and that's objectively bad

>>722847823
Microsoft dying would give Playstation a boost for another decade at least.

>>722850981
Anyone that says Nintendo should die or PC should die whether they're a tendie or a vegan is a retard. Anyone on PC who doesn't believe the Steam Deck and a successor to it isn't a net benefit for PC gaming is an idiot. They're needed, only PlayStation and Xbox don't fit into the grand scheme of things. Both would be better off as third parties.

>>722848732
The Dreamcast was beloved and had tons of great games, its failure was lamented. Xbox is mocked.

>>722851642
It wouldn't, plus, both will die sometime next generation.

>>722847272 (OP)
They pushed Game subscription pass and tried to gaslight about physical. They are dead as SEGA was at the end of 2001. I don't give a shit and I hope Phil Spencer and his cult all realize they own nothing.

>>722852794
You've been saying that for 20 years

>>722852880
Less than 10% of people 18 and under who actively play videogames play them on PC/console. It's going to be dead anon.

>>722852880
You're dead the moment you go third party, also, OEMs have never been successful especially expensive OEMs. You Snoys and Xbots better start getting comfortable playing a Nintendo console and real console-like PC (Steam hardware) or stop playing video games and get a life.

The original Xbox was so fucking good, I can't believe it came to this.

>So much internal memory it was impossible to run out
>Tons of post-Dreamcast Sega exclusives
>Nearly all of the best looking multiplats, mogged multiple PC releases
>Xbox Live was leaps and bounds above PSN even in its infancy

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nintendo did the right thing keeping its IP locked up tight and away from western influence. The Switch 2 is by far the safest console to buy from the current generation, it won't lose its exclusives to competitors (legally).

>>722847823
How do you come to that conclusion?

>>722853079
>Nearly all of the best looking multiplats, mogged multiple PC releases
The only reason Halo CE had a graphical downgrade on PC was because Gearbox was incompetent.

>>722853074
>better start getting comfortable with [company that killed their physical games] and [company actively trying to kill their physical games]
Like hell I will

>>722853502
You're already supporting a company that's killed its physical games (Xbox) and a company working to kill their physical games (PlayStation), why not?

>>722848560
At least Xbox 360 was better than PS3 and Xbox's only console of value. Also the first Xbox had some great exclusives. But yeah, Xbox should die after Xbox 360.

When the Dreamcast died I was pretty bummed but I kept playing their exclusives till the end. The Xbox has no high mark to leave into the sunset. I mean, are you guys gonna die on a hill with Halo Infinite exclusive and the Fable reboot (8 years in development)? Fuck renting DRM Phil Spencer and Series S the potato console.

>>722853621
I am buying physical games to keep them alive
Of course they're all going to try, but Nintendo is the furthest along of the three and their key-card scheme has pretty much assured total physical death for Nintendo games
Not like the demons running the company have ever listened to their audience

>>722853478
Anon, this was nearly universal across every game. The Xbox version of Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory for example mogged the PC release with significantly better lighting and rain effects.

will anyone ever step up to the ring or will console manufacturers only be sony and nintendo now?

>>722853975
If Xbox fully pulls out you'll see some new companies trying to fill the void

>>722853443
He's a nintendo fan aka a mentally ill tranny

>>722853803
Microsoft's next gen OEMs will be digital-only, Sony's next gen console won't launch with the disc drive, and you'll have to buy the drive separately. Sony's handheld will be digital-only. It's over, physical is either dying or is already dead.

>>722854074
This was already tried, nobody is jumping into this industry anymore, it's matured. It'll condense with only Nintendo and Valve running it.

>>722847778
You mean 20? Perfect Dark Zero showed how bad microsoft is

>Swallows up a ton of patents and american ips
>Dies
>Doesn't do anything with them or relinquish them back to the people who actually have a real stake in the intellectual property like poor blinx oh Naoto Oshima wanted back and nobody can do ANYTHING with it until 2102
Yes, it's bad.

>>722854468
>oh no they have a controlling stake in overhyped mediocrity

>>722853694
>melts down internally
here's your value bitch

Hopefully Sony and Nintendo are next. The only comfort I have left in this world is the knowledge nothing lasts forever, and that I will get to live long enough to watch these propaganda pushing demons slowly fade into nothingness, kicking and screaming along the way.

They failed to bring joy and happiness to the world. Instead they were crude, vile, greedy and mostly evil. They brought misery and sadness. Now they must GO!

>>722850981
This would only be true if PC games were good. So far it's been nothing but derivative indie slop.

I swear even apple has a bigger chance in creating good game studios.

The only thing the death of consoles will amount to is companies going after emulation.

>>722847272 (OP)
All that warning bullshit and what is he actually saying?
We should all go out and buy 10 xboxes?
We should take to the streets and ask MS nicely to keep hemorrhaging money?
We should make a petition to the EU to do something?

>>722854203
Microsoft is dying
A significant amount of PlayStation's sales are still physical, they will absolutely have a disc drive bundle if the new console is discless by default
Don't know shit about no handheld and I'm gonna be honest if it's real I don't think it's going to work out

>>722854275
>new companies don't enter matured industries

All consoles should die in a fire. There's no point for consoles anymore. You can make games for open PC / mobile platforms. The Steam Deck is the best example of a current console - a FOSS Linux OSed based platform that is in no way locked down and acts like a full on PC but also has instant gameplay and other shit. Install what you want even a new OS etc.

>Xbox
has been floundering for over a generation as MS keeps chasing a new trend. They could give up trying to showcase their own store and instead focus on selling games from their studios eveywhere and having universal engine and features like XInput/GameInput support. But they are addicted to control and chasing the next fix so fuck em.

>>722847272 (OP)
No...
Not cawadooty...
Please don't die.........

>>722854668
Sounds like you have depression

>>722848560
This, they also spearheaded the attempt to kill japanese/asian games.

>>722854774
PlayStation is dying like Xbox, all the signs are showing.
>new companies don't enter matured industries
Sony and Microsoft are primary examples that conglomerates can't do gaming.

>>722854774
>>722854275
>>722854074
Microsoft is the only company to enter the console industry in thirty fucking years, and they did it through wasting billions of dollars, decades of bullheaded autistic determination to continue, and failed in the end anyway

Microsoft jumping in when they did was almost a weird miracle in and of itself or else we would have already had nothing but Nintendo and Sony since Sega exited

>>722847272 (OP)
>mass layoffs, less games
that's a good thing. Good old games won't go anywhere
>content and services scaled back
that's a good thing. Games are too bloated these days, kill live-service games

>>722847778
>exclooosives are good akshully
Fpwp

>>722847272 (OP)
How did Playstation win so hard

>>722855182
>conglomerates can't do gaming
Sony has proven that wrong for 30 years, how can you say it's a primary example with a straight face

Its funny watching the industry kill itself through bureaucracy, greed and mismanagement.

>>722855373
Sony has not made (1) good game

>>722855182
Who said anything about conglomerates

>>722847272 (OP)
Yes, less competition is bad. When the big companies get cocky, it is significantly worse for the consumer.
Nintendo is in their arrogant phase coming off the Switch, before that it was Sony.

>>722855216
To me, Sony and Microsoft proved that conglomerates don't understand gaming and their cult-like fanbases are retarded.

>thread about Xbox
>immediately making it about Playstation and Nintendo
Xbox fags are so fucking pathetic holy shit. Literally trying ME TOO.

>>722855610
>and their cult-like fanbases are retarded.
Reddit /r/Steam and /v valve/ Vegan would know a lot about cult like fanbase behavior. There are still Valve warriors out there fighting for VR headsets and the Steam Machine PCs.

>>722855373
In what universe, they spent years trying to copy Nintendo and failing hard at it because they're not a gaming company. Nintendo is a toy company, Sony is a hardware company that specializes in making the latest hardware. Sony failed to copy Microsoft's software because they're not a software company, Microsoft failed to copy Sony's hardware because they're not a hardware company. Microsoft is failing against Valve, a gaming software company because Microsoft is not a gaming company. When you can't understand the very foundation of video games, you'll never beat the gaming-only companies.

>>722855610
>>722855420
Sony became the #1 name in gaming because they let devs come to them, specifically at a time when Nintendo seemed full of hateful autism that any gaijin piece of shit would DARE to try to program a game for a Nintendo console

Sega was never that great a company either but they had their moment in the sun just for not being Nintendo, Nintendo made it that hard for devs to work with them

>>722853364
>right thing keeping its IP locked up tight and away from western influence
Luigi's Mansion, Metroid, etc

>>722855897
>Sony became the #1 name in gaming because they let devs come to them
It was mostly because CDs were really fucking cheap compared to cartridges and it was really hard to make multiplat games at the time, so if you could only release your niche game on one platform Playstation was an easy choice because the low cost of the system meant it had a wide install base

>>722855424
I did, Sony doesn't understand gaming and Microsoft doesn't understand gaming. Netflix, Google, Apple, Amazon, they all tried and they all failed because they don't understand gaming. They just got in or tried to get in because they saw it as the next hot shit.

>>722855703
Nintendo and Valve have an earned cult because of their unique identity, PlayStation and Xbox are nothing but brands with paid shill.

>>722855615
>Xbox is dying
>make comparisons with PlayStation which is also dying
>making a point that Nintendo and PC are the future
People are just sighting that gaming is healing without the Xbox or PlayStation shitting it up.

>>722853694
The 360 was chinkshit and normalized a bunch of awful APIs for a few years.
It was the most rapid race to the bottom of any console gen out there when it came to degrading the quality of games released on the platform as well as any multiplats that it had on other platforms, even if those multiplats were on PC first, such as the drop in quality from Crysis to Crysis 2 and so on.

>>722856005
OK
But I wasn't talking about that, so why did you start

>>722855897
It was because of CDs

>>722856303
Because I can, Sony and Microsoft are detriments to gaming as a whole.

>>722856002
It wasn't just that the CDs were cheaper, Nintendo also made themselves the only manufacturer of the cartridges (including suing into oblivion anyone else who tried) and forced devs to pay them (up to $20 per unit) for the privilege of leasing their machinery to publish third party games for them

The CD format never had such limitations because it was developed by consensus by a consortium of virtually every electronics manufacturer on earth in the first place (oddly enough, including Microsoft and Sony, decades before either ever considered making a video game)

>>722856259
>leave Nintendo as the sole leading company in the industry
>healing
This is in fact the last thing the industry needs

>>722847272 (OP)
Make good games and success will follow. Simple as.

>>722856280
Microsoft nearly fucked the FPS, TPS, RTS, and RPG genres beyond repair that gen.

>>722856421
If all you wanted to do was go on an autistic rant why did you have to rope me into it by replying to me

>>722856464
Nope, Nintendo and Valve is exactly what this industry needs, it's time for a paradigm shift.

It doesn't matter now, the damage has been done.

>>722856549
Because I can

>>722847272 (OP)
Lack of exclusives forever killed Xbox

>>722847272 (OP)
Mass layoffs from what studios? Like, would i care if I dont get anymore Activision/Blizzard games?

>>722856461
Yeah, I just think its funny that there's this reputation of Sony making these uber powerful consoles compared to Nintendo when really the two most popular Playstation consoles were bargain bin budget kings with the weakest cheapest hardware, but that also meant it was affordable for both consumers and publishers/developers. For the price of an N64 and one game you could probably walk out of the same store with a PS1 and a dozen decent games from the $5 bargain bin. It was truly a better time to be an idort, I miss when consoles all had unique benefits and libraries like that.

>>722847272 (OP)
Yes. I will never forgive those mutts for making paid online popular.

>>722850981
Sorry, but if that happens, then physical gaming dies for good. That's not acceptable under any circumstances.

>>722852738
>tons of great games
>sonic 1
>sonic II
>sonic adventure
>blue vs red sonic

>>722856461
>forced devs to pay them (up to $20 per unit) for the privilege of leasing their machinery to publish third party games for them
This was one of the greediest things any company has ever done in any industry, and Nintendo was able to do it because they literally had over 90% market share between 1985 and 1990

>>722854774
Xbox is dying. Microsoft is doing fine

>>722847272 (OP)
Xbox and PlayStation leaving would be fantastic for the industry
More games would be produced and costs could fall as they aren't trying to make games that need unnecessary crap like voice acting and realistic graphics to impress a casual audience that's getting sick of your shit anyway.
Also why is this guy acting like Minecraft would be harmed like it didn't sell most of its units on PC and Switch?

>>722857609
This, if anything, going fully third party and dropping Xbox and PlayStation completely would save Microsoft's and Sony's gaming ventures because the big corps. would no longer be that interested in it, and they're games would go back to pre-7th generation era with more outsourcing to smaller studios. Hell, dead IPs could make a return from the grave with no inclusive shit shoved in it. Devs would become more interested in the tech in Nintendo's and PC's hardwares instead of trying to make high-budget movies.

>>722848560
Most of that was Sony though. Especially when it comes to paid online, sure MS had it first but almost no one paid it between free weekends and tut copious amounts of trials and gold codes you'd get with dewritos.
Then Sony became the number 1 console again, they merged ps+, which also predates Gamepass so you thank them for that, with their online service and slowly but surely free weekends and such died off.

>>722847823
You wish, tendietroon.

>>722847272 (OP)
>Less games being produced
More like less shit games being produced

722856259
I'm not debating 1000 dollar graphic cards or AAA games that run like shit on your glorious Plebbitor PC. Thanks for being concerned about Sony, but they're doing fine. Back to the thread at hand, total Xbox death and you renewing ShitPassDRM Pass.

>>722856609
You are aware of Nintendo's long and aggressive history of anti-consumer practices and unapologetic hatred for their own fanbase right

>>722847272 (OP)
Accelerate

>>722857908
You are delusional if you think them going third-party would magically make any of this happen

>>722847823
PS5 gen was literally the most profitable one for Sony yet. You are coping.

>>722847272 (OP)
>they're totally going to stop putting money into the CoD and Minecraft moneyprinter guys
What a retard.

>>722847272 (OP)
americans speedrunning killing an entire industry with nepotism is pretty impressive
hollywood held out for decades

>>722858170
You say this like this is a bad thing. They and you deserve it. Your excuse is always some worthless competition garbage while shitting bricks on if and when Nintendo takes over console gaming and Valve takes over PC gaming. Here's the problem though, WHERE IS THE COMPETITION? Sony and Microsoft don't compete, they take what's good about gaming and destroy it while retards like you defend them. You shit on anyone who dares want the PlayStation or Xbox of pre-7th gen to come back, you're a cancer, Microsoft and Sony are a cancer. Gaming would be dead without Nintendo or Valve, it's time for Sony and Microsoft to go. You should just shut up and deal with Nintendo and Valve, or do everyone else's who are REAL gamers a favor and get the fuck out.

>I'M A TOTALLY NEUTRAL PARTY IN THIS THREAD
>SONY WILL DIE SONY NEXT ME TOO SONY WILL DIE
You can't even buy an Xbox in the majority of retailers worldwide. New game announcements are typically just Switch, PS5, and PC. lol, look that up.

>>722858170
>You are aware of Nintendo's long and aggressive history of anti-consumer practices and unapologetic hatred for their own fanbase right
Why do you think he's supporting them? It's like one point long.

>>722847823
How retarded do you have to be to believe this? Normalfag cattle needs a box to play their live service shit on, and those types of normalfags are not smart enough to use a computer.
What incentive would Sony ever have to stop taking their money?
>weeeelll you seee I don't careee about consoles anymore so nobody elseeee doesss
Kill yourself.

>>722858294
True, I may be asking too much from Sony and Microsoft, they're never giving me the PS1, PS2, PSP, or OG Xbox ever again. Hell, even some aspects of the 360, PS3, Vita, and early PS4 and Xbone before 2016 was better than what we have now.

>>722847272 (OP)
Those all sound like good points.

>>722852738
Dreamcast was a failure, objectively. Just because you liked playing crazy taxi doesn't magically change that.

>>722851521
Halo has been dead for 15+ years. ES6 is gonna blow ass.

>Fable remake (in development for 8 years)
>Perfect Dark reboot (cancelled, 7 years in development, self named quadruple "AAAA" studio was shuttered as well)
>Halo Infinite was a planned 10 year roadmap of content game, left to rot after 3 seasons of content
>Activision and Bethesda acquisition JUST FUCK UP MY LIFE
yeah total Xbox death, love to see it.

>>722858883
Why can't you read?

>>722847272 (OP)
technically yes, but the whole industry has been anti-competitive since the 8th generation when they saw the ps4 doing well. If we had actual console wars again the industry would be much better off. Basically >>722847778 fpbp

>>722852714
nice try, tendoid. your dogshit is the worst of all.

>>722847778
Gaming got bad when PlayStation entered, it got worse when Xbox entered. PlayStation and Xbox should have died during the 7th generation, honestly.

>>722847272 (OP)
Minecraft already suffered, shit like shit sniffler, warden, axolotl are pure atrocity and war crimes.

very fitting they discuss games in terms of value instead of quality

>>722858516
>point out the big, obvious, glaring problem with Nintendo
>this means I'm a PS/Xbox bootlicker something something buzzword soup
OK

>>722858683
It's already happening. Sure they hit 80m units* but it's not like they're shifting software and that's the most important part.

>>722859652
Nintendo isn't the one actively destroying console and PC creativity and innovation, Sony and Microsoft are doing that, thus why Nintendo and Valve had to take the market back from them. We don't need Xbox, we don't need PlayStation, and we certainly don't need YOU.

>>722859838
You know he's just going to say
>W-what about the patents...

>>722859793
If you don't like Nintendo, you get a PC, if you don't like PC, you get a Nintendo console, it's best to have both. You go Sony or Microsoft, you're actively working to destroy the game industry. Nintendo and Valve are tolerable, Sony and Microsoft aren't.

>>722847272 (OP)
>less games
nothing of value will be lost

>>722859838
the last tendie product worth owning is a hacked 3ds. switches and nu-tendieslop games are for faggots and toddlers

>>722860153
Yes I get it you have Miyamoto's rotting cock in your mouth because Mario was your first video game

>>722860243
Look dude, you can just admit you don't like video games

>>722860394
I've finished 52 video games this year. how about you?

>>722859838
>actively destroying console and PC creativity and innovation
Sounds like a certain company selling Wii remasters for 70 dollars

>>722860434
Sure you did.

>>722860498
I don't think Demon's Souls was on the Wii.

Elon Musk should make a new console

He can call it the Xbox

>>722850981
i miss when the dumb ass vortex memes were posted here daily

>>722847272 (OP)
Microsoft is literally to big to fail, why do they care that this small ass division is costing them a couple hundred million dollars?

>>722847272 (OP)
who gives a shit
t. (e)x-bro

>>722847272 (OP)
MS is cloud + AI and maybe windows. They couldnt really give a fuck about xbo at this point.

xbox is not dying
consumers are just poor and keep complaining as prices rise
companies are all greedy (breaking news) and are trying to catch on with inflation and general recession

>>722860243
Only Nintendo hardware and PC are worth owning, what does Xbox and PlayStation offer that these platforms don't?

It’s crazy how thrilled tendies are to pay even more for their 5 hour games lmao
Holy shit.

>>722860281
Sounds like you're just coping

>>722849328
>I will never comprehend how/why they acquired SO many devs and did nothing with them
Sometimes I wonder if the goal was to decimate the industry.

>>722861625
they offer nothing a PC doesn't and i'd never suggest buying either. however they both still have a better selection of games than Nintendo.
>>722860434
i accept your concession.

>>722860498
Nintendo didn't actively challenge PC gaming (Sony) or try to forcefully control it to turn it into their console (Microsoft).

>>722847272 (OP)
Xbox should never have been, if only the whole staff died with it i could cope a little

>>722861684
Sounds like you can't accept that Nintendo is just as shitty, if not more so, than the companies you personally hate

>less money bad
Movies and video games are fucking crippled by overinflated psycho budgets. These retards put all their eggs into one 200-500 million dollar basket (before marketing costs) and need the game/film to make nearly a billion to break even (and fund the next project with an even bigger budget) so of course it needs to be as mass appealing as possible. Make 20 niche games/films with a 1-10 million dollar budget like they fucking used to and watch good shit be made again. It's genuinely that simple. You get smaller teams, which means more focused visions, you get quicker release times since you're not employing 15 thousand developers per project and are not attempting to create everything and anything in your single product which resulte in a 8-12 year development/production cycle, and you don't need 17 layers of think tank groups to scientifically create the most brainless common denominator game/film on your pay roll.

>>722847272 (OP)
Nooooo not the coderino, the minerino

>>722861692
kek french bigest video game TV just got bought by american to anounce they will close it.
it's alway about maximising profit, even if they look and act retarded to confuse you

>>722861724
>they both still have a better selection of games than Nintendo
What games do they have that isn't a shitty ass woke movie that is creative, innovative, and PUSHES THE HARDWARE TO ITS LIMITS?

>>722847272 (OP)
I'd pay money to watch blizzard die.

>>722862146
>PUSHES THE HARDWARE TO ITS LIMITS
anyone can do that with Nintendo specs

>>722862280
So you're saying Sony doesn't have any games.

>>722861625
Let me know when someone besides you and Redditors asked about what you think the gaming market should be. The free capitalist market decides. The consumer decides. Like the market that ignored PC Valve Vegan Steam Machines, Steam VR, and Steam Deck. All sold less than the Wii U and PS Vita.

Valve. Vegan. Pleddit. Moment.

>>722861692
>Sometimes I wonder if the goal was to decimate the industry.
Hi-Fi Rush was a critical and financial success, yet the studio still got shitcanned.
So yes, I feel that Microsoft had genuine malicious intentions.

Total crickets from me, to be quite honest. Xbox has served their most loyal customers nothing but mediocrity for the past 12 years, so I'm over it. I'm at the point of total apathy.

>>722861951
They make fun VIDEO GAMES, they're not trying to turn games into movies.

>>722847272 (OP)
>Minecraft will suffer
how?

>>722862594
The xb series xs controller has one of the better d-pads on the market. I've never owned any xbox but I bought a few xs controllers for PC gaming...

Worst thing that will probably happen is Sony scooping up a lot of shit as console exclusives for cheap uncontested, we can only hope that developers consider PC sales to be worth whatever signing bonus they're offered.

>>722862428
fuck Sony too

>>722862280
Exclusives uses near every tech in Nintendo's consoles which is why their games end up being impressive. The Half-Life 3 leaks are showing that Valve is pushing the PC tech to its limits on what they can do with a game. Sony and Microsoft don't give a shit about this or should I say, stopped giving a shit about this and started to only make the most generic, easy movie games with one goal, the graphics must be as realistic as possible and all the gameplay must be ironed out because cutscenes are more important.

>>722847272 (OP)
why should I care about the yapping of some pajeet in shitter?
>inb4 Strickland
look at his photo, he's jeet-coded

>>722847272 (OP)
Sony will go wild thinking they have a monopoly

>>722859706
This is the stone cold truth. Nintendo, Sega, Atari, etc. might have been fucking retards at times but they were still primarily gaming companies at the end of the day. For Sony, it was just another division among many.

>>722862465
Gaming was better for all when Nintendo and PC owned it, the moment PlayStation and Xbox entered, eastern and western gaming slowly rotted. PlayStation or Xbox becoming market leaders was always going to be disastrous because of Sony's and Microsoft's nefarious plans for the game's industry. Glad, PlayStation and Xbox are finally collapsing.

>>722852714
The Steam Deck is irrelevant. 99% of the planet probably doesn’t even know it exists. And only 1/20th of that 1 precent actually bought one.

>>722847823
Nah we need the PlayStation for retarded adults. PC is for average and better adults, Switch for children.

>>722848732
Was the Genesis really an overwhelming success? Seems like only the kids with divorced parents had them.

>>722862636
Oh, DO they make fun video games? 'Cause all I'm seeing from them is the same open-world slop and half-baked sequels plaguing the rest of the AAA industry.
And how 'bout that release frequency, huh? How long's it taking Prime 4 to come out? How long has it been since Mario Odyssey?
Tears of the Kingdom was mostly an asset flip, and it still took six years to release.
Splatoon 2 took two years, but for some reason Splatoon 3 took five.
And we don't even need to talk about the quality content rolling out of the Pokémon franchise.

>>722863452
Steam Deck has sold around 7 million units, I wouldn't really call that irrelevant. It's a growing market that will grow further once the successor enters. This saves PC gaming from entering in the high-end death trap.

>>722863578
We don't need the PlayStation at all

>>722863726
nta but why do I get the feeling you don't play nintendo games yet think yourself a critic of them

>>722863726
Nintendo makes games first, story later, as it should be.

>>722847272 (OP)
None of that is my problem.

>>722863578
PC vegan by the way.

>>722847272 (OP)
The industry would be 1000% better if Sony, Nintendo and Xbox all died simultaneously.

>>722863838
Normie retards are too dumb to figure out PCs but still want games that aren't completely infantile like what Switch offers, that's what playstation is for.

>>722847272 (OP)
>lists supposed problems that will occur if Xbox disappears
>all of them are actually good things
What did he mean by this?

>>722864013
we dont need playstation >>722766523

>>722863960
Your inferiority complex is showing, consoletard.

>>722863915
Post-Iwata Nintendo makes profit first, games second, like everyone else

>>722864423
You're failing to understand that not everyone has stunted development and wants games for babies.

>>722848560
Halo did this.

>>722864632
Halo was a victim too, it was going to be much better as a Mac/PC game before Microsoft bought Bungie and made them dumb it down for Xbox.

gamepass + work on licensing handheld + multiple new console partners

>>722863681
was outselling the snes in the west for most of the gen

>>722864461
Okay PC vegan. Have fun with your echo chamber Redditor PCMR circlejerk, reply to me when Steam Machines, Valve VR, and Steam Deck have sold more units than either PS Vita or Wii U.

>>722847272 (OP)
fuck microsoft they've been awful for the industry at large
we deserved a future with a dreamcast 2 instead of xbox

>>722847272 (OP)
it barely feels like they're even alive now so i doubt much will change

>>722864606
right, because grown ups are all about gambling on FIFA and engaging in brain dead gameplay with movie "games"

we dont need playstation

>>722848732
The Sega System wasn't Sega's first atempt, the SG-1000 was.

>>722766523
both Astro Bot and DKB are the kind of short, piss easy, frictionless games you knock out in between playing something actually good

>>722862814
I will admit that the controllers are great, but there are so many high-quality (and downright better) clones on the market now, that we don't need Microsoft to produce them anymore.

>>722857986
>sure MS had it first but
And that is enough in my book to pin it all evils the other anon mentioned, no buts of sorts can save its ass
To quote the KEEP SAYING IT eceleb, "Thank you, Microsoft- thank you for insporing your competitors to sink to your level"

>>722865224
>fun games are LE BAD
what do you recommend, o wise negro?

I heard Microsoft are being extra Jewish lately but why are people acting like anything is confirmed or actually happening. 100% there will be a new Xbox and 100% the majority same people bought the last one will buy the next one.

>>722847272 (OP)
it would be the best thing for the industry
reminder the console wars started from M$ shitting out the 360

>>722847272 (OP)
Sony won the console war, and it's a pretty hollow victory.

>Is Xbox dying a bad thing for the industry?
>started the bullshit pc hybrids shit
>started pay to play on consoles
>ruined exclusives
>always shit controller
no its not bad

>>722865374
the games i've played over the past couple months are
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter remake
>Disgaea 1, 2, and 5
>FF Stranger of Paradise
i would recommend all of them

>>722857986
>Most of that was Sony though. Especially when it comes to paid online, sure MS had it first
holy hell saars

Nintendo and PC players will be fine
Playstation ownerss will get raped dry by Sony

>>722847272 (OP)
What did Microsoft ever do that was GOOD for gamers?

>>722847272 (OP)
Yeah. This last generation already showed what happens when Sony feels like it has no competition. Making that permanent is worse for everyone

>>722847272 (OP)
Xbox just tried to raise the prices of their shitty games to 80 dollars with The Outer Worlds 2 before backing down and instead raising their shitty subscription to $30 instead, lmfao. Fuck em, I love the Xbox and 360, but they haven't made shit I care about in over a decade.

>>722865716
nta but
>played disgaea 1 years ago
>still tired of the grinding
wait more exactly.. was in 2021

>>722865203
Yeah and it was a glorified ColecoVision that got released the same day as the Famicom so it's got shit kicked in, Sega had to make a new box to compete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUFgy6aVgbw

MS turned Minecraft into cynical nickel and dime e-shop. Upselling starts from the second you launch the game.
Same with Call of Duty.
Would be fantastic if these companies would actually suffer and go down.
And who the fuck is that twitter faggot anyway? Everyone's got an opinion just because it's on twitter doesn't make it any better.

>>722865836
They let Bioware do their own thing so we got Mass Effect

>>722865836
well there was a few months you could play games on demand from the usb without getting banned without buying them

>>722847272 (OP)
>less games being produced

This is actually good, there's too much shit to keep up with. Also one less platform developers have to port their stuff to.

>>722865993
same shit as always in this shithole
it at least was a real opiniong from somebody here and not a e-retard

>>722866047
>there's too much shit to keep up with.
stop playing every shit game released
there isn't even 2 games per year worth playing anymore

>>722847272 (OP)
Absolutely. Microsoft is a better publisher than they are a hardware dev.

>>722848732
Dreamcast was actually good though, just outclassed by the sheer momentum of the PS2.

>>722865934
yeah it's hard to recommend D1 without speedhack, i loved the story but didn't really dive into the postgame. i played the stories of 1+2 and am now playing 5 for the full experience

>>722864849
>can only communicate by spouting buzzwords
Extremely low IQ, as expected.

>SONY SONY SONY SONY SONY
The Xbox Series costs 800 dollars. You could buy a Switch 2 and PS5 for the price of that. Microsoft is still invested on shills who spammed wojak edits of game pass renewals to "own" Nintendo and Sony. The retailers who still have Xbox consoles in stock aren't selling them, they must be thrilled to have deadweight stock for years. Xbox marketers here just spam Game Pass and SOOOOOny like that's all their bot farms can say,.

>>722861692
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

>>722866269
Okay PC Vegan, maintain your circlejerk velocity. Keep the echo chamber placated, never ask why the Steam Deck, Steam Machines, Steam VR all failed in the mass market. Only popular with balding 55 year old PC fanboys on 4chan and Reddit.

>>722847272 (OP)
games as a service is bad for the industry and it would be better if it died.

>>722849328
To remove competition from the market, same reason EA did the same. It's not about acquiring the devs for their talent, it's about ensuring those devs aren't making competing products. It's the same reason companies own and even purchase IPs but then do nothing with them. It's not that they care about owning those IPs, they care about others NOT owning them.

>>722866384
>its directly about microsoft
well thats worse than i expected

he was a visionary

>>722847272 (OP)
>Is competition dying a bad thing for the industry?
If you have to ask this you have brain damage. Xbox fucked up the last generation and then cemented it by releasing no games which slowly pushed out of the market. What you have now is solely megaslop thirdparty games and sony huffing paint thinner as they release more shitty walking sims.

>>722866047
>less games being produced
>this is actually good
Your complaint lies with the dramatic inflation of indie games, not corporately funded "sell our console" games.

>>722849285
based

>>722864013
Steam Deck exists for that very reason, if they refuse to get that or its successor, then they clearly never liked video gaming in the first place.

>>722866616
All true apart from the blizzard and bethesda buyouts. Kek even phil was replaced but by a black lady, not an indian

>>722864465
Nintendo still makes games post-Iwata, if they want to make movies, they make literal movies, unlike their competition.

>Halo Infinite 10 year roadmap of support failed, this is somehow SOONNNY's fault.
>Perfect Dark Reboot, a 7+ year game in development by AAAA studio is cancelled, this is somehow SOOOONY's fault.
>Xbox costs 800 dollars, this is somehow SOOOOOOOOONY's fault.
>Xbox 1st party handheld is cancelled, ASUS Xbox handheld costs 999 dollars, somehow SONNNNNNNNNNNNY's fault
>Great games won't save Xbox, please renew gamepass this is somehow SONNNYNYNYNNSONY's fault
>Fable remake still isn't released after 8 years, this is somehow SONYOSNOSNDOSNSONY's fault
>The entire house of cards of Game Pass falls apart and prices go up as a result of their console business no longer bringing in fresh meat, this must be the work of SOOOOONNNYNYNSONY
The average Xbox fanboy here. Sometimes you see them roleplay as a PC fanboy.

>>722847272 (OP)
No it's better since americans treat everything as political and spy tool and social engineering weapon. They push many activist trash and WEF shit so its better if they die. That said japs got infected too sadly. They also brought many mutts into gaming which is bad. Less scam is better.

>>722866003
That's the problem with Sony and Microsoft, they LET the developers do what they want instead of those third party devs making what they want without Sony's or Microsoft's guidance. This was how Sony and Microsoft destroyed both eastern and western gaming for years, yes, even third parties. No company should have that much control over an entire industry. Bioware shouldn't need Microsoft's help or guidance to make a video game.

>>722847272 (OP)
Consoles and pc gaming really fell off when 8th gen started. I don't think anything can save the medium. It can all die. I'll be here playing 7th Gen and older games.

>>722866793
>He bought a switch 2

>>722867026
Switch 2 and eventually Steam Deck 2 will be all you'll need

>>722848732
The Irony is that the Saturn in Japan is a great fucking system and recently we've been getting some translations of some god-tier 32-bit, 2D RPGs that 5th gen didn't get enough of because n64 pushed 3D hard and Sony followed with the dual analog controller. Dreamcast was only on the market for like 2 years and it still has a better library than any new Xbox console.

Even with all the corporate infighting at sega and despite shitty hardware, the games were still pretty fucking cool, whereas we don't even fucking get games with Microsoft now.

>>722866830
nah
the "pc fanboy" is idort who can buy all consoles and just prefers to play on PC unless its a exclusive. thats why only underages cry about exclusives

>>722848732
difference is every console on the left got games worth buying and playing
while only a few consoles on the right only got gears of war till the franchise was ruined

>>722867320
Holy fuck. I haven't heard idort on 4chan in 20 years. PSP vs DS, 2006. Holy shit. "lol no u don't idort". The Fox News special on pedophiles using Nintendo DS chat in cars to lure children. The Internet hate machine exploding van. 20 years....ago.

>>722847272 (OP)
>"Less games being "produced""
What was a huge title has Xbox released in the last 10 years that people actually enjoyed that was also exclusive?

>>722867442
>I haven't heard idort on 4chan in 20 years
i'm sorry?
i dont know what the fuck you are talking about i started coming here in 2008 and i'm not american so no fucking idea of fox news

>>722855897
The Nintendo seal of quality and policies to keep as much shovelware as possible of the NES was in response to the 1983 Video Games crash. And look what happened when they let companies like LJN publish on their system. It was the right business decision at the time, and might even still be the right thing today if anyone was interested in making their digital stores not a sea of garbage.

>>722863395
I don’t believe you are a real person, but there are tendies who legitimately believe this.

>>722859484
>left to rot after 3 seasons of content
>of content
Generous.

>>722867969
The generations before 7th were incredible starting with the 3rd, sorry you're too young.

>>722862826
Its Microsoft we're talking about.
All that shit is going on the shelf or going to PC

>>722863395
There isn't really any point in gaming history when only Nintendo and PC owned it. You sound like a low IQ Nintendo adult lol

>>722847272 (OP)
HOLY FUUUUAAARK
PHIL W
I KNEW HE COULD DO IT
FUCK YESSSSS

>>722868653
80, 90s, and early 2000s. Sony was implanted to destroy Japanese gaming, Microsoft was implanted to destroy American gaming. They served their purpose and new era of creation and innovation is about to begin but without the PlayStation or Xbox.

>>722867605
Rare Replay

>>722861692
dark phil
was he a foreign agent?
what was the pay like?
would he do it again?

>>722848560
+1

>>722855167
also this

They should sell/license the Xbox brand to Dell to make consoles/home PCs with. Keep working on the store on Windows. Add more features like Steam has, especially the controller stuff. Sell off most of the developers and just keep one small team to do demos. Support the developers, don't need to buy all of them.

>>722868653
This guy >>722868835
is exaggerating, but actual market shares in fiscal year 1990:

Consoles:
93.1% Nintendo
3.8% Sega
1.3% NEC
1.1% Atari

Computers:
85.8% IBM PC Compatible
5.4% Commodore 64
4.4% Mac OS
2.1% Amiga

Both industries were wildly monopolized and people didn't really seem to mind

>>722869412
That's what they're doing, next gen is Microsoft licensing the APU they made with AMD out to some third parties to make their own Xbox "consoles", "handhelds", and PCs as Microsoft is no longer making them. What Microsoft is doing thing is helping with those devices designs to resemble an Xbox. All of these Xboxes will cost a lot of money.

>>722848860
I would strangle one of you Gaystation homos

>>722869823
Holy shit! We need to go back.

>>722869823
Who the fuck is "NEC"?

>>722870018
PC Engine/Turbografx manufacturers

>>722848560
>Normalized paid online
Xbox should seriously be kept offline forever after this one. I can't even casually game on consoles without having to pay online is so infuriating. It's the main reason why I avoid all consoles now. I was so annoyed having to pay for like a month of online when animal crossing new horizons was popular.
>Mass purchase of studios
It's genuinely impressive how they fucked up Halo
and Gears. Two dude bro games who both ended at Halo reach and GOW 3.

>>722847823
i agree, the very idea of a console is antiquated. Nintendo will last the longest because they are the apple of gaming but even they will start going third party eventually

>>722868582
I'm talking in the future, games that haven't been created yet. Now instead of having to pay developers enough to turn them away from PC, Xbox and Switch releases they only have to turn them away from PC and Switch (and the latter is often already out from hardware concerns)

>>722870240
I seriously hate Xbox defenders more than I hate PlayStation defenders, that's saying something.

>>722853975
Not in the condole sense, Valve will probably go into it but it will like Steam Deck a pc like experience

>>722867151
dumbest shit i've ever read in my entire life

>>722870292
They won't, they're a toy company. That's like thinking Microsoft will buy Valve or Valve will go public. It's delusions because the Xbox and PlayStation failed.

>>722870447
What need is there for an Xbox or PlayStation?

>>722870581
i never said or even remotely implied that there is one. the problem with his statement is that there is zero reason to buy a Switch 2 and a Steam Deck 2 will be a supplementary device. a very good supplementary device, don't get me wrong, but only having handhelds is normalfag cuck shit

>>722870665
Having a handheld is what kept me from dropping this industry altogether and brought back that love and interest I had in gaming from the 90s back. I simply can't do home consoles or desktop PCs anymore after the Switch and Steam Deck. Sony and Microsoft nearly took me out of gaming so anything from them I know will be a pile of shit.

>>722850232
This is the nasty truth.
When mediocrity is all they’ve ever known and worked for, not to mention always working to order and not to some vision, how can anyone expect that they’ll suddenly make miracles happen if freed from the shackles of corporate oversight?
And so we continue to get projects "featuring the devs behind X" that turn out to be every bit as bland.

>>722847272 (OP)
all that sounds like an absolute win to me.

>>722847272 (OP)
>if buggy company x goes under, itll mean fewer people traveling on roads, meaning mass layoffs
Whoever Derek Strickland is, he's a fucking imbecile.

>>722847272 (OP)
Less competition is strictly a bad thing but xbox has been kind of floundering since at least 2020 and arguably since xbone so it's hard to say exactly how much worse it gets.

>>722870848
handhelds are great but having a deck and not a pc is thirdie tier

>>722854668
Nintendo has been in the business longer than 3 to 4 generations of your family. Only thing killing them is the end of the world or a carpet bombing of the the entirety of Japan.

>>722871329
Deck is your PC, one made for gaming without Windows while having trackpads. When you get one, there's no reason to bother gaming on a desktop anymore since it fills the void.

>>722871858
maybe if you're using a 2060 or some other poorfag shit. no way am I using anything other than my pc for demanding games.

>>722847823
>playstation will be next. there is no avoiding it.
They reported that the ps5 was their best profit generation ever. Sony ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

>>722871762
Nintendo has been around since the 1880's kinda crazy really. They have existed before most of the world had cars,phones or electricity

>>722856808
This is so backwards and wrong lol, the N64 was much cheaper than the Saturn and the PS1 because it didn't have the cd drive and Sony had to drop the price of the PS1 by hundreds of dollars to compete with the N64 when it came out.
And PS1 games might have been ten times cheaper to produce but their consumer price wasn't ten times lower than N64 games, fuck those shitty discs and the cheap jewel cases they came in that always cracked.

>>722863681
SNES won market share back after cutting profit margin to nothing in like '93 and then a lot of great late gen games poured in for it, but early in the gen was Sega

>>722872492
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Machine_(computer) okay PC vegan

Not enough people realize the death of Xbox is exactly what Microsoft wants and has wanted for a long time now
It's just not something they can do overnight

>>722854774
>disc drive bundle
>disc drive still has DRM
What's the point?

>>722873587
the failure of the original steam pc didn't end the development of steam pcs
meanwhile sony immediately bailed on the vita when people weren't willing to deal with their proprietary $80 memory cards

>>722873858
>It's just not something they can do overnight
why not?
its not like graphics have changed that much in the last 15 years so releasing a new console have been retarded since the ps4/whatever was the xbox name of that gen

>>722863681
>Seems like only the kids with divorced parents had them.
That's only a meme
Sega had majority market share of the industry at the end of 1995 due to the launch of Saturn combined with Genesis' sales.
The early launch of the Saturn was still a mistake, but it did lead to a boost in market share enough to become #1 in the industry.

>>722847272 (OP)
All these things are good tho

what's the problem?

>>722847272 (OP)
what is going on with xbox?

>failing after throwing around all the money in the world
Almost biblical, gaming can finally heal.

>A world where the line does not go up infinitely?
>OY VEY HOW ANTISEMITIC

>>722853975
The barrier to entry is way too large to even attempt it without the prerequisite hardware and software capital, which only the Big3 and Valve have now

Fuck no. They're responsible for some of the worst parts of the industry.

>>722866616
A visionary shouldn't be wrong so often.

>>722863781
7 omg thats less then the dreamcast

>>722847272 (OP)
Xbox thriving is actually the worst possible outcome for the industry, a literal dystopian end so on balance it is good they are flopping.

>>722865716
>FF Stranger of Paradise
a bad nioh
some shitty rpg
and the grind of all grinds I can tell you got the tisum and your fave game is mgr or msg V

>>722880383
It's good they're failing but the damage is already done and irreversible.

>>722847272 (OP)
I want to say no just because of competition but i don't think they have been even doing that since 360.

>>722863781
Wooooow, 7 million. Look out Nintendo.

>>722847272 (OP)
no, if anything it'll be good for the industry because MS will stop spending the money it makes off of cloud software on acquiring, mismanaging then dismantling many game studios.

nothing of value was lost
they squandered all they had, time for consequences

>>722865839
ps3? the cell the best sony console that govs used as supercompters
brith of souls the thing v cant stop riding

>>722867019
no devs should be given 3 years to make a new ip and a new game should be coming out then once every 2
shit like spiderman shoudnt be 300mil on its 2nd game

>>722847272 (OP)
Yes, it will be bad. Not because devs will be fired, fuck those talentless hacks, but bad because it will encourage Sony and Nintendo behave even MORE Jewishly.

>is the soulless giant that's too bloated to produce anything....le bad?
good for the industry btw
AAA crash, we're living it

>>722880480
The potential damage they could still cause dwarfs everything they have done thus far combined.

>>722847272 (OP)
No, it's a good thing. Gaming was better before Xbox.

>>722847272 (OP)
Everything he posted sounds amazing

>>722869823
you are very jew very bend the numbers

>>722848732
Xbox was the biggest Sega partner after they went Software only, this was inevitable.

>>722847778
Xbox ain’t going anywhere any time soon, son.

>>722880962

Anon....

>>722880962
it really just depends on whenever MS gets tired of subsidizing all the gaming division's bad management and massive acquisitions with their real money makers.

>>722873920
but its just a marketplace it be like if I started sucking off amazon cause I buy games there, that is what you are at the end of the day a shill that doesn't get paid

>>722881038
Microsoft doesn’t care they will release a new Xbox when the gaystation 6 launches. Screencap this niggers

>>722848560
yeah microjew really fucked gaymers

>>722868835
imagine thinking the ps1 was anti japanese and the n64 somehow dominated in the 90s, what a fucking retard

>>722881004
Niggertrannyjannyfaggot…

>>722881114
I can believe it given how much they make off of cloud stuff anyway

>>722880247
>>722880503
It's different market, you dingus, it was never meant to compete with consoles. You retards went out of your way to put it there when it was never meant to be that. This is why PlayStation and Xbox have to go, if they want to play pretend PC, they should kill their hardware and just go full PC.

>>722881179

Anon, the Xbox name might live on as some kind of digital service, but the chances of another console are pretty damn slim.

>>722880623
No dev should be AAA, in general, Sony and Microsoft fucked the industry.

>>722881141
PS1 had one of the first AAA games because Sony decided they needed to throw their money out to kill their competition. Video games only needed gaming nerds as an audience, not normalfags.

>>722881285
Like the chance of you becoming a woman

>>722848560
All of this would've happened at the exact same time without Xbox, my very dumb friend.

>>722847272 (OP)
Mindless consumption is what's bad for the market. You niggers need to hold higher standards for the shit you buy and the market will respond in kind.

>>722881452

Thank fuck for that. To quote Mr Garrison, I don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.

why do tech companies have such an extremely hard time creating videogames or other artistic shit?
I thought techbros are supposed to be smart.

what was wrong with having full games on disks/cartridges?

this is sad, but it's hard to feel bad when based and redpilled objective observers such as myself have been telling them "no one wants this business model" for decades

>>722849989
I see you blaming stuff that Steam actually did on xbox, typical nigg.

>>722847272 (OP)
Gabe will reheat the Steam Box idea to fill the gap.

>>722881638

The only thing that fatass reheats is his TV dinner.

>>722847272 (OP)
>consoles finally get gyro
>competitive shooters consider making aim assist worst saving them all

>>722881459
Not him but if Xbox died with the original, PlayStation would have died with the PS3 with no level of recovery. Xbox and PlayStation surviving is why PC doesn't even get games that take advantage of it anymore while also being the reason quirky arcade-like Japanese games died out as well. PlayStation and Xbox are the definition of no fun allowed.

>>722847272 (OP)
>You just have to keep businesses going in perpetuity because some people will lose their jobs and things will go bad for a while
This is the problem with the modern economic system, it's rotting and falling apart but it's set up to avoid reshaping at any cost because it would mean some rich families would not be at the top anymore.

>>722881585
They only care about the tech, they don't know how to make shit to push the tech. They used to but they stopped.

>>722881638
They won't, that's why you stopped hearing talks about it.

>>722881695

>Xbox and PlayStation surviving is why PC doesn't even get games that take advantage of it anymore

And nothing of value was lost.

>>722881585
they're not smart they're autistic and coping

>>722881768
Fuck you, play the PC version of Crysis 1 and play the console version of it and you'll see a night and day difference. Fuck Microsoft, this one isn't Sony's fault, it was mainly Microsoft's because those bastards were market leader during the 7th gen. Fuck them to hell!

>>722847272 (OP)
>Call of Duty will suffer. Minecraft will suffer.
Because of trash games like this, vidya suffers. Release it from the pain.

>>722847272 (OP)
>call of duty will suffer
don't care haven't played cod since world at war
>minecraft will suffer
>don't care
>halo is already dead
>gears is dead
>got a PC
maybe a few years ago this would have been sad but now nothing of value has been lost =/

>>722881951
It's shit like this as to why the Xbox and PlayStation have to go, the 7th and 8th generation of gaming can finally die. Xbox and PlayStation stagnated the game industry for too long.

>>722847272 (OP)
I don't give a solitary fuck about "the industry".

>>722882110
Didn't Halo Infinite's campaign improve with PC by actually having shortcuts for Chief's equipment, lol?

>>722881247
Gaming is 9% of total revenue? That's fucking huge, I thought it was like 1% or something. Now I understand why the Indian is killing it by squeezing the shit out of it, his job security and reputation now benefits from meddling with gaming.

>>722881114
They will but it won't be made by them.

>>722854108
>>722858423
>>722872367
Lmao imagine actually believing this. Sony is fucked they constantly lie about their numbers because they want to hide the truth. Once it comes out that company will collapse immediately
.

>>722882535
Snoys are like Xbots when it comes to being a cult but bigger. These retards can't even tell anyone how the game industry benefits from PlayStation's and Xbox's continued existence?

>>722848969
Good.

>>722880962
You're a fucking retard for believing that

>>722880962
It's going into OEMs with the possibility of no backwards compatibility before Microsoft finally kills it off fully.

>>722847778
>>722848560
XBox being dead isn't doesn't look so bad after all
>>722881459
No it wouldn't Sega wasn't so predatory against customers like Sony and Nintendo

>>722848732
Saturn was a big hit in Japan apparently sold more than PS1

>>722865836
When Bill Gates jumped in the gaming market his only concern was to compete against Sony cause he know they would corner the entire market, he didn't think about the customer whatsoever.

>>722883924

Fuck Bill Gates.

>>722881330
its all just bloted and just bleeding money

>>722847272 (OP)
>less games
what?
xbox only makes bad games
LESS of what xbox has to offer is ONLY a good thing
>mass layoffs
again, a good thing.
>less content and services
again they only have bad content and services
this is good
>cod slop will suffer
good
>minecraft will suffer
1: no i wont lol
2: good, mojang needed a kick up its ass 10 years ago
>"derek strickland"
>looks indian
SAAR DO NOT STOP DOING THE NEEDFUL FOR XBOX SAAAR!!

Why is everyone always going on about xbox "dying" when they have been dead for like a decade? They are not a relevant part of the game industry.

>>722881330
I don't understand this affixation with AAA games, the most iconic games like Deus Ex, Chrono Trigger, Thief, Half Life even the first Call of Duty were AA games. I never seen a single AAA game make a lasting impression, first RDR and GTAIV might be debatable.

>>722884718
Xbots want Xbox to be relevant again, Snoys are bored because they no longer have a copy of themselves to fight.

>>722885002
console war stuff is long over. nobody cares about that sort of shit anymore since the 360/ps3 gen.

>>722884993
Microsoft and Sony are fixated on video games being movies. They want the global audience and to be the head honchos of video games. In all honesty, I heavily believe both are no longer out for blood with one another and just feel the need to get rid of Nintendo and Valve in order to they to completely destroy gaming now. These companies and their consoles are just too damn similar with very similar goals that it's not adding up.

>>722847272 (OP)
Minecraft has been suffering for quite a long time regardless. Billion dollar studio that can't do more than a shitty incomplete no content update every year. Even worse now since they pretty much gave up and are adding even less. Fucking disgrace.

>>722847272 (OP)
Technically yes because more competition = better. This is why console gaming has historically gotten worse as less participants have been in "the console race" with each successive generation.

Basically video games died with the Dreamcast.

>>722860153
>you get a Nintendo console
So I can play children's games?
So I can get a paltry amount of 3rd party games that look like they are from 2 gens ago?
Have you seen something like It Takes Two on switch? It's terrible. I can't imagine trying to play anything better looking than that.
Oh man didn't you see that half the fucking tendo library is literally Wii u games they rereleased at fucking full price.
>b-b-but I wike mawio
>bing bing bing wahoo waaaaa
I really wish nintendo people could see how pathetic they look

>>722850981
thats not a comic

XBOX is the Atlas of the gaming industry confirmed.

>>722885565
If you like niche Japanese games for perverts, the Switch is good for those too. I'd also say that Nintendo games are more family games, just generally fun stuff anyone can enjoy.

>>722863681
In the US Sega was outselling Nintendo up until around 1994 or so when it started sliding back to Nintendomination again. Uncensored and better looking Mortal Kombat II and Donkey Kong Country shifted the tides, not helped by Sega starting to focus on 32x development/advertisement and gearing up for the Saturn.
32X fucked over Sega back then more than they realized as they essentially handed the remainder of the 16 era to Nintendo and thus had no momentum for the Saturn in 1995 (and then Sony cut them down immediately at the 1995 E3 with the famous price announcement moment).

>>722885565
>So I can play children's games?
Video games are for children, and you clearly haven't grown up
>So I can get a paltry amount of 3rd party games that look like they are from 2 gens ago?
You get a Steam Deck 2 for third party games

Just sounds like you're coming up with excuses. We've got more exclusives, we would have games built for Switch and PC from third parties with their unique controls and they'll be made to work on Steam Deck. In a perfect world, devs start releasing on Windows and Linux at the same time so Steam Deck could get native versions of games, Steam Deck Presets.

>>722885881
>and then Sony cut them down immediately at the 1995 E3 with the famous price announcement moment
Fucking Sony, those mother fuckers already had a plan to kill Xbox in 2013, and they used it back in 95, lmao.

>>722885881
Didn't Sega die because their American branch really really hated the Japanese branch (to a degree even surpassing the usual hatred these branches hold)? Like they started focusing on how they could screw over their masters. This ended up collapsing the company causing it to slump into being a publisher that is barely relevant past IP grabbing.

AI datecenters are eating up the entire global supply of chip wafers, resulting in ever increasing costs of chips (GPU's) used in consoles and PC graphics cards. combine this with a dog shit economy where nobody can afford anything + record high development costs = disaster waiting to happen.

>>722847272 (OP)
>Call of Duty will suffer
good

>>722849328
They didn't want them to make games, they just wanted them to not be making games for the competition

The only good Xbox was the 360. Everything after that was such trash that I don't even remember what they were called.

>>722886472
>I don't even remember what they were called
They are all called the same thing

>>722886138
Nah, not really hatred but essentially with the Genesis SoJ let SoA do their own thing which led to constant attack ads on Nintendo which made the Genesis and Game Gear seem the consoles for 'cool dudes' and the SNES and Gameboy labeled kiddy toys (which Nintendo still has the stigma of even today despite Sega's library being just as 'kiddy' back then).
Some time around 1995 SoA and SoJ started clashing and probably unrelated but SoA's attack ads stopped, which really really backfired as then SONY started with it against the Saturn, building up reputation out of the gate as the new "cool bro" console. So we went from "Sega does what Nintendon't" to this weird ass high brow shit while Sony is flinging their edgy ads right out the gate. Was it SoJ telling them to tone it down coupled with Sega getting a new advertising agency? Who knows.

>>722847823
Doubt it. Their only competition just died.

>>722886801
and meanwhile Sony was doing this and also introduced thing mascot called Polygon Man which lasted only a few months before Sony Japan told the American branch to can him for some reason.

>>722847272 (OP)
maybe they shouldn't have died trying to swallow up abk

>>722886109
Yeah, they pulled the exact same shit too which was hilarious. Let MS go first (and MS didn't help by having that disaster of an unveiling) then simply go afterward and one up everything MS announced. MS should have remembered what happened to the Saturn and not have Sony be able to study and counter their battle plan. Then again MS also buried itself and Sony was only pissing on the grave that day.

>>722886801
Funny how Sony killed the Saturn the same way they killed the Xbone, by letting their competitor trip over themselves and just said the opposite while having a console that's $100 cheaper. Their competitors never recovered and both went third party and dropped hardware.

>>722887149
What's even more funny is that Microsoft did the exact same thing Sega did, they started fucking up the prior generation making their fanbase angry, they just needed one more fuck up which would permanently damage their brand if they did it, and Microsoft, like Sega, did it. While I do see Sony eventually going full third party too, it was a well-played strategy. Peter Moore truly was a huge loss for Microsoft. The only reason they used Sony's strategy against them during the 7th generation was because Moore, remembered what killed Sega's hardware. When he left, Microsoft's gaming division became very retarded.

>>722886992
these were really dumb ads desu, the character could have been neat but instead it's just the MCP's punk grandson
here is the polygon man version of that same ad

>>722847272 (OP)
Entertainment is a drug. A commdity that is less necessary than others. When the drug doesn't hit as good, don't be surprised that when you cut it to be less potent you don't make as much money or some are alienated.

>>722886292
Don't worry, Elon will save us by releasing AI games.

>>722883924
>Western powers see Japanese companies dominating the console market
>Put up Microsoft to claim a large stake in it, and this works for a time
>Later on Xbox shoots itself in the foot, but Playstation is taken by California anyway, so Xbox gets hung out to dry

>>722854680
>picture that signified the end of civilization

it's the little things that snowball.

turns out the merger people said was bad, was indeed bad

>>722852738
Sega was hated at the time

>>722883924
It was because Sony was using Linux on the PlayStation, that's literally it, lol.

>>722867790
It's weird how people today think the Seal meant anything more than "Nintendo gave the okay to publish this". There was no game quality control other than "this shit better not crash constantly". Companies like LJN, Bandai, and Acclaim were putting out stinkers on the system soon after it's US launch. As long as it ran and Nintendo got their cut then it got the seal.

Sega had a seal too in the early years of the Genesis but nobody seems to remember it.

>>722887749
I think there used to be some kind of laws against too many mergers happening since people knew they were economically destructive, but, well.

>>722883594
No. The Saturn sold around 6 million in Japan. The PS1 sold was closer to 22 million.

>>722887448
There was this little neat thing PS1 ads did for the first year or so when their ads would hide codes within the graphics or text so it gave people a reason to study them and thus imprint on them better. Cant' find any scans at the moment because search engines are garbage now but I remember the Ridge Racer one hiding how to play on the mirrored tracks and Twisted Metal had some code edited into a screenshot.

>>722886138
No, Sega died because their corporate benefactors in Japan literally passed away.
Sega had been receiving funds from an undisclosed and very wealthy source which is how they were even able to operate at the level they did internationally.
Just as an example, Sega's upper management had ties with the Japanese automotive industry, in particular Honda, who was supplying the engines for McLaren's F1 team. That lead to a meeting with Ayrton Senna, and with his input they developed Super Monaco GP 1 and 2 for the Genesis. But that wasn't all, they also sponsored the 1993 Donington F1 Grand Prix at a level that made Phillip Morris look positively Mormon.
Yu Suzuki and several other rock star developers who had proven themselves in the '80s when the economy was booming were basically allowed to do whatever they wanted. Sega was run by the Japanese equivalent of frat boys playing with daddy's money and it was basically doomed to fail.

>>722858496
they say kikes are greedy but introduce capitalism to a white goy and he will run it to the ground trying to squeeze every last juice out of it.

>>722888819
Remind me again, who was the guy who got sued in a precedent-setting case by shareholders for running the company in the interest of employees and customers instead of maximizing profits?
And what was the logo of the guys who sued him?

>>722889046
Delete this fucking post goy.

>>722886992
Actually read up on the mascot now that I posted that. Ken Kutaragi objected to the character because he felt the Playstation could be advertised in a minimalist style, essentially "It's from Sony, so buy it". The hubris was there from the very start, essentially.

>>722848732
This is fucking insulting, Sega never tricked people into buying a console that could randomly fry itself

>>722883594
Just like the Xbox one in India

>>722888387
Holy shit, Xbox really is Sega reborn, lmao

>>722847272 (OP)
>Call of Duty will suffer
>Minecraft will suffer.
Don't fucking threaten me with a good time.

>>722881459
Sony only started doing it after seeing how much money Xbox did. In the PS3, online was free and PS+ was completely optional.

Xbox has been dead in the market, so idk what this guy is talking about.

If they pull from the market now, nothing will change because they’ve been basically irrelevant for the last 10 years. The market has been changing and existing without Xbox as a major player for the past two generations since the Xbox One generation.

>>722847272 (OP)
MS subsidized Xbox knowing its operating at a long term loss in order to decouple Sony from exclusive titles who will now start releasing on PC. Gamepass was too cheap for what it offered. They took the loss willingly and now they're no longer subsidizing gamers.

>>722889906
If not for Microsoft, I wonder if Sony and Nintendo would ever have figured out that free money trick by themselves.

does anything really change? Nintendo is literally in their own world and sony is doing sony stuff.

>>722889939
If they think it's bad now against Sony, next gen they're entering no man's land territory against Valve, SteamOS is going to kill the Xbox full screen experience, and the Steam Deck 2 is going to kill the Xbox Magnus handheld. If anything, Chronos the New Dawn and Bulder's Gate 3 are just a start of things to come where I can see more developers making native Linux version of games that are Steam Deck/Steam Deck 2 optimized.

>>722890406
Not really. Sony may think they rule 'true' video games now as they still discount Nintendo as competition despite Nintendo leaving them in the dust the last generation, but they'll still operate at the same level of hubris they have been, and Nintendo will do the same. Both their own little bubbles only with Sony sticking things on PC or Switch/Switch 2 for extra dough.

>>722881415
based ps1 having a aaa final fantasy game while n64 was shitting the bed with its retarded cartridges. moron

>>722888387
There's no fucking way that Sega was getting funded by Honda execs that sounds too ridiculous.

>>722857986
That is revisionism. Xbox has always lead the charge on these schemes and then Sony has usually followed right after. Just look at a history book.

>>722847778
>The industry got worse when they had market dominance.
FTFY
All the bad things in gaming today can be traced back to the Xbox 360 and its respective generation.

The push for online connectivity and creating an online marketplace for publishers opened up the floodgates to all the predatory monetary practices we have in gaming today.
The concept of DLC is not new, and in fact spearheaded itself in the very early era of Xbox Live (Toe Jam and Earl 3), season passes, lootboxes, and microtransactions cemented themselves in the middle of the 7th gen.

>>722864414
>Everything bad finally dies for normals
>The industry can reawaken like the Phoenix
Finally. The true power vacuum will open.

>>722891269
Never 5get

>>722866616
>Selling to Tencent
Microsoft like it or not is basically the same as Tencent, but in America. Highly doubt America will allow their Corporate arm to die like that. Xbox division will most likely become Gamepass and that will be that.

>>722891464
The beginning of the end.

>>722881247
I wonder how much Gamepass counts for the Gaming revenue.

>>722847272 (OP)
Xbox consoles wouldn't be pulled from the shelves, for one. For two, it would affect absolutely nothing because Microsoft has already started making their games available on everything. It would lead to layoffs, sure, but it would not lead to less games being made. All those studios Microsoft owns will still be making games.

>>722849328
How are you going to create a game when you're hiring aberrations?

>>722847272 (OP)
I only play nip shit and indie shit nowdays so I couldn't give less of a damn

>>722847272 (OP)
>buy companies because you need exclusives for your console
>kill your console

>>722892014
>studio actually makes a game that gets good worth of mouth and decent sales
>kill the studio shortly afterward anyway

no winning

>>722892061
At what one does malice become the more plausible explanation than just incompetence? Because it seems like they crossed that line.

>>722847272 (OP)
>What a said story! (laughs)

what if Microsoft never cared about the Xbox brand?
what if this whole entire time it was one giant strategy to improve the revenue of their other products and strangle the competition for those products, and the Xbox brand was simply just a sacrificial stepping stone?

>>722890705
It hurt gaming and pushed for story in games, Sony was the Japanese Microsoft, who ended up pulling the same shit here in the US on our games. I'm glad 10th generation will be the last gen for Microsoft's Xbox and Sony's PlayStation, both will die trying to fight Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2.

>>722893107
nah, it objectively saved gaming and final fantasy after the shitendo shitty4 tried to nuke the industry as a whole with its awful design.

>>722893751
No, it did not, it turned Final Fantasy into a movie and eventually killed its turn-based gameplay.

>>722847272 (OP)
It's fine. Xbox was always last place among the three. We're just going back to the 1v1 days when it was PS1 vs N64.

>>722847272 (OP)
Only Americans will be hurt.

>>722848969
I tried to warn everyone that Microsoft was going to hurt the American video game industry, but Americans in their rapacious desire to dominate and consume everything supported the acquisitions.

>>722894585
nope, it didn't, it saved final fantasy and kept its turn based kino.

>>722854774
Microsoft is too big to fail retard. The dudes in charge could make nothing but bad decisions that bleed money for the next century and they would still be bailed out, not just by the us, but by every tax paying western nation out there.

>>722847272 (OP)
People will look back on this generation and say Xbox Series S/X was the clear winner. It's a better system, better design, better interface, and much better value for games in general due to GamePass. PS5 has been a complete no-show. The Series X is only failing due to Sony brand loyalists and stigma from last gen. But it is far superior to PS5 in every way. Eat a dick. I will die on this hill.

>>722894912
Look at Final Fantasy now, it's in the shitter.

>>722894850
Out AAA industry was already fucked, good riddance, we'll return in indies and AA. Japan going back to that will be great too, AAA should die and never return. I hate the globe.

>>722847272 (OP)
>Call of Duty will suffer
Oh no, anyway
>Minecraft will suffer
I never played official minecraft since Microsoft bought it and only retards do

>>722847272 (OP)
I don't care anymore, Sony having no competition is bad but it's not like I can do anything about it if Xbox decided streaming and shoving pride flags into everything was more worthwhile than making products that were worth buying.

>>722896854
Sony having no competition is good, they'll kill themselves faster thinking they can challenge Nintendo and Valve in the handheld market getting killed by both just like Microsoft's next gen OEM handheld.

>>722871031
>And so we continue to get projects "featuring the devs behind X" that turn out to be every bit as bland.
I learned this lesson with the game Weird West and Rapheal Colantonio. I thought he would be able to produce something on par with his Arkane Studio games now that he has complete freedom to do whatever he wants and he just made some slop that was barely a 7/10 with some of the worst combat I've ever experienced.

>>722897828
>Valve
Lmao PCfags are desperate to get in on the console war action, but outside of the PC ecosystem they're sadly irrelevant.

>>722847272 (OP)
>noooo think about the heckin triple A-erino games!!!! not the heckin call of dooties!!!!!
I welcome the collapse of the AAA gaming industry. Return to janky autistic passion projects.

>>722896416
That’s only because faggots won’t buy an Xbox outside of America because they loathe anything American. It has nothing to do with the quality of the console. You can say PlayStation had grand theft auto and Xbox had absolutely destroyed them for 20 years straight. There is no reason to own a Sony console unless you’re a leftist faggot who watches other men fuck their wife.

>>722847272 (OP)
Wasn't there gonna be a crash? Is this is?

>>722898978
It's not desperation, Sony's copying both Nintendo and Valve for their PS6 handheld and Microsoft is copying Valve. Don't tell me it's a coincidence that Sony's handheld has the same specs as the Steam Deck 2 hitting the same 15W power limit, that can get a boost when docking like the Switch 2, while Xbox Magnus handheld is also going for a 15W limit while trying to mimic SteamOS. Those two retards have no original idea even if it hit them in the face. They copy others' ideas and fail at it. Nintendo and Valve will continue to act like neither exist no matter how hard they try to get them to notice, pathetic.

>>722853975
Why does nontendo even count? They only make games for kids.

>>722896416
>The Series X is only failing due to Sony brand loyalists and stigma from last gen
You dumbfuck Xbots will blame anything but the shitty leadership for killing the brand.

>>722896416
>>722899061
Xbox sucks ass and damaged the game industry, as a fellow American, I look down on you retarded Xbots. If you wanted to support American gaming hardware, you should have just got a Steam Deck.

>>722899389
>copying Valve
Lmao. Maybe Valve should stop copying consoles and stay in their own lane.

>>722853975
No, consoles will shift to handhelds like PC is doing, Nintendo will win in console handheld while Valve will win in PC handheld. Sony can't beat Nintendo and Microsoft can't beat Valve. They both need to stop trying and give up.

>>722847272 (OP)
Xbox launched in 2001, barely 24 years ago. Im sure the gaming industry will survive, if not, prosper without Microsoft scummy shit. Maybe Halo can launch on PS6

Not really. Everything on Xbox is already being developed for PC. Xbox is basically PC gaming for retards who can't use Windows or Steam.

The only reason it's being kept alive is because of western copium/interests wanting a big brand in the industry

>>722899574
They already do, Sony so creatively bankrupt they have to ripoff the Steam Deck's specs, power limit, and built-in controls while still screwing up on pricing to where they won't be anywhere near the cheaper pricing of the Switch 2 or Steam Deck 2? I will never understand why Sony went away from the era of not being the most powerful console ever.

>>722899679
Xbox is dead, Microsoft turned it into Windows Gaming to compete with SteamOS and lose again.

>>722899757
They haven't, retard, they're making a traditional console along with a handheld for effeminate numales like you.

>>722899875
They should just stick with home consoles, they only jumped back into handhelds because of the success of the Switch and Valve showing you make a high-end handheld that can play high-end games creating a new market. Sony tried this strategy before and failed; they will fail again.

>>722847272 (OP)
Less pressure on Nintendo and Sony is always a bad thing.

>>722899970
*can

>>722847272 (OP)
>Minecraft will suffer.
but they don't do anything with it anyway.

>>722899970
They're going to make a traditional console as well as a handheld, both will be wildly successful and you will continue to seethe, end of story.

>>722849328
Anyone with actual talent and the founders that got paid probably left. What's left are some people that can be lazy on a payroll.

All the studios making games for MS end up making garbage.
Bad games
Woke games
more often than not both.

The first studio with a game, that was critically well received by players and critics got shut down. It had a white MC, (shame who thinks evil)
Arkane that dropped one of the biggest turds in a decade remains. A game everyone forgot about because it was overshadwed by Titanic level disasters like HYENAS, Concord and Gollum.

>>722900305
Neither will be successful, even third parties are talking about this, no one wants a PS6 and feel like they got nothing from the PS5, in terms of handhelds, no one wants a PS6 handheld, let alone want that can't even play half of the damn library of the PlayStation, why does this even exist? Sony and Microsoft ran out of ideas.

>>722900606
Screencapped your post so I can look back on this moment and laugh 2 years from now.

>>722900879
Yeah, I can't wait to laugh at Sony again when they flop in the handheld scene again. Also, can't wait to see the PS6 be their last generation. Seeing both Sony's and Microsoft's 10th gen plans flopping will be deeply satisfying.

>>722901198
See you in 2027, faggot, I'll be there to personally serve you that crow you're going to be eating.

>>722901469
I can't wait to see your face when Sony announces the PS6 costs $1000 while the handheld will be in the $700.

>>722889279
>Zoomie wasn't there for dreamcast release
That shit had average life span of a month, it's only okay now because all faulty units died 20+ years ago

>>722899512
It’s ok I know you’re a Japanese retard who posts as an “American”

>>722899574
>Lmao. Maybe Valve should stop copying consoles and stay in their own lane.
lol the console babby is afraid

>>722847272 (OP)
Yes, because we will be left with Nintendo and Sony and you might argue that they're not competing as directly as MSoft was with Sony so they will able to do whatever they want, which can only be negative for customers.

>>722902101
Nobody is afraid, Steamie, Valve will never be relevant outside of the PC ecosystem, they barely make any of their own games as is.

>>722902335
You do realize Valve pulls about a billion a year from Counter Strike, right?

>>722902335
>Valve will never be relevant outside of the PC ecosystem
well right now it seems that outside of Nintendo, the PC "ecosystem" (god what a gay techfag word) might be the only one left

>>722847272 (OP)
at this point? no because gaming as we know it died ages ago

>>722899409
>its for kids because i say so

>>722899409
>Nintendophiles love games meant for children
Things that make you go hmmmmm.

>>722847272 (OP)
Things that Xbox contributed to the industry:
>paid online
>prioritizing "achievements" over in-game content
>popularizing the idea of "DLC" instead of expansions
>normalized realeasing a broken product
Good riddance. Microsoft turns to shit any industry they touch.

>>722847272 (OP)
I want all of them to die. Nintendo, Sony, Xbox all of em.

I want Sega to come back and pick up the pieces and dominate again.

>>722902335
They've already killed PlayStation and Xbox by copying Nintendo's strategy of doing nothing and winning. Nintendo and Valve did their own thing while their competition kept having dick measuring contest to see who can fuck their consumers in the ass harder. Nintendo and Valve are also smart enough to go for cheap and budget friendly while not going overboard with graphics like Sony and Microsoft.

Hey janny kill yourself you black stupid nigger

>>722873386
same situation with the 360, ps3 and wii outclassed it by the end

>>722903947
Valve doesn't even make games, they're a complacent, lazy company that got their wealth by selling other people's games. They're a joke, just like PC gayming as whole is a joke.