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Anonymous No.723007673 [Report] >>723008132 >>723009607 >>723010167 >>723010272 >>723010349 >>723013093 >>723013147 >>723013763 >>723014479 >>723014727 >>723016834 >>723016928 >>723017574 >>723017738 >>723018010 >>723020942
>13 years later
>still no game came even close to this masterful storytelling
What gives?
Anonymous No.723008132 [Report] >>723019060
>>723007673 (OP)
This game convinced me that NPCs exist in real life.
Anonymous No.723008302 [Report] >>723019060
Sorry, OP here, posted the wrong pic
Anonymous No.723009607 [Report] >>723012470 >>723013253 >>723013598 >>723014017 >>723014346 >>723015363 >>723017262
>>723007673 (OP)
>railroads you into committing war crimes
>game tries to bait you into feeling shame

I see what they were trying to do but it falls flat since the game doesn't give you a choice.

>but you could stop by turning it off

fuck off, I paid actual money for the game and I'm going to see it to completion.

The only game that ever did this right was Undertale since there are two routes and the bad one is an unbearable slog to play.
Anonymous No.723010000 [Report] >>723012470 >>723013598
>Just stop playing the game, monster
Okay, will you refund it?
Anonymous No.723010167 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
>awful tps gameplay
>abandoned sand mechanics
>no multiplayer
>marketing and story designed to bait and switch retarded Mexican kids into thinking about how video game violence and war are bad(a point not one of them got)
Its a midwit game through and through for fart huffing redditors to feel smart about. Its a game for the Jon Blows of the world who love to talk about how gaming needs to be more than just "shooting dudes" followed by daily 8 hour streams of him playing warzone.
Its like that meme of "reading mein kampf on the bus but shaking my head so people know that I think its bad"
Anonymous No.723010272 [Report] >>723012470
>>723007673 (OP)
>AHHH I KILLED PEOPLE IM GOING INSANE
Cringe and retarded game.
Anonymous No.723010349 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
I'M NOT EVIL FUCK YOU
Anonymous No.723012470 [Report] >>723012848 >>723013042 >>723013363 >>723014017 >>723016390
>>723009607
>>723010000
>>723010272
imagine being mindbroke by some tongue in cheek loading screen messages
you aren't captain walker, you play the part of captain walker. understand?
Anonymous No.723012848 [Report]
>>723012470
>the frog poster asking for plausible deniability
Anonymous No.723013042 [Report] >>723014017 >>723017305
>>723012470
That's kind of the point, you can't simultaneously make me feel anything about a person in a bad situation doing bad things, but also give me a personal hard lesson on why war bad because technically I'm the player doing all of it. I was never, at any point, given a choice. That's also why the game is not exactly bad, it has a decent premise for a mid game. It's mostly shit huffers and redditors who like to feel smarter than they are by pointing out how it gives a very valuable lesson. I'd get it if this was like in an RPG where you can either save the earth by making a sacrifice or decimating 40 school busses full of toddlers to make yourself feel better, but that's never the case, because people would mostly choose everything other than murdering children, and that would defeat the purpose of making a game so full of itself.
Anonymous No.723013093 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
reddit the game
Anonymous No.723013147 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
The message of the game had already been done by MGS 2.
Anonymous No.723013160 [Report]
Retard swedes don't know that cowadooty says "war bad" all the fucking time, and they have the gumption to make the game fun as well
Anonymous No.723013253 [Report] >>723014017
>>723009607
LMAO brainless still think they're Walker
Anonymous No.723013363 [Report]
>>723012470
Anonymous No.723013598 [Report]
>>723009607
>>723010000
Basically this.
Anonymous No.723013763 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
>YOU (THE PLAYER) TURNED US INTO FUCKING KILLERS
Anonymous No.723014017 [Report]
>>723009607
>>723012470
>>723013042
>>723013253
None of you get it.
You do have a choice, and Walker does represent the player. You're arguing with each other about shit that doesn't matter but you don't know what it's really about.
Anonymous No.723014346 [Report]
>>723009607
There is ONE moment in the game where it does actually give you a genuine choice, and decide if you are a killer or a protector, which is them moment lugo gets hanged by the crowd, and walker fails to stop him from drowning in his own blood because he is shit at CPR, and then the player has to decide to either disperse the crowd, or shoot them dead. It's not by accident that depending on your choice, you get the acheivement "a line held", or "a line crossed".

Pity this pivotal moment is barely acknowledged in the game though.
Anonymous No.723014479 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
its a product of its time.
2012
bleeders starting to feel bad bombing the religion of peace.
cod glorifying a modern world war number 3.
mass effect lets you be bad (sassy) but still a hero.
gow spinning its wheels in a Pyrrhic victory.
halo losing the plot.
and nobel peace prize king had just taken the white house again after shrubbery jr.
I think the devs were just pissing on cod
Anonymous No.723014727 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
https://youtu.be/mdx-j8ypD6g?si=uQDvkaxhZr09PvQp
Anonymous No.723015363 [Report] >>723016630
>>723009607
Just ask yourself, what if you had another way to do it, one that kept your hands clean? Wouldn't people just replay the game till they got it? Wouldn't they say that's the real way to play? Wouldn't they refuse to continue till they got it "right" or at least not acknowledge the "bad route"?

This is why they didn't do it. There's only the bad route. That's the actual choice you make. Go ahead with it or don't.
Anonymous No.723016390 [Report]
>>723012470
Who are the loading screens addressed to, retard? To captain Walker, a character in the game? You subhuman, retarded filth, how dare you open your mouth.
Anonymous No.723016630 [Report] >>723021048
>>723015363
Okay, where's my money? I want a refund. I've stopped playing the game when it told me to, I want a refund for an incomplete product.
Anonymous No.723016761 [Report]
Game by goy cattle, for goy cattle.
Anonymous No.723016834 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
every time it's mentioned everyone focuses on the phosphorus shit but it's actually a very good shooter and I like how the look of character and they way he speaks changes through the game, not many games do it, very cool
Anonymous No.723016892 [Report]
>tfw it's delisted now an impossible to buy
what the fuck is their problem?
Anonymous No.723016928 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
Filtered too many gamers. Can't have them being told that they're actually retards, just rage baiting them into buying the latest slop.
Also
>2025
>Still being ass lasted over this game
Anonymous No.723017134 [Report] >>723017215
maybe i would have liked this more if i hadnt already read heart of darkness. it just seems so been there done that other than the cooler setting
Anonymous No.723017215 [Report] >>723017297
>>723017134
It isn't the Heart of Darkness, though. The real villain is you, the player. Fuck you for buying our game.
Anonymous No.723017262 [Report] >>723017320
>>723009607
Why did you pay money for a warcrime simulator?
Anonymous No.723017297 [Report] >>723017358
>>723017215
I dont self insert. I just saw Walkers story.
Anonymous No.723017305 [Report]
>>723013042
>Adds one choice in the prologue where you have to sign up for the millitary and if you dont do it the game ends.
What now?
Anonymous No.723017320 [Report]
>>723017262
Because I was told (lied to) that this game is interesting and has something to say.
Anonymous No.723017350 [Report] >>723017406 >>723017593
Anonymous No.723017358 [Report] >>723017474
>>723017297
>Self-insert
The story is not about Walker. It's about you.
Anonymous No.723017406 [Report] >>723017590 >>723018516
>>723017350
Who are the loading screens addressed to? Answer this question directly.
Anonymous No.723017474 [Report] >>723017535 >>723017586
>>723017358
I didnt see me in the game. I just saw Walker and Lugo and Adams.
Anonymous No.723017535 [Report]
>>723017474
>Actual caveman can play videogames
Impressive
Anonymous No.723017574 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
People like Spec Ops' premise and that it's bravery to tell a serious story about war crimes. It's storytelling is nothing special, except for the smart decision to make the player forced to cross the line with no alternatives. It has weak gameplay, and nothing else special, but people will forever remember the game because it showed you the other side of war and forced you to literally cope with that. Look no further than the constant threads as proof of it's lasting infamy. It was never gonna be a popular game or the best FPS. It just had a point to get people to think about.
Anonymous No.723017586 [Report]
>>723017474
>I didnt see me in the game
Based retard
Anonymous No.723017590 [Report] >>723018030
>>723017406
It's Konrad talking to Walker in his head.
Anonymous No.723017593 [Report]
>>723017350
You call this an Xbox 360 despite the fact that is obviously a Wii.
Anonymous No.723017697 [Report] >>723018030
wtf is with you people. So when you watch tv shows or movies you see yourself as the main character????
Anonymous No.723017738 [Report] >>723018742
>>723007673 (OP)
>masterful storytelling
Lol
Anonymous No.723017872 [Report]
I don't self-insert, this kind of shit doesn't do anything for me.
It's like me reading a book and I should feel bad for the character murdering someone
Anonymous No.723018010 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
>masterful storytelling
I have a pretty good memory and basically remember all games that I played to a degree, at least how they end, but this game... I can't remember a single thing about it other than the ambush/shootout while some Mogwai song is playing.
Anonymous No.723018030 [Report]
>>723017590
Read the loading screens in question and realize it makes absolutely no sense.

>>723017697
Who are the loading screens addressed to? Why does Lugo point at the player (not at Walker) when he yells "This is your fault, goddamnit"?
Anonymous No.723018032 [Report]
shit gameplay, shit story
Anonymous No.723018141 [Report]
I liked this game but I didnt see myself as Walker. I just liked the story of him going mad in the same way I would with a movie about the same thing.
Anonymous No.723018516 [Report] >>723018649 >>723021140
>>723017406
Who does any loading screen in any game address? Obviously, it's the player. But not every loading screen tip is going to relevant to every player.

The point of Spec Ops is two things:
>Make the player forced to make a pivotal, evil decision
>Ask the Player do they feel guilty about that decision
You don't feel guilt? That's fine, if you thought about it, then the game's point was made. You could have bombed the civilians immediately, done so ignorantly and naively, or did so as a last choice. Maybe you did it immediately and never felt guilt in the slightest, or maybe you did it as a last resort and still felt guilty about it.
>That's what makes Spec Ops a Good Videogame Story
It doesn't tell you a story, it puts you into one. Gave you a chance to relate to the character or disassociate from his actions. Only after the line was crossed is the player give more agency to do things differently and give multiple choices throughout the game to show that. If Spec Ops was a movie or a book, it wouldn't be anything special, but because you have a chance to feel a bit of what Walker or at least what he was going through - that makes it a story that could only be told through a videogame.
Anonymous No.723018649 [Report] >>723018991
>>723018516
>Make the player forced to make a pivotal, evil decision
>Ask the Player do they feel guilty about that decision
Do you even realize how absolutely retarded this sounds?
Anonymous No.723018727 [Report]
>he he he, posting these lies will surely get me lots of internet attention today :D
Saddest thread on /v/ atm
Anonymous No.723018742 [Report]
>>723017738
>X screencap
Rope + stool
Anonymous No.723018991 [Report]
>>723018649
I don't know, anon, do people feel guilty about things that aren't their fault? Do soldiers feel guilty for just following orders? Just pressing a button or making a command that leads to people on either side dying? Guilt doesn't need justification, it just needs a little bit of agency. Who has watched a movie and felt guilty for a fictional characters actions? Nobody that's sane that's who. But you see plenty of people deal with some guilt however small with Spec Ops. That's why it's remembered.

>But I didn't feel guilt. I don't relate to Walker. And I did more evil actions throughout the story
That's still agency defining the story. You got to make Walker try his best or his worst or whatever inbetween. Then you chose what ending you felt was best for you. That's also what seperates it from a movie or a book.
Anonymous No.723019057 [Report]
>13 years later
>Still no burger that even came as close as to have such an excellent taste with magnificent lettuce, not forgetting the vegan mentally ill staff that spits and cums on my burger because they hate burgers and hate you for eating burgers
>Their statement is very important to sell their burgers.
Anonymous No.723019060 [Report]
>>723008132
FPBP
>>723008302
SP also BP
Anonymous No.723020942 [Report]
>>723007673 (OP)
Anonymous No.723021048 [Report]
>>723016630
This is why capitalism and art are antithetical
Anonymous No.723021140 [Report]
>>723018516
This guy gets it
Anonymous No.723021340 [Report]
He didn't mean to hurt anybody thou.