Thread 723015237

Crosscode a masterpiece

Sex with Emilie on top of a laser bridge while Lea watches

>>723015237 (OP)
i dropped it
too many puzzles

>>723015527
how is combat and story ?

>>723016438
combat was ok i dont remember anything about the story

>>723016438
good combat, interesting story, immersive setting, great music, brilliant showcase for what can be done with HTML5

>>723017420
The game is primarily made in JavaScript, not HTML5.

>>723015527
Storyline puzzles were fun. The open world puzzles were annoying.

>>723016438
Some enemy types are god awful. Such as being invincible unless you counter it, but also making you fight 15 of them at a time.

>>723015237 (OP)
the puzzles were too "german" for my taste still liked it enough to get the collectors edition though

When the fuck is Alabaster Dawn happening

>>723016438
Story is good, they didn't have to add Lea suffering though.

>>723018024
Soon? There's a demo available.

>>723015237 (OP)
Hi!
Lea!

>>723018024
Based on the demo, I'd say mid next year

>>723015527
>gameplay?? in MY video games????!? how fucking dare you!!!!

>>723018684
i wanted more combat and less puzzles not more cutscenes or story
every time i was getting into it a 15 minute puzzle section would show up

>>723018684
>>723018925
Yeah it's totally valid, a good 30% of Crosscode is solving puzzles and if that's not for you, it's not for you.

>>723015237 (OP)
Shit taste

>>723015527
>too many puzzles
No.
Too fiddly puzzles. The contraptions get really interesting, but then you also need to dash race the elemental bullets and manually make it switch tracks 4-5 times.
It was fun the first few times, but then it starts getting annoying because basic things like your deflect angle not being consistent, or the switches have inconsistent activation time.

At which point it starts getting annoying.

you know whats kinda like crosscode and good?
secrets of grindea

>>723018972
Way less than 30% of the game is solving dungeon puzzles. But almost 100% of the gameplay is puzzles if you consider combat and exploration to be puzzle-like, which I do.
Combat almost always involves some kind of weak spot or defense you have to break before you can damage an enemy, so it feels more like a puzzle than action.
Exploration, the game is divided into several major areas which are full of treasure chests you can only reach by circuitous paths. You have to figure out what level of elevation it's on, then follow the path backwards into other screens looking for the spot that will ultimately give you access to where you need to go.

The actual puzzles, the dungeon puzzles, are the only fun part about this piece of shit, and they constitute probably 10% of the game. 20% is shitty combat, 30% is shitty story, and 40% is shitty exploration,

>>723019356
I really disliked the puzzles that had the orb that goes through walls, or slides on the wall, very inconsistent on the angle you have to be in, and if you miss the puzzle resets. Annoying.

>>723019356
okay now please post about needing a magnifying glass to discern the 0.0000003mm differences between vertical platforms you can hop between in the outer world

>>723019458
holy shit it actually left early access

>>723015237 (OP)
Crosscode is good, only game I liked enough to buy the collectors edition. Also Lea best girl.

>>723020006
yea and they recently added new game plus to it so i might revisit it

>>723015237 (OP)
The C-Tron twist broke my heart.
That being said the ethics of the story and the implications of what Lea and other characters are (I won't spoil anything too much.) makes me raise an eyebrow.

>>723015237 (OP)
not really

>>723020418
>C-tron
The devs simply listened to the fans - no more Lea suffering. But now someone else is due for a psychotic break...

>>723020671
I wonder who they will shift the curse onto in their next game.

>>723020761
Probably the white dude you play as in the opening

Is Alabaster Dawn any good? I noticed the demo dropped but haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

>>723021117
Demo is promising, feels like a Crosscode 1.5 but I can see the new weapons being polarizing

>>723021195
Dope I loved the combat and playing of CC but never finished it up for the same reasons everyone has mentioned a million times.
Still I've got a 3 day, I'll see if I can fit AD in.

>>723015237 (OP)
>dude what if we took the worst part of Yoshi's Island and made an entire top-down game based around it
It's not a good or fun game. It's also ugly as sin with its western nose art style.

>>723021195
Still haven't played the demo, but I hope they toned the puzzles down. My biggest problem with CrossCode is that everything is a fucking puzzle, even outside of dungeons.

>>723021391
Embarassing post, holy shit

>>723021117
It looks like Crosscode with more stuff, which is it up my fucking alley.

I'm surprised there aren't more mods for Crosscode though, given how everything is just xml files and sprite sheets.

>>723019356
the ability to snap angle directions if you hold a button would have helped a lot

>>723015237 (OP)
Surprised no one has talked about the DLC. Seems like the devs rushed it when I played through it. But the ending felt like a real ending to the game though.

>>723021391
>Comparing CrossCode to Yoshi's Island of all things
What could you possibly mean by this?

>>723019356
He didn't fly so good.

>>723021117
It's quite literally just more crosscode, which is both a good and a bad thing.

>>723022801
>rushed it
Really? Cause it's a fucking huge DLC.

>>723016438
Combat mechanics are kind of like a more hectic Mana game. Enemy design is more Zelda-y, with many enemies wanting you to approach them in specific ways instead of just mashing (but mashing still works eventually in many cases)
Story has an interesting premise, but the setting interferes with the pacing and there's a few plot holes or unsatisfying resolutions.

>>723023247
Maybe thats just how the DLC felt to me or it was just me looking back as I played through it years ago. As the raid was 'okay,' the island was a giant circle and I only went back to it to finish my 100%, but saving everyone and seeing Lea being happy was nice.

I found the puzzles really exhausting.
They would introduce a new mechanic and then give you a trillion increasingly harder puzzles when really 2-3 times would've been enough. Just give me easy, medium, hard instead of putting another 500 inbetween difficulties.

anything to play while I wait for alabaster? that demo was so fuckin good

>>723024431
Pocky & Rocky if you want basically the same gameplay in a more arcadey stage-based game.

>>723024431
Closest thing to Crosscode I've played so far is Pipistrello. Combat's easier, but you still get yoyo ricochets, attack cancels, and puzzles with execution requirements.

>>723024573
>>723024640
played both already. they're really good

i got bored around the desert area, it was too annoying for the amount of enjoyment i was recieving

>>723021117
Gameplay was nice, I liked it, but characters felt kinda eh. Maybe time is needed to get used to them, but I think Crosscode cast is much more noticable and appealing.

>>723016438
The concept for the story is interesting. But the writing and execution is a solid 1 out of 5. They could've cut out half the dialogue and it still would've been too wordy. It's definitely written by someone who watches a lot of anime and doesn't know proper English or have basic writing skills.

>>723020418
>C-tron twist
Surely I can't be the only one who took one singular look at this guy and said "yep, he's going to betray the party".

>what if... grindy as fuck mmo but... single player
this game genuinely is for autistic fucks.

>>723028265
>grindy
I don't remember having to grind at all. I just did all of the side quests as I played through the story.

>>723015237 (OP)
>Crosscode a masterpiece
Until you have to do that bullshit tower defense.

>>723015237 (OP)
I like games with unique gameplay and crosscode does have unique gameplay, the puzzles are the weak point they are nice at first but eventually it is just gold rudeberg puzzles that are more about executing a long sequence of actions in limited time, if you are 0.1 seconds off hitting a button you have to do it all over again.
>>723016438
Combat is fine, story is dragged down by the faggot shippings

>>723015237 (OP)
can't wait for the sequel.

>>723018115
I hope he isn't involved in the writing process

>>723023910
The puzzles don't get harder to solve they get harder to execute the solution

>>723029295
This was genuinely satisfying to do, it's also the last puzzle in the game right?

>>723029295
>pause scumming
That puzzle was kino.

>>723029295
>""Puzzle""
This shit is just trial and error.

>>723029408
Yeah I think so

>>723029458
And that somehow makes it not a puzzle because?

>>723029295
Sweet lord, yeah, I like the game quite a bit but there's no way I can actually pull shit like this consistently.
Kudos to anyone that can though.

>>723029458
It's more of a memory test

>>723020005
Was I the only other person who hated this? The obnoxious maze like nature of the outer maps which should be simple really rubbed me the wrong way.

>>723029571
CrossCode has an assist option to slow down the puzzles.

>>723022932

he means Lea gets embarrassed when she poos out eggs

>>723029295
>Have the puzzle basically already solved
>Takes 20 tries to get the timing right on everything
Its not an interesting puzzle it is just throwing everything in the kitchen sink at you at once

>>723028265
there is no grind in Crosscode, once you figure out the enemy placements your goal is to fight your way through the area in a clean swoop, which will net S rank & dish out the best drop guaranteed

>>723029656
Maybe it should have told me that after I failed like 50 times in a row

>>723018115
what is the possible justification for that many names and duplicate names in your full name?

>>723028265
The only time you might ever have to grind is farming drops for the "find 10 rat asses" MMO sidequests
bare minimum number of kills + up to date equipment (chests or shops) is sufficient at all points of the game, and the dlc even takes a jab at people getting filtered by ignoring equipment

>>723029831
The Ben is probably an intentional corruption of Bin which means "Son of", I'd imagine as a way to show they're trans

>>723029458
You need to identify and rig the mechanism.
Which by itself s very interesting. If you are playing it wrong, you are solving it by bruteforcing it one piece of at a time, which gets horridly tedious

But then again >>723029295
What gives me PTSD here is the orb launch at 1:01, or anything involving getting multiple moving parts at the same time. The control scheme is simply too finicky to make it more advanced.
The player is risking starting over at both orb launches, because its a piece of shit mechanic

>>723015237 (OP)
Are there other retro games like this? Only found this, the successor and shadow of Adam. Anything else?

>>723030869
depends on what you mean, the in a game world aesthetic?

>>723031225
Not necessarily, rather gameplay and the like. I like snes games and crosscode is obviously inspired by these. I found seeds of nostalgia on kickstarter, but it might take a while until it's released.
I'll take anything available on console that's remotely fun and snes like.

You bought her plushie, right?

>>723031506
I thought about it, but I already have best girl Lea's plush.

>>723031506
get out of my head nigger, I was in the middle of writing this exact post

>>723031594
Why not both?

>>723015237 (OP)
It's trash. Games made by germans are always trash.

>>723031506
I want a crosscode mousepad kinda sad they didn't make a official one.

>>723015237 (OP)
It's great, 9/10 i'd say.
>masterpiece
nah

>>723016438
>combat
Engaging, but turns tedious by the end. Mostly the long endurance puzzles are just anti-fun.
>Story
A tiny bit on the cringe side depending on your tolerence for HAHA ITS A VIDEO GAME GUISE, but good enough with some good hooks.
My only gripe is with Apollo and Joern. While great characters, the dev seemed EXTREMELY adamant that the player would not pick up that they were gay.
Like seriously, if you didn't figure that shit out by the jungle area you were heavily in denial or just plain retarded. Yeah bro, we get it, you can stop dropping increasingly gayer contextual hints every other appearance just in case someone didn't get it. Let them be normal people I don't even give a shit that they're gay, you're just trying way too hard.

>>723029806
Theres a little bit of grind, but only if you're into completion autism. The dlc is worse about it.

>>723031506
Already got Lea. Only other character I'd buy is Sergey.

>>723031805
Got drova for 20 and while the intro is 9/10, the whole game is trash. Devs spend 1M euro for literally the very same fight. All fights in the game are equal. Builds are meaningless, stats are either strength and hp or meaningless. Itemization is as bad as some weird 80s games. Ridiculous. Germans were once cream of the crop, now they are... Whatever that's supposed to be.

>>723029831
i'm an arab and do the whole "son of" as my "real" full name as a fun joke. I'd never actually put it into anything "official" ever

>>723015237 (OP)
Oh I remember this game. Dropped it because didn't have a jump button, I fucking hate autojump. Also shoot and melee are attached to the same button, making it a context based action. Fuck that retarded shit

>>723031420
>I like snes games and crosscode is obviously inspired by these.
in that case you absolutely should play Hyperlight Drifter, the developer spoke about how he made it like a SNES game, it doesn't explain what you're doing, it allows you to infer the objectives and it's very good about indicating what to do, no dialogue

>>723020005
ffffuuck this was so annoying
I had a controller with misconfigured deadzones and was stuck in the desert area for an hours on some switch or item until I looked at my settings

>>723016438
i really enjoyed the combat, one of the few top down real time combat systems that didnt feel awful to me

>>723015237 (OP)
fucking awful artstyle
might try for gameplay or story, but the artstyle is fucking awful

>>723019356
this. it wasnt a "puzzle" so much as speed-tranny shit where you have to practice a rhythm of steps and execute them precisely.

>>723034068
Time-based puzzles have existed long before speed-tranny shit. Take your meds.

I think i remember beating what was complete a few months before they added a colosseum, have there been any significant additions since?

>>723032936
Breaker is his second game? Gameplay might be nice, but boy, he likes 4 colour dos design, doesn't he? I'll give it a try then. Will try the second one, too.

>>723034176
its not the same as hitting the hourglass in sonic adventure 2's pyramid stage and platforming or whatever. its the sheer quantity of steps in precise sequence that makes the difference. its not solving a puzzle, its learning a song on keyboard. theres a difference.

>>723034756
Time-based puzzle-style escort missions have existed long before speed-tranny shit. Take you meds. I'm sorry you got filtered.

>>723019356
>your deflect angle not being consistent
>>723019769
>had the orb that goes through walls, or slides on the wall, very inconsistent on the angle
>>723030241
>What gives me PTSD here is the orb launch at 1:01
its actually extremely consistent, you fags just cant aim for shit. ESPECIALLY the green thing going through walls.

I don't understand the hate for the puzzles. None gave me any trouble.

>>723029806
You forgot the part where cutscenes (including shit like laser barriers appearing) instantly kill your rank. Also ranks do not exist in dungeons for some ungodly arbitrary reason.

>>723030869
Phoenotopia Awakening hit a similar vibe for me, and it's a good length of a game too.

>>723038649
Jump and run, huh? Haven't played a platformer in ages, only plenty of metroidvania, but they usually have boring platform sections.

>>723015237 (OP)
Shut the fuck up, Seizui.

>>723039156
It takes heavy inspiration from Zelda 2 in particular. Unfortunately this also applies to the QoL.

>>723039250
Clunky ui or what are you referring to

>>723039965
Been awhile so I don't remember it all that clearly. Main thing that comes to mind is having a world map you slowly traverse while being bombarded with encounters. No fast travel, there's a quest lategame to unlock teleporters with limited locations to choose from that you'll still do plenty of walking to and from. Untrimmed fat like that.

>>723039250
Clunky ui or what are you referring to

>>723040825
>being bombarded with encounters
>No fast travel
Bad game design habits seem to be immortal

Don't like the combat and the puzzles got too tedious.

I hate how bizarrely sexless the game is, besides Lea's Leas.

>>723015237 (OP)
Not really.

>>723038649
Be sure to mention how the game ends abruptly and cutscenes the rest of what should have been the final boss and story because the dev ran out of money and just cut it and shipped it.
I've never been so disappointed by a game that started out promising and just turned to shit every step of the way.

>>723015237 (OP)
i like the way the tits are drawn here

The puzzles in this games are not very fun because the difficulty comes from the execution of the solution rather than having an insight of what to do. I say this as someone who consider puzzles games my favorite genre by far.

Play Stephen's Sausage Roll or something like that, people. The difference is night and day.

I think the main reason the puzzles are disliked is because there such a big contrast of gameplay between the outside world and inside dungeons. At the start of the game you are treated to a somewhat long tutorial, but then you finally enter the island and you can just run around blasting everything. Feels pretty great. You get the false impression this is what most of the game will be like: bright cheerful colors, fast-paced combat, hype music, just running around doing MMORPG shit with party members that have lot of friendly banter.

Then you enter your first dungeon and the fun ends now. You are isolated from your party members, no more "LASER BRIDGE!" or big nerd saying big nerd things, no more bright cheerful environment, it's all cold and monochrome, and you can kiss goodbye to running around blasting everything. There's still some enemies but you mostly just do puzzles, again, and again. They're not bad puzzles, but the problem is that the game is a 9/10 outside of dungeon and is a 7/10 in dungeons. It's a big downgrade. Everything that makes this game unique is stripped away, you want to explore the MMORPG world and uncover the mystery of Lea's identity while goofing around with party members and all of that is put on pause so you can relentlessly do puzzles which are definitely not as interesting. When the non-puzzle content is so good, the puzzle content is just an annoying formality to get done with.

tl:dr if they removed 90% of puzzles and allowed you to bring party members in dungeon this game would probably have received a lot more love.

>Ketin D'Kar
I feel ashamed for knowing this is a 2006 4chan /b/ meme.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/jesus-christ-its-a-lion-get-in-the-car

>>723046045
>Reddit's Sausage Roll

>>723018115
>witches
>goth
Like flies to shit with trannies it seems.

>>723046607
>2006
It was two decades ago. Most of the /v/ posters weren't born yet.

The ManLeah dlc still gives me a chuckle

>>723029831
That's why Siddig el-Tahir el-Fadil el-Siddig Abdurrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim el-Mahdi went by Siddig el-Fadil for a few years then gave up and settled on Alexander Siddig.

>minimal porn
sad

>>723015237 (OP)
Looks like the type of game that's immensely popular with transfolx

>>723015237 (OP)
>small, pert, freckled French tiddies
bueno...