Thread 723077473

Does a game need human characters for you to take it seriously?

I don't need to take a game seriously

>>723077686
That means that stories are a waste of time?

>>723077759
Just make it fun

>>723077759
Yes. So is life.

>>723077686
fpbp
>>723077861
fpwp

>>723077790
>nintenbabby

>>723077759
Correct. If you want to tell a story then tell it through gameplay. If you're not a good enough game designer to do that then you don't deserve to tell a story at all.

>>723077686
>t. Shigeru Miyamoto

>>723078673
>you're a toddler for wanting fun
You heard it here first, folks.

>>723078865
>correct if you're making a comic don't use any text, if you can't deal with that restriction then you don't deserve to use pictures at all.

>>723078946
Nintendo thinks that it's only fun that matters in games. That's what you implied with your statement.

>>723079034
And?

>>723078979
Also half-true, however you read the pictures in a comic the same way you read the text. You don't read games.

>>723079272
You're the target audience for Nintendo games and probably won't get much from more complex games.

>>723079403
Visual Novels are not complex games.

>>723079386
>you read pictures

>>723077686
Fpbp
>>723077759
Yes, as well as every single player game that isn't based on scoring.

>>723079403
AAA sloppa with YA-tier writing isn't any more complex than a Mario game.

>>723079459
Games genres are not binary like genders are.

>>723079501
Scoring is an outdated mechanic. There's a reason why it was removed after Mega Man 1. Because it's retarded and should have died out with the arcades.

>>723079524
Never said it is.

>>723079487
You literally do and that's a technical term btw. Pictures where it's hard to make out what's going on are said to have poor readability. Paintings also have readability. You don't literally read right to left the way you read text but your eyes should be guided in a particular direction.

>>723079840
Left to right*, honest typo I'm not a sandnigger.

>>723079840
ok, why don't you read the froggy to me

>>723079948
Reading means using your eyes, faggot. If you read text aloud then it's not text anymore. If we had a way of coding images through sound, then sure, we would be able to read an image aloud too.

>>723080390
I could insist that readability is important in games too and that makes stories important in games. You're just being an asshole just because two different types of activities happen to share vocabulary.

>>723077473 (OP)
Kemonos... home.

>>723078673
>fun game can only mean nintendo
Mindbroken

>>723079725
Name any supposed complex game then

>>723083023
Disregarding every other form for merit is the Nintendo design philosophy.

>>723083087
Silent Hill 2 is fairly layered. There's really not much competition in this artform.

Klonoa.... :3

>>723083094
>merit
>design philosophy
It's just a video game.

>>723084269
Its not. Its spacejew weapon against humanity.

>>723084269
>it's just slop
like everything else you consume

Retry. Klonoa isn’t in the title of the thread, klonoafags will never find it

>>723083853
Hot sex boy

>>723077473 (OP)
>Does a game need human characters for you to take it seriously?
The only characters are human characters. What do you expect? A dog character? It would be really simplistic in motivations and wouldn't be that compelling. That's why all the dog stories for little kids usually involve the dog dying and the message is along the lines of "good boys love you no matter what".

>>723084430
That's your jewish mitosis card? Sure why not

>>723084594
A Klonoa thread was still up when I made this. I'm just using screenshots from two different games with the same writer since the plots are sort of similar.

>>723084649
Klonoa is a cat, and the game has fairly good writing.

>>723084495
Okay? When do you plan on engaging in genuine thought-provoking discussion?

>>723084967
You dismissed my statement and now you're mad because I act dismissive. LMAO faggot plz.

>>723084649
Oh please. Anthropomorphizing non human things is one of the most human traits we have. How else do you think Jews managed to infiltrate human society so fully?

>>723085040
wut

>>723077473 (OP)
Honestly yes, human characters are simply easier to connect with at a fundamental level than anything else. And if your furries are essentially humans I can't help but wonder why you decided to make furry characters instead of humans.

>>723085319
I made them furries because I can't draw humans.

Sexual degenerates ruined furry characters forever.

>>723077473 (OP)
no and anyone with that mentality is some combination of low iq and low empathy. incapable of connecting with or understanding, or even trying to, anything that may appear alien or not look and act exactly like themselves. may also be insecurity about sincerely connecting with anything non normative.

>>723085441
Honestly this is probably the closest to a good reason to use furries.

>>723079501
>Yes, as well as every single player game that isn't based on scoring.
People who unironically believe this are silly. There's room for all types of games.

>>723085556
There are others that have to do if you need to play with assumptions. Furries are a cleaner slate and some stories can benefit from that.

Though even if I could draw humans I'd use furries because fuck you.

>>723085650
Justin Wong? More like Just is Wrong LMAO!

>>723085463
I don't think the father of Anime was that bad of a person.

>>723079501
>playing scoreslop
>"hurr durr i got da biggur numburrr"
(You)

>>723086159
LMAO literally me when I play Balatro.

>>723085319
There are good reasons to draw furries.

>>723077473 (OP)
i hate other humans.

>>723089224
You don't need to be this spiteful.

So many games that let you play as cool nonhumans get shafted.
Primal Rage? Sequel replaced the dinosaurs with giant humans and you have to do a code to play as the originals (The sequel was also canceled anyway after being bought out to avoid competing with MK, fuck you Midway).
Bloody Roar? Dead series.
Spyro? In the Xbox vault of neglected IPs.
Scrimblo platformers in general? Cash grab remasters at best.
All those DEI initiatives and we ended up getting even less diverse characters. Just let me play as a damn monster ffs. At least there are some indie games out there, but not nearly enough.

>>723090196
oh no?

>game has bullshit plot twist
oh wow how deep

>>723083853
God I fucking wish boys were FUCKING real…

>>723090031
i do, actually

Spitefully teasing Klonoa and messing up his hair and tickling him even when he tells me to stop!

Klonoa giving me a klojob

>>723096505
no

>>723077473 (OP)
what's the name of the game on the bottom?

>>723099695
Radia Senki

>>723078865
Fine, there will be random QTEs in my cutscenes.

>>723099941
Thank you!

>>723077473 (OP)
It depends on the non-human characters, I think, as well as the type of story a game is trying to tell.
Klonoa made me feel things, but I couldn't take Sonic seriously to save my life.

>>723098035
Please?

>>723102627
You just make me more horny when you look at me like that Klonoa. I like ya and I want ya. We can do this the easy way or the hard way.

I don't think the majority of /v/ is capable of recognizing quality writing. They are hardwired to be angry toward anything that respects their intellect.

>>723077473 (OP)
Never really thought about it, but yeah I guess I'd need humanoid characters to relate to. I have yet to play Klonoa so I guess Ill see, him and Gantz were alright in Namco x Capcom though.

Kemoshota peepee!

>>723077473 (OP)
Yes.

>>723078946
kids only care about fun
adults care about responsibility

>>723105752
>60% of people are sociopaths
seems legit

>>723077686
Ok great. Now does a game need human characters for you to take it seriously?

>>723106058
Crime noir stories are for subhumans, what's your point?

>>723106161
good morning saar

>>723106245
>people relate to millennials
demonstrates that souls arent real

>>723106245
>"We can't have non-humans, they wouldn't be relatable!"
And they think faggots (Like 3% of the human population) are?

>>723106292
you didn't understand the post retard, that's not a jeet prompting an ai, it's someone posting fans asking a dev why they wouldn't make non-human planeswalkers and the dev repeatedly saying "Nobody relates to them haha"

>>723077759
people like to say that stories don't matter, yet the games that have the longest staying power and are talked about the longest are almost always games with a strong focus on its narrative
>fallout new vegas
>kotor
>undertale

>>723077759
Yes. Games should be about gameplay. If I want a story I'll read a book and no game story will ever be superior to a book so it's silly to try to create "serious" games.

>inb4 people who have clearly never read a book start listing off games with "good" stories

>>723106245
Shit like this is what really outs game stories as infantile slop. Scifi novels are filled with alien protagonists, but they're not aimed at an audience of NPC cattle who are biologically incapable of empathizing with something that doesn't look identical to them.

>>723106058
Retarded review but the game wasn't really all that great unfortunately.
Though I still find it incredibly silly how the anti-black racism allegory is entirely about the fur color, despite there also being elements of nationality based racism and chinese animals still being ethnically chinese so an asian equivalent. And also shit like reptiles being discriminated.

Like, either make it so there's racism against non-european animals that represent other races, or shit like expanding on anti-reptile/bird/whatever racism from mammals which then becomes stand in for real races.
Having basically both of those and then the main racism the plot focuses on being simply dark fur is kinda fucking silly.

>>723077473 (OP)
I take games with non-human characters more seriously than I do ones without.

>>723108724
People still play Sonic and Super Mario despite those games barely having any story. A game can just be dumb fun sometimes.

>>723113362
>races with low empathy irl also have low empathy ingame
Shocking!

>>723077473 (OP)
The bottom actually sounds more realistic.
Top is some jackoff trying to jackoff to its own writing

>>723078979
Unironically though. A good artist can tell a story with just one picture and no words. A picture is worth a thousand words after all.

no. it doesn't even need characters. it just needs a proper understanding of human behaviour and how it reacts to stimuli.

>>723084649
. Dogs make great protagonists because the audience instantly loves them and wants to see them succeed. Something bad happens to a dog its going to get a reaction from the audience. Even the fear of something bad happening is enough.

>>723114298
yeah if you think about it I'm really smart for liking pictures more than words

>>723085319
>human characters are simply easier to connect with at a fundamental level than anything else.
How? Any time I see people on screen they have to earn my interest. Meanwhile a dog I will automatically like because its cute and friendly.

>And if your furries are essentially humans I can't help but wonder why you decided to make furry characters instead of humans.
Aesthetic preference.

>>723077759
You see why The Wind in the Willows has main characters who are a Mole, Rat , a Toad and Badger.

>>723114031
What is this from?