Thread 723083942

>increases your frames
Is DLSS a meme?

>>723083942 (OP)
Very good, excellent. Now lets see the input lag.

>>723084165
So frame gen is a bag of shit but how is DLAA? I've been using it native because I like how it makes things sharper but that's a me thing. I've got no clue what it's actually doing.

>>723083942 (OP)
How am i dupposed to be able to see the fps in a static image, retard

>>723083942 (OP)
>creates fake AI hallucinations between the real frames
No saar, it's very good

FPS
DLSS
SR
FG
RR
BR
GG
NO RE

>>723084957
Nothing, its AA. The latency comes from the fake frames.

>>723084957
DLAA is great. And frame gen is good if you have a high refresh rate monitor AND you already get 60+ fps in games. It sucks for low-end cards because going from 30 fps to 120 fps feels like ass like in >>723084165

Also smooth motion is great for all the old games that only go up to 60 fps.

Oh god we're back to N64 frame rates

>>723083942 (OP)
I have an AMD card, so it's a meme, sweaty. :3

Why didn't we all just invest to it? If 3 years ago you put 10k on Nvidia it would be 120k today. Or 100k and you would have over a million. Wasn't it obvious that Nvidia was doing well? It's literally so over.

>latency increases with each frame generation
So whats the point? I don't get it.

>>723083942 (OP)
SS FGT 14.88

>>723085719
AMD are even better at fake frames than goyvidia lol
You can enable FSR4 on any application just by going into the AMD driver and switching it on, this also lets you use frame gen...its utter dog shit, causes artifacts, input delays, inaccuracy from all the inserted copy/paste frames that pad out the FPS
BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE 200FPS (50 real frames 150 fake) NOW right? hahahhaha

>>723083942 (OP)
It's a drop in image quality / detail in exchange for more performance. A trade as old as time, as far as real-time 3D graphics go. I'd say the drop in quality is often quite small in comparison to the increase in performance you get.

>>723083942 (OP)
i used fsr for a while and it worked nicely to get me to 60 fps on an old ass card. it sold me on frame gen, especially when you get older and your reflexes start slowing down a bit.

>>723085810
if you work in the industry, now the question is "is this a bubble"

>>723085810
now look at the price of gold

>>723086032
Same except opposite outcome. The visual artifacts are so bad and noticeable in FSR 1.0 i’d rather turn down the resolution and just use RSR for scaling.
Looking at how the 4th gen stuff is on either amd/nvidia side still doesn’t loon worth it. At least frame gen and the associated latency are separate settings.

>>723086271
It's like 3x over 10 years? Still Nvidia is quadruple of that and in shorter time + it was in news all the time. I just feel like fucking retard thats all and I wish some other people will feel like retards too and I'm not just alone.

>>723086350
Stellar blade

>>723083942 (OP)
Modern graphics cards are aren't "true" graphics cards anymore in the sense that they haven't improved much on actual computer graphics rendering in almost a decade.
All the recent advancements in computer graphics cards have been AI tools.
All the new tech has just been graphics card getting better at processing AI guessing and generating what the next frame might look like and calling that "graphics".
It's why games looked blurry now.
Graphics cards aren't actually generating frames you see, they render the frames at fucking 480p and then have AI upscale the frames.

It's like improving computer graphics; coming up with new graphics techniques or improving the graphics pipeline, have become an after thought in fucking computer graphics.

>>723086589
>they haven't improved much on actual computer graphics rendering in almost a decade
I mean, they keep getting faster and faster which means they can render fancier stuff in real time, what kind of improvement do you mean?

>>723085912
You don’t need to turn on fsr4: afmf is available for anything newer than rdna1. It’s really good latency-wise, but has artifacts that vary in severity depending on the game. FSR3.1 and higher also has framegen capabilities that have slightly worse latency but look better than afmf. You can combine both to effectively get mfg but it still feels like shit to play.

>>723086032
You dont have slow reflexes. The image you are seeing is 5 frames behind the real one. Thats what frame gen does retard. It has 10ths of seconds delay by inserting copy/pasted frames between real ones.
Basically, you are incredibly dumb for using it and buying any $300 modern gpu will play any game just fine rather than using 10yo e-waste.
>i cant afford $300
you spend more on your cell phone plan/booze/weed/fast food so grow up child. mid market gpus are fucking cheap and all you need. literally no one has 5080/90s its less than 1.5% of the market. so dont listen to the paid shills and shit brain flexers here.

>>723086484
Stellar blade

Stellar blade!

>>723086880
Stellar blade

>>723083942 (OP)
let me guess
frame 1 - 20 fps
frame 2 - 63 fps with lowest latency
frame 3 - 40 fps with 60 meme frames, shitload of latency maybe even above frame 1
frame 4 - same shit but hotter gpu?

>>723085912
I don't use goyvidia because I'm not a goy. I use Advanced Mechanical Dreidels because I celebrate Yom Kippur.

>>723083942 (OP)
They are literally tranny frames. They will never be real frames.

>>723087262
Stellar blade

>>723084957
DLAA is DLSS but with its own preset.
The smart thing to do is to just use DLSS but use the tweaker to increase its resolution, close to the native that you play at. This especially on 1080p solves 80% of DLSS quality issues at that res.

>>723084165
100% worth it for single player games with heavy RT like ray reconstruction

>>723086589
>i dont play not native so everything looks bad
>that means gpus are all bad
The raw compute power of a 9070xt gpu is over 7x what a titan Z was 10 years ago. Titans Z was $3000 back then, a 9070xt is $600. You have brain rot. GPUs are good prices today...no one buys top end, its not worth it.

>>723087372
Stellar blade

>>723087358
Stellar blade

>>723087731
Stellar blade

>>723085912
FSR framegen sucks massive nog ass, it's not anywhere near dlss fg

>>723085810
>investing means putting your money into the kinds of shitty companies that ruin everything
>this is the only way to escape being a slave in america anymore
This is why we're doomed

Frame gen will never be real performance.

DLSS is good, but it's not deal breaker anymore, as FSR4 caught up and is better than DLSS3. Whether it's better or worse than DLSS4 is arguable, since DLSS4 has been having issues with UE5 titles with disocclusion artifacts lately, but I think they're so close that it's irrelevant.

>>723087951
>DLSS is good
*upscaling

>>723084000
Lower than AMD in most cases thats for sure. Reflex cuts latency in nearly half, frame gen adds about 1 frame time of latency every time you go up a multiplier. Lower with V-sync off since frame time fluctuations hide it.

>>723083942 (OP)
it's a crutch for bad developers and we're stuck holding the bag

>>723086350
i don't really mind the graphical quality dropping as long as the game is running at 60 fps.

>>723086979
it's not like i don't play older games too, my reflexes are definitely not what they used to be and as a result i truly don't notice the difference as much but that was with fsr3. the lesson i learned from using fsr was that there's no reason for me to buy a top of the line gpu when new cheap ones will get the job done with some upscaling.

>>723085912
Not only does FSR FG suck, AMD anti-lag 2 is basically DOA. Truly an awful experience. Literally can't play any fast-paced games without Reflex. It's even noticeable on those AMD handhelds vs entry level laptops with nvidia.

>>723088072
Reflex doesn't magically cut input lag. Reflex just unfucks the input when being bottlenecked by GPU - that's it when GPU is running at absolute max utilization.

You can fix the input lag yourself by capping the framerate, either in-game, via drivers or external software like MSI Afterburner/RTSS.

AMD Anti Lag 2 essentially does the same thing as Reflex, except somehow lately Reflex is fucked up and causes performance drops for some reason in some games.

But overall Reflex and Anti Lag 2 are redundant if you know what you're doing.

>>723087731
Stellar blade

>>723088228
>anti-lag
>reflex
It's the same as capping your framerate lmao

>>723088378
Well that's just not true, you can test it yourself.

>>723088341
Perfect couple

>>723083942 (OP)
DLSS as in super resolution / upscaling? Not a meme
Frame generation? A meme if your base frame rate (especially 1% lows) is under 50fps. Even then I'd call it a meme below 60.

>>723085185
More frames = more color, retard

Yes, it's a meme, generating fake frames for image data is not the same as increasing frame rate. If you're getting 20FSP with it off, you may get more image data by turning it on, but you will reduce your frame rate as it's now using that very same computing power to generate those fake frames.

>>723088657
You're supposed to turn it on when you're already at/or near 60fps
All of the gpus capable of using mfg are capable of hitting 100-ish fps in 99% of recent games anyways.

>>723088771
>recent games
>100-ish fps

>>723083942 (OP)
>Is DLSS a meme?
Depends. The upscaling component? It's unironically the best way to render games at the moment. DLAA or MAYBE quality at 1080p, quality-balanced at 1440p, at 4k even performance looks great.

The frame gen part however is very niche, depends on game, depends on person, etc. But discussion surrounding this topic is impossible because 1) Nvidia put framegen under the same naming umbrella as upscaling, which leads to 2) retards not understanding that upscaling is a completely different thing from framegen, thereby thinking DLSS innately adds input lag.

What happened to FSR Redstone?

>>723089279
It's still coming out this year

It also causes unavoidable ghosting, unfortunately. I tried DLSS for about 2 minutes in Stellar Blade before I lost patience with the constant visual artifacts.

>>723089279
Doesn't matter, there's no way the ai framegen and denoiser will actually work well on RDNA4 (or earlier)
>>723089318
lol

>>723089401
You are already getting ghosting with the game's standard antialiasing, you just don't care about it.

>>723089418
The point of Redstone is that it runs entirely on shaders - basically the GPUs run the code natively, while DLSS requires dedicated hardware made specifically for AI tasks

>>723089318
Doubt.

>>723089401
Still on a 1080p display?

>>723089496
Please. DLSS produces a translucent, distorted clone of your character during *any* animation. Trailing, ghosting, smearing, etc. are all caused by enabling DLSS, not TAA.

Can you tweak the tranny frames to work from a minimum defined base frames (be native raw or DLSS)?
it would be nice if I could set it to 120 and let the GPu fill up the rest with tranny frames up to refresh rate, otherwise it's useless.

>>723090223
noVideo will introduce this for sure with their next GPUs.
Lossless Scaling has that option right now but the image quality, latency and performance hit is awful.
Fake frames right now all only worth it if you have high end system with 200+Hz display.

>>723090223
They'll probably do something like that and limit it to 5000 and later cards. Or not, not like it matters much when everybody just uses vrr now anyways.
Lossless offers this option, but it sucks even more ass than regular lsfg

>>723085810
You think that's bad I actually invested 1k into amd when it was like $5 before ryzen released but sold it all around $30
Now do the math how much I would have by now...

>>723090917
>not like it matters much when everybody just uses vrr now anyways.
it matters for one thing only, saturating the monitor refresh rate so you benefit from the very low response time on sample and hold displays and perceive almost no motion blur

Imagine going 120 fps (enough input latency for me, It's skill issues beyond thot) and a 500 monitor, where the GPU is able to fill the rest with tranny frames. I would benefit from both worlds.

>>723088994
>upscaling to 1080p
>on any modern gpu
do you have any comprehension of just how powerful even low/mid tier gpus are today? every single one of them can run 2k native in pretty much any game on the market so long as they have over 8gb vram. DLSS bypasses the vram check as rendering 720p uses fuck all vram as the image is tiny.
unless you have a really old gpu there is no reason at all to use dlss. non what so ever.
>4k
dont care. 2k is the current standard and will be for many years.

>>723094142
>do you have any comprehension of just how powerful even low/mid tier gpus are today? every single one of them can run 2k native
Meaningless statement, because framerate matters just as much as resolution. I would rather run at 1080p output with 90fps than 1440p output at 60fps.
>unless you have a really old gpu there is no reason at all to use dlss. non what so ever.
DLSS lets you take a very small image quality hit for a drastic upgrade in framerate. That's a worthwhile tradeoff to most sane people.

>>723084957
DLAA is one of the only AAs i like since SMAA, which is a minor miracle i suppose.

>>723094142
>unless you have a really old gpu there is no reason at all to use dlss. non what so ever.
Actually the better your GPU, the higher resolution you should be using. And the higher your resolution, the better DLSS works. Everyone with 4k monitors uses DLSS when they can.

>>723094697
You can use DLSS tweaker and give 1080p the same baseline as balanced 1440p and above which everyone agrees looks great.
The issue with 1080p is that their base scalings are based on ratios and the base render ends up underwhelming for the model in that case.
Just tweak the ratio for 1080p higher up to match the same base resolution for 1440p balanced.

>>723083942 (OP)
why does it keep getting pinker the more fake pixels it gets?

>>723094920
>The issue with 1080p
The issue with 1080p is that it just sucks in modern graphics no matter what you do. Devs target the resolutions of 1440p-2160p and they tune the particle count and asset fidelity accordingly, so it's near-impossible to make the game look good at 1080p. Either it looks like a jaggy crawling mess without AA, or it looks like an overly softened smudgy mess with TAA/DLAA, or it looks visibly undersampled and mushy with upscaling. The real fix for 1080p if you want good graphics is to just ditch it.

I like it
I was playing X4 with so many units on the screen and the FPS usually it would be bottle neck by CPU dropped to 20fps
but with fake frame at least it look smooth at 60+fps
and since I played it like a strategy game it doesnt matter if the frame arent real cause I can still ordering fleet normally
some ship on the radar might jump around but I just pretend it was some kind of radar lag

>>723095242
Skill issue on your part to be fair.

>>723096392
There's no skill issue. I spent years trying to make 1080p output look good. The only acceptable compromise is combining DSR/VSR/DLDSR with upscaling, usually 4K DSR + DLSS50%, which is just an inefficiency nightmare for just slightly more image stability.

Once you get a higher resolution monitor you will realize 1080p in modern games just looks shit and there's no helping it.

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>>723084165
All the marketing for this crap is based on misleading advertising.
They compare the input lag of native 4K with native 1080p, upscaled to 4K via machine learning algorithms.
The correct thing to do would be to compare the input lag of the upscaled image with the real resolution, which they don't do because obviously their myopia-sim algorithms adds input lag.

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>make a huge pile of SHIT
>smear magic DLSS on it
Ah much better lol.
5090 enjoyers will love this game. Everyone else, get fucked.

>>723098952
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>>723085810
>Wasn't it obvious that Nvidia was doing well?
You were telling us back then that Nvidia was on the ropes and that we had to invest in AMD, or that simply the GPU market is going to crash in just two more weeks.

Of course with hindsight you can tell us exactly what we should have invested in...

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>>723083942 (OP)
Hold up dumbass. Treating AI gen frames like regular pipeline frames is for complete fucking morons. There are situations where it's desirable, but start with the absolute fundamentals.

Upscaling =/= frame gen. The former is excellent.

>>723099560
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>>723086773
>I mean, they keep getting faster and faster which means they can render fancier stuff in real time
Like PhysX?
That thing we lost the technology to replicate?

>a streamable schizo spammer
why?

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DLSS4 Frame gen is great as long as you get 120 FPS or above with it enabled. I use it on every game that properly implements it. I've tried FSR frame gen but it feels terrible in comparison.

>>723099605
I wasn't telilng anyone anything. I was completely ignorant on how the stocks even work. I knew Nvidia was doing well, *everyone* knew Nvidia was going well. It was going up for like 5 years and was in news as the best performing company.

But ofc I didn't do anything because lol it can't be that easy to make 10x your money lol. But now people are telling me that actually it was that easy, like what the fuck. I actually hate stocks how is this even legal. People just out there making money with money, something that I thought only millionares can do.

>>723099845
>manually typing the reply #s
Holy shit

>>723099845
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>>723083942 (OP)
Why is it running at 20fps in the first place

>>723100226
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>>723084000 (checked)
Input lag doesn't matter on most games, and even on those where it does, it's absolutely negligible unless you're a top 0.1% competitive player.

>>723100394
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>>723099892
>less fps equates to you needing it more but that means lots of guessing
>more fps equates to you needing it less but that means less guessing as native fps goes up
This means there is no”good” fps to use frame gen and it’s worthless by the way.

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>>723100394
forgot to mention in this post btw, but i'm a niggerslave goycattle who plays AAA console ports at 30fps. i love my hecking ghost of tsuhima and RE4 remake in Unreal Engine 5™

>>723100529
>>723100454
>>723100379
>>723100310
>>723100248
say that to my face and see what happens fool

>>723100560
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>>723100394
Size doesn’t matter either I heard.

>>723100548
Actually I'm playing Unicorn Overlord (pirated on an emulator on PC) right now, after getting tired of Songs of Syx and The Sims 3

can't remember the last AAA game I played. Probably RDR2 but I dropped it after about 3 hours when I was still in the fucking tutorial and just holding forward while watching not-cutscenes still.

>>723100454
I don't get it. Why is this man holding an anime?

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>>723100461
Idk what the fuck you are trying to say but 60 FPS with frame gen to 120 FPS is better than native 70 FPS. I have used it for multiple hours on and off in the same game and came to this conclusion by the way and not making up things like a person such as yourself.

>>723100691
The guys who seethe about frame gen and input lag are the graphics equivalent of audiophiles who insist that you will never hear the music correctly unless you buy $10000 worth of special hardware and cables.

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>>723086271
people are hoarding gold and the rich are building large exclusive compounds and doomsday bunkers
signs are on the fucking wall and we're just sitting here talking about video games

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>>723100657
>plays shovelware JRPGs and woman life sims
yes, it goes without saying input lag doesn't matter for you, you'd be around bronze level in any game that white men play

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>>723084165
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>>723100780
the guys who seethe about frame gen and input lag are the graphics equivalent of hi-fi guys who insist lossy encodings like mp3 are lower quality than lossless waveform data
>they're right

>>723094697
i play native 2k in every game.
when i swap to 1080p dlss it looks like fucking dogshit and has obvious graphical errors so you can shut the fuck up nvidia stock owner. 4k memers are retarded, if a 5090 cant do 4k why the fuck are you pushing 4k on your 5050ti? poor fag.

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>>723094920
>balanced 1440p and above which everyone agrees looks great.
I don't agree, I'm never using less than quality at 1440p. I'd prefer not to render below 1080p in most cases and so will use a scale percentage of 75% if the game can handle it, otherwise it's quality at lowest. Balanced is fine on my 2880*1800 laptop, rendering at somthing like 1020p, even performance is fine at 900p. But balanced at 1440p is no good. It's entirely subjective of course so there's no real way for me to substantiate my argument besides that I feel that someone who doesn't mind it may have sub-optimal vision or maybe just a lower standard for quality.

>>723100548
Not him but I used to play at 1080p60hz with vysnc on back in the day on Battlefield 3 and still trounced everybody else, even though that meant drastically more input lag than anything else. The people bitching about the input lag of framegen have a point when the starting FPS is really bad, but once you have at least 60-70fps it works well. Millions and millions of people played with much worse input lag than we have today for many years without losing their mind over it.

>>723094448
>That's a worthwhile tradeoff to most sane people.
not if the end result looks barely better than something from 5 years ago that ran twice as fast

>>723100938
Nothing ever happens.

>>723101212
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I love input lag because it makes the game feel more cinematic, google stadia was my favorite platform since it felt really squishy and laggy, quite satisfying. The next best thing is AAA console ports with 4x frame gen. The lag gets really squishy and nice on those, I love when I tell the character to turn around and it takes a second or two - feels very analog and squishy

>>723101183
>4k memers are retarded, if a 5090 cant do 4k why the fuck are you pushing 4k
My 1080p upscaled to 4k looks objectively better than anything your 1440p output can give you. Not to mention it runs slightly better too.

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>>723101218
>i played a casual console FPS at 60hz and did well in pubs
proud of you sport
unfortunately very meaningless

>>723101254
>something from 5 years ago
5 years ago TAA was the norm for 3D graphics, and DLSS is magnitudes better than TAA.

>>723101378
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Where's my (You) give it to me NOW

>>723101378
Well if you're playing a professional esports game than I have no clue why you're even discussing frame gen, because no professional gaymes support it anyway. No one ever asked for framegen in shit like CSGO or Overwatch, and no one will, but in anything more casual than that it's a viable gimmick (sometimes).

>>723101447
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>>723087605
>9070xt is $600
You fucking wish, it's $700 for the cheapest model last I checked.

Also I'm not sure where you even got the x7 Titan Z number from.

>>723084165
This goes against my poorfag narrative

>>723101581
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>>723084957
DLAA is probably one of the best usecases of AI there is since anti aliasing is fundamentally a very ugly problem to deal with if you don't want to straight out have a game at a higher resolution and downscale. It is an usecase where the effects of the AI are limited and the gains are high

>>723101435
https://streamable.com/rj4jag https://streamable.com/rj4jag https://streamable.com/rj4jag yes https://streamable.com/rj4jag

>>723083942 (OP)
>render scale goes down
>fps goes up
WOW
WHO KNEW?????????????

>>723083942 (OP)
XeSS is superior

DLSS for performance good
DLSS (transformer) for performance is great and looks basically as good as native
DLSS (frame gen) is good IF YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING OVER 60 FPS to smooth it out visually

the issue is a $1000 video card should be able to run games on 4k max settings (or mostly max if some of the settings are 'future proofing' settings) 120fps without dlss

even AMDbrained tech outlets like Hardware Unboxed and TPU have admitted that at this point in time you'd have to be a turbocontrarian not to use DLSS upscaling if you have access to it, but leave it to /v/ to stubbornly die on a hill that already fell a few years ago

>>723101779
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>>723101212
>I don't like to render under 1080p that's why I prefer quality preset.
1707 x 960 is its base resolution, also I usually tweak the scaling factor to result in 0 error 16:9 ratio.
so for 1080p 0.9 means 1728x972 same as quality but it;s overkill,
0.775 is 1488x837 which is enough for AI it seems, as a sidenote various ai models for other things tend to work better with images above the 700 pixel height to be fair, for humans as low as 500p can be fine but for AI the more the merrier for upscaling.

>>723101784
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>>723101510
because it's used in games like borderlands 4 to justify horrific optimization that causes the game to run at 40fps on a 5090
since you can just get """"good framerate""" with 4x frame gen (whilst playing at 100ms+ input lag)

DLSS4 is magic to me, far more impressive to me than raytracing shit

1080p FSR 4 Ultra Performance

>>723102045
>2
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>>723101295
made me kek

>>723102162
https://streamable.com/rj4jag https://streamable.com/rj4jag https://streamable.com/rj4jag yes https://streamable.com/rj4jag

>>723102052
>because it's used in games like borderlands 4 to justify horrific optimization that causes the game to run at 40fps on a 5090
I don't know of anyone that actually fell for this justification, every time a game with terrible performance tried to use FG as a crutch it got eviscerated and dragged through the mud for it.

>>723102221
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>>723101340
>My 1080p upscaled to 4k looks objectively better than anything your 1440p output
If that image is supposed to be your supporting evidence then you need to get your fucking eyeballs replaced. What the fuck is going on with the red circle up top? Look how fucked it is with those disconnections on what is supposed to be solid lines. Fake, busted garbage everywhere and you claim it's better, what a fucking joke.

>>723102286
And people keep buying them anyway.

>>723102297
>1
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>>723102354
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>>723102687
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>>723102749
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>>723102074
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>>723102912
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>>723102987
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>>723101019
damn I bet you're really hardcore in league of legends, you pure Aryan spirit

>>723103289
project more gachanigger

>>723101019
>plays shovelware JRPGs
>Unicorn Overlord
it's not a JRPG, and it's great faggot

>>723103138
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>>723103346
never played a gacha in my life, and I bet Songs of Syx would be too complex and hardcore for that supposedly white brain of yours. 110 IQ minimum, sorry pal

>>723103406
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>>723103391
I had to scroll a long time to find gameplay of this game. I wonder why you only see images of the cover and the characters, but not the gameplay?

Could it be because it's a phone game tier shovelware JRPG? LOL

Why does frame gen/GPU talk make everybody schiz out?

>>723103573
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>>723102341
1080p upscaled to 4k does look better even than native 1440p in just about every way. I am sorry if that makes you angry.

>>723103573
if you look at /v/ "game dev" threads you realize that a lot of unironic indians use this board, and they are all making youtube tutorial UE5 games that run at 10fps. for them, things like frame gen are tied to their indian fantasy of their "game" selling

>>723103493
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I have safe racism fatigue.

>>723103493
kys retarded faggot

>>723103745
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>>723083942 (OP)
dlss SaaR + FaG + RetaRd

>>723103745
>I have safe racism fatigue, saar

>>723103784
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>>723103803
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>>723103803
>but what about indians!
Cool, do niggers now.

>>723103947
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>>723103493
It's not shovelware or a JRPG, anon. It's about tactics and strategy and a much more complex version of gambits or custom party AI, like the original Dragon Age or FF12 I think it was.

>>723083942 (OP)
Here you go OP. Good work!
Keep telling the cattle how good it is. They're too dumb and blind to notice the issues and our stock price keeps climbing.

>>723085810
Everything sounds smart in hindsight with investing, but very few things are a sure bet even if a company is doing well.