Thread 723223364

if God is all-powerful, He cannot be all good. And if He is all good, then He cannot be all-powerful - Gwyn, Lord of Cinder

>>723223364 (OP)
>rollslop

If you're all-powerful you can exist as a paradox ez
like christians who serve their savior's murderers

Where is that quote from originally, anyways? I know Lex Luthor in Batman v Superman quoted it but it's some famous theological paradox, isn't it?

>>723228132
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilemma

>>723228132
i think the longer version of it is called the epicurean paradox

>>723223364 (OP)
>Le reddit paradox
God is all powerful and all good. This mortal life is a trial to test us and prepare us to meet God and be judged. God gives us free will and and to choose good from evil. Some people use their free will to choose evil and consequentially cause suffering for others. So God allows le hecking bad things and le hecking suffering to happen under his watch. This is too complicated for midwits to comprehend

>>723232521
why does god "test" innocent toddlers by having them be raped and tortured? guess the jewish god is living up to his hebrew nature

>>723232521
>So God allows le hecking bad things and le hecking suffering to happen under his watch
... Why? Sounds incredibly evil. Imagine you're watching as a man begins to rape, torture and skin alive a toddler in front of you. At any point you can instantly kill the man and save the toddler at no risk to yourself. You instead choose not to, because that would be an infringement on his free will. This makes you worse, more cowardly, more evil, than that guy himself.

>>723223364 (OP)
Humans' mistake is trying to comprehend the intentions of beings both higher and lower than them by assuming that they, too, must act in accordance with humans' lines of thought as they understand it.
If some fine day you ever manage to sublimate to a higher state of being, you'll understand that your concept of "good" and "bad" simply does not apply at all.

>>723232521
>Free will has to exist so god can tell when people are going to sin (even though god created everything including the concept of doing bad things)

why wouldn't he just read the person's mind and tell they're going to sin? why would he allow the person to actually victimize people and inflict suffering, if he omnipotently knows the intent ahead of time?

in fact, if he's omnipotent, why does he need these tests in the first place - he would automatically know what will happen in any scenario, no need to create child rape-torture as an elaborate simulation to find things out

>>723232838
>It's actually good that god is having children be raped and tortured at this very moment, we just can't understand the mysterious ways he works in!

What a disgusting Jew religion. Very fitting that the messiah is a Jew and Jews are god's chosen people in Christianity. Ultimate cuckold religion for nonsentient goyim.

>>723232838
>sublimate
funniest shit is when christfags use a word out of their thesaurus that doesn't fit their post at all because they know they're perceived as low-IQ retards (which, statistically, they are)

>>723232521
>God gives us free will
Free will doesn't exist in the bible

>>723233006
>It's actually good that god is
There you go again, thinking that your human notions of good and bad hold any weight in the court of higher-order entities.

>>723232597
The wicked will receive their punishment.
The children will inherit the kingdom of heaven.
The suffering is temporary in the scheme of eternity. Rape and murder are indeed horrible, but the victims in mortality do not suffer from them for all eternally. Not physical, emotional, nor psychological suffering persists into eternity in Heaven.
>>723232860
>why does he ..tests in the first place
For our eternal growth. Our souls and our character do not grow nor evolve without evolutionary pressures

>>723233621
>The wicked will receive their punishment.
>The children will inherit the kingdom of heaven.
why is allowing children to be raped and tortured part of this? especially because god invented the ability to rape and torture. (encourages it in the bible too, by the way, on various occasions)

what an evil jewish religion. i guess you can't expect more from something written by several jewish merchants where the messiah is jewish and it's explicitly stated that jews are god's chosen and the goyim are lesser

>>723232521
Yes brother I Know and I knew.

>>723223364 (OP)
Begging the question
False dilemma

>>723223364 (OP)
If God was real he'd use the mimic tear and play a spearmanii

>>723228132
Some greek philosopher from the year 600 BC.
Athenians lost faith in their gods following defeat in the Polyponesian war.
Also the gods at the time were not believed to be all-powerful, the stories are usually about them being better than humans.

>>723223364 (OP)
>inhales
Wrong.

>>723232521
Free will is nonexistent, if god is omniscient, so he already knows my fate.

>Allah permits his prophet to marry a toddler. How can anyone see that as a religion worthy of worship? It’s obviously evil
>Oh, the slaughter of amalekites infants is a holy command and cannot be judged by our human perspective on morality
Which is it?

>>723235610
Correct

>>723232521
Does God know what you'll eat for dinner tomorrow?

>>723235804
Christcucks will tell you the old testament doesn't count even when Jesus and Paul considered it Canon.

>>723235804
my favorite parts of the bible are the bits where ancient jewish tribes write about how raping + murdering groups of goyim is very holy and god blesses it

see: amalek

>>723235610
Predestination and calvinism are just as retarded as your fedora ass. Since it seems you don't have free will I guess you'll keep on samefagging, sperging, and bitching since God made you a bitch

>>723236872
>and bitching since God made you a bitch
I can't believe he'd do that, so much for fairness, isn't that nigga supposed to be all-good?