Thread 723253715

So many people seem to be against technological progress these days. The Left are against AI, the poor are against upgrading and the dumb are against science. If you're against advances in technology, you're essentially Amish. What's wrong with people these days?

The DGX Spark, a new, AI-powered, high-tech supercomputer will soon be available to the public for the low price for $4000. A "gaming PC" will no longer cut it. A console definitely won't cut it. Don't even mention smartphones. If you want a gaming rig that's going to be top of the line, you want this product.

>>723253715 (OP)
What's the point of this thread? This isn't going to be used for vidya games.

AI in it's current incarnation and in the way most people understand it has brought literally no advancements to any field but has caused regression in several, all the while having a huge negative impact on infrastructure, jobs and the environment
There's other forms of AI, like those used to identify cancer cells, but those aren't visible to public and aren't discussed much

>>723253715 (OP)
It's not for gamers. By the way if you buy anything other than a middle range gaming PC you are an idiot.

>>723253909
Where do people go to get paid to shitpost? But at this rate I think it's outsourced to AI anyway.

>>723254208
The sad reality of the situation is that thisbsite doesn't get the kind of traffic that attracts astroturfing, a lot of these dudes do it for the love of the game

>128GB of vram
is that enough for the big LLMs?

>>723253715 (OP)
Elon looks like a caricature

>>723253715 (OP)
But can it play Crysis? xD

>>723253973
We use AI in my workplace and I use it for various aspects of game development as a hobby myself.

>>723253973
I disagree. It's widest spread usage fills a mandatory niche in a time of need, which is answering search questions without needing to sift through a dozen engagement-ad-optimized bullshit articles. AI answers aren't perfect, but today, search engines are less perfect. It saves time and effort, and "ask your AI" has replaced "ask google" for a lot of static information quarries. Beside this, having an offline, local wiki of human knowledge available for every PC is also a huge technological advancement, although it's need has been shrinking with the increasingly reliable, redundant coverage of internet.

As for "any field," I know you are wrong because I have two friends whose workplaces have started requiring AI. One works in HR where employees are required to submit their reports to a tailored llm for cleaning it up before submission. The other is in government IT (for 9 years) and AI has a variety of uses to his job, which he hasn't explained in detail to me but he says he vastly prefers over the old ways. I also know of code-checking being a remarkable help in the field.

The hobbyist use of AI like art gens or erp or chatbots are just entertainment, neither good nor bad, just another way of wasting downtime.

The only regression caused by AI are those who believe in AI replacement rather than AI assistant. People who try having AI write their code for them, who have AI write their articles for them, people who are unable to tell prompt bias from fact - the only time AI is regressive is when people believe the human takes the backseat rather than guiding the wheel. With all that said, I also hate "the way most people understand it" which is thinking generative AI is somehow on a path to sentience, AGI, or the sci-fi understanding of "AI." It's like thinking video game npc AI is "THE" AI.

>>723255605
>AI answers aren't perfect
They sure aren't, often times they give you straight up incorrect information they hallucinated from nothing
This is an integral fault with the way LLMs work and the reason why they're unreliable for any kind of serious work

>20 armshit cores and a desktop 5070 gpu
>this will be $4000 goy
seriously?

>>723255056
YWNBAW

>>723256565
It's Ngoydia what did you expect?

Why hasn't Elon Musk been blacklisted yet?
So many leaders are still willing to meet and schmooze with him like he's just some guy even though he's a nazi

>>723253715 (OP)
So a SillyTavern machine.

>>723253715 (OP)
It’s not poor people’s fault that they’re poor. That’s why they are against upgrading. It’s an unfair system.

the panopticon is good actually, luddite chud

>>723255747
Indeed, but to correct you, it's not "hallucinated from nothing," it's "vomited back from it's training data." One of its integral faults is that training data can be contradictory.

Take for example a recent stealth /an/ thread on /v/, where someone asked if a venomous snake is immune to venom from its own bites. I was curious too and browser searched it. The articles I found were contradictory. Big, long articles you have to sift through about the history of snakes, what venom is, why snakes have venom, to finally find
>No, a snake is only safe from it's own venom when it's stored in specialized venom glands. If its venom enters its bloodstream, the snake will be affected the same as its prey...
and in another article
>Due to the prominence of accidental bites, snakes have evolved to be unaffected by their own brand of venom...
A dozen pages, a dozen conflicting answers with long justifications. Now when that junk gets fed into an AI, which set of data is it giving back, and how accurate was its training data in the first place? This is just a real example of "AI answers aren't perfect, but today, search engines are less perfect." For the purpose of this post, I threw the question into a small local model, and I find it funny that it gives a reasonable take on both sides and points out that different snakes have different means, unlike trying to answer the question from a browser search.

This isnt even good hardware compared to whats already available. Its just a cheapo dev kit.

>>723257352
for the rich sophisticated gooners

>>723257317
Elites don't actually care about muh rayycissm moral panic, shocking I know

>>723253715 (OP)
>Muh heckin' mini tech
Yawn

>>723253715 (OP)
>>>/g/

so who is going to invent a holodeck first ?

>>723257387
>vomited back from it's training data
It also randomly recombines its input data, which means it could, in principle at least, create new false information. The extent to which ChatGPT bullshit is due to factually incorrect input data versus vapid recombinations of different input data is a fundamentally unanswerable question, due to the impossibility of any sort of robust very high dimensional analysis.
But it still leaves us with the biggest conundrum of all: the only way to tell the wheat from the chaff is to already be an expert, and if you are an expert, what value does deep learning add?

>>723257506
The jewish elites sure do since they're ones programming the NPCs to call him a nazi

>>723257317
>Why hasn't Elon Musk been blacklisted yet?

Because most humans are unprincipled, ignorant, and tribal, they don't actually have personal beliefs, it's all a performance. I'd argue a delusional flat earther schizophrenic has more in their heart than the typical man.

I'm the only person on Earth who has actual conviction and rational thought.
You people always fail to show me real resolve.

>>723256663
Hop off his cock

>>723253715 (OP)
buy an ad, bought

>>723253715 (OP)
>you're essentially Amish
That supposed to be an insult?
>you want this product
No? Why would I? It offers nothing I need

>>723253973
AI made me way faster at programming. I tell it what I need. And it generates boilerplate way faster, just need to proof read it.
It lets me try different solutions literally 10x faster than before.
Before AI I would maybe try 1 or 2 solutions and if they worked I'd just go with them because I could not be bothered monkey coding. Now I have LLM shit out prototype code for me. Pretty sure that is how all the programmers use it

>>723253715 (OP)
>AI-powered
i have ai fatigue

>>723257317
do you live under a rock? the current government is pro nazi

>>723260996
Get off the internet, Amish. You're hurting your way of life.

>>723253823
128 GB of memory is already obsolete.

>>723253715 (OP)
Imagine the aura you have for the ceo of gaming to bow down to you

>>723258490
Fuck holodecks I want a go into videogames machine.

>>723261405
fuck off elon

>>723253715 (OP)
>AI-powered
lol

>>723260203
>it could, in principle at least, create new false information.
Naturally, but you're too cynical about it. The goal of gpt (not chatgpt. The actual backbone technology gpt) is to simulate how the human brain forms mental schemas and processes them. For example, a chemist who receives a new compound for the first time can only "create new false information about it," but he can use what he knows to draw conclusions about it from similar properties to other compounds. The more he knows, the better the guess, but it's still made up. Generative AI is the same. Visually, you see this readily in AI art. That's why you can say "Draw a spaceship in the style of X." X may never have drawn a spaceship before, but using keys from X's style and its understanding of what a spaceship is, it can "hallucinate"/"falsely"/"make up" what it would look like. I personally care more about text than art, but the visual clarity is apparent of something that is also true in text.

>what value does deep learning add?
I said it back towards the beginning, but assistance. Even expert programmers still make accidental errors, which can be obvious or hidden, and code-checking AI has helped people save tremendous time by helping narrow down the problem, especially if a code block is huge. A researcher with a dataset might not know the best way of explaining it in a paper, and an AI can assist in that. A writer might have a scene in mind, but having an art model spit out a dozen sketches of it, having the physical eye see it, can help him think about what to describe and inspire new trains of thought. An expert in a thing isn't an expert in everything, and having a second voice to bounce ideas off or consult with is useful in a professional setting.

I shouldn't have to argue for the merits of a second opinion or perspective. Right now, you can uncharitably claim that it is a retard's second opinion, but you cannot claim that this tool won't continue improving, increasing value.

>>723257380
I don't care about your sloppa art Romana I'm stealing a ship and getting out of here

>>723261549
brown

>>723254379
I get concerned about how many anons think they're surrounded by bots and AI here of all places. Bunch of schizos with guns.

How future proof is it for video games?

How much of the supercomputer is near a quantum computer for video games?

Is it likely a dev will code for it, or is that even necessary?

>>723263427
devs can code ON it not for it

>>723263760
It's not better to load the game into memory?

videogames?

>>723253715 (OP)
>The Left are against AI
AI is the only thing the left is right about.
>the poor are against upgrading
I'd have no trouble upgrading if they weren't, in fact, downgrades.
>the dumb are against science
Real science is fine. Science™ is a clown show.
>If you're against advances in technology, you're essentially Amish.
Based.

>>723253715 (OP)
AMD's new chip is better since it has a non-meme CPU, but the CUDA integration and clustering support will be more than worth the markup for commercial users.

>>723263834
what I mean is it's not plausible to make a game for it because consumers won't have it

>>723253715 (OP)
>has nothign to do with vidya
>but it was popular on twitter
>it gets posted here anyway
It's all so tiresome

>>723261405
SAAAAAR

>>723253715 (OP)
The two most overvalued useless dogshits in the history of mankind right next to each other and delivering gifts of the trash they produce.

The faggot that destroyed vidya
The faggot that destroyed cars


What a time to be alive!

>>723255305
Your game will be soulless dogshit

>4chan is so contrarian they love elon now
Amazing innit

>>723255605
just you wait for the ad infested version that will have to roll out sooner rather than later for this useless things to make any money

>>723255605
>It's widest spread usage fills a mandatory niche in a time of need
Creating positive GDP growth with negative job growth? Yeah great need if you're hoping to collapse the country

clown world

>>723255605
Literally ChatGPT generated reply, smart enough to add "no emdash" to the prompt though

>>723254909
For a quantized version of Qwen3 (full is 430GB)

>>723261063
>AI made me way faster at programming. I tell it what I need. And it generates boilerplate way faster, just need to proof read it.
Ah, another vibe coder shitting out garbage, just what we need
>b-b-b-BUT I PROOFREAD IT!!
If you're too lazy to write it, you're too lazy to properly examine and fix it

>>723253715 (OP)
do you really want to live in a world governed by medieval laws and enforced with godlike technology?

>>723253715 (OP)
Buy an ad.

>>723253973
I wish it would replace your posts

>>723265074
>t. Have never coded anything in his life

>>723253973
This is basically the reason. The most public and well-known implementations of AI are by far the least popular. I suspect google clogging their search results with nonsense sloppa summaries has done a lot of damage.

>>723265147
yes, both left and right have shown they're content with technofeudalism, just as long as the tech billionaires revere either george floyd or charlie kirk, the most important thing is our "team" winning everything else can burn.

>>723265000
>long post with coherent sentences must be AI
It doesn't sound like AI at all

>>723265286
>have
kek

>>723256565
howd they fit all this shit in that tiny box though

>>723265287
They're just using the cheapest possible AI for mass deployment. Google AI in searches spews out unbelievable bullshit. A half decent LLM would get the answers mostly right, especially with all the data available like Google has.