Thread 723322547

Oh yeah, that happened

>>723322547 (OP)
Doom 2016 is better than eternal and dark ages

>>723322681
>shit is better than vomit

>>723322547 (OP)
I just started playing, I knew something was off when people kept discussing the 2016 vs Eternal endless debate even after TDA released lol.

Props to ID to change the formula yet again I guess, but TDA was a big miss, I'm a parry enthusiast and the parry in this game fucking sucks, the weapons are boring all-rounders and the movement is too vertical with the retarded introduction of sprinting

>>723322806
Who is it even for? Eternal fans won't like the gameplay changes and 2016 fans will hate that it doubles down on the doomvengers cringe from Eternal.

>>723322547 (OP)
Press S to spit on this hack

>>723322681
Doom 1 and 2 are miles better than any other slop

>>723322887
i'm not that foul but oh boy does he have a punchable face

>>723322876
>Who is it even for?
For nobody, ID took every criticism to their games at face value and ruined their gameplay loop as a consequence.
Retards say glory kills kill the pace? Generic ragdoll physics it is then!
Retards say using all your arsenal is too mentally taxing? You can just play with one gun the entire game! Heck, even the guns don't matter because we have the OP shield
Retards say the game is too linear? Generic open zones with markers and without any semblance of level design it is then!
Retards snoys say the story is barebones? We go full le epic Marvel then!

>>723323272
This
They 100% listened to the loud minority of anti-Eternal whiners
The end result is a halfbaked mess, "good enough for Gamepass" type of game

>>723323272
So it effectively did everything /v/ shitters wanted.

>>723322547 (OP)
dead gaem lol

>>723323559
I just want the real 2016 sequel

>>723322547 (OP)
Normally i hate when people here immediatly call you shill for being excited for new games but i still remember how obvious the shills where in the first thread of this game when the trailer dropped. People praising it in a linguo no one here ever used.

>>723323632
STAND AND FIGHT

>>723322681
Simply not true.

>>723323632
I have to admit I was excited for it, but yeah, it was a hige disappointment

>>723323559
Yep. This is a lesson to NEVER cater to shitters. Eternal filtered bad FPS players and was very polarizing because of it, but Eternal had massively better skill expression.

>>723323701
i would never use this shit as promotional material. 2 of the 3 enemies on the screen derp out on the environment's geometry. the whole thing just screams under cooked and haphazardly thrown together. slop.

>>723323793
These parts were fun.

>>723322547 (OP)
I thought it was a lot of fun and a huge step up from the shit show that was eternal.

>>723323982
If you're a reddit mouthbreather sure

>>723323272
i'm one of those who didn't like Eternal much and i certainly didn't ask for whatever this new crap is. i think they are just out of touch

>>723324071
Cope and seethe retard lol

>>723324267
Your reddit DEI game crashed and failed, fucktard : >>723323576

>>723324039
Filtered!

>>723324320
Seethe and cope retard lol

>>723324394
Your reddit DEI game crashed and failed, fucktard

>>723324039
Eternal had better difficulty, skill expression and balancing, but Dark Ages was still a fun time.

>>723324474
Retard, seethe and cope lmao

>>723322547 (OP)
>unmemorable OST
>the story is presented with such seriousness, as if it has something to surprise and interest the player
>Repetitive, button-mashing levels with a dragon and mecha that boil down to parrying and hitting x100
I don't know what happened, I guess they surrounded themselves with yes-men, who were afraid to tell how boring it was

>>723322547 (OP)
Game had traction for like a week and then it vanished out of existence forever
This is what happens when you make a game for the masses, 80 bucks price tag, and with forced raytracing
They had the perfect formula with Eternal and threw it all away, how sad

>>723324591
Eternal filtering so many people scared them, so they went the other way, if Eternal was 2016 dialed to x100, TDA is 2016 dumbed down with addition of a cinematic story to appeal to Playstation players, they went full in to the casual playerbase.

>>723323576
This cannot be real

>>723324591
nu-id has been a circlejerk from the first one. there was some genius and talent at play but they were too busy smelling each other's farts to notice that they strayed further the source material with each game.
i don't think they ever got what they did right and wrong with the first two games.

>>723323576
Eternalchads status: VINDICATED

>>723322547 (OP)
Original is still the best one. I have played the OG one and GZ Doom with brutal Doom more times then I care to count. Even Doom 2016 I only played it once and after playing it I was like "well it was fun and ok."

>>723323793
>>723323854
>>723323925
>>723323995
What the fuck were they thinking?
No, actually, were they thinking?

Unc niggas don't play games. We need faster doom games again like eternal this dad slop shit not working bruh

if this wins anything at the game awards, its a pity award.
>>723323576
>single player only game
>bafflingly made for consoles, specifically the xbox
the game sucks but pull up console numbers

>>723323793
looks alright for a mobile game kek

>>723322876
>Who is it even for?
For me, I'm a 9-5 dad with two kids that just want to turn my brain off and play while the wife and little girls are sleeping

>>723324754
one of the things i didn't like with Eternal was the storybabble. 2016 had perfect storytelling

>>723322547 (OP)
The conversations about what should win GotY are hotly debated, but at least we can all agree that it's not this.

>>723325634
Yeah the story in Eternal is lame but the gameplay is so tight that I can forgive their marvelslop tier story beats.

>>723323793
It's such a shame that id's crazy ass art team is wasted on this shit
the environments and backdrops in eternal and what I've seen of dark ages are great

>>723325652
Clover Pit
nuf said

>>723325764
Why did they double down on marvel slop in this game. Eternal was already fucking cringe. "Rip... and.... Tear"

>>723326214
cuz Hugo Martin is a Marvelfag

>>723322547 (OP)
Fuck off. You faggots always do this shit. TDA is considerably better than 90% of shooters that exist even if you liked Eternal more. Go play some shit like Atomic Heart and then come back to TDA and then tell me if the latter is still mid.

>>723323559
>>723323909
This is the main reason I despise gamers. Only about 10% of gamers are the actual tastemakers qualified to assess a game's value. Everyone else are just the reactionary masses who thoughtlessly whine about anything that isn't immediately intuitive to them. They don't think about the game design at all; they complain as if by reflex. They can't even recognize when design decisions were made to accommodate their criticisms because their context doesn't last longer than the last game they played.

The biggest issue with TDA is that the studio/publisher didn't realize that Eternal was ONLY a hit due to perfect market timing. Its appeal is mostly for hardcore enthusiasts but it managed to capture a much broader audience because it was the latest big release right when lockdowns began. So they wound up responding to all the criticisms of an audience that was never going to show up for the next Doom game no matter what.

>>723325652
A lot of the contenders are movie games that play worse than TDA but are forgiven of that sin because they target an audience that doesn't care about gameplay.

>>723323793
>>723323854
Dragon sections are lame but the mech sections are awesome despite the simpler combat model.

>>723325235
>What the fuck were they thinking
Literally the most hyped fucking game on this board has gameplay that consists of nothing BUT dodge/parry timing. Devs are merely responding to gamer preferences.

>>723329012
Dark Souls is simplistic but the mech sections are cattle gun shot through your frontal lobe brain dead. Also it's marvel slop writing. They doubled down on the worst aspects of all FPS games

>>723325235
They wanted to add dragon and mech sequences (the latter were especially requested since DE featured those big Fatlan robots in the background), but couldn't figure out how to do them right.

Those sequence are bad, but they're also less than 5% of the game.

>>723329310
5% too many.

doom mods that change the theme?

>>723329229
It's not a perfect game, but it's not a complete trainwreck like some people pretend it is. It's decently fun once the battles get bigger and you have to navigate a big battlefield, prioritize enemies, dive in and out etc. It's alright. I just wish it wasn't so dull for most of the game. All those shitty brown Sentinel levels.

>>723329229
You are the definition of a midwit.

>Dark Souls is simplistic but the mech sections are cattle gun shot through your frontal lobe brain dead.
They're fucking spectacles that feel cool and break up the pacing. They're not intended to be challenging. The fact that you perceive them as a failed challenge betrays you're an insecure failson who derives his self-worth from vidya ability.

>Also it's marvel slop writing.
It's a game about a dude who kills alien demons through sheer rage. The developers inherently don't take the premise seriously which is why the writing is deliberately over-the-top cheesy. Again, by failing to realize this you've ironically demonstrated how sophomoric your tastes really are.

>>723325370
>bafflingly made for consoles, specifically the xbox
You just gave me an epiphany. Is all the Doom Eternal hate coming from console fags angry at using the weapon wheel? It never even occurred to me since I can switch to any weapon easily with a key bind.

>>723328681
The game is mid, in fact it's easily the worst Doom game. Yes, worse than Doom 3. Even the RPG games are better.

>>723330646
Go play literally any UE5 shooter and get back to me.

I'm starting to think that nuDoom was never good in the first place.

>>723322956
Shit carried by fanmade wads

>>723330886
Filtered

>>723330863
I found boarderlands 4 way more enjoyable, but TDA is not a high bar to clear.

>>723330863
That won't change the fact that Dark Ages is the worst Doom game ever made.

>>723330863
There are like 6 Doom / Quake clones made in various engines besides UE5 with more players than Doom: The Mid Ages rn and they're all better

>>723323701
Where does mute autism man keep all his guns

>>723330863
I just realized marvel rivals is on UE5 and that shits all over TDA, esports faggotry be damned.

for me nu-doom series goes like this
Eternal > TAG 1 > DOOM 2016 > TAG 2 > The Dark Ages

>>723322547 (OP)
I legit forgot this existed lmao

>>723322547 (OP)
>took 2 day vacation for this
>preordered deluxe edition
>woke up 4 A.M. in a morning to play it
I was so disappointed

>>723331171
People got mad at TAG1 so they doubled down on making complete sloppa forever

>>723323793
>>723323854
>>723323925
>>723323995
Please tell me that's on journoscum mode.

>>723323701
SIT AND SHIT

>>723322547 (OP)
How did they make every gun in this game feel like garbage? In Eternal it felt like you had variety in the weapons you used, and in Dark Ages it feels like you have the same gun with a modifier on it

>>723331434
The first 3 webms show basically mini-games. They're shallow by design. The last webm shows parrying a Cyberdemon and yeah, he's very easy to parry even with lowest parry window. The difficulty comes when he has allies nearby (which he often does) because parrying does NOT give you iframes for other attacks, so you can parry a Cyberdemon and die from some Imp scratching your back - and if you choose to ignore Cyberdemon, he'll pepper you with hitscan attacks.

it was so boring

>>723322681
fpbp

>>723328681
>faggot schizo tortanicfag still mad about eternal's success
as if the sequel to doom 2016 was going to flop, let alone flop as a result of shitposting on a taiwanese rhizome cultivation forum.

>>723322547 (OP)
This game is the sole reason why I don't buy games at full price anymore.

>>723331580
Consolefags got filtered by a weapon wheel, that's my headcannon. Eternal was great it outed /v/ as being 90% consolesfags. Now the weapons are irrelevant, you get to play Simon says every fight and arenas have zero vertically or variety.

>>723331491
FART AND SHART
>>723322547 (OP)
The most aggressively mediocre AAA slop ever to be released

>>723331434
You can only stand and fight when you're fighting only one enemy. This is a Doom game, you are almost never fighting one enemy, you're fighting 50 enemies.

>>723330005
This is what uncs playing babymode marvel games think... Wow

>>723323793
the actual game past the tutorial:
https://youtu.be/RK47RToJV7M?t=865

>>723332238
>"difficulty" sliders
>accelerating game engine speed
fake difficulty

>>723332238
>ripatorium
is there one thing, ONE thing, that isn't half assed shit in this game?

>>723332238
cheat engine can increase the speed of any game too but we don't count that now do we

>>723332431
The story no one asked for. Thanks, Hugo.

>Cosmic Realm is pretty kino aside from random squids because squids = Lovecraft I guess
>only 4 levels, including some of the shortest levels in the game
>Cosmic Realm features some non-Euclidian fuckery and rooms with shifting gravity
>only used for optional areas
why

>>723328681
They hated him because he spoke the truth.