Thread 723360819

Everyone was so sure that the Steam Deck and the many others PC handhelds would steal the spotlight from the Switch, yet that hasn't been the case at all.
Not even the new Xbox Rog Ally seems to stand a chance against the Switch 2, why is that?

Fun

>>723360819 (OP)
>on track

It out sold them on day 1.

0 competition if you actually care about video games.

Don't get me wrong - The PS5 is a beautiful paperweight. But, you know, playstation hasn't had exclusives worth a shit since the fucking PSP.

Why are they comparing it to a PC handheld instead of a NDS or GameBoy? Are things really that grim for Nintendo?

>every PC gaming handheld

what, all two of them? no shit its gonna outsell them, nintendo is a household name, you can buy a switch at walmart.

>>723361157
It is on track to outsell the ayaneo 3!

>>723360819 (OP)
>on track
The Steam Deck is the top seller with something like 4-5 million sold. That's what the Switch 2 sells in a few months.

>>723360819 (OP)

GAMES and rock solid reputation.

>>723360819 (OP)
Who fucking cares about this retarded metric?

>>723360819 (OP)
The promise of octopussy

>>723360819 (OP)
>on track
>pc gaming handheld
Sounds like they were quite desperate to say something that sounds positive.

>>723360962
I think it means combined.
Don't worry Steam Deck fans are assured that Steam Deck 2 will outsell Switch 2 by a vast amount, even though Xbox could barely get an upgrade on the Steam Deck somehow Steam Deck will be more like a XSX in handheld form.

same reason pokemon is still popular for kids who want a pikachu. Children are a big market. Just look at how much Nintendo love is on /v/, an underage board

>>723362659
The xbox rog ally is a rog ally with an Xbox button.

>>723362807
What would in your 15 year old zoom zoom eyes make switch 2 an adult console? It launched with cyberpunk. It has hitman, yakuza, resident evil 9, cronos and many other “adult” games. The actual demographic for switch was found to be more teenagers/20’s and 30’s than children. You sound like another faggot teenager overcompensating for being a drooling toddler with no life experience. It’s clearly a console that appeals to everyone, hence the record launch.

>>723362572
It's not surprising (If I remember right the total sales of all PC handhelds was like 5 million at that time) but a lot of journos did seem to genuinely fall for the hype so I can see it being news to them.

In reality the Switch 2 outsold the lot in its first month on the market. Common sense would say that's obvious, if it sold worse it would genuinely be one of the biggest flops of all time, only the most delusional of steamies over on r*ddit thought it wouldn't clear that bar.

>>723363793
>It launched with cyberpunk
Holy shit!

>>723364342
I’m about to launch a holy shit into your mouth

>>723360819 (OP)
From the look of sales, the first two weeks and nothing else. Already outsold by PS2 and GBA lmao

>>723360819 (OP)
PC handhelds are better than the switch but they were never going to sell more because their real competition is laptop and desktop PCs(which are superior in almost every way except portability).

PC handhelds function more as an addon for desktop and laptop users. A better comparison would be comparing Labo or any other nintendo addon.

>>723360819 (OP)
>new honda civic is on track to outsell every lotus ever made

>>723362943
More an issue that AMD can't produce vast leaps in power per gen so anyone expecting a Steam Deck 2 to be an Xbox Series X in handheld form is dreaming, and that's before you factor in that it's limited by LPDDR.

>>723368842
PC handhelds just don't have a real audience, I want basically a Steam Deck in tablet form, but nobody makes this, although that battery life maybe there is no point.

>>723368842

Cardboard had a much lower price than a handheld PC and is infinitesimally more niche. Bad comparison.

Consumer zombies, Nintendo strain in particular, are braindead retards that MUST have things advertised to them. They buy before thinking and never once in their life really stop to consider things like "Do I need this, is this worth the price." its all drowned out by "HOLY SHIT NEW THING FROM COMPANY I LIKE OH MY FUCKING GOD HOLY SHIT ITS A NEW THING"

>>723360819 (OP)
>the many other PC handhelds

>>723360819 (OP)
Did you know that "Sales figures" are never calculated on B2C but on B2B "projections"?
Even worst, sometimes they "merge" those figures but never trully Say how many units are actually soldi to the final consumer.
Meaby Nintendo sold 1 gazilion consoles to Best Buy, but that does not mean they actually "sold" those units yet.
It takes time to actually have a real picture on unita sold for a device. Everthing else is just marketing speculation to make investors happy.

>>723368842
That data is interesting since gaming monitors are somehow complete units, so the 73 million is inclusive of gaming notebooks, gaming pcs, gaming monitors (why), and pc handhelds (expected to be 2.5 million in 2025), those numbers aren't actually impressive, average time for upgrades is about 3-5 years, for both gaming notebooks and gaming pcs, so that's as low as more than 2x per console generation. Based on these numbers gaming pc sales annually are actually less than annual console sales, which is something I personally didn't expect.

>>723360819 (OP)
Right?
You mean zombie npc mainstream sheeple throwing their money en masse somehow means they're right?
Im so fucking sick and tired of these NPC threads on my /v/
Listen to me
FUCK.
OFF.

>>723370651
We know, it's always shipments, but consistent shipments means consistent b2c, businesses would stop buying stock if customers were also not buying stock
>Meaby Nintendo sold 1 gazilion consoles to Best Buy, but that does not mean they actually "sold" those units yet
Shipments would have cratered into nothing at this case and companies would look at returning stock like they did with the WiiU, but you can see demand keeping up, at least in Japan, US still sold a few hundredk last month, and with Pokemon this month it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo sold an additional 2+ million Switch 2's, assuming that they had the stock, but Nintendo regularly doing 40k units per week in Japan when they still have lotteries and people waiting in line on their own website to acquire Switch 2's, it seems likely that they have been holding back stock for Pokemon ZA's launch for longer than a month, and that's assuming that they weren't already skimming off stock before that point.
What's funny is that skimming off that stock is objectively not a good business decision.

>>723361318
the deck has only sold two million units…

Marketing is the biggest reason. The deck is for people who already have a steam account. You dont need anything to get a switch. Plus every normie knows nintendo but most dont know valve, at most they have heard of steam from esg niggers trying to force the monopoly meme.

>>723371693
Part of Switch 2's marketing was that you can play your Switch 1 games with enhancements, and you just plain have access to your Switch library, I kind of wish they followed through with that.
Steam has more users than Nintendo has Switch 1/2 owners so statistically normies would know way more about Steam than Nintendo, only 1 teen I know has a Switch everyone else has a gaming PC.

>>723360862
fpbp

>>723368842
This, for PC handhelds, they'd need to be way cheaper to actually draw people away from the laptop/desktops. They ARE technically cheaper than an average decent PC but not by enough to really justify the purchase unless you REALLY value portability for some reason.

Its a 'If I'm willing to spend this much, I might as well spend a bit more to get something more reliable/higher spec' type deal.

>>723360819 (OP)
>shit is about to outshit every other shit

>>723360819 (OP)
>The Switch 2 is on track to outsell every [extremely niche product]
No way

>>723362660
>this faggot again
You don't have a leg to stand on this time kek

>>723370972
I think the fairest way to count "gaming PC" sales would be to simply count every discrete graphics card

>>723370972
"Gaming PC Shipments" is meaningless and obviously a way to cut the data in the way they want. You can install a game on any computer and people do.

>>723360819 (OP)
Nintendo makes games that don't rely on computationally expensive visual fidelity to look nice and play well with controller-centric inputs. Thus, they've had success with handhelds from the first Gameboy.

>>723360819 (OP)
There's literally no competition, there's no other console with so many games like the Switch.

>>723360819 (OP)
Wait? It didn't outsell them already? That's actually worrying news for Nintendo. They're supposed to ship tens of millions of the things.
>>723366739
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>723360819 (OP)
Switch is selling not because its handheld but because its a Nintendo console.
Actual handhelds are a Niche market in the age of Phones and being able to stream games to your phone.
People are buying the switch to play Nitnedo IPs.

>>723360819 (OP)
Pretty sure there are more gaming laptops in the landfill that switch 1 and 2 combined
>No but I mean specific form factor
Yes I thought it, you were a retard

>>723373406
My limited edition pre order arrived today :)

No other company in gaming has brand cachet like Nintendo. They’re the Disney of gaming. People know that buying a Switch means more Nintendo games, and that’s exactly what they want. It’s really that simple.

>>723375954
>switch 1 game
poorfag

>>723376756
Feels good being one of the few people on earth owning this masterpiece software

^_^

>>723375476
This
>switch 2 is the fastest selling console divided by one month plus supply chain minus a cow multiplied by incorrect bookkeeping divided by sales to retailers

>>723370190
Why are you using two awful cars as comparison?

>>723375476
Uh oh! PC vegan melty!

>>723361157
Yeah, incredibly stupid fucking article.

>>723360819 (OP)
>Rog ally
>log into windows
>need internet connection to open any game launcher if you didnt set it offline before you lost internet
>every game needs internet connection to download
>play game
>auto detect gives terrible performance
>lower res to 720p
>still shit
>tweak ingame settings
>still shit at low
>tweak power draw
>better but still sub par
>check forums
>need to tweak my ram to use x amount for ram and X amount for vram
>tweak cpu and gpu
>now get stable ish performance
>need to do this with anything that isnt a 2d indie or made before 2020
Vs
>put game in switch 2
>press button on top
>press a
>play game the best it can on the hardware
Vs gamekeycard
>put game in switch 2
>press button on top
>press a
>download game
>dont need internet after the first download
>play game the best it can on the hardware

Its a terrible experience and the amount of tweaking scream for a mouse and keyboard and hooking that up opens another can of worms

T. Ally and switch 2 user

>>723360819 (OP)
>on track
hasn't it already?
or is it like, every single one of them put together

>>723360819 (OP)
marketing lie, shitch 2 got rejected from the Japanese videogame museum because you can't preserve any games. You don't own anything on the shitch 2, not even on the physical cartridge

>>723360862
it's just that simple

>>723360819 (OP)
nintendo fans stick with nintendo and want their exclusives. they don't care about having a handheld steam machine.
nintendo fans bought a switch 2 to upgrade their switch.

>>723377337
>Steam Deck
>Boot up
>Log into Steam
>Download game from your fuck hueg library
>Realise it isn't verified
>Pick Proton version manually
>Download controller config
>it works fine

>>723360819 (OP)
> on track

brah... the sales dropped off the cliff after half a year. Most people who wanted a Switch 2 already bought it.

>>723360819 (OP)
this is such a load of shit. Switch 2 has nothing worth playing.

>>723360862
nobody can defeat fun

>>723372727
Snoys are always so mad

>>723368842
one thing nobody mentions is the a lot of games on the Switch 2 are made for that system, including games that are ported to it, so you can get the best value out of it whether you play handheld or docked which is not the same for the Steam Deck or PC handhelds

>>723360819 (OP)
>switch 2 sells 1.4 million units in 3 days
>continues to sell only 1.1 million in the subsequent 3 months

>>723385825
There are only about 8 million actual Nintendo fans. Everyone else is a casual. Thats why the wiiu only sold like shit.

How are they going to convince the 140 million casuals that bought a switch to buy another switch? 90% of those normie retards will literally just say "I already have a Switch"

>>723360819 (OP)
Giod on them. I'm still not buying it.

>>723385825
>currently 8 million have sold in four months
???

Still raising my girlfriend's black son

>>723360862
>tendies are still pretending they're the premier fun game making company
That ship sailed with the release of BotW. You will keep playing open world asset flip sloppa like the rest of us

My local walmart has had the Switch 2 display chock full for a few weeks now. That's never a good sign for a relatively new console.

Because it's a Nintendo console while pc handhelds are a low power offshoots of pc?
You don't buy them to play games, you buy them to play games on the go
Nintendo doesn't offer alternate form factors nor are they competing with anyone since they're exclusive hoarding kikes so all their sales get summed up into one product

>>723360819 (OP)
It's the only one that can run Donkey Kong Bananza

>>723386481
nobody cares about third world countries

>>723360819 (OP)
Switch 2 plays Cyberpunk better than any PC handheld.

>>723386808
correct, no one cares about muttland

>>723360819 (OP)
>every pc gaming handheld ever made
Is that supposed to be a lot? Who the fuck actually bought those?

>>723360819 (OP)
Brand loyalty. Same thing that happened with the PS5. Everyone knows the PS5 is shit. Even the ones that won't admit it. But they have the PS logo engraved into their fucking brain, just like the tendies.

>>723386826
meanwhile its performance against literally the weakest one
also no one gets this game on pc just to play it on a handheld
you pay a premium for this shitty non upgradeable non moddable game that's stuck running like shit forever

>>723368842
This is the correct way to see it. PC handhelds are more of a compliment to PC's as a whole. Nobody uses this as their daily thing constantly. But most are shifting away from Phones to this due to Phones heating up constantly.

>>723368842
They're tracking those stats wrong because it doesn't account for PCs used for gaming that aren't covered with neon lighting, and home-built PCs. They should track GPUs shipped, not PCs.

>>723368842
laptops aren't superior at all
they're a shit form factor that sacrificed cooling and battery capacity for being slim
a condition that's worthless outside low end ones that are meant to serve as web browsers and data entry machines

>>723386886
If you head over to reddit they will endlessly tell you the Deck is the most amazing thing ever and there's no reason to buy any other console, PC or phone.

>>723387090
you can sync your save file across the switch and pc versions.

>>723387267
tendies sure are experts on reddditor opinions
why is that?

>>723387090
Granted, the Deck is using almost 3X the power here which caps the session at about 80 minutes vs 130 for the Switch 2, and the asset quality is actually better on the Switch. Neither of them can get the FPS into the VRR zone. The OLED Deck will look far better in HDR, though.

But yeah, Handhelds are the very worst way to play Cyberpunk. It shines on a high end PC, though, been playing since release.

>>723387427
I go there for release dates and such. The constant skilling of the Deck there is really off putting, it even leaks into threads that have nothing to do with the Switch. I get the feeling that $400 is the max anyone there can afford for a rig so the Deck becomes the kind of VW Golf/Glock 19 of PC platforms.

>>723362659
>Don't worry Steam Deck fans are assured that Steam Deck 2 will outsell Switch 2 by a vast amount
Is this bait or....?

>>723387696
no, tendie retards unironically believe that's a decent falseflag

>>723368842
You were right until your 2nd sentence. A better comparison would be the ps portal, though that's completely useless if you're outside the range of a ps5, while the pc handhelds can at least keep functioning.

>>723360819 (OP)
>system with a shitload of marketing and retail presence on track to sell more than systems with virtually no marketing or retail presence
>this means the Switch 2 isn't total dogshit or floundering miserably after its frontloaded launch and will totally come somewhere maybe sort of within 100 million of the original Switch
Whoa

>>723387696
Tendies are ever desperate to perpetuate their victim complex.

>>723387534
Why are you asspulling? The deck battery still does far better than the switch 2's god awful battery life and the asset quality is awful in handheld mode with settings far worse across the board.

The only people buying PC handhelds are tech Youtubers.

Switch 2 already outsold the Steam Deck + PC handhelds combined.

>>723360819 (OP)
- It's both Handheld and TV
- It's plug and play, you put in a game and it justwerx. (key cards excluded since you need to download the game first)

SteamDeck isn't justwerx, it's 500% better if you're happy to fuck around, but if you don't want to fuck around your selection of games is very limited, most games don't have a built-in steamdeck preset and many don't even work out of the box with proton, you need to do extra tweaking with graphics settings, proton versions, launch options, etc.

PlayStation doesn't have a PS5 handheld to compete but that's the only real competition for Switch.

>>723386826
Not even close. There's a reason all the cyberpunk shitposting with the switch 2 instantly dried up the moment the game actually came out.

>>723391051
>SteamDeck isn't justwerx
It is. You can also just plug it into or stream to whatever tv or monitor you want.
The deck has a marketing problem. The vast majority of games just work regardless of whether they say they're supported. You start the game and it just works 99% of the time. And when it doesn't, it's typically as simple as changing to protonge or using a different controller config, both of which take 2 seconds. Most games don't need steamdeck presets because game settings on pc typically default to the hardware anyway. Older games don't, but the deck can run those maxed anyway.

>>723368842
PC handhelds literally just need marketing and physical presence. Few are going to buy something they don't know exist or know virtually nothing about. Something for normalfags to actually see and latch onto because they're what constitute 98% of Nintendo's sales. Whether or not anyone actually wants normalfags on their platform is another matter entirely.

>>723385824
That makes no sense. You get infinitely better value out of a PC handheld. Seriously, it's not even close.
You might have a point in one specific instance if games were actually well optimized and played well on the Switch or Switch 2, but we all fucking know that's not true and if a game runs like ass you have no recourse, unlike a handheld PC where you can just play that game on any PC you have access to or stream it to the deck, or use tech like lossless to make the experience better at no additional cost.

>>723368842
Laptops are awful for gaming. Literally just the worst of both a desktop and a PC handheld. They should only be used for productivity.

>>723391758
There's literally not a single reason to get a pc handheld or even to justify its existence. It's not better than $200 chink emulators with android. Just get either that, a deck or a switch.

>>723390836
True, the only victim I see here is the Steam Deck getting absolutely murdered lmao

>>723360819 (OP)
>when your only crowning achievement are ahitty """"""handheld""""" games
Lmao you stupid niggers got tricked into buying phone games and now you can't even physically own your full game anymore, you niggers should be outraged but instead you roll over like the dogs you are and ask for another treat. Well sit pretty my nigglets and they'll deliver more slop.

>>723361394
/thread
/board
/website
/internet

>>723392141
you should be outraged about owning your hardware
deck is a fully fledged pc that allows you to run pretty much everything, mods and all, you can copy and crack your games and no one can decide it's not able to use the internet ever again
you people choose the shittiest experience possible only so that you can possibly sell your plastic trash down the line

>>723391987
the deck is a pc handheld?
what the fuck are you talking about

>Switch and Switch 2 sell hundreds of millions
>their game lineups are still only second best to what you can get on a PC

>>723368842
What tendies don't get is sales don't matter for PC handhelds. They treat it like their consoles, like they need sales to get support. That, and they're desperate to consolewar, knowing they bought into a worse system.
But what have Nintendo's sales done for them? Absolutely nothing but make Nintendo treat them like trash. Meanwhile, the Deck gets not only FAR more games constantly, but it gets far more support by both Valve and the community than Nintendo's systems do as well. When Nintendo updates, it's typically just to screw over piracy and worthless for everyone. When the Deck gets an update, it adds cool shit or actually fixes things. Valve updates, you can now share your entire libraries between 5 friends at any time. The community updates and you can now use lossless to make every game run better. Nintendo updates and you it's just an inconvenient download that has nothing to do with 99.9% of users. Not to mention just how much more consumer friendly the Deck is over consoles and how much freedom it grants the user to do whatever they want to the point they could improve the Deck themselves for everyone if they wanted to.

>>723391987
The deck is a pc handheld. I don't know why people act like it's a console. It's just as convenient as a console. A best of both worlds type of deal.

>>723392148
>>723361394
The Nintendo Switch 2 has no games.

>>723360862
It's that simple.

>>723375954
What's good about it?

>>723392867
The first 5 months will have more exclusives than the Xbox or PS5.

>>723360862
Objectively far more fun to be had on a handheld PC. PC has vastly more games and gets games far faster.

>>723360819 (OP)
Already? Its only been like 4 months though lmao. How is this humanly fucking possible?

>>723392968
And yet it still has no games.

>>723393038
The ideal thing is to have a good desktop and Switch. Unless you're a retard.

>>723360819 (OP)
>the new console from one of the most popular gaming companies is ON TRACK to outsell a relatively niche handheld meant to appeal to people who don’t care about handhelds
The fuck is the point of this article

>>723392867
>>723392968
actually it already does

>>723393094
Anyone buying into Nintendo at this point is a retard. Make no mistake about that. That's what Nintendo treats you as. Even ignoring how they treat you, they're still a soulless, shitty husk of their former selves that don't even know how to make good games anymore. They are not the company anyone cares about anymore and people are still in denial over that fact.

>>723393184
MUST... BE... POSITIVE...
There's nothing good to say...! Something... we need... something...!

>>723393198
Nah, their devs still make must play games and going forward they have better Japanese devs making 3rd party exclusives. If you can't admit that you're disingenuous and jaded. I play games and Nintendo happens to make them. Something the other contemporaries are unable to do.

>>723368842
The steam decks main audience is people who want to play porn games on the bus

>>723393197
No games. PC literally gets more exclusives than that in a single day
>b-b-buh shovelware
So is most of that shit on the switch 2, or fuck man, shit like charging you for the manual with welcome tour is somehow even more nefarious than that

>>723392697
>But what have Nintendo's sales done for them? Absolutely nothing but make Nintendo treat them like trash
Pokemon is definitely the peak example of this. The games have practically no budget, sell millions, and yet the price constantly goes up and the quality goes down. Where's the money going?

>>723393094
why would you buy into a console that's so innately worthless that emulation completely btfoes it down the line? resist the fomo

>>723393351
lol
Go roll around in your new poketurd, shiteater

>>723393351
>if your game isn't a Nintendo exclusive, then it's bad and not worth playing
And you call others disingenuous and jaded?

>>723393401
>waaaaaaaaaaaah those games don't count because I say so
I accept your concession

>>723393197
The ps5 is the best console in the world, and this is not up for debate.

>>723393460
Go roll around in your new calartsturd, shiteater

>>723360819 (OP)
The switch 2 would have to be a Wii U tier bomb to not outsell the deck. I don’t think even valvefags were betting on it beating Nintendo. This is the most nothing burger article imaginable

PC gamers need to be gassed. Ever since young Millennials and zoomers started building their RGBLGBTQ+ rigs we have gotten unfinished games, early access slop and they've destroyed physical games

>>723393517
less games than the Switch 2
less sales in japan than the Switch 2
in 5 months

>>723393467
That’s what you say about games available on PlayStation though

>>723393537
The wii-u still sold at least 10 million units. The switch 2 is currently on track to sell as much as the original wii so far.

>>723393407
>Where's the money going?
For a lawform as big as Nintendo, their army of layers takes a lot of money.

>>723393568
concession status: accepted

>>723393565
Nobody cares. The ps5 is better than your shitty tablet. Switch 2 can’t play gta 6 on release

>>723393407
It's not just pokemon and you'll inevitably get some tendie trying to pin all the blame on gamefreak. It's mario kart, mario party, totk, new horizons, splatoon 3, etc. All of them are examples of degredation and treating the consumer like shit despite having more money than ever to put out something good.

>>723393645
cope

>>723393631
You whine about games that people buy on PlayStation not counting all the time. So you’re a hypocrite.


Thanks

>>723393563
fags and low iq brownoids prefer consoles
what the fuck do you think convenience actually means if not being lowest common denominator friendly
physical games hold no value when your system can easily copy and crack games and optical media is utter fucking shit

>>723393697
Cope about switch 2 having no games

A mainstream normie console outselling an expensive niche product? Say it ain't so.

>>723393519
>calartsturd
But I'm not playing calarts kong.

>>723393708
I never said that, snoygger
I said 22 is larger than 18 and that's a simple fact you cannot refute
>>723393772
see >>723393197

>>723393728
Consoles are the ultimate way to game

Casual twats not realizing the value, potential, and superiority of playing on PC will always outnumber the people mindful of the gaming hardware they buy.

>>723393806
you're playing ghost of wokedei though

>>723393807
Ps5 owners don’t care. It has an entire world of third party big games. That’s why people buy them and they’re cheaper than PCs

>>723393862
I am? News to me. I was just playing black mesa.

>>723393823
>ultimate
no mods
no settings options
non upgradeable hardware
aim assist to compensate for shit controls

>>723393975
Hackers and RCE exploits alone aren’t worth touching a single multiplayer game on pc.

Don’t need to upgrade when you only spend 500-700 on a new system every 7 years vs buying Jen’s tax of 3k cards just to play the same games

>>723393975
Carpal tunnel sucks major dick

>>723393038
But people already have PCs to play those games. A steamdeck exclusively serves the purpose of having those same games you already play but on the go.

The switch 2 has its own games created internally and optimized for that system. You see why a PC gamer would see appeal in a switch over a steam deck?

>but emulation!

Most people dont want to bother, and switch 2 is not yet emulatable. Plus, some people like to have the option to play in their living room, comfortably from their sofa, and PCs just arent good for that. Right now im emulating bloodborne and having such a good time with it, but my big TV is nowhere near my desktop and there's no comfortable way of hooking it up from a different room. I really wish i could play from my sofa without having to drill a hole for an 8 meter hdmi.

Im sure there are some options like streaming and stuff. But nothing compares to having something compact and discrete near your tv that just works.

>>723360862
>Muh grafix
>Muh textures
I guess none of that matter at all and never will.

>>723394195
What does a grown man even do on a switch? Let’s be real here. What would any real person find to do on something like that? Stop larping. None of you own one and never will.

>>723394072
everyone on console hacks by default due to the insane aim assist
i'd rather have to kick a hacker once in a while than have the whole point of the game devalued

>Don’t need to upgrade when you only spend 500-700 on a new system every 7 years
i can build a ps5 pro tier pc for the same price
if you're buying a 5090 you're getting performance that a console won't beat until 2031

>>723366739
comparing jp only numbers for the switch 2 with worldwide for the other 2... sad!

>>723394331
Come back when you get your pc taken control of by a third worlder and your account stolen because the geniuses at steam can’t get those hacking punks off their servers

>>723394331
Pcs don’t scale with the power that they’re supposedly selling you. NVIDIA sells a bunch of lies. They sell dumbasses on numbers. When in reality consoles run games just as good if not better with less stutters

>>723394425
won't happen because i don't play degenerate outdated compslop?
you should be worried about a corporation being able to control your console to the point where they can shut you off from the internet entirely instead of schizoing up niche scenarios

>>723394292
I dont have one yet but bananza looks very fun and id really like to play it some day. MK world i dont care about.

Also i guess ill be playing metroid prime 4 on switch, but the switch 2 version will have mouse aiming and id probably emjoy that too. Plus i dont know, probably Zelda down the line at some point too, or whatever nintendo comes up with. Im also interested in air riders since I love sakurai's games and i liked his preview. Looks very hectic in a way MK world doesnt.

I guess theres enough manchildren like me that likes these things on top of edgier stuff.

>>723394580
That’s crazy. I honestly cannot believe that somebody fully grown would touch one of these things and not see it in such a stupid way.

>>723394515
yes they do
consoles are cutting performance beyond the pc floor
console optimisation doesn't exist, those incompetent devs relying on raytracing and upscaling aren't getting special code magic just because they're operating with consoles

>>723394516
A lot of people do. It’s just reality. Pc just isn’t feasible for ease of use gaming and the price to performance that it offers.

>>723394706
no one is playing old shit with unpatched RCEs you moron
they have private servers and patches

>>723394649
A 5090 cannot run a game 5x better than a ps5 pro.

>>723393839
PC is the casual market, most people who game on PC game on a gaming laptop, and even when it comes to a dedicated gaming PC most of those are pre assembled, there's a clear dedicated group of people who care about the hardware in their PC, but general PC users are as casual as your typical console user, I've heard PC gamers who thought they were hardcore compare GPUs by just the ram, like that was the most important component.

>>723394764
it's 3x as performant
no one is going to argue that it has some excellent price to performance but the fact is that you're not getting that performance on a console for 5 fucking years
that's what they're paying for
besides gaming is a cheap hobby in the grand scheme of things

>>723394636
videogames are not even games, anon. For the most part, theyre toys.
I'm enjoying bloodborne very much but it's just like making action figures fight. The "game" aspect is severely overrated in most cases. It's not chess. You press some buttons and fun things happen. Nintendo is good at that in a way that most other big devs arent.

>>723394938
What if you want to not wait 2 years to play gta 6 though? How do you plan on getting around that

>>723395050
by knowing it's a jewish double dipping attempt and thus not getting trapped in the deliberate fomo?
notice how you're not arguing for any specific perks of the console itself, this is purely a corporate kike scheme you're defending now, there's nothing about gta6 that necessitates delaying it on pc

>>723394986
There’s nothing really competitive or anything on the switch though. Trophies, big competitive fps games, most souls games, etc. I just don’t see any utility in just having fun. I want to see where I rank or go for something not a lot of people have done and show for it.

>>723395050
Not him but the PC platform has some many games you can easily disregard the ENTIRE GTA FRANCHISE for decades. Hell I still haven't played any of them and why would I when I have plenty of other games I prefer?

>>723394195
>but on the go
Yes. And a slew of other things, like console tier convenience. And when PC already has basically every game ever made and is guaranteed to get all future games, it doesn't need anything else. Consoles are worthless, especially now that they also treat you like garbage and outright say you don't even own them.

>>723360819 (OP)
$450 feels downright generous now don't it?

>>723394938
>10x the raw power of a ps5 with 80x the ray tracing power
>3x boost in performance at best
Pathetic.
Consoles can be optimized for because it allows a dev to build around bottlenecks and capitalize on strengths, a PC doesn't miraculously address every one of these aspects and it never does it proportionally to it's power, so yes consoles do get more optimization.

>>723360819 (OP)
Nintendofags are peak consoomers, they'll buy anything Nintendo shits onto their plate.

>>723395254
PC games typically support changing graphics settings. So you can optimize those to your hearts content.
That's the optimization they do for console games these days btw. They just change graphics settings and stuff like crowd density in games where random NPCs are a thing. Sometimes it's impossible to get PC graphics to go as low as consoles, but you can get pretty close.

>>723360819 (OP)
>gimmicky shit without a cultish premade fanbase doesn't sell like gimmicky shit with one
No really. Normal people just play on their actual PC.

>>723360819 (OP)
RawGarbage is just the 'eck without the magic.

>>723395254
>10x the raw power of a ps5 with 80x the ray tracing power
what the fuck are you talking about?
it has 5x as many cores as the 5060ti which still outperforms the ps5 pro gpu by 10% so it's subject to thermal limits forcing the clocks down as well as higher core counts not scaling as well
you don't know the first thing about silicon

>>723395226

You can become a smelly smash autist if thats your drive. But sure, nintendo games arent about competitivity.

Just know its equally pointless becoming at this or that multiplayer videogame compared to just enjoying a game for the sake of it. You arent building or growing in any meaningful, objective way.

>>723395247

That's all good and valid. But if you sont see how some people wouldnt see that much value in buying a device in order to play games they can already play, i dont know what else to tell you. These people might see value in having a different device if it widens the range of games they can play plus offers console convenience, portability, etc. It really is about the games in the end, and many people already has a pc for work or whatever.

>>723360994
The Vita had some good shit

>>723360819 (OP)
Call me when Switch 2 outsells every PC ever made.
>b-but...
Yeah, that's what i thought.

>>723397057
What

>>723360819 (OP)
Valve should start selling the Steam Deck in stores. They could easily beat the Switch 2 if they just marketed the damn thing more. Instead they keep slashing the prices without even telling people

>>723397230
the deck isn't a wide audience product and now it's too old and weak to put out there
they needed it to be a niche so that they don't turn themselves into a laughing stock if it turned out to be a nonfunctional brick

Forever waiting on a Deck 2. Don't care if Switch 2 outsells is 10,000:1. I can't play my existing PC games on Switch.

>>723391020
And there are billions of flies who like to eat shit. Your point?

>>723398008
This. I've had my OLED Deck for about a year, and in that time, I've enjoyed it way more than I ever did my Switch (even with hacks). I don't need an upgrade, but I'm interested in what an upgrade might look like.

>>723391051
>SteamDeck isn't justwerx, it's 500% better if you're happy to fuck around, but if you don't want to fuck around your selection of games is very limited, most games don't have a built-in steamdeck preset and many don't even work out of the box with proton, you need to do extra tweaking with graphics settings, proton versions, launch options, etc.
Lies lies and more lies. Let me guess, you're jewish.

>>723391020
how many sales would switch 2 have if you could officially play all its games on vastly more powerful hardware?

>>723386537
His hat should be floppier

>>723392606
The sole non-Switch games that stroke my interest and released since this decade were
>Lies of P
>Earth Defense Force 6
>Armored Core 6
>Nier Replicant
>Silent Hill f (haven't played that one yet)
>Expedition 33 (neither this one)
I wouldn't mind double-dipping on the Switch 2 version of the first four titles listed there, whereas I've played every other game on the Switch 1 & 2.

>>723398918
What I'm saying is that those games are better than any exclusive on the Switch or Switch 2. Armored Core 6 absolutely and completely decimated every single Nintendo game that came out the same year.

>>723399023
I think you're trying too hard to find conflicts with Nintendo and its hardware, while what I'm saying is that fellating over hardware power or over the sheer number of games (when your personal spare time is your biggest bottleneck) is rather useless when differences between platforms are frankly negligible outside of personal convenience. I just buy games exclusively on the Switch ecosystem in the last few years, between exclusives, ports and multiplats, EDF6 was the last PC port that I bought last year because I'm a very big fan of the franchise itself.

>>723360994
>The PS5 is a beautiful paperweight.
is ugly as shit.

>>723399381
You think only in sheer power, instead of utility. The PC isn't better because of muh gigaflops or muh ram or muh RTX 60485409. You have legitimate, unfettered freedom when you play a PC game. Tell me how many romhacks and mods you can enjoy on a Switch, without Nintendo's permission.

>>723399479
The stock day 1 console does. But the never variants look good or at least better. Helps that the size is smaller overall.

>>723360994
Hey fuck you PS4 and Vita had bangers.

>>723399753
>ugly asymmetrical Kaiba shit.
no.

>>723360819 (OP)
>handheld
What's the competition again? The 'eck which only autists have?

>>723399703
>You have legitimate, unfettered freedom when you play a PC game.
I only care about playing videogames firstmost, none of this superficial crap. Recurrent random crashes are a biggest problem for me than the things you've said.
I'm also someone in his mid-thirties so my patience to fuck around with files or even the prospect of troubleshooting has grown very thin unlike my younger days.
If you really want to take retro emulation into the equation, I have already a phone with PS1 and PSP games.

>>723360994
What about ghost of yotei

>>723387675
>I go there
How about you stay there tendittor?

>>723400160
Of course, I keep forgetting how tech illiterate the modern generation.

>>723400289
Looks like reading comprehension is overrated for you

>>723360819 (OP)
>had fun games
>every other console only had shit games
that's literally all it fucking takes, and only DEI hires can be so stunbravely incomptent they even fail at that

>>723400564
>I am incapable of doing even the most basic troubleshooting if anything goes wrong with my computer
>I need a corporation to babysit me and hold my hand

What you said seems pretty clear.

>>723400160
>I only care about playing videogames firstmost, none of this superficial crap
>superficial crap
Oh, come on. That "superficial crap" is directly enabling (and enhancing) the act of playing video games. I have no issue with people buying into Switch 2 for the retard-proof design, but let's call it what it is: convenience, laziness, incompetence, etc.

For context, I'm a nearly 30 year old boomer with 3 young kids, a house, and a full-time (non-remote/telework) job. If I can make the Deck work with my middling computer competency and still have plenty of time to game on top of my other responsibilities, you can too. You're overestimating the amount of troubleshooting required.

>>723360819 (OP)
Why do people keep comparing pc handhelds to switch consoles?

Bros what does pussy taste like?

>>723361318
>>723360994

There arent physical stores selling Deck or ROG xbox
There are physical store selling Switch 2.
People prefer always want consoles of physical stores

>>723361572
Male cosplayer.
Funny how every cosplay of Splatoon is always men because no women are enough flat

>>723388234
I guess he left Nintendo because it stopped being fun?

>>723370651
Business stats have been bogus for ages now. They are designed to present machine readable stats to the microtrading machines that took over in the early 2000s. Funnily enough finance people designed their system to eliminate AI redundancies ages ago and reinforce their status and fancy dinners.

>>723360819 (OP)
What do you mean? Slop for the masses always sells. That said, I am surprised there are that many manchildren around.

>>723371693
>You dont need anything to get a switch
Yeah, aside from licenses to play 20 year old remastered games costing $80 each.

As a long time Nintendo fan, I honestly have no idea. The Switch is really no better as a system than the Wii U was. Maybe worse in some regards.
Is it literally just the power of a good ad campaign, and being there to pick up the pieces when your opponents completely shit the bed, and forget to make video games for people who want to play video games (and more importantly, children)?

>>723404393
You're conflating like four different things.

>>723404814
You need more things than just a switch is my point, maybe even registering a Nintendo account.

>>723397230
Valve isn't interested in being a full blown hardware manufacturer. People severely underestimate their trojan horse strategy. They win no matter who makes the hardware and they prefer people slowly adopt it when they're ready rather than force it. PC was fucking dead 10-15 years ago and now it easily crushes all consoles combined and keeps growing while consoles have all lost a ton of ground compared to 15 years ago.

>>723405715
Not really. Unless you specifically want to play games online, and pay for satisfactory quality emulation, you don't need an account at all.
If you want to play Mario, you buy Mario at the store, put it in the system, and play it.

>>723405813
We're not ready to have that conversation yet, considering console warriors will literally report "illegal" romhacks and mods to sony and nintendo, because people are NOT allowed to have fun without their permission. And don't get me started on fangames.

>Nintendo fans frothing at the mouth because Am2R turned out to be just as good as, if not better than, Samus Returns
>Mega Man X8 demake was more faithful to the series than the original
>Lunar Magic and SMBX predating MArio Maker by almost 10 years

The same corporate slaves will defend copyright law as the word of god.

>>723405943
>you buy Mario at the store
and how much does that Mario cost? Does it even get discounts?

>>723362659
why should I care if the steam deck outsold anything?
I am enjoying mine, it helps me stay sane when traveling

>>723404737
>As a long time Nintendo fan, I honestly have no idea. The Switch is really no better as a system than the Wii U was. Maybe worse in some regards.

This is bullshit. The wiiU was a deeply mismanaged system but the concept itself didn't help it. The dual screen gimmick was rushed to hell and they didn't develop anything interesting with it. It was so weird. The n64 was created around M64 in order to show you how cool 3D games were. The gamecube launched with quite a few eye catchers to show you just how powerful it was in comparison, and the wii launched with wii Sports, which definitely showed the potential of the concept, aswell as being quite fun and novel for the time.

But what the hell did the wiiU have in the end to show for its gimmick? Nintendoland? ZombieU? None of these games were good enough to justify having a console that was a lot weaker than the competition's in exchange of having the 2 screen gimmick, and while it was convenient for some games, it definitely wasn't atractive enough to make someone buy the thing over other options. And it did have some great exclusives at a time where the competition had jackshit, but they didn't really need the gimmick in any capacity.

The switch as a concept is 10/10 and the average consumer understood it immediately. It launched with a meaty, ambitious exclusive game that if anything made the portable gimmick even more impressive for the time, and the rest is history.

>>723406048
Not eighty dollars for a remaster.
You could also just not play Mario. Switch games are actually pretty cheap, as long as they aren't the ones specifically developed by Nintendo. And even then, sometimes things kind of flop and go on sale silently. I got the Mario RPG remake and the last Warioware for almost nothing.

>>723360819 (OP)
Steam deck/etc can't actually run most modern PC games without terrible performance or a bunch of tinkering.
The market for handhelds is kids and casuals who can't be bothered with anything technical.

>>723395736
>That's all good and valid. But if you sont see how some people wouldnt see that much value in buying a device in order to play games they can already play, i dont know what else to tell you
Okay, emulation.
What people with consoles don't understand is that people are wising up to exclusivity being cancer to to force you to splurge on terrible redundant hardware at a premium price to lock you into an abusive ecosystem for an experience that doesn't even offer convenience anymore and openly tells you that you don't even own the hardware. A portable pc with instant pick up and play convenience for nearly every video game ever made and none of the console cancer downsides has value.

>>723406145
The Wii U had a small but very solid library of games, and half of the reason the Switch did so well initially is by porting those exact games, which were suddenly "good", because people actually played them the second time around.

>>723406313
>Steam deck/etc can't actually run most modern PC games without terrible performance or a bunch of tinkering.
Neither do modern gaming PCs.

>>723394224
whaow sherlock, what was your first clue?

>pc gaming handheld
wat

>>723392697
>What tendies don't get is sales don't matter for PC handhelds. They treat it like their consoles, like they need sales to get support
>But what have Nintendo's sales done for them? Absolutely nothing but make Nintendo treat them like trash.
>Meanwhile, the Deck gets not only FAR more games constantly, but it gets far more support by both Valve and the community
This cannot be understated. People are genuinely stupid enough to be acting smug over something that's screwing them because they've attached their identity to a corporation and brand.

>>723360819 (OP)
the idea was good
switch was cool from 2017 to like 2018/2019
iwata dying ruined nintendo

>>723406408
Desktops have the horsepower to run the games well enough. Yes they are more technical, though less technical than getting games to run on hardware/OS they were not designed for.

And yes, kids and casuals largely stay with consoles/handhelds over PC.

>>723406408
Cope

>>723406027
>>Nintendo fans frothing at the mouth because Am2R turned out to be just as good as, if not better than, Samus Returns
Nintendo fans are the only ones who played that game, faggot.

>>723407713
Then why were they constantly reporting it to Nintendo as copyright infringement? And heaven help you if you claim that it's better than the "official" game.

>>723407713
And Nintendo fans are the only ones who reported it.

>>723407793
>they
mentally ill twitterfags are not nintendo fans.

Why would it not sell more?
You can buy a Switch 2 practically fucking everywhere
It's constantly getting advertised everywhere, even on TV for boomers who still watch that shit
It's designed for small children and grandmas to handle
Some people aren't even aware PC handhelds exist at all. Not even the ROG Ally which is actually being sold in physical stores as well. They just don't register.
Who gives a fuck? Is this all you have? It sells, like Apple products?

"Master Race" huh?

>>723388234
That guy himself disavowed Nintendo lol

>>723362659
I don't think we have combined sales and it wouldn't be much different, Deck is the biggest PC handheld even non PC handheld as long as you don't count any 'gaming phones'

>>723360819 (OP)
>False news from a source that nobody knows about a console that everyone hates.

Dumbest "achievement" possible. PC handhelds have never been popular because they are $1000 or not sold at Walmart.

>>723409254

>everyone hates

But enough about Steam.

>>723408852
PC in general is crushing consoles.
Also, Nintendo just uses their sales to screw you. Trying to argue superiority over sales is about the dumbest thing a bootlicker can do. The Deck still gets far more games and support.

>>723409347
You're utterly blind to how arrogant and obnoxious your own side is boco. You hate steam for something you lot are guilty of.

>>723409446
>The Deck still gets far more games
Games you emulate don't count, Gabe bootlicker.

>>723409691
they don't count because you're too stupid for them and they absolutely destroy the value of your cucked toys?

>everyone going 3rd party
>nintendo being nintendo

everyone else is fumbling while nintendo is on cruise control.

>>723409760

"Getting a game" means an official port.

>>723360819 (OP)
Nintendo expected 15 million units to be sold by the end of this year, and people considered that super conservative.
They have not even reached 10 million.

>>723409691
Even if you remove emulation entirely, the Deck still gets vastly more games. Also, put your trip back, you're not fooling anyone.

>>723409937

>the Deck still gets vastly more games.

Like...?

>>723409813
those emulated games have more features and functionality than native so why does that matter?

>>723409880
Because it fully flopped in Europe.

>>723360819 (OP)
You can’t by Steam Decks at Walmart, dipshit.

>>723375476
>I thought it
ESL opinion discarded

I know you fucks are scared fo death the ps6 handheld will be a success

>>723409984
Like every game that's already on or comes to pc, which is virtually every game ever made.
>but what about the 0.00001%?
Will eventually be on pc.

>>723410138
Except Nintendo games.

>>723410073
And august wasn't even that far off launch. Sales have cratered even harder since then.

>>723410127
Who, Valvefags? Nintendo has nothing to fear.

>>723410197
Nintendo's entire catalogue of games aside from like 2 (which will inevitably also be on PC) is all on PC. The Deck is a better system for Nintendo games than Nintendo's own systems.

Ahem...

>>723384890

>>723360819 (OP)
Games. Switch simply has games. PC handhelds you're forced to play UE slop that doesn't run good on any hardware. Switch such games aren't even ported. What you have instead is a library with cohesion and quality control. Sure there's some slop, but far less than on Steam.

>>723410197
nintendo games are notorious for looking and playing better emulated as well as being moddable

>>723406503
I need more

>>723410825

Oh /v/....one day you'll learn that outside this board no one gives a fuck about performance or frame rate or any of the crap you use to justify your thousand dollar port machine...

>>723360819 (OP)
Steam isn't as popular as people think it is, at least in terms of brand awareness. My grandma calls every console a Nintendo. The Steam Deck is pulling from a smaller market of people that prefer to play games on their PC, probably for better framerate. I love it as a device but it wouldn't be appealing to the average person that bought a Switch or a Switch 2. The Xbox Rog Ally will also outsell it despite the insane price point, but won't touch the Switch 2.

>>723410991
>Calls people poorfags for not wanting to pay for NSO
>simultaneously shits on PC users for spending too much money on their PCs

Tripcode users were a mistake.

>>723410073
If they want to sell their console in Europe they need to add more divegrass games.

>>723411061

Spending too much money for what? 16 bit indies and farm sims? Yeah, great use of all that processing power.

>>723410991
tendies don't care about quality or performance, true
we already knew that they're tech illterates of the highest order with baby standards

>>723411158
And because of them your precious Deck is a flop. How's Gabe's dick taste?

>>723410713
Cope doesn't get any bigger than this. PC utterly fucking annihilates any Nintendo system in games, and a whole slew of other things, especially the Switch 2, which has no games.

>>723408151
>Why would it not sell more?
the console is supply constrained. They still are doing lotteries.

>>723411207
it's a low volume product that was meant to be a testing ground for linux and proton
if it was a flop it wouldn't have spawned a market

>>723410991
Oh Boco... You're still so dumb...

>>723411278

Careful Anon, you're starting to sound like Eric.

>>723411278
The App Store has more games than steam

>>723411278
Switch 2 has entire Switch 1 library and the exclusives. PC only has slop. If you like slop, well I guess you can stay in PC farm, while the gamers game on Switch 2

>>723411469
You just said Switch 1 library is slop, so why would you care about having that?

>>723411025
>Steam isn't as popular as people think it is, at least in terms of brand awareness
Steam is way more popular than people think it is, but you're right that it's not attached to any brand some grandma is going to hear about. Steam hasn't had a single ad, Valve doesn't even know what marketing is, so tons of people have no clue it exists, while consoles are shoved down their throat with ads and retailers. But steam itself still crushes consoles in spite of that.

>>723411538
Because Switch games are still better than any PC exclusive in the last decade. Which, incidentally, is as long as its been since PC got a decent exclusive.

>>723411446
The store that's on pc?

>>723411603
>Swith is better, I win, you lose.
Ok Nintentard.

>>723411335

Its true, ya know. You think all the kids out there and parents buying for their kids know what emulation even is, let alone how to do it? Its incredibly niche.

>>723411469
there are what? 20 games which can't be played on pc?
meanwhile there are tens of thousands of games that a pc can play that a switch 2 can't
as time goes on and an emulator gets developed you'll lose those 20

>>723411538
>You just said Switch 1 library is slop
I never said that. I said that there's "some" slop on Switch library, mostly western AI games and otherwise western games. Now imagine a platform with only that, and you get the Steam library.

>>723411603
You mean those games already on pc. And when you actually have choice, you realize they're kind of shit and that nintendo hasn't been truly good in 20 years.

>>723411646
The App store is on windows?

>>723411781
>Switch 2 emulator
Keep dreaming. Nintendo killed piracy.

>>723411120
I thought graphics didn't matter?

>>723411603
PC exclusives are released literally every single day, you just don't know about them because they don't run on your toy. Besides, even if it was true that the last time a good PC exclusive was released was a decade ago it's still better than anything released on Switch 2 today and you can also still play it today.

>>723411809
The entire Switch 1 library can be played on PC, and given that you said anything that can be played on the PC is slop that includes the Switch 1 library.

>>723411705
It's also true that nintendo constantly shits themselves over it and tendies screech @fbi to come shut it down, so plenty of people must be doing it.

>>723411781
Quality of games matter, not the quantity. PS3 had GT5, MGS4 and MGW PW (originally PSP title but was added to MGS collection that only saw PS3 release), PS5 has GT7. On PC you only have multiplat games, there doesn't exist any real exclusives for PC. You buy PC if you enjoy playing slop

>>723411846
>>723411846
Considering how popular Pokemon is, they clearly don't.

>>723411841
*encouraged piracy by generating bad press with their kikery

>>723360819 (OP)
Doesn't mean it is a good system.

>>723411705
Am I supposed to care some soccer mom doesn't know how to emulate? How does that affect me being able to emulate 99.999% of nintendo's catalogue of games?

>>723411935

People stupid enough to openly brag about it, yes. If you piss on a cop car and brag about it to the cop don't be surprised when they beat your ass.

>>723412001
>had
exactly
we're talking here and now
and the here and now is that pc has more games than any other platform and turns exclusives into former exclusives via emulation while consoles are becoming shittier

>>723411781
Not even 20. It's more like worst mario kart and calarts kong spamanza and that's it.

>>723412062
It doesn't, but when Nintendo outsells PC and the Steam Deck you need to acknowledge thats why.

>>723411841
I hope you're baiting and not actually this stupid.

>>723412062

You expect everyone to care about the opinion of a romkiddie, so yeah

>>723412085
They shit themselves regardless. Just stop crying about if it doesn't matter to you, bro.

>>723412007
Considering there are a thousand better games, graphics don't matter. Pokemon is just shit for many other reasons.

>>723412403

It doesn't affect me, no, but its hilarious that people think they can openly flaunt the law and not get smacked down for it.

>>723406708
>modern x86 chip
>rdna2 gpu
They were designed for that hardware specifically
>OS
Proton is at the point where that doesn't matter

>>723412162
>outsells pc
lol
any pc and laptop with a gpu released within the last 5 years is more of a gaming device and there are a hundred million of those sold each year

>>723412001
Love it that snoyggers are gradually realizing consoles are fucking dying and trying to band together with tendies to attack the big evil pc menace in their final hour. A shame tendies are still too stupid to realize that just because nintendo is fleecing them harder than ever.

>>723412571
There are no games for PC, only UE slop

>>723412479
Emulation isn't illegal, no matter how desperately nintendo and their bootlickers wish it was.

>>723412571
>consoles dying
>Switch 2 selling faster than any console in history
Uh huh.

>>723412635
What about that guy selling modded Switchs?

>>723412162
>outsells PC
lmao
Dude. Consoleplebs living in their bubble are something else.

>>723412632
there are no games for ps5, only movieslop
there are no games for switch 2, only toddlerslop

>>723412719
And there are no games on PC, just ports and games from other systems that are emulated.

>>723412632
There no games for consoles, only gimped slop.

>>723412775
and they all run better than the native hardware, can be modded and you'll be able to play them on future hardware
consolecucks get that specific shitty version without an upgrade path

>>723412636
Frontloaded with unprecedented supply. Sales have cratered hard, uh-huh.

>>723412775
Based

>>723412871
Reaching and cope

>>723412874
The holidays are gonna be a rude awakening for you.

>>723412713
He was flagrant about piracy. Modding your console isn't illegal either no matter how badly nintendo wishes it was.

>>723412957
Oh I'm looking forward to them, don't you worry.

>>723412926
what?
bloodborne on ps5 doesn't run any better, it's stuck with the shitty resolution and framerate
nintendo doesn't let you play ds and 3ds games on the switch at all
meanwhile a pc destroys them through emulation

>>723413135
Whats the plan for if the Switch 2 sells like hotcakes and breaks more records?

In the grand scheme of things, if one were to take Saiyan saga Dragon Ball and compare it to gaming companies.
Microsoft is Frieza in his final form, Sony is Vegeta, Nintendo is Goku, Sega is Piccolo, EA is Tienshinhan, Valve is Chiaozu.
Yamcha would be Konami and Krillin would be Capcom btw.

>>723413395

>Valve is Chiaozu.

Useless and irrelevant? I like.

>>723413273
Nothing changes, Nintendo is still a shitty skinwalker and its bootlickers are still retarded sheep. Both will be shat on accordingly.
But good luck with no games and that price.

>>723412635
Actually, according to case law, emulation is de facto illegal. The act itself technically doesn't violate any terms, but getting to it is illegal.

>you can't download games from the net because the online sites aren't "authorized to distribute"
>you cannot extract games from PSN or NSO or steam because that violates EULAs
>you cannot extract the games directly from your physical copies, as that violates DMCA

There is no legal way to emulate.

NINTENDO WON

NINTENDO HATERS BTFO

>>723360862
Fun of playing what? Old ports? Or playing same slop but now open world. Wow so fun.

>>723413790
But its okay when you can play it in a slightly better resolution on PC, right?

>>723413395
Nintendo is Vegeta, Valve is Goku, and Sony is Chiaotzu.
Anyone who thinks Valve hasn't become the strongest and in by far the best position for the long term is either totally ignorant or hard coping. Nintendo is a zombie at this point, even Vegeta is just out of respect for what they once were.

>>723413967
>dragon ball
You are the brownest mexican porch monkey.

Actually, Valve are full of fat lazy fucks, so they'd be Ox King or Guru. But at least Guru had the decency to fucking die.

>>723413623
I'll believe it when Nintedo actually wins any of those cases. DMCA's and EULAs are worthless until they have precedence in court, a corporation i allowed to say whatever they want in them.

Switch 2 is half baked, I'll get it when they inevitably die-shrink it and give it an oled

>>723414065
Following reply chains sure is hard. I had to look up Chiaotzu just know who it was.

>>723413956
you don't want to play old games on new hardware? or is it sour grapes because you can't and you don't actually own your hardware?

>>723414098
They can't be that bad if they make a tripfag shit himself so hard.Thanks, gay ben.

>>723414098
I like Chiaozu because he starts out as evil then becomes irrelevant. And Tien is already a side character making him a sidekick to a side character.

>>723414249
Not what I said. You're suggesting Nintendo's open world slop is fine if its being emulated on a fancy PC.

>>723414430
better performance does improve the experience

>>723411283
Where? I see shelves full of those in my cunt

>>723414152
>I'll believe it when Nintedo actually wins any of those cases
The courts have already affirmed that DMCAs and EULAs are binding. They've fined people even for making backups for personal use.

>>723415304
Source?

>>723411603
Oh no I can't play 3 games. I guess I'll have to resign myself to play the other remaining 32 million ones available.

thats fine, i still enjoy my deck, not going to get rid of it because you posted another "dude sell your deck and get a switch 2 because you have to be like the rest of /v/ because you just le do" thread.

>>723415662
2, and they're not even good.

>>723415672
>because you have to be like the rest of /v/
Vast majority of /v/ is PC and does not have a S2. Tendies are just autistically loud.

>>723415490
https://publishers.org/news/dc-circuit-court-rejects-effs-challenge-to-dmca-confirms-symbiotic-relationship-of-copyright-law-and-free-expression/

>>723415792
Vast majority has both.

>>723415858
A switch maybe, definitely not a switch2.

>>723415824
Upholding a specific dmca is not proving all dmca are binding. And this isn't even about video games.

>>723416434
The point still stands.

>>723360819 (OP)
Nintendo sells because of women. There's no other metric that impacts the sales difference as much as Nintendo's mass appeal to "the entire family." Well, women and autistic manchildren.

>>723360819 (OP)
and other make belief brought up by Navel-Lint

>>723416687
I just find it extremely unlikely for nintendo to not be suing far more people if this had any solid legal standing in relation to them. Instead they have to rely on flagrant cases of piracy in order to have any real case.

>>723360819 (OP)
I finally played all 3 Xenoblade Chronicles games on Switch 2. That alone made it worth it.

>>723418509
Did they run better on it

>>723418713
lol