Thread 723365334

Did we like Control 2?

even though they raceswapped that bitch at least it made sense she was the daughter of mr door

Do I need to play Control before playing Alan Wake 2?

>>723365334 (OP)
Control 2 isn't out yet.

>>723365631
No, but it provides a bit of context for one of the side characters.

>>723365334 (OP)
I liked it a lot. My only issue is that I don't like the crossover because it takes AW1's supernatural aesthetic and makes it more science fiction by virtue of Control stuff being there.

>>723365848
If anything AW2 and Control retroactively change what the narrative really was in AW1 and make it supernatural. Which I'm fine with. The Remedyverse has alot of potential

>>723365334 (OP)
why are "AAA" Finnish devs giga woke, just look at Alan woke 2 and Returnal
i though Finland was based and Sweden gay but its the other way around

>>723365631
No but knowing who the FBC are helps a lot so you should anyway.

>>723365973
it will shock you to learn that progressive values are the norm in creative spaces

Like all Remedy games, 10/10 experience, 6/10 video game.

I never finished control it was kinda shit.

>get to this part
>can't believe what I'm seeing
>think this is about to be pure giga slop cringe
>it was actual pure unfiltered kino
How did Sam do it?

>>723366165
He doesn't even know what cringe is

>>723366165
Whoever they got to do the Old Gods of Asgard songs are actually really good. That helps.

>>723366083
This. The cinematography and writing were outstanding. The camera work in the cutscenes was particularly standout. The gameplay was far inferior RE4/Dead Space gameplay. It never clicked

>>723365973
if their games are "giga" woke then what is Dragon Age Veilguards level? i dont think theyre even close lol

Sam self inserting himself self inserting as a character self inserting as Max Payne nearly broke my brain at certain points. I couldn't tell if it was brilliant meta, a clear homage to their roots, or something altogether. Either way, R.I.P. James

>>723366251
Poets of the Fall. They've been doing music for Remedy since Max Payne 2.

What's his endgame?

>>723365334 (OP)
Alan Wake 2 was fucking sick yeah.

>>723365631
It definitely helps you understand what the FBC actually does.

>>723366347
What fucks me up is that they were going to do an entire DLC episode with Alex Casey but had to can it because he died.

>>723366470
Mr Door's actor is also dead

>>723366506
*Hatch's, but he was meant to be Door too.

This might be one of the best looking games this generation. Amazing what happens when a competent developer is capable of making their own engine and not using UE5slop

>>723366627
>minimum specs are a 1070
its fucking witchcraft how they get shit to run so well on northlight

>>723365973
how is could returnal be seen as woke? cause you play as a middle aged woman?

>>723366627
the shimmering is really distracting

>>723366803
you lost tranny

>>723366880
You can try messing with the sharpening that fixed it for me.

>>723366261
They're the one studio where I would be more than happy for them to just make a walking simulator.

>>723367080
Because of Sam's directing and writing?

>>723366930
lick your dad’s taint faggot

>>723366416
People were theorizing he was some old Pagan deity who got displaced by the dark presence, and now he has to eek out a humble existence, masquerading as a janitor.

>>723365334 (OP)
Is it out on steam?

>>723366803
yes its extremely woke, their next game has poo poo Indian male lead

>>723365631
No, but you should. I enjoyed it more than AW1/2.

>>723367184
Because I dread getting locked in yet another enemy arena, and fighting the same basic enemies, because they have to pad for time.
Sometimes it's fine to just make a detective game, where maybe I fight two guys in the entire thing. I'd love them to make something like that.

>>723367381
that’s not returnal though. is crash bandicoot woke because naughty dog also made last of us 2?

>>723365973
remedy are a type of dev who seek b2b deals first and foremost, and dont really care about the playerbase that buy the games because its nonexistent or really small

>Quantum Break
funded by microsoft fully, nothing to worry about there
>Control
funded by 505 games + went epic exclusive and later appeared on all kinds of bundles e.g. humble bundle, Ps+ which pays devs/publisher up front. they also got a paycheck from nvidia.
>CrossfireX
funded by chinks, bombed, but remedy still get royalties
>Alan Wake 2
dev and marketing covered by epic, heavily nvidia sponsored meaning they got paid, networking with tr00nformers and SBI to raise remedy's esg score, also appeared on ps+
>FBC: Firebreak
self developed cheap product, scale of a mod, with day 1 release on subscription services to ensure short term growth

i saw it too

>>723367475
middle age woman is not woke but ugly one is

>>723367509
Don't forget Control 2 being half funded by Annapurna with movie and TV deals for Alan Wake and Control happening, and Max Payne remakes funded by Rockstar. People keep acting like they're going to die but the truth is that as long as they keep being critical darlings and making back their budget, then they're going to keep doing shit for people.

>>723367429
Idea: Remedy attached to modern Gabriel Knight derivative.
You'd have a fully 3D environment you can ride around on a bike. You talk to characters, gather clues, and solve puzzles, and there are odd moments where you have to react quickly to something or you die, and that's it.

>>723367634
nigga you’re retarded

>>723367509
Control was paid for by Remedy, 505 just published it. It was literally their "make or break" game with a shoestring budget to try and break them away from MS. To this day it's their lowest-budget title unless you count American Nightmare, but even then it's semi-comparable.

The main thing is that as long as their games win awards, the Finnish government ensures they get arts-based tax cuts, and the Finland government also provides benefits, sick pay, etc. So they don't have the same overhead as other companies.

>>723367559
>Lake says Control was directly based on the concept of this show
>Everyone screams that it was based on SCP even though he's said they didn't even know about SCP until near the end of the development and all they did was re-write some docs and decided to add the Fridge as an homage

>>723369056
Kiddies think the internet invented everything when a shadowy organisation that investigates the paranormal goes back at least to the X Files.

>>723369056
Sometimes I wonder if I wrote a piece of work that was pretty heavily inspired by some obscure shit if I could get away like that.

Dayman WOAAAAAAAAH
FIghter of the Nightmaaaan
WOAAAAAAAAAH
CHAMPION OF THE SUN!
HE'S A MASTER OF KARATE AND FRIENDSHIP FOR EVERYONE!

>>723369172
The number of X Files references in Control are like the Twin Peaks references in Alan Wake.

>>723369192
would unironically be a good fit

>>723365721
Yeah, OP was saying that AW 2 is basically Control 2 since it incorporates so much lore from Control

>>723366251
Did you not play Max Payne?

>>723366165
Honestly no, 'champion of light' is Marko's worst work. Honestly kind of fits Remedy's worst game.

>>723366416
Same endgame as taxi drivers in Vampire the Masquerade

>>723370109
actually no. I still need to get around to Max Payne.

>>723365631
As long as you understand that the FBC is the SCP foundation because Sam Lake is a hack, it's all good.

>>723370657
you mean Torchwood

>>723365334 (OP)
alan segments were 10/10 kino.
saga segments were like 7/10, maybe 6/10 since the performance tanks in her story for some reason. genuinely feels like the story was written by two different people for each character and the final draft mode did not have enough changes to make an entire second playthrough worth it (a better implementation would be something like NiER). all the DLC was great though

>>723370657
The FBC is basically SCP but written well and doesn't have a bunch of shitty backrooms and anime references.

>>723370823
Torchwood wasn't a mysterious faceless organization with gigantic containment facilities and seemingly limitless resources and they didn't scientifically study the shit they ran into leaving behind a massive paper trail of code numbered descriptions of monsters with half the details covered in black ink because that makes it more spooky.

>>723371507
>since the performance tanks in her story for some reason
I also noticed this and I think it's because they use a shit load of fog and wet shaders for the forest sections. It really tanked at the end during the storm.

>>723372360
maybe, but there were quite a lot of wet foggy parts in the dark place and it ran pretty solidly by comparison.

i hated the jump scares

alan wake 1 didnt have them

here you get constantly bombarded with loud ass jump scares

>>723373030
That was the least of that segment's problems. The fact they didnt actually do anything with the mind place getting invaded was a massive waste of opportunity. could have had you exploring outside of the cabin or maybe have some interesting mechanic that involves swapping in and out of locations.

also saga's biggest problem is she is voiced by a british voice actor and cannot keep her american accent consistent

>>723365334 (OP)
You mean Max Payne 6?
It’s alright

>>723365631
If you want full context to everything in the game you have to play everything by Remedy up to that point
Including Quantum Break and Max Payne

>>723366165
Have you played any Remedy game?
They all have that moment where the needle drops and you’re in for a kino music fueled stage

I'll get it on Steam 10 years from now for ~80% off

>>723373081
you're full of shit dude. Replay the 1st Alan Wake. There's several extremely loud jump scares where they flash Alice being pulled down into the lake with ear bleeding volume.

>>723366880
I’m playing the Final Draft right now and using FSR4 on it
Completely fixed all of that, now the game looks fantastic

>>723373030
To be fair, you’d be saying the same thing about a black person if they were annoying you like that

>>723373030
This was a really silly statement considering that she's married to a white guy and spends the entire game exploring the white nordic side of her own ancestry and the only thing we know about her black father is that he left and I'm pretty sure they implied he was abusive as well. It felt inexplicable outside of being a 100% Sweet Baby inclusion.

What do you think Alan's reasoning was behind using the Dark Place's reality-warping powers to turn Saga from a white woman to a black woman?
Did he do it just so the Old Gods twist in his book would seem more surprising?

I did. Ended up buying the game after playing cracked version for 6h.

(Jumpscares you)

>>723365848
Anon supernatural not being sciency is an impossibility. Even the supernatural is gorverned by laws, interactions and limitations. For example, why isn't a simple ghost or demon omnipotent? They aren't powerful enough, therefore they abide by laws, so they are science fiction.

>>723366416
Oh fuck, I just realised he looks like Hawk from Twin Peaks. Must be a reference

>>723365631
You need to have played Alan Wake and Alan Wake's American Nightmare. That's it. You'll get extra enjoyment from having played Max Payne 2, Control and Quantum Break. (Having played Death Rally gives you an easter egg.)

>>723365334 (OP)
game is mid, but herald of darkness is pure kino

>>723366416
What I don't get is that in Control he's implied to have some otherwordly powers, e.g. he never gets infected, can appear in liminal spaces, etc. Yet he needs us to unclog shit and other side quests

>>723365334 (OP)
Why are they started to shill this shit so hard again? A new Remedy "game"/dlc is about to come out?

>>723381143
Is american nightmare cannon? Even if it is all it really offers to AW2 is Mr. Scratch who is thoroughly explained in 2 anyway.
I say play Alan wake 1 and optionally control if you want to understand the FBC.

>>723382536
Yes. It was just an escape failure, but it happened. You need to know Mr. Scratch to frame Alan Wake 2 correctly.

You don't need to understand FBC more than what it obviously is on the surface and Alan Wake 2 provides that at the start as long as you explore a bit.

>want to get that bundle
>Alan Wake Remaster and Alan Wake 2 are epic only
Is there ANY possibility of any of them going to steam or gog one day or should i just bite the bullet?

>>723365631
not really. i loved alan wake 2 but dropped control cause its so fucking boring and the main character is ugly

I didn't like it much, felt like they doubled down too much on all the quicky Remedy meta stuff and it couldn't keep a consistent tone.

>>723365445
To this day I wonder which way it went
Did they
>get forced by SB and publishers to raceswap Saga by and rewrote parts of the story for it to make sense
Or did they
>raceswap Saga of their own accord because they wanted a way to include QB and Hatch/Door in the story
It's Remedy so it could really be whichever, they're known for making weird decisions and sidestepping publishers

>>723365334 (OP)
Yes because we finally got more Dr. Darling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmG80jZ0MFw

>>723384541
Obligatory

>>723384769
How is a nerdy shut-in doctor this fucking buff anyway

>>723365334 (OP)
How does Alan Wake 2 compare to the first one? I played the first one last year around Halloween and was so letdown. I found it really derivative, with clunky dialogue and poor pacing but with some neat concepts and charming tone despite that.

>>723386865
Not sure how dialogue can be "clunky" but AW2 plays almost exactly like the Resident Evil remakes, except you have fight Taken and have to use the flashlight the same way you did in 1
Similarly to the RE remakes, game is open world. In fact, just think about it as RE2: Remake except it's Alan Wake. It's that similar.
The story and themes take a very different direction, it becomes even more like Twin Peaks in it's weirdness while also changing a lot of things so it fits in the "Remedy Connected Universe" (their version of the MCU) so playing Control and Quantum Break helps you understand a lot of things a lot better but if you liked particular thematic things in the first game, you might not find them in the second game.

>>723365334 (OP)
Game was dogshit. 1 was better.

>>723386865
2 is worse in everyway.

>>723387329
Is it as good as RE2?

*cough* *hack* *wheeze*
P-play me....... Before it's too late for Remed-AAAAAAACK!!!!

>>723387721
I am playing it THOUGH
it is too late, this game is probably not going to see it's second major update because Remedy is either gonna go under or they're gonna downsize and pull the plug

>>723387721
What the fuck were they thinking?

Yeah I greatly enjoyed it. Looking forward to more Remedykino.

>>723387329
Lol it's nothing like RE2 Remake, what the fuck are you talking about? 70% of the game is a walking simulator with "puzzles" you can't fail. There's no survival horror gameplay. The combat is super simplistic compared to Alan Wake 1

>>723387721
This is a Remedy game? What's it like?

>>723365334 (OP)
Sure, watching Sam Lake getting murdered was pretty kino

>>723380585
That's the entire point though they don't abide by laws which makes them spooky.
When you start adding rules you lose a lot of the magic to magical shit.

I hate how parts of the AW1 mythos got retroactively ruined by them tying into the Control universe. Sometimes it's better to not leave things explained. First thing you hear in the game yet Remedy completely shat on it in AW2

>>723388615
I played aw1 in preparation for aw2 and I cant really think of anything thats ruined.
aw1 was a really mid game from production values standpoint, and now only reason to think about it is its connection to a much better game

If I want the twin peaks meets Max Payne vibe Alan wake was going for, is Alan wake 2 good?

Why don't Remedy games sell well despite being very polished and competently made?

>>723365848
>>723388615
It's hard to explain but AW1 was at it's greatest when it was just a troubled but smart writer trying to outwit an intelligent, eldritch horror
When you introduce Control into the mix you realize "oh, the dark presence is just another SCP and alan is an unfortunate victim and now here comes the SCP foundation to completely break down the monster that terrified us the entire first game"

>>723388697
They didn't ruin anything in particular but the unexplained supernatural phenomena is what kept the story interesting.
AW1 was more than top-tier in production quality. Not a 10/10 game by any means but solid presentation nonetheless.

>>723388783
Control sold well, and was an actually good game, aw2 is a shit game and it didn't sell well, simple

Samiverse is metakino

>>723388914
Aw1 had good writing and bad everything else

>>723388756
2 is literally The Return, they don't bother hiding it.

>>723387643
I think so, it's good third person survival horror when you get to the horror parts of the game but there are parts where you can just walk around town doing busywork
>>723388393
>70% of the game is a walking simulator with "puzzles" you can't fail
I like to pull numbers out of my ass too but tell me how that differs from RE2 Remake? DId you forget backtracking ten million times through the police station while dodging respawning enemies and doing inventory management?
If you're talking about the side content that makes you walk around town, then that's the only thing that breaks apart the survival horror parts of the game. If you ignore them, you're taken from one shadowy woods to another. Nevermind the fact that Alan's side of the game is almost nonstop combat.
>The combat is super simplistic compared to Alan Wake 1
It's the same though
>flashlight
>gun
>dodge, if needed
Except you're slower and have inertia

>>723365631
I liked it but its not necessary, it gives you context for the X-files like organization that appear near the end of the game.
I would still strongly recommend it, its very good.

>>723388447
Three-player co-op shooter that has you going around the oldest house and doing janny work while killing Hiss and now Mold as well. It's good fun but not really worth the full price unless you just really want to get back into the Oldest House.
It's barely a Remedy game really, it doesn't really have any of the hallmarks of a Remedy game. It's just set in the Control universe.

Kojima can get fucked. Sam Lake is the true vidya auteur

>>723365334 (OP)
Games like this & Kojima games proves that Pretentious "Art" gamers only care about vibes and not about depth, for them everything is in style, substance is irrelevant.

When the reality is that Style and Substance should go hand in hand for a game like this.

At least they admit the gameplay sucks

>>723389353
The gameplay in MGSV is top tier thoughevermaybeit

>>723389245
Those Death Stranding games are the most 5/10 games on the entire planet.

It's not le loop...

It's... It's... le spiral...

>>723389054
Cool thanks.
Just hope I don't feel deathly conscious about mortality and aging from playing it

I think honestly the biggest thing I don't like about AW2 is the big open maps. I would have preferred it just be a normal linear survival horror game like 1 was. All the added exploration just kills the pacing.

>>723365631
I played Control before both Alan Wake games and I liked it that way. I much prefer the Control-centric universe full of these bizarre quasi-scientific anomolies, where Alan Wake is one person's story within that universe, rather than the Wake-centric universe where he's the MC and Control and the FBC exists as a construct within his writing.

>>723390062
Why is /v/ incapable of hating this man?

best song in any of their games passing through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQAVUpCGM0I

>>723381682
>What I don't get is that in Control he's implied to have some otherwordly powers, e.g. he never gets infected, can appear in liminal spaces, etc. Yet he needs us to unclog shit and other side quests
That's because of the fact that he's simultaneously both 100% human and 100% supernatural demon something. Kind of like Jesus. We know that's philosophically impossible but anything's possible in the realm of a story and it makes for an interesting character.

>>723390880
Why isn't he evil? He treats Tom and Jesse really well.

>>723365334 (OP)
No Barry, no buy.

>>723389534
Yeah when i said gameplay i refer to Alan Wake 2.
MGS gameplay is usually decent like 7/10


Ironically i just finished MGS3 and i think its gameplay is the second strongest part after presentation, its like 8/10 in gameplay. 10/10 presentation. 4/10 story 5/10 characters and 8/10 level design.

Pretty good but its weakest part is the writing

Be honest, bros. How likely is an AW2 rerelease on Steam pr GoG?

>>723365334 (OP)
When you play Alan Wake it's fun. Not really when you play blackwashed agent.

>>723391486
This. Saga's sections are such unbelievable ass.

>>723365334 (OP)
there is no control 2 and there never will be, remedy blew all their money on buying the goty award and are now going down with their woke garbage.

>>723391426
Timmy literally said "never." They paid for the game.

>>723391486
Why does everyone keep saying she is Blackwater? Was she ever supposed to be white?

It was alright but as soon as I realised the plot was going to be a 1:1 copy of john carpenter's In The Mouth of Madness I lost a lot of immersion.

>>723391854
Yes she was literally an already existing character who was a white woman

>>723392152
Proofs? I didn't know this. What the fuck Sam? Why would he do this?

I find it incredibly devastating that we couldnt talk about aw2 for years without deluge of insane spam.
Im just confused where is that spam itt, did the russian troll factories move onto other projects? What?

>>723392197
It was free on Playstation this month

>>723392078
in the mouth of madness if sutter cane was being a little bitch

It looks like True Detective S1.

>>723392185
https://youtu.be/iePFK5BB_m4?si=0b2w_uESHVBUNWlk

>>723392884
the game wasnt made yet at that point you insane pos

>>723387329
kill yourself retarded lying goy

>>723386865
I couldn't finish the first mostly out of boredom of the gameplay. The second game has pretty much the exact same problems as the first, but I managed to slog through it probably because at least you're swapping back and forth between Alan and Saga to break up the monotony. The story is ok just for the spectacle of it, but it's also set up in a way where anything can happen and anything can be retconned and nothing is ever really going to matter.

>>723392946
Was Saul not already a character in Breaking Bad and he only truly existed when Better Call Saul started airing?

>>723392538
basically

>>723392946
NTA, but that's the only time, when the blackwashing could've happened, before the game. So what are you even arguing?

alan sections kino especially new york and the hotel

saga section is forgettable snore fest

>>723366585
lol he is dead

>>723394539
IThey made a game that didnt exist yet.
Are you mad about something

>>723394690
I'm not angry at all. I'm saying Quantum Break had established Saga and explicitly named her and then about a decade later she was black from the start of Alan Wake 2, so you knowing that and being told as new information that she was blackwashed, by necessity should've concluded that the blackwashing must've happened before Alan Wake 2's release, if it was real. That is natural and obvious, so calling someone insane for pointing that out is unjust on your part.

>>723366470
>>723366585
>remedy loses two key actors in the same fucking year, one of which has worked for them for almost as long as they've been a studio
fucking hell, the universe is just dunking on an already struggling studio
wouldn't be surprised at all if Matthew Porretta suddenly died and they lost both Darling and Alan Wake's voice

>>723392946
>they made this character white
>"oh wow I can't believe this do you have any proof?"
>posts proof
>"YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT THAT DOESN'T COUNT
Bait

>>723395125
>>723395750
Again
There was no game
Then they made a game
Can you sotp?

>>723395351
Weren't they doing a Max Payne 1 remake? How the fuck can you have Max Payne without James? Simply isn't possible.

>>723395831
>i-it doesn't count
Yeah you said that already

>>723396256
Are people allowed to make a game without upsetting you

>>723396289
A strange deflection and equally strange projection. I will instead reverse the question. Are people allowed to make a post without upsetting you?

>>723395831
Why do you want us to stop? What does it change? Why not accept how things are with no hard feelings?

Remedy Connected Universe is a thing, so there were games for which Alan Wake 2 is a sequel. Remedy's games don't exist in a vacuum. Secondly they also said Sweet Baby encouraged them to change a character's race and they then had new ways of making the story, which they took.

>>723396363
>>723396374
Does sam lake need to beg you for you to allow him to make design decisions for a remedy game

>>723396374
Sweet Baby is dead and gone right? Even the normgroids had about enough of that shit.

>>723396454
You seem to have issue with people having opinions without the need to have that opinion be catered to at all times without getting upset(which you are right now). Says a lot about you as a person that you take that as the norm.

>>723396524
They weren't dead at the time.

>>723396594
You have sam lake tied to a chair in your basemenent
He casted a mulatto character in a game and casted a black guy as her father.
What sorta punishment are you going to deal to him for this severe moral failing?

>>723396735
Why would I have Sam Lake tied to a chair in my basement? I like Sam Lake. I also really like Alan Wake 2. I think you need to go see a therapist cause you're clearly very mentally ill and have issue with dealing with reality.

>>723396816
But he did the thing that you spent years frosting over on 4chan
like you've been so mad you've been at it for literal years

Dont tell me you dont want to crush his testicles and rape him to show him his worth

>>723396207
They were, they are, and I agree with you and have no idea how they're gonna pull this off

>>723396937
Damn you're now getting mad at the voices in your head. I think a lobotomy is the only solution.

>>723391816
I'm thankful to Tmmy but I still want to gove money to Remedy without Epic and Tencent taking a cut

I liked the 1st Alan Wake more but I still thought 2 was decent. Shame they will never make another one as it bombed hard.

Remedy is a company that deserves way more success. Sam Lake is a very talented writer and director, and their games are unique. Plus that Northlight engine is some good shit

>>723365334 (OP)
I haven't even played the first one... the snoybro of the friend circle bought a ps5 just for this game and he wants to show it to us and boast while we eat pizza. Me and friends call nights like this "movie nights" and we've watched him play slop like TLOU1&2 and Uncharted.

>>723398460
You seem upset about spending time with friends

>>723397757
He definitely knows how to create a unique vibe in his games that I like and definitely elevate his games to being more enjoyable and memorable than they honestly kinda deserve.

>>723398596
no it's not that, i just don't know if I should watch a youtube video (recap) of the first game in order to enjoy this one but I also hear that I need to know about another game called Control as well?

>>723373030
"Other Saga" is evil and the point of this sequence is to banish these incorrect thoughts.

>>723399330
well no its based on what saga might feel, or fear
or intrusive thoughts
its entirely plausible for a black woman in america to think about race in their lives, or structures around race

>>723399543
Yes, but people post the picture to say the game is woke, but the game is actually disagreeing with the woke text in the picture.

>>723399935
Its woke in the sense they tried to have a black character with more depth and verisimilitude than usual.

>>723365334 (OP)
>liking things
I don't know, senpai. Not for me.

I'm expecting that Max Payne remake to get cancelled.

>>723400359
its funded by rockstar publisher?

Im looking forward to playing mp for the first time after hearing so much about it.

>>723400036
The average black American is woke. Yes.

If Saga got Taken, she would become Detta from the Dark Tower.

>>723371748
>basically SCP but written well
What happened to SCP was a tragedy but weirdly enough it was also the start of every interesting /x/ post creating internet phenomenons that get milked dry, some guy makes a shitpost on /x/ and it ends up snowballing into a 30 million views a video content farm that slowly gets eroded by the hour with every other content farm noticing, then taking their own spin on it till it’s unrecoverable sludge that barely resembles the original idea while usually toned down to appeal to children.
transgender satellite stories to peoples OCs running amok on what supposed to be a cold unfeeling branch of shadow government, that shits supposed to read like a washing machine manual, like you stumbled on a catalog of horrors that are in a bunker somewhere, the Mpreg Plague Doctor story still sits in the back of my mind, ironically a plague of its own

>>723400554
Theres many games where blacks are cardboard moral centre of the gang. Even bg3 was like that. Its the most straightforwad way to avoid controversy or bad pr.

Saga is a shining example of how game studios should think about black characters for the future.

>>723400771
schizo shitposter doesnt even care to read the thread

>>723400706
I like Saga more than Wyll, but I liked Alan Wake 1's approach to black characters better.

>>723366416

Sauna.

I finished it a few hours ago. It was better than I thought it would be but some parts were dragging on too long.

>>723402295
> some parts were dragging on too long.
like what
I thought the pacing was about as good as one might expect thanks to the 2 protags in different environments and scene segments

>>723373030
>The evil version of Saga called The Other Saga is infuriatenly woke

Pretty based take from Remedy.

>>723378748
AHHHH!!!

>>723373329
I feel like even knowing this is a bit of a spoiler, but I did need to know this, so thanks. Ditto to other replies to the same post.
Last one I played was Alan Wake, and I was probably going to play Control before Alan Wake II, I didn't know I should play Quantum Break as well.
Of course I might just play none of them because fuck this "dude it's an interconnected universe so you need to consume our entire creative portfolio in order to understand it" bullshit that every intellectual property has become. I was fine with Alan Wake being a standalone story with indirect easter-egg references to Max Payne.

To this day I never played QB because of the tv show segments

>>723402295
Saga is a total MILF!

>>723400524
>mfw Remedy dies and the development of Max Payne remake is moved to Grove Street Games
can't wait for Max Pajeet

>>723403274
I liked them cause I had a crush on Jesse from Control which I played first so it was like seeing her brought to life when the same chick was in QB.

>>723403274
Can you even still play it? I know the streaming servers for the TV episodes were offline at some point and that stopped people from seeing them altogether

>>723396207
>How the fuck can you have Max Payne without James?
My bet is just on them reusing all of the audio from the originals like other remakes are doing.

>>723380585
I like when supernatural stuff mashes with sci-fi, but what I mean is that Alan Wake's aesthetic is deeply rooted in hauntings and ghost stories whereas 2 makes it SCP stuff thanks to Control's introduction. They bring it back towards the end but I don't like that Scratch is defeated once by the patented Control Power Cube Puzzle.
>>723387721
>>723388308
I'M PLAYING IT TOO
They won't go under, but they're definitely going to pull the plug on it after the November update. I doubt they'll do anything major in 2026 and just focus on Max Payne and Control 2 while keeping the servers up. Shame too because you can tell they want to make a Deep Rock like but don't have enough depth for it.

>>723404738
> I had a crush on Jesse from Control
Did she remind you of your big sister?