Thread 723422349

Have you cleared them yet, /v/?

>>723422349 (OP)
No, I consider Raptor and Tyrian to be the only shmups worth playing.

The amount of autism required to enjoy these is too much even for /v/.

>>723422895
It's just moving and shooting. Not nearly as much autism required as some of the WRPGs, roguelikes, and simulation games people enjoy.

>>723422349 (OP)
DingDongwhatchi?.. just more cookie-cutter, boring "shots-everywhere" junk to BORE me to TEARS, sorry. Last one of these new games I tried was Ikaraga... Sorry! but I learned to play color-matching games when I was two, don't need to do it anymore! Deleted THAT computer application from my Dell desktop after about 20 minutes.

R-Type, Gradius, Darius... those classics are a little more up MY alley. No TINY hitboxes to make the game look harder than it is, no half-naked japanimation cartoon girls, no gimmicky scoring to cover up the total lack of any real substance... just a little thing called good old-fashioned GAMEPLAY that seems to be forgotten nowadays... yep, I love all the super-duper powerups, and checkpoints.. yes recovery is HARD but not IMPOSSIBLE. You actually have to put in a little elbow grease to get your strength back! Something the little ones today could stand to learn from, if you ask me! They seem to want games where you can kill everything on the screen with one button press, right after inserting a coin! Instant gratification with no challenge for the participation-trophy generation. And personally, I usually prefer a "side-view" kind of shooter compared to a "bird's eye view" one, all those obstacles give levels a lot more personality, not such a common thing when every me-too game wants to look and play the same.

Me, I've been playing a lot of R-Type part two lately. I can only clear a couple of boards on my first man right now. I may wear out my joystick before I can manage my one quarter win! But I don't quit! What can I say, I prefer a little hard work to getting a free handout! Playing some Wings of Wor on my Sega too, and Bio-Hazard Battle. Great vintage stuff!

sonic wings 2/aerofighters 2 is the only good shmup on earth

>>723422349 (OP)
redpill me on ketsui
I live cave games but haven't tried it yet, is it another one that's stuck on the xbox360?

>>723422349 (OP)
I've got them all and I like playing them but I'll honestly never put in the time for a proper 1cc (except for dangun feveron). I'm just an stg secondary.

>>723425914
It's on ps4. I haven't played enough to tell you what exactly is stand out about it outside of surface level polish stuff.

shumps are for chumps

I cleared Garegga but on emulator with the CPU speed turned down for slowdown assist

>>723425914
MAME is always an option.

>>723422349 (OP)
>Cave shit

>>723426465
Post you're favorite schmup.

>>723424821
>moving and shooting
Thats the issue, same thing as movement shooters, they are mechanically "simple" on the surface but they are both games designed around autistically grinding to be 1% better on your next run/match over and over.

>>723422349 (OP)
Still trying to clear crimzon clover

The only hard part of 1cc'ing daioujou is not getting distracted by leinyan's thick thighs in the loading screen. I also suspect much of the praise of garegga is purely due to its aesthetics, less than 0.1% of the people playing it are playing it for score and I would not want to play another game that is a carbon copy of its mechanics. Really DOJ is the only near perfect game here, but it's unique enough that it doesn't invalidate or devalue any other games, except for those within its own series. I don't see any arguments as to why ketsui is better than Mars matrix or Futari.

Also there are zero good shmups made before 1994.

>>723426169
thanks anon, I'll look into it and see how much it is on ps4
>>723426403
idk, I don't like playing cave games in MAME for some reason, the resolution is really low and I have a hard time playing compared to their modern releases that I played

>>723426821
This webm offers a harrowing look into the life of the autistic.

>>723426834
Based Psikyo chad!

I don't care for Raizing or Cave.

>>723426904
Go play Mars Matrix

>>723426878
>the resolution is really low
Just turn off bilinear filtering.

>>723426983
Ugly, boring game.

>>723426834
Is it because of booba?

>no muchi muchi pork
nothing holy about lacking plump pig girls

>>723427012
There's that superficial and shallow mollusk-like reaction to base stimulus I was referring to with garegga, confirming my suspicions. Truly normalfags are a plague upon this rotten earth.

>>723427219
Shmups are less games and more stimming tools for the low functioning autistic.

>>723427032
Everything is just better.

>>723427276
I got an erection the first time I 1cc'd a game, name another genre where that happens

>>723427438
eroge

i like this one

>>723427516
That only happens when you lose, flawed and clown-like genre

>>723427609
??

>>723427658
All eroge is either VNs, which are not games, or cheaply made flash games where the objective is to lose and get raped by monster girls

>>723427851
>There's that superficial and shallow mollusk-like reaction to [...]

>>723422349 (OP)
Is there a blue ship in DOJ hidden behind a code or something? Do they seriously only have the green and red ones?

>>723424991
you are dumb as shit ketsui ura loop is harder than any r type or darius game
these posers have never played these games

>>723427851
How about those games in which you do the raping?

>>723427851
Play secret flasher manaka, it bucks this trend

>>723427276
>replying to the onimai avatarfag non-player

>>723427984
Based boomer shmup enjoyer got another one

>>723427984
hownew.ru

>>723428126
shut up punk

>>723422880
based

>>723428193
Imagine seething this hard over copypasta

>>723424991
chatGPT is getting really good

>>723428002
Shmups have already mastered this subgenre

What is the single shmup I should that if I don't like it, then the entire genre isn't for me? I've been trying to get into this genre for a while but might just have to accept it isn't for me

>>723428493
Futari black label

>>723428396
Caladrius Blaze suck though. Even Psikyo girls show more skin than those sticks tease.

>>723428994
>Even Psikyo girls show more skin than those sticks tease.
Okay pedro

>>723429156
>stick
>no tits
Meanwhile>>723427425

>>723429270
>looking like a stripper is attractive
What are you, like 65 years old? No one's surprised when a stripper gets naked, shit and gross taste unc

>>723429372
Renge never said this

This but replace these literal whos with
>Ikaruga
>Lightning Force IV
>DeathSmiles

>>723429421
>Cave shit

>>723429554
Fine, then replace DS with Andro Dunos II.

wtf happened to shmup threads? they were nice until recently, where did all these avatarfags that hate everything come from?

>>723429732
i think it's just the same fag who's talking too much

>>723429732
>they were nice until recently
No they weren't lmao

>>723429732
>they were nice
500 posts of mork autism isn't nice

>>723422349 (OP)
Yeah on the easy mode.

>>723426834
More like ten guys in my ass

>>723426834
I love the art in Psikyo games but I don't really like the games

The greatest shmup ever created

Marverous

i wish my local arcade had some FUCKING SHMUPS instead of catering to RHYTHM NORMIES and their GAY LITTLE FAST BUTTON TAP GAMES

>>723422349 (OP)
i have never played a shmup before

>>723431415
smart, keep it up

>>723431492
they look rly hard but also cool artstyle wise

>>723431173
IIDX is harder than shmups.

>>723431968
I don't give a rat's fuck my cock is even harder but it's not getting catered to either

>>723426878
It's $35 on PS4 which may be steep but it's because it's an insanely good port with tons of features and perfect accuracy

>>723431067
Psychic Team > Climinal Team > Police Team
Yes Shorty is the best character in the game but she has to team with two retards. Maria and Strawman are both top-tier and Golden is alright too. The criminals are all a bit harder to use but solid.

>>723428109
>non-player
Wrong

>>723426821
>less than 0.1% of the people playing it are playing it for score
Because clearing it is hard enough
If Garegga was only enjoyed for is aesthetics then far more people would be playing Batrider instead

>>723433846

I play Batrider just for the choons

>>723433846
>Because clearing it is hard enough
But as a survival game it's really not that interesting, certainly not best game ever interesting. Like there's literally not a single reason to ever touch a medal in a survival run, they may as well be bullets. Think about how important scoring is in shit like crimzon clover even for just 1cc'ing.

>>723434362
>Like there's literally not a single reason to ever touch a medal in a survival run, they may as well be bullets
yeah i'm thinking non-player lmao
Max medals don't increase rank, only the smaller ones do. Chaining medals up to stage 5 gets you a few extra extends, which means chances to lower the rank, which means an easier clear. Same reason you'd bomb the flamingos in a survival run.

>>723422880
>I consider [worthless dogshit] to be the only shmups worth playing

>>723436024
But this is a literal "non-player" mindset and you're better off ignoring all of that shit, and if you're going to wait to page 10 to reply then I'm not going to respond to you. Resetting your run if you drop a chain before s4 is not only a miserable way to play the game and awful design, but also unnecessary and stupid.

>>723431580
You should pick up the one that looks the coolest to you and try to get good at it

>>723436471
You don't have to reset every time you drop your chain, but scoring objectively helps. For example you can play balls out in stage 1, pump up the rank, and it literally doesn't even matter if you just die and bomb the flamingos, it goes back to like 0-1%. Page 6 btw

>>723430819
I don't care how bad contrarianism gets, I fucking love Ikaruga

>>723437018
Just play Gain and you can get more extends off the birds, he's the only character that's any fun to play anyways. This drastically reduces the amount of chaining necessary to get extends because, once again, the scoring system is so incredibly boring and awful.

>>723437216
Wild Snail is fun and has a cool flamethrower

>>723427219
Didn't you say you were done posting in shmup threads like... 6 threads ago? What gives?

>>723439287
Notice how people scatter out of the thread like roaches under a light when you actually talk about playing the games?

>>723422349 (OP)
No, because shmups are not particularly fun.

>>723439427
Implying?

>>723422349 (OP)
As classic as DaiOuJou's cover art is, replace that with Mars Matrix. And then Garegga with Batrider. Then you'd have the true divine trinity, each company's best.

>>723426821
>there are zero good shmups made before 1994
Gradius 3 AC

>>723424991
Bait used to be believable.

>>723426821
>Also there are zero good shmups made before 1994
Parodius Da

>>723426821
>Also there are zero good shmups made before 1994.
Batsugun, nigga.

Reminder if you're playing Battle Garegga on PC use the bgareggaz rom on the FinalBurn Neo in RetroArch (it's in the full 1.0.0.3 set, it's a hack that removes the boot-up time and enables the extra characters without the Konami code) and set the runahead to 3 frames. Battle Garegga on arcade hardware has 4-5 frames of internal lag, so 3 frames of runahead will make it play wonderfully. Also, if you want to see your rank percentage, enable the Stage Edit dipswitch.

>>723422349 (OP)
this is a shitty list that doesnt mean anything.
>battle gayregga
shitty shmup that actively punishes you for playing well. A system like this and rank in DOJ are different as the latter allows you to manipulate rank with bombing or other means.
As for the other two you can only pick one or the other and personally I chose DOJ since it actually has some thought put into it rather than kek onions which was just created to be hard and nothing more. The third game naturally has to be a horizontal shmup. the answer is obvious: gradius
as this list is now, its just subjective favorites

>>723440887
>shitty shmup that actively punishes you for playing well
Actually, it punishes you for playing badly. Which in the context of the rules of the game is picking up too many powerups or setting the autofire too high too early. What, you thought every shmup needed to follow the same rules?

>>723440887
>the answer is obvious: gradius
whoa there gradius is dogshit, there's a myriad of better horizontal games. rolling gunner, g-darius, progear, deathsmiles. only gradius v is really any good, and that's relative.

>>723441047
>you picked up too many powerups kys
>btw theres no tutorial or manual telling you this
dumb niggery mechanic. and even if i did like it, its too far out there of a design to consider to a normal player hence why it cant be in a holy trinity

>>723440887
>as this list is now, its just subjective favorites
actually it's somewhat based on polling

>>723441389
nta but you can't go off system 11, they got hishouzame in there. dont be like idiots that just parrot rpg codex, thats how you get a dead and worthless genre.

>>723441389
full list btw in case you're curious what a bunch of retarded boomers think

>>723441629
Am I supposed to be mad? Every game in the genre worth playing except for espgaluda 2 is there.

>>723441839
no honestly it's fine i just think the clientele on that website are kinda cringe

>>723441839
not even close

>>723441908
You're right, I just noticed ibara is missing too.

>>723441973
there are hundreds of shmups worth playing

>>723442007
No, lol. There is no genre with a hundred games worth playing.

No I will not pirate, I want to buy it legally.

>>723442065
you can tell this is slop from the cover art alone

>>723442061
puzzle games and fighting games(yes even the non 2d ones)

>>723442254
Name 100 puzzle games and 100 fighting games worth playing.

>>723442254
Jesus Christ these have even less games
No you cannot name 100 variants of Picross, that doesn't count

>>723429732
>they were nice until recently
LIAR

>>723442359
I would fulfill your request if i felt like my time wont be wasted humoring you, but having played more games than you can even fathom i can assure you that there are many games in those two genres worth playing because theyre the most base form of games as a whole. mind puzzles and competition
>>723442481
a lot of versions of tetris play differently from each other. even the slightest change to the formula can make one version feel completely different from the other

>>723422349 (OP)
Why are they called Shmups and not Bullet Hell?

>>723422349 (OP)
Not garegga yet

>>723422880
Did you actually played them? If so, show clips

>>723442747
The only 2 good fighting games are jojoban and karnovs, and puzzles are not games

>>723422349 (OP)
Nope. Shmups are boring as fuck.

>>723442780
bullet hell is a type of shmup.

>>723442868
Not enough gay romance for you?

>>723442780
Bullet hell is a subgenre with lots of bullets and a small (usually just a few pixels) player hitbox
Stuff like R-Type or Truxton are not bullet hells, but they can be harder and less forgiving
Battle Garegga has bullet hell-like patterns in stage 6 and 7, though some may say the player hitbox is too big to be classified as such

>>723441482
>dont be like idiots that just parrot rpg codex, thats how you get a dead and worthless genre.

What did he mean with this?

>>723427951
Technically the player 2 type A ship is the blue one, so try that. The player 2 type B is a yellow one

>>723443050
Any genre that is dictated by slavs and boomers will ultimately become nothing but gay porn vns

>>723442991
if we ignore cho aniki or gunbird maybe

>>723443038
>>723442884

Wow i guess i never played those schmups then. I like Enter the Gungeon lol

Can you recommend me the best gateaway schmup to play? the one game that i must play if im new to this and dont recommend me a game you think is bad or complex, just a good intro to the genre.
I want the game to tell me if i should play more or fuck off from this genre.

Also tell me where i can download it, i dont want to buy since im not sure its for me yet

>>723443191
>Can you recommend me the best gateaway schmup to play
No

>>723443191
Batsugun Special Version, it's on MAME or FinalBurn Neo, you can easily find roms for it
Batsugun is sort of an in-between point of the old-style of shmups and the bullet hells that came later. It has a smaller hitbox and more bullets than usual, but the bullets are fast like the older shmups. The difficulty is decently high if you've never played these games before, but pretty low for a shmup and you should be able to clear the Special Version in one credit after a reasonable amount of hours, I think I took like 4 hours. Special Version is easier than the original game, it has slightly slower bullets and more "bullet hell"-like patterns, and it has a one-hit shield that replenishes whenever you fill up the EXP bar at the bottom (which also upgrades your weapon.)

>>723443378
Did you clear anything other than batsugun yet

>>723443413
Yes

>>723430819
Genuinely don’t understand how people enjoy Ikaruga
And I’m not saying this to be contrarian or bait people, I legitimately want to enjoy it
But every time I play it, I get so hung up on the chaining that I end up getting frustrated at the smallest mistake
And I can’t 1cc it either

all shmups are the fucking same

>>723443378
>Batsugun Special Version
Thank you, i will take your word and download this game. Hopefully its a fun game.

>>723443610
Not even close, compare dodonpachi to the ray series to mars matrix to darius to guwange. These are all WILDLY different games. And even ignoring mechanics, the amount of things you can do with bullet patterns is insane. Just think about all the doom wads that have been made with doom's tiny simple weapon and enemy pool, its like that but even crazier.

I found Batsugun Special Version in GOG. I dont think i need a ROM for it, i can just download it and try it and if i like it, i will pay.

Reply to me if the GOG version is not okay, otherwise ignore.

>>723443635
Have fun. Just remember that it's a different mindset from modern games. You can credit-feed your first run to learn the game, but don't just drop it and assume "oh it's just a shitty little 30 minute game." The goal is to beat it in one credit. You don't necessarily have to, if you feel like you've gotten enough out of it you can move on, but just remember that's the goal.

>>723443848
Yeah that version is fine

>ikaruga? radiant silvergun? einhander? naw those games are trash bro, you can see what's happening on the screen
>you need to play suijubuijujinsama THE FINAL EX+, you play as a pixel hitbox and you dodge waves of pink vomit, it's leet

>>723443851
>The goal is to beat it in one credit

I don't know what that means, you mean perma death run?

>>723443848
Its just straight up worse than using an emulator.

>>723443924
When you lose all your lives in a shmup your score resets and you have to spend a credit to continue. The bare minimum goal is to beat the game on a single credit.

>>723443924
Basically yeah. You get 3 lives, and if you lose them you get a prompt that says "Please Continue"
In the arcade each of those 3 lives is paid for with a quarter. So the goal is to beat it without spending more than 1 quarter.
It's not as bad as it seems. These games are usually only 20-30 minutes long. You just have to do hardcore gaming for 20-30 minutes. And again, your initial runs can use multiple credits so you can see the whole game and practice every stage. You can also use save-states to practice if you desire. It's just that the goal is one clean run with no continues.

>>723422349 (OP)
>garegga
Truly a timeless masterpiece. Nothing better than get home, get some snack and reset stage 2 for 2 hours straight.

>>723422880
Have you played this? I liked tyrian and raptor too but this one is my favourite.

>>723442171
Ya mama.

>>723444098
>>723444079
I see, thanks for taking the time to write this.

>>723444276
Instead of Batsugun, I would instead recommend Mushihimesama or Espgaluda if you really want to learn. Batsugun is fine, but you really won't learn anything. The aforementioned games have many tutorials on youtube and they will drill you with the fundamentals of the genre and temper your expectations for what is required to tackle more challenging games. I also recommend watching this so you can at least become familiar with the terminology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6poF7XA-HfE&list=PLVUJptiBMeVslB9I4vFOjOAjQ2-FjYdTe

>>723444434
buy an ad mork

>>723444496
actually thats the homosexual european guy

>>723444543
That guy looks a lot like Mork

>>723444726
He's actually quite insightful

>>723444850
nope you are not insightful and neither is mork

>>723444930
you mean you aren't

actually i wonder why indie nu-shmups haven't added an invincible dodge roll

>>723445452
Only people who actually like shmups make them
Maybe we'll get a rollslop shmup when Zeroranger gets a video essay

>>723445452
the kobayashi dragon maid game on steam has a invincible dodge

people shilling their crappy youtube channels in these threads are so pathetic
i blame mork for this

>>723445452
isnt that just mars matrix

anyone here got Cho Ren Sha to run on retroarch? I have audio issues

>>723446674
>anyone here got Cho Ren Sha to run on retroarch
why would you do that

>>723446674
Why would you need it on RetroArch, there's a PC version
>the framerate is inaccurate
Special K or Nvidia settings

>>723446749
no level select/save state

As a shitter who hasn't 1cc'd any shmup in his life (though I did get close a couple times on Darius Gaiden), I much prefer Batrider, 1944 Loop Master, and Dimahoo to Garegga. Is there a reason people don't talk about their other shmups? I get that Kingdom Grand Prix is more of a gimmick, but are Brave Blade, Sorcer Striker & Terra Diver just unremarkable? I suppose I should just play the myself at some point.

Crazy how hard they pivoted away from shmups once they rebranded to 8ing; I still love their output after that but as far as I'm aware the only thing even remotely shmup-like they did after that was that side mode for Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

>>723447681
>Batrider
People definitely hold this in high regard, close second to Garegga
>Dimahoo, Terra Diver, Loop Master
People like these too
>Sorcer Striker
Less talked about but still seems like people like it a decent amount
>Brave Blade
I've heard less good things about this one

The reason Garegga is remarkable is its rank system and difficulty which was never really replicated in later games. In Batrider there's still rank but it can be disregarded a lot more easily.

>>723440521
Oh shit, I have been playing on mame just for zakk's patch. There was an analogue in that fbn zip the whole time? Does it let you change fire rates the same way?

>>723437216
>Playing Gayne
Didn't beat the game

>>723448919
Yes it does, it's the same rom I believe

>>723439525
(You)

Bomb

>>723452705
I'll never understand anyone who mains Shotia. Leinyan and Exy have much better lasers. You know, the thing you're holding down for 90% of the time in boss fights?

>>723452840
Shotia has more bombs which can be useful for beginners, especially those who are used to bomb-spamming through the last few stages of DoDonPachi

No, I just keep playing gradius 3

Post music you shits, I don't play this genre. But I have been listening to this soundtrack for a week thanks to that other thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VotCH_InGbM

Oblagatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbts2qTrbAg

>>723453671
You bet.
Samidare - East of Eden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIuJWvf9eaY
Psyvariar 2 - Last Boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4XBv3rC3lY
G-Darius - Adam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zLT6zkxsXM
Gradius V - Impregnable Fortress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6239T2cfs
Ibara - Endress Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMTpJo1WEJs
Espgaluda - Huge Battleship Elinies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zds074t6lf0
Perfect Cherry Blossom - Withered Leaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVAXY5KoQ8
Ketsui - No Remorse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3TZ9t44nIo
Zero Wing - Natols
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_TFrpU7GI
M.U.S.H.A. - Fullmetal Fighter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MIqgHu3tsg
Thunder Force IV - Metal Squad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw
Gradius Galaxies - Crystals and Thunderstorms Stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFc8SViK-IY
Border Down - Fleet Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqDuVPYAzlk

>>723453671
A lot of shmups are composed by Manabu Namiki, who did the Battle Garegga soundtrack
The Ketsui OST is probably my second favorite from him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJtn8U4n21c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vqEAuk2v_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0jhujOdrdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBecfKLoLUQ

>>723422349 (OP)
>>723453671
>>723454337
Actually, all three of the games in the OP were composed by him
What a guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuApOJSP9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=798wg4Y6_AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B67kzPR3Gt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIQj92WAl-Ik

>>723422349 (OP)
>>723453671
>>723454337
Actually, all three of the games in the OP were composed by him
What a guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuApOJSP9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=798wg4Y6_AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B67kzPR3Gtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIQj92WAl-I

>One of the greatest talents in game OSTs has been confined to mostly meme retro arrangements for the past 10+ years
Why is the world unfair

>>723453671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVDqBRi5r0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUW8rajRg8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfQApU42K14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2c_P32NLUI

I like the TLB theme from Like Dreamer. Reminds me of Zatsuza and Mercilessnes, the TLB themes from DFK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsStu7J9Ns

Also the boss theme from Hazelnut Hex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su8kVwGvDlw

>>723454215
>Zero Wing - Natols
Fucking AYBABTU. Back when the internet was still good.

>>723425914
>redpill me on ketsui
the scoring system basically incentivizes you be extremely aggressive and point-blank things, which is also good for survival since you can prevent the screen from flooding with bullets by doing it. So it's very risk/reward-heavy, which Masahiro Sakurai referred to as "Game Essence"

>>723425914
>is it another one that's stuck on the xbox360?
Ketsui Extra debuted as a region-locked game on 360, but made its way to PS3 (region-free) and the performance is identical.
Ketsui Deathtiny was released on PS4 in 2018, featuring the titular "Deathtiny" mode, imo one of the best arrange modes in all of Cave.

>>723422349 (OP)
is DOJ cover supposed to look phallic

I wonder if there's more shmups with spaceships set in space or more with airplanes/helicopters set above the ground on Earth

>>723422349 (OP)
Nobody in this thread has cleared Ketsui TLB.

>>723455937
Yourself included.

>>723422349 (OP)
I suck at them but really enjoy their soundtracks

>>723456180
Samidare's and Psyvariar 2's soundtracks. Look it up.

>>723422349 (OP)
Huh for once OP wasn't a faggot, that image is correct

>>723422895
Not autism, anons have plenty of that, what they don't have is skill lmao

>>723447681
I find it crazy how nobody ever talks about Battle Bakraid. The music sucks, but it's a better Garegga without the autistic rank system and bullets you can actually see.

>>723422349 (OP)
Out of these I only liked DOJ enough for a 1cc.
Also did Batrider over Garegga.

>>723452840
Depends on the version.
If it's in BL, you main her to bomb spam without any real consequence. Easier way to get a 1-ALL at least.
If it's the original, you main her to make the game harder because no amount of bombs will fix the massive nerf to your speed when using the laser, which will be all the time against bosses especially.

What was the name of that recent shmup with the angels and body horror?

>>723459498
You mean Angel at Dusk? It's shit.

>>723444098
Less than that actually.
Typically the first half of the stages is noticeably easier so you are only really going to put effort into the latter ones, shaving off a good 10+ minutes of the game unless you really want to optimize score for the entire run. And by the time you reach the latter stages, you are most likely loaded with extends and bombs so you get enough wiggle room if things don't go exactly as practiced.

>>723459498
>>723459559
Found it

>>723458903
>but it's a better Garegga
>without the autistic rank system
choose one

>>723422349 (OP)
The new DOJ cover made by M2 looks way better than this one gramps

anyone here played crisis force? i never saw it talked about but it's good af

>Thank you very much for your continued support of our products. Sales of the following Steam titles will end on October 31, 2025, due to the expiration of the license agreement:

>STRIKERS 1945
>STRIKERS 1945 II
>STRIKERS 1945 III
>GUNBIRD
>GUNBIRD 2
>GUNBARICH
>Samurai Aces
>Samurai Aces Episode II: TENGAI
>Samurai Aces Episode III: SENGOKU CANNON
>SOL DIVIDE
>Dragon Blaze
>ZERO GUNNER 2-

Don't you love the digital future?

Do you like the way Garegga is balanced

>>723463590
I do, but only because I understood pirates are the good guys.

>>723463590
Those ports suck anyway
1 billion dollars to M2 to make a Psikyo collection

>>723452840
>>723455607
>The ship is my penis
I dont have the pasta.

>>723444434
Yeah so i just spent good 4 hours trying to beat the game in one credit but i kept dying lol
I finished it once to see all the stages, i don't think i'll be able to finish this with one credit, i spend an average of 2 credits from stage 3 and above in each stage.
The bullets are too many and too fast, is there a trick to dodge? i can barely see safe spot in time, i think the bullets also move towards me, so sometimes im stuck i have to use the bombs to get out.

>>723422349 (OP)
Best shmups for someone new to the genre? It's something I've wanted to check out for a while.

>>723466348
4 hours is nothing. Don't try to 1cc immediately, learn the stages either by playing as you are doing now with more credits, or making save states at the spots you find difficult so you can do them over and over again.

>is there a trick to dodge?
> i think the bullets also move towards me
For aimed bullets, the best strategy is typically luring on one side, do a quick movement to create an opening when you are close enough to the border, and then tap to the other side.

>>723466440
crimzon clover

>>723463590
>CITY CONNECTION
And nothing of value was lost.

>>723468108
Not all of their ports are bad idiot. But it's definitely 50/50 across the board. For example the recent Under Defeat port is them and it's 10/10 port even has your God Mark stamp of approval

>>723468247
>it's definitely 50/50
That's way too fucking generous.
>your God Mark
Don't care about your boogeyman.

>>723468398
Mark is LITERALLY your God you faggot. You 4chan niggers suddenly begin worshipping him out of nowhere LMAO. He is YOUR GOD loser

>>723468470
I literally could not care less about your delusions nor what the rest of 4chin niggers think. Doesn't change the fact that pretty much all CC ports, admittedly with some rare exceptions, are shit.

>>723468745
But you DO care dumb nigger, you keep replying because Mark is YOUR GOD lmao

eat that Mark dick boy

Which one has the coolest modern jet fighters? For me, its Strikers 3

>>723469132
is it Mark approved though?

>>723468960
Seek help you schizo, this kind of hyperfixation does not seem healthy.

>>723424991
This but unironically. Correct and based.

>>723422349 (OP)
I fucking hate shumps, so no.

>>723469286
Nigger... YOU. LITERALLY. WORSHIP. MARK. You niggers dedicate your like to that guy. Even the Ninja Gaiden threads have begun to worship him. Why the sudden change? Why are you pretending to not be one of his worshippers all of a sudden? Mark is your GOD and there are no other GODS before Mark. This entire thread is a Mark utopia

Who the fuck is mark?

>>723470063
your GOD

>>723449393
Hmm, holding start and B together isn't changing my fire rate like it does in mame. Is there something I'm not getting here?

>>723470080
Ok but who is he actually. Shump game director? Whats his full name? I like looking up influential devs.

>>723472331
Mark is the GOD is the entire realm, he is the one we shumpfags worship. Lick the ground he walks apon. I name every shmupfag helds as the TRUE GOD. Thise of /v/ shump and action game threads kneel before his presence as it is an honor

Why does shill mark now?

>>723472850
That really doesnt help anon. Im going to just assume you are posting schizobabble now.

>>723474436
nta but it's a wannabe eceleb youtuber who talks about arcade games and shmups, among other things. You feel free to ignore the schizo.

What clear are (You) working on right now?

>>723475984
I accidentally got a no death run of pic rel on max difficulty. Ironically enough not too long after doing it in the arcade game as well.

>>723422349 (OP)
>no zeroranger
into the trash it goes

Thread has gone to shit now. Let it die.

I like Touhou as games
It's a shame you can't talk about them as just a normal shmup.

>>723477005
Just don't go to the dedicated threads, they are full of ritualposting schizos.

>>723477187
That's what I mean, yes

>>723472850
Mark "mods will fix it" MSX
Mark "the girl chapters are good" MSX
Mark "downloaded a save file" MSX
Mark "doesn't know how to guard buffer" MSX
Mark "I consider myself pretty good at these while struggling on Warrior" MSX
Mark "Ninja Gaiden 2 is the Blade Runner of video games" MSX
Mark "I've spent hundreds of hours on these games, still doesn't know how to play the game" MSX

>>723477187
>they are full of ritualposting schizos.
But so are these threads. Like you can see the thread becomes nothing but a massive wall of shitty posts right at this moment here onwards >>723452705

>>723477341
That's just a bump, not a ritualpost

>>723477431
Almost everything underneath it is ritual posting and desperate manipulative and leading questions

>>723477582
Sounds like your standards are too "high" for a random /v/ thread.

>>723477729
This is unironically a lot worse than a touhou thread at the moment

>>723477809
How?

>>723477809
Cool, then fuck off back to those already.
Funny that you complain about "manipulative and leading questions" when you clearly just wanted to concern troll.

>>723477889
Because it's unfunny shitposting. At least the shitposting in touhou threads is funny. I don't want to see someone spam about "mark" a billion times and after the 4th person in a row pretends to be a beginner and ask what games to play in the very same thread it gets a bit old. And then it just becomes some dumbass third worlder asking boring questions like "what is your favorite X", "what did you think about Y" like some annoying and lonely woman.

>>723478152
My guy, first off, the very OP is a ritual post. He switched from using his regular DOJ image to the current image used for OP. This entire thread has and will always be a shit post no matter how many times you make it.

The last time I can even remember when everyone stop ritualposting for one second to celebrate something was the announcement of SDOJ coming to Switch.

These threads are the reason why Mark being shilled on /v/ started about a year ago and is constantly growing because he branched out to making videos about action games.

And the icing on the cake, back in 2022 I started playing Shmup again, I found a /vg/ thread just for talking about Shmups and thought "holy shit a place to talk about Shumps!?!?! Oh man I bet its gonna be comfy kino /v/ like pre-20-teens!" Only to be met with the same 5 - 10 schizos shitposting and arguing with themselves about the same thing over and over.

I never take these threads seriously so I suggest you start Mark posting about your God Mark

>>723478947
>bumps the thread anyways
People like you ought to be permanently banned.

>>723478947
>casually admits joining threads he hates for 3 years straight
You are the most mentally ill of all these schizos.

>>723478947
Why would you celebrate a laggy port on shittendo's handheld toaster? You should curse them every day for not porting everything to PC.

>>723480417
Because SDOJ has very sparse availability.
It was only ever ported to X360 and Exa before, and mame dropped official support for it.

>>723477005
>It's a shame you can't talk about them as just a normal shmup.
You can, they're just not that good as normal shmups.

>>723422349 (OP)
Are flippers Shmups?

>>723481975
LoLK is better than garegga

>>723463590
>not heavily discounting those games before they get pulled
That's gay as fuck.

>>723482250
They are free with a very minimal amount of tech literacy.

>>723482201
LoLK is shit, point device was a mistake. No I don't care that it's optional.

>>723482346
non-player response

>>723482312
I don't want actually want any of those, I just think that's retarded.

>>723482795
Sengoku Blade is pretty good.
Sol Divide is also interesting but not exactly a shmup.

Bump

>>723436273
>Raptor
>Tyrian
>"worthless dogshit"
You are a disgrace and a subhuman. Ending yourself would be the best action you could choose.

>>723482201
No Touhou game comes close to Garegga, not even GFW

>>723484623
>>723484963
Excellent posts, do glad you kept the thread alive for this

>>723485170
It's been a pleasure indeed.

>>723485170
Thanks, I will do glad and keep the thread alive

>>723484963
To be honest, the only positive aspect of Tyrian is its visual presentation. The enemies, bosses and the backgrounds are pretty nice and detailed. It's a shame that the entire game was made by someone who has never played arcade shmup once, this results in an unbalanced game that lacks testing when it comes to adding or upgrading parts to your ship, where you can make the game much easier and more boring without much effort. Not to mention that most of the stages overstay their welcome and every campaign is a slog to play.

Go play MarsMatrix

>>723430819
This is the perfect game for score fags, sadly i'm not one of them... Pretty cool artstyle from art and in-game tho and great music.

>>723459559
>It's shit.
Why?

Bomb?

>>723422349 (OP)
Reminder all psikyo shooters are leaving stream at the end of this month

>>723429270
>he likes lard whales

>>723426696
Touhou 11

>>723422349 (OP)
I've beaten Daioujou (both black and white label) and Ketsui.
Only 1-ALL though.

What is it that decides whether the score things are yellow or blue in Mushihimesama Futari Maniac? I think it has to do with whether you're using focus shot or not, but it doesn't seem consistent.

>>723422349 (OP)
nah

>>723493007
meter

>>723495270
Kusoge

>>723487349
It's a shmup for people who don't like shmups.
There is zero difficulty. All you have to do to progress is grind and it takes forever.
There are arcade stages but they're a complete disappointment. Strong spammable bullet cancelling subweapons make it a walk in the park.

>>723426834
This game is getting removed from Steam in a couple weeks

>>723498780
It's still forever up in rom sites and other places.

>>723496150
you dont need to sign your posts

>>723498780
That's why I've got the pcb my nigger

>look up cho aniki ps1 because its the gachimuchi blueprint
>get 3 stages in and quit because im fed up with retarded hitboxes
>look up a full clear
>its 1 hour long
Is cho aniki a kusoge or extremely high effort kamige? Its really riding that line

>>723499578
>tell me what to think /v/

>>723463590
>Didn't buy Dragon Blaze on the last sale because I wasn't interested enough
FUCK

I'm playing Ikaruga for the first time
I unlocked level 3 yesterday :)

>>723500415
>game you're not interested in is pulled from Steam
What's the problem again?

>>723500635
I had the game on my wishlist for a while now, but I didn't feel like spending too much money, got like 7$ worth of games on the last sale, even though the game was on sale I didn't get it because my line of though was "there's always another sale"

>>723500991
So you're not interested in it. If you were, you would've bought and played it or played it on MAME.
Fomo now is unnecessary. If they do another sale and you buy it, would you play it? The answer is no.

>>723468398
>>723468470
NTA but mark is god

>>723466440
Eschatos
Touhou 7

>>723463590
>Steam
Only Gay retards pay for PC games. Hows the PlayStation versions?

>>723498343
What about the Final Extinction difficulty?

>>723504950
Looks like I haven't unlocked that. But that's another reason why the game is trash. You need to grind shit that you don't want to do to unlock what you want to play. And the game doesn't even tell you there is something to unlock.

>>723500991
Play on MAME/FBNeo nigga. There's no need to pay for shitty ports

>>723422349 (OP)
Saidaioujo mogs daioujo, contrarian seethers cant cope over the fact

>>723507682
I think lack of accessibility on modern platforms until the recent Switch port + insanely high difficulty + anime bullshit made it less popular than DOJ overall. DOJ kinda has a timeless aesthetic. It's tastefully anime not otaku anime. DFK is kinda inbetween.

>>723422349 (OP)
Those aren't the holy trinity.

Metal Slug X, 3 and Double X are the holy trinity of shoot em ups

>>723507682
SDOJ looks awful, that alone is a good reason not to bother with it.

>>723508074
Those are run n guns and the real trinity of those is Metal Slug 3, Alien Soldier, and either Sunset Riders or Contra Hard Corps

what controllers/arcade sticks do you guys use when you're playing STGs?

Leaving you with my last bomb in stock

>>723508674
5€ rubber dome keyboard.

>>723507682
It looks fun. Unfortunately I can't play it though.

>27 hour old thread
>im the only person who's posted even a single second of gameplay
crazy

>>723508674
8bitdo m30 2.4g (the white one)

anything else (except a stick with a semitsu ls32 joystick) is trash

>>723508674
Mayflash F300 modded with a Seimitsu LS-32

>>723513747
Post clears

>>723513396
Let me help
https://streamable.com/hfzokc

>>723513824
i could copy paste my list but i dont wanna people find my shmups forum name

basically over 40 clears, and my most proud one is ofc DDP DOJ 2ALL (did it with the M30)

>>723513975
If you're not gunna post gameplay what's the point of using the thread

>>723514234
where the fuck does it say in the OP anything about posting gameplay? are you autistic?

>>723514309
I don't care about theoretical clears and dancing around actually posting about video games. That's mad boring dawg

>>723514391
nigger do you think i record my fucking gameplay?
im not some youtuber/streamer wannabe like you
if you want gameplay just go to fucking youtube

>>723513128
Why? It's playable in mame.

>>723514485
>nigger do you think i record my fucking gameplay
considering it takes zero effort and pretty much every modern shmup port records replays, i hope so. otherwise you have zero clears.

>>723514571
Great dpad and buttons, but it's a small controller and not very ergonomic. Arcade stick is far comfier for long play sessions.

>>723514671
what a sad and zoomer mindset you have

>>723513396
You never actually answered my question
>>723439287

>>723515034
What choice do I have? The general has been posted for so long that its become a gay clique and no one will post outside of the designated thread. Not my fault mods won't do their jobs. I'll just shit up the board every time they delete a general if they're not gunna enforce the rules unbiasedly.

>>723515000
playing 2hus with a stick is a nightmare tho

>>723515246
Nah with an LS-32 you can micrododge fine. The throw length is short enough and it always perfectly returns to neutral.

>>723515189
Oh yeah, lmao, I remember now. You're grand plan to annoy the current mod team out by being a fag. How's that going, btw? Not good, I'd bet, considering you've given up announcing your sages and trying to be reported

>>723515437
i have a ls32 and i still prefer the M30 dpad for 2hus, its much better imo

how does a ls-56 compare to the 32?

>>723514571
i want the Earthion edition so fucking bad

>>723516243
Slightly shorter throw, slightly longer shaft but most notably a stiffer spring.
The truth is, you can mod every lever into every other lever. If you have an LS-32 you can get a stiffer spring, an oversized actuator and a longer shaft and voila, you have an LS-56 for $5.
You can do the same with a JLF.
>muh lever switches
Meme.

Zoomer here. Never played this genre before as it was before my time. What is the consensus best schmup to check out? Youtube videos would help <3

>>723514764
Delicious