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Anonymous No.723432274 [Report] >>723432487 >>723433530 >>723433716 >>723433929 >>723434007 >>723434358 >>723434431 >>723434649 >>723435392 >>723435523 >>723435670 >>723435875 >>723438438 >>723439382 >>723439647 >>723439676 >>723440091 >>723442072 >>723444128 >>723444216
"We have all of those remakes. It's already the superior experience to those games." - Capcom
Why are people saying Capcom is in the wrong?
Anonymous No.723432334 [Report]
borderline twitter thread
Anonymous No.723432487 [Report] >>723433138 >>723439108
>>723432274 (OP)
Because videogames are ART. You will waste your time playing a poorly designed 30 years old clunky tech demo through the alpha version of an unstable open-source PS1 emulator instead of an actual videogame and you will like it.
Anonymous No.723433138 [Report] >>723433431 >>723434302 >>723434626 >>723439108 >>723440057 >>723440558
>>723432487
>Because videogames are ART
They used to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83BhJAZrXrc&t=4s
Anonymous No.723433431 [Report]
>>723433138
Note how there isn't anything actually stating why one is better than the other, you're just meant to like one more because it looks shittier.
Anonymous No.723433530 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
when will they be remaking the good games then?
Anonymous No.723433716 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
>crapcom corpo faggots up their own ass about their shitty re4 action game demakes
not surprised in the least since these stupid niggers think survival horror is bad when it put their rinky dink cum guzzler company on the map.
Anonymous No.723433929 [Report] >>723435428
>>723432274 (OP)
Modern Capcom is actually just as dogshit a company as EA or Ubisoft, the only difference is that their core franchises had such good foundations that it takes longer to destroy them. But they already succeeded at destroying Monster Hunter.
Anonymous No.723433997 [Report]
Meanwhile people got mad that Nomura outright stated the goal of the FF7 remakes was not to replace the originals.
Anonymous No.723434007 [Report] >>723434261 >>723434506
>>723432274 (OP)
You can't really take them at their word since all you're going to get from a business is corporate speak. The Remakes are the games that they're currently selling, so they're going to push the Remakes and downplay the originals. I refuse to believe that anyone at Capcom genuinely believes the Remakes are superior experiences even when they're done well, much less when you look at the RE3 remake that is missing half of the game.
Anonymous No.723434143 [Report]
Fans
>DAE le remakes are better than the originals??
>omg the original games are clunky SHIT
>tank controls are DOGSHIT just play the remake!1
>DAE think Resident Evil 2 remake is...le *perfect* remake?? :D
Capcom:
>hmm i guess nobody likes the old games, the remakes must be better
Fans:
>picrel
Anonymous No.723434261 [Report] >>723434449
>>723434007
The retarded thing about it is that the og's would not sabotage the remake's sales. The remakes would actually make people try the og's out of curiousity. The og games are very respected if you actually see how the franchise is talked about online. Since all the big RE content creators promote the shit out of them to normalfags.
Anonymous No.723434302 [Report] >>723434974 >>723436364 >>723445859
>>723433138
RE4 is a fringe case, the original is leg-shooting press X to awesome slop, the remake plays like an actual game, both deserve to exist.
But fixed camera slop? No way. Remake RE1 next. Cowards.
Anonymous No.723434358 [Report] >>723434445 >>723438292 >>723442982
>>723432274 (OP)
Even the director of the game is embarassed about obnoxious nostalgiafags. just admit you lost and are low IQ.
Anonymous No.723434431 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
Because they are.</Thread>
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Anonymous No.723434445 [Report] >>723434716
>>723434358
Mikami is a retarded one hit wonder faggot.
Anonymous No.723434449 [Report] >>723434525 >>723434567
>>723434261
Acting like the original RE trilogy aren't normalfag games is kind of silly. Maybe you meant the younger generation idk. But they are normalfag games, RE has always been a hit series.
Anonymous No.723434506 [Report] >>723434645 >>723434852 >>723435263 >>723444714
>>723434007
>I refuse to believe that anyone at Capcom genuinely believes the Remakes are superior experiences even when they're done well, much less when you look at the RE3 remake that is missing half of the game.
You realize that the reason why Plant-43s and the alligator almost got cut from RE2 is because the devs on the remake hated them for being unrealistic, and that a core function of that remake was to play more into Leon and Ada's storyline while subtracting Claire from the greater overarching narrative, right?
Anonymous No.723434509 [Report]
Capcom is fucking garbage, I have no idea why it's the most shilled developer on this board.
Anonymous No.723434525 [Report]
>>723434449
Obviously I'm talking about people that were too young to own a PS1
Anonymous No.723434567 [Report]
>>723434449
normalfags during the late 90s and early 2000s are notably different from current normalfags
Anonymous No.723434626 [Report]
>>723433138
The only soulless was new RE4
Anonymous No.723434645 [Report]
>>723434506
>those things are unrealistic
>but G, Lickers and Mr. X are realistic
I don't get these retarded nu-RE devs
Anonymous No.723434649 [Report] >>723434898 >>723442535
>>723432274 (OP)
This reminds me of Jim Ryan comments on older Gran Turismo games: "They looked ancient," he said. "Why would anybody play this?". For execs videogames are just products, and newer products are considered better, while older ones are seen as outdated or unplayable.
Anonymous No.723434716 [Report] >>723434786
>>723434445
Like you're any better obsessing over garbage games from the 90s.
Anonymous No.723434786 [Report] >>723435193
>>723434716
>liking an older game is obsessing
Anonymous No.723434852 [Report]
>>723434506
They cut the various Hunter's (Gamma, Alpha) from REbirth 3. I'm still irate they cut 40% of the original Biohazard 3's scenario out and didn't bother to patch it in. Instead, they went whole hog into REbirth 4: Leon has a 40 minute interactive gay sex scene with Luis in this version.
Anonymous No.723434898 [Report]
>>723434649
>For execs
Anon this is a sentiment held by gamers in general. Outside of fringe places like this board hardly anyone actually plays games older than 25.
Anonymous No.723434974 [Report]
>>723434302
I was with you until you decided to shit on fixed-camera.
Anonymous No.723435193 [Report]
>>723434786
It is obsessing when you niggers invade every thread about the remakes parroting your dogshit boomer opinion.
Anonymous No.723435263 [Report] >>723438182
>>723434506
I still think that was a lazy excuse to cover the fact that they were also too lazy to make enemies that didn't generic humanoid rigging.
Anonymous No.723435358 [Report] >>723435486 >>723436627 >>723442916 >>723444264
Here's some objective facts.
>"Survival Horror" Era (1996 - 2004)
12 games
1 remake
23.6 million copies sold (6.1 million were from the remake)
>"Action" Era (2005 - 2016)
10 games
0 remakes
61.2 million copies sold
>Current Era (2017 - Now)
5 games
2 remakes
64.2 million copies sold (36.9 million from the remakes)

People wonder why Capcom considers the remakes superior when people have bought remakes, even just the three recent ones, in numbers that are unprecedentedly high for RE.
Did you know that RE1, original, only sold 5.1 million copies? Did you know that REmake sold 4 million in a single digital only release on one console?
Resident Evil 2 has outsold its original counterpart by a magnitude of 3x. Resident Evil 3 has done much the same, in fact achieving more than 3x at time of writing.

These are the games the people want. People do not want fixed camera angles and tank controls, they want modern games with modern production values. If you released RE1-3 today, nobody would buy them- we know that because they did do that on PS5 and GOG. Nobody talks about those releases, they only talk about the remakes.
Anonymous No.723435392 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
Because quality is subjective. Also, the goal of a company is to please shareholders. Objectively, releasing the old versions of these games is a decision that costs almost no money and makes a lot of money. So failing to identify this means failing to please shareholders.
Anonymous No.723435428 [Report] >>723435601
>>723433929
>But they already succeeded at destroying Monster Hunter.
I still want to believe the portable B team can turn things around
Anonymous No.723435486 [Report] >>723435568
>>723435358
Video games in general are more popular now. Established brands, which RE now is, are also more likely to sell a lot. You need to consider factors beyond raw statistics.
Anonymous No.723435523 [Report] >>723435608
>>723432274 (OP)
Apart from REmake 1, the three other remakes are completely new games.
While REmake 1 was made by people that worked on the 1st RE, others...well you see for yourself.
That and altered/removed content and changes to certain characters.
While REmake 2 and 4 are still good games in their own right, they don't have certain charms of the originals + lacking certain places that were present in the originals. Thus those can't be called remakes if they lack content from the originals or they altered something for no reason at all.

REmake 3 however is hot garbage and whoever at Capcom says it's better to the original must've been drunk.
Anonymous No.723435568 [Report] >>723436882
>>723435486
Those factors do not automatically mean a new games will sells THREE TIMES MORE than its prior gen counterpart. The growth RE experienced on the back of these remakes is above and beyond literally anything else you could conceivably compare it to within the industry.
Even after a year, the SH2 Remake has only sold two million- you know where that puts it? After where the original SH2 was at a year after launch.
Anonymous No.723435601 [Report] >>723443012
>>723435428
Rise was a mixed bag, better than World but I’m not really holding my breath they can save this sinking ship.
Anonymous No.723435608 [Report] >>723435668
>>723435523
>While REmake 1 was made by people that worked on the 1st RE, others...well you see for yourself.
About one guy of any real significance from RE1 worked on that game.
Anonymous No.723435668 [Report] >>723435834 >>723436472
>>723435608
Anonymous No.723435670 [Report] >>723435936
>>723432274 (OP)
People should have the option to choose the “inferior” product if they want and are willing to lay for it.
Anonymous No.723435787 [Report]
Didn't GOG say they sold surprisingly well? Imagine if they dropped on Steam.
Anonymous No.723435834 [Report] >>723435950 >>723436384
>>723435668
I'm honestly not sure why you're responding to me with that.
On the off chance that you misunderstood the posts there, they're saying that nobody of any real significance from RE1 worked on REmake.
If that's not what you're saying, then I still don't know why you responded to my post.
Anonymous No.723435875 [Report] >>723439745
>>723432274 (OP)
Because RE4 Remake is objectively inferior to the original.
Anonymous No.723435936 [Report] >>723436053
>>723435670
>People should have the option to choose the “inferior” product if they want and are willing to lay for it.
They had that option for years and nobody took it.
RE1, 2, or 3 all released on the following platforms and miserably flopped
>Dreamcast - 2000
>Gamecube - 2003
>DS - 2006
>PS3 & PSP - 2010
>GOG - 2023
>PS5 - 2025
Anonymous No.723435950 [Report]
>>723435834
Then you are dumber than the zombies if you don't know what I'm reposting with.
Anonymous No.723436053 [Report] >>723436128
>>723435936
It got ported to PS5 this year? Then why didn't they also drop it on Steam?
Anonymous No.723436128 [Report] >>723436228 >>723436935
>>723436053
Because nobody is interested in these games. The PS5 and GOG stuff is other companies going "N-no, these will totally be successful!" and then they never have any significant movement on any of Capcom's charts because nobody gives a shit about these games.
Anonymous No.723436228 [Report] >>723436274
>>723436128
I'd buy them if they came to Steam. So at least I care :)
Anonymous No.723436274 [Report] >>723436468
>>723436228
If they came out on steam, maybe 1000 people would buy them and of those, only about 20 would actually play them for more than an hour. Half that if there's no achievements.
Anonymous No.723436364 [Report] >>723436761
>>723434302
>slop this
>slop that
>slop those
slop my nuts you fucking zoomer
Anonymous No.723436384 [Report]
>>723435834
He's backing you up dumbass and you're attacking him
Anonymous No.723436468 [Report] >>723436520 >>723436859
>>723436274
How expensive would a port really be? Heck, just wrap it into an emulator and clean some shit up. Charge 20 bucks a pop. Done. Konami did it with MGS.
Anonymous No.723436472 [Report] >>723436572
>>723435668
How did that lie that the remake was made by the original team even get started? Anyone could look at the credits and disprove it.
Anonymous No.723436520 [Report] >>723436740
>>723436468
The expense comes later when there's two versions of every game on every storefront.
Anonymous No.723436572 [Report]
>>723436472
Normalfags think Mikami made both games by himself in his basement.
Anonymous No.723436627 [Report]
>>723435358
the remakes are superior because they're better games retard, they could've sold like shit and they would still be superior
Anonymous No.723436740 [Report] >>723436813
>>723436520
The more fans flock in the more people might potentially check in on the og's. Your reasoning is backwards.
Anonymous No.723436761 [Report]
>>723436364
4speak thoughbeit.
Anonymous No.723436813 [Report]
>>723436740
Not how it actually works.
The people getting interested will just get confused when they type in "Resident Evil" and get two games that are both the first game, and then they'll be confused by people liking this series when they play the bad one.
Anonymous No.723436859 [Report]
>>723436468
If even 1% of their monthly sales accidentally bought the original because they were retarded and clicked the wrong listing, that would still lose them more money than they'd stand to gain with a re-release. This is one reason publishers don't want multiple releases on storefronts. They want all traffic straight to the current product page. An additional reason is that the future of video game titles is a "forever title" that receives remaster patches every few years that you pay for over and over but you're not ready for that yet. But this is what the suits want now. You don't have RESIDENT EVIL (1996) and RESIDENT EVIL (2002), just RESIDENT EVIL and every three years you buy the latest visuals patch
Anonymous No.723436882 [Report]
>>723435568
Yeah, because SH didn't have any games for like a decade or something while RE kept making games nearly yearly.
No fucking shit. RE kept building its brand. SH didn't.
Again, learn to look past the raw numbers.
Anonymous No.723436935 [Report] >>723436989
>>723436128
Bought all 3 on GOG bought all 3 on PSN.
Anonymous No.723436989 [Report] >>723437092 >>723437756 >>723442023
>>723436935
My condolences, I hope your masochism for playing shitty games gets treated.
Anonymous No.723437092 [Report]
>>723436989
Actually masterpieces.

I just realized the GOG trilogy pack ($25) and all 3 on PSN ($10 each) is less than the price of 1 new game lol.
Anonymous No.723437728 [Report]
>this crapcum thread again
demakes are shit
crapcum hasn't made a good game in 20 years
Anonymous No.723437756 [Report]
>>723436989
I kinda feel sorry for people who don't play older games, they're missing a lot
Anonymous No.723438182 [Report]
>>723435263
100% this
Anonymous No.723438278 [Report]
It’s not about what version is superior, it’s about the preservation of classics.
Anonymous No.723438292 [Report]
>>723434358
Does he also feel "embarrassed" over how he pushed Iwao out of the project after he spearheaded nearly everything that RE is known for?
Anonymous No.723438438 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
Japanese businessmen become confused and agitated whenever they realize that overseas customers are a different flavor of docile consumer scum than they're used to.
Anonymous No.723439108 [Report]
>>723432487
>>723433138
I agree with the vibe but the pics are super wrong. RE2 remake looks really good at 4K with TAA off. It does have ugly color grading without mods tho
Anonymous No.723439382 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
I agree. Remake4 is better than re4 from 2005, you can't even move while shooting lmao
Anonymous No.723439647 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
capcom thinking the re3 remake is an objective improvement over the original explains every bad idea they've ever had
Anonymous No.723439676 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
Why do Japs have such strange opinions regarding old vidya?
The west loves their remakes but they don't replace the original, if anything you get it for free with the remake.
Anonymous No.723439707 [Report] >>723439821 >>723439889 >>723439921
as long as people can agree that REmake 2 makes the OG RE2 mostly redudant then it's all good
Anonymous No.723439745 [Report]
>>723435875
>Can switch weapons on the fly in Remake 4

Anyone who likes the original RE4 at this point is a retard
Anonymous No.723439821 [Report] >>723440103
>>723439707
How's your A/B scenarios, little zoom zoom?
Anonymous No.723439889 [Report] >>723440021
>>723439707
everything after the RPD is completely changed compared to the original lol
Anonymous No.723439921 [Report] >>723440021
>>723439707
Not even close. Remake 2 tanks after you leave the RPD.
Also, they ruined the police station. Feels waaaay too small.
Anonymous No.723440021 [Report] >>723440068 >>723440103 >>723440248
>>723439921
Everyone said that about the original.
>>723439889
For the better. The sewers were dogshit in the original and the lab was a straight line.
Anonymous No.723440057 [Report]
>>723433138
Agreed
Anonymous No.723440068 [Report]
>>723440021
>Everyone said that about the original.
And it's even worse in the remake
Anonymous No.723440091 [Report] >>723440812
>>723432274 (OP)
They are trying to gaslight the fans into forgetting about the old games.
Now with a sprinkle of shame on top of it.
Anonymous No.723440103 [Report]
>>723440021
>ignoring my post

>>723439821

KWAB

Claire A/Leon B or Leon A/Claire B justify themselves in the original. Demake 2, I can't think of a single reason why somebody should play B in Demake 2.
Anonymous No.723440248 [Report]
>>723440021
>For the better. The sewers were dogshit in the original and the lab was a straight line.
This, it's similiar to how RE4R improved on RE2R, no point in playing the latter nowadays.
Anonymous No.723440558 [Report]
>>723433138
Demakes all such dick and anyone saying otherwise are faggots
Anonymous No.723440706 [Report] >>723441172
I don't play the games anymore. I just masturbate to the idea and image of Mr. X raping and/or having sex with everyone member of the cast. I literally seen it. From Brian Irons to Young Sherry Birkin. It's my only takeaway from this series. I like to imagine RE as the "don't get caught and fucked by the big monster" game. Shoot and kill everything. You lose, your gets fucked. Reload save.
Anonymous No.723440746 [Report] >>723440925 >>723445301 >>723446153
RE4R is the only remake I consider equal to the original. It's the best third person action game I've played in a long time.
Anonymous No.723440812 [Report] >>723441096
>>723440091
good thing i own them and they aren't digital shit so they can't steal them from me
Anonymous No.723440925 [Report] >>723440958
>>723440746
>equal to the original
>censored
>shit redesigns
>fights are worse
>removed content
kill yourself drone
Anonymous No.723440958 [Report] >>723441029
>>723440925
I don't care, the gameplay was fun.
Anonymous No.723441029 [Report] >>723441090
>>723440958
>aim for 10 seconds before the aim is "focused
>good
if you are retarded sure
Anonymous No.723441090 [Report]
>>723441029
Name a better third person action game the came out within the past 5 years. If it wasn't a "Resident Evil" title you would've enjoyed it.
Anonymous No.723441096 [Report]
>>723440812
Thats what the sprinkle of shame is for.
So they can eventually call you a nazi biggot for owning it.
Anonymous No.723441172 [Report]
>>723440706
Based rapechad
Anonymous No.723442023 [Report]
>>723436989
>older games are shit that's why a whole franchise came out of them
Anonymous No.723442072 [Report] >>723442210
>>723432274 (OP)
They just want to make money, stupid.
Anonymous No.723442210 [Report] >>723442558 >>723443021 >>723443272
>>723442072
Why not include the original game when you purchase it like most western devs do?
Anonymous No.723442535 [Report]
>>723434649
I literally had two friends complain that the System Shock 2 remaster wasn't a remake, after they played the SS1 remake. They don't touch "old" looking games. They are the generation growing up.
Anonymous No.723442558 [Report]
>>723442210
I can only think of two remakes that included the original, and one of those was a Japanese game.
Anonymous No.723442916 [Report]
>>723435358
>Nobody talks about those releases
he said, in the thread about those releases.
Anonymous No.723442982 [Report]
>>723434358
well, that explains why he hasn't been able to make a good game in the last 20 fucking years.
he's aged out. brain is old now, just wants pudding.
Anonymous No.723443012 [Report]
>>723435601
Same, I like the portable games and think RiseBreak is great, but seeing the current state of affairs, I not gonna raise my hopes of the next portable title being good too much.
Anonymous No.723443021 [Report]
>>723442210
why bother when you can play the remake
Anonymous No.723443272 [Report]
>>723442210
You only ever see that on "remasters" that are barely an upgrade over the PC's original version.
Anonymous No.723444128 [Report] >>723444415
>>723432274 (OP)
>RE1
The remake is just as antiquated as the original
>RE2
Both good, both worth playing
>RE3
lmao @ Capcom
Anonymous No.723444216 [Report]
>>723432274 (OP)
is it though, the new resident evil looks pretty shit, i'm tired of the "big evil creature chases you through the game" again..
Anonymous No.723444264 [Report]
>>723435358
adjust for inflation
Anonymous No.723444415 [Report] >>723444682 >>723445403
>>723444128
>>RE2
>Both good, both worth playing
name one thing OG does better
Anonymous No.723444682 [Report]
>>723444415
scenario A and B
Anonymous No.723444714 [Report] >>723446038
>>723434506
>Unrealistic
>In Resident evil
Provide a source before opening your faggot mouth schizo nigher
Anonymous No.723445301 [Report]
>>723440746
It’s a confused mess trying to balance OG RE4 arcade gameplay that had fast movement, iframed super attacks and 1-2 hit staggers with RE2 remake’s slow omnidirectional movement, bullet sponge enemies where stagger is used to run past an enemy not set them up for a crowd control move. RE4 remake also has horrible input lag, it’s far worse than the other remakes.
Anonymous No.723445403 [Report] >>723447213
>>723444415
New Claire and Irons are awful, no spiders or moths (for some reason demake 2 slop lovers are okay with less enemy types) A/B scenario that actually changes the game (there's basically no reason to play B scenarion in Demake 2), blue herb makes the game for pussies
Anonymous No.723445859 [Report]
>>723434302
Demake is not even a good game
Anonymous No.723446038 [Report]
>>723444714
Tsuyoshi Kanda: One thing that sticks in my mind, really, is that... when I think back to my memories of Resident Evil 2, the plant monster that appears was really memorable for me. So there I was, I was thinking 'oh, how are we going to handle this one...' but then one day I looked at the planning documents of how we were rethinking the story and it was no longer in it.

I was kind of like... "what's happening here?!" [laughs] I talked to the team and they said well, it's really hard to make a plant monster in a more realistic atmosphere. We just thought we'd skip it. I told them I needed us to make it work, and that led to a back-and-forth on how to do it for about a year - them saying it couldn't be done and me as producer saying I wanted it in there. As for how it turned out in the end... we'll leave it for you to see later! But that's one of the things I really remember butting heads with the team on for quite a while.

Everyone has their own favorite boss, creature or aspect of the game... but not everyone is assigned to that, of course. So if you're assigned to whatever area of the game, you have to deal with all the other members of the team coming to you and saying "well, that's my favourite boss and you should do this" - everyone has their opinions on every piece of the game, and everyone is trying to work to make their opinions heard. One example - we talked about this at E3 because a lot of press asked us directly - is there still a giant aligator in the game? We spoke a few times to that - to how we wanted to keep the cool boss but also we needed to make it a bit more realistic in terms of how weighty a creature like that would be in real life - have it not just jumping around the room like a crazy thing.butting heads with the team on for quite a while.

https://www.vg247.com/resident-evil-2-remake-interview-scariness
Anonymous No.723446153 [Report] >>723446362 >>723449095
>>723440746
as much as I wanted to like it I just couldn't get back into it and I don't know why, I got though the mercenaries but nothing in the Remake makes me want to come back like the OG does
Anonymous No.723446362 [Report] >>723447497
>>723446153
Unironic nostalgia goggles. Don't be in denial either, as nostalgia is good enough reason to replay any game.
Anonymous No.723447213 [Report]
>>723445403
I don’t think it’s okay. Remake 2 should have had the spiders in the sewers and moved the cancerous g adults to an expanded wing of the lab with the g virus. The last lab wing being a corridor with a boss arena is stupid as hell
Anonymous No.723447497 [Report]
>>723446362
that could be the reason yeah, though I also don't really reply the OG as much mostly because i've played through it 1000 times already..
Anonymous No.723449095 [Report]
>>723446153
I'm a RE4R defender and I can admit that its mercenaries mode feels so off to me.
Anonymous No.723449757 [Report] >>723450668
Gamers have such low standards, which is why remakes of games are seen as better than the original. This is something you never see in film.
Anonymous No.723450668 [Report] >>723450790
>>723449757
Thats because most videogame fans have never even played the originals to know the difference
Anonymous No.723450790 [Report]
>>723450668
They're also too dumb to pirate or setup an emulator. And they're deathly afraid of piracy, they seriously think piracy is on the same level as murder.