Thread 723474079

Is it any good?

>>723474079 (OP)
I liked it. It has flaws.
I am a WH casual, but as far as I could tell it's not woke

>>723474079 (OP)
It is turn-based, so the answer is no.

>>723474381
RTWP lost

I feel like Owlcat aren't great encounter designers or writers and that's their biggest issue, their games also lack momentum compared to some of the better CRPGs/Tactical RPGs/Turn-based Strategy games out there.
I enjoyed the tutorial of RT but after it the game lost more and more of me, also while the wh lorefags probably adore the wordiness and loredump shit but boy did the writing shift from relatively smooth and flavorful to straight up everyone talking five times more saying the most inane irrelevant shit instead of more concise and interesting writing of Wasteland, BG, FF Tactics, etc. shit's just lacking.
I dropped it after ~20 hours personally.

>>723474079 (OP)
Yes. I like warhammer so I really enjoyed the atmosphere and setting. The system also clicked for me for some reason and I really enjoyed that. Probably the most fun I've had in terms of combat in a CRPG. It felt much less tedious compared to WOTR.If you're not into warhammer I'd have to warn you that there's a lot of reading and a lot of warhammer stuff that's thrown at you. That might be fun for you or it might not depending on your personality.

>>723474079 (OP)
nah
play wrath of the righteous instead

>>723474779
>troon of the righteous

>>723474079 (OP)
>Owlslop
no

>>723474079 (OP)
Yes

If you like 40k you can easily look over the flaws

!!IMPORTANT!!
Buy with both dlcs as they are fun - especially void shadows.

It's fun, is generally faithful enough to the core setting while still allowing for player agency and well written enough that you'll enjoy the story decently.

>>723474079 (OP)
yes
It's a well-made 40K CRPG

>>723474079 (OP)
>is boring turn-slop any good?

rpg means it's cringe

>DLC IV - Processional of the Damned
>Coming: July - September 2026

Bruh.

>>723474079 (OP)
I'll tell you in a few years when they are finally done releasing DLC

>>723474079 (OP)
It's great. It's not mindless action slop and it's not spess mareen focused, which is the only way 40k can be good. Be sure to get the first DLC. Second one is okay too so you might as well get it as well.

I would recommend playing WOTR first and wait until Rogue Trader releases all its expansions, although RT is a more polished product

>>723475630
what about Kingmaker?

it's pretty okay. apparently they're nerfing that one giga-power that sets every enemy on the field ignited/poisoned/bleeding which means all fights will be longer/sloggier compared to pressing my big fat "THE ROGUE TRADER WINS" button
maybe when their Season 2 is completed i'll play it again to check out whatever those new 2 DLCs. that won't be until way later next year, though

>>723475793
Its been a long time since I played it but it was pretty forgettable compared to wrath. All I remember is absolute dogshit OCs forced on you because of the early access backers and the fucking fae being niggers. Companions are alright but I far prefer the companions in WOTR, and its power fantasy mechanic outshines becoming a king in Kingmaker

>>723474079 (OP)
It’s my first 40k game and I liked it. Gameplay and narrative is good. The only owlcat game I managed to finish

When is the patch coming, the hotfix said it as if it was something they'd already mentioned but it's the first I've heard of it

>>723474079 (OP)
Yes
Cassia best girl

>>723476407
Vile mutant.

>>723476407
Cassia would have been better with a hime cut

fite me

>>723474079 (OP)
Yes.

>>723476664
It'd get in the way of her third eye

>>723476952
Slightly modify it by moving bangs to the side or giving her a circlet that protects the eye

>>723475630
>WOTR first
Not always a good idea. I couldn't stand WOTR. I hated the setting, I hated how many trashmobs I had to go through, I didn't enjoy the pathfinder system. The only positive thing I can say is that I like the idea of mythic paths but I never lasted long enough to actually enjoy it. On the other hand, I loved Rogue Trader. It was tedious towards the later acts as well but the combat was much more fun. The setting, story, and characters were also much more to my taste.

>>723476951
I was playing grim darkness a while back, then I hit a soft lock bug that fucked up the entire run. Not touching that shit for another 2-3 years

>>723477331
It took me 3 attempts and the first 2 ended with fucking drukhari space battles.

I played RT on release until chapter 4. Now I'm just waiting for all DLCs before a proper replay.

>>723475793
Kingmaker is fine, but the Kingdom Management can be very intrusive and just not fun. WOTR is much better.

>>723474079 (OP)
Is it pozzed like their pathfinder games?

>>723477880
No, outside of the obligatory bisexual romances

>>723477880
you cannot hold hands with the bolter nun

>>723475242
>>723474457

*mind breaks you*

I started playing it a couple of days ago. Within the first two hours of the game, after I take command of the ship, I can use my authority to bang one of my negress bodyguards, which is exactly the kind of option I would want, but not expect, to be included in an RPG. These Russian writers seem pretty based so far.

>>723474079 (OP)
There are so many games to play, so why chose turn-fag slop?

If you want to play an Owlkeks game, then get Wrath of the Righteous instead. It is only 20 bucks and a substantially better game (despite the woke shit).

>>723478852
Playing co-op with my friend and he sentenced her to death by Kibellah at the tribunal after Act 3 then fed her spirit stone to the heretic altar, I kind of felt bad but I hear she leaves on the heretical path anyways

>>723474381
the battle is over bro
RTWHRT lost

>>723478852
I handed her to the Inquisition as soon as we got off the planet where I found her.

>>723474079 (OP)
>start campaign as a member of the adeptus ministorum
>Indira having a schizo episode and summons ghosts
>"Sister Argenta, do your duty"
>BAM
yes

>>723478852
>sacrifices ur spirit stone

>>723479030
>can fuck this abomination
>"oh wow based"

>>723480229
You can also beat her half to death with a mace while she has no choice but to stand there and take it

guys i did it i actually fixed Maive

>>723480351
She's still gonna end up as chaos spawn bro

I can't wait for the rebalance patch to be useless and for the combat to still be broken

>>723474079 (OP)
It's very good. However remember that it is an Owlcat game do be prepared for their usual pitfalls

>you cannot romance best girl
>girls you can romance are used goods whores
>sudden difficulty spikes
>poor class balance
>difficult optional fights with dogshit rewards

>>723481767
>>you cannot romance best girl
Cassia is romanceable though?
>>girls you can romance are used goods whores
And she's also a virgin?

>>723481767
Romance is a meme. It could've been fun to have a corruption route for Argenta where you turn her away from her faith and into your cocksleeve but I don't expect games to conform to my fetishes.

>>723481767
Literally only Jae is a whore Argentacuck, stop lying just because you're bitter.

>>723474079 (OP)
no.
t. 300 hours in the game

>>723474079 (OP)
I played it on release. It was heavily bugged but good. At one point I got locked on a planet and couldn't progress the main quest or do anything. They fixed in after a week, so I continued my playthrough. Eventually the first DLC released and as I came for my second playthrough I was amazed how much stuff got fixed. Also the DLC was great and really seamlessly added to the game. Came back for my third playthrough when the second DLC came out. It was ok, good but not great. Possibly because the first DLC set the bar so high. The game is already good and fun and will probably will get even better. People often say that you need to wait for Owlcat's games to have all the stuff in to fully enjoy it and not waste time before. I think it's amazing replaying it after every DLC and seeing how the game grows.

Also if you're into 40k, and I mean the real gritty 40k, not the constant marine-wank and primarch-wankm it's the best title out there.

>>723474079 (OP)
Yeah, I got a couple hundred hours out of it.

>>723482578
forgot to add pic related

>>723474079 (OP)
It's all combat and not much else. However, the combat is nonsensical and retarded. You'd think it's some tactical RPG, and in the act 1 it really feels like a tactical RPG, but soon after that it evolves into
>Kill the entire encounter on turn 0 using various synergies enabling you to do that
>OR
>It kills you on turn 1
You will spend most of the game repeating the same action sequences and watching how your party alpha strikes everyone on screen.

The depiction of 40k setting is one of the best ever though, if you want that part, it's still wroth playing.

I still think that Comorragh is neat and doesn't overstay it's welcome unlike Alushinyrra which is one of the reasons I dread replaying WOTR

>>723483245
>doesn't overstay it's welcome
Are you kidding? It takes up an entire act and completely kills the momentum of the story, it's t hanks to Cumrag that act 4 is so garbage
Alushinyrra is not only more interesting but it actually advances the plot forward, Commorragh sucks

No reason to play it yet when they add extensive changes to it with every dlc. The endgame is adjust still barren.

>>723483354
it's thanks to Owlcat that Act IV is so garbage
they really didn't know what the fuck to do afterwards so we only have Quetza Temer and Eufrates II (special mention to Argenta's quest which just baffled me with how little content it had)

>>723483358
and they also completely break the game with how many levels, alignment points and abilities you get, making the already not so difficult encounters trivial

>>723483663
All the effort that went into the arena simulator that is act 3 could have gone to act 4

Its too easy. Most fights, even bosses don't even get a turn. They even added invurnability to DLC bosses.

>>723474079 (OP)
>reddit seethed at the brown companions being at the bottom of a popularity poll
always makes me laugh

>>723484217
got any pics?

>>723484241
https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1margm6/like_i_get_some_characters_arent_gonna_be_aslike/

>be 15h into the game
>spend 15 minutes every level-up trying carefully to min-max my characters
>patch comes out and resets all my characters builds
>have to rebuild all my party from scratch

Haven't opened the game since. It's pretty good though, if a bit easy.

>>723474079 (OP)
Yeah it's good even if the RPG system is so easily broken, at least in this CRPG format.

>>723478852
Will the kroot deliver in DH?

>>723485595
Kroot are "asexual" in that they do not possess reproductive organs, so I guess it depends on what you mean

>people are still complaining that you can't fuck Argenta, ignoring that sisters are celibate
People should complain about how shit her companion quest is instead, act 1 and 2 keep building it up, and it ends in her just going to the spaceship, one normal fight against some pirates and then it's done.

>>723486189
FOR THE LAST TIME SISTERS ARE NOT CELIBATE!

>>723486189
>about how shit her companion quest is instead
They don't care about Argenta herself, they just want to fuck a SoB
same reason why retards immediately started repeating that the SoB in DH was going to be a companion even though her portrait makes it very clear that she won't be one

>>723486250
They're nuns, bro.

>>723486493
Lord, just shut the hell up, secondary.
Celibacy is not a requirement for the SoB.

>>723485595
>asexual
>outcast
>xenos
She's half way there already! Only thing she's missing is being a cunt and betraying you

>>723486493
go read a book you fucking tourist nigger.

you either stoke Argenta's righteous attitudes or you try to humble her and YOU DONE GOOFED NOW SHE'S A SUICIDAL REPENTIA

>>723474079 (OP)
I enjoyed it. Now waiting for all DLCs to be out to replay it.

>>723474079 (OP)
if you played previous owlcat games is better than wotr but worse than kingmaker

>>723489182
To be fair the Sisters Repentia don't wear clothes so you win either way

>>723474079 (OP)
Genuinely say it's the best game Owlcats has ever made. Not that that's saying much.

>>723489340
>worse than kingmaker
x doubt

>>723474079 (OP)
For whatever reason they had to rush and release a barely functional build very early (realistically, maybe a whole year early) and thus the latter acts ended up hardly developed. They will never address this and the expansion they're *very* slowly making (because they already moved on to their next games) are basically a band-aid as they don't actually improve the lackluster later base game, only add to it to a degree. Keep this in mind. Other than that, I had fun with it. Also, they're overhauling the game balance, so it's STILL not the time to play it yet. Just put a reminder for 2027 or so lmao.

>>723474079 (OP)
Ive played 3 times, always drop it at chapter 4. First 2 chapters are great. I like to think thats the fame and everything after coronation is a meh epilogue. Once the 4th dlc happrns maybe I'll finally beat it.
I miss pathfinder.

>>723489608
He's not wrong. Mechanical improvements aside, Kingmaker is a pretty good module and the best they've worked with.

>>723484374
Why are they like this?

>>723486189
That cant be right? I was actually pumped for this lost world ancient temple stuff.

>>723474079 (OP)
eh.
Act 4 and 5 shit suck donkey shit despite the DLC and patches. better than release, but still shit

>>723490946
And 3 is pretty meh.

>>723474079 (OP)
I got bored after about the time I met the pointy-eared sniper. The beginning was very intense, but then everything spread like diarrhea in the sun, and the canvases of text became less and less meaningful.

>>723481767
I have only played Kingmaker, where they made best girl(s) DLC. Why would they not continue with this business model?

>>723492227
I have no idea what you are talking about. I remember the DLC being all about the baron and the boys.

>>723492227
Because starting with WotR best girl is in the base game

I really enjoyed it and it was my first foray into Warhammer anything.

Get the DLC, Kibellah wrecks entire maps and so does Argenta+Cassia combo by the middle of the game.

>>723492729
What the fuck was Cephal Lorentus. He just kind of disappears and is never heard from again.

>>723474079 (OP)
Fuck yes. I want more. I love owlcat games.

>>723492990
Not much out there thats similar. I might resort to Obsidian games...

>>723493250
Jokes on you, I finished probably all at least okay crpgs out there, it's only waiting for the next game for me.

good gaem. unlike /v/ I like yrliet and marzipan, but there's no reason to use yrliet by endgame.

also I agree with the anon who said get the DLC. Kibbs solos maps and the Arbites class is a lot of fun if you like melee/shotguns

>>723474710
I felt the same. With the exception of the prologue and dlcs, there weren’t a single enjoyable encounter

>>723489340
WotR is better than Kingmaker though.

>>723493687
kibbles is cool but she didn't mesh with my largely ranged party. I was playing an officer (grand strategist) and I had fishe as a tactician. Argenta was my main damage source. I had wolfman as my kind of tank/dps guy shooting with his bolter and heinrix as also a kind of off/tank who awkwardly ran around shooting stuff and picking people off. And then there's kibbles who is out there by herself hopping around killing stuff. I was playing on core so it worked but I felt annoyed by it

Definitely one of my favorite CRPG's currently. Finished it recently. Looking forward to Dark Heresy too, but there's no rush because I'm currently doing my 5th playthrough of Underrail.

>>723481212
I was hoping Operative rework was coming out this patch but it seems it got pushed back to the next one. I like Owlcat but i'm seriously starting to resent them from all the delay.
That's why I pirate all their games

>>723495473
No wonder they're so slow then. It's solely your fault.

>>723474079 (OP)
It's fine for what it is. It's not a true Rogue Trader RPG experience but that would've been a product Owlcat isn't really skilled in making. Paradox would be a slightly better fit.

>>723493574
Sometimes you find a gem. If you haven't played it yet highly recommend Solasta: Crown of the Magister. Awful graphics and banter though.

>>723474079 (OP)
Unironically the best game ever Assassin girl is a cute.

>>723474079 (OP)
It's the best game Owlcat has ever made so yeah. Less bloated than WotE and more fun overall. Has the advantage of better lore as well since Pathfinder is just shittiet DnD(and modern DnD is already shitty).

>>723496031
>WotE
meant WotR fuck

I wish the feudal planet part of DLC2 was 5x longer. Really enjoyed that segment

>>723474079 (OP)
yes

>>723493734
No, WOTR is by far the worst owlcat game

>>723493734
Hell no.

>>723497879
>>723497942
BG2 is better than BG1
WotR is better than KM