Thread 723517569

Who’s excited for Kiwami 3?

>>723517569 (OP)
>Who’s excited for Kiwami 3?
Secondaries.

#KeepKagawa

>>723517569 (OP)
going to be censored so no

If Mack doesn't come back,
Yakuza 3 remake is wack.

>>723517569 (OP)
Not trying to be a hater but so far I haven't felt like any of the Kiwami games are more enjoyable experiences over the originals yet, the QoL improvements are nice but the tone and feel is completely different and the new story additions mostly didn't make things any better
Really minor dumb nitpick but Kiryu's shirt being different when in Okinawa in this makes me wonder if the current devs are unaware that 3's a big Sonatine reference
I say all this stupid shit, I'm still probably gonna play it though

>>723517569 (OP)
There hasn't been a Kiwami entry that didn't ruin the entire game.
Even Ishin which was a basic port to a new engine had to fuck up somehow with the stupid recastings and the card power ups.

>>723518352
those chasing minigames were not fun.

I hate that with Yakuza 0, the combat finally feels Right. Took years of trying to make it smooth and rewarding, without abusing some gimmick or Tiger Drop. They finally got it.
>let's switch engines and make it feel all fucked up again with wonky physics and floaty moves
Like, fuck me, dude. Why?!

Should I buy 4 remaster before they kiwami it too?

They cut country club golf and I won't stand for it.

I rushed through 3 and I dgaf about the golf shit

>>723521617
mack is revelations where kiryu sees funny stuff that inspires him to create new fighting skills and records it with his camera

Not me
Pozzed lame franchise that forgot the main cast is made of violent amoral criminals

>>723523861
If it isn't atleast like revelations in 5 then fuck em, I hated having to go to the same spot 3 times because how buchered the translation was.

they cut mack because revelations had funny shit like the school girl getting groped by a drunkard (who then gets his ass kicked)
wouldn't surprise me if club asia is probably gone too.

>>723524064
So Kiwami is just neutered Yakuza?

>>723522545
Lost Judgment felt fine

>>723517569 (OP)
I'm excited for Dark Ties, at least.
I hope it's pretty substantial, like at least as big as 7G.
Also, I'm really annoyed that it looks like being able to carry different weapons in your inventory is being phased out from all future games, Kiryu's Ryukyuan style compensating for that.

>>723523870
>forgot
>as is the game ever did
Secondary detected.

>>723517569 (OP)
Probably the only game in the series where a remake would be an objective improvement
>0fag!
3 is literally the only game in the series that is not fun to play, I had no problems with the other games, 3 is just dogshit

>>723524893
>make no sense at all
Bitch detected.

>>723519402
Have they confirmed if you're stuck with the new shirt? If they are treating it like Yakuza Pirates then you can probably dress up kiryu even during the main campaign.

Should I bother with the Judgement games or just buy the Like A Dragon games?

>>723526989
If you're just buying a couple games, you should get the two judgment games. If you want to get into the yakuza story, get those games first.

>>723526989
Judgement: Spinoff but combat is similar to the other games
Like a Dragon: JRPG menus

If you can't stand turn based don't get Like a Dragon cause that's all of the combat

>>723517569 (OP)
>playing a yak without TripleAAA's mods
I can't do it anymore, bros. He makes shit so peak

>>723527096
>>723527449
I'll get the Judgement games then. I'm not a big Yakuza fan but I really enjoyed the combat in the Kiwami games.

>>723526989
The only good games this team has made are Yakuza 1 and 2 (PS2), Yakuza 0 and Judgment (PS4).

>>723527630
>good games
Not with that combat they aren't

>>723523650
Why would you do that? They're not Blizzard and won't remove the old game after they announce the remake (I hope)

>>723518352
RETURN OF THE MACK

>>723527630
good list but you forgot one

>>723527964
5 sucks, brother.

>>723528034
no its good

>>723527964
I can guaranteed you if 5 never happened, we wouldn't have had everything retarded that happened after it.

>>723517569 (OP)
at this point nothing but a new Judgement will convince me to buy full price, and even it I would be skeptical about

Yakuza sale is currently happening on Steam and the only game not discounted is 3, so I hope you got it already because it's never going on sale again thanks to Kiwami 3.

>>723524807
Anyone who is excited for Mine's character assassination is a retard, gay or woman. He's Nagoshi's baby and the current crew proved time and again that they never understood the character. Even the female fanbase only liked his face and completely disregarded who he was in their gay fanfics.
Also the guys in charge are:
Takeuchi - writer of a mobile game for women, majority of whom never played Yakuza. Known for long-winded dialogues that don't say anything of substance and his attempts at overexplaining the implicit things that anyone with IQ over 90 generally understands.
Horii - the guy who turned Majima into an emo bitch and the top merchandise seller.

>>723526989
You shouldn't be buying anything. It's like giving your money to Activision or EA for games of studios that were destroyed by them decades ago. None of the money goes to people who actually made the good older games. After Nagoshi left 2/3 of RGG Studio's staff was changed, it's a revolving door company now.

>>723519402
Yakuza 3 never had Sonatine influence lol, Sonatine didn't invent "Yakuza in Okinawa" idea
Pseudo-hollywood schizo schlock with a touch of political conspiracy (without meaningful political commentary) of Yakuza, is largely inspired by bootleg Kinji Fukasaku V cinema slops

>>723529232
Too late Anon sorry, bought it already

Who has 2 thumbs and not excited for Yakuza 3 Remake? Me!

I thought the scene where Mine takes the assistant call at the rooftop was funny as fuck
I couldn't give two shits about some dude that did nothing in the game until the last chapter.

>>723525284
He's right though, Yakuza is so tame as a crime thriller even the localizers back then had to make Kiryu constantly say FUCK and PISS, and rename the game from Like a Dragon to Yakuza to try to sell the game as "goodfellas of video games" (which didn't work because the core story is still retardedly bombastic)
Yakuza is Tokusatsu with a thin crime thriller skin, it was never about a world of gritty crime and I don't think they were ever trying to be

>>723529232
>Mine's character assassination
You mean how they're turning him into Shadow the Hefgehog? The way they describe him in the trailers, "Unleash the darkness in Mine's heart" and emphasizing how he's not gonna be your normal goody-two-shoes protag in substories. Like i can't be the only one who sees this as the Yakuza equivalent of Shadow Generations, right?

>>723530090
>crime thriller
It's Shenmue in the city, who the fuck said that Yakuza was that?

>>723529232
Nagoshi faggots are retarded, he may have wrote the concept, but his work as producer is mainly marketing, and meddling with stupid financial dealing like signing exclusivity rights to Sony (after his demotion Yakuza 7 and Judgement got released on PC)
Producer is barely a developer unless he has a developer credit outside of being a producer

>>723530208
>Pozzed lame franchise that forgot the main cast is made of violent amoral criminals
read the replies retard

>>723529667
Mine's English scene was funnier.

>>723530503
>violent amoral criminals
So you haven't played a single game?
Kill yourself.

>>723530091
I haven't played Sonic and don't know shit about it, but just look at that fag Horii. Dude looks like he's stuck halfway between being a scene kid from 20 years ago and writing his coming out as a troon announcement.
But I have to give it to RGG, they know their audience, which is currently women. And women are split into two camps: hetero "I can fix him" and fujos. To fix something is to restore it to its original condition. So they need this fantasy that the bad boys used to be little angels who strayed off the path of righteousness due to circumstances and shieet.

>>723530413
In this case it was Yokoyama who said that 3 was the game where Nagoshi suddenly got more involved and took over more writing than usual. In particular he picked Mine and majority of the orphanage stuff. Credits on those games aren't worth a damn. Many JP interviews and even social media posts of various devs reveal that often key contributions come from people credited with entirely different things. Very little info is translated and served in a format convenient for gaijin piggu.

>>723530091
I mean wasn't his backstory him being a poor orphan and Daigo being the first guy he met who he actually respected? No shit the guy is gonna be angry at the world

>>723531903
They already fucked up his backstory in the mobile game. Originally he was already a filthy rich white collar criminal who already went through everything the law-abiding society had to offer, and out of sheer loneliness he said fuck it, might as well go yakuza. He only met Daigo sometime later, after he was established enough in the Nishikiyama family to even be considered for an audience with the chairman.
The mobile game flipped it on its head. In that backstory, Mine was a naive but well meaning guy trying to make some money through startup companies, only to get kicked out of his first successful company. That was the moment he suddenly turned bitter and vengeful. Then by pure chance he saw an assassination attempt against Daigo and he fell in love on the spot. That was the sole reason he desperately wanted to join Tojo and get closer to him. Fucking Little Mermaid looking for a way to walk on land and find her prince.

>>723530990
Why are you telling that to me lmao, I didn't make that comment

>>723530413
He basically 'tard wrangle Yokoyoma, now with he's gone everything went to shit immediately

>>723532573
The only thing I don't really like about that is falling in love with Daigo at that time. Getting fucked over in business deals just adds to the character and something you can headcanon even in his old story

>>723532890
>something you can headcanon even in his old story
Did you even listen to Date's intel? He laid it out. Mine actually did what his adoptive uncle told him to do, he went to a good school and straight to the world of business, where he ruthlessly climbed the ladder, then got serious about insider trading. He repeated the same process with Kanda and started distancing himself from his aniki as soon as possible. And in the finale Mine told Kiryu it wasn't butthurt over getting betrayed or having his trust abused (he couldn't afford to be naive growing up in the first place), he was just jaded because he could never trust anyone or let his guard down.

>>723532826
imo Yakuza changed after Yakuza 5 and Nagoshi was still there for couple of years after 5 so I don't really abide by that assumptious theory
The guy also had the same level of credit for Hatsune Miku, Puyo Puyo, Sonic, Valkyria Chronicles, so I strongly doubt he had time to turd wrangle, or even work on the game outside of shaking hands, and trying to sell the game

>>723533260
not to mention stuff like Kaito files and Gaiden were still good somehow.

>>723517569 (OP)
I don’t care. I want Yakoozer 9 instead. I guess the only reason they made this one is because Mine somehow survived and appears in 9.

>>723533260
It changed after 3, when Nagoshi publicly apologized for the writing (japs hated the political part) and promised to take a step back. This one is something I'm not going to find with a quick search because it was scanned from a printed magazine, I found it on a jap blog before. But anyway, that was the point where he gave more creative control to his studio leads. Yokoyama jumped at the opportunity and delivered some of the most retarded stories to date.
What happened after 5 was that the studio grew too big to manage and many employees started naturally splitting into preferred camps. Right before Judgment came out Nagoshi confirmed that they're internally split into two teams, one under him and one under Yokoyama. Plus flexible employees who didn't have much of a preference and moved between them as needed.
Then it was just a series of Nagoshi's fuckups as Sega's board member combined with him being tired of having a bloated team to manage, he was gradually giving up on this shit, spacing out. I don't think it was ever disclosed when exactly his parents passed away, but their deaths pushed Nagoshi to make Judgment, that's his most personal game which I don't think he'll ever be able to top.
Come to think of it, the pre-production of Yakuza 3 probably happened shortly after he tried to reconcile with his parents, only to find out they're not really there anymore (Alzheimer's).

>>723519593
Ugh, I had been so excited for Ishin finally being localised, until I found out about UE and the recastings. The original 0/Kiwami/Ishin engine still holds up and looks great today. It didn't need it!

>>723534046
Judgment is so fucking overrated here. Its a good game but I just don't it. The mystery was weak

>>723534195
https://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/799/1799976/
That's the Judgment interview if you're interested.
>studio split in two, between Yokoyama and Hosokawa
>the idea existed since 6 and Kiwami were still in production
>Nagoshi has had enough of Kiryu and constant fan service
>credits of 0 aren't worth a damn, game was written by Furuta

>>723534143
Idk about PC but some guys ported over the translation to the PS3 version

>>723517569 (OP)
Me. Only 0, 5, LaD and the first Kurohyou were better than 3.

>>723517569 (OP)
The Mine side story seems cool. I don't really care for whatever the fuck happened to Rikiya.

>>723527614
For what it's worth, Judgment is an extremely solid duology and is pretty much standalone barring the simple fact that it takes place in the same world as Yakuza. At this point, I find it easier to recommend those games than Yakuza because it's just a way more easy-to-digest experience and it feels pretty complete.

>>723517569 (OP)
Where is the hostess manager minigame and which JAV stars will I see in that? No hostess = no buy

>>723536506
you're excited for one of your fav games being ruined?

>>723527964
i hate that baseball cunt so much it's unreal, just seeing him makes me hands hurt remembering his dogshit playstyle.

>>723537462
Shinada is endearing and based DESPITE his abhorrent gameplay though

>>723536971
With Nagoshi out, no more JAV actress, the best they can do is streamer/vtuber/gravure

>>723537462
>>723537518
I don't know what you people are talking about.
Shinada had the second-best fighting style, just behind Kiryu. I loved that heat action where he drags downed enemies across the ground.
The real sin is how they butchered Akiyama's style.

>>723537518
Shinada fucking sucks because he jobs in every fight
If I want to relate to the MC at any time, it would only be through the character's upbringing, how their adult life is going etc. not struggling in a fight
Being able to relate to how hard and easily the MC can be beaten to death in a fight sucks

>>723539338
Talking about Yakuza 3 Kiwami and some shit eating z'er coming in here praising Y5 and now this off topic shit

>>723539770
how is it off topic

>>723525289
>Have they confirmed if you're stuck with the new shirt?
Yes, the OG shirt is paid DLC.

>>723539907
Wonder if Mine's customizable too.

>>723539907
>OG shirt is paid DLC
Straight into the trash

>>723527790
>They're not Blizzard and won't remove the old game after they announce the remake (I hope)
They removed Ishin when Ishin Kiwami was released. The only place it's available now is the PS3 store, you can't get the PS4 version on the modern Playstation storefront at all.

>>723540535
It could be I'm wrong since they haven't confirmed anything but they haven't shown it at all and they're selling "classic" outfits for everyone. The DLC pack itself has Akiyama's suit on it (That's what the red one is) but this is modern RGG so I wouldn't put it past them.

for me its aika

>>723539907
I don't see it in that image

>>723541405
It's on the Steam listing, that was my bad. I guess they did confirm it.