Thread 723563803

>/v/ told me to never ever get a wireless mouse because muh latency muh battery etc
>decide to get one
>latency is not noticeable whatsoever, same thing as wired (even better because this one has a better polling rate)
>battery lasts weeks and it comes with a dock to charge
>super light, cant feel chord drag
Remember to get a wireless peripheral

there are no wireless mmo mice so i do not care

>>>/g/
buy an ad also

>>723563803 (OP)
I just bought a VXE R1 for like 20 bucks off aliexpress. Wanted to try ultralights and wireless for a long time. It works fine, could go 2k polling rate but I didn't wanna buy the stupid reciever.

>>723563803 (OP)
No, wired is better.

>>723563803 (OP)
>/v/ told me to never ever get a wireless mouse
You mean retards told you that.

>>723564054
It's technically impossible to make one isn't it? I could be misremembering but from what I remember with 2.4g (the only option for low latency) you can't have extra buttons. You'd require bluetooth which has latency.

>>723563803 (OP)
>PAW3311 sensor
>300 IPS
>35 Gs
Tell me how much you paid, I need to know now if I should laugh or not

>gamers have such weak muscles even moving a mouse exhausts them
okay that's it thinwrist we're going to the gym and gonna get you some babbyweights.

>>723564429
They'd advise to get wireless.

>>723563803 (OP)
No I told you to get a wired one since its cheaper

>>723564501
$30

I have one of those. There's a tiny wee bug appearing every now and then, it's like any mouse click turns into a bit of a scroll, but apart from that, great. All I have to do to fix it is to reconnect it wirelessly.

Sooo should I get wireless or not. You fags always make shit complicated.

>>723564548
Kek, scammed

I remember that thread few weeks back where op lamented being poor and the one time he buys something nice (was a wireless mouse or gamepad) it's shit.

>>723563803 (OP)
Thank you saar, I will redeem mine.

even back when logitech released their wireless lightspeed mice with ultra low latency, /v/ fags using their 10 year old G502 with peeling rubber and double clicking button would regurgitate their outdated knowledge telling you not to buy wireless

>>723564501
NTA but $24. Goes as low as $14.

>>723564054
>>723564453
Razer Naga v2 is a wireless MMO mouse and it works perfectly great.

>>723564519
>every wireless mouse a retard appears thinking people want to get rid of the chord because they are "tired"
Retard
The problem with the chord is that it pulls with irregular force depending on the angle, the mouse's position etc, which fucks with muscle memory if you are trying to do precise/very light movements like FPS, rhythm games, OSRS, and so on.
If you never used a wireless mouse you can't even have a say about this. You only realize you had it bad once you get rid of the chord and see how easier it is to predict mouse movement across the screen.

>>723564643
I could see it for those prices. But even then, only if it's like 14 bucks. For 30 you can get better, as long as you're prepared to deal with aliexpress's shit

>>723564567
Absolutely, just make sure it can be used in 2.4g mode which is what allows for no latency. Don't fall for a mouse that only has bluetooth. Honestly the one OP posted is a pretty good budget mouse.

>>723564736
>>723564501
I paid 30 to have it shipped next day, it would have been way cheaper in Aliexpress but I get consooomer anxiety when waiting for hardware to arrive

>Attack Shark X8 SE
Does it double click? My Razer mouse has optical switches and even after years they're still fine, but the middle click broke after one week.

>>723564902
ok fair enough I guess

I used several Logitech wireless mice for 7 years, I got the first G Pro in 2018 when it released, had a replacement and bought a newer one after that. Switched back to a wired mouse recently because the cords are so light and imperceptible now, and I just don't want to ever deal with low batteries or think about charging a mouse before I go to bed ever again.

>>723564664
are there any other options? nice to know my alternatives if I'm trying them out

>>723565184
I don't get worrying about batteries in 2025. They last for weeks. When my headset/mouse tell me "hey I'm on low battery" they can still go for several more days. All I have to do is plop them on their deck (or in my USB-C phone charger) and in 2 hours they're good to go for weeks to come. It's never been a problem.

>>723565079
>Attack Shark X8 SE
It can't double click, it has optical switches.

>>723563803 (OP)
>Attack Shark
I am sorry but sir, this is a Wendy's.

>>723565184
I don't remember the last time I had to put a new AA battery in my mouse desu

>get wireless mouse
>just keep it plugged in 24/7 because too lazy to put it on the stupid charging stand

Why the fuck does chink hardware have such cringe names?
>Gamesir
>Attack Shark
The worst part is that it's genuinely good shit, but the naming convention is so bad it leaves a bad taste in the experience. It's like buying ice cream from the brand "Ice Diarrhea".

>>723565406
What's the catch then? It's only $25, so there has to be something bad about it.

>>723563803 (OP)
>/v/ told me to never ever get a wireless mouse because muh latency muh battery etc
that was in 2018 you ultra retard

>>723565593
why can't you put it in the charging stand once per month
like if you were really autistic you could place it there every night before going to sleep and it'd never go below 97% battery
>>723565664
welcome to chinese hardware, their gamepads are also great, I'm looking into whether they can also make good keyboards or not

>>723563803 (OP)
this but with keyboards too

>>723565770
What is the point of a wireless keyboard? It never moves

>>723563803 (OP)
>get earbuds
Lost them
>get wireless mouse
Lost it
>get wireless monitor
Lost it

I'm not falling for this shit ever again.

>>723565882
Have you tried not being a slob?

>>723565882
how did you lose your wireless monitor

>>723563803 (OP)
hey i have this mouse

>>723565882
>monitor
>lost
How? Just put it in your pocket.

anyone bought any mchose mice?

>>723565976
it ahppens...

>>723565306
The batteries degrade over time, the lifespan shortens. In some cases they'll fail. I had to buy replacements twice because they were past the warranty. The average lifespan for me was about 5 days and it took 4 hours to recharge. I don't worry about batteries, though. I'm just not using them anymore, it's one less thing to think about and I still believe wireless mice are great but some wired mice in current year perform better and the cords aren't as much as a burden as they were before.

>>723563803 (OP)
Nobody sane says not to get a wireless mouse, retard. What most people here say (and they're right) is not to get wireless headphones since
1. They sound like shit
2. They have a finite lifespan because of the battery
Meanwhile a HD600 or whatever planar magnetic will last you 20 years. Wireless keyboards are fine though, but I really don't get why anyone'd get that since unlike mice you don't move the keyboard around.

>>723563803 (OP)
that's cool but i plugged my mouse into my computer 5 years ago and have never thought about since

>>723565836
it only does not move if you also dont move

Why are dongles still a thing? Can't devices connect without them like BT?

>>723566271
You're the same type of retard that said electric cars would not work because the battery would be useless in 10 years or something.

Guess what, shit works fine. I still have my first airpods from 2016 and guess what they work for 3 hours instead of 5, it's not a big fucking deal and in the future we will be able to service these things and swap their batteries (you can already do that with high grade stuff)
>The average lifespan for me was about 5 days and it took 4 hours to recharge.
you bought a garbage mouse but even in this situation it just means you have to plop it in the dock overnight every week

>>723566409
BT sucks balls

>>723566409
BT has noticeable delay. 2.4 doesn't.

>>723566478
Wrong, don't strawman me.

>>723566276
getting a decent wireless headset is the best feeling in the world after you spend 2 decades getting your headset cable stuck in the chair

>buy wireless mouse
>it drops signal for a solid 30 seconds randomly for no reason within the first 10 hours of use right out of the box
>return it and never look back
I'm never buying another wireless mouse, it doesn't solve any problems I have and the added convenience of not having a cord isn't worth the potential signal drops to me. For some bizarre reason, this upsets some of you, so that's why I'm posting it. I want you to be mad. You're feeling my anger when I had to waste my time taking this dogshit technology back to the store.

4me, it's the m6

>>723566607
>I'm never buying another wireless mouse, it doesn't solve any problems I have
then why did you buy it retard?

The only wireless thing I bought that wasn't worth it was a keyboard, the razer blackwidow pro 75%. The keyboard is amazing but the wireless last's like a day, if even and that's with all the power saving shit on. It's easier just to keep it plugged in.

>>723566696
Its One of The Strongest Mouse

>>723566923
I fell for the memes. Also it was the only mouse Target had in the form factor I wanted with the mouse buttons I wanted on it. I ended up just going to Best Buy after returning it.

>>723566596
Kek this
I know with the same money I spent in my wireless headset I could have gotten slightly better audio quality, but what is the point if I have to fight the chord every single minute? Either it has a lot of room but my chair slides over it all the time, or it is touching my body which annoys me, or it is tight but I can't even get up without stretching it, etc

>>723566596
Problem is most wireless headsets sound like shit. Audeze Maxwell is decent but as far as objective performance goes, both measurable distortion and frequency response, are still far worse than the average wired headphone at that price range.

>>723563803 (OP)
Wireless is good for mice now unless you're a top 50 worldwide player in a competitive game. Wireless for keyboards is still dumb outside of TV PC setups.

My R1 Pro Max works wonderfully.

>>723567089
Just buy a cable that's the right length. Unless your headphones don't have a removable cable then ngmi. I know the average normalfag doesn't care about audio quality but Razer's wireless headsets are possibly the worst audio products I've ever heard and I've heard quite a few.

>>723566409
BT has massive delay, try playing music rhythm games with bluetooth headphones

>>723564054
G502X?

>>723567098
yeah but if I'm playing my booba mmo, watching a stream at 1080p or playing an fps where I need to know the exact pixel the enemy stepped in, I don't need professional audio.
>both measurable distortion and frequency response
wtf does that even mean? It either sounds good or it doesn't. I got some steelseries arctis nova 7 and I'm pretty happy with them, I'm not a fan of the closed in

>>723567428
by mmo he means 50 buttons on the side and octo-directional scroll wheel

>>723567651
I'm talking about measurements. Most people aren't as autistic about audio quality like me so I get the average person probably doesn't give a shit but you really don't get how much you're missing with the average gaymer headphone. When I first got good audio equipment it was like night and day compared to my old Cloud 2s. If you ever have the chance to visit a store with studio quality headphones, give them a listen and you'll notice that half the details in vidya soundtracks or other stuff are completely lost with gaymer headphones since those are tuned to have as much bass as possible.

>>723566969
kek

>>723563803 (OP)
>listening to /v/
>ever
literally kill your're self

>>723567765
Can you even use that many buttons efficiently?
G502X has 5 extra buttons + left and right scroll.

>>723564054
I have the razer naga and it's wireless, it uses an AA battery so it lasts long and it's replaceable

>>723568169
The only real applications are MMOs, but honestly 3 extra buttons is pretty cool for volume control + play/stop
My new mouse only has 2 extra buttons and I miss play/stop so much bros. I know I could use AHK to make it work but eh.

>>723566596
whats a good wireless set of headphones? I have this problem and I'm fucking sick of it.

>>723568145
I have Sony bluetooth headphones and I always used them plugged in. There is actual, visible lag between the image and the sound in bluetooth.

>>723568390
your issue is using bluetooth

>>723568390
Anon, people that use wireless headphones for gaming are using them with a 2.4g dongle, not bluetooth.

The latency with a 2.4g dongle is unnoticeable (it's like 7ms wired vs 12mg of the 2.4g dongle) and pros use it all the time, so don't even pretend you're too good for it

>>723568472
>>723568507
Dang I guess my headphones are not fancy enough to have those wireless dongles. My mouse and keyboards have them though.

>>723568579
It's not about being fancy, it's about not being meant for gayming. Companies that make headsets for music have no reason to think about 2.4g because latency is irrelevant. You need to look for low latency models.

People love shitting at hardware marketed for gaming, but there is a reason why they exist. A "gaming headset" means you get something tailored for low latency, with consumer-oriented mixing (which is what makes music sound good, as opposed to studio-oriented mixing where it sounds neutral) and a microphone. Retards prefer to go for studio headsets and they end up with a bluetooth, neutral-sounding, micless headphone.

>>723563803 (OP)
There is alot of shit you can talk against wireless products, but wireless mouses are a miracle that are objectively better in every way. It's even gotten to the point wireless has quicker reaction speed than wired

>>723568874
>It's even gotten to the point wireless has quicker reaction speed than wired
I see this argument often but I never see evidence of it, sounds like some sort of urban legend

>>723569141
More like shitposting bait

>>723563803 (OP)
>Buying a modern, good computer mouse

NGMI

https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2025/10/is-your-computer-mouse-eavesdropping-on-you

I rate my mice by how many beer attacks they survive

>>723569365
What the fuck?

>>723569365
>logitech has hundreds of hours of me abusing minorities online
ok

>>723569365
Ok this might be possible in theory but who the fuck would use it against a consumer? Sounds more like something the government should be worrying about, not me

>>723569365
>instead of using AI and new age tech to automate tedious and hard tasks, further streamlining innovation and pushing us towards that trekky UBI techtopia, let's use it to make people even poorer and spy on them so they don't wrongthink

>>723569790
The chinese government will use it against your government, yes.

Your government will be the one using it against you.

>>723569790
https://sites.google.com/view/mic-e-mouse

>High-Performance Optical Sensors in Mice expose a critical vulnerability — one where confidential user speech can be leaked.
>We present an attack vector that capitalizes on acoustic vibrations propagated through the user’s work surface, and we show that existing consumer-grade mice can detect these vibrations.

These niggers said "damn we found a crazy spy/surveillance vulnerability... so anyway, we figured out how to do it right and we put the code up on github so everyone can access it!"

This affecting you is about as likely as a glowie using your wifi to map your movements in real time through walls, but the fact remains that it's not only possible, but simple. Don't forget how Intel chips now has a BIOS level word filter so you can't say nigger online or offline... With the absurd globohomo spying industry, digital ID shit, everything Palantir touches etc. it just makes me so fucking tired of it all

>>723564054
i don't understand how anyone can even use mmo mice
i only have 2 extra buttons and it feels actually painful and counterintuitive to just force your thumb to move instead of being a stabiliser

>>723564054
I've been using the roccat leadr for almost ten years and it's among the best purchased I ever made. I've had to resolder LMB and RMB switches into it twice, and had to replace the paddle, but I'm never letting it go.

>>723570171
mmo mice are gay but dude just use the side of your thumb, you don't need to move it all the way up to hit the button on the center?

>>723570212
do hotswap-sockets exist for mouse switches?

>>723564701
>The problem with the chord is that it pulls with irregular force depending on the angle
I guess that might be a problem if you're some low sens incel snipelord who aims with his whole arm making sweeping movements across his desk. Never been an issue in even the slightest sense for me as an ordinary gamer who just likes to play games. I have a wireless office mouse I take to work so I don't have to use the shitty mice at work, and I literally cannot perceive any difference whatsoever in terms of drag between that and my gaming mouse at home with a feather light fabric cable.

Some retard in a thread last night wanted to talk about how he knows drag is a real issue because his charging cable drags while plugged in. Yeah no shit your heavy ass frictional rubber charging cable drags.

>>723565702
they still tell you this because they haven't left 2018
Meanwhile every fucking mouse these days is wireless because turns out all the negatives about it have been ironed out more than a decade ago

>>723563803 (OP)
99.99999% of the people here don't play at level where input delay from wireless mouse would cause any difference.

>>723563803 (OP)
How the fuck do people use "super lightweight" mice? The feel so fucking disgusting to use compared to mice that actually have weight

>>723563803 (OP)
>latency is not noticeable whatsoever

and this is why you are a normie

>>723563803 (OP)
>Went to visit the mice site to see how bad it is
>Antivirus blocks the site because it could be dangerous
Just saying, you should never install the software for the mice
Plus, I'd wager that a wirless zowie ec2 is a better mouse

>>723570528
How? How is a heavier mouse better at all?

>>723564701
Cable management is a skill

I stocked up on these when they were 15 bucks because nothing beats that shape.
Optical switches, PMW3389 sensor, super flexible cable.

>>723570331
Yes, but Asus has a patent on them.

>>723570528
Because it is objectively superior for gaming?

Weighted mouses were an old gimmick for studio use. Mostly artists that for some reason used their mouse to draw (almost no one does this nowadays). Because gamers are retarded and typically think studio quality = consumer quality, they bought into this. Even Logitech released the g502 which came with additional weights for the mouse.

The gimmick wasn't successful even among its target audience (the artists), but it's impressive to see that in 2025 there's still /v/tards who swear by it.

>>723570634
you're not perceiving 0.3ms of latency lil bro

>>723570665
By actually having weight to it instead of just feeling like a fucking piece of styrofoam

>>723570331
Not that I know of, but you could probably jury-rig it.

I'm handy with a soldering iron so I never thought about it.

>>723570665
Same way a heavier pen is better or heavier keys on a digital piano. Some people find instruments easier to control if there is some weight to counterbalance your movements.

>>723570831
a mouse is an extension of your index finger and you use it to point at things
why would you want it heavier

>>723570936
this might be the most autistic post in this entire thread

>>723570823
>Even Logitech released the g502 which came with additional weights for the mouse.
I remember that. How times have changed

>>723563803 (OP)
Whatever you use, it can't be worse than anything designed by Apple.

>>723571030
where's the argument?
do you think a soldier wants a gun that kicks more?
does a sprinter weigh himself down to go faster?
did medieval knights carry twenty pound weaponry?
no to all of them

>>723571191
Why do people use apple shit again? I still don't get it

>>723570141
>Intel chips now has a BIOS level word filter so you can't say nigger
no fuckin waaaaaaaaay that can't be true

>viper V3 knock off

is it good though ?

>>723570823
G502 Hero is still the best mouse ever made

>>723571269
Marketing. sheeple is a cringe but accurate phrase.

>>723571269
I haven't seen their mouses but when it comes to wireless earbuds and phones, Apple does it first, next year whatever brand you're using copies it.

>>723564453
I don't have an mmo mouse, but my logitech g502 x lightspeed does have some extra buttons. Considering that my keyboard has even more buttons and runs on 2.4g, that statement feels extra weird.

>>723563803 (OP)
Too heavy. Where are the speed holes?
>cord drag
absolute meme

>>723563803 (OP)
Why would you ever take advice about current tech from oldfag /v/irgins? They still think OLED monitors get burn in.

>>723563803 (OP)
Wireless latency hasn't been an issue for like a decade, controllers are also starting to slowly catch up.

>>723563803 (OP)
Is the Elecom EX G worth getting? I love trackballs and I refuse to go back but my Logitech M570 is shitting itself and I need a replacement.

>>723571285
https://youtu.be/97Qhj299zRM?si=ZBtgHtvwEKv3Ed_c&t=1764

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/04/08/intel-bleep-gaming-this-software-will-let-you-censor-the-n-word-and-other-offensive-speech-but-on-a-sliding-scale/

Keep up grandpa

>>723571627
He was confused about how gamepads work (you cant have xinput with extra buttons)

>>723571713
Even the manufacturers tell you they do.

>>723570212
my man, i think im also getting close to 10 years with my roccat xtd.
had to change 3 switches and sadly did not find the right one for the scrollwheel click.

>>723571779
Yeah now the only problem is interference from literally every mechanical thing in your house sending out signals

>>723571814
Wait a minute.

Can someone over at /g/ use this same AI to say, filter the internet so I don't see posts from indians or blacks?

>>723571779
yes, it's called 2.4ghz controllers with hall effect sticks
bluetooth will always be shit

>>723572070
that sounds illegal

>>723571957
Maybe try playing outside of your microwave, works for me.

>>723572098
Yeah but latency can still be a concern. It's not like wireless mice where they are as fast as wired now, but wireless controllers have quickly been closing the gap. My cyclone 2 is almost the same speed as my xbox one wired controller is, probably by the cyclone 3 it will be.

>>723571957
have you ever used a wireless peripheral?

>>723572134
only if we get caught

>>723569365
I have the ability to simply not believe retarded articles like that.
>b-but studies say
nope

>>723563803 (OP)
If a mouse requires any external software I do not give a single shit how "good" it might be, it is beyond garbage. I would take an off the shelf walmart mouse over any of these meme mice.

>>723572731
modern high end shit has web drivers

>>723572731
How exactly are you supposed to remap keys without software?

>>723564453
No, since 2.4Ghz is not a communications protocol. Companies use whatever proprietary protocol they want over 2.4Ghz radio. The limits are defined by the chosen protocol. Bluetooth is also uses 2.4Ghz, and its limits are well known.

>>723572098
>bluetooth will always be shit
Look up GuliKit's latest controllers.

>>723566409
BT is one protocol. Random chinese protocols used by wireless peripherals are countless.

>>723563803 (OP)
They're bad for you. The microwaves cause oxidative stress and will lead to earlier RSI/joint issues

>>723567196
Wireless is good always. Every tier 1 CS2 pro has a wireless mouse.

>>723569365
>Wiener filtering
heh

From where does this "wireless causes cancer" shit come from? I'd never heard this in my life. Is it an American thing?

>>723574571
unironically it's /pol/ brainrot

>>723574571
Yeah, just like the 5G thing.

>>723574571
My grandpa listens to youtube propaganda every day and it's basically a mix of trump propaganda and anti-5g/anti-wireless/anti-some-random-mundane-shit conspiracy theory presented as "real scientific findings"

>>723574571
my ex gfs dad was really against wireless technology, the advent of smartphones (back in the day, i'm...old), basically any telephone *G technology signal towers being build in their vicinity...to the point he even went into politics at times apparently.
a few years ago i heard he died of cancer
i guess big wireless got to him

>>723569141
USB is limited by BUS frames. Wireless (really RF) commands bypass the need for BUS conversion. The microcontroller can send out packets in whatever hertz it runs at.

You are still limited by the actual usb dongle that connects to your computer tho. But still, the actual wireless output is much quicker.

>>723575163
Yeah I was thinking of xinput. My controller has extra buttons but they can't be remapped in 2.4g mode because they can only do 2.4g through xinput for some reason, and xinput can only make standard controller commands

If your input device of choice can't interrupt the cpu NOW and demand it process the input then its shit.

>>723576421
ps/2 has an interrupt rate of 200hz
that's fucking shit

>>723565751
Epomaker yuzuu whatever fuck tranny loves are all chinese

>>723576721
As opposed to waiting on a usb poll that the cpu will decide when it feels like doing something about?

>>723576883
that no longer matters, no one is running pentiums

>>723563803 (OP)
for me, it's 8bitdo's wireless xbox themed mouse. i didn't think it would be so good, but i like it quite a bit and i only need to charge it once every three weeks for like two hours. the attack shark was good too but any amount of drag is distracting for me and it would push up against my 40 inch ultrawide's stand which would jiggle the cord loose and give it latency issues until i reconnected it but that's more of a lack of desk space problem than a mouse problem
>>723568145
the lesson here is never listen to /v/

>>723576095
Xinput is cringe and not real
>>723576421
Hero2 and ARM cortex produce real wireless HID interrupts. In my testing there is no wired products that come close to Hero2 real-world report rates

>>723563803 (OP)
>latency is not noticeable whatsoever, same thing as wired (even better because this one has a better polling rate)
Could a competitive shooter player, competitive fighting player, or a MMO macro user confirm this?

I may be old, but there's no way electric signals travel faster through air than copper. You can use your wireless for your silly jRPGs.

>>723578215
I play fighting games and rhythm games. All wireless devices are garbage.

>>723578215
the latency difference between the best wired and wireless mice on earth is 0.3ms, see >>723570824

>>723578215
Almost every professional fps player uses a wireless mouse. Mainly the logitech pro x.

>>723578532
'cuz logitech sponsors them and give the mouse out for free to use.

>>723578215
Literally every pro is using wireless mouses and like >50% of pros use wireless headsets, those who don't are not doing so because of latency but because of audio quality.

>>723570824
No anon, over the span of 1 mouse stroke which is usually around 150-300 reports, the 125 microsecond response time of a 8000hz mouse becomes noticeable

>>723569141
It's because they use USB nigger mouse instead of PS/2

>>723578598
Stop noticing. Consume product.

>>723578598
Every single top used mouse is wireless. The only non-wireless mouse pros use is an endgame gear mouse. You are not clever or correct thinking sponsorships are the main factor in wireless mouse use

>>723564054
>mmo mice
If you need an "mmo mouse" you should reconsider your life choices

>>723579631
>money doesn't talk

>>723579865
>a conglomerate of mouse makers decided to band together and push wireless mouses on pro players for no reason.

Has anyone tried this? Sure it's fake retro and goofy but for 30 it isn't too much and is kinda appealing.

>>723563803 (OP)
>latency?
>complete non-issue.
>there's a chord attached to my mouse?
>I can feel it scraping across my desk every time I move the mouse bro!

>>723581468
Ok bro stay delusional

>>723580451
Woah Fatal1ty uses this mouse to a be a pro? I gotta get one to give me that edge!

>>723581715
>just double the cost of your mouse lol to solve an issue that shouldn't need to exist

>>723581768
Nice dodging the wireless argument which this whole thread is centered around and making it into your anti-consoomer jerkoff session

>>723581881
>*to fix an issue that has legitimately plagued players since the mouse's conception

>>723564567
>You fags always make shit complicated
Things usually aren't so straight forward. You should always try things for yourself.
But in this case I'd say yes to using a wireless mouse. I've been using wireless mice for decades now and can tell you there's no difference between wired and wireless. Just be sure to get a quality one, obviously. If you buy some random cheap chink sensor then you'll feel it worse.

>>723563803 (OP)
I wish someone would do a trackball mouse with a small one hand keyboard attached to, kinda like a MMO mouse but that won't give me severe wrist pain

Getting rechargeable wireless gear is proof that someone is underage.
Batteries die. You have never owned something that became useless after the internal rechargeable battery died. It is objectively better to get the wired version of anything. The only acceptable batteries are removable ones like pic related.
If you get something like a keyboard that you can plug in, and it will still work after the battery dies, that can slide. Ideally, it doesn't have a rechargeable battery at all. Something like what OP got is underage certified.

>>723582294
Can't afford a new mouse every 10 years?

I need my mice to be real fukken light, so wireless is an instant no-no.

>>723565215
I saw Redragon having an MMO wireless mouse, for cheap too. But I've never tried their products to attest to their quality.

>>723574571
Euros who think no Euros are stupid are proof that Euros are stupid.

nigga has to charge his mouse lmao

>>723582261
Anon those have existed for a long while

>>723582294
disposable battery mice are utter fucking shit tier with their low dpi and poll rates

>>723581715
sure, and I'm keeping my money while I'm at it.

>>723582352
Proof you are underage.
>there is infinite space and infinite resources on planet earth! I'm too young to have seen anything negative happen or change over time! I don't watch or read any news!
I'm glad I'm old enough to know what a quality product is.
Buy a cheap wired Microsoft ergonomic office mouse and it will last 10x as long as your retarded gaming gear.

Sincerely,

Your Uncle and Daddy.

>>723582581
OK, MLG dork.
You are the equivalent of a biker who buys the spandex, pointy helmet, and puffy crotch pants.
I'll lap you with my normal gear and normal bike.

>>723582704
Yeah okay gramps, enjoy your cable drag and shitty latency

>>723582571
can't find it anywhere, does it have an actual name to make the search more accurate, all I get are """"""ergonomic"""""" keyboards split in two that cost two kidneys

is the g502x really that much worse than the normal g502?

>>723564501
>PAW3311 sensor
What's wrong with it?

>>723582864
I just searched "trackball mouse with numpad" on google and got some results, here's a chink one from some random site I've never heard of before (but yeah there's definitely not a lot of them)

>>723563803 (OP)
As an aim fag tranny I can tell you for a fact there is no difference between wired and wireless mouses. And for all in tents and purposes a Chinese 40 dollar mouse preforms just as well as a 150 dollar logitech. Your grip style and mouse pad and hand shape are more important tthan 8000hz polling and 100k dpi.

>>723583016
Nothing, it's the most common mouse sensor for a reason.

>>723583016
for 30 bucks you can get a PAW3395 with better IPS and G

t. someone who paid 20 bucks for a VXE R1

>this thread is still going
Just get the m6.
If you hate it, return it. It's $50 bucks, kek
Literally nothing to lose.

What more is there to talk about?

>>723568306
XM3, XM4, XM5 or Q30 from soundcore
I have a XM4 and it's perfect, before that I owned the Q30s and they're almost as good
I heard XM3 than XM4 and XM5 in terms of sound, but should be negligible
Also XM5 hinges seem to break non-stop

Retvrn to Trackball

>>723563803 (OP)
My G603 lasted literally 3+ months on a single charge. That's when I new wireless haters were full of crap.

Of course it started double-clicking, fucking logishit.

>>723563803 (OP)
I keep polling rate at 1K hz, many game engines drop fps with higher polling rates.
Another way to reduce mouse latency is to use a higher DPI. 3200+ DPI is ideal, of course you would want to lower your mouse acceleration to account for the higher DPI.

B8um

I fail to see what's the point of wireless stuff? More points of failures and price for no gain.

>>723583002
bump
I read the switches are different (worse) but can it really get much worse than the normal g502?

I don't see the point of getting something battery powered that's literally 30cm away from your PC

>>723589061
its less points of failure since cable failure is so common

>>723589061
Wires are obsolete

>>723563803 (OP)
I hear Musk is taking new candidates for neurolink
You should sign up for that wireless accessory OP

>>723563803 (OP)
I have other reasons to never buy wireless. That wire the charging cable, it was actually wireless before it melted to the mouse.

>>723589264
I have used computer mice for 30 years and not once a cable has failed.
>>723589369
Wireless is strictly worse so not.

>>723589061
Why is it so hard for retards to fathom I DONT WANT FUCKING WIRES ON MY GOD DAMN FAGGOT DESK

>>723590204
retarded autist

>>723590262
YOU ARE THE RETARD WHO THINKS WIRES GIVE HIM STRENGTH WHEN REALKY THEY ARE JUST CHAINS THAT TIE YOU DOWN

>>723589739
lol

>>723571269
Veblen good for dumb normies.

>>723564054
>mmo mice
biggest meme there was. there's more than enough keybinds on the keyboard. mouse is for camera positioning/aoe positioning/targeting.

why doesn't someone make a mouse pad/desk mat that's also a wireless charging pad so your mouse is always charged

>>723589815
>Wireless is strictly worse so not.
Literally untrue in 2025, go back to mySpace grandpa

>>723591446
I think the charged mousepad would mess with the wireless signal

>HID can only handle 7 inputs without special drivers
THIS IS BULLSHIT

My mouse supports 2k polling rate but is it even worth it? I know anything above 2k is a meme and of marginal effect, but is 2k atleast useful or perceptible?

I'd have to buy the dedicated reciever and honestly i'm still trying to see if my mouse is even worth it as is, let alone with an additional gizmo for it

>>723569365
Oh, hey there, simulation in which I am living. Hadn't seen you in a minute.

had to replace mine because the scroll whell got gunked up and didn't work anymore, figured I might as well try them ultralight wireless mice while I'm at it. On paper it should perform better than my G203 prodigy anyways, so it's an upgrade even if I decide to just always keep it wired

>>723563803 (OP)
I switched to wireless around a year ago. the best thing is no fucking cable tug anymore, used to put my aim off sometimes and was annoying readjusting the cable now and then so minimize cable tug.

>>723591446
already exists

What's the most anti-gamer mouse of all?

I want a mouse that gives me the impression of someone who hates streaming, hates PC gaming, hates Valve, and hates Gabe Newell.

>>>/g/106925258
>>>/g/106925283

>>723563803 (OP)
>muh latency

Latency has been a meme for a while now. There's virtually no difference anymore.
Only boomers argue otherwise.

>>723593260
Tablet or that MX master 3 with 1/4 the poll rate of the average mouse

>>723593260
The big Kingston trackball mouse, its made for people still on dialup

>>723593712
Reasons why the MX Master 3 is the anti-gaming mouse I'm looking for?

>muh 8k polling
lmoaing when your cpu ignores 1/3 of them.

>>723593712
If your DPI is lower than 3200 then you could never possibly make more reports on your moyse than 125 a second. You will have a hard time even getting your mouse to make 75 reports a second

>Like having two buttons on each side of the mouse, so that my thumb and pinky each have two simple buttons to press
>This apparently hasn't been a thing since the fucking Sensei Ten, every other such mouse I look up either only has two buttons on the thumb side or a jillion buttons thumbside because it's some gay MMO mouse
I'm literally just going to have to rebuild this fucking thing because apparently my market doesn't exist anymore according to the mouse manufacturing world and the double click has finally set in

>>723594112
G903, pro x 2 superlight ambidextrous

>>723594261
>wireless
Thanks anyway

>>723594112
Probably the worst meme with modern gayming mice, they stick to the exact same number of buttons and layout. I'd think most gaymers would be dexterious enough to handle 4 thumb buttons like a dpad but we're still at only 2

>>723582427
>>723565215
Corsair also makes wireless MMO mouses, but none of them have the G shift button like the G600 does. I don't get why?

>>723595338
I'm not being sarcastic, I appreciate the recommendations but I don't want a wireless mouse, which of course you could not have known because I didn't vocalize such a preference. I'm just not going to settle for a product with a feature I don't want just because it has some of the things I do want, is all.

>>723595485
Why? It's just better

>>723595898
>Transmission lag
>Have kids, don't need one grabbing my mouse resulting in me losing it, a wired one is much more difficult for a toddler to swipe
Maybe the former has been solved, I don't keep up enough with the wireless mouse market to know, but until there's a damn mouse port to lock my shit in, there's no solving the latter

>>723595485
You.... can just plug it in.....

>>723596174
Do you think a toddler yanking on this won't unplug it?
Again, I appreciate the recommendations, but literally go have sex and come back some time after 9 months before you lecture me on what is or isn't a good idea for household with kids

>>723596529
JUST SUPERGLUE IT OR SOMETHING YOU HELPLESS NIGGER

I FUCKING HATE EVERYONE IN THIS GOD DAMN RETARD NIGGER GORRILA THREAD

XFIXHDXUDXHDXUDXURCDHJZSRZTSK?TSZYDZUDZYDZUDZYSZYSXUFXUD?IDXUDXUDXUDZYDXUDXUD?UD
ITS RETARDS ALL THE WAY DOWN I AM BANNING THIS THIS FUCKING THRASH NIGGER TROGLPYITE THREAD FUCK ALL OF YOU

For the Logitech ones you can just get a Qi Charging Puk for like 10$ and then charge them on every normal wireless charger.

>>723596529
>pull out wire
>it becomes a wireless mouse
Oh noooo what a travesty you fucking retard
Why is a toddler fucking with your equipment while you're using it anyway and how hard would it be to just plug it back in

>>723591240
You will never convince me against the comfort and usefulness of this extra button and I don't know why more mice don't have it. My ring finger feels like it's missing a resting spot with other mice.

>>723596914
Maybe I'll just buy a product that serves my needs instead
>>723597392
>Why is a toddler in your house in a place where you aren't at that particular moment of time
Because I have a job
Have sex

>>723597432
This is why I bought a bunch of MM720s when they were still available. Can't beat that shape.

>>723597471
so just fucking plug it back when you get home retard
It doesn't brick itself if you unplug it, it's a fucking wireless mouse with a charging wire

>>723564054
Shift+qertfg1234
CTRL+qertfg1234 not enough for you?

>>723563803 (OP)
did /v/ tell you this twenty years ago? good wireless mice have been a thing for ages now

>>723597746
Bro I don't know how this is hard for you to understand
>Wired mouse
>When I am done at my computer, I just get up and walk away
>Toddler tugs on it while I'm gone? The wire is routed behind my desk and stops him from pulling it free, kid loses interest and moves on
>Wireless mouse
>If I don't secure my mouse in some fashion, my kid can come, yank the mouse, it comes loose from its charging dongle, kid runs off, I lose my mouse
>If I do secure my mouse, I am now having to spend my time securing my mouse instead of just being able to get up and walk away

I don't get how you're struggling to understand this scenario, much less why you care so much about a rando on 4chan turning his nose at wireless mice

>>723598012
>wireless mouse means you can't route the wire just like you would a wired mouse
It must hurt being this retarded
If you can't train your kid to not be a faggot and steal your mouse every chance he gets, or at least have the common sense to unplug it and hide it in a locked drawer while you're away, you're too fucking stupid to be procreating in the first place

>>723597791
add alt+12345qertgvcxz and function keys to that and also still no

>>723598281
>wireless mouse means you can't route the wire just like you would a wired mouse
Look at where the connection point is you FUCKING RETARD. You think this is as secure as a permanently wired connection?
>If your kid ever gets into something he shouldn't, you are stupid
Yeah ok kid. Get back to me once you've had sex (so never).

>>723563803 (OP)
wireless having lag is a problem from over a decade ago, you're just retarded

>>723598012
>much less why you care so much about a rando on 4chan turning his nose at wireless mice
corporate cultists turn products into their entire personality. your rejection of [product they like] is akin to a rejection of them personally, which makes them mad

very demented stuff to see actually

>>723598012
NTA but if you have to worry about your kid taking your mouse you got other problems. That kid is going to end up drinking bleach if you can't handle securing basic shit. Buy whatever mouse your want but your reasoning is retarded.

Being a kid
>OMG I don't want the cheap brands I need the expensive gaming stuff that all the streamers use and advertise
Being an Adult
>this 15 dollar budget MMO mouse is just as good or better than 150 dollar equivalents

>>723598708
The very nature of the mouse being wired is what secures it, retard-kun

>>723598839
>this 15 dollar budget MMO mouse is just as good or better than 150 dollar equivalents but now it costs 150 dollars on ebay because it's discontinued

ftfy

>>723563803 (OP)
Induction is superior to battery.

>>723598991
This one is still quite cheap

>>723598457
You really are making a mountain out of a molehill with something as trivial as a detachable cable. God forbid your retard kid ever finds out that things like your phone or your monitor or a controller (or basically anything made in the last decade because fucking everything is rechargeable with a cable nowadays) can also have its cable detached and moved around, because clearly you're too fucking stupid to deal with it.

>>723599213
Missing what makes my G600 god tier >>723597432

Thankfully I bought an extra when they were on sale for $20 and I know how to replace those notorious shitty omron switches because fuck what people are charging for them now.

>>723599357
>You really are making a mountain out of a molehill
I'm not the one sperg-posting for 20 posts because someone on 4chan said they would rather buy a wired mouse than a wireless mouse though. I don't see why I would buy a product that only has some of what I want instead of everything I want, nor why someone else would spend this much time lecturing someone on their wants or preferences out of a product.

>>723564054
who the fuck plays MMOs in 2025 boomer

>>723582427
their software is fucking garbage, i have one and barely use it.

>>723599664
There aren't any MMOs in 2025, thoughbeit.

>>723563803 (OP)
at the risk of sounding retarded why can't mice be built like PCs? with the shell being the "case". i know its hard to standardise shit but they all click downwards with a bottom sensor (motherboard). if some shit fails it can be replaced easily.

>>723563803 (OP)
No

>>723596098
>lag
It's not a thing since several years ago. Read this thread.
>badly behaved kids gatekeep wireless technology from anon in 2025
Discipline your kids.

>>723599524
because your reasoning is utterly retarded. If someone said they needed a new car but refused to buy one because their windshield wipers could be detached and stolen then he'd be called a retard too. It's literally a non-issue that only the most autistic of fags would ever fuss over.

>>723600057
Ok
Get back to me when you have sex (never)

>>723566969
didn't know pinoys made mice

>>723564521
esports pros have been using wireless for over a decade at this point, you're just a placebotard

>>723600129
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>723599664
MMO mice are probably good for RTS as well

>>723570767
patent on an implementation of hotswapping but not the actual hotswap mechanism itself right?

>>723570670
just aim with the arrow keys like in the good old days, mice make fps games way too easy

>>723600192
My argument is you literally do not have kids and have no ability to conceive of the consequences of having them in your house. Since you don't, you have no idea what you do or don't need to worry about.

My argument is objectively correct and you are also a virgin so you lose anyway. GG.

>>723600216
Not sure what exactly the patent is about, but I've never seen these specific sockets anywhere else. Their site claims it's their exclusive design.

>>723600290
Apparently you're too retarded to put away your mouse in a shelf or just tell your inbred child not to fuck with your things too LMAO
Makes me wonder how you even managed to figure out how to work a mouse in the first place

>>723596529
>>723597392
>>723598457
>>723599357
kek I loved this exchange top tier humor (had to remove some replies because of spam filter)

>>723566017
hello, 5'11" king

>>723600290
>>723600523
Dude you're an adult but can't even decide on a mouse and have to ask 4chins what are you doing

>>723566276
i only use my headset to play team games, otherwise I have good wired headphones or speakers. wireless headsets are still far nicer to use for their intended purpose.

>>723573797
is that why you can't just have a 2.4ghz card on the motherboard like you can with BT? or just use the wifi card that it already has

>>723600662
I said I was going to rebuild the mouse that I do like tho, way back in >>723594112
Why are you so angry and desperate for the last word?

What mice have actually good side buttons?

>>723564054
The fuck do you need that for

>>723600762
Hush you'll be drawn into an hour long discussion with wireless cultists.

>>723600768
I like the G502x, has enough buttons for my needs.

The average user on this board is so dogshit at games that they would never notice the difference

What goes through the mind of a poster that believes 2.4Ghz radio signals aren't nearly latency-free in defiance of all data and research, and tries to argue that wireless hasn't standardized or moved on from 2000-2005 era infrared sensors?

>>723601041
why aren't 2.4Ghz wireless IEM attachements more popular?

>>723563803 (OP)
I don't like light mouses, they feel really shit

Back in my day we added weights to our mice. Not this gay pussy 100g pansy weak hand low test "mice." No wonder zoomers have half the sperm count.

>>723601604
>>723601232
see >>723570823
you were victim of marketing

>>723566696
>>723566969
that looks like trash keychron is so shit

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I have bought a good mouse, I got fucked over. They always get the double click issue sooner or later. Years ago my piece of shit razer naga at least had the decency to work for like 2 years, before turning into a piece of shit. The moment I moved out and into my own place and treated myself with a gaming pc, my new razer started double clicking just after a few months.

But the no-name random garbage mouse my mother bought me and my brother as a backup somehow still works after sitting for years in a box. This is just a fucking scam. Like who cares about polling rate, wireless and all of that, if it chronic double clicking issues. I want to buy quality to not worry about this.

for me its the attack shark r6

>>723601686
There's no marketing needed when something just feels better. No one bought these mice because of the weight feature. The G5 was just one of the most popular mice at the time.

>>723601121
Needs a dedicated dongle is why.

>>723601854
fucking retard if you ever put 10 seconds of research into this you would know the solution has been optical switches for years they are impossible to double click

>>723601604
>accuracy: 12%

>>723563803 (OP)
Costs more
Needs battery
Not as durable

Idk anon, what's the use really? A mouse is just a fucking mouse why would it need to be wireless? For what? You spend more for something that isn't even a problem, literally what is the problem being solved by wireless mouse? Is it just length and distance? But then why are you so far away from your pc??

Conclusion, retarded and however much you got paid to advertise this hook me up I need money

>>723593260
This one >>723571191 (with the usb still plugged in)

>>723601854
retard they sell hot swaps

>wireless headphones are bad!
Ermmmmm no? They sound fine. You just have sound autism. I can also go walk to take a piss outside and still talk to my friends while you are probably friendless and getting strangled on your coiled up wires every second you try moving.

>>723594967
you want a fucking joystick with hats nigger

fuck it i need a bunch of things and this is the closest thread I can see. can someone give me some recommendations?
need a couple of things
>ANC TWS earbuds (priority comfort and ANC)
>wireless MMO mouse
>ANC headphones (priority comfort and ANC)
>HG/RG gunpla sets
>portable monitor. really small trying to use as a secondary monitor for work laptop but I'm using a comfy lap table while working on a cushion futon thing whatever you call on japan stuff.

>>723602767
nobody wants to talk to you while you're pissing, faggot

>>723563803 (OP)
>battery lasts weeks
My mouse runs on a single AA battery and it lasts like 2 years

>>723563803 (OP)
I knew wireless had caught up with wired when I saw CS pros switch over to them

If the people who game in 4:3 in 2025 for a perceived advantage think there's no difference, then I trust them

>>723582427
>>723599710
The software is fine if you aren't using it to make macros, and you shouldn't anyway. (Use autohotkey)

I'm looking for a mouse that has good side buttons and isn't expensive. The moment side buttons are introduced to a mouse, unless it feels like shit, guaranteed to be 100+ USD.

>>723571814
>While Bleep aims to combat hate and discrimination through artificial intelligence, AI technology has often been shown to actually reinforce systemic biases like racism and sexism.

>Our pattern recognition engine was noticing patterns we didn't want it to notice

I was never prepared for the cyberpunk hellscape we live in to be this gay

>>723605734
the pattern recognition engine keeps getting fed seethe by online retards until the seethe becomes one of its patterns, see also the twitter meltdowns from people trying and failing to get grok to denounce black people

>>723606304
>if we just lobotomize the ai it can't see average iq statistics anymore, take that chuds, racism lost this day
riveting

>>723606401
yeah getting fed average IQ statistics was part of the twitter crash-outs about not being able to get grok to call blacks monkeys, all attempts to turn the twitter AI into a phrenologist failed

Do good wireless headsets exist?

>>723606456
we get it, you are really happy after enough lobotomization, current generation ai can't correctly identify statistical averages

nobody asked though

>>723606552
you've invented your own reality and then had the shamelessness to pull the nobody-cares card lmao

>>723606610
>um actually YOU'RE just inventing your own reality, my invention is the accurate one :^)
niggers will never be human
cry about it

>>723563803 (OP)
Is op memeing. This was a debate in 2020. No one has ever said get wireless in the last 4 years.

>>723563803 (OP)
My wireless mouse needs physical batteries and it lasts almost a year. Completely worth it.

>>723578215
>there's no way electric signals travel faster through air than copper.
Are you stupid. Wireless mice use radio waves which travel at the speed of light. Electricity can be argued to "propagate" at the speed of light but thats a physics conversation you arent ready for. Either way it doesn't matter because the latency for both is going to be capped by drivers and windows resources/scheduling.