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Do not buy VtMB 2. Good evening.
Anonymous No.723583470 [Report] >>723583756 >>723583825 >>723584436 >>723584531 >>723584742 >>723585042 >>723593170 >>723594239 >>723594340 >>723603465 >>723605431 >>723613481 >>723617245 >>723617392 >>723622376
>>723583294 (OP)
what was this bitch ass's problem anyways
Anonymous No.723583539 [Report] >>723617296
>>723583294 (OP)
I'm not even pirating.
Anonymous No.723583756 [Report] >>723584051
>>723583470
He is just a (relatively to Real People) fledgeling who had delusions of grandeur, the Tr*m*re dude shits on him with good reason. Most probably he was sent to Cali in a "sink or swim" situation, but he's out of his depth, and the game make numerous reference about how much he's out of his depth.

He's grasping at any power he could have, and the Sarcophagus provide him with such. So of course he goes ball deep into getting the Sarcophagus. He's just a little shit.
Anonymous No.723583825 [Report]
>>723583470
He's a rich nonce.
Anonymous No.723583948 [Report] >>723584027 >>723584789 >>723586342 >>723606445
>>723583294 (OP)
Maybe the most cogent and intelligent thing you've ever said, Lacroix.
Anonymous No.723584027 [Report]
>>723583948
Heather sex
Anonymous No.723584051 [Report]
>>723583756
he's clearly a spoiled rich kid that was turned when he was a french aristocrat during the 1700s and hasn't changed his mindset once from those 270 years ago. Always handed shit without earning it and pussies out when confronted just like real nepos
Anonymous No.723584254 [Report]
Anonymous No.723584301 [Report]
I’d already forgotten it even existed.
Anonymous No.723584379 [Report] >>723584548 >>723584668 >>723584803 >>723584861 >>723584861 >>723585135 >>723602661 >>723603629 >>723619009 >>723624526
What Jack and Cain were trying to achieve by making ankaran sarcophagus look like resting place of uber vampire? What's the point of local vampires fighting each other off?
Anonymous No.723584436 [Report]
>>723583470
Ventrue.
Anonymous No.723584523 [Report] >>723608121
Which mod/patch allows you to turn Yukie into a vampire?
Anonymous No.723584531 [Report]
>>723583470
Ventrue only have two settings
>Coolest Motherfucker in the room.
>Unbearable twat

It mostly comes down to how well they've estimated the abilities of everyone else in the room. Lacroix severely overestimated himself and the value of his assets while undervaluing (You). Probably because he's french.
Anonymous No.723584548 [Report]
>>723584379
The former wanted the Camarilla out of LA and the latter was just in it for shits and giggles.
Anonymous No.723584668 [Report]
>>723584379
Eliminating the Head of the Camarilla and their primary base of operations. Though I think for Cain it might have been more about orchestrating events to get someone to fuck up the Kue-jin presence in California.
Anonymous No.723584681 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
I will (not) do as you say commander.
Anonymous No.723584742 [Report] >>723585042
>>723583470
He wanted to be The Guy
Anonymous No.723584789 [Report]
>>723583948
Shut up LaCroix
Anonymous No.723584791 [Report] >>723587019 >>723596126
>>723583294 (OP)
Some anon told that she isnt even in the game, this true?
Anonymous No.723584803 [Report] >>723585017 >>723585230 >>723593859
>>723584379
Taxi Driver isnt Cainon
Anonymous No.723584861 [Report] >>723592084
>>723584379
Cain does whatever the fuck he wants, it's kinda his thing. By now he's just a troll (with a fairly huge teeth against God, but it's not like he can kill God). Cain can be in your country right now, or manning your Taxi right now. Why? Just because lmao.

WW were absolutely against the Taxi driver in Bloodlines 1 being Cain, and several times said it wasn't so. The issue with that is that Cain can appear in several locations accross the world, and occasionaly does, and Cain being a Taxi driver in Bloodlines is just what everyone expect Cain to do just to troll people.

>>723584379
>What's the point of local vampires fighting each other off?
Jack is 400 years old by this point, and he just want to kick the Camarilla in the ball. He hypes up a sarcophagus full of explosives, hypes it up really much, then watch people wanting to get it. Cain probably just was there because, unironically, lmao.
Anonymous No.723585017 [Report]
>>723584803
Yes he is lol
Anonymous No.723585042 [Report]
>>723584742
Why do Americans talk like Jewish actors?

>>723583470
He's French and rich and old.
Anonymous No.723585135 [Report]
>>723584379
Jack has been around for a few hundred years, I guess after surviving for so long, eventually he just started fucking with the other vampires for shits and giggles, he's an anarch at heart afterall.
But I mean he did say that he hates the camarilla and one way or another, he got rid of Lacroix or the player (if you decide to join him, or take his place).
He won either way.
>What's the point of local vampires fighting each other off?
Not a lore fag, but I've read that the whole immortality thing turns all the vampires crazy paranoid after a while.
Anonymous No.723585140 [Report] >>723585251 >>723585319 >>723585990
>all the shill threads died immediately
...bruh
Anonymous No.723585230 [Report] >>723585312 >>723593315 >>723594337 >>723596448 >>723597046 >>723615721
>>723584803
no he is

he got tired of being the overlord of all vamps, so he dipped and decided to live multiple mortal lives out of boredom so he became a la cab driver
Anonymous No.723585251 [Report] >>723585382 >>723585556 >>723585572 >>723585862
>>723585140
I thought the game was going to be just average but now it's looking bad
Anonymous No.723585312 [Report]
>>723585230
What immortality does to an MF
If the antediluvians and Methuselah weren't cunts they'd probably do the same thing
Anonymous No.723585319 [Report]
>>723585140
They are off the payroll after the reviews went live.
Anonymous No.723585382 [Report] >>723585684 >>723585850
>>723585251
>game was going to be just average
That's what everyone assumed too. As long as the story is at least somewhat fun slop I think it can still be average
Anonymous No.723585556 [Report]
>>723585251
From the moment they had that lame reveal press event all those years ago I knew it would be a disaster.
Anonymous No.723585572 [Report]
>>723585251
It is average but when you give your game the bloodlines 2 title you expect it to play/follow the same formula as the original if you read a lot of reviews that is pretty much the main complaint
Anonymous No.723585684 [Report]
>>723585382
>As long as the story is at least somewhat fun slop
It's boring, the game is dead. Don't make excuses for the stupid.
Anonymous No.723585850 [Report] >>723586216 >>723586524
>>723585382
>As long as the story is at least somewhat fun
I think the original game sold itself more on atmosphere than story.
The writing was good, but still.
Anonymous No.723585862 [Report] >>723586032 >>723586296
>>723585251
All we need is a Netflix Anime and people will start calling it GOTY
Anonymous No.723585990 [Report] >>723586504
>>723585140
how hard is it to make a game with inventories and quests and skills in a random american city with like 6 memorable characters and you're a vampire and you do and fix stuff and kill stuff

that's literally all vtmb 2 needed to do
Anonymous No.723586032 [Report] >>723586159 >>723586196
>>723585862
cp2077 was always good though, on PC that is.
Anonymous No.723586159 [Report] >>723586296
>>723586032
Yeah, that's exactly the kind of retarded stuff people will be saying.
Anonymous No.723586196 [Report]
>>723586032
You will never be a woman.
Anonymous No.723586216 [Report] >>723587121
>>723585850
The original wouldn't be as well regarded if it was running off of pure atmosphere, it had some pretty good writing and dialogue that 2 is probably not going to capture imo. The atmosphere in 2 seems somewhat alright but that's about all it has going for it
Anonymous No.723586296 [Report] >>723586660
>>723585862
>>723586159
Cyberpunk was a well regarded game outside of the bugs and technical issues, this game relatively isn't actually that buggy it just sucks, I don't think netflix anime alone can fix bad press even one as good as edgerunners
Anonymous No.723586342 [Report]
>>723583948
>you can save Heather in the Wesp5 patch
THANK YOU
Anonymous No.723586504 [Report]
>>723585990
i can't believe any of you assumed it was going to be good. you should know better.
Anonymous No.723586524 [Report] >>723586612
>>723585850
It also sold on the ability to use your fresh invisibility powers to sneak around the local hospital and hack the computers there just to read the local doctor fucking his intern and his wife is very angry about it.

Saying VTMB 1 had no gameplay is absolutely retarded.
Anonymous No.723586612 [Report]
>>723586524
I didn't say anything about the gameplay, just that the atmosphere was transcendental while the writing was just good.
Anonymous No.723586660 [Report] >>723587437
>>723586296
>Cyberpunk was a well regarded game outside of the bugs and technical issues
If you were a paid shill and only focused on crap like story and graphics. The RPG mechanics were completely nonsensical, gunplay and melee were both clunky garbage compared to contemporaries, the weapon upgrade system was a worse version of Borderlands unless you used the crafting system which was incredibly tedious, and the AI was and still is largely braindead.
Anonymous No.723587019 [Report]
>>723584791
She isn't. I guess she had too distict design to put her in the game.
I would also assume that Safia is some very tortured version of Elif, but that's a stretch.
Anonymous No.723587121 [Report] >>723587503
>>723586216
I wouldn't really say it's the writing so much as the voice acting, which kind of falls into atmosphere. Almost every character is just extremely memorable and part of that is because they're caricatures, just extremely well done ones.
Anonymous No.723587437 [Report] >>723587896
>>723586660
>as if normies care about any of that
Gameplay for normies is largely a matter of convenience rather than a serious consideration. I'm not even sure bloodlines 2 has anything that can be redeemed about it other than the atmosphere
Anonymous No.723587503 [Report] >>723587991
>>723587121
Caricatures are the ideal RPG npc unless they're plot critical and you'll see them multiple times desu
Anonymous No.723587896 [Report]
>>723587437
To a degree. They still review bombed and did mass returns. They tolerate simplistic gameplay if the vibes are good but even they can draw the line when gameplay elements feel dated or are actively unfun, a lot of which Cyberpunk was. It wasn't just that the game was buggy, it was that it was actively doing it's best impersonation of a Ubisoft game and not even a particularly good one.
Anonymous No.723587989 [Report] >>723588215
>>723583294 (OP)
Literally him
Anonymous No.723587991 [Report] >>723588109
>>723587503
I can totally dig a caricature villain if it's delivered well. I mean VTM's villains are a French Aristocrat and a Chinese Concubine and a German Priest.
Anonymous No.723588062 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
Don't worry, Sir.
I wasn't going to.
Anonymous No.723588109 [Report] >>723588223 >>723588295 >>723612402
>>723587991
You forgot about Mr. Dracula from Temu.
Anonymous No.723588215 [Report] >>723589586
>>723587989
Anonymous No.723588223 [Report]
>>723588109
Anonymous No.723588264 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
Didn't even need to use Dominate to convince me, my guy :)
Anonymous No.723588295 [Report] >>723588379
>>723588109
>Extremely stereotypical villain
>Make him look and sound cool
This is peak.
Anonymous No.723588379 [Report]
>>723588295
Vibes is a big part of villains
Anonymous No.723588613 [Report] >>723589135 >>723589181 >>723589430 >>723589621 >>723590056 >>723592430 >>723603702
I just want ONE game in which we can finally join Sabbat. ONE game.
Sabbat is actually really fun as a faction, I don't get why the writers are always doing them dirty. I think VtM: Redemption is the only VtM game where you technically play as Sabbat, but it's more about Christoff joining them because most of his buddies are already there.
Anonymous No.723589029 [Report] >>723589229
>>723583294 (OP)
Why? What's the problem with the new game? I want some actual answer.
Anonymous No.723589135 [Report] >>723589516 >>723589621
>>723588613
>sabbat PC
I think the problem is more so that Sabbat is comically evil and will haze the new guy PC, on top of encouraging literal masquerade breaking with their messaging. Would probably be a lot of work to write. Redemption was pretty comical itself too
>6'5" literal crusader walking around town speaking his fake language swinging a massive sword and no one calls it a masquerade breach or gets involved
Anonymous No.723589181 [Report] >>723589595 >>723589646
>>723588613
Have you played the Clan Quest Mod? But yeah a Sabbat focused game would be cool as hell in the hands of capable writers that don't treat them as a joke
Anonymous No.723589229 [Report] >>723590283
>>723589029
It's bad
>v5 focused lore so setting is raped
>plot is rather mediocre to stupid
>Rik Schaffer got the boot technically so most of the music won't be his
>combat is mid
>no roleplay mechanics or abilities except for the walking sim segment where you play a Malk who thinks he's a hardboiled detective
If you've seen some of the plot leaks, they're quite bad
Anonymous No.723589430 [Report]
>>723588613
will never happen WW doesn't even want groups to play Cammarailla in VtM let alone sabbat, their own rulebook completely lacks rules to play them in V5
Anonymous No.723589516 [Report] >>723589921
>>723589135
>I think the problem is more so that Sabbat is comically evil and will haze the new guy PC
Unless you roll a Tzimisce, then you are the one doing the hazing. What, you really want to piss of the Dragons?
Also, Sabbat isn't comically evil per se, it's more often than not the grunts that are retarded. Once you start climbing up the sect ladder things are starting to get interesting.
Anonymous No.723589586 [Report] >>723589954
>>723588215
When is he going to upload the Friggin Chicken review?
Anonymous No.723589595 [Report] >>723589931 >>723589945
>>723589181
>Have you played the Clan Quest Mod?
Is it good? I've never played any mod quests, only the unofficial plus stuff.
Anonymous No.723589621 [Report] >>723589804 >>723589921
>>723588613
>>723589135
I'd imagine because it's easier to focus on the main conflict of Camirilla and Anarchs who're "friendly". who work very easily in the narrative and mechanically. Whereas being openly Sabbat makes you a Kill On Sight target, it's not impossible I can imagine something like having it be that your "induction" is via a double agent working in one of the prior factions and eventually you can just branch off and join them outright. It's just a lot more difficult since the other two factions are more or less the same thing with a disagreement on management.
Anonymous No.723589646 [Report]
>>723589181
>Have you played the Clan Quest Mod?
I did. It was actually a pretty fun, nuanced portrayal.
Anonymous No.723589804 [Report]
>>723589621
Unless you are in the Sabbat-controlled territory.
Anonymous No.723589882 [Report] >>723592801
Anyone tried this mod? Is it any good?
https://www.moddb.com/mods/la-by-night
Looks nice based on screenshots.
Anonymous No.723589921 [Report]
>>723589516
A game where you climb up and the NPCs get less retarded could be interesting but it'd probably would be a tough sell for the start I think
>>723589621
That seems like it takes a lot of effort writing and I wouldn't trust modern vidya writers with that, any sort of nuanced portrayal to vampire supremacists that isn't aping modern MAGA/right wing discourse would be a miracle
Anonymous No.723589931 [Report] >>723590018 >>723590539
>>723589595
Yeah it's pretty good
Anonymous No.723589945 [Report]
>>723589595
You get to personally kill Nines Rodriguez and that alone makes in a 10/10 mod. Also, you can bully Damsel so hard, she becomes a member of your Sabbat pack.
Anonymous No.723589954 [Report]
>>723589586
he is going make the chicken a vampire and then eat it live
Anonymous No.723590018 [Report] >>723590110 >>723591029
>>723589931
Holy hell who is the hot topic cutie on the right?
Anonymous No.723590056 [Report] >>723590256
>>723588613
I don't like the focus of Factions in general and think things work better if the focus is based on local Clan interactions. Which is what your faction pretty much is 99% of the time anyway. Anarch vs Camarilla is essentially just making the Ventrue vs Brujah beef everyone else's problem.
Anonymous No.723590110 [Report] >>723591085
>>723590018
I actually don't remember her. Isn't she just some Sabbat-affliated ghoul?
Anonymous No.723590256 [Report] >>723590772
>>723590056
There is a reason why post 1e editions of VtM ditched the Camarilla vs Anarchs conflict for Camarilla vs Sabbat, with Anarchs being those annoying kind nobody gives a fuck about.
Because Anarchs are fucking boring. You pick an Anarch when you don't feel like comitting to either Sabbat or Camarilla.
Anonymous No.723590283 [Report] >>723590454 >>723590536
>>723589229
Well, to be fair, I wasn't expecting an actual GOTY game anyway.
I thought there would be some uber shit like Veilguard writing. If they nail the aesthetics it wont top the first game of course, but it will be playable.
Anonymous No.723590454 [Report]
>>723590283
to be fair, my expectations were low but somehow seeing the way characters talk and the writing and the quirky redditor voice in your head it ends up with my expectations being even lower.
Playable? Sure
Good? It'd be a miracle
All the reviews are riffing on the game's plot being somewhat nonsensical and the game being shallow outside of atmosphere
Anonymous No.723590536 [Report] >>723591990
>>723590283
>I thought there would be some uber shit like Veilguard writing.
Well, the plotline of Bloodlines 2 is "two cunts are simping for some guy that's been dead for a while and they make it everybody's problem".
And then there is just pure nonsense happening. I am 99% sure TCR pulled a lot of lore out of their assess, because that's not how it fucking works in tabletop at all.
Anonymous No.723590539 [Report] >>723590757 >>723590870
>>723589931
Sabbat are the coolest gang ever. I can't believe grognards thought Anarchs were the cool guys. Sabbat just makes more sense and even non-Tzimisce clans are delightful.
Anonymous No.723590619 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
W...why? What have I missed? Does it suck?
Anonymous No.723590723 [Report] >>723603565
I think vampires SUCK
Anonymous No.723590757 [Report] >>723591006
>>723590539
>I can't believe grognards thought Anarchs were the cool guys.
Nobody ever thought Anarchs are cool. It's V5 that is really trying to make them look cool. But in our tabletop sessions back in the day, nobody played as them. My sessions were mostly Camarilla- focused (because I am team Tremere), my buddy's sessions were Sabbat-focused and the Anarchs were a cannon fodder for our PCs.
Anonymous No.723590772 [Report] >>723591039
>>723590256
Anarchs are annoying because most Brujah and by extension Gangrel who hang out with Brujah are annoying. If you made every single Camarilla member act like Lacroix people would say that faction is annoying too. But for some reason WW writers have the common sense to not do that meanwhile nearly every single Anarch at some point is going to go on about some moral sophistry instead of just being able to say "Yeah this is my turf, don't tell me what to do"

If the majority of Anarchs were like the Baron of Hollywood no one would really be bothered by them.
Anonymous No.723590870 [Report] >>723591006 >>723591152 >>723592621 >>723594887
>>723590539
>Sabbat just makes more sense
In the way that they want to destroy Antediluvians/keep them asleep as deeply as possible, yes. In the whole "rah rah freedom from the Elders" ideology they peddle, no. If anything, Sabbat Elders are even more influential and monstrous than Cammie ones.
Sabbat is almost gone in V5, sadly. WW did them real dirty.
Anonymous No.723591006 [Report] >>723591291
>>723590757
Ah, fellow Tremere enjoyer. Tremere are Camarilla's Tzimisce. Great taste.
>>723590870
And in the Anne Rice novels the inspiration for Sabbat are some vigilante thin-bloods who hunt evildoers. The main character are Anarchs, though.
Anonymous No.723591029 [Report] >>723591085 >>723591228
>>723590018
Arianna, Hazel's ghoul
Anonymous No.723591039 [Report] >>723592948 >>723593240 >>723593247
>>723590772
And Brujah themselves are actually a very cool clan if you can play them properly. They are called the Learned Clan for a reason. It's just that most media portrays them as those raging antifa retards. While in reality, they are probably the most in tune with their Humanity, moreso than the Toreador.
Anonymous No.723591085 [Report]
>>723590110
>>723591029
Nice
Anonymous No.723591112 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
My Dearest Sebastian LaCroix,

My heart is yours, unwavering, no matter how these communist fiercely they tried to drag your name through the mud. Let them whisper of your wrongs, let betrayers turn their backs, none of it dims your truth in my eyes. The world may scorn you, happy of your departure, but your vision burns bright, etched forever in the warmth of my soul. You are, and always will be, my guiding star.

Yours eternally,
(You)
Anonymous No.723591143 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
Don't have to tell me twice
but during the Stone Age....
Anonymous No.723591152 [Report]
>>723590870
Damn, I never noticed the absolute knockers on that dead chick in the middle.
Anonymous No.723591228 [Report] >>723591520
>>723591029
Hazel was such an entertaining guy. If you pick the Setite bitch over him there is something wrong with you. Yes, she's the more "moral" of the two, but who the fuck cares?
Anonymous No.723591230 [Report] >>723591486 >>723592950
>>723583294 (OP)
>Give! Me! A! Remaster!
Anonymous No.723591291 [Report] >>723591393 >>723591428
>>723591006
IIRC the whole concept of the Sabbat came from this movie
Anonymous No.723591393 [Report] >>723591979
>>723591291
That and The Lost Boys. Because don't tell me that David's gang isn't a proto-Sabbat pack.
Anonymous No.723591410 [Report]
Sorry. But I will. I like watching car crashes.
Anonymous No.723591428 [Report] >>723591571
>>723591291
But even here they're good vigilante guys.
Btw whatever happened to Giovannis? Are they Camarilla or Sabbat?
Anonymous No.723591486 [Report] >>723593347
>>723591230
Maybe a fan remake/mod for cyberpunk 2077 in like 15 years from now like the reawakened project for skyrim kek
Anonymous No.723591520 [Report]
>>723591228
>Malk antitribu who is batshit even by his clan's standards and is also a plague spreader
vs.
>a no-nonsense, practical Setite chick whose only drawback is being a spic
Wow, what a hard choice.
Anonymous No.723591556 [Report] >>723591802 >>723593046
I went ahead and preordered it. Partly because I want to experience whatever the fuck it is firsthand, partly because I want to see if there's a Hunter the Parenting reference tucked away somewhere.
just hoping it doesn't have some PC-bricking tier bug
Anonymous No.723591571 [Report] >>723591812 >>723591983 >>723592447
>>723591428
They are and always were independent. Also, don't get me started on the Giovanni in V5. There is retarded lore change (Assamite joining the Camarilla), there is a VERY retarded lore change (Lasombra are joining the Camarilla) and then there is Giovanni - I'm sorry, Hecata.
Anonymous No.723591802 [Report] >>723593046
>>723591556
>I want to see if there's a Hunter the Parenting reference tucked away somewhere
That would require the writing to remove that massive stick from its ass and actually have some moment of levity.
Anonymous No.723591812 [Report] >>723591906 >>723592080
>>723591571
I don't understand these good old companies like White Wolf, Chaosium, Atlas Games and Cubicle 7 (no need to mention H*sbro) making each new iteration of their games a hate letter to their fans.
Anonymous No.723591906 [Report]
>>723591812
>Just one more demographics, if we just had one more demographic we'd make so much more money just a few more demographics please god
Anonymous No.723591979 [Report]
>>723591393
Fright Night 2 too I'd say but Near Dark definitely was the biggest influence on Bradstreet's artwork
Anonymous No.723591983 [Report] >>723592296
>>723591571
>and then there is Giovanni - I'm sorry, Hecata.
The whole idea of Giovanni joining forces with the Harbingers (who want nothing more than to erase them off the face of the earth) and the fucking Nagaraja of all people is so pants-on-head retarded that I do not even want to get into it.
Anonymous No.723591990 [Report]
>>723590536
>Well, the plotline of Bloodlines 2 is "two cunts are simping for some guy that's been dead for a while and they make it everybody's problem".
That's pretty funny.
Anonymous No.723592080 [Report]
>>723591812
It's the retarded belief that people who were your customers once will stay your customers forever.
Anonymous No.723592084 [Report]
>>723584861
VOTM Cain exists and doesn't really give a shit about his descendants at this point? last time I read a the game book was 20 years ago.
Anonymous No.723592089 [Report] >>723592375 >>723592416 >>723592484
any lorefags who can explain to me why did the first city ruled by Kane and his children failed?
having an immortal ruler would be beneficial in the long run
Anonymous No.723592294 [Report] >>723592426 >>723595637
Best girl passing through
Anonymous No.723592296 [Report] >>723592861
>>723591983
We are in a reality where the Assamite joined hands with the fucking Tremere and Ventrue are suddenly buddy-buddy with the Lasombra.
So what next, Salubri and the Tremere are going to hug it out? Tzimisce will join the Anarchs?
Anonymous No.723592375 [Report]
>>723592089
vampires are evil and get bored and fall into torpor over time, caine had already left the first city before the 2nd gen were killed by the antediluvians
Anonymous No.723592416 [Report]
>>723592089
Because of the vampiric curse. The Beast is actually a big issue for the VtM vampires.
Anonymous No.723592426 [Report] >>723592695
>>723592294
>that second outfit with the exposed tummy
Sex
Anonymous No.723592430 [Report]
>>723588613
>I don't get why the writers are always doing them dirty
Something something bigotry. Sabbat arent even much more evil then the Camarilla they're just less human and that's what's fun. Maybe I want to RP as an evil character paradox???
Anonymous No.723592447 [Report] >>723592701
>>723591571
the lore is just a ruin atm but who gives a shit about canon
Anonymous No.723592484 [Report] >>723604282
>>723592089
Too many vamps getting ideas, too few mortals unhappy with the way things were set up.
Eventually God decided Caine was a shitty mayor and treated the whole thing to a pressure wash.
Anonymous No.723592621 [Report] >>723592724 >>723592861 >>723592880
>>723590870
I think they fucked up the focus of Anarch and Sabbat in relation to the Camarilla in regards to Clan. Mostly that the factions are tied so heavily to particular clans when it really should be more of a Generational dispute more than anything. Also stupid that Anarchs are treated as "Social Reform" group when they're pretty much the least equipped to do that kind of stuff outside of their specific locale.

Camarillas are fine playing under the rules of the Methuselah, forming a strict and static hierarchy.
Anarchs are fine playing under the specific rules of their specific regional Elders, with some limited mobility within that system
Sabbat say fuck everything and want to just operate individualistically. Power mobility linked to how strong your pack gets.

Lasombra and Tzimsce, while very cool, never made sense to me as heads of the Sabbat since they're among the most hierarchical clans with intense control of sires of childer. Meanwhile Sabbat packs operate by distilling their blood among themselves, purposefully to dilute the concept of Clan and Generation among them.
Anonymous No.723592695 [Report]
>>723592426
I really dig the first outfit. Those purple pants look hot as fuck in a tomboyish way and the bitch tee is cool also
Anonymous No.723592701 [Report]
>>723592447
Thankfully, V20 is still a thing.
Anonymous No.723592724 [Report]
>>723592621
i think anarchs should be replaced with autarks, vampires that dont want to be bothered by sects whether they are young brujah or ancient tzimisce the entire idea of heckin socialist revolutionaries in the middle ages is retarded
Anonymous No.723592793 [Report] >>723592857
Anonymous No.723592801 [Report]
>>723589882
idk most fan projects for vtmb are pretty eh
Anonymous No.723592857 [Report] >>723592919
>>723592793
Anonymous No.723592861 [Report] >>723593126 >>723593191 >>723593473
>>723592296
>the Assamite joined hands with the fucking Tremere
They still hate each other, and the Tremere are a pale shade of themselves. That, at least, I can understand.
>Ventrue are suddenly buddy-buddy with the Lasombra
Lasombra becoming suck-ups (heh) to the Ventrue while deluding themselves with "we're actually gonna run the whole thing from within" is just as retarded as the Hecata.
>Salubri and the Tremere are going to hug it out?
I think WW would rather quietly forget the Salubri even exist or even retcon them out the way they did with Children of Osiris. They wrote themselves into such a corner with their lore that they won't be getting out of it.
>Tzimisce will join the Anarchs?
Already happened, at least with some of them. Most Tzims went indie, a few even joined the Cam. V5 is retarded as fuck.
>>723592621
Packs are the lowest rung of the Sabbat, essentially cannon fodder. There's a reason Tzims and Lasombras used to run the whole thing, without hierarchy the Sabbat would disintegrate in a day. The whole individualism and power mobility is just the spiel they used to feed the fledglings.
Anonymous No.723592880 [Report] >>723593473
>>723592621
>Lasombra and Tzimsce, while very cool, never made sense to me as heads of the Sabbat since they're among the most hierarchical clans with intense control of sires of childer.
They are also the clan that embody "MY rules not YOUR rules" philosophy the most. So naturally they would be the ones to reject the sect that relies on systemic order, because you don't tell a Tzimisce warlord what to do.
Anonymous No.723592919 [Report]
>>723592857
Anonymous No.723592927 [Report]
It's gonna be great
Anonymous No.723592948 [Report]
>>723591039
>biker quoting Locke at you or something as he tard rages beats your face in
Anonymous No.723592950 [Report]
>>723591230
>spends entire time on assets instead of just giving a good redo on the shading
I'm upset desu assets are fine just give a nice improvement to the shading that doesn't overdo it
Anonymous No.723593046 [Report] >>723623309
>>723591556
>>723591802
>Paradox and TCR EVER referencing a fan project that is more liked and popular than their actual game release
That'd be the day huh
Anonymous No.723593089 [Report]
Kill all vampires.
Also I started listening to Collide. Pretty good.
https://youtu.be/MyJKV0zZFHs?list=PLZSe0vDSNXedN1ARTEn6lHWRhjtAy4ni6
Anonymous No.723593126 [Report] >>723593565
>>723592861
>and the Tremere are a pale shade of themselves
It's funny how much of a hateboner the writers had for the Tremere since time immemorial. And what's even more funny is that this is probably one of the most popular clans among the fandom. How do you call the opposite of character shilling? The thing that is popular with the fandom but hated by its creators?
Anonymous No.723593141 [Report] >>723593186 >>723593762
>>723583294 (OP)
I won't
They couldn't even bother to make an actual RPG. I've had enough of that with Cyberpunk
If you sell the game as an RPG make a fucking RPG
Anonymous No.723593148 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
"I thought I had lost it all, but no, here you've sailed on a Gehenna wind, bearing my salvation - the key to my future."
>What are you so happy about?
"Buy - The - New - Game."
>Fuck you
"I SAID, BUY - THE - NEW - GAME!"
>Don't waste your time trying to dominate me
Anonymous No.723593170 [Report] >>723595147 >>723617337
>>723583470
Anonymous No.723593186 [Report]
>>723593141
The sad (?) thing is that Cyberpunk is million times more of an RPG than Bloodlines 2.
Anonymous No.723593191 [Report]
>>723592861
>Tremere a pale shade of themselves
kind of but apparently it's a galaxy IQ play to make people think Tremeres are on the decline
Anonymous No.723593240 [Report] >>723593540
>>723591039
The learned clan moniker is more meant to show how far the brujah have fallen from the days of Carathge or even the Middle Ages into pointless riotous and contrarian punks who just lash out at Vampire society for not being what they envisioned.
One of the themes of Redemption is the decline of the Brujah in modern nights
Anonymous No.723593247 [Report]
>>723591039
>They are called the Learned Clan for a reason
Anonymous No.723593315 [Report]
>>723585230
Him being a taxi driver just makes perfect sense really. Caine is cursed to forever wander the world of his children, but never allowed to be part of it. Him being a taxi driver who never reveals himself, but always keeps an eye on kindred activities, and never intervenes beyond nudging a few pieces here and there in a certain direction, it's kino.
Anonymous No.723593347 [Report] >>723594152
>>723591486
A mod that adapts that old Cyberpunk Vampire book is more likely
Anonymous No.723593446 [Report]
Is Antitribu mod any good? I don't think I've ever heard anyone mention it here, just UP and CQM.
Anonymous No.723593473 [Report]
>>723592861
Yeah but Sabbat packs are like 99% of the thing and the aspect everyone actually plays with. I think as long as you had a Survivor or two, or the Sabbat were written to be slightly less suicidally retarded, you'd have enough of a recruitment pool from disgruntled fledgelings and the fact you have no one preventing you from makes new Childer, so I think their numbers would be fine. You could also have Sabbat sympathizers within the Camarilla or Anarchs purposefully encouraging the Childer of Elders they don't like to defect.

>>723592880
That naturally feels like something that would fall more to the Anarchs. Sabbat is specifically forming a large number of rogue vampire groups only loosely affiliated and controlled by the upper echelons of the Sabbat. I would imagine Tzimsce would be annoyed by that as much as someone trying to tell them what to do.
Anonymous No.723593508 [Report] >>723593585
>>723583294 (OP)
I won't. Reminder TCR hates Bloodlines and thinks they made a better game.
Anonymous No.723593540 [Report]
>>723593240
MAKE BRUJAH GREAT AGAIN
Anonymous No.723593565 [Report]
>>723593126
I think you call that the charismatic punching bag. Tremmies have been hated by White Wolf from the beginning though kek, I think maybe they wanted to just have a pure vampire game but decided a ttrpg without wizards in it wouldn't sell so they reluctantly added the Tremere. Funnily enough Vampire has maybe the most classic physical/mental effects with very little actual spellcasting outside of Tremere and every other splat is like "you want magic? here's some magic"
Anonymous No.723593585 [Report] >>723594549
>>723593508
proof?
Anonymous No.723593724 [Report]
whatever happened to that RTX mod for the og bloodlines?
Anonymous No.723593762 [Report] >>723593840
>>723593141
2077 wasn't much of an RPG but at least they got the setting and atmosphere right, Night City even reminded me of Bloodlines' LA at times. Bloodlines 2 on the other hand just looks generic as fuck, it lacks that eerie 2am feel
Anonymous No.723593840 [Report]
>>723593762
>Mr. Spielberg loved this shot
Anonymous No.723593859 [Report]
>>723584803
What those faggots over at WW think is canon means nothing to me.
Anonymous No.723594152 [Report]
>>723593347
CDPR really dropped the ball by not pulling a Blood and Wine for 2077
Anonymous No.723594239 [Report]
>>723583470
its one of those french jokes
Anonymous No.723594279 [Report] >>723604817 >>723605504
>>723583294 (OP)
Imma be replaying Redemption instead
Anonymous No.723594337 [Report]
>>723585230
If he was cain he'd give my nos arse a lift instead of making me slog through the sewers.
Anonymous No.723594340 [Report] >>723596002
>>723583470
He's a Ventrue.
Anonymous No.723594549 [Report] >>723594765
>>723593585
Everything they have said
Anonymous No.723594765 [Report]
>>723594549
what did they say. (dominate) speak. faggot.
Anonymous No.723594887 [Report] >>723595351
>>723590870
>In the way that they want to destroy Antediluvians/keep them asleep as deeply as possible
This is Sabbat propaganda. They want to diablerize the Antediluvians. Remember, diablerie is very common among the Sabbat.
Sure, this will stop Gehenna, but will give all the power to them, which they will use to rule the world.
Anonymous No.723595147 [Report] >>723604709
>>723593170
I have grown to dislike Nines and the others, LaCroix is still retarded but they're not much better. He gets way too much praise despite not really standing for much. Jack and Abrams seems more sensible by comparison. They just kind of wanted to live their unlife and not have to deal with political bullshit. But Nines is trying to represent the underdog which is hilarious because Kindred are even more individualistic than humans. Not to mention when you mention how similar the Anarchs are to the Camarilla he flips at you. I mean he's cool for saving the PC but he is to Jack what Damsel is to him.
Anonymous No.723595351 [Report] >>723595535 >>723595848 >>723596026
>>723594887
>They want to diablerize the Antediluvians
doesn't that always backfire though? diablerize seems to be fine when you are just eating a lower fledgling but gets weirder when you start sucking on the big boys because they can just overpower/mind control you through sheer willpower
Anonymous No.723595535 [Report] >>723595667 >>723595848
>>723595351
Didn't backfire for Uncle Auggie. Augie? Augustus Giovanni. Didn't backfire for most lesser cases of diablerie, either.
Anonymous No.723595592 [Report] >>723595995 >>723598661 >>723616646 >>723617650 >>723622387 >>723623975
The new shill strategy is to call this footage sped up when it's not, here's the video with audio and it syncs https://files.catbox.moe/aky76o.mp4
Anonymous No.723595637 [Report] >>723596339
>>723592294
>vest on top of jacket
Anonymous No.723595667 [Report] >>723595740 >>723595848
>>723595535
>Didn't backfire for Uncle Auggie
I mean, outside of the fact that Uncle Auggie is essentially a barely cognizant vegetable, things went dandy for him.
Anonymous No.723595740 [Report] >>723595776
>>723595667
You're thinking of Tre-"all according to keikaku"-mere.
Anonymous No.723595776 [Report]
>>723595740
No, I'm thinking of Giovanni specifically.
Anonymous No.723595848 [Report]
>>723595351
>>723595535
Diablerie backfires when you're trying to consume a vampire so outside of your realm without appropriately superhuman willpower
and even if >>723595667 doesn't happen at best you might get schizoid delusions of reliving past events from the POV of whoever you consumed, and that's assuming the soul doesn't try to fight you for dominance like what happened with Tremere who by all accounts had superhuman willpower and still lost
Anonymous No.723595860 [Report]
It's been great
Anonymous No.723595995 [Report] >>723596848 >>723600015
>>723595592
>that frame skip
>the cartoonish bleh bleh bleh accent
>the shit dialogue
SIX FUCKING YEARS!
Anonymous No.723595996 [Report] >>723596573
VtMB X Deadcock event when
Anonymous No.723596002 [Report]
>>723594340
I also played a ventrue and I was much cooler than Lacroix
Anonymous No.723596026 [Report]
>>723595351
Went exceedingly well for Troile.
Anonymous No.723596126 [Report] >>723596306 >>723596874 >>723617576
>>723584791
Too sexy for the game. Outstar's OC self insert is probably the cutest NPC but even then, she's built like a fridge. Phyre has a braless deep V shirt and there's that Toreador in charge of that Atrium club has that too. But they don't have breasts so it's like staring at a a young man's chest. Every new design pales in comparison to what little we saw of Elif
Anonymous No.723596306 [Report]
>>723596126
>polish troon is the best looking model
I hope the chink room gets raped by a pack of muslims and their studio burnt to the fucking ground.
Anonymous No.723596339 [Report] >>723596404 >>723597216
>>723595637
Very common pairing in the punk/metal scene since like the late 70s
Anonymous No.723596404 [Report]
>>723596339
Anonymous No.723596448 [Report]
>>723585230
His dialogue in both the game and the game files is literally labeled "caine"
Anonymous No.723596473 [Report] >>723596665 >>723605623
>>723583294 (OP)
>"Trust the Ai. Good evening..."
Anonymous No.723596573 [Report] >>723596767 >>723596867 >>723597464
>>723595996
Pic related is actually a pretty cool design for a Gangrel character
Anonymous No.723596665 [Report] >>723605623
>>723596473
not pale and sickly enough. also not french enough.
Anonymous No.723596767 [Report]
>>723596573
THE LOIF UVA TRU GANGREL GEEZA
Anonymous No.723596848 [Report] >>723597047 >>723597248
>>723595995
I'm glad you don't like the shitty accent because for half of the game you don't even play as Phyre! And wait there's more! You get to listen to this shitty Malk detective who never. stops. fucking. talking. all the time because Phyre diablerized him so he's inside your head and half the game are just his memories with no combat sections. TCR delayed the game a year to write more shit for Fabien.
Anonymous No.723596867 [Report] >>723596956 >>723597024 >>723602614 >>723608947
>>723596573
isn't he supposed to be a werewolf character or is it literally
>le animalistic vampire
Anonymous No.723596874 [Report]
>>723596126
I don't mind she being flat chested but it seems they made some minor changes in the TCR model to look more like Outstar. It's a shame they didn't made those pants lower

Also Onda looks fine too
Anonymous No.723596956 [Report] >>723597170 >>723597204 >>723598143 >>723598424
>>723596867
I don't know why people are so weird about gangrels.
Transforming into animals is one of the most iconic vampire powers ever.
Anonymous No.723597024 [Report]
>>723596867
Dunno I haven't played Deadlock lmao but he looks like a suckhead to me. Animalistic vampires are kino
Anonymous No.723597046 [Report]
>>723585230
He's just a larping malk
Anonymous No.723597047 [Report] >>723597095 >>723597248
>>723596848
>TCR delayed the game a year to write more shit for Fabien
Anonymous No.723597095 [Report]
>>723597047
It's the closest thing to their specialty, the walking sim
Anonymous No.723597149 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
i already did lol
Anonymous No.723597170 [Report] >>723597324 >>723597592 >>723598143
>>723596956
I think it's because Gangrels play up the animalism and also it doesn't help that they're basically vampire hobos and live out in the woods
Anonymous No.723597204 [Report] >>723620034
>>723596956
Gangrel fucks
Anonymous No.723597216 [Report]
>>723596339
huh guess I'm just too square for the punk aesthetic.
Anonymous No.723597248 [Report] >>723597407 >>723598332
>>723596848
>>723597047
Also there's really no secret plot twist about Fabien being evil or anything, he's just there for most of the game. It's kind of boring but also he has more personality than Phyre. He dies because, get this, Phyre goes into the sun to escape and Fabien had enough power to protect him so Phyre could crawl a whole sidewalk into a sewer. Is that even possible in canon that a diablerized vampire ancilla can protect an elder from the sun?
Anonymous No.723597324 [Report] >>723597546 >>723597592
>>723597170
Hobos are awesome in urban fantasy
Anonymous No.723597372 [Report] >>723597838
>>723583294 (OP)
I rolled Gangrel from the personality test and I didn't want to play some fucken rasta lookin vampire
Anonymous No.723597383 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
will be pirating. kinda excited to see how shit it is
Anonymous No.723597407 [Report] >>723597987
>>723597248
This game is going to get torn apart, even the shill has fucked off for the most part. Man, tuesday can't come fast enough. I wonder if it will be as fun as the Trannyguard release.
Anonymous No.723597464 [Report]
>>723596573
That's just Lycan from Dota
Anonymous No.723597546 [Report] >>723612732
>>723597324
Gangrel are very much anti-urban fantasy outside of PC, have fun finding another gangrel other than Beckett
Anonymous No.723597592 [Report]
>>723597170
>>723597324
Bloodlines' hobos are fucking tanks
Anonymous No.723597675 [Report]
IMO if they wanted to go for the le two personalities inside a body, they should've just had a younger vampire from a higher generation share their mind with a supposed antitribu elder who hates the Camarilla, the Sabbat and the Anarchs. Have the elder be controlling, manipulative and untrustworthy but ultimately the neonate trusts him because every other vampire is out to fuck them, and then half-way you discover the elder wants to take over your body, and at some points he did and made shit worse for you. Fuck it, go all Manhunt 2 on that bitch. Leo had a fun personality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1v-B8pty50
Anonymous No.723597683 [Report] >>723598037 >>723598127
Is there really no escape from vampire politics without getting fucked? Or are you pretty much doomed to lick the boot of whatever faction and clan you end up with if you want a modicum of comfort in your unlife?
Anonymous No.723597784 [Report] >>723597951
>V5 just takes Giovanni and combines them with other clans to create Hecata
What were they thinking?
Anonymous No.723597838 [Report] >>723598105
>>723597372
Isn't male gangrel pc supposed to be inspired by the guys of Korn? Very 2000s indeed
Anonymous No.723597951 [Report]
>>723597784
They wanted to consolidate all flavor of necromancer
Anonymous No.723597987 [Report]
>>723597407
I hope for Paradox's sake they didn't spend too much on that shill since he made me go from not caring about a sequel 20 years later to actively hating it and laughing at how shit it is
Anonymous No.723598037 [Report]
>>723597683
Kindred are inherently hierarchical, it’s a massive pyramid scheme for power.
Anonymous No.723598105 [Report]
>>723597838
kek I forget that's a late 90's mid 00's haircut. Still looks retarded
Anonymous No.723598127 [Report]
>>723597683
Yeah vampires are very political. Unless you're a gangrel chad, then you can just fuck off and live innawoods.
Anonymous No.723598143 [Report] >>723598261 >>723598305 >>723598565
>>723596956
>>723597170
pre V5 gangrel are cool in my book
Anonymous No.723598261 [Report] >>723598483
>>723598143
kind of looks like postal dude
Anonymous No.723598305 [Report] >>723598483
>>723598143
>gangrel thinking he can 1v1 a werewolf
Anonymous No.723598316 [Report] >>723598397 >>723598549 >>723598597
Should I just install the steam version that I own or pirate the gog version?
Anonymous No.723598332 [Report]
>>723597248
>Also there's really no secret plot twist about Fabien being evil or anything
Yeah, because the secret plot twist about the real villain is even dumber.
>Is that even possible in canon that a diablerized vampire ancilla can protect an elder from the sun?
IIRC, no, because that's not how diablerie works. Granted, Saulot was able to pull some crazy shit, but then again, he's a fucking antedeluvian.
Anonymous No.723598378 [Report] >>723598693
Yukie. Wife. That is all.
Anonymous No.723598397 [Report] >>723598456
>>723598316 (me)
I'm talking about the original VtMB of course
Anonymous No.723598424 [Report] >>723599736
>>723596956
It's because we know exactly why you're playing the furry clan.
>oh, I'm not playing a Toreador stripper to try to turn the table into a magical realm game! I'm just playing a cliche!
Anonymous No.723598456 [Report]
>>723598397
GOG version is actually stable.
Anonymous No.723598483 [Report] >>723598540
>>723598261
Soul patches were also pretty popuiar back then

>>723598305
Yeah he's fucked but at least went out with a bang
Anonymous No.723598540 [Report] >>723598994
>>723598483
>Soul patches were also pretty popuiar back then
Heh, I used to have one myself.
Anonymous No.723598549 [Report] >>723609812
>>723598316
The steam version is just an extra couple of clicks, you download the unofficial patch and that's it. You change the launcher options and you can play the unofficial patch without issue.
Anonymous No.723598565 [Report]
>>723598143
That dude is fucked
Anonymous No.723598597 [Report]
>>723598316
install steam version > download the patch
Simple
Anonymous No.723598661 [Report]
>>723595592
Two tranny characters I can barely tell apart. Can't even tell what sex they are. They are ugly and so forgettable. They look like they are from Valorant and their clothes too. The background looks AI-generated, I don't even know what it's supposed to be. The shit neon-pink Valorant filters are awful and break any immersion one could have.

I still can't believe they managed to convince me to NOT buy their game and to NOT pirate their game. That is an achievement in itself.

Tempted to enroll in Computer Science just so I can learn how to hack and then hack these paradicks c*nts and release the 2019 build myself.
Anonymous No.723598668 [Report] >>723599119
where's my werewolf gf
Anonymous No.723598693 [Report]
>>723598378
>Yukie was 18 in 2004
>She should have 38 years by 2024
Imagine how milfy she must be now...
Anonymous No.723598994 [Report]
>>723598540
Anonymous No.723599119 [Report] >>723599476
>>723598668
Been asking myself the same question
Anonymous No.723599125 [Report] >>723599417 >>723599432 >>723604007
Why are there reviews of it when it's not even released yet?
Anonymous No.723599417 [Report]
>>723599125
Anon I ...
Anonymous No.723599432 [Report]
>>723599125
Because people got their copies already. You can find full playthroughs on YT. And yes, it is as awful as you can imagine. Probably the biggest flop in the gaming industry alongside Concord.
Anonymous No.723599476 [Report] >>723599569
>>723599119
ngl I liked 2 more than 1, but both are so good.
Anonymous No.723599569 [Report] >>723599607
>>723599476
Me too. We don't talk about the third one
Anonymous No.723599607 [Report]
>>723599569
yup.
Anonymous No.723599736 [Report] >>723623507
>>723598424
Whatever dude *turns into mist*
Anonymous No.723599856 [Report] >>723599902 >>723600202
Anonymous No.723599902 [Report] >>723599972
>>723599856
Anonymous No.723599972 [Report] >>723600050 >>723601514
>>723599902
Anonymous No.723600015 [Report]
>>723595995
UH ACKSHUALLY it's 4 years till TCR got their hands on it in 2021 but still it shouldn't excuse their piss poor work
Anonymous No.723600050 [Report] >>723600124 >>723601514
>>723599972
Anonymous No.723600124 [Report] >>723600178
>>723600050
Nossie gals are cute actually
Anonymous No.723600178 [Report] >>723600323 >>723601514
>>723600124
Anonymous No.723600201 [Report] >>723600568
>cutest one is the nossie
Inverse world
Anonymous No.723600202 [Report] >>723600382 >>723600427
>>723599856
lmao these are great, they have shitpost energy, dare I hope it's not AI?
Anonymous No.723600323 [Report]
>>723600178
Anonymous No.723600382 [Report] >>723600783
>>723600202
from their deviantart:
Full stock list is really big. Part of the stock is from freepik, unsplash and pixabay. The other part is from my own resources or painted by me. I'll try to add full stock credit later. The stuff inside the aquarium was made by AI, except for the fish(unsplash.com/photos/closeup-ph…) and clan detail.
The main character - www.freepik.com/free-photo/bru…
https://unsplash.com/photos/closeup-photo-of-ten-pet-fish-N608DF9lq94
https://www.freepik.com/free-photo/brunette-girl-black-evening-dress-holding-glass-wine-against-white-room-with-bed_26457305.htm
Anonymous No.723600427 [Report] >>723600783
>>723600202
>they have shitpost energy
huh?
And no it doesn't look like AI to me
Anonymous No.723600454 [Report] >>723600627 >>723600783 >>723602406
Why didn't LaCroissant use fortitude to tank the bomb
Anonymous No.723600568 [Report]
>>723600201
They always have been
Anonymous No.723600627 [Report] >>723601710
>>723600454
He wasted all his blood dominating and presencing the security forces beforehand. He used his last drop to dominate the player.
More importantly, and I welcome fa/tg/uys to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's quite how fortitude works.
Anonymous No.723600694 [Report] >>723600746 >>723601024 >>723601218 >>723601349 >>723602406 >>723603149
i don't know how vtmb has managed to mantain discussion on /v/ for literal years.
i got absolutely everything i could from it in less than a week, it is not a very deep game.
Anonymous No.723600746 [Report]
>>723600694
It's all about the vibes, man
Anonymous No.723600783 [Report] >>723601061
>>723600382
I am trembling with glee, three of these are wallpaper material right away

>>723600427
the Tremere one is very shazzam-like, watching the new game bomb after they fired Mitsoda and Rik

>>723600454
he didn't put any points in it because he speedrun his build to gain political power, unlike the Fledgling who did favours to anyone mildly polite regardless of reward (looking at you Damsel, a big fucking nothing for solving your ZOMBIE ISSUES RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR BASE)
Anonymous No.723600908 [Report] >>723601340 >>723602304 >>723603219
How would you make a VtM/WoD game? I feel like VtM:B got it mostly right in basically being a Vampire Deus Ex.

>hub based world with lots of smaller social hubs
>unarmed/melee/ranged are all viable
>generic story with expected twists and turns and lots of lore call backs and windows into the setting (personally I think most adaptions of setting are fucked by trying way too hard with stupid 'original' stories and characters)
>ghoul recruitment / safehouse development
Anonymous No.723601024 [Report] >>723601315
>>723600694
Metagaming is what kills the discussion. The reason I can keep talking about it is because I examine the console for decisions the devs made that help explain gaps in the game. Those gaps lead to further extrapolations of what went wrong at Troika. That, in turn, leads to community suggestions for how to make a good VtM game that would not only capture the soul of Bloodlines, but also make it mechanically approachable to the average player.

For example, the auto-level function DOES have different stat spreads at character creation based on the player’s history, which is disabled in the final release. It does NOT have different level-up paths based on said history because, again, the function was disabled. Auto-leveling also requires too much XP than what the game offers to ever reach 5 dots in everything. What do you make of all of this information?
Anonymous No.723601061 [Report] >>723601234 >>723601745
>>723600783
>very shazzam-like
Ah I see kek that's true. That pic always reminds me of this
Anonymous No.723601218 [Report]
>>723600694
helps that it has an entire catalog of ttrpgs backing it up and the fact that ppl like vampires and other supernatural shit in general.
SUPER AGGRO CRAG !!lvskrld+4TB No.723601234 [Report] >>723601745
>>723601061
its pink lemonade, it could be watered down blood.
Anonymous No.723601307 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
I wasn't gonna.
Anonymous No.723601315 [Report] >>723601404
>>723601024
>What do you make of all of this information?
That Troika was stupid?
Coukd've eaaily just made a "Standard" stat plan for Each Clan.
Anonymous No.723601340 [Report] >>723603219
>>723600908
By ignoring V5 stuff and being set in the late 90s
Anonymous No.723601349 [Report] >>723601542
>>723600694
this game did surprise me from time to time, like some low humanity reactions which are only possible if you kill a few NPCs from the get-go before talking to anyone

also there's the
>setting
>people's reactions to stuff
>porn
and the very fact that "common sense" seems to be a superpower in this setting
Anonymous No.723601404 [Report] >>723601708
>>723601315
Yeah I don’t think deep discussion is something you’re capable of. Oh, well, at least I gave you an honest opportunity!
Anonymous No.723601514 [Report]
>>723600050
>>723600178
>>723599972
HRRRRRRRRRNNNNNN
Anonymous No.723601542 [Report] >>723601608 >>723601745 >>723605175
>>723601349
On the flip side Gary is incredibly hostile if you’re a Toreador/Ventrue and openly fantasizes about boiling your skin off.
Anonymous No.723601608 [Report]
>>723601542
Gary is based
Anonymous No.723601708 [Report]
>>723601404
You tell me that Troika failed at something sime a dozen JRPGs do and then call me stupid for thinking they're retarded?
Anonymous No.723601710 [Report]
>>723600627
it is how it works, the game just have a blood cost for it, fortitude can soak aggravated damage (fire) and adds to your stamina pool for everything else
but enough explosives to blow up a car is 15 dices of damage point blank, so 7 Health level average (instant death if not soaked)
there's at least twice that in there
Anonymous No.723601745 [Report]
>>723601061
>>723601234
lmao saved

>>723601542
I probably should do a t-800 ventrue playthrough, saving it for the clan quest mod since I read the Ventrue and Malkavian questlines are especially interesting
Anonymous No.723602165 [Report] >>723602278 >>723602501
Not a single Bloodlines 2 (both HSL and TCR) female character is as hot as the VTMB1 ones. Fucking how?
Anonymous No.723602278 [Report] >>723603057
>>723602165
Difference between early 2000s american xulture(beloved by all) and 2020s American Culture(hated by all but srill copied by other countries for some reason)
Anonymous No.723602304 [Report]
>>723600908
I won’t give you every idea I have but this is the most obvious one: Every NPC has a handful, if not all, of the following dialogue trees:
A) Ask them a generic question(s)
B) If a merchant, ask for their inventory
C) Leave conversation
D) Skill-based dialogue that opens them up to offering you help without permanently harming their disposition to you
E) Persuasion-based dialogue that causes them to offer slight help with no disposition harm
F) Intimidation-based dialogue that rewards you with the same help as the skill-based tree, but comes with a disposition penalty. If the penalty is too high, the NPC becomes actively hostile and offers no help whatsoever.
G) Seduction-based where the NPC offers you the same help as the skill-based tree, but increases your disposition with them instead. However, seduction only works on characters of the opposite gender; if you take the Homosexual history, it works on the same gender instead.
H) Haggle-based tree, which is only available when discussing trades involving currency or material goods. Haggling can’t be used for charity; you must be offering up something yourself for this to be available. Haggling automatically affects merchant prices, as well.
Anonymous No.723602406 [Report] >>723602774
>>723600454
he was already almost empty, hurt, in shock and didn't exactly have his marbles
>wanting to give the succ to an Elder when he was too hurt to even stand
also, he was on the 50th floor or such, jumping out the window may have worked if he landed on the "closest" rooftop of his tower but that was also unlikely for the same 3 reasons above

>>723600694
this will sound Toreador as fuck but I use VtM and, to a lesser degree, the WoD setting to filter people for friendship material
some of my best friends have played Bloodlines, even those who otherwise never touched a computer game in their lives (and haven't since)
it's just *that* good; millenials resonate with it, zoomers understand the before-times, and I've used lines from this gaym in the normie world with great effect
>once you go gross, nothing comes close
Anonymous No.723602501 [Report]
>>723602165
I could give you the run down but the mods would kill the thread
Anonymous No.723602506 [Report] >>723602679 >>723602791 >>723602865 >>723602869
Fresh OC from a recent modding fuck-up
>an abstract kind of feel

https://files.catbox.moe/im9gz0.mp4
Anonymous No.723602614 [Report]
>>723596867
Drifter is 100% a vampire with blood-themed abilities
Anonymous No.723602661 [Report]
>>723584379
In that version of vtm, LA was anarch for centuries before the Camarilla showed up
The Kuei-jin also crept in during that time
Jack made a power play for the anarchs at the same time the Camarilla tried to get rid of the Anarchs for good (the Nines setup)
In the end the clusterfuck stops with only the Anarchs left standing no matter what choices you make
Anonymous No.723602679 [Report] >>723603560
>>723602506
kek why are they like this
Anonymous No.723602774 [Report] >>723603008
>>723602406
Still can't get over the fact that her cleavage is just a painted texture, I really thought they were real 20 years ago.
Anonymous No.723602791 [Report]
>>723602506
LITERALLY what I looked like after being embraced desu
Anonymous No.723602865 [Report]
>>723602506
>it's an end of days thinblood Gehenna kind of feel
Anonymous No.723602869 [Report]
>>723602506
>the music running in the background business as usual
>le instagram face
>last tag is homosexual
Anonymous No.723603008 [Report] >>723603067 >>723603097 >>723603470
>>723602774
>her cleavage is just a painted texture
The fuck?
Anonymous No.723603057 [Report] >>723603276
>>723602278
Do they have free speech in other countries? I see that as a talking point alot and I'm wondering if some people know their own cultures.
Anonymous No.723603067 [Report] >>723603115
>>723603008
Just look it dog there's no real depth to it.
Anonymous No.723603097 [Report]
>>723603008
Cloth physics on top of jiggle physics still don’t exist in video games…
Anonymous No.723603115 [Report]
>>723603067
Yeah I never noticed that before. Always seemed fully modeled to me
Anonymous No.723603149 [Report] >>723603425 >>723603445
>>723600694
Because the characters put on great performances. It's the same reason people discuss movies many years later despite them being 90-120 min long and typically shallow. nobody in VTMB threads ever talks about combat or level design etc. it's just the characters. They worked wonders with the source engine and the 90s/2000s era goth type characters literally cannot be replicated anymore.
Anonymous No.723603219 [Report]
>>723600908
>Vampire/WoD Dude Sex would be the ideal
>Vampire/WoD Disco Elysium would be a close 2nd
as >>723601340 says
>Fuck v5 and either pretend it didn't happen or set it in earlier times
Anonymous No.723603276 [Report]
>>723603057
USA has far more free speech than Europe does, and better standards of living than Africa, some parts of Asia and the rest of America.
Anonymous No.723603425 [Report] >>723603745
>>723603149
speaking of level design, yeah the levels are usually linear but man the raw variety in Bloodlines is incredible
>junky den
>train station
>hospital
>snuff-film tier mansion
>sewers, catacombs, warrens
>Giovanni mansion and their weird catacombs place
>dilapidated building
>the ship
Yeah it's not groundbreaking but it sure is cool
Anonymous No.723603445 [Report]
>>723603149
I'd say the atmosphere is more talked about than the characters
Anonymous No.723603465 [Report]
>>723583470
he gave into the beast
Anonymous No.723603470 [Report]
>>723603008
>two shots, house rules, but you decide where
you can hardly fathom my dissapointment that this kind of brittish slag (70s-2010s) went out of style by the time I got to visit the Bri'ish
Anonymous No.723603560 [Report] >>723603797 >>723603882
>>723602679
Before you stands a true warrior of the Dark Father. I am the Sword of Caine!
Anonymous No.723603565 [Report]
>>723590723
astute observation, anon
Anonymous No.723603629 [Report]
>>723584379
Cain wanted to hope for another Kingdom he could rule, and the Anarchs being in control would have lead that to happen. He directly says this if you are a malk and imply he is cain.
Anonymous No.723603702 [Report]
>>723588613
clan quest mod is supposedly really good, I have to do it the next time I replay
Anonymous No.723603725 [Report]
Caine is a sinner, vampires are the spawn of satan, and Grunfeld was a hero
Anonymous No.723603745 [Report] >>723603852 >>723604259
>>723603425
If you think about it, most of these are typical horror movie locations. That's another reason I think VTMB has enduring fans, it taps into a universal "pulp horror" appeal that never really goes out of style. Some other vampire media takes itself too seriously and ends up being cringeworthy or twilight-esque fapfic about the curse of darkness gripping their bloodstained soul, while others aren't serious enough and feel like pure comedy with no horror atmosphere. VTMB feels like the kind of game where the next level might be legitimately unnerving, but also a spooky skeleton might pop out of the closet and start talking.
Anonymous No.723603797 [Report]
>>723603560
TO THE ABYSS WITH THEE
Anonymous No.723603852 [Report] >>723604142
>>723603745
Well said, yeah it very much is very in-tune with what sort of game and genre it's going for which very much helps the atmosphere. Sadly 2 doesn't seem to even try for this so you get a lot of same-y houses and inner-city areas
Anonymous No.723603882 [Report]
>>723603560
>when the zoomer sorc puts a 640x480 cantrip on you that lasts 24h
Anonymous No.723604007 [Report]
>>723599125
people who pre-ordered were able to get their hands on the game early
Anonymous No.723604142 [Report] >>723604284
>>723603852
It's a paradox (lol) of game budgets
Games got higher-fidelity but that means more investment in fewer assets, and less variety. RPGs back then could have a dozen different environments on a normal budget. Because every box or railing or whatever was a few primitives with a texture out of some pack.
Now you get stuff like The Outer Worlds where the objects and scenery in the last level are the same as in the first level. The only exceptions are games that cheat by using asset libraries, which makes it even worse in the long run because now every game looks the same
and the case that you actually have the budget for unique assets, you end up dumping 300 trillion dollars into modeling ultra HD sandwiches with eight sextillion triangles like Starfield.

It's a no-win situation. We must RETVRN to low poly.
Anonymous No.723604259 [Report]
>>723603745
VTMB is enduring because it establishes vampire lore that pretty much no other property develops at all. From the get-go it describes exactly how society does not know the vampires exist because that is as fundamental a question is as infrequently answered as answering how the fuck zombies win. VTMB has fucking answers for all the questions nerds have. Answers fill in the gaps that prevent something from being stupid.
Anonymous No.723604282 [Report]
>>723592484
>implying it wasn't that cunt *od being jealous that Cain and Enoch were relatively successful and he deserved continued punishment because *od is a petty bitch.
Anonymous No.723604284 [Report]
>>723604142
At the game dev company I run in my mind (I’m what you might call an “Ideas Guy”) the graphics and performance levels are determined by what was top-end tech for a PC from 10 years prior to our development beginning.
Anonymous No.723604305 [Report] >>723604396 >>723604506
assuming you'd want to stick your stake in crazy, how would you appease Therese
especially if you were a noss
Anonymous No.723604396 [Report] >>723604547
>>723604305
Therese is begging to be manhandled just like how her father would rape her. Women love men who treat them like their fathers did, unlike men who hate women that act like their mothers.
Anonymous No.723604506 [Report]
>>723604305
play daddy
Anonymous No.723604547 [Report]
>>723604396
it's funny you mention that because if you're rude to Therese all the way, she screams at you something like "I will no longer obey you, mother"

it adds an even deeper layer of "how fucked up was her family"
Anonymous No.723604709 [Report] >>723605242 >>723618656
>>723595147
Agreed, but I think that was the intention. He wants to save the PC and fulfill his self-righteous need which serves a narrative purpose, but when confronted with undeniable truth and apt comparisons he stonewalls the player and becomes hostile.
The writing does a good job of showing the hypocrisy from all angles, including the Persuasion lines from Strauss who despite wanting to supplant LaCroix, will still put his Clan and pyramid first were he to rule.
Anonymous No.723604817 [Report]
>>723594279
Any of the mods good for this? The one Age of Redemption mod looks intriguing but the one person I know who played it said it was trash.
Anonymous No.723604854 [Report]
what if Therese isn't a Malkavian and she's just genuinely that fucked up
Anonymous No.723605175 [Report] >>723605447
>>723601542
dug this up from the pre-CHICKEN JOKEY incident

https://vocaroo.com/13bRPyiKAmuR
Anonymous No.723605242 [Report] >>723605963
>>723604709
Yeah, they all have their faults, I guess the game just sort of frontloads Nines with a bunch of good stuff so its hard to see everything else. I'm doing a Tremere playthrough for the first time and it really made me see everything since I'm not really hardline for either but more myself and the clan.
Anonymous No.723605431 [Report]
>>723583470
Knew he was being treated like a joke/scapegoat when he was shunted off to LA, so he wanted to grab power and prove himself however he could.

Led to him acting like a desperate retard, to no ones real surprise.
Anonymous No.723605447 [Report] >>723605657 >>723606249
>>723605175
How can one man be so based
Anonymous No.723605504 [Report] >>723605841
>>723594279
God I loved this game growing up. Going through the medieval to modern day was amazing. The online lobbies, the mods, everything. That game is what got me into PC gaming.
Can it even still be played? I'd have lost my CD rom ages ago. I assume there are torrents for it and what not but I'm too scared to break my nostalgia goggles
Anonymous No.723605623 [Report]
>>723596473
>>723583294 (OP)
>>723596665
it obviously has to be this guy
Anonymous No.723605657 [Report] >>723605827
>>723605447
followed that link in the history and apparently there were three in total
those first few threads were truly special

https://vocaroo.com/1nkM3dOhjNM0

https://vocaroo.com/19gl2Fks60V9
Anonymous No.723605670 [Report] >>723605876 >>723606001
Its like Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, except with no hot girls.
Anonymous No.723605827 [Report]
>>723605657
Thats good
Anonymous No.723605841 [Report]
>>723605504
when I got the game I assumed it was just set in the dark ages and the CD cover was some bullshit the local black market printed

finished the game with a vocabulary fit to plap my english teacher
>scared to break my nostalgia goggles
combat is uniquely shit, invest heavily into chance to hit, and remember every party member can feed off each other if required
>the soundtrack in Vienna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMMHPy5GQhI
Anonymous No.723605876 [Report]
>>723605670
stop being a faggot for woman
Anonymous No.723605963 [Report] >>723606078 >>723606117 >>723606152
>>723605242
Nines is supposed to sound condescending (calling you “kid” all the time) and get overly emotional (how he flips out over a small insult). Then there’s the company he keeps: Damsel, a Commie cunt that needs late-stage capitalism to crush her Red pussy; Skelter, a war vet who is so terrified of his own shadow he snaps at you to whisper Caine’s name while inside an Elysium, and Jack, who is so fucking far beyond everyone else he doesn’t give two shits about who you’re butt-buddies with.

Even at the end game, Nines does nothing to help you AND claims all of your credit if you side with the Anarchs.
Anonymous No.723606001 [Report] >>723606303
>>723583294 (OP)
I will probably do another playthrough of BL1 on launch day

>>723605670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3TjwVB4VPc
Anonymous No.723606078 [Report] >>723606396
>>723605963
It was supposed to be condescending? I guess I didn't see it that way since the last time I played I was a teenager.
Anonymous No.723606117 [Report] >>723606396
>>723605963
>you're quite literally a fresh vamp
>calls you kid (essentially you're like 2 days old to the society)
Seems reasonable
Anonymous No.723606152 [Report] >>723606396
>>723605963
everyone in this game is a condescending prick towards you but that's part of the setting, new vampires have a lot to learn and usually it falls on their sire to teach them, but you don't have that privilege
Anonymous No.723606249 [Report]
>>723605447
he's legitimately the best looking Nos in the game
Anonymous No.723606303 [Report] >>723606938
>>723606001
I still listen to albums from this game all the time, to the point that I could sing along to that parody. There's only like ten songs and the edgelord albums they're from are rent free in my head forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRu-5pbn0qs
Anonymous No.723606396 [Report] >>723606435 >>723606491 >>723606530 >>723606741
>>723606078
>>723606117
>>723606152
As a member of <<<GANGREL GANG>>> I don’t respond well to being talked down to since I have this thing called “pride”. Maybe you slack-jawed faggots are okay with that, but I still have my cock and balls after being embraced.
Anonymous No.723606435 [Report]
>>723606396
pee is stored in the balls
Anonymous No.723606445 [Report] >>723606613 >>723606660 >>723606669 >>723606696
>>723583948
vmtb fags explain this to me
>vampires are clinically dead
>can't do 99,999995% of being alive unless they spend vitae(tm) to revive their bodies temporarily
>if they stop spending vitae(tm) to keep their bodies working they go back to being corpse mode, even if their bodies become fully alive, because ______________________________________________________________

>ghouls are clinically alive
>they're just humans with vitae(tm) giving them powers
>vitae isn't clinically alive, otherwise they would show up when examining vamps
>so ghouls have some weird ass dead blood tissue zipping around their bodies
>this doesn't show up or biologically affect the ghoul because ____________________________________

no seriously what the fuck is vitae(tm) and why does it do whatever the fuck it wants to do?

and quick reminder that most serious vampires (not ventrue) can survive on nonhuman blood so a self sustainable cooperative society between k*ne and kindred is perfectly possible.
Anonymous No.723606491 [Report]
>>723606396
>Gangrel has cock and balls (not dog shaped)
Fake
>Gangrel
Gay
Anonymous No.723606530 [Report] >>723607008 >>723607456
>>723606396
do you think a gangrel ever ended up with a horse cock due to their clan curse?
Anonymous No.723606613 [Report]
>>723606445
>no seriously what the fuck is vitae(tm) and why does it do whatever the fuck it wants to do?
Anonymous No.723606660 [Report] >>723606771
>>723606445
Vitae is just magic, it's the cursed blood of Kaine which received divine super powers. As for why vampires and ghouls are different it's because Vampires have their souls bound to the vitae whereas ghouls just get boosted by the vitae but are not part of it. Vampires produce vitae by themselves while ghouls lose their stored vitae over time
Anonymous No.723606669 [Report]
>>723606445
Vitae is just blood. Ghouls having blood is normal because humans always have blood. You wouldn't be able to tell anything is off unless you did clinical blood testing, not any more than you'd be able to look at someone and see they have sickle cell anemia.
Vampires have to drink blood because they don't produce blood.

>why does it do whatever the fuck it wants to do?
Because God made it do that. (just like everything else in the universe)
Anonymous No.723606696 [Report]
>>723606445
this post was made by a Hunter
Anonymous No.723606741 [Report]
>>723606396
>a furry with pride
Stop the fucking presses!
Anonymous No.723606771 [Report]
>>723606660
>Khaine
and this post was made by a changeling
Anonymous No.723606938 [Report]
>>723606303
if I go will you follow
me through the cracks and hollow
and I will be your "cain"
Anonymous No.723607008 [Report] >>723607116 >>723607285 >>723607480
>>723606530
definitely happened in someone's pen and paper session, this game's full of gooners
Anonymous No.723607116 [Report]
>>723607008
For a second I thought the penis was the one talking
Anonymous No.723607159 [Report]
it's been a nice thread but the sun will be up soon, lighty light
Anonymous No.723607186 [Report] >>723607218 >>723607402 >>723608074 >>723608219
vampires shouldn't even be able to get it up since they're dead, except maybe for tremere
Anonymous No.723607218 [Report]
>>723607186
blush of life is a thing
Anonymous No.723607285 [Report] >>723607537
>>723607008
I haven’t thought about Boy Blue in decades. Wow.
Anonymous No.723607323 [Report]
Yeah, yeah cool magic trick, nerd.
So anyway, I hit him with a baseball bat.
Anonymous No.723607402 [Report] >>723607440
>>723607186
Tremere are beyond such trivialities as "getting it up". If I wanted a boner I'd conjure several hundred of them in you're mom's house. I'd reshape the blood of sixty-six virgins into a gateway to the Plane of Elemental Dicks and derive the Cocksmith's Stone that transmutes the fabric of spacetime from flaccid to erect. This is entry level stuff.
Anonymous No.723607440 [Report] >>723607538
>>723607402
>*hits u with a baseball bat*
Anonymous No.723607456 [Report]
>>723606530
>Meet cute gangrel girl
>She's cursed with a hyena pseudo penis
Anonymous No.723607480 [Report]
>>723607008
Anonymous No.723607537 [Report] >>723609020
>>723607285
I do at least once a year. Not because I'm a gooner but because I actually like Kevin Taylor's artstyle
Anonymous No.723607538 [Report]
>>723607440
delete this
Anonymous No.723608023 [Report] >>723608140 >>723608326 >>723608602
why did the anarchs just let the camarilla back into LA without a fight?
Anonymous No.723608074 [Report]
>>723607186
if they can move the rest of their body's muscles surely the genitals should be movable too
Anonymous No.723608121 [Report] >>723608373
>>723584523
Clan Quest
Anonymous No.723608140 [Report]
>>723608023
Californians are pussies
Anonymous No.723608219 [Report]
>>723607186
what is stopping a tzimisce from grafting a whole guy to use as his personal penis? that one should get up since it's alive
Anonymous No.723608276 [Report] >>723608380 >>723608692 >>723610736
>>723583294 (OP)
>Even fledgeling vampire superior to the majority of hunters, even hunters from the church
Even taking the above in consideration, how well do vampires hold up to tracer fire?
Anonymous No.723608326 [Report]
>>723608023
Anarchs can't actually do shit about shit, they're always weak and unorganized. The Free State one a single war then became an unwitting Camarilla asset to fight the Sabbat and hunters for them like every other anarch group becomes.
Anonymous No.723608373 [Report]
>>723608121
The Blood the last vampire ref comes full circle.
Anonymous No.723608380 [Report] >>723608563 >>723608951
>>723608276
Out fledgling vampire is OP as shit, hunters are an extreme threat to all neonates especially Society of Leopold niggas that might have access to True Faith
Anonymous No.723608563 [Report]
>>723608380
>Out fledgling vampire
Did you have a stroke while writing that?
Anonymous No.723608602 [Report]
>>723608023
Because even if they have the numbers advantage they're severely disorganized.
Anonymous No.723608692 [Report] >>723608835 >>723608849 >>723608861
>>723608276
I don't know what the lore has to say but my thinking is that vampires are dead but their physical bodies still follow the rules of bodies in that you need all your parts to continue being a human - muscles matter. Enough bullets are going to shred enough nerves and muscles that you simply cannot move anymore. Your muscles can do more and move faster to be sure, but a bullet doesn't care and healing isn't fast enough.

This is why werewolves always win - because they have more physical mass, like elephants.

Hunters would know to group and and pack enough firepower to stop a vampire. Realistically they would be so good at hunting that they don't die as it would be so difficult to replace a member. The vampires' disadvantage is really their crippling paranoia that prevents them from actually trusting each other enough to withstand a group of Hunters.
Anonymous No.723608835 [Report]
>>723608692
>he vampires' disadvantage is really their crippling paranoia that prevents them from actually trusting each other enough to withstand a group of Hunters
Thats part off why parties of player characters in VtM are so strong. Its a group that works for mutual benefit and gets past the bullshit for the most part.
Anonymous No.723608849 [Report]
>>723608692
He asked about tracer rounds, anon. Tracer rounds are bullets with a burning block of magnesium fused into their tail. A regular FMJ wouldn't cause that much overall damage to an undead vampire, meaning you would have to dismember one with a chainsaw of full auto fire. A single tracer on the other hand would invoke a vampire's 10X weakness to fire.
Anonymous No.723608861 [Report] >>723609062 >>723611517
>>723608692
>The vampires' disadvantage is really their crippling paranoia that prevents them from actually trusting each other enough to withstand a group of Hunters.
Yeah that's the curse of caine, the eternal fear of your own blood kin stabbing you in the back. Vampires are basically humans who can't socialize and lose most of the advantages of being human as a result.
Anonymous No.723608947 [Report]
>>723596867
he's a evil serial killer with a cajun accent that uses blood claws and hunts people down by their heartbeat
Anonymous No.723608951 [Report] >>723609151 >>723609176 >>723609795
>>723608380
what is stopping a fledgling from using True Faith himself (in tabletop)
Anonymous No.723609020 [Report]
>>723607537
His artwork has a Tzimisce quality to it. At a casual glance it appears aesthetically pleasing. The more you look at it, however, you notice something about it that triggers the senses which detects something is grotesque.
Anonymous No.723609062 [Report]
>>723608861
So theyre super autists? That... makes too much sense. And each clan is a different flavor of autistic.
Anonymous No.723609151 [Report]
>>723608951
Vamps are sort of separated from the divine so its rare for them to have it.
Anonymous No.723609176 [Report] >>723609442
>>723608951
Realistically, if your faith was that intense and you get turned into a vampire your worldview would be shaken at least for some time. VTM is ultimately a game about storytelling so a character who developed that powerful of a connection with their faith, lost it, then regained it, must have gone through a very long and arduous story already. i.e. they're an endgame character. You don't just wake up one day as the patron saint of Cainites.
Anonymous No.723609442 [Report] >>723609621 >>723609625
>>723609176
At that point you would just achieve Golconda, no?
Anonymous No.723609621 [Report]
>>723609442
If you reached Faith rating 10 you could simply cleanse yourself of the embrace and become mortal again. But that's like Jesus Christ tier miracles. Healing the sick with a touch and so on
Anonymous No.723609625 [Report]
>>723609442
Golconda is about having such a high humanity you purge yourself of the Beast through an excruciating process. True Faith is having a devotion to a higher metaphysical power. Though they aren’t mutually exclusive both would take up so much of your time it would be nearly impossible to fulfill both, especially with how esoteric the processes are and the total lack of information available to either concept in-setting.
Anonymous No.723609795 [Report] >>723610057 >>723612172
>>723608951
On a fundamental level, True Faith at all stages is an unshakable belief in God. You only need to look at the world and realize there just aren't a lot of people out there like that. Because most people don't have their faith tested in a real way. I don't mean recovering from a loss or praying away a problem - I mean genuinely believing God has your back in this matter 100% and not letting ideas about reality get in the way of that.

Like this would have to be the situation - someone with potential for True Faith gets turned and they do not despair at all because they still think God has their back. You just got raped, mutilated, tortured, killed and brought back only for your abuser to inform you that you are now a slave and evidently because you cannot resist any commands from them. To feel a deep love for God at that moment is basically non-existent. Because all there would be is doubt. And doubt is basically unacceptable in regards to True Faith unlike normal philosophical religious study.
Anonymous No.723609812 [Report] >>723610239 >>723610298
>>723598549
>you download the unofficial patch and that's it.
which one
Anonymous No.723610057 [Report] >>723610926
>>723609795
>You just got raped, mutilated, tortured, killed and brought back only for your abuser to inform you that you are now a slave and evidently because you cannot resist any commands from them. To feel a deep love for God at that moment is basically non-existent.
Yeah it'd be so rare that if anyone managed this they'd go down in history, canonized as a saint at the very least, perhaps even hailed as the second coming. Even Jesus H. Christ lost his temper and had doubts sometimes. I mean, the embrace is the curse of Caine. Imagine how hard it'd be for Caine himself to bring himself so much closer to God that he becomes like Christ. it's practically unthinkable. You'd be a legendary figure at the end of a very long and difficult story. Antedilluvians would be afraid of what you represent.
Anonymous No.723610239 [Report]
>>723609812
For your perusal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggRDXXmxhvI
Anonymous No.723610298 [Report] >>723610438
>>723609812
The one from vesp5 or something. Just be sure to try the basic patch first, the plus has some additions of reputable quality and I heard the other one, the one from Tessera doesn't run well on modern machines.
Anonymous No.723610380 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
Will pirate and buy it if I deem it good enough
Anonymous No.723610438 [Report]
>>723610298
>reputable
Oops, my mistake. I meant dubious. Fucks too much with the balance and rewards.
Anonymous No.723610736 [Report] >>723610863
>>723608276
Tracers aren't incendiary ammunition. Are they? /k/ommandos pls advise.
Anyways, actual incendiary ammunition kills them even deader than buckshot.
Anonymous No.723610863 [Report]
>>723610736
incendiary rounds are tracers with just even more magnesium, and armor piercing incendiary rounds have tungsten points and magnesium tails. Literally business in front and party in the back.
Also /k/ is gay
Anonymous No.723610926 [Report] >>723611343
>>723610057
The interesting thing about Caine is that he has the easiest path to salvation - he only has to apologize. And the depth of the curse is that this basic thing is impossible for Caine and that's if you're #1, every other vampire can't achieve this and more.

I like thinking that True Faith is in itself a form of insanity, albeit one with upsides. Because to have this kind of faith you would have to continue to believe God is there and without God doing anything that can be clearly interpreted as God doing something. Being a vampire introduces a lot of fucking truth to the childe. And it's that truth that prevents faith from getting any foothold. The vampire learns so much about the world upon turning.

I think it would be an interesting story to have a recently-turned vampire fall into the hands of the Society of Leopold, the opposite of Bloodlines' story. Because having True Faith the members could attempt to teach the vampire about the world without having to suffer unjustly in the learning. And it wouldn't work, but they don't stop trying. Because in controlled circumstances you could tell a vampire that their paranoia is their curse and if you give them a wholly safe existence they could be "normal" in a way. I can imagine someone taking a deal like that - total safety from the vampire horrors you know exists but you are living in isolation from all society. Blood is provided and housekeeping is your profession but your guardians are of True Faith and it burns to be around them - but it beats being on the street.
Anonymous No.723611343 [Report] >>723611418 >>723611871
>>723610926
>he only has to apologize
It's hard to apologize when you think you're on the right.
"Taking the higher road" is not always an option.
Anonymous No.723611402 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
the only correct option is to do the opposite of what every ventrue tells you - you can't trust those cunts
i will buy bloodlines 2
- signed, brujah
Anonymous No.723611418 [Report]
>>723611343
*when you're right
Anonymous No.723611486 [Report]
Miss muh Cappos
Anonymous No.723611517 [Report] >>723611658
>>723608861
Nosferatu can. They are true brothers.
Anonymous No.723611658 [Report] >>723612050
>>723611517
they are hated by literally everyone else though who thinks the nossies are scheming against them (even when they're not)
Anonymous No.723611749 [Report] >>723612208 >>723614124
Rate female PCs as waifus
Anonymous No.723611871 [Report]
>>723611343
The high road is not available for sociopaths, which is what Caine is and what the curse inflicts on all vampires. That's why it is so rare for a vampire to rise, because it is just as difficult for a sociopath to reform themselves. And any vampire that comes close to regaining some scrap of their humanity is likely killed because that sort of behavior is weak and a vulnerability.

We can't understand the mind of a sociopath, and I liken it to Caine not being able to grasp that a sincere apology is all that is needed. God told him, explicitly, that all he has to do is be sorry for killing his brother and he just can't fucking do it. He cares so little for his offspring that he won't muster a mere feeling to alleviate an immense amount of suffering.
Anonymous No.723612050 [Report] >>723613849
>>723611658
That's precisely why they stick together.
Anonymous No.723612172 [Report] >>723612979
>>723609795
Don't Vampires instinctively feel intense fear when faced with someone with True Faith either presenting a Cross or telling them to fuck off? Along with a degree of immunity from many disciplines that alter mental status. The Lower their humanity the worse the fear is. So someone manifesting True Faith wouldn't really have your scenario occur.

Simple intense belief also isn't just what True Faith is. It's sort of a Chicken and the Egg scenario. Those with True Faith are partially born into it. Like how lots of Saints will have stories of miraculous events around their birth. Also sometimes God fucks with people who aren't even really that faithful because he thinks they're suitable for something. You likewise have instances of people with the character of True Faith not really getting the reciprocal powers for it because God needs to do a thing.
Anonymous No.723612208 [Report]
>>723611749
1>>>All
Anonymous No.723612402 [Report]
>>723588109
respect the fit lil bro
Anonymous No.723612732 [Report]
>>723597546
There are in fact plenty of city gangrel
Anonymous No.723612979 [Report] >>723614249
>>723612172
Low level True Faith requires the bearer to be conscious of harming a vampire. In most cases a vampire can simply kill the bearer. Only the highest level of True Faith fucks up vampires by simply existing and you have to imagine the vampire isn't stupid enough to confront these people.

I don't view it as simply intense belief. It's intense belief in something that's real - namely God. And it's not just God but that specific God, the God that is Jesus and not the God of the old testament. There are lots of paths to God, which is why True Faith can manifest in people regardless of religion. I don't feel as though God has a direct hand in creating saints and stuff; I don't think it is good for this setting to have definitive proof God's hand moves things. True Faith is not God actively helping people - it's a mechanism God put in place as a counterbalance to the incredibly shitty thing he inflicted on humanity that is the curse. The VTMB God is just playing with far more vile negative forces than our world's God, whose worst works are greed, dementia and smallpox.
Anonymous No.723613419 [Report] >>723613451 >>723613995 >>723617156
LETS DANCE
Anonymous No.723613451 [Report]
>>723613419
Every clan should have a unique dance animation.
Anonymous No.723613481 [Report] >>723613912
>>723583470
He was homosexual I think
Anonymous No.723613742 [Report] >>723613828 >>723614768 >>723615293
I will NEVER forgive CCP for cancelling WoD MMO
Reminder that everyone did their job well except the retarded management, who restarted the whole project multiple times for stupid arbitrary reasons
Anonymous No.723613828 [Report] >>723614218 >>723614768
>>723613742
If this came out in the mid 2000s it'd be an absolute den of erotic roleplay
Anonymous No.723613849 [Report]
>>723612050
No. Niktuku.
Anonymous No.723613912 [Report]
>>723613481
He definitely liked girthy objects in his ass. V5 confirmed it.
Anonymous No.723613953 [Report]
Cain is allowed to drive a taxi! the dmv says so!
Anonymous No.723613995 [Report] >>723614102 >>723614295
>>723613419
SOVL btw does the TCR version still has this or did it get cut?
Anonymous No.723614102 [Report]
>>723613995
Cut probably, too goofy for them
Anonymous No.723614124 [Report]
>>723611749
>no nosferato
>he dons't want a hacker rat eating gf
your loss
Anonymous No.723614163 [Report] >>723614301
Do Hunters still exist?
Anonymous No.723614180 [Report]
is the world of darkness universe just cursed
Anonymous No.723614218 [Report]
>>723613828
I was gonna say this looks like a porn game.
Anonymous No.723614249 [Report]
>>723612979
>It's intense belief in something that's real
You can believe in the power of the almighty dollar and still harm vampires
Anonymous No.723614295 [Report]
>>723613995
Of course it's cut, can't have fun
Anonymous No.723614301 [Report] >>723614347
>>723614163
In the game or setting? If its the game I have no idea nor do I care to, In the setting, fuck yes.
Anonymous No.723614347 [Report] >>723614717
>>723614301
Setting
Anonymous No.723614364 [Report] >>723614534
Why did no one attempt to make a Changeling vidya?
Even Wraith got a VR game
Anonymous No.723614534 [Report]
>>723614364
The Irish governments has rape squads for anyone that made video games about the fae, fairies like fairy tale shit and fae enemies in games get a pass but a designated game about them gets you a cold iron truncheon up the ass.
Anonymous No.723614553 [Report]
True faith and magic seems awfully familiar in the sense of how humanity can bend the world to their will. Fairies, furries and the undead need not apply since their powers comes from non human sources
Anonymous No.723614717 [Report]
>>723614347
Oh yeah back in I think 08 The Coalition (Hunter Organization) fucking raided Tremere headquarters in Vienna and killed most of their elders after breaching the SchreckNet (Vamp internet thing)
Anonymous No.723614731 [Report]
i will pirate it
Anonymous No.723614768 [Report] >>723616090
>>723613742
>>723613828
It would've been glorious
https://youtu.be/_zELAknQ82k?si=TMD4bsSeJWkKz2K4&t=4761
Anonymous No.723615293 [Report] >>723615438
>>723613742
Funny how this pic has more atmosphere than the new game.
Anonymous No.723615438 [Report] >>723615748 >>723616093
>>723615293
WoD MMO art and visuals team was amazing
Anonymous No.723615483 [Report] >>723615748 >>723616093
Anonymous No.723615526 [Report] >>723615748 >>723616093 >>723617593
Anonymous No.723615650 [Report]
Shame we never got that, it looks good.
Anonymous No.723615721 [Report] >>723617976
>>723585230
>The Diocletian of Kindred
Based
Anonymous No.723615748 [Report]
>>723615438
>>723615483
>>723615526
That would of been so cool.
Anonymous No.723616015 [Report] >>723616875
How the fuck do you even maintain the masquerade in the digital age?
Anonymous No.723616090 [Report]
>>723614768
>they gave this up for a failed excel spreadsheet simulator
Anonymous No.723616093 [Report]
>>723615438
>>723615483
>>723615526
They should try again but with the guys behind Bloodhunt, I loved the matrix-esque traversal movement in this game. Sometimes you can even find some players roleplaying in the lobbies
Anonymous No.723616102 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
Why? Cuz you lose in this game? LMAO
Anonymous No.723616459 [Report] >>723621082
How should I level up?
Anonymous No.723616646 [Report]
>>723595592
Surely this is satire my dear
Anonymous No.723616875 [Report]
>>723616015
You don't. That's the point.
You cower in fear of the Second Inquisition, and you lean heavily on incredulity. "It's Photoshop! It's AI! It's staged!"
Anonymous No.723617035 [Report] >>723617417
>>723583294 (OP)
Stygian Legions, Soul forge this nigger into a brick.
Anonymous No.723617156 [Report]
>>723613419
I will now buy your game + tip
Anonymous No.723617245 [Report] >>723617337 >>723617412
>>723583470
Strauss was always the better leader, how the fuck did LaCroix become leader?
Anonymous No.723617296 [Report] >>723623907
>>723583539
crazy how we had better lighting in bideo james 20 years ago. now its flat, opposite of comfy and terribly color graded
Anonymous No.723617337 [Report]
>>723617245
See >>723593170
Anonymous No.723617392 [Report]
>>723583470
Anonymous No.723617412 [Report]
>>723617245
>voluntarily becoming prince
Lacroix even spells it out for brainlets like you.
Anonymous No.723617417 [Report] >>723618027
>>723617035
QRD?
Anonymous No.723617576 [Report]
>>723596126
That thing's a chick?
Anonymous No.723617593 [Report]
>>723615526
everyone would play as women
Anonymous No.723617650 [Report]
>>723595592
These animations feel so lifeless, I know their vampires but come the fuck on.
Anonymous No.723617976 [Report]
>>723615721
Diocletian still participated in government work to some degree years after abdication. He abdicated to see if the tetrarchy lives on without him. At least his adoptive grandson came out on top.
Anonymous No.723618027 [Report] >>723618505
>>723617417
All other WoD games except maybe Mage are stupid because they are written in adherence to the ported over rpg mechanics original to VtM.
This means things that are cool and make sense for vampires, like clans or the Camarilla, are forced into other things, like ghosts, where it comes off as fucking stupid.

So that entire cool segment of the VtM:B where you're entering the haunted house and uncovering the Shining reference murder ghost and victims is basically one massive Dictum Mortuum violation and under the concept of Wraith:The Oblivion, if Therese didn't deal with the issue via the ritual with the necklace, The ghost police would by turning the axe murderer into a sofa cushion.
Anonymous No.723618359 [Report] >>723618426 >>723618827
What are the likelihoods of a decent WoD film/show being made focusing on either vampires or human-vampire interaction via hunters and mages with either a creeping up or sudden "Oh holy shit" conflict of werewolves appearing and being in their proper brutal overpowering ways? I'd like more werewolf stuff that's not *just* mandog or big dog but actually pulls on their fae-touched side with totems, delirium, pacts, the Umbra and all that jazz. I want them to be proper powerhouses and not just spooky big dog.
Anonymous No.723618426 [Report] >>723618576
>>723618359
>What are the likelihoods of a decent WoD film/show
0%
Anonymous No.723618505 [Report] >>723618614
>>723618027
Why didn't they? That dude was an asshole and it happened like 50 years before she bought the property.
Anonymous No.723618576 [Report]
>>723618426
Fuck. We're cursed in and out of vidya.
Anonymous No.723618614 [Report]
>>723618505
Because that's not how WoD works.
Anonymous No.723618656 [Report]
>>723604709
>including the Persuasion lines from Strauss who despite wanting to supplant LaCroix, will still put his Clan and pyramid first were he to rule.
Strauss was trying to persuade me? what lines? sorry im autistic
Anonymous No.723618827 [Report] >>723619032
>>723618359
There is Hunter: The Parenting by the dudes that did TTS.
Anonymous No.723619009 [Report]
>>723584379
>What's the point of local vampires fighting each other off?
Tell me you don't have a clue about the setting without telling me you don't have a clue about the setting.
Anonymous No.723619032 [Report] >>723619126 >>723619562
>>723618827
Artstyle is buttugly, but I respect the effort.
Anonymous No.723619051 [Report]
i will buy it next year for $10 on a key site
Anonymous No.723619126 [Report]
>>723619032
It takes some getting adjusted to but far as an animation goes, their stuff is probably the best you'll get far as actual fan quality work goes that sticks to the books pretty well. Far as I know anyways, but I sure as shit haven't heard of any alternative yet for something even similar.
Anonymous No.723619294 [Report]
>WoD MMO died in the womb
>Matrix Online died after a mere 4 years
>Secret World... whatever happened there
I feel like an Urban Fantasy/Sci-fi MMO could really work but
Anonymous No.723619562 [Report]
>>723619032
It differs, that pic was from the first episode and its a frame from an action scene.
Anonymous No.723620034 [Report] >>723621084
>>723597204
Sex but with Gangrel girls
Anonymous No.723621082 [Report] >>723624001
>>723616459
It's been a while since I played it but I remember dexterity is #1 priority because you need your whole team to land hits and then I went minimum Str 50 to equip late game gear then after that I started maxing out disciplines
Anonymous No.723621084 [Report] >>723621268
>>723620034
i need a gf who wears band tees and converse even in bed. oh also she has to be a vampire.
Anonymous No.723621268 [Report] >>723621294
>>723621084
you forgot the ripped jeans
Anonymous No.723621294 [Report]
>>723621268
oh right yes. that too. they have to be low rise though
Anonymous No.723621367 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
Is that game finally coming out? I was pleased to hear about it when it was first announced but I don't have high expectations due to the development hell it has gone through.
Anonymous No.723622038 [Report]
>>723583294 (OP)
>I've said all I needed to for now.
Anonymous No.723622140 [Report] >>723622178
>>723583294 (OP)
Which modes do I need for VtMB1?
Anonymous No.723622178 [Report] >>723622290
>>723622140
>Which modes
Just go in on default and pick a clan you like
Anonymous No.723622290 [Report] >>723622340
>>723622178
Don't I need a fix at least?
Anonymous No.723622340 [Report]
>>723622290
Nah, it was perfectly stable when I played it.
Anonymous No.723622376 [Report]
>>723583470

He was stick and tired of having to bow down to people he thought were inferior to him, from Napoleon to the Camarilla, he wanted to be his own man and took a shot at greatness.

It blew up in his face.
Anonymous No.723622387 [Report]
>>723595592
good morning sar i very good animator thank you for choosing my companee sar *bobs head*
Anonymous No.723623309 [Report]
>>723593046
I'm pretty sure that's a sponsored project so it's blurring the line of fan and official.
They've also worked with PDX on another occasion to make the thinly veiled cast of TTS plays stellaris thing.
Anonymous No.723623507 [Report]
>>723599736
>fuck the jyhad
>turns into mist
>turns into a crow and flies away
>tanks the sun
>become soil
gangrel seem to be pretty bad at fighting but really good at not getting killed
Anonymous No.723623860 [Report]
A vamp game set in the last years before ww1 europe could be cool.
Anonymous No.723623907 [Report]
>>723617296
theres just an allergy towards high contrast and baked lighting nowadays for some reason
Anonymous No.723623975 [Report]
>>723595592
For me it's the static camera shots.
They could've hidden some of the mess by using shaky camera. No time, I suppose.
Anonymous No.723624001 [Report]
>>723621082
K, thanks for the info.
Anonymous No.723624526 [Report]
>>723584379
it's a joke
the game literally makes fun of vtm redemption plot
Anonymous No.723625040 [Report] >>723625672 >>723625776
How the FUCK did this thread hit bump limit without this?
Anonymous No.723625672 [Report]
>>723625040
no one talked about how shitty v5 was
Anonymous No.723625776 [Report]
>>723625040
does sickle cell blood taste differently?