Thread 723620954

>>723620954 (OP)
Im not a millennial but I just like killing stuff

>>723621401
Braindead trash for retards

>>723621482
Why are you so mad about it? what would you have me play instead?

>>723620954 (OP)
thousand times more soul and skill required to master than any soulslop

>>723620954 (OP)
>zoomers be like: YOOOOO I HECKING LOVE BLACKS

>>723620954 (OP)
>>723621482
I never came across Painkiller or seen any gameplay, it looks like a Quake mod.

>>723620954 (OP)
This and Serious Sam was basically
>What if Doom but no level design.

>>723621630
Mutt law

>>723621663
Hell, modern Doom is basically just "what if Doom but no leveldesign and also the presentation was just the first two pages of the Doom comic over and over"

>>723621663
1 and its expansion had some semblance of level design and some clever segments. Further itinerations are whatever.

What's the point

>fight the same boss and kill him a bunch of times
>suddenly one identical boss is immortal
Quality game
How can the reboot live up to it?

>>723621786
To stay with OP's words
>bots be like

>>723621786
Training spambots for engagement

>mfw having multiple threads about a game open and seeing my post in one thread be copied and pasted verbatim in the other threads by someone elsee

>>723621752

>great now add slight cartoon filter and colourful gems...

>>723620954 (OP)
>YOOOOOO THIS GAME IS FIRE FR FR
Literally zoomer phrases. You retarded?

>>723620954 (OP)
Spambots be like: YOOOO THIS BAIT IS FIIIRE, LET ME POST THIS AGAIN FR FR

>>723620954 (OP)
I don't get the appeal of Painkiller. Anons shit on Witchfire for being a roguelite instead of Painkiller 2 but even with roguefaggotry it mops the floor with Painkiller at any department.
Guns are more fun.
Combat is more exciting.
Encounters are more interesting.
Enemies have way better behaviors.
Bosses aren't cancer.
Maaaaybe you can think music is better but me personally don't like that kind of metal. Witchfire ambience music is whatever.

>>723622094
I don't get this mentality. Why can't people like something just because something "better" might exist?

>>723621640
the multiplayer actually had a short lived competitive scene as it was seen as a esport replacement for quake 3, alot of q3 pros transfered to painkiller

>>723622094
>painkiller (2004)
>witchfire (2024)

>>723620954 (OP)
Yea.

>>723622204
Because that something is TRASH.

>>723622094
I hate how it looks
particles diharrea

>>723622294
In your opinion.

>>723622204
To be fair, anon doesn't make any actual points and is just mindlessly glazing the other game with no elaboration so I can't blame you for not understanding.

>>723622269
*2026

>>723622316
Physics*

>>723622269
*grabs you by the horns*
Bad time posting this when I'm horny, I'll have to teach you a lesson.

>>723620954 (OP)
Painkiller was never popular for a reason.

>>723622330
And my opinion is right.

>>723622412
and what's the reason?

>>723622431
sure, but it isn't factual.

>>723620954 (OP)
This is still my favorite FPS from that year

>>723620954 (OP)
>YOOOOOO THIS GAME IS FIRE
I think like this and I say exactly this
Shooting differently looking demons while THIS plays was amazing and I love Painkiller to this very day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDuZ-p8fO10

They don't make games like this anymore for some reason
This new Cringekiller with reddit characters and grey (literally) enemies which you can't even see because of all the cool EFFECTS AND TONS OF BLOOD YEAH HAHA THIS JELLY LOOKING BLOOD IS SO BADASS sucks ass and looks very generic. It looks like second hand zoom cringeternal
See how OG Painkiller didn't need so much blood, but it was still visceral and cool

>>723620954 (OP)
yeah idk why anyone would like painkiller in a world where every other FPS franchise exists.

>>723622436
There were better FPS back then and the setting wasn't that interesting to begin with.

Just like Doom Eternal except not ableist and for racist whites that like hard games

>>723621640
>I never came across Painkiller
Unfortunate
>a Quake mod
How would you know? You're literally 16

>>723621663
Yeah, at least SS is fun with friends.

>no reload management
B O R I N G

>>723622541
I don't see how better or worse has any significance in popularity

I used to tell people that I loved/played painkiller because I thought it made me look cool, but I was too afraid to play gory/scary games, so I never even played it

Glad to know the game was trash

>>723621626
What's the point of this video?
>look, I try to kill a slow and undead enemy which can only be killed with a level gimmick
It's a puzzle of sorts, you don't even need to shoot him

>>723621972
Do you even watch what you post?
The video in your post looks absolutely fine and shows good gameplay

Is it an actual bot or what?

>>723622412
>if it's not as popular as gaylo or nfl that means it wasn't popular at all
Nigger

Post more of this "bad game"

>>723622559
>zoomers need tactical reloads in an arcade shooter
Sad

>>723621972
>keep missing shots to a huge ass slow enemy moving on a straight line while coming to cry about bad games caps-locking to a taiwanese basket weaving forum
youre embarrasing, kill yourself

>>723620954 (OP)
This is like complaining about putting down cards on the table in poker.

>>723620954 (OP)
And it absolutely was.

>>723620954 (OP)
>Not jumping around frantically while gibbing grunts with painkiller
Playing the game badly on purpose and wasting ammo doesn't prove any points you disingenuous faggot

>>723622559
>reloading is a heckin great mechanic AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE IT'S HECKIN REALISTIC NUH UH

>>723622849
>boomie can't into anything but romeroSlop
many such cases

>>723622517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL8lCw2NCVU

Painkiller has the same art direction as early 2010 shooters in that it's all shades of one color. The game is boring to look at. Combine that with the repetitive gameplay, the enemies that lack any personality and the unsatisfying guns, and it's a game that's just designed to put you to sleep.

>>723622925
Yes
Aggressively reloading is an art in itself, especially in actually good horde games
https://youtu.be/KZZ81fp9nnE?si=8iQh2yo1UzfuCitp

>>723620954 (OP)
Game was fine, u just have shit taste

>>723620954 (OP)
Damn, Millenials got some good taste

>boomers actually thought this was amazing gameplay in 2004
Doom Eternal saved the FPS genre from slowslop garbage like this.

Painkiller was the Doom of that time, kino game, maybe I should replay it

Braindead trash for retards

>>723623330
On Tourist difficulty? I agree.

>>723622925
Yes
https://youtube.com/shorts/Mfrvu0Z_DMU?si=AHr3Q5OnzfQYF3ev
>>723623280
>>723623330
All of OP webms are Trauma mode

>>723623281
>Painkiller was the Doom of that time
Not even close

>>723623618
Actual Doom III was pretty disappointing cause it wasn't really a cool shooter but an attempt at horror.

>>723621540
You're better than asking some zoomer turnip for game recommendations, bro

It's funny because the new one looks quite good and old painkiller fags are like "noooooooo it's different to the original" and then this is what the original is. Lol

>>723620954 (OP)
still better than CoDslop and soulsslop

>>723622263
huh, that's pretty cool

>>723623662
>it wasn't really a cool shooter but an attempt at horror
Doom was always horror.

>>723622997
Ooooh yisssss, ambient music was outstanding there too
This is my favorite one, I love this level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEyZl_akDag
Opera house in hell, that's some fucking novel concept. And a cool one

>>723621401
I would assume that you are also braindead given the gameplay

>>723623612
How many times did you rerun this scenario to get the RNG to suck your dick?
I'm genuinely curious.

>>723623662
>an attempt at horror
A successfull "attempt"

>>723621482
>>723620954 (OP)
Where are the souls?

>>723623904
My favorite level is Babel. Absolute kino music.

>>723623662
Doom 3 has its moments.

>>723623896
Not after you realize you can sprint forever.

>>723623778
I have no love for Painkiller but the new one is about as "good" as other recent AA horde shooter attempts (Back 4 Blood, Redfall, FBC Firebreak). The Painkiller name has no prestige associated with it and the new game isn't going to change that.

>>723623979
Disabled on the highest difficulty.

Huh, turns out I remember those levels way better than I though.
Instantly recognized most of the stuff.

>>723620954 (OP)
https://youtu.be/XksTBAp3Eac?si=HimtW3YAOdNFdjtH

I enjoyed Doom and Blood back when I played them, but always thought that Painkiller was bad, and Serious Sam was terrible.

>>723620954 (OP)
god I need to replay this game

>>723620954 (OP)
>>Millennials be like: YOOOOOO THIS GAME IS FIRE FR FR
millennials don't speak like that. at least get their lingo right if you want to shitpost

>>723620954 (OP)
I played and enjoyed Painkiller when I was younger, but looking back on it I can't help but feel like I was wowed by the graphics and physics combined with the level and enemy variety

the actual gameplay doesn't hold up, it really feels like the lazy Doom mods you would get where they would just spawn in enemies at complete random locations without through or care

>>723624003
that's modded

>>723624003
Yea it had and looking back it was a good game but you have to understand that it was the time when gaming was at its peak, so the game lost to many other better games.
>>723623974
A successful attempt would be SH3 that game out one year before.
Doom 3 really didn't invent anything new and the engine was pretty weird especially compared to Source. Not to mention it was not what people were looking for in fucking DOOM.

>>723623993
>Babel
I like that level, yes, and those enemies with scimitars
Painkiller is very good at conveying that unsettling atmosphere of abandoned places that look like people lived there, but now it's empty dreamish hell locations with no one but demons there
I also like the final level, Hell
>In Painkiller, Hell is looking very differently from it's typical depiction. Instead of giant, volcanic cavers full of fire and flames it is depicted as gray, rocky planes with hills that are filled with depictions of humanity's worst catastrophes and wars frozen in time.
That's fucking metal

>>723624282
>>723624305
DELETE THIS
MUH HECKIN' BOOMER SHOOTERS WERE LE FAST PACED BROOTAL DOOM AND EPIC TAKEDOWNS IN SMALL ARENAS

>>723624505
That's just a beta model for shotgun

>>723624798
Go to bed, grandpa.

>>723624793
I like how Hell looks and feel in Painkiller as level but in gameplay it is little underwhelming

>>723624623
>the engine was pretty weird especially compared to Source
Only zoomers or village boomers who only got the access to a PC in the mid 2010s can say that
Doom 3 engine was fucking fantastic
Sure, Source turned out to be more versatile, but it was a great time technology wise. Far Cry, Doom 3 and HL2. All had their own and cool engines

>>723624872
Beautiful, so fucking beautiful.

>>723621602
So these are the kind of bitter boomers that worship old janky dogshit seething about Soulskino in every thread

>>723625005
Doom 3 had a lot of issues with open spaces, one of the main reasons the entirety of 3 was just rooms.
>Far Cry
Yea cool engine

>>723623662
The attempt at horror wasnt the problem, IMO. It was that it wasn't particularly good at it.

>>723624872
>I show first enemies on first levels
>this is somehow bad
Ehhhh?
I don't even get what you are trying to achieve

>>723625056
That was just bullshit people made up and was debunked with Quake 4.

>>723625090
It was pretty mediocre yea. Not that bad but painfully forgettable.

>>723625114
There's a reason why nobody really used it

>>723625005
I always notice that the Doom3 hate comes from zoomers.
I love the og games and played D3 on release and it's honestly still a good game.

who the fuck remembers or cares about painkiller?
did some zoomie youtube influencer make a gay video essay about it or something?

>>723621663
The enemies are the level design. Those games were inspired by danmaku.

Also lol it wasn't bullshit, you could make your own maps for Doom 3 and it was obvious that the engine cannot handle them.
Q4 used a pretty modified version.

>>723625189
No it's not

>>723625274
Explain why it's bad without using buzzwords.

>>723625056
>>723625160
Quake 1 and 2 were "rooms" too. And?
What's your argument even?
And yeah, Quake 4 exists

>>723620954 (OP)
I'm moderately confident they would not yell yo, would not describe anything as "is fire", and would not end their sentence with a double occurrence of the ISO 3166 for France instead of a period.

With that said, I played Painkiller when it was new, it was fine, but I still prefer Serious Sam.

>>723625160
That was John Carmack. He wasn't really all that interested in licensing idTech 4. He did practically everything he could to sabotage it. Apparently he was not happy about how much time he had wasted supporting idTech 3 due to how popular it was and he didn't want to go through that again with idTech 4.

>>723625295
The Quake engine just didn't have such problems.
Like if you don't know Call of Duty has been using the Q3 one for decades.

>>723625189
>Doom3 hate comes from zoomers
More like american youtube millenials who are butthurt about Doom 3 for some reason (and who didn't play it on release because they only had a N64 or something in 2004). And yeah, zoomers who watch these youtubers.
The hate towards Doom 3 is beyond me. It was absolutely well acclaimed at the time
>still a good game
I agree

>>723620954 (OP)
Considering this game is the blueprint for nu-Doom show some respect.

>>723625206
>who the fuck remembers or cares about painkiller
Me
Next question please

>>723622473
i admit thats kinda kino actually

>>723625189
>Doom3 hate comes from zoomers
Wut. The most shit in Doom 3's direction comes from old ass people who were disappointed it was pretty different from the first two games.

>>723625206
New Painkiller was announced and it's complete shit.

>>723625493
>it was pretty different from the first two games.
at its core it's actually the most faithful.
You're not an og if you think Doom wasn't a horror game first and foremost.

>>723625537
I mean all Painkiller games except for the first one are fucking garbage

>>723625393
>a slightly touched up idTech 4 engine for Quake 4 is a HEAVILY MODIFIED VERSION OF THE ENGINE
>a completely remade engine from ground up which has only basic code from id Tech 3 in CoD means the Quake 3 engine was better
I don't even know what you're trying to say
Listen to yourself
>they MODIFIED the Doom 3 engine for Quake 4, that's different!
>they used some code from Quake 3 engine for CoD, those are the same engine
Huuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

>>723625189
>I always notice that the Doom3 hate comes from zoomers.
when it released everyone in the world shat on it

>>723620954 (OP)
Zoomers think siren head and endless indoor pools are good games. Their opinions don't matter.

>>723625206
ID since Doom 2016 is just Painkiller with AAA graphics and QTEs.

>>723625614
Pool rooms are kino though. So comfy.

>>723625601
?

>>723625657
>needs the AI to explain it when the review is right there, with a high score
braindead

>>723625707
The actual review is above you blinnd retard

>>723620954 (OP)
I was definitely not old enough to play this, but what's the issue exactly?

>>723620954 (OP)
you do the same shit in call of duty, just spin faster

>>723620954 (OP)
>>723621482
>no gore, just cartoon ragdolls
If I didn't know any better I'd think this was made by Germans.

>>723625560
>Doom wasn't a horror game first and foremost.
Zoomers think this:
>haha wacky cringe ass colorful game lmao I'm not scared
While in reality Doom 1993 was the darkest game imaginable at the time
There were no games with lightning before Doom
Hearing demonic growls coming from dark hallways while there are hanging mutilated bodies on the walls was fucking scary

>>723625850
>Dumb reddit frogposter
I should've known

>>723625597
You're missing the point.
The Doom 3 engine was so annoying to deal with only id themselves could somewhat fix it and it's still forgotten.
The Q3 engine was so good it's still being used up to this day, modified yea, but it only shows that it's easier to work with.

>>723621640
that's how you can tell it's good

>>723620954 (OP)
>Zoomers doesnt know everyone was busy playing UT2004 and Halo 2 and this was a simple indie game to chillout and listen to some bangers.

>>723625476
Archie is such a a non-presence, I repeatedly forget that he is in the game, and I've ran through the campaign many times in opencoop.

>>723625939
They're both made by literally the same person, do you think they are THAT different?

>erm this game is bad *adjusts shit tinted goggles*
kill yourself fag

>>723625939
Q3 engine was far more of a pain in the ass to deal with than D3 engine.
>The Q3 engine was so good it's still being used up to this day, modified yea, but it only shows that it's easier to work with.
There's barely any Q3 engine code left in that shit.

>>723626005
>gaylo
American spotted

boomers, gen x and millennials have held back gaming as a whole for several generations and i am tired of them continuing to do so

>>723624798
Quake and Unreal
Bloody freaking HECK did I shit my pants when I accidentally added bots for the first time in my life in Unreal when I just wanted to check the maps out.

>>723626023
idtech4 was a badly documented madness only Carmack could actually work with
>>723626046
Overall Unreal won but idtech3 was still better than idtech 4 in lots of ways.

>>723625294
Besides somehow downgrading the effects and design of weapons and enemies that were 2d sprites in a 1993 game, Carmack's gay fake shadow tech demo doesn't understand level design, and even fails to do monster closets and ambush properly because of bad sound design.
Almost every room is flat and with less than a dozen demons.
Quake figured out making fair hitscanners and very telegraphed counterable melee attacks even with very fast unrelating enemies. You could jump over and dodge projectiles. You had Shamblers that charged strong attacks. You had recurring flying enemies. You would drop into rooms, teleport, fight at long range
In Doom 3 you
>walk long hallway
>enter room
>lights go out
>'''oOoOh spoOoky'' thing happens
>3 imps spawn
>kill them
>repeat for 6 hours until dissapointing boss fight
Every enemy was ruined, the Imps were ruined, the revenants were worthless, marines acted retarded, hell knights were almost absent, cacodemons looked awful. All of them had their design bastardized into ugly brown Resistance locusts

>>723621401
Now lets see your hours playing those title zooms. I bet not more than 10h in total.

>>723626115
Yea yea now go back to fortnite

>>723626281
Oh and the armor system was somehow ruined with armor doing nothing and receiving itself little damage, because of course somehow they had to fuck up a basic and flagship mechanic of the series

>>723620954 (OP)
I understand that you want a thread about these games to not go straight to page 10 but that's no excuse for being a massive fucking faggot.

>>723623330
you're on tourist difficulty you disingenuous cunt, play on Serious
>>723623612 what >>723623963 said but also it's the first level, what do you want?

>>723626281
>>723626362
Sounds to me like you got a personal huge skill issue problem.

I don't see you having this issue with the bethesda games

>>723620954 (OP)
Oh look, NuDoom predecessor

>>723625831
>hanging mutilated bodies
Whew! The ones with the bottom-half missing really froze me up in Doom II.

>>723624872
>>723624305
>>723624282
>the first enemies
>of the first level
>on the easiest difficulty

pathetic that you thought people wouldn't notice (especially the enemy counts, which show you are playing on easy mode)
the best part is that if I did the same for the VAST majority of modern games then there wouldn't even be an enemy, they would be 20 minutes of walking around a boring interactive cutscene

>>723620954 (OP)
You've been spoilt by choice

A friend of mine used to play this as a child. He became so obsessed with it that he played it nonstop to the point that his father smashed his pc and beat the shit out of him. He later became a drug dealer got arrested and went to prison for several years. Last time insaw him he was losing all his money on the slot machines. Moral of the story is don’t play painkiller

>>723621663
>Why doesnt Dynasty Warriors with guns have good level design??
Retard

>its someone elses webms
every time

>>723620954 (OP)
Okay, but you still grew up with brown and bloom shooters. So I couldn't give a shit about you mocking how primitive early 2000s games seem to you. I still enjoy them when I play them.

>>723626510
>ultra-violence webm
>easiest difficulty
Hey, I know it's been 32 years since release, but there's no need to pretend that you're playing on "Nightmare!" difficulty.

I quite like painkiller
The environments and levels all looked really pretty and unique

>>723620954 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTohkrufHac
zoomers still piss themselves to sliding PNGs in source port

Also which of the expansions were good? I heard only overdose is worth it

>>723626362
I just beat the Robocop game today and for some bizarre reason the devs made Robocop's gun behave exactly like that if you fire it in single shot mode. If you fire it in burst mode all the bullets go to where the crosshair is. If you fire single shot the spread is fucking insane. Immediately made me think of the Doom 3 shotgun. I cannot even fathom why the devs decided to do that.

>>723626869
NTA true, but you didn't refute the other 2 points?

>>723626559
>Dynasty Warriors with guns
And thats why its boring slop

it's actually incredible that after over 30 years Doom is still a hard bar to pass for shootersßß

>>723627604
I can't quite articulate why that dodge is terrible. A thought was how it is implemented, but it seems to not be canned but a response to the player "aiming" at them. But it has a delay like enemy reaction time which would mean a player with any hand-eye coordination would take their shot before the dodge happens. I guess it's the animation itself that is offensive.

now post an epic Blood webm, I dare you.

>>723627604
Witchfire was really fun when I checked it out late last year. Did they add anything significant with updates?

>>723627915
No one shits on Blood in this house.

>>723627987
It's more oriented now to buildfaggotry. At the core it's the same game with some tweaks, Now it just has more content and some sense of progression. Somehow they fixed the mess that was the early version.

>>723627604
Ah huh.... try to mock us millennials now.

I like Serious Sam. All* of them.
(I don't like SS2 because it gives me a headache when I play it)

>>723628265
A lot about this seems cool but six straight seconds of a giant enemy being glued to you is totally unacceptable.

>>723628318
How's 4 and Siberian Mayhem? Still need to play them.

>>723627025
>I heard only overdose is worth it
There are others?

>>723627839
>ßß
Heil Hitler!

>>723628265
what the fuck how did they teach a goat to do that

>>723628369
4 is better than 3 in my books. The game actually starts in the first level unlike with 3 where it takes a few levels before the game feels like it's actually starting.
4's optimization was rough. It's better now but your mileage will still vary.
All the weapons are fun and the alt-fire modes you unlock really shake things up.
Skills are... okay. They're fun to use but to me their inclusion feels a little out of place. I think they could have been handled better.
Levels are great. I never had any "that level" moments in 4 unlike 3.
Siberian Mayhem is literally a better 4 that has been condensed down to 5 big levels. If you like 4 then you'll love SM.

>>723628003
What an ugly game

>>723621663
But Serious Sam is actually a much smarter game than painkiller. SS is all about enemy prioritization and managing weapons. Painkiller is actually kinda retarded.

>>723625189
Doom 3, Quake 4, Prey - same engine. And i love them. I wish after that they leaned heavily into immersive sim mechanics. Imagine Doom 3, except it plays like Prey 2016 and System Re-Shock.

>>723623662
>but an attempt at horror.
No it wasn't you fucking retard. It's an action shooter with horror atmosphere. Same as D1. FEAR is an actual attempt at horror and every time it tries to scare you it interrupts the gameplay for forced walking sections. D3's horror atmosphere never gets in the way of shooting things.

Painkiller really sucks.
Serious Sam is way better.

https://youtu.be/lH2tw0aKGXo?si=jivBUUXpJmuxADeh&t=50

>>723628641
>yegor letov

>>723628667
I completely agree. Don't know why the two games get lumped together when they play entirely different from one another.

>>723628369
4: unoptimized, undercooked shit filled with unmodified store-bought assets where every five minutes you'll ask yourself "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!"
5: amazing first half, almost SS4 tier second one

>>723620954 (OP)
>>723621482
>>723621626
Ok this looks fun. Which painkiller is this?

>>723629020
SM, not 5, sorry - after TTP2's abysmal sales I doubt that there will be a 5, especially on UE5.

>>723628927
Oh look at that, actual weapon prioritisation. No FPS comes close to Serious Sam for me.

you seem butthurt OP, maybe you should take a painkiller

>>723629048
The first ever one.

>>723620954 (OP)
that looks fucking fun, picked up

>>723620954 (OP)
For me it's Serious Sam TFE.

>>723627209
Well, that's true... let me make up for it by posting final boss of episode 2, then.

>>723628667
It's about staying healthy and not developing arthritis so you can perform every twitch move in the book. The default keybinding's inclusion of instant grenades et cetera is a major hint.

KILL THE PAIN
DEATH WILL REIGN
LOVE FOR HATE
SO LET THE GAMES BEGIN

>>723629334
K I N O

>>723623330
>first level in the game
>on lowest difficulty

>>723621972
This looks good lol whats wrong with u

Looks better than Zoom Eternal.

Which painkiller is the best one out of them all?

>>723629461
This video looks both aliased and unaliased. Am I being confused by video compression?

>>723629642
The first one.
BooH is good too.
Not sure about the rest.

>>723629645
He's an insufferable hipster playing with a CRT filter.

>>723629602
Doom Eternal's combat ruined my excitement for spectacle and combat in every other game. Nothing comes close in terms of mechanical complexity and challenge. You're fucking retarded.

>>723629642
1 and it's exp pack. Rest is shit.

>>723629642
Black. Specifically the expansion.
https://youtu.be/xOZDNnSrUYo?list=RDxOZDNnSrUYo

>>723620954 (OP)
By the time this released it was outdated thats why it only got popular later once "boomer shooters" were a thing and got popular again. I remember my boomer uncle who was a pc gamer got me this game when it released cause he loved it and I thought it was shit because by that time I was playing HL2 and BF2. It felt like an old formula of just shoot everything like in Doom or Quake

>>723629783
Until Dark Ages came around :^)

>>723628641
>sneaky onirism ad
An onirism dev made this mage (40 players max on steam)

Getting some cards in original Painkiller was so cancer.

>>723628356
>giant enemy
Skaarj are your typical mooks here lol. He's just fucking with it

>>723629985
It looks like him continuously backpedaling away from it and it sticking to him, which is terrible.

Hey guys I saw there's a game called painkiller out just last month. How is that one?

>>723621401
>there are other painkiller games
What? I thought there was only the one

>>723620954 (OP)
Fuck yeah. I miss overtuned ragdolls, every game these days has that awful Unreal Engine boneless rubber duck shit that only collides with world and disappears the moment you look away because some poor console's memory might need to remember more than two things.

>>723627890
You can already feel how the animations seems to fight over eachother to transition. The attack will probably involve some spinny move that magnetizes to the player to rotate as it attacks and the character slides along the floor (since it's jumping and spinning around), it's like the difference in enemy animations from killing floor 2 to 3, they suck at transitioning and how the enemy actually moves in the space

>>723622473
Awesome fucking game.

>>723630372
Painkiller 1 and Battle out of Hell are the only good ones. Overdose is okay. The rest are fucking dogshit and should be avoided.

>>723620954 (OP)
It was way more fun to play than Doom 3 and especially Quake 4

>new Painkiller is a fucking coop horde shooter
fuck you Saber, you Russian retards

>>723630691
TimeShift was the only decent thing they ever made and that game was inferior to Singularity

>>723620954 (OP)
looks like a monkey jumping around with a gun

>>723620954 (OP)
It is a shooter game, and shooting things in this game is actually a lot of fun, especially nailing enemies to the walls with the stake gun.

>>723630758
Didn't Timeshift release like years before Singularity?
I enjoyed it but it's short as fuck.

>>723630834
Electrogun also was pretty fun.

>>723630853
3 years before
It was OK but really felt like budget Half-Life 2 with its setting

>>723630834
I wonder if the stake gun inspired the penetrator in FEAR

>>723621401
I got that whole franchise for like 8 dollars and I'm sorry but it's so fucking boring. I gave it an honest shot.

>>723625657
now compare it to HL2
Gaben took the fattest shit in history all over Carmack

>>723629783
Mechanical complexity?
>press button on enemy to get health and ammo
>weapon switching to avoid reload animations
Both are shit.

Oh, you mean "one type of gun for one enemy, another for another, and this one is for close-range only, and this one is for long-range only, and this enemy can only be engaged at close combat, and this one only at long range, and this one only at mid-range and if you try to do anything other than what Simon Says, you are gonna get fucked".
Yeah buddy, so mechanically complex.

>>723621663
right because doom has such great level design outside episode 1

>>723631990
when the competition is arena corridor arena corridor arena, yeah any episode is elder god tier in comparison

>>723628641
>>723628983

>>723620954 (OP)
Yes, I did this.
I also loved to nail sexy dead nurses to the walls and watch them hunging there hilariously.

>>723631864
doom eternal did so much psychic damage to you people.

>>723632228
He’s right though, that’s basically what the combat loop boils down to

>>723632228
>psychic damage

Lmao 90% of /vee/ fall for viral marketing saar tactics.

>painkiller 2 is out soon
>shitpost about how pk1 is bad on /vee/
>retards and nostalgia boomers come in defence since only good gameplay is posted
>/vee/ now remembers pk1, posts about pk2 emerging from pajeet marketing firms or by gaslit /vee/tards is not questioned.

This shit is obvious as shit. Tbf, not a bad idea, but you fuckers should be more aware than this. Must be more than 50% bots here, surely.

>>723632583
Talking about it when it's brought up is perfectly reasonable. Allowing that talk to influence your decision about a new product is not. You speak like the two are the same.

>>723632583
You seem obsessed.

>>723622473
This thread is super nostalgic I forgot how cool this boss was. He was kind of a dick though

>>723620954 (OP)
I'm an fps enjoyer and have played a bunch of
>doom
>quake
>blood
>serious sam
>heretic
>hexen
>bunch of the modern boomer shooters
but painkiller has always been uniquely ass to me
just have never been able to make it more than a few levels of black edition without getting bored to tears

>>723629224
lmao boomerslop btfo

>>723632149
>there are nurses in battle out of hell
Damn, I only played it, like, when it came out and I fucking didn't remember it
I was about to say "there are no nurses in painkiller"

>>723632583
You might be right
But I really like to post in such threads about good shooters from the 00s

>>723627025
the expansions are all over the place some are multiplayer maps with tons of enemies and some might not even work without crashing, Overdose works but it has the worst level design in the series, imo play black edition which comes with battle out of hell which might be the best expansion and then feel free to play the remake/sequel hell & damnation they did a good job with it

>>723622094
Witchfire sucks because of the stamina bar completely unplayable

>>723631990
episode 2 is genuinely good.
episode 3 is okay, if a bit uneven.
episode 4 has some really strong levels here and there.
Doom 2 is a mixed bag, but not outright bad outside of a couple levels
Master Levels are pretty bad, yeah.
TNT hasn't aged super well, but it did have some neat concepts
Plutonia is excellent overall
No Rest For The Living is pretty good
Sigil was decent (Haven't got around to Sigil 2 yet)
Legacy of Rust was a mixed bag.
Plenty of pwads with good level design, too.

>>723634631
LoR had a worst flamethrower i've ever saw in games.

>>723632804
Not a single one of you retards noticed you were being farmed. Thats the issue. I'm excited about PK2 since I loved PK1. Does not mean I tolerate being treated like a retard, and I assume the same is true foe you.

>>723631864
>Simon Says
It's amazing how bad /v/ is at games that they still parrot this retardation when every other place on the internet stopped years ago.

We don't say things like that because that's nigger speak

Have you tried not being mixed race and/or nigger brained? Oh, that's right.... you're stuck that way

>>723634782
see >>723632736

>>723621482
like any other shooter

>>723634604
It's balanced around it, without that bar it would be cheating. I'm not defending it but calling it unplayable is a hell of a stretch.

>>723634746
The one in FEAR 2 is worse

>>723621663
>a game is more fun if it arbitrarily forces you to backtrack to find the red keycard for the red door
"""level design""" is a meme buzzword and you can't actually describe to me what it means

>>723621728
>boot up painkiller
>game looks just as good as modern games
>plus cool physics
>500+ fps
we really regressed as time went on. 1000 fps should've been the bare minimum in 2025 for literally any game.

>>723635349
You can't see that much fps anyway.

>>723632583
you know it takes 3 seconds to look up the file on archive to see the same exact shitposting a year ago, retard?

>>723634813
>>723634914
>getting triggered by an actual game for kids

>>723620954 (OP)
I'm honestly a little surprised that Painkiller is getting this much defense when it is such a boring game to play. Yeah, it looks and sounds cool, but that doesn't make it good.

>>723635681
It's the ultimate turn your brain off game, fun in short doses but gets repetitive, the weapon designs are also really fun and more interesting than the standard Doom/Quake line up

>>723635464
doesn't matter if you can see it, it decreases frame time and raises responsiveness. it's like the silkiest butter when youre 500 fps

I can't imagine being this bitter over a dead game series.

>>723630691
Saber also made Will Rock, the most boring Serious Sam clone

>>723636903
I WANNA ROCK
ROCK
Heh, someone is remember it.

>>723625189
>I always notice that the Doom3 hate comes from zoomers.

lol no

it was HL2 vs Doom3 when both were new and us HL2 guys typically hated doom 3

daily reminder that painkiller is getting a new coop game like vermintide\deep rock galactic

>>723621923
Grim.

>>723638064
You don't have to remind anyone it's okay

>>723632228
you didnt refute his post

>>723621972
Your vids literally made me want to play the game, sorry schizo

>>723620954 (OP)
ive never met another millennial who could handle BASED PAINKILLER BLACK except for maybe one guy on the internet

>>723630881
for me it was the absolute genius of letting me shoot a chaingun and a rocket launcher at the same time

>>723638064
What the fuck are these characters? What the fuck are these Dragon Age ass looking demons?

THIS THREAD HAS BEEN VISITED BY A RANGER

reply HUH to be blessed with speedy bunny hops and weapons that don't require reloading

>>723638064
>>723641001
ask the modern audience. it's for Them.

>>723620954 (OP)
No, actually that's Darkwatch
https://youtu.be/ddTC1NcPV8U?si=Ve-0EBEWYQ6NPMJr&t=1460

>>723620954 (OP)
are the Hexen games any good?
that double pack on Steam always gets my attention

>>723623662
Doom was horror, if you play the game with no music it's scary and also has parts where it gets dark and "jumpscares" you with enemies spawning behind a door or whatever, the intent for horror was there

Doom 3 was a successful attempt at that

The biggest problem with FPS is having a quick save function. It's not necessarily a design problem, but it's more a me problem, as I can't stop myself from savescumming, and will just ruin the experience for me. I can't have that comidity that easily accessible. I wish more FPS had checkpoints or other saving systems. But even FPS with checkpoints sometimes have very awkward checkpoints. Having good checkpoints is also a skill an experience dev must have. I know most people don't agree with me so I don't bother pushing it on people.

for me, it's the Opera House

https://youtu.be/qEyZl_akDag?si=P6IWH8lyt34o3IV2

>>723641526
no action game will ever be scary. you focus on how to best use your tools to destroy the enemies. surface aesthetics like dark corridors and gory zombie enemies don't make "horror". it's like a standard shooter doing a cosplay of a horror game.

>>723634929
>most replies is about how the webm provided looks good
>not duped at all
>akthually I was not tricked, I just wanted to talk about PK1 while also joining in on commenting how good PK1 was and Op is wrong

No, fuck off, you're not beating the allegations.

>>723620954 (OP)
>going left in a circle non stop
This is like the NASCAR of FPS games

>>723641861
You can't fit any more straw in there. Stop stuffing, man!

Finally a Painkiller thread (doesn't matter that OP is retarded, game speaks for itself)
>>723622997
Look at ye, postin my favorite ambient track in Painkiller.
Ok, I'll post my second favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaldzZFOwGY

>>723641861
read the whole reply chain numbnuts

Look how they massacred my boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBVKDUxvW6o

>>723621923
>>723638197
mods can't ban them?

>>723626954
>The environments and levels all looked really pretty and unique
They are amazing even today.

>>723629642
>Which painkiller is the best one out of them all?
OG + BooH. The rest is absolute hot garbage, don't even bother with them at all.

>>723642531
How do you bypass age verification these days?

>>723620954 (OP)
>>723621482
It was fun. You're obviously a seething pajeet tranny who worked on the shitty new one that's about to bomb super hard.

I really liked the demon mode in Painkiller
It used shaders so well and it looked so pretty (loved the ripple effect when attacking)

>>723642545
lol mods actively protect shill threads

>>723629334
guys will just watch this and say hell yeah

Even the skyboxes were kino as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOxc0fRxyaw
For me, it's ambient music

>>723638064
This exudes so much gay energy like you wouldn't believe.

>>723643513
>For me, it's ambient music
Same man, I really can't get enough of the ambient tracks. They are SO fucking good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2LTg2sXpbE

>>723621482
>>723623909
Samefag or do you zoom zooms literally share a brain? Both are cringe.

>>723641070
I've been playing Retro Jam 4 over this weekend and have been appreciating Ranger's Big Quad Energy.
HUH.

>>723620954 (OP)
>play game or look up clip of it
>instead of engaging with it on a normal level, it MUST be experienced under some veneer of irony or deprecation
This is fucking weird. Why's your generation like this

>>723641195
Yes if you can get past the confusing level design

>>723641195
Cool aesthetics but I won't recommend it. Level design is bullshit and it gets even worse in 2 with its secret-room tier puzzles for regular progression.

>>723638064
>>723639461
>>723641001
>>723641091
>>723643703
I played it, it's kino.
But it has little to 0 actual content, it will be harsh to compete with Darkshite and Vermintide.

>>723643513
>>723643712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9cxt2juXgE

>>723645582
best depiction of Hell in any game, ever
the poles did it again

>>723634435
>hell & damnation
>good job

>>723631990
Yes, Sandy did nothing wrong

>open thread
>people are unironically defending Doom 3

>>723627987
They reworked the entire upgrade system, and they're adding melee weapons soon. It's so close to finished I'd recommend just waiting and starting a new playthrough early next year.

>>723643712
That's a real asylum btw
The real one is way, way bigger though

Millennials would say: This shit is fucking sick, man.

>>723646642
that's a lot of would-be trannies

>>723634435
hell and damnation is the only painkiller game i've played and i thought it was unfiltered dogshit

>all these areas it looks like you can get to by rocket jumping
>no actual rocket jumping in the game

>>723620954 (OP)
>posts a Quake clone
Post the real game retard

>>723646642
How many teeth were pulled out of aspies in that facility?

>>723625296
>this was considered scary in 2005

>>723647720
It was, on a CRT monitor.

>>723647720
not really. the game did kind of bomb.

>>723644564
have they unfucked quake injector yet or is it still dead due to trannies?

>>723647720
>this was considered scary a year ago

>>723648007
>Couldn't even get the lighting right
Indie scene, I swear.

>>723620954 (OP)
Does Painkiller even have a mod scene?

>>723647720
>this terrified millions in 2004

>>723648007
Horror peaked with snes clock tower, everything has gotten gayer since then.

>>723648245
Yeah, look at any Painkiller released after Black Edition/Battle out of Hell

>>723621482
I was alive in the 90s when RPGs were king, and when FPS started gaining traction with doom, quake, unreal etc people were saying the same thing, that FPS was a genre for simple-minded idiots. The argument was that the gameplay was so simlpe and brainless that it was insulting to the intelligence.

>>723648245
>Does Painkiller even have a mod scene?
It used to. The scene was rather big, especially in Eastern Europe. There's some remnants of the scene in Russia today. The fan games are proof of the passion people had for this franchise. I'm so mad it was mishandled.

>>723620954 (OP)
Last boss made me rage and uninstall the game. And overall the more you play the game the worse it gets. Airport level was start of game turning into a 2/10 turd.

>>723622094
>Guns are more fun.
>Combat is more exciting.
>Encounters are more interesting.
Yeah because losing dmg due stupid dmg drop off is so fun. Not being able to heal whenever i want is also amazing. Piss off

>>723622094
>it mops the floor with Painkiller at any department
No.

>>723648634
>Not being able to heal whenever i want is also amazing
?

>>723647935
No idea, I just download the map, unzip it and put it in my Quake folder like a non-retard.

I've only played the first one but I'm pretty sure OP is cherry picking shit from the first few levels.

>>723621401
Where's Dreamkiller?

>>723622473
KINO

whatever you do, DO NOT play the new one

>>723622412
There's been 3 games with 5 expansion packs since 2004. There's got to be a correlation of popularity there. The developer(s) need money in order to keep producing games / expansions.

>>723620954 (OP)
I love ragdolls so much bros it's unreal

>>723620954 (OP)
Yes, this unironically looks more fun than soulslop or any modern games.

>>723622473
slop

>>723623909
Arguing about subjective things and boosting your own ego with it is one of the most braindead things there is.

Literally ZERO of those quake/doom/unreal wannabe games made in modern age are good and many of them are filled with tranny devs like Overkill
It's infinitely better to replay these old games and their mods instead. And it's all free if you're a retard afraid of pirating. (all freedom users are fags)

It's quite clear that if 99% of the games in the past came out today, they would be rightfully shit on,

I don't know what OPs angle is here but he just convinced me with those cool webms to download the game from gog and try it
How do I get that
>>723622473
Cool looking catapult? launcher?

>>723620954 (OP)
What do you have little nigga?

>>723650774
retard post

>>723650754
based duty-appreciator

What the fuck?
Will nu/v/ also complain about Will Rock?

>>723650776
>Cool looking catapult? launcher?
It's one of the best guns in vidya, the Stakegun.
It sounds, looks and plays cool as fuck.
You can get it on the second level already (destroy the giant wooden chest).

>>723620954 (OP)
Every time I try replaying Pain Killer I get stuck on the first level. I don't know why, but I kind of hate it. I know the rest of the game is good, but man, fuck that first level

Look at all these dead demons flying. It is fun.

is the remake really THAT bad?

>>723620954 (OP)
as an unc this game be some fye

>>723650948
Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPKJEYUTB78

Kino time? kino time

>>723622473
That boss is probably why I love games that give me a sense of scale. The first time I saw it try to swipe me, with its hand starting up in the fucking clouds and traveling all the way down to the ground, I honestly forgot I was playing a game. It was an almost primal experience of witnessing something far larger than yourself. The actual fight is kind of lame, tho

>>723650945
Nobody on /v/ knows what Will Rock is

Still bettet than Fortnite.

>>723651205
Not like they are missing on anything.

>>723625189
>>723625296
Man, imagine if Doom 3 had been a survival-horror game. It would have been so fucking good

>>723651205
you're so fucking gay
god I hate old people so fucking much

>>723651353
>Still better than fucking dogshit

Well...yeah..duh

>>723628003
I will never not love Blood's aesthetic

>>723620954 (OP)
>spawning enemies
I hate this souless shit so much and fuck NuDoom for copying it

>>723651386
10 years ain't that much, you will probably die first because of microplastics, mental illness, shitty society. You are a failure of a generation, complete failure, you only exist to LARP as a woman online and you will never be one.

Eat shit for kiling gaming, 4chan, the internet, everything. NO FUN ALLOWED because failure of a generation of shitzooomers said so, otherwie theyll piss and shit their pants all over the place

>>723650984
It's not a remake. It's a dogshit reboot. Co-op only and blatantly copying Vermintide 2 (the intro/tutorial is identical, you start in a prison and every character is separated and talking to each other as they pass by in moving cages). It's super woke and the dialogue is cringe. It plays like a poor Doom Eternal clone with a two weapon limit. You can try the demo for yourself, but I dropped that garbafe after 15 minutes.

>>723651586
>no fun allowed
lmao this old cucked site banned qa because how butthurt whoah jaks made them
fuck off you old loser

>>723651837
>pissing and shitting myself because of others is fun

not organic garbage

>>723651146
i wanna go back to those days. this is so good.

should i play the RTX mod
i have a 3090

>>723651146
>Fatal1ty
it's been years but I will never forget
>Practice
>Practice, practice, practice
>If you're not practicing, you should be practicing
>That's the only way you're gonna win
>That's the only way you'll be number one
>Gotta practice
>Practice, practice

>>723650984
>is the remake really THAT bad?
Its not painkiller at all.

>>723652471
>should i play the RTX
no
>i have a 3090
sorry to hear that

>>723651369
Holy filtered pleb

>>723651386
Zoom zoom faggot

>>723646378
People always defended Doom 3
Now let's see what were people thinking about the game when it just came out in 2004, picrelated
>it's really shaping up to be the most well produced single player experience to date
>Besides the original Doom, this is probably the only FPS I like more than Gaylo.

You, clown faggy zoomer revisionists, lost

>>723647419
>hell and damnation is the only painkiller game i've played
You made a mistake
Original is better
There's no actual rocket jumping in the OG game too though

>>723621626
>Big ass arena with parkour
>enemy is melee only
Based

>>723620954 (OP)
Well yeah, the soundtrack is half the experience

>>723651205
>Nobody on /v/ knows what Will Rock is
I know, I played it back then
I have it on my PC installed right now actually
Needs an obsucre version of dgvoodoo to work though

LIGHTNING AND SHURIKENS

>>723650949
You sound indian

Is hell and damnation any good?

>>723627604
>looks fun
>early access
I'll wait...

>>723653613
>Is hell and damnation any good?
Sorry to say but no. EVERYTHING's a downgrade from the original. Yes, that includes the grafics (they fuckin suck)

>>723653498
Was the hud always hairy?

>>723653864
Nope, it got "hairy" in the expansion pack I believe (which is why I prefer the original, "cleaner" one)

>>723653613
No
They made the game look better (debatable), but it runs like shit AND it's a completely different game overall. And a worse one. Stick to the original

>>723653613
Yes but it don't have all original levels (so it can't be real remaster), so it's better to just stick to original. Unless you really want to try new weapon and fight new boss

>>723621972
>shows kino
>complains
Ok! Its not for you then! I think they're fun, but I do like Serious sam more since it has a bit more depth to the combat

>>723622204
Yeah reminds me of the "but gta is better the saints row" in the 360 days.

I already played gta nigga, I can enjoy 2 games

>>723651894
>seething over getting slightly trolled on 4chan
yea definitely not a sign of being an old bitch

As a millennial I've never heard of this game.

Aight, I have a couple of screenshots too
Cool painting

>>723620954 (OP)
no millennial says for real

>>723620954 (OP)
Crazy how crisp and aesthetically pleasing it is, and it'll run at 144fps without your GPU fans even getting out of bed.

>>723654146
You live in a village and you didn't have a pc until the second half of the 10s + no one asked

>>723634782
>I'm excited about PK2 since I loved PK1.
I love PK1 and I am NOT excited for that queer slop wearing a skinsuit

>>723654146
Try it. Level design, aesthetics, guns, monster design and gameplay, ambient soundtrack are excellent.
>>723654174
Very nice
I always paid attention to paintings and other art in Painkiller. Eerie.

>>723653759
cool skybox

>>723654331
>that people can fly mode server where people just used mode gimmick with this map to go out of bounds

>>723634782
>I'm excited about PK2 since I loved PK1
Brother, the new slop isn't remotely like Painkiller. It's clearly missing pretty much everything that made the original good and memorable.
>>723654427
PK skyboxes are so good man

A BIT OF _VERY_ OBSCURE TRIVIA
Copying my own post

Why does no one mention the postcards in the level that fly around when you shoot the cardboard boxes? I don't really remember if they're exclusive to this level or if you can find them in other levels, but they definitely depict this opera level on them. There are two variations: one with the main opera hall and one with the entrance area. The back is the same on both versions, and that's what I want to talk about. It has a demonic pentagram printed there and... some low-res text that reads as follows:
"Vous venez de vivre quelquesuns des symptômes les plus douloureux du VIH et du SIDA. Aidez-nous à combattre la peur, la honte, l'ignorance et l'injustice dans le monde entier. Vivez et laissez vivre."

And so the text is translated as follows:
"You've just experienced some of the most painful symptoms of HIV and AIDS. Help us fight fear, shame, ignorance and injustice around the world. Live and let live."

I mean, the first sentence sounds kind of sinister, but the rest of this postcard is really out of place in the Painkiller setting. So after a quick search I found out that this is just text from a 2002 HIV awareness poster from a Swiss organization called ONUSIDA. This poster is documented here where you can see this text https://mediatheque.lecrips.net/index.php?lvl=notice_display&id=4687. And also this catalog shows this poster and its text as well https://www.sidastudi.org/resources/inmagic-img/dd7434.pdf#page=17

It's really just some filler text, but it seems somehow intentional with this text formatting and the actual logo of the organization. And I have absolutely no idea why it's there or for what purpose. Just a little trivia for the game. Maybe someone will care enough to write about it in the article, I did my part to research this thing that literally no one on the internet cares about (I didn't find anyone mentioning the text from these postcards, but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough).

>>723654271
Why are you bullying a fellow millennial?

Just played it. This game is good and has soul for a classic fps. As usual the posters on /v/ don't know what they're talking about.

>>723654331
love the texture work reminds me of games like red orchestra, killing floor, and you are empty

>>723654545
>PK skyboxes are so good man
I think he's trolling, because that particular skybox isn't that great (it's just one color)

>>723654573
i fuckin love trivia and posts like this. This game has some really weird shit going on. Some of the containers in the Military Base and Docks have weird things written on them. In the Orphanage some creepy names are written on the walls.

>>723650776
Stakes catch fire from air friction and do double damage after some distance. They can also catch grenades from alt-fire to create an improvised rocket.

>>723654605
Because if you played games in the '00s, then you'd know about Painkiller

>>723620954 (OP)
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>>723654684
i wasnt trolling

>>723653759
I want more games that look like this.

>>723650776
>Cool looking catapult? launcher?
Somebody should post how it works on common enemy (or it's alt fire, or combo)

Why should I play Black Edition when the original release version exists?

>>723654573
like WHY did they choose to put this on the damn postcards. This is what makes a game TRULY creepy, unsettling.
>>723654573
>no one on the internet cares about
I do

>>723654930
black edition is the original release plus its expansion

>>723654930
BE is just Painkiller 1 Complete

>>723654930
>Why should I play Black Edition when the original release version exists?
It includes Battle out of Hell which is its only official expansion, pretty much on par in terms of quality.

>>723654773
lol true

Reject faggotry
Play old games

>>723655041
>It includes Battle out of Hell which is its only official expansion, pretty much on par in terms of quality.
Because it is also made by People Can Fly

>>723654573
this is great, nice job anon
it's the little things

So which version of Painkiller 1 am I supposed to play

>>723651768
>>723652497
PK had a remake, Hell and Damnation, you dinguses.
>>723650984
It instantly lost my interest by missing half the fucking game by default, and selling the rest of the levels piecemeal as DLC. Completely baffling. Looks like the typical "HIRE THIS MAN" amateur tacky slop, completely pointless since the OG has timeless stylized look.

>>723631990
you're misinterpreting what he's saying
it's not "what if doom but BAD level design", it's literally "what if doom but NO level design" because SS maps are just
>hallway
>square
>slightly curved hallway
>circle
and that's not an oversimplification meme like i could do with doom, it's just every SS map

>>723655380
Black

https://store.steampowered.com/app/39530/Painkiller_Black_Edition/

>>723655380
>So which version of Painkiller 1 am I supposed to play
Black Edition.
For widescreen and fixing some levels bugs I recommend getting Powermad 3.63 from ModDB.
When you launch the game with Powermad, be sure to turn back on /pmpickupfx
>>723655412
>Looks like the typical "HIRE THIS MAN" amateur tacky slop, completely pointless since the OG has timeless stylized look.
Yup, perfect way to describe it.

Also reminder. Don't pick hard difficulty if you want to collect all Tarrot cards

>>723655271
Meet the locals, detective.

>>723654573
>be polish girl
>die young in 1876
>your legacy is having your tomb photo'd for a gravestone texture

>>723628003
>No one shits on Blood in this house.
Correct. Those freaks are too busy shitting blood to care.

>>723655271
>gameplay just boils down to kicking niggas

>>723655893
ludo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOZDNnSrUYo
(This should be called Stalingrad instead)

The Gates of Hell are hidden under the Monastery

>>723655592
>Don't pick hard difficulty if you want to collect all Tarrot cards
Huh, why

>>723643513
>music
It's not music on this level though
But yeah, very eerie and atmospheric sounds on the snowy bridge

>>723620954 (OP)
All doom games are still trash btw

Very little games have this unsettling dreamlike atmosphere
The purgatory in Painkiller is pretty unconventional

>>723656094
I remembered it little wrong. It's only hardest difficulty (Trauma) what disables regular souls dropped by enemies, so you can't finish missions related to that. So you can play hard (Nightmare)
Also final chapter is disabled on Trauma

>>723638064
Something tells me we won't be getting mission briefings from a topless chick.

>>723656589
iirc you can't even pick trauma on the first playthrough

>>723656635
Would it be the side-buzz lesbian AI companion quipping at you?

the music in this game is so cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ziKJvEZKw

>>723638064
this shit looks straight up AI generated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgcSlpmVAzQ
incredibly based level.

What is the new painkiller supposed to be?

>>723656749
Enough with the ambience edging
post battle music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c99IrC7_Ff4&t=2s

>>723656865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRILh-7yuXg

>>723656823
who cares?

>>723620954 (OP)
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>>723622546
incredibly based thread. painkiller is fucking trash and has NOTHING going for it besides environment variety and le funny ragdoll hehe xD

>>723647848
No it didn't you fucking retard. Tired of dumbasses like you acting like 3 bombed because you didn't like it.

It sold 3.5 million units and was id's most successful game at the time. Now go fuck yourself.

>>723656865
How about the credits theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weypUIJHhwM
The dude lowkey sounds like Ozzy Osbourne

>>723657082
no one liked it

the fact that this soulful and artistic game is getting shit on by random vaguely related UE5 slop with the same name is making me unbelievably mad

>>723657103
based, my favourite track besides linkrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wQNzNOhWAc

>>723638064
is any game of the painkiller series (besides de original painkiller) good?

>>723657210
sadly no. They are all HIRE THIS MAN tier slop.

>>723657210
They're closer to Shadow Warrior 2 than painkiller

I wish there would be gore instead of them just being launched into the air.

>723657050
Try harder. No (You) for you now

>>723656865
https://youtu.be/4wQNzNOhWAc?si=ztGIxZ9OtUrIyJgQ

>>723622559
Die alone faggot

>>723657329
>I wish there would be gore
Take out the painkiller weapon and slice em up, i promise lots of gore

>>723657329
>I wish there would be gore
That's what right-click is for

>>723657210
>>723657272
even my teenager ass realized these games were mods slapped together and sold for real money

>>723622559
No reload in this game is probably the most based thing about it

>>723657210
MMM
YUMMY
I LOVE THE TASTE OF EVIL SOULS IN THE MORNING

>>723650984
remake released with half the original levels
many were added back with paid DLC but it's still an incomplete game with missing levels
so yes it's a shitty fucking cashgrab that should be ignored in favor of the original

Very competent clone

>>723657152
>N-NUH UH!
Critical and commercial success. Only people who hated it were tards screaming "NOT MY DOOM". It was stunning at the time and people loved it. No crawl back into your hole, scum.

>>723657526
Hard Reset 2 when?

>>723657526
Hard reset is the definition of a 6/10 game

>>723657526
Oh yes, good game.
Always loved transforming guns

>>723657526
no it sucked ass

>>723657384
>>723657403
I'll keep it in mind when I get around to booting up the game thanks.

>>723622546
This game unironically looks sick but the enemies just seem entirely ineffective and effortlessly stunlocked and killed. If it was actually harder and the player didn't have to do the bare minimum to win it would probably be a masterpiece.

>>723657750
>If it was actually harder and the player didn't have to do the bare minimum to win it would probably be a masterpiece.
Some enemies later on will fuck you up, these are webms from the first levels of the game. You WILL suffer.

>>723657210
You posted it. Overdose is noticeably worse than the original game, but it's, like, the best you can get

still more physics and ragdoll than

bros I'm enjoying serious sam 4, am I evil?

>>723657329
>I wish there would be gore
You can gib enemies to pieces

And juggle 'em for gold

>>723656823
A terrible attempt at making a Vermintide clone.

>>723657750
>If it was actually harder
This is, like, the very first level of the game

>>723641731
Fucking retards always spouting this shit.
>I'M CONSTANTLY ENGAGED AND FIRING AND KILLING LOTS SO IT'S NOT HORROR
Actually kill yourself. Just because YOU personally aren't scared or find it scary, does NOT mean it's not a horror game. You stupid idiot child.

>>723657976
it's amazing how many people miss the objectives, the gold, the tarot cards, etc.

>>723658103
Some of the tarot challenges are a bitch though

>>723657210
FUCK no. Other ones weren't made by original devs, in fact every single one of them is made by a different studio. Overdose was mediocre at best. Later games are straight up trash mod tier by literally whos with 1000 enemy count slaughtershit levels that chug like hell

>>723657976
Was one of my most favorite thing to do - juggling the bodies with the painkiller's secondary fire and getting endless gold

Good thread
I had fun
I like Painkiller

All the posts in this thread are by me alone btw

what difficulty do I go for the first time in Black

Its been a good thread.
Heres some demon mode gameplay to finish it off.

You did figure out the Painkiller's Tertiary fire, right? That lawnmover's a gift.

>>723658507
>stakegun in asylum
That level's tarot challenge is for melee only

>>723658068
Even for the first level, enemies shouldn't be THAT much of a joke. Why is there literally only one with projectiles in this entire encounter?

Whatever, this is literally just a surface observation. I've never played it, so I'm not going to be the typical ignorant retard and talk shit without knowing anything.

>>723658603
>Status: UNLOCKED
dumb nigger

>>723658603
Yeah I already got all of it, pic related (all levels 5-starred, all tarot cards)

>>723657210
overdose is not really that bad especially with reloverdose mod that fixes some bugs and rebalances the whole game, rest of them are shit
also a little piece of trivia from me, one of the guys that worked on painkiller redemption got really butthurt after people on some polish gaming forum pointed out that his game was garbage and started calling everyone there and the entire nation ungrateful and not true fans of the series
after that they went on to make painkiller recurring evil which was just as bad

>>723658654
So? It's like not doing pistol start in dewm

>>723658469
Just play medium and have fun
My opinion

Painkiller HD was probably one of the most useless remake ever.

>>723658639
>Even for the first level, enemies shouldn't be THAT much of a joke
That's not for you to decide THOUGH
There are plenty of harder enemies later on
Some with hitscan guns even
>I'm not going to be the typical ignorant retard and talk shit without knowing anything.
TOO LATE
Lol

>>723657750
I was telling myself that until I played Docks on Nightmare difficulty
a single sailor can (and will) hitscan one fifth of your health away each second

>>723658639
Dude its a literal tutorial level

>>723658998
but muh coop on levels that were never made with coop in mind