Thread 723708952

omg!!! how could they allow this to happen???

>people keep buying low quality demakes
>they keep making them
WOW

>>723708952 (OP)
>look up what this drama is about
>guy sniffed panties, pulled hair and sniffed his finger after sticking it under a woman's arm
Is that not standard cabaret club behavior?

>>723709812
for anyone asking for QRD is basically this >>723709812 and also (pic related)

>>723708952 (OP)
>fans are mad
this guy could be talking about anything

>>723709812
No. Majima kicked out people for less.

>rape, grooming, blackmail, child porn, gang rape, sexual assault and gay rape is OK to japan
>weed
>NOOOOOOOOO CANCEL THAT PERSON DRUGS ARE EVIL NOOOOOO GIVE THEM THE DEATH PENALTY

>>723708952 (OP)
I dont really give a shit but I hope they remove this guy so we can have the old Hamazaki model back.

>>723710135
From what I gather he didn't do any of that though? Unless you consider hair pulling to be amount to sexual assault I guess, but that seems more like normal assault. Then again Americans consider looking at women to be sexual assault.

>>723710159
This is the real issue. He looks like shit compared to the original as does Rikiya. Also they are apparently removing the cabaret club in favor of some girlboss biker game.

>>723709812
>>723709913
he's perfect for the role then

>>723710275
>Also they are apparently removing the cabaret club in favor of some girlboss biker game.
No, what they are doing is even more retarded, in K2 they removed the minigame where Kiryu was an host to shoehorn Zero's Sunshine Club again, in 3 they are taking out the cabaret club and reintroducing the Host Kiryu minigame.

>>723710135
don't worry, drugs are going to get far more common there with all the niggers they are importing

>>723710864
All in all sounds like they are going much harder on appealing to women.

>>723709913
>killed his parents and got away with it
lol how?

>>723710972
He was let go so that authorities didn't have to report that their convictions rates went under 99.9% that year.

>>723708952 (OP)
Name a franchise that went to shit faster than Yakuza.

>>723711771
spiderman ps4

>>723711771
God of War.

>>723711848
Was never good to begin with. First game had an entire side plot dedicated to a homeless lesbian, Miles existed, MJ was an absolute girlboss cunt and so was Silver. You were a frog in a boiling pot, the water just wasn't hot enough for you yet with the first game.

>>723711771
Yakuza is a 20-years-old franchise. Unless you're shitting on Y3, it has endured for a long time. You only think it went to shit fast because you've only known about it for 5 years.

>>723712089
Let me rephrase that: name a franchise that went to shit in a shorter amount of time than Yakuza. 0 killed the franchise, it's been nothing but hot ass ever since with the sole exception being Judgement.

>>723711771
Yakuza was, is, and always will be a shit franchise.
All the games are mcu tier popcorn shit that don't excel at anything, but you still play them whenever you are bored.

>>723712184
0 is the peak of the franchise. Western normies finding about Yakuza thanks to 0 is what ruined it, but that is not 0's fault for being too good and on PC.

>>723710135
You should be quartered for being a weedfag specifically.
Real virile yamato patriots use methamphetamine, sold over the counter under the brand name ヒロポン

>>723708952 (OP)
>People are mad about rapist being in the game
>Not the remake being soulless as fuck
I hate nu-yakuza fans.

>>723710972
Probably same way Asmongold did it.
>Here Mom, a pack of cigs for you to smoke around the breathing machine

>>723712537
what do you expect when pic related is the current fanbase of this series.

>>723712770
Amazing how they interpret milquetoasts message of "Just be whatever you want to be" as "I am going to kill you for questioning my lifestyle"
That entire Y3 was Kiryu going "Yeah, whatever, long as you're happy", then in the same game he runs away from tranny gorilla in fear.

>>723712770
>Bleach Japan is straight up led by Ben SHapiro lookalike
OY GEVALT!

>>723712938
>>723713002
they're just fucked in the head since they genuinely think the games are about "beating up conservatives", then they will, in the same next breath and sentence, also tell you that "w00ke" doesn't exist and it's a coined term or whatever to just meant "thing i don't like".

>>723713098
>Bleach Japan
>Conservative
Top Zoz

The Yakzua series is dead anyways, just pray we get a judgement 3 (lol lmao) or that stranger than heaven is good

>>723712770
>>723713002
>they're this full of themselves and focused on american politics brain rot that they genuinely think some character in a japanese game, made by japanese people and focusing around japanese politics looks like a caricature of ben shapiro, a jewish american guy who talks about american politics
They will try to tell argue with you on the fact they AREN'T mentally ill, btw.

>>723709913
i don't get why RGGfags got upset of something from 6 years ago

>>723713376
>Prostitution and grey area have been a staple of Japanese society for hundreds of years
>Only got "outlawed" to seem more inviting to foreign investment
Bleach Japan is literally progressivist feminists fighting for hecking woman rights and liberation from prostitution from their lens.

>>723713449
Have you forgotten of the fact that tranny leftists will quite literally scour through your entire life history, going as far back as decades prior if possible for any shred whatsoever of wrongdoing or wrongthink then try to use that as leverage against you or the company you work for to have you fired and destroy your life through it?

Just because their target is from another country and culture won't magically just stop them from engaging in that type of behavior when it comes to this sick idea of vigilantism.

Wow! Western fans and really unhappy. They even made the petetion to show how unhappy they are
https://www.change.org/p/remove-teruyuki-kagawa-from-his-role-as-goh-hamazaki-in-yakuza-kiwami-3

>>723712770
>>723713098
Yakuzafags why didn't you gatekeep your franchise

>>723710135

Its almost like sex and the progression of life is encouraged in a society that has treated life as a disposable commodity for hundreds of years.

>>723708952 (OP)
whats latest drama?

>>723713686
>petition on an american, english speaking backed site
>not even anything japanese at all that the people in charge of the series could understand or be affected by
LMAAAAAOOOOOOOO
pure delusion

>>723711771
there was this big sale last week, should I refund?

>>723713907
check the thread
or
endure Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/yakuzagames/comments/1nwzrrz/let_no_one_tell_you_teruyuki_kagawa_has_atoned/

>>723714015
I'm surprised they gathered 7k signs.

>>723713098
suffocating irony. or are wokoids really that retarded??

Seriously, why are westerners mad this time? It's usually Japanese who are upset about something like this and they already let the guy come back into the buisness.

>>723713098
>and it's a coined term or whatever to just meant "thing i don't like".
Don't they already do this with terms like 'nazi' and 'bigot' and 'Xphobe' ?

>>723711771
Halo and Gears of War were dead in a decade

I just don't get why drugs are bad enough to ruin you but not what he did

>>723709812
You never beat Cabaret Club Czar did you

>>723714448
an actor they hired as a face scan groped women like 6 years ago in a cabaret club after paying to be left to do that, but then the woman decided she didn't like it anymore despite giving him consent for it prior to that. matter's already been long settled but western fags suddenly just unearthed it and are trying to do voodoo magic to resurrect it from the dead and make it be an issue again, going as far as trying to urge japanese people themselves to get mad about it again and throw a fuss over it and boycott the demake.

>>723714448
women are hysteric about sega hiring "literal rapists" when the dude groped one lady 7 years ago and quit drinking afterwards

>>723714620
Women are property or something like that, idk.
They don't really care. It's a culture surrounding shame, meaning, the woman ends up getting the bad stick of it because she should be the one ashamed for being a whore that caused the man to act the way he did and stumble when confronted with her jiggly cow tits or whatever.

>>723714701
Sauce?
There are enough reasons to ignore the demake's existence anyways.

>>723714003
Absolutely. I'm not giving SEGA one more cent until they stop catering to the western fans and stop removing JAV actresses etc. from the games.

>>723711771
Half-Life

>>723711771
>inb4 no one liked gaylo
It was made fun of a lot but in good fun. /v/ used to have H2 vista lobbies and everything. Don't let retards memeryhole the truth. Halo 4 tanked the hell out of the game harder then if Ethnic Cleansing 2 released and it is just BBC porn.

>>723711938
Shit from day 1. And I'm talking about the original PS2 game, it was shit.

>>723711771
Persona

>>723712770
>>723713098
This substory is one of the worst things to ever happen to the franchise retroactively. Curiously this is the same game that also has a substory where Kiryu is being chased by much more realistic tranny, but it got removed and 'fans' will say Kiryu was being OoC in it, being an "ally" and all.

>cabaret club with sexy girls? AXED
>motorcycle club with "sexy" strong feminist women? SHOVED IN

>>723710972
In contrast to what you've probably believed, the reason the conviction rate is so high in japan is because cases don't even go to court unless there's enough proof to say he's almost certanly guilty. Not just because of cops not wanting muh dishonor for arresting the wrong guy, but also because they need to go to a judge to get an arrest warrent and the judge will only give it if they provide evidence on par with what a conviction takes in most countries.

>>723716493
I never was a fan of the club stuff but why couldn't we have both?

>>723709913
>>723716518
Sad thing is in this case xtwitter would still the murder of one's parents worse than pulling some woman's hair.

>>723716493
is kson in there? since, you know her vtub avatar and everything is supposed to be one of those motorbyike dykes n shie

>>723717009
>is kson in there?
Please fucking no

>>723717061
i mena, yong is already in an sealed to the series as kiryu's ENG VA, so i'd expect them to have her randomly appear like that purple haired hag just so she can give westerners that feeling of "OH I RECOGNIZE HER! THAT'S SOMEONE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT I RECOGNIZE! OMG, I RECOGNIZE!!!"

>>723716493
is yong in there? since, you know his voice and everything is supposed to be one of those motorbyike dykes n shie

>>723717164
>>723717175
>yong
yea

First they recasted Kiwami 2 characters
But I didn't care, because I never played Yakuza 2

They they recasted Ishin characters
But I didn't care, because I didn't play Ishin and I liked Yakuza 0 cast

Then they brought e-celebs
But I didn't care because, it was optional content

They they brought e-celebs to dub
But I didn't care, because I don't play with English dub

Then they came for my favourite Yakuza 3 characters
And there was no one left to speak out for me

>>723717330
>my ancestor

>>723717330
Amazing that someone managed to outdo david hayter in being a pathetic, delusional schizo.

>>723710135
based. stoners are insufferable to be around

lol

Can you play Y3 on pc? What is the issue here? Is Sega going to pull the original of the shelves? Who would play an inferior version when the original is still available

>>723718032
They want to sell it again. And Mine's Saga is pretty strong selling point for a lot of Yakuza fans

>>723712770
>calls people “tourists”
>obviously wasn’t around to play the PS3 version of Yakuza 3, where Kiryu is almost raped multiple times by some big hulking tranny, or yakuza 4, where akiyama makes rape jokes and literally uses the words “tranny bar”
Guaranteed these retards didn’t get into this series until 0. Yakuza used to be a pretty based series. What they did to the remasters of 3 and 4 is a goddamn crime.

>>723718923
I bet they are italian.

>>723716493
giant hambeast ""biker" on the left

>>723716493
>lost interest
judged by whom???

>>723719402
judge by their western branches who said these things are "problematic"

>>723717435
Always is.

>>723719503
what a faggot producer

>>723718923
>remasters
could use an infodump here. so how many "rounds" of the same game are we at now?

>>723710345
>Rubs severed Chicken head under girls armpit
*CRUNCH*

>>723719758
Sorry, I used “remasters” because I was counting both 3 and 4. If we’re going by 3, it’s been remastered once (on PS4.) Now, it’s getting remade as Kiwami 3. So there are basically 3 versions of Yakuza 3. Technically 4, since the PS3 version already had missing content compared to the Japanese PS3 version, but that doesn’t count as a remaster.

>>723719402
>>723716493
yokoyama hates them
didn't expect him to cut both hostesses dating and hostess maker

>>723721339
>hostess clubs are no longer popular in modern day japan
>this is why we are going to remove them from a game that plays in 2009 japan

>>723708952 (OP)
>FANS ARE MAD
>it's two japanese tweets and 15 weebs whining on twitter
Nobody that matters gives a shit.

>>723721339
>>723721553
Hostess clubs in 3/4/5 are absolute shit. It's not fun, and the models are too poorly done for them to even be hot. 0/K2 made the only version of this worth a damn.

>>723710135
>CANCEL THAT PERSON DRUGS ARE EVIL
Correct.

>>723721339
There was nothing particularly interesting about them before yet they were still put in just about every goddamn game
What is their logic here?

>>723721120
I see, thanks. so I gathered its basically getting worse with re"vision" and that goes for all of them. I wonder if the next round will still even be in Japan.
Why is the only thing japs choose to carry from the western culture the current self-hate?

>>723721856
People bitched about them so much they had to completely redo the concept. In the RPG games the "mini game" takes like twenty seconds.

>>723721856
logic is that nagoshi wanted to have cabaret and pretty girls shoved into every game cause he thoughts that's what yakuza is about to some extent, wooing sexy ladies, AND he wanted to spend time himself with said sexy ladies he hired for the cabaret girls roles.
yokoyama doesn't care about that cause he's a literal male feminist retard who goes out of his way to censor shit like making the skirts on in-game women longer instead of shorter.

>>723722302
Following Nagoshi who infamously used Sega's money to hang out with those hostesses and eat at fancy restaurants I can get the hesitation. By 5 the games were clearly full of "no haha I promise this expensive restaurant bill was for research see"

>>723722302
I miss Nagoshi so much bros.

>>723722302
>>723722768
>Missing the point that was trying to be told about hostess clubs in every fucking game
Did you think Haruka's story in 5 was celebrating how awesome and fun it is to be an idol? Or Shinada's was about how great it is to play professional baseball?

>>723713098
>You can only beat up men
>And a tranny because Yakuza considers them men
Doesn't sound progressive to me

>>723721339
Hostess clubs are not popular with young men. Yakuza protags are all in their late 30s or older. Old men are the only thing keeping hostess clubs alive these days.
>>723722768
His studio is hiring right now, they opened up 9 new positions.

>>723723170
Didn't his investors say it was closing after he makes the one game he is making?

>>723723304
They said they won't continue to fund it. If Nagoshi finds a new publisher he'll be fine. Also in 2021 he said that his studio was making money from the start, by helping NetEase with various mobile games. They can survive on subcontracting.

>>723723602
Good to hear. Excited to see what he's working on.

>>723711771
Palworld.

>>723723823
https://hrmos.co/pages/nagoshi-studio/jobs
This is proof of job openings, his studio posted that on twitter this month.
During the last fiscal year they had 55 employees, up from the founding 30 or so. In April or May next year they'll have to update that figure. Nagoshi said he doesn't want to work with an overly large team again and prefers it when he can gather all studio staff in one room, talk to everyone in person. Sega really fucked his shit up by promoting him above his zone of comfort and letting RGG grow to more than 300 employees.

>>723723823
I heard it repeated a few times that he's basically making a "spiritual successor" to the Yakuza series, but about the Triads, and it's going to be the way he originally intended the Yakuza series to be like before SEGA forced him to castrate it along with Kiryu.

His original idea was for it to be way more brutal and dark, with Kiryu actually being a piece of shit and more akin to an anti-hero than straight up goodie two shoes wholesome type like SEGA had him make him. Combat supposedly also would take a more realistic and brutal take with actual wounds and shit showing up on the enemies as you pummel them, not the cartoony shit you end up having in Yakuza.

I really can't help but think of Sleeping Dogs the more I describe this but supposedly that's what it might be about, especially since Nagoshi really loves those types of serious crime drama movies and whatnot, so it's very much likely he will make it similar to that, more serious and dark and whatnot.

>>723710135
as someone who uses a lot of weed, it's not good for society, anti-drug laws are good

that said, he was a top musician and it's a shame

>>723724448
Inject it into my veins

>>723724448
Some of his studio directors are Chinese. If he hired them as consultants on the Triads and chink criminal underworld in general, it has a chance of being good. Chinks wouldn't be allowed to publish anything like it in China, it would make sense for them to try in Japan.
But then you have to account for Nagoshi being much older now than he was back in 2003. He got softer, lost a lot of his edge. He had a serious heart surgery in 2019 too, that kind of thing fucks with people's outlook on life.

>>723724934
>He got softer, lost a lot of his edge
yakuza has never had an edge lol, it's a soap opera

>>723725128
there used to be rape and child prostitution in them before

>>723725128
You wouldn't know this if you played only Kiwami with its sanitized map, but the original was huge on environmental details. Thugs would pull Kiryu into various back alleys instead of fighting in the open. Main streets were full of high school girls whoring themselves out for clothes and accessories, Date's daughter wasn't some kind of exception. The West Park had several times more hobos and they were spilling out to the streets outside, the homeless hunters were actually justified in their actions.

>>723719758
>1 and 2
PS2 original. Superior PS3 and Wii U remaster but never localized.
>Kenzan
PS3 original (Never localized). Rumors of a Kiwami but they'd ruin it given what Ishin Kiwami and now Kiwami 3 look like.
>3
PS3 original, PS4 remaster, and now the Kiwami. There's also technically a difference between the Japanese and western PS3 releases due to the western version cutting a lot of content and making some content pre-order exclusive but there's a restoration patch to fix that nowadays.
>4
PS3 original, PS4 remaster.
>Dead Souls
PS3 original.
>5
PS3 original, PS4 remaster.
>Black Panther 1 and 2
PSP original (Never localized).
>Ishin
PS3 and PS4 original (Never localized), then the inferior Ishin Kiwami remake/remaster mix that released a year or two back. It's both a remake and a remaster, I don't know how else to explain it.
>0
PS3 (Never localized) and PS4 original. It just got an inferior Director's Cut version on the Switch 2 that will be coming to other platforms in a few months.
>6
PS4 original.
>Judgment
PS4 original and PS5 remaster. The Japanese PS4 version also had the original Hamura before he was censored but only the launch PS4 versions. The remaster is generally worse as it removed the original lighting and caused issues due to the 60 FPS.
>7
This is a bit confusing to explain. There's the Japanese PS4 original that had you pay for the NG+ and TFMT DLC. When released in the west it came with said DLC included by default and a PS5 version along with the PS4 version. This PS5 version was then released as "Like a Dragon 7 International" in Japan.
>7G
PS4 and PS5 original.
>8
PS4 and PS5 original.
>8G
PS4 and PS5 original.

You can also get into semantics here because many of the PC versions are also technically different or worse versions of the console versions as they introduce bugs or differences to content that don't exist on console at all. 0 on PC in particular is all kinds of messed up compared to the console release.

>>723726963
Whoops, missed two games.
>Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise
PS4 original.
>Lost Judgment
PS4 and PS5 original.

>>723726963
You forgot to explain that 3-4-5 remastered on PC are basically just PC ports based on PS4 remasters because prior to 0 on PC, the series was locked strictly to Sony consoles.

>>723727309
Didn't have enough room to explain everything otherwise I'd slap Xbox and PC onto the games released on those platforms. Even so the Xbox versions seem to be the same as the PC ports as they exhibit some of the same bugs the PC versions have like having the same dodge distance bug in 3R and 4R while on PS4 has a different dodge bug. I don't know if Xbox 0 is as broken as PC 0 but I know Xbox 6 is fine just like PC 6.

In general the Playstation versions are their target audience and platform as can be seen with how they test the games and a lot of their marketing so it's better to prioritize that in terms of explaining the versions since those are still the major platform for them even as recent as 8G since their behind-the-scenes stuff seemed to focus on that and 8G itself has bugs on PC regarding weird timing issues particularly during the QTEs at 60 and had broken Heat gain if I remember right.

>>723727628
Was the Judgment PC release based on PS4 version or the PS5 ver with ruined lighting?

>>723727981
PS5 version. You can't get the lighting back only somewhat mimic it with Reshade, you can't play the Steam pinball game, or play Puyo Puyo but you can bring back the original Hamura via mods. You can also use beta Yagami if you want via mods.

Do the Judgement games have their own addicting minigames, like real estate? Bought them during the autumn sale.
>>723718016
I really need to try to get back into Troubleshooter.
I played it for about 12 hours the first time I got it despite the menus and translation overwhelming me. Then got distracted by other things. Been a few years now.
Since then though, every time I try booting it back up, I stare at the menus and go "nope".

>>723728097
>Do the Judgement games have their own addicting minigames, like real estate?
Not exactly.
You have to really stretch it to say that JE's major minigames are drone racing and Dice & Cube but those two would be the "major" ones for JE.
LJ has all the unique School Story minigames which all have more effort put into them than most minigames but none of them are to the level of Clan Creator, Hostess Club, Dondoko Island, Sujimon, or Ichiban Confections.

>>723716518
What about drugs, you can go to jail just for testing positive with 0 possesion

>>723712770
>Ishi is such a whole hearted character
So hecking wholesome 100 like my shounen protagonists. I hate that retard and IW so fucking much.

>>723716090
A guy who spent majority of his adult life working in Japan's biggest sex entertainment district that caters to all tastes is merely not surprised that he ran into another ladyboy, then acknowledges that maintaining these looks is a bigger hurdle than it would be for real women. That somehow makes him a troon advocate.

>>723709913
>The guy lightly slapped around a gold-digging whore in a club like Yakuza
>Gets role as Yakuza
>"NOOOOOO!!!!! YOU CAN'T BE YAKUZA!!!!"
man I love twitter

what i hate the most about this shit is that these retards that consist of the new fanbase would eat up these designs like slop if he didn't behave like a yakuza IRL.

>>723731894
Nah it was more than that I'm sure. Problem is that it's hard to tell because the majority championing this cause are the kind who'd put a guy in jail for looking at a woman the wrong way if they could.

>>723710972
He was depressed and wanted to commit suicide with his parents and talked them into doing it, but he failed to kill himself.
Because of this he got assisted suicide charge instead of murder and he got 5 years.

>>723732168
>Nah it was more than that I'm sure
Sauce? My source (Japanese news article, not twitter) says tabloid just caught him being drunk and pushed around a whore in a hostess club

>>723732168
The part women don't want to talk about was that the club's mama was in on abusing her employees. She was the one taking off their bras in front of customers and stuff like that. The mama wanted to shift the blame and started blaming hostesses for everything. So much for women's solidarity and the myth of women being incapable of sexual abuse.

>>723732847
Yeah I actually looked this up myself, though I didn't get too many details because I was checking JP sources. Odd how the #removekagawa people leave that part out with how they keep bringing up that he didn't apologize to the mama.

>>723709913
>POV hostess in Ginza

>>723710934
Seriously it's over for Japan isn't it?

>>723716493
it was a shit minigame improved later in the series, but they could've fixed it instead of replacing with this forced shit

>>723726963
>>723727210
thanks for exhaustive overview

>>723732974
Shit like this helps me understand why in older games the hostess clubs were managed solely by men. Marietta was the best example of male tardwranglers being the only thing that could save the club from hostess catfights and other drama.

>>723734543
>If Kiryu isn't handing the girls roses literally every time they enter and exit work they have a mental breakdown and refuse to do their paid shift.
I wasted so much money keeping those women's sanity stable with roses just so the place wouldn't go under.

>>723708952 (OP)
Is Yakuza 3 Kyriu a better man?

>>723735187
He literally got turned down by his second (and last) shot at true love and immediately opened an place where he raises other people's kids. You tell me.

>>723735289
Is Yakuza 6 Kyriu a betterer man?

>>723735376
He watched another man's daughter from the first love of his life have a mixed race son with a street thug and immediately decided he had to erase his name.

>>723731894
>Autists on /v/ don't know what acting is
Are you this disconnected from the real world? So if I play a serial killer in a film it's okay if I go full method and start murdering people in the streets?

>>723735103
There was one cunt that had to be bribed all the time and others could be managed mostly with the pep talk, but playing it optimally seems impossible without a guide. I'm not exactly sure, but I got the impression that some hostesses would lash out and fill the stress bars of other girls if they weren't bribed into contentment. Absolutely infuriating, but realistic.

>>723735532
Is faking your death to protect your wife's daughter's mutt son you helped raise the bestest thing you can do as a man?

>>723709812
>>723709913
can we get something on Rikiya as well? Hamazaki I don't really give a shit, but Rikiya is a fucking disgrace

>>723735602
I was following a guide which basically stated to rose them each time and then pep talk them at other certain times. If you didn't buy specific parts it was also very easy to bankrupt them and I think it lost the minigame entirely? It's honestly just as bad as Hostess Maker because it's purely guide-based or you can't do it.

>>723716493
the cabaret minigame in 3 was the worst iteration. But from the trailers there is cabaret content. So im not sure why you have the need to lie.

>>723735774
That's not cabaret content like in 3, 4, 0, FotNS, K2, etc. That's Kiryu being a host which was the same minigame as in 2.

>>723735774
>>723735886
If they're removing club Flawless, they're also removing or heavily modifying the substories about that school kid who simps for all women in town from hostesses to Haruka.

>>723735886
so its the same content where kiryu talks to women but they come to him instead.
thats an amazing logic jump when you said that the minigame of talking to girls has been axed.
I will tell you again that how it was done in 3 was the worst so changing it is not bad. The talking to women minigame is still in the game. You lied.

>>723736116
You're talking to two completely different people, I wasn't arguing with you at all. It's also not the same minigame because host club doesn't play any minigames or anything, it's just five sessions with different women each time where you say like two or three things to make them happy and they leave. Hostess Maker is dressing up girls and having to manage a club's finances, cabaret club is the same thing but more fun, and hostess club content is talking to girls to build up their hearts so you can play minigames with them to do a substory with them.

Host club is only like hostess club on a very surface level at best.

>>723735774
It's going to be male host club, thus Kiryu sporting that silly hair

>>723736326
I dont care about you being pedantic. You know what was talked about and its clear to anyone with a normal brain that the poster was lying about anything being cut for the sake of a retarded internet argument.

>>723736542
But hostesses were cut. The actual hostess minigame was cut and replaced with host club and Hostess Maker is apparently out in general. They are not the same thing not do they function the same. It's not pedantry it's literally two different type of minigames and you're boiling it down to "You talk to a woman" when Yokoyama is specifically saying the hostess club and hostess maker aspects have been removed which are two different minigames to host club.

>>723735774
This is like the third retard in this thread that confuses Hostess Maker mini-game with Hostess Club mini-game and you're also confusing pic related for a mini-game at all. The moment this pops up in the trailer is when they are talking about new sub-stories, so it will be the same quirky substory shit as that fujo VO session in Kiwami 2.

>>723735886
As I mentioned above, there is no confirmation on either jap or eng website that this is a mini-game at all. From the trailer this is most likely just a one-off substory.
The only confirmed mini-games are: Bad boy dragon, Purikura, Bowling, Golf (K2), Darts, Karaoke, UFO catcher and the usual gambling games.

>>723710135
Keep seething subhuman stoner lol.

>>723736542
This isn't some dumb rumor or baiting. Sakamoto and Horii said over the course of several interviews during TGS that they're removing both the hostess maker and hostess clubs. This map was given away at the TGS booth. They removed both Flawless and the Canal Grande strip club (where Kazama is fought).

I never liked the hostess side stuff in any capacity and I've played through all the games except Infinite Wealth and the Mad Dog of Reddit game.

>>723712603
Get out of the thread, Hasan

>>723709913
Will we get more male gaze material?

>>723736741
Yeah, you're right, looks like it might be a substory because even the Famitsu article about it has that on the image (Which I assume was what you are talking about from the summit. The Asian site just mentions
>Pose for the perfect shot at the Print Club, aim for strikes in bowling, and enjoy a series of other staple minigames—including golf, darts, karaoke, UFO Catchers, gambling, and mahjong!

>>723736921
Don't take that as gospel considering 8's demo locked half of Hawaii out. Based on that map it also looks like they removed that small garbage area connecting the bridge to the street, and Kamiyama's area. There's also no fish shop so I really doubt this is the full thing.

>>723735558
>I REALLY LIKE THIS YAKUZA SERIES THE YAKUZA ARE FUN
>OH NO THE YAKUZA ABUSES WOMEN IRL WHY AREN'T THEY HECKIN WHOLESOME LIKE MY MAJIMA
I hope you go on holiday in Japan, piss off the Yakuza and when they tell you the bullets aren't rubber your last words are BUT KIRYU WOULDN'T AGREE WITH THIS

Don't play a series about the Yakuza if you're upset by violence against women, retard.

>>723737308
Doubtful. YK3 seems like it's going in the direction of being all about the female gaze and female empowerment instead.

>>723737583
>Kamiyama's area
Oh shit. They might remove weapons altogether now that they're pushing this magical Ryukyu style that conjures several weapons out of thin air.

>>723737714
>Entire series happens because a man kills another man trying to rape a woman
>This means the series has a positive view of sexual assault

>>723736705
>>723736741
dont tell me what im confusing. You are confusing a minigame that everyone didnt like and complained about and tried to sell it that they simply removed it for a different reason other than that it was a disliked feature. You are trying to spin a narrative that isnt true. The screenshot I provided clearly shows that you can still interact in the same way with women as other games have included with this barebones talking minigame.
Changing out content that was disliked for being bad and boring with a different one is also more interesting that including the yakuza 0 host club game (again). And you are diluting the conversation by even brining up these other minigames and pretend im confusing anything.
>>723736921
oh no a demo map for a demo event is locked up?
Damn looks like yakuza 8s hawaii map is really small according to the locked up part i could play in the demo of infinite wealth. Disingenuous retards like you should kill themselves.

>>723737975
I'd say the issue is more people going full virtue signal about it, claiming Yakuza is some woke paradise franchise when it predates all that bullshit. While of course ignoring or seeking to remove the parts they don't like of course.

>>723738048
I didn't play the slop released after 6 and don't give any fucks about the Hawaii map. They're not making downtown Naha from a scratch here.

>>723708952 (OP)
>r*dditors
>fans
lol go back, most forced cancel culture bs by a few discord trannies

>>723738092
Yakuza always was a sort of proto woke because the dissident group in Japan were liberals until the 2020s. Each game has some sort of commentary that boils down to "this part of Japanese culture bad, needs to be changed."

>>723708952 (OP)
What, did they recast Japanese Kiryu after all these years?

>>723738356
I think it's probably more that the liberals of Japan are not the same as those of America. I mean American libs aren't even the same as those of 15 years ago.

>>723709812
no it isn't

>>723740881
this is what i'd like to know
not that i'm buying this demake

>>723709913
So we're just calling everything sexual assault now?

>>723738356
This is your brain on American politics. Retard thinks mutt standards of left and right applies to everywhere

>>723742618
Japan does not have a single non extremist nationalist party, and that includes their Communist Party

>>723742517
Ikr, starting to sound like fucking metoo shit again. Oh noes, he touched my knee, shoulder, hair, etc.. TWENTY YEARS AGO!! What a pig right, he must be executed asap.
ffs.. and usually comes from sluts who went there exactly for that reason

>>723744237
You're not supposed to touch them, Anon

>>723744345
They do put out for select few customers. Just not in the club itself.

>>723709812
>>723709913
Silent hill f was right, japanese women need to be saved from their men by white princes like me.

>>723744237
I found it funny as fuck that in the photo of Kagawa used during RGG Summit (it's in the OP) the angle makes him look a bit similar to Kevin Spacey. Normally he doesn't look that similar, it's just this one shot.

>>723744237
How long ago was that incident anyway? Apparently it was at least a couple of years. How has he been since? Seems like he was mostly a bad drunk but if he has since cleaned up his act then I can imagine Japan giving him leeway. He also settled with the hostess didn't he?

That said this is all besides the point that he's looking like a significantly worse Hamazaki than the original guy. The actor replacements and various adjustments to the game are probably bigger concerns.

>>723745878
In Japan nobody cares apart from the few most rabid feminists with the western mind virus. They're more pissed about the murder his cousin got away with, but there's more to it than just being cousins. They're both kabuki actors who work together, Mine's actor is also in their clique for that matter. The outrage is caused by the world of kabuki refusing to publicly condemn Ennosuke and ruin his career.

>>723746240
>the world of kabuki refusing to publicly condemn Ennosuke and ruin his career.
based. more companies in general should be doing this instead of just caving in and raping someone over a handful of pissants seething online over random shit.

>>723746240
He was convicted and served jail time. How the fuck does that qualify as getting away with murder?

>>723746830
Kabuki actors are very different from media personalities with pristine public image. Virtually all of them have some criminal record, mostly petty misdemeanors, drunk driving, keeping enough mistresses to take sole fault in a divorce, that kind of stuff. I do agree they're based for sticking together not giving any fucks about normalfag feelings.
>>723746995
A much lighter sentence than the common people think he should have gotten.

>>723746995
He wasn't dropped by every single entertainment outlet and is still able to get work done and afford to live. That is unacceptable. His life should have ended with their murders. Everything he loved should have been taken away from him so that he would never ever be allowed to continue on living and repenting for the things he's done. He should have lost every shred of hope left in him and become so destitute to the point he would kill himself. That is the way Japanese society works. Extreme shame driven culture to the point they would tell you it's better off you just fucking kill yourself rather than continue on living and being a burden to everyone else by bringing shame to them for still being alive. There is no concept or repentance or forgiveness for them. If you do want to apologize, you still need to be punished in some way. And if they don't feel like that was enough still, they will want you to die.

>>723747341
They weren't murders. He only helped his parents commit suicide. Any good child would be willing to do the same.

>>723740881
They got some Japanese actor to replace Goh Hamazaki's model. Turns out the guy was almost canceled years ago for pushing a hostess at a club, pulling her hair and sticking food in her armpit before eating it or something silly like that.
Anyway, western fags just found about it, and they're crying to remove the guy because of it. Whatever.

>>723710135
I know people like to meme on this but the real answer is that drug possession leads to an arrest and criminal record while the he-said-she-said gropey stuff didn't. That's the reason why one guy gets sacked and the other keeps his career.
What makes this annoying is RGG being faggots parading around how progressive and woke they are and how much attention they pay to social stuff while turning around and hiring guys with sketchy social infractions. Practice what you preach Yokoyama you fucking faggot.
And of course Yong Yea is completely silent on this matter despite championing himself as an outspoken critic of bad industry practices. Here's his opportunity to earn even a sliver of respect from his detractors, but now that he has his bag he's gonna clam up and look the other way.

>>723738356
>s. Each game has some sort of commentary that boils down to "this part of Japanese culture bad, needs to be changed."
Bullshit lmao

>>723738356
List every single game and the precise critique of Japanese culture it makes.

>>723747460
It's probably true, the alternative story to it was that his parents were succumbing to disabilities and asked him for help with ending it. But you know how it is in the developed world outside of maybe Canada. Euthanasia for those who just suffer for no reason and live with the shame of being a burden on their children is till taboo.

>>723747595
Just to name a few
>Yakuza 0
>"The arrogance of our country during The Bubble made our downfall inevitable and we should have seen it coming"
>Yakuza 1
>"The government is corrupt and in bed with organized crime, that's bad"
>Yakuza 2
>"Corrupt police are bad and foreigners in Japan are treated poorly"
>Yakuza 3
>"The USA has way too much control over Japan's internal affairs and it hurts us"
>Yakuza 4
>"Our government is corrupt and we have crooked cops, that's bad"
>Yakuza 5
>"Certain aspects of our culture we idolize actually are pretty shitty and people are taken advantage of

>>723715407
Good campaign but halofags praised the multiplayer too much.
Zoomers got their hands on it and called it slow shit like the boomers back then

>>723748268
Yakuza 6 is basically the same "government bad"
Yakuza 7 is "people who want foreigners out sometimes are worse than the foreigners themselves"
Haven't played 8 yet
Judgment is "Our medical system encourages fraud and also our legal system is fucked"
Lost Judgment is "our legal system is fucked in a different way but vigilantism isn't the answer"

>>723748268
>crooked cops and corruption = Japanese culture
Like I said, bullshit lmao

>>723713706
What the fuck do you mean

>>723748405
Coordinating with organized crime was in fact a Japanese problem in ways it wasn't in other countries. The yakuza existed to begin with in response to the effects of WW2

>>723748537
organized crime in japan existed long before WW2, they weren't invented as a response to it

>>723748268
>>Yakuza 2
>foreign Infiltrators are a threat to organized crime and it makes all of us less safe
ftfy

>>723748537
>The yakuza existed to begin with in response to the effects of WW2
What do you gain from posting lies that can be deboonked with a google search? Real question here because this is some cartoony shit lmao

why did they do it?

>>723748830
Because for some reason they believe putting "famous" actors in their videogames is going to bring in more players. I don't know if that's true but I doubt it.

now it really is no wonder why they're including mine gaiden with this, i wonder just how much else will be cut and edited beyond what we already know

>>723748913
Didn't that work for Judgment with Yagami's actor?

>>723748604
>>723748694
Modern form really took off but yeah I guess. The Mafia existed before Prohibition too

>>723748913
Chigyus on 5ch think that Kagawa was brought in for the sake of marketing on controversy. The longer he causes butthurt, the more he's reposted in some petitions and other takedown campaigns, the more publicity the game itself will get.

The really ridiculous thing is that Yokoyama could still cast Kagawa but make him a new character. Kei Ibuchi in Majima's saga was some celebrity. Kagawa could be a major character in Mine's gaiden and nobody would complain.

>>723749064
Not the same to have a famous actor as the protag than playing some secondary antagonist.

>>723749283
I'M MAD!

>>723749064
Kimutaku was a boy band celebrity at the peak of his career. It's like in 2040 someone tried to market a game using one of the BTS members as the face and voice of the protagonist.

hamazaki looking the way he added so much to his character and made his redemption a fun ride. the new guy looks like an accountant.

>>723748404
I'd say 8 is basically "People who were involved in bad things in their past are treated like criminals in perpetuity despite trying to reform their life and make it up to society"

I honestly don't know what the messages of Kenzan, Ishin, BP1, BP2, or Dead Souls are as a whole.
>Dead Souls I guess is "Becoming slaves to our vices isn't good and we need to show restraint."
>For BP1 I think it's something like criticism of how prevalent insurance fraud or at least government corruption in that industry is.
>BP2 would have to be something like "Tragic events that happen during your childhood can have a dramatic impact on your future so don't let them consume your thoughts".
Kenzan and Ishin I am 100% lost on though. At best for Ishin I can say that we have to push for our own futures but that's so broad of a theme.

>>723749681
The biggest message in Ishin seemed to be that even sworn enemies have to ally for a common cause. A secondary message would be that the end result is more important than preserving one's public identity and reputation.

rgg still needs to apologize for ishin demake

>>723749160
That doesn't explain every other recast

>>723750431
lol

>>723750760
I still never downloaded them

>>723750440
Nu-Rikiya was in Tokyo Vice, and Yokoyama tends to obsess with the latest TV series or anime he watched. I have no idea where nu-Nakahara came from though.

>>723750847
Their only purpose is to slap into your side decks for the free stat buffs. As actual usable cards they're on par with commons it's genuinely insane how bad they are.

>>723710135
Weed is for losers and musicians who kill themselves at 27. Follow the path of musicians who die 70 years young from being shot by Shadow the Hedgehog and drink alcohol instead.

i'm playing yakuza 5, is it worth to keep playing this series at this point?

>>723751673
Spinoffs might be more fun than mainline games past that point. 6 runs on a tech demo engine and has straight up unfinished maps and combat system.

>>723749681
>"People who were involved in bad things in their past are treated like criminals in perpetuity despite trying to reform their life and make it up to society"
Most of /v/ doesn't themselves don't accept this message, in regards to others.

>>723751673
>is it worth to keep playing
It's entertainment. Keep playing if you have fun, drop them if you don't.
If you're unsure, stopping at 6 as the final game might be better, just to see what should have been the end of Kiryu's story

>>723751803
/v/'s archetypical Great Satan, Anita Sarkeesian, has basically conceded that she was wrong about everything she said so

>>723751881
She can start posting here if she plays Yakuza 3 and doesn't get filtered by the combat.

>>723751881
She did?

>>723751771
>>723751834
desu i just wanted to play yakuza 7 since i mainly just play JRPG's these days.

>>723752145
She always hated modern woke, partially because she's very anti-transgender stuff and partially because it meant her preferred form of millennial feminism was made obsolete

I want to try Persona but I'm afraid of becoming trans.

>>723752268
>Anita is a fucking TERF
lmfao

>>723752863
One of her most (in)famous tropes from her original videos was "Man in a Dress," she used it to describe women who "acted and had emotions of men, not women"

>>723752848
That's Undertale. Persona's only a risk if you were an absolute complete loser in high school. Like not even fitting into a nerdy clique or something, just a total fucking loser loner who everyone thought was a weirdo. Is that you, Anon?

>>723753762
N-No...

>>723710135
>zero tolerance laws
>oh but let paul mccartney in because he's famous
Reminder if you're famous the laws literally do not apply to you

>>723709913
why do americans and twitterfags get so fucking mad when something happens between two cosenting grown ass ADULTS

>>723756236
>Pay for time in hostess club
>"Rule: Do not touch our staff"
>Touch staff
>"Sir you are banned, this is not acceptable"
>"REEEEEEEEEEEE"

I want mainline Yakuza to be action again.
Also they will never really retire Kiryu, will they?
I bought IW this latest sale and I'm not really feeling it. Sorry, Ichiban.

>>723758493
At this point I believe that Kuroda would have to die or suffer illness serious enough to force him to retire from voice acting.