Thread 723712375

>An enormous Amazon Web Services (AWS) outage is having a huge impact across the internet, and gaming has not escaped the damage.
>Games of all types, from Fortnite to Wordle to Roblox have been affected by the AWS outage and appear down for huge amounts of people today. Problems started at about 7.30am BST (that's 2.30am ET) when gamign services started having huge spikes on the outage-detecting website Downdetector.
>The root of the problems lie Amazon Web Services, but no specific cause is known yet: the Amazon Web Services dashboard just shows an "operational issue" in North Virginia. The AWS dashboard says "engineers were immediately engaged and are actively working on both mitigating the issue".
>Anyway, the effect of the outage has been massive and is ongoiung in the gaming world with storefronts, online games, and more being interrupted. Im here to bring you the latest as we try and understand what happenbed and hope that services come back online soon.

https://archive.is/UeK3g

>>723712375 (OP)
Nothing of value then

So this is why ZZZ wouldn't launch when I clicked on it in Ebin store, nothing would happen. Huh.

I don't play those games and don't use EGS

Is it really such a good idea to have one company control most of the internet, and more and more games?

>>723712375 (OP)
Man it would be so damn easy to take all of the western internet down

>>723712565
Yes.

My boss would tell us the main motive for killing every physical server in our now defunct datacenter in favor of AWS was that Amazon would never go down.

How many millions are they losing per hour you reckon?

>>723712565
It isn’t but a lot of rich people aren’t smart

>>723712658
Tens of millions, and a lot of faith

Next time use Azure, loser.

>>723712604
Die jew

>>723712760
It's very smart for them to do that from a selfish perspective.

>>723712375 (OP)
not my problem

>>723712375 (OP)
>gamign
>ongoiung
>and are actively working on both mitigating the issue".
I sure hope this guy doesn't consider himself a journalist, because jesus tap dancing christ that's an attrocious excuse for english.

You know what isn't down? The download link to The Frydarian Tale.
Check it:
https://fygoon.com/game.html

>>723712565
oy vey cut it with the anti semitism

>>723712375 (OP)
This doesn't affect me and I don't care.

>>723712375 (OP)
>the gaming world
woah how do i get there?

>>723712980
>Basedfaces everywhere except for the blue hag on the left

>>723713119
Get and use the going-into-videogames machine.

>>723713219
She's the Eisbolde Queen and she's a very impersonal mistress. Then again, if you lived alone in a mountain where the only company you have are ice monsters, yetis, and arctic wolves, you'd be cold yourself.

>>723712375 (OP)
how does this affect you personally?

remember when youtube went down a few days ago?

>>723712375 (OP)
All according to keikaku

Wanna take a guess which storefront isn't down?

>>723713559
Has to be related, it wasn't just Youtube. I bet the US is in the middle of a cyberwar.

>>723713698
I wonder by who and why. If it was China, it would 100% be made public.

AAAAAAHHHH NOOOO NOT WORLDLE AAAAHHHH

>We could have had ipv6, decentralized internet, end to end connections for everyone, free information, no censorship
>Instead half the internet is fagman servers and the other is bot spam
You have no idea how much they stole from us

>>723714483
>We could have had ipv6, decentralized internet, end to end connections for everyone, free information, no censorship
this is beyond wishful thinking
its never going to happen because the feds cant control it

>>723714483
Well they're the ones who made worldwide internet a thing

>>723714552
Of course they won't allow anything close to freedom of information
That's the point
>>723714621
Let's see how long that lasts before internet splinters eventually

>>723712565
no you don't get it, consolidating the market reduces overhead and this means cheaper services for the end user
>but can't you make the same argument for nationalizing the infrastructure
what are you a dirty fucking commie?

>>723712565
Yes, it is. But this would be irrelevant if the games weren't live-service garbage, so nothing of value was lost.

>>723714751
No bacause with no competition you get paper bridges like in china

>>723712565
I literally cannot work right now due to the outage lmao

>>723712806
Yeah they still go down sometimes like just before the crowdstrike thing happened

>>723712760
>a lot of rich people aren’t smart
Fuck i must be beyond retarded then...

>>723712565
No, it is not. But this would be irrelevant if the games weren't live-service garbage, so nothing of value was lost.

>>723714483
We could still have an amazing net if the undersea cables were cut and continents were isolated from each other.

>>723714707
Goyim won't do shit

>>723712980
Scalie Cris

>>723712565
AWS is just ridicuously good. I use it to set up integrations at work and it's so much better than GCS.

>>723714483
the internet as a global thing has failed, I'm just happy the internet protocol exists and I can do stuff on my LAN

>>723715010
That's really the crux of it. Games affected by this outage are all games that are inherently bad. Bad in a way that they harm the overral industry and game development community. If anything, I celebrate this outage. Maybe these terminally online dopamine dripped gamers will check out their singleplayer game collections.

>>723714751
No one argues for market consolidation you tard. If you're going to make fun of a philosophy at least know what you're making fun of.

>>723715282
>Maybe these terminally online dopamine dripped gamers will check out their singleplayer game collections.
Multiplayer isn't inherently evil, tho. As long as it can be played without having to phone home to verify your digital rights.
LAN, Direct IP, split-screen, hot seat, all of them are good, fun, and DRM-free.
Hell, Jason Rohrer's catalogue is nothing but live-service games that are in the public domain, and thus anyone can set up servers without Rohrer being able to prevent it*.
*except for trademarks, but that's okay

>>723714751
don't you know beuracracy is incredible efficient and quick moving when done by a private business. it's only slow and expensive when done by government

>>723717029
This but unironically

>>723717029
This but slightly unironically.
Private companies have to be efficient because downtime = no revenue = inability to pay worker = work shuts down = no jobs = thousands of people lose their secure income.

Government = lol you're not gonna do shit anyways.

>>723715067
This. Web without browns

>>723717448
>Private companies have to be efficient because downtime = no revenue = inability to pay worker = work shuts down = no jobs = thousands of people lose their secure income.
when a libertarian pretends he has ever worked a job

i swear all I've heard abut for the last 6 months is everyone either being down for extended periods or being cyber attacked
card machines in shop constantly down n shit

>wait what the fuck do you mean i'm on fortnite right no-
>go into lobby
uh oh
shouldn't have done that

>>723714751
>consolidating the market reduces overhead and this means cheaper services for the end user
No one says this. The argument from free market libertarians is that big corporations use the government to maintain their monopoly with cronyism, and the solution to this is less government, not more.

So that's why I can't access canvas and do my college homework...

>>723712375 (OP)
Guys, let's host most of the internet and other networks on a relatively small network of servers, what could possibly go wrong?

>>723712806
I refuse to give Microsoft even a cent. Say what you will about Amazon but at least they provide cheap overnight shipping.

If servers for Gachas I would be so freaking happy.

Hahahaha. This affects a third party login service for a permit portal for my local libshit govt.

I told them this was a bad idea a year ago but noooo "we must outsource because IT is hard!!!"
You reap what you fucking sow when you consolidate the internet you dumb normies and liberals who want to spend more tax dollars on welfare

>>723717647
>libertarian
I'm no a libertarian but ok.
I'm just pointing out that Government doesn't have to be efficient or even effective because people won't do anything either way.
If job security was a priority I'd just get a government job desu

>>723717819
The counter argument against free market is that hostile state actors can wiggle themselves into your system and corrupt it from inside. A foreigner should never be allowed to own land in your country.

>>723717920
Fucking zoomers stop using apps

>>723712375 (OP)
Good.Burn all Date Centers.

>>723712565
my dad works for AWS (executive sales manager).
he's says their main selling point isn't a monopoly on datacenters but a monopoly on personal who are trained on their systems. Its much easier to find an engineer trained on AWS than Microsoft Azure or IBM/Oracle/Google cloud systems.

>>723718423
and my point is that every large bureaucracy is incredibly inefficient. you'll find that all these large multinational business also insist upon themselves delivering much less, charging much more and people still use them anyway. and god forbid you try and use their customer support to resolve an issue

>>723712375 (OP)
You instinctively know that not a single actual game was affected.

>>723712980
It's between you and that GloamSnarl guy as to who is more relentless. Bokube in a close third.

>>723712375 (OP)
No wonder the shill threads suddenly stopped

proof that we shouldnt keep shit in one cloud place. centralization doesnt work

>>723717815
wait nevermind it works just fine, just a bit slow compared to the usual speed

>>723718506
>A foreigner should never be allowed to own land in your country
That's not how natural rights work. Land ownership is a natural right that the state is not allowed to infringe upon. Banning foreigners from owning legitimately acquired land violates that right.

>>723718594
Bro it's not me who chose to use Canvas, it's my college.

>>723712565
if a game is hosted by amazon, then it's a shit non-game, simple as
same for it it's made in unstraight troongine

>>723719092
Let me guess the class is run by a roastie

>>723713119
first you have to take hrt for 7 years
then you have to swear absolute fealty to the demoning subhuman jewish race

>>723719286
It's not just a single class. Basically every class uses canvas. It's like this learning platform that a bunch of schools use, similar to blackboard. Professors post modules and assignments there.

us-east-1 is completely broken so I literally can't do my job that I'm being paid for
I'm programming my porn game to make it seem like I'm being productive

isnt this the reason redundancy exist? this is why you keep either alternate infrastructure in OTHER companies or on-premise.

>>723719654
In the corporate world short term cost cutting is more important than long term savings, bean counters live like the world beyond the next financial quarter is not real.

>>723719654
In theory you could just use another AWS availability zone for redundancy. No reason to host all your shit in a single one.

>>723719583
what's your porn game is about, anon?

This has been happening for weeks now.

It's because you didn't upgrade to Windows 11. This is your fault.

>>723719043
>we should be allowed to take over your cities by buying up all the real estate with statefunds and if you oppose that your a socialist!!
chingchong spotted

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>>723719803
Knowing corpos, they'll put all their backup eggs in us-west-2 and then there will be some crazy outage where both us-east-1 and us-west-2 go down at once.

@723720141
sweet lord you redditoids are fucking retarded

>>723719803
in this case, none of them are working

Well, now we see they were lying about redundancy

>>723713619
Many steam games use AWS like Dead by Daylight lol.

>>723712469
Hoyoverse app exists, you dont need Epic Luncher.

>>723712658
2 dollars

>>723720258
antichina is always welcome 24/7/365

>>723717819
Small government is the biggest 70iq indicator out there. Go visit a southern state, and you will see exactly who that shit benefits. Spoiler alert it's the good old boys, and everyone else can go starve

>>723721261
Agreed, fuck China. Also the anons who thinks we should segregate the internet are right. Please disconnect China, India and Russia from the internet. It would make the internet 10x better instantly. Also less videogame cheaters.

will middle management finally understand the meaning of the phrase "cloud is just someone else's server"?

>>723719043
I literally do not care what a foreigner thinks about ownership within my country.

The best thing about this is that no one will learn anything from it.

>>723721947
yep. big companies just want progress to resume, not preventing failures in the future

>>723712375 (OP)
Amazon No Service lmao!

>>723712375 (OP)
>Games of all types
I was playing my pirated copies of Grand Bazaar just fine. Looks like a ((you)) problem

>>723715067
I agree. Let the westoids stew with their own woketard and puritans.

>>723717920
hey Sol

>>723712565
There's like 3 different cloud providers, they chose to pick this one or use their own infrastructure. No company owns the internet yet

>>723721331
Southern states are not "small government", they're just more selectively authoritarian. Sure you can own guns, but you can't smoke weed, or get an abortion, or be gay, or visit websites without providing an ID.

>>723715335
>a philosophy
at least you're honest and call it a philosophy because no one who touts muh free market know anything about economics

>>723714979
Literally nothing to do with Azure or even Winblows, moron.

>>723712565
I didn't even get affected so yes?

>>723722859
Then there is no such thing as small government irl. Unless you're a libertarian retard. Funnily enough, there are a ton of those in the south, too. They're all 40-50 year old divorced alcohol8ic dudes that inherited a house and / or a business and just hate paying taxes

>>723712980
Can you fuck off fagoon? Thanks.

>>723721331
Good little bootlicking retard spewing stupid and outdated talking points. Does AWS host BlueSky and that's why you're here?

>>723723610
Schizo

>>723718720
ur daddy sounds smart

>>723714483
I genuinely don't think completely exposed IPv6 is a good idea.
I know people love to shit on NAT, but NAT is actually a good thing in many ways.

>>723712375 (OP)
Turns out monopolies and oligopolies are bad. Who knew?

They offer redundancy so if they didn't buy it they are shit outta luck.

>>723714483
Anon, IPv6 addresses are so damn long that how would you copy them down to set up a printer if it isn't auto-detected?

Ross won.

it is going to be so fucking funny when a real war breaks out and the internet goes down for months. zoomies and phone users will just end themselves.

>>723723884
I and many other engineers did. But we were told by our managers "it's to save costs."

>>723712565
Stop being so antisemetic anon

>>723723884
>monopolies and oligopolies are bad
Only when ran by corner cutting retards forced to chase short term profit.
Many things would work better as a monopoly if the heads were just a bit reasonable.

>>723724276
eh all this will do is prop up all the smart companies that kept their shit on premise. Unfortunately, even the small companies I know use either azure, AWS, or IBM at this point. We'll return to the stone age if even two of them goes down.

>>723724453
>Many things would work better as a monopoly if the heads were just a bit reasonable.
Ah, the ole communist argument of "we just need better people to run it."

Where is Robloxanon?

>>723719043
Natural rights don't exist. Rights are granted and preserved by the state through armed force. That's the main reason taxes exist, centralising wealth in order to maintain an army that protects the government system from external forces.

>>723723972
They genuinely made a mistake in using hexadecimal to represent IPv6 addresses, they should have used base32 or base64

>>723719043
Most of the laws (in any country) that touches upon "Natural Land Ownership" was originally penned before we had planes and instant communication across the entire globe. It's fucking retarded to act like border and state security should stay stuck in the 18th century while everything around it changes.

Why don't game devs just host their own servers? All you need is a PC and an internet connection.

>>723724498
Read it as you will, doesn't change that I'm correct. Even if it's an utopian dream.
My big city internet service isn't that much better than my monopolic small family beach town house's despite having 6 companies vs 1. There are just six times as many fiber lines in the poles/underground pipes.

>>723724810
because having on centralised server is a horrible idea for any service, let alone one with 400 million monthly users

Wait so using AI signed drivers of trillions of dollars of infrastructure was a bad idea?

>>723724810
Why do that when you can just host a master server that adds IP addresses to a list and then let the community sort out the hosting on their own? It could potentially save these massive game corpo retards MILLIONS of dollars on hosting if they just did what 95% of PC games did in the fucking 90's and early '00.

>>723724876
your fantasy doesn't work. the only way to get people to comply is to put them all on equal footing of competition. Always worked this way. Thats why when a company gets big enough, they try to use the government to cement their foothole and say they deserve to have the monopoly. Which is why public utilities is a faux and always has been.

is ubisoft connect down too or is it just a buggy pos like always

>uplay can't load anything
>ea play will open, can launch bf6
>but can't connect to servers

>>723725194
Im loving this. Its exposing to me all the dumb services that put their shit on aws in the first place

>>723724498
Crucial shit like payment systems should be a state run monopoly. 5 minutes is a fucking eternity when there's yet another outtage on the privately run card readers
t. retail wagie

>>723725194
yeah
>4th party company can brick your steam games
lol

>Fortnit-
*snore*
>Roblox
Pedo game
>Epic Games Store
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>723725261
To be fair it's really just AWS #1 and Azure #2, also google I guess, nobody else really exists. nobody runs their own servers anymore really.

>>723725279
>Crucial shit like payment systems should be a state run monopoly. 5 minutes is a fucking eternity when there's yet another outtage on the privately run card readers
You want the same government that runs the post office and the dmv to run payment systems? HAHAHAHA

>>723725183
>Which is why public utilities is a faux and always has been.
Dunno mate my water service still waters, my gas service still gases and my electric service still electrifies with only 1 company.
Meanwhile my internet still coughs every now and then and has a +5% over speed to -65% under speed speed range bar in both houses despite the oh so great capitalistic competition background.

>>723712375 (OP)

I CANT FLOSS!

I CANT FLOSS!

>>723725279
Do you people not have offline backups? Here they just failover to offline mode for up to 24 hours if they lose connection.

>>723725558
Enjoy your gingivitis

>>723725183
>Thats why when a company gets big enough they buy out the competition and kill startups with undercutting or buyouts so they can retain their monopoly
Fixed, no need to thank me.

>>723725283
Trying to play HoMM 7 too lmao

>>723725485
>Dunno mate my water service still waters, my gas service still gases and my electric service still electrifies with only 1 company.
Water goes out. Gas goes out. Electricity definitely goes out. Everytime. And youre stuck with the same company. No competition either.

In a non kiked world, the services would be ten times better in every way. you can't imagine a world without socialist kikes, but it exists. Use to anyway

>>723712565
What's the uptime of the other big providers?

>>723725563
it's becoming increasingly an idiocracy world where companies just let other companies deal with that so they can "get more money"

>>723725638
You do realize that being bought out is still a choice right? Also, startups are made specifically to be sold. They never were meant to be a mortar and brick company like your average joe. They arent the same.

>>723725652
Yeah, maybe I get one or two hours of power outage a month on summer. Never had any issues with water or gas. I have permanent issues with internet.

>>723725636
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>723724336
What they hid was that it's to reduce short term costs and delay costs to later so they can keep their Q1,2,3,4 or whatever numbers good...for now.

>>723725474
That would unironically be better than have some random jew ban me from paying for anything they don't like even though its 100% legal in my country, It's funny how quickly people forget what happened to steam and Itch.io just a month or so ago.

The fact that more countries aren't up in arms about the fact that some some duopoly in the US have more power on their own soil than them is scary as shit.

>>723712629

Go back to the chess club, dork.

>>723725474
>whataboutism
That's a skill issue on your part. I never claimed to be a burger.
I have been retail waging for 25 years though, and the card readers used to be a government monopoly until some retarded politician insisted everything should be privatized. Probably heavily incentivized by the promise of a cushy """consultant""" job, once done with politics. Outtages was something that happened maybe twice a year at most back then, but now they happen on a monthly basis.

>>723712658
>How many millions are they losing per hour you reckon?
zero, people that are going to spend money aren't going to not spend the money, they're going wait until they can spend the money.

>>723725895
you dont need the government nor a jew to run it. Just make it independent. Truly. Not that federal reserve shit that is secretly a government entity. Go back to Us notes, gold, and use crypto (which is literally the better peer to peer bank system that triumphs all bank systems in the world).

>>723726058
>That's a skill issue on your part. I never claimed to be a burger.
Even with America's shitty government agencies, we are still ten times better than any other country's services

>>723726182
This is unfortunately the truth.

>>723725758
I'll take hostile takeover for 500, Alex.
>startups works the way i say because they just do and no one would ever want to actually continue their startups nu uh
okay

Saars....

>>723726249
>brings up horror stories about post office and dmv
>w-we're still better than everyone else though!
lolmao

>>723726182
Hell they might even make money from fleecing insurance companies but they deserve it so whatever.

>>723718832
The hell is a GloamSnarl? Is that like Galduen of the Abyss or whatever?

>>723726297
>startups works the way i say because they just do and no one would ever want to actually continue their startups nu uh
Except thats literally why they are made, jackass.

t. worked for many in SV and Jew York

>>723726506
But we are. Compared to the rest of the world, America at least beats everyone else simply by having more competition (even if it's fake)

>>723725457
Oracle? I think they have some stuff.
Otherwise you are hosting your own or living in some other datacenter.

>>723726716
Oracle is owned by another jew, btw. Who recently bought Tiktok and now they own the data behind it.

We live in such a jew eat goyim world.

>>723726249
Spoken like a true red'white'n'blue retard that has never left their country. I'm not saying that other countries are better at everything, but that every country has that one thing that their state is just autistically focused and good at to the point where the agencies in place in the US just can't hold a candle to.

>>723712565
it sucks when even job requirements have AWS/GCP/Azure listed
Those fags really force it onto people

>>723712565
No but it's convenient and works pretty much all the time. Until it doesn't.

>>723726884
Tell me one country that has government services better than the US's. I'll wait.

>>723727016
>No but it's convenient and works pretty much all the time
Actually, it doesnt work all the time. As someone who has worked with all three, support through these companies is insane. And you're on their time, not your own. Imagine waiting eight hours for Amazon to get back to you on why your server went down.

Meanwhile, when I worked with on premise data centers, we had shit up and running in two hours at most, then the data center guys went back to bed. Literally how it should be.

>>723714751
>cheaper services for the end user
AWS - or really any of the big hyperscalers - is literally one of the most expensive hosting option

>>723724728
This would be like saying free speech no longer applies because we have the internet. Rights are not volatile, they are absolute and non-negotiable. Even if you could solve some issues by violating rights, it wouldn't make violating them good.

You guys are all retards so this will probably go straight through you, but only a subset of services in a single AWS region are degraded. If you are a company on the scale of those games don’t host your services in at least two regions then that’s 100% your fault.
My job is to design infrastructure that doesn’t fail, and I test it by turning off the region and checking for disruptions. It’s really easy
These posters for example must be brainlets, but they are not alone
>>723712629
>>723718391
>>723719006

>>723727096
Literally the Swedish version of the "DMV", instead of having to stand in line in what looks like a fucking insane asylum you just get a text message and/or an E-mail or letter saying "Hello! You've got an appointment for [TIME] at [PLACE] so just be sure to be there on time with a valid ID and we'll do the rest in 10 min!" and if you need an appointment you literally just go online, pick a time and place and then be there, no fuss, no waiting in line and no hidden fees or cranky retards.

The same can be said for Swedish taxes where you just have to log-in to a government website when you get a letter and/or E-mail reminder that its time to check you taxes, look over what the state have already calculated for you so that there are no mistakes (if you want) and then you just press "I agree" and your done, for FREE and while only spending about 2-5 min of your life on it.

>clock into my warehouse job
>getting paid to sit around and do nothing because of this

>>723725279
You habe no idea what you are talking about. Government software services are commisioned to the cheapest bidder, often lack in-house emergency response engineers, and if they do they will take 0 trouble out of their mandated work time. Also reputation loss for downtime won't bankrupt the organization, unlike private companies. Unless it is the pentagon or something fucking crucial you can bet your Dunning-Kruger ass is will be up to 100 times slower than a private company

>>723727617
No you absolute retard, because nothing would be lost if a government just decided to say "If you want to own land in our country then you have to live here (permanently) and pay our taxes" except for the parasites that feeds on the loopholes that currently exists. If your some rich Chinese, Russian or American asshole you shouldn't be allowed to muscle in on foreign land when you've never even set foot on any soil connected to it even once in your life since that is a MASSIVE security risk and it muscles out the native population from their own fucking country.

>>723712375 (OP)
>USAID goes away
>fortnite is down

>>723712375 (OP)
>>723712375 (OP)
I can't get into my college classes and this is problem. I have assignments to do lol

>>723717547
Browns are at your front door already.

>>723723767
You can still have a firewall without having NAT, no?

>>723712565
no
its always been bad
centralization works against the consumer and thats what these companies want
they just managed to sway the normies and masses into thinking its a benefit for them

>Indian holiday, Indians aren't at work today
>major outage happens
actual proof that Indian tech workers keep the world afloat.

>>723723704
Lmao get fucked BlueSky tourist. More of you faggots come here every day and use "chud" or other shit unironically. It's far too common or sincere to bait all the time.

>Timfags spent the whole month laughing at Steam's outages
>they completely disappear when EGS dies

>>723712565
Don't ask questions goy

>>723712565
it costs a shitload of money to run servers of the size necessary for modern internet traffic, and obviously only big companies have the money to fund those servers. The alternative, of course, is the government running the servers. Which means feds can directly spy on webtraffic with impunity. Pick your poison: glowniggers reading your emails, or Google/Amazon shilling you advertisements.

>>723714483
and who would pay for all this?
this is the question that always stumps utopian freetards. Even the biggest collaborative open source project in the world, Linux, is utter garbage compared to its closed-source competition and it took 30 years just to get to a point where it could be considered 'good enough' to be functional as a daily driver OS.

>>723718790
no shit. the difference is, the private sector has alternatives. it has choice. you don't HAVE to use AWS. just because a lot of people do, doesn't mean it's the only option. You're critiquing without offering any constructive conversation, which is telltale fifth columnist activity.

welcome to another episode of "why?"
tonight: everyone in the world uses the same internet services and all the servers are located in the same place. so, what happens when something breaks?

>>723732298
>Pick your poison: glowniggers reading your emails, or Google/Amazon shilling you advertisements.
Why not both

That explains why work hasn't brought our Amazon shipments today

>>723720987
DBD being down is a net positive though

>>723712565
>>723712843
until it negatively affects them
the myth that the ultra rich think that a world collapse isn't going to affect them is always retarded. You got your billion dollar doomsday bunker and tons of food and weapons and think you wouldn't become a target? Even if some pleb won't get in you're going to trust your paid military, paid with a currency that's useless now, to not just kill you and take over? You really think anyone is going to listen mark suckerburger or jeff bento box when shit really hits the fan and there's no status quo to uphold?

>>723712375 (OP)
>always online digital games are the futu-ACK

>>723712375 (OP)
This is why community servers are so important. This will literally kill the internet once the western economy collapses and these companies go out of business. All your games will be useless then because their servers will be gone.

>>723732814
despite the memes, the feds generally can't pick through your webdata at their own discretion. They have to go to the courts and request a warrant that they then serve to the owners of that data aggregation. Of course, the NSA has been caught using backdoor strongarming and proxy agents to muscle their way in without public court orders, but that is (supposed to be) illegal and therefore could easily be shut down by any politician with a pair of balls. If the infrastructure was nationalised it would also become much more common and complete because they'd no longer have to bully a middleman into handing it over, because they'd have direct access to everything and the legal right to pick through it with a fine-toothed comb, and would be much harder to put an end to because of it.

>>723726182
That is incorrect, they are not going to be paid for the downtime. Any money they would have made during the downtime is lost forever, because they were not providing services for that period of time and the period of time is now in the past.

>>723712565
It’s not a monopoly technically.
But it’s a highly forced illogical fad, similar to ESG.
As in a lot of these fund managers egg on their shareheld companies to adopt cloud shit because it’s le good and we’re going to complain as a shareholder if you don’t.
Nevermind a lot of these financial funds have cloud providers like amazon and microsoft as their highest performing stocks. That’s just a coincidence.

>>723733231
>step 1 ask the UK's GCHQ to steal an American citizens data
>step 2 have them give it to the NSA
gg ez

>>723733761
which takes a lot of diplomacy to actually make happen, as compared to
>we own the servers, and therefore can watch you download 30tb of dolphin porn in realtime

>>723712565
No.

>>723712375 (OP)
WTF I love Amazon now

>>723727743
I find it 100% believable that big companies skip on redundancy failsafes. Those greedy fucks only care about profit margins.

>>723733847
Precursor to the 5 eyes agreement and it's expansions have been complete nearly your entire life even if you were in your 30's, they've been data sharing the entire time.

>>723734000
despite having extradition treaties there are still Americsn fugitives in the UK who the British government refuses to hand over. it's not as cut and dry as you think.

welcome to hour 12 of
>we have narrowed down the source
>we are making progress
>we have applied mitigations

>>723734535
We are redeeming the mitigation saar.

>>723734704
The mitigations will continue until the morale improves

No wonder that i saw lots of kids outside today.

>>723727743
I'm a brainlet bc my libshit govt decided to use tylerportico auth instead of a local SQL database? Nah, fuck off. You're right only on logic, but not in my case. My state is becoming more retarded than California.
Captcha
>D0XNY

>>723734535
I've been working since 3am because of this shit.

No matter how much you hate them it's not enough.

>>723712469
>this retard plays zzz on epic instead of just the base hoyo launcher
>this retard uses the epic platform at all
thanks for confirming your age, you shouldn't be here.

>>723732545
community servers
torrents
done
>b-b-bu
done.

>>723735351
again, who pays for it? electricity isn't free. hardware isn't free.

>>723732684
>he private sector has alternatives
Not anymore, it doesn't, lel. Private sector had alternatives in the early 2000's.

>>723735345
I use Epic for Wuwa too. Too lazy to reinstall it on Steam.

>>723735345
>this retard plays chink gachas at all
you aren't doing great either, bud

>>723735639
In order to participate in any network you need electricity and hardware anyways.
The only limit to the scale of a decentralized network is participation.

>>723712375 (OP)
>The root of the problems lie Amazon Web Services, but no specific cause is known yet
did they ever find out the cause? My money is on jeet code pushed to prod

>>723736008
and who pays for it? stop dodging the question.

>>723735705
not everybody uses AWS.

>>723736335
are you retarded or something?

>>723712375 (OP)
oh no the consequences of hiring jeets

>>723715239
it hasn't tho
shitholes like afghanistan voluntarily cutting themselves off are just going to set themselves back

>>723736551
Are you?

>>723712604
Based straightforward chad. Of course it fuckin is. It's more efficient

>10 minutes past what was supposed to be an update
ruh roh

>>723712375 (OP)
Please let it be hackers

that's why i can't use hinge

>>723712375 (OP)
That's what faggots get for playing online dependent games.

>>723712375 (OP)
>MFW I am studying AWS for this semester in two classes.

If you noticed it at all, consider ending yourself or finding better games

>there is a generational divide of steam users and epic users because zoomers stuck with epic because of the free garbage since they didn't have much of a game library yet due to their age
man, zoomers really never had a chance. every facet of their lives has been gamed right from the start by corpos, and they just happily sit back and willingly allow themselves to become digital cattle. scary.

>>723713796
Israel will do this shit then blame some shithole they're beefing with at the time

>>723735345
>You eat your diarrhea off of an asbestos plate? Wooow I eat mine off a paper one, loser

>>723737178
>my corporate DRM manager is better than yours
it never began for PC "gamers" born after 1990

>>723733326
it's deferred revenue

>>723712375 (OP)
oh that's why my dildo delivery got delayed

uh oh, zoomies are having a melty

>>723727340
It's cheap to get into but expensive to keep or get out of.

>>723732298
It doesn't cost a lot to run servers, you just get attacked non-stop if you do, that's what costs a lot.

>>723736208
this happened with something else recently being updated and we didn't know wtf it was....some certificate with ups was changed and fucked up our whole checkout process. Not AWS but perfect example of undocumented changes that fucked people up

>>723737497
It's expensive as fuck monthly.

>>723712565
Give me 5 alternatives. Assume I'm a multi billion dollar company.

>>723737587
it doesn't cost a lot when your monthly traffic is a couple thousand people. it scales exponentially; something the size of Google's servers is millions a week.

>>723712565
First day on the internet?

I think the mcsonalds app is down

>>723737954
ok fatso

>>723719221
>unstraight troongine
Can you at least fucking try?

You Will Never Be A Wit, your sense of humour is as real as a trannies vagina.

>>723737178
>zoomers stuck with epic
Besides Fortnite and free games I doubt they "stuck" with EGS
They love whatever FOTM streamers like which is 99% of the time is on Steam not EGS

>>723719043
>Banning foreigners from owning legitimately acquired land violates that right.
You're right.
Now lets see how they legitimately aquired it.

>>723738104
as evidenced by the retards playing gacha on epic, they are choosing to use epic beyond just fortnite because that's all they know, likely due to the fact that they got sucked into it because of fortnite and now have a "library" of free, bargain bin slop on epic.

>>723733629
You are not better at running a in house database than AWS or other cloud providers are. In house database managers are some of the biggest retards on the planet that take days to fix outtages

>>723719221
You have no idea how modern architecture works. Most SaSS products are just AWS under the covers. And if they're not, they have some dependency on them. Or their dependency has a dependency on them and so on.
SSO? Use AWS Cognito
Cold Storage for things like PFP? Use S3
Event monitoring? kinesis and cloudwatch
There's a million different shovel salesmen selling developers on AWS wrappers.

>>723738259
That's also assuming they are zoomers and not just retards
Same shit with playing warframe on Steam when it's not needed

>>723737952
literal cope all of these are open source so anyone can push it

>>723737843
The scaling is in reverse, it costs a lot to get 1000 people monthly but each additional people cost less per people. A curved line that flattens at the end. Some Silicon Valley tech startup could have gotten a couple racks of servers and dedicated climatization in a room in their house and serve millions of people per week. The problems are the spikes, 24/7 uptime and mainly attacks from China and Russia or whoever which makes everyone pass their data to the glowies at Cloudflare.

>>723738670
>literal cope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident

>>723712980
>Goon in the name
I'm scared to click that link.

>>723720098
I would bet money that the outage was caused by windows 11 bricking Amazon's servers.

>>723738776
>Some Silicon Valley tech startup could have gotten a couple racks of servers and dedicated climatization in a room in their house and serve millions of people per week
Till a wildfire hits it or the grid it's reliant on or the supply chain go tits up over some tariffs and can't replace dead drives etc etc
They have massive infra dedicated toward redundancy not just from spikes in traffic

>>723738776
false. bigger servers need more memory, and more electricity. all of that increases in cost exponentially.

>>723739039
nobody uses Windows for servers, it's always dedicated Linux distros.

Epic store is good thoughbeit. Last month ghostrunner 2 was free and it was a great game to play. You just get the free shit and dip I would never have bought deathloop on steam but it was fun to play free on epic.

>>723732746
There's other locations than US-EAST-1, that's on these companies for putting all their eggs in one basket.

>>723739237
false, kirchhoff's laws are linear and so is the cost

>>723739406
Free games are it's only value

>>723714483
ipv6 is just a pain in the ass tbqh

>>723739531
Oh cool. Ill be sure to tell the power company that 1MW and 20MW are basically the same thing since some dead German dude said so

>>723739531
>some egghead living in his parents basement said
and the people who actually work with this equipment on a daily basis say otherwise. I know who I am going to believe.

>>723739713
>>723739785
kek getting upsold by jeets

>>723739832
damn you got free energy? can you tell me about your perpetual motion machine too?

>>723739652
must suck being too retarded to read hex

>>723739979
yes its called solar panels dalit

>>723739713
>>723739979
>1MW costs 1X but 20MW cost 400X okay!? It's supposed to be "exponential" bloody bich I RAPE UR SISTER

>>723720987
>Dead by Daylight
For a minute there I thought you were going to mention a good game.

>>723740353
damn i could buy like 5 panels at harbor freight. brb gonna use my spare bedroom as a data center now that aws is dead

>>723740456
>what do you MEAN you have to build special dedicated infrastructure just to support my needs?
>why would i care about potential blackouts at a nearby hospital?
>the fuck is a substation? i didnt ask for that. i just want power
>oh right like you can just shove more coal into the oven and get me my power
>fucking indian jew retard that infiltrated my powergrid and thinks he can't make more power

>>723738950
It was a name I made up when I was in elementary school and was derived from "Dragoon". I refuse to cower to cum-for-brain freaks and change the name for the day will arrive when that word falls into disuse.

>>723741142
the parables of brown engineering everyone

>>723727743
Reminds me of an old IT job I had.
> Be sys admin for a paper company
> IT director is a pedophile who watches middle school wrestling videos on youtube all day
> IT director tries to get the companies "system" updated from a cobal system that was setup in 1960
> Estimated cost 15k, denied for being too expensive
> Instead ceo approves renovating the conference room with 20k$ worth of chairs
Company was a complete clusterfuck. The first red flag was when I started the job and I discovered the company was in the dirtiest run down street in the state and I saw the vice president asking a legless homeless man to please leave having having pissed themselves and passed out blocking the front entrance

>>723737952
This is why modern software sucks. Everything needs a billion dependencies to work.

>>723733074
lol

>>723712375 (OP)
Still not as funny as when Facebook locked themselves put of their own offices.

>>723712980
N64 if he real

>>723738670
>Push exploits to it

>>723742654
Let me guess, they didn't just smash the windows to get in even if the cost of repair is pennies compared to lost revenue.

>>723741806
listen it's ok if you dont get logistics at scale. its also ok to shitpost. im having fun

>>723742334
there's been a recent shift trending away from dependencies with the recent npm hacks. but yea everything is built on the backs of someone else. that's how technology has always kind of worked.

>>723726884
No, he's right Anon. Everywhere other than America is unironically a shithole. No exceptions.

All this tells me is that the AI bubble WILL be popping soon.

>>723727743
>use a different AWS region
>some tiny component in a service that you use depends on us-east-1 and you go down anyway
>you also go down for two minutes when other_region collapses but this time everyone gets angry at you because "no one else went down"

just load everything into us-east-1, it's the safest option. no one is getting fired over this even if AWS stays down for a week now

>>723712375 (OP)
THE WORLD IS HEALING

>>723712604
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VDTNmHfOE-k

>>723743773
>Europoors will look you dead in the eye and tell you this is better than the United States of America, the Greatest Nation on Earth

>>723746614
>be me back in 2018
>hear that tel aviv is one of the nicest places in the world
>at the time, I was still not fully rp on jews
>be told that Tel Aviv is actually a trash city
>look up pics, and it's basically LA and SF levels of dirty

Holy shit. In hindsight, I just realized that any city ran by jews or black becomes trash. I think the cleanest city I've ever seen was ran by religious whites.

>>723746184
Are those cats alive?

>>723748121
>I think the cleanest city I've ever seen was ran by religious whites.
And which city was that?

>>723720987
Name 10

>>723749068
charlotte or something in carolina. a very religious town.

>>723748885
they will be after they eat all that dang pizza

>>723738565
Better or not is debatable.
But hosting yourself is certainly cheaper.

>>723712565
Yes, now please wait for cloudflare to process your request.

>>723712565
No but it's worth the risk for the powers that be.

looks like they might have actually fixed it now

>>723717819
lolbertarians are cringe. They're almost as naive and gullible as commies frankly.

>>723718506
based
>>723719043
retard. You only allow foreign ownership when you want to attract foreign money, thats it. It should be allowed for a certain period then shut off.

>>723753415
lolberts are soulless psychopaths pretending to be naive, sometimes they drop the mask.

>>723719043
that's correct, foreigners do not have the same rights as citizen

>>723712565
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

>>723712980
This would look way better without the insane bloom. Makes it look cheap IMO.

>>723753415
>These corrupt people that don't give a shit about you is better than these other people that don't give a shit about you
It's all the same shit in the end.

>>723738606
nothing i play uses scamazon shit in the slightest, none of tue retarded shit you listed is used by any of the games i play, you retarded nigger, in fact i have dropped games because they started depending on scamazon's shitty web services that you listed

>>723737612
You mean the CloudStrike debacle that basically fucked every notable airport in the world?

>>723712375 (OP)
>outsource basic thing all to the same company
>get fucking raped when it goes down
This is just a taste of the future.

>>723755275
The future is already here, where 95% of traffic is all bots/AI scrapers. Pic related is a small forum I and a couple hundred others still frequent, where the admin has to spend time monthly setting up new rules to combat the "guest" spam eating away at server resources/bandwidth, which is still fucking expensive to this day for some fucking reason.

>>723756298
>5k bots just eating away bandwith on a literally who forum
fucked up

>>723756298
thats wild. No wonder 99% of forums i try to access info on, no longer let you read the threads without setting up an account. Fucking bots and AI are a blight.

>>723756606
Grok hungers for knowledge. You will provide.

>>723756674
>you vill provide
ftfy

>>723756606
Our admin's put quite a few traps in the new user registration page that isn't visible to a regular browser viewer (hidden forms and javascript shenanigans that the bots fail to not trip), but the majority of the forum is visible to everyone.

I'd rather guests be scraping than a bunch of fake user-accounts though, so it was either keep the forums open to all, or suffer more bots trying to pretend they're humans by necroing old as fuck threads with information they only seem to gleam by the first reply of the current page of the thread. Thankfully the latter has been pretty rare in the past year.

>>723754564
agreed

>>723755275
This is simplifying the issue. us-east-1 from AWS is the oldest service, A LOT of Amazon and third party services rely on it because it was the first to be avaliable. You don't even need to be using it directly, if anywhere during the pipeline of services you're using is on or itself relies on a service using it (recurring), you have an outage.

us-east-1 is a technological bottleneck.