Thread 723733805

So this is it?
The slow rotting death of pokemon as the greedy soulless ghouls of gamefreak milk the franchise dry? Gen 10 could be their apex. A game to celebrate the 10th generation and 30 years of pokemon.
But instead we will most likely get pure garbage slop that the aging millennial nostalgiafags will buy. No different from how Star Wars was raped and sold.

Fuck me, how depressing.

I understand pokemon is allowed on/v/ but there's like 15 fucking threads up right now. Like genuinely fuck off to /vp/

WHY do people keep buying Pokemon games? WHY? The gameplay is shit, the designs are shit, the graphics are shit, the story is shit, the production values are shit, the price is shit, there's literally nothing in these soulless husks of games that isn't the absolute bare minimum effort slop churned out by overworked chinese slaves

>>723734167
Not OP but I buy them because the multiplayer is fun. But they even fucked that up in the newest game, there's no strategy, it's just run up to a guy and spam moves with fucking smash bros items. I genuinely feel scammed.

emma looks cute desu

Pokemon has been dead for over two decades
Why are you acting like this is a new thing?

>>723734562
the multiplayer isn't fun. you can just play showdown. stfu retard

>>723735338
Lol, showdown is run by a bunch of faggots who ban anything they don't like, including basic game mechanics.
They literally banned Sleep as a whole in gen 9

>>723733805 (OP)
DLC will save it
Look at how kino SwSh and ScatVomit's dlc is

>>723736153
good.

>>723733805 (OP)
You have been posting this chat gpt garbage nonsense for days, go take a fucking shower stinko

>>723736258
I feel like you just don't "get" it if you think the DLC in those games are much better than the base game. It's like wow look at this pile of shit but this pile of shit is a little smaller and has sprinkles on it. Like okay?

>>723733805 (OP)
you're only now realizing this? it's been over since they went 3D.

>>723733958
fpbp

>>723733805 (OP)
Anon, if you took the time to play less popular rpgs on the Gambody advanced you'd realize Pokemon is a franchise built around low standard game development fluffed by insanely effective merchandising.

The games have always been the worst part of pokemon.

>>723733805 (OP)
X and Y were the first signs.

>>723736347
the dlc finishes the game. You cant review pokemon games until the DLC is out

>>723734167
retards love to eat shit. just look at how many gacha threads pollute this board on a daily basis

>>723733805 (OP)
>No different from how Star Wars was raped and sold.
No sorry, but this is nowhere near the turd that was made from Star Wars. Pokemon AT MOST has the same quality as games made 20 years ago, but Star Wars was tortured, killed, desecrated and raped multiple times. It's not even comparable.

imagine being the poor soul not only born as a pokemon, but forced to evolve into a male gardevoir

>>723733805 (OP)
>pokemon is dead
>but there are no other game series where i can collect tiny sexgremlin creatures and have them stay like that the whole game
it's so over

>>723733805 (OP)
Pokefans, I BEG YOU. Play a cheaper and more well designed turn based monster collector.
Aethermancer and monster sanctuary are what pokemon should have been maybe 10 years ago.
Just play 1 other monster collector and you will never look back at modern pokemon again

>>723737098
I loved Monster Sanctuary but since it's more of a real RPG rather than a monster collector for babies, my real team got locked in way early and I never really got to try out other monsters

>>723737098
If someone wanted to play something like that, they'd just play one of the Dragon Quest monster tamer games.

>>723737214
They added an update called relics of the ancients or whatever and it added a built in randomizer and nuzlocke mode. you will use a ton of different monsters if you play bravery permadeath

>>723733805 (OP)
nigga, it's been getting worse since gen3

>>723737098
Just play Pokemon romhacks, they are free

>>723737332
But that's exactly what I mean, if there was a permadeath mode and my monster died, I would immediately go catch another one of the same species because it's what fits my build

>>723733805 (OP)
I emulated ZA and had fun with it.

>>723737408
Oh sorry forgot to say: And randomizer just means your actual monster doesn't matter at all
Sorry but Pokeymens are superior in the "try out cool monsters" aspect cause you can replace, say, your fire mon with a normal type mon that looks cooler and just not worry about super effective damage for a bit. Whereas in MonSan if you take out one monster, now your other two are fucked cause your build needed all 3

Some images of gen 10 were leaked (likely by a pissed fan) and it has graphics just as bad as ZA

>>723734562
Okay, but what does “fun” matter?

>>723734167
People don't like being called NPCs but anyone that buys Nintendo products and loves them for churning out shit year after year qualify. Brain level 5 people that can't imagine an apple in dey hed behavior.

>>723737958
>average Sony games enjoyer

>>723737408
You cant get eggs from random encounters in bravery mode. You start with 1 starter and 2 randoms, then every time you enter a new biome you get 1 chest with a random monster egg from that area, and finally you get freebies like koi and bard and shockhopper. The only other way to get new animals is to donate a shift stone, skill potion, and switch stone to the monster army for new random eggs, but they are also limited to like 6 eggs.
IIRC you will always get certain monsters like grypheonix because it has a unique explore ability and the game needs you to pass certain logic checked (grapple monster, swim monster, diamond breaker monster, etc) but you can't really plan your run around getting them.
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Bravery
>29 total monsters with no repeats

And you will be here posting about how much you hate it for years to come. Find some joy in your life and move on

>>723738210
>Find some joy in your life
I did

>>723733805 (OP)
>NOOO POKEMON IS A GREEDY LAZY CASHGRAB NOW ;-;
They were always fucking lazy. Basic ass rock paper scissors mechanics with some monster jpegs slapped on.

No one over the age of 12 should interact with that series. Might as well go watch teletubbies.

>>723738350
Teletubbies is kino thoughever

>>723734167
Carried by the concept and the old designs. Even now, even seeing what a dumpster fire ZA is, I see a bit of footage and some of my favorites and a part of my brain says “hey, I can get —? That could be fun.”

>>723733805 (OP)
>So this is it?
>The slow rotting death of pokemon as the greedy soulless ghouls of gamefreak milk the franchise dry?
Yeah, welcome to 20 years ago.

>>723737383
the cope at the bottom always ruins this image

>>723739328
it's a condescending remark calling out people who prefer the new style as having shit taste

>>723733805 (OP)
This has been happening since Gen VI you fucking moron.

>>723739957
>my first gen was 5

>>723737098
shit like monster sanctuary is neat but it has basically zero staying power
it's one and done

>>723740056
Gen 5 was the last one that tried something new, but then the immediate chimpout from autists that couldn't use their bros made them walk back on everything and try to set B2W2 as the last games in the series.
And then they were forced to keep milking it and every game since XY has been worse than the previous. Save for Legends Arceus I guess as it used its spinoff title to change everything, but now the Legends title has been tarnished by Z-A so there's no more hope for it.

>>723742139
>just confirms his first gen was 5

Its been dead since 3 for me.

>>723740056
My first Gen was 1 in 1998. 5 was the last time it felt like they actually tried.

>>723742691
That's not me. You may be replying to multiple people on an anonymous image board.

>>723740056
Gen V was the last time Gamefreak actually tried to make an interesting game and the reception at the time fucking buckbroke them. Gen VI is the first generation I never beat. Been playing since I got a copy of Blue in 1999 so go fuck yourself. Gen 3 really did feel like a step down but it wasn't total dogshit like when they transitioned to 3D.

>>723742691
Started with gen 2 actually and my favorite game is Platinum.

USUM are good, sorry LARPing zoomers

>>723733958
Yep this is one of the reasons why no one likes faggot pokespammers

>>723743207
>Gen 3
>a step down
lol, lmao

>>723734167
It's just a kids game, nobody gets this mad over Hello Kitty games.

>>723734167
I just like pokemon, not sure why me buying a videogame makes you mad.

Switch teams

>>723743434
I do

>>723742139
>but now the Legends title has been tarnished by Z-A
Legends Arceus is not better than Legends Z-A

>>723733805 (OP)
It's over. The leaks and state of Z-A have made it very apparent how little is put into this slop. But the pokemon fans don't care. As long as they can catch Charizard and have their annual fun it doesn't matter if the games are barely taped together.
It's a tough pill to swallow but there's never going to be a pokemon game that goes all out and is given actual time and budget. And the spin-offs are almost exclusively gacha slop now. Move on or play fangames.

>>723737002
Cute maw, and I'd say palworld has a fair sized sex gremlin roster and the fact that there's no evolution means they stay that way all game

You know what I really hate about the modern games? The insanely long unskippable tutorials and giant stories that are all trying to be epic. Give me some fully fucking optional tutorials and make the story "Team Fuckfaggot is starting shit" and let me catch some fucking pokeymanz for fucks sake.

>>723737002
>palworld
>digimon
>SMT

>>723743678
>ADHD zoomers really think this

If only there was a game that threatened Pokemon so much they're being endlessly sued. Maybe even a new game with a reasonable story and game mechanics

>>723743963
survival crafting slop is not vidya. sorry, but i don't make the rules.

>>723744293
neither are button mashers sorry i don't make the rules

>>723744050
Not happening. The leaks for gen 10 are out there and its some pretentious shit about how we can make the world of tomorrow better for future generations and some dude wanting bulldoze the emviroment cause a pokemon killed his son

>>723733805 (OP)
What you dont realize is that you are old and no longer the target demographic
It is mind boggling to see all these 30+ yo balding men bitching and moaning over a LITERAL CHILDREN'S GAME

>>723744050
For some reason Gamefreak decided that every game has to be about saving duh world even though the first two generations that made the franchise so popular in the first place were just about stopping some thugs.

If you boys hate Pokemon games, then you're not real gamers!

>>723743963
no evolution is nice for the sexgremlins like flopie, but come the fuck on. it's a survival crafter, nobody actually enjoys that genre on any level aside from terminally brainrotted zoomers.
just because pokemon is dead doesn't mean i want to stoop to that level of slop.

>>723744504
The "its a childrens game" argument doesnt work because most nintendo games could be called that yet are always polished and bug free unlike pokemon

>>723733805 (OP)
How is this possibly news to you at this point?

>>723744504
honestly i would've agreed with you but we know by now this isn't true anymore it mainly dominated by grown ass manchildren just like yugioh when have you ever went to a gamestop and seen a line of just kids none

and honestly Japanese kids don't count since they're taught to like pokemon like a cult

>>723744768
i kind of wished the game was a different genre like the forest but honestly yeah.
i somewhat enjoy the fighting gameplay cause dodging actually have a meaning in it but maybe the spin-off would probably be better than the mainline unless it's like hay day then its genuinely over

>>723744050
Its fucking insane to me that devs KEEP FUCKING SHOVING UNSKIPPABLE TUTORIALS IN THERE FUCKING GAMES REEEEEE

Just give me the FUCKING option to skip. God fucking damn it I KNOW HOW TO THROW A FUCKING POKEBALL. And im sure some fucking faggot shill will assure me that its actually a good thing or "isnt a big deal", to which WHY IS IT IN THE FUCKING GAME THEN YOU FUCKING SHILL FAGGOT

>>723743678
It absolutely was simply for having EXPLORATION in a monster collectathon EXPLORATION game
>y-you can t-totally explore this faggot town
Dont care, let me explore the wilderness you stupid fuck

>>723745441
if they made a palworld spinoff in a real genre i would actually play it, i won't lie. unfortunately that'll have to wait until after the farming sim.

>>723745570
Devs have to make sure the kids and manlets still playing Pokemon know how to play it

>>723744832
It doesnt work regardless because a childrens game shouldnt be an automatic pass to be shit. It should be the opposite. You should challenge them so they dont grow up to be fucking retarded

>>723733805 (OP)
Maybe you just don’t like Pokemon anymore?

>>723745792
So then go "durrrr do you want to listen to prof Faggot explain it to you???"
>yes
>no
Its that fucking simple. Coding wise it would take what, 5 seconds? Thats whats fucking infuriating, there are so many stupid little things that they could impliment to make the games so much better that wouldnt cost them anything. But they just refuse. And when you bring it up, shills just go "c-cope they sold a gorillian, as if they HAVE to be fucking dogshit and cant just be a good product AND sell

>>723745965
>it cant be that the company demonstrateably doesnt give a fucking shit any more, its YOU
The only people who say this shit are faggots that didnt play after the initial pokemania and then jumped back in with GO. Fuck you.

>>723746219
Counterpoint: it’s not a big deal and you’re just spurging out

>>723745570
>tutorial in pokemon platinum, 2009
>watch your rival try to run into tall grass like a retard, receive pokemon, talk to professor in lab, go back to mom's house
>tutorial in ZA, 2025
>on-rails exposition dumping for literally 3 hours before they let you actually play the game

>>723744180
Aethermancer isnt being sued tho

>>723746402
>no actually they shouldnt take 5 seconds to code something that makes the game much easier to pick up and much easier to replay
Go slurp cock somewhere else

>>723737098
I fell for the Monster Sanctuary meme and it bored the shit out of me. Dropped.
Aethermancer looks a little interesting though, you better not be overhyping shit again, pokefags do that for every little thing.

>>723746389
Nice scarecrow sis

>>723746558
You arent going to like aethermancer if you didnt like sanctuary

>>723746706
You didnt deny it, bitch. Looks like I hit a nerve. Fuck off from my board, normalfaggot. Go lick corporate boot somewhere else

>>723746402
Whens the last time you admitted that pokemon fucked up?

>>723747053
I’m not the one sperging the fuck out over a tutorial at the beginning of a game

>>723734167
>it's shit it's shit it's shit it's shit it's shit it's shit
But how do you know?
You boycott the games right? That's all well and good, but then why do you speak like you're an expert on what the experience is like?

>>723747269
USUM being the exact same game, only game I didn’t finish

>>723734167
There just really isn't any games like Pokemon
>"Palworld is th-"
It isn't. Just open world survival crafting slop. I wanna go on an adventure and collect cool mons, visit different cool characters, and listen to cool music. I don't care about graphics stuff. Neither does many Pokemon fans.
I hate GF has lost the vision and atmosphere for Pokemon. The adventure aspect is dying from games the more they embrace open world.
I wish I could write more about it and discuss with anons, but whenever I discuss a game and write more than 1000 characters my posts get called leftist memes etc. so I'll stop here.
Oh right
TL;DR
There aren't proper Pokemon alternatives. No other Pokemon like games focus on journey and adventure.

>>723747390
>Just eat the shit sandwich bro
>You won't know until you try hehe
Some people have a combination of imagination, experience and the ability to look at things with their eyes. I'm sorry you are mentally deficient and/or just an AI chatbot programmed to reply like a child but that doesn't mean the rest of us actual humans need to suffer shit.

<OOC>: How is your day going?

>>723748001
it's still an option just not a perfect one, if there will ever be one since perfect is impossible to reach in this era and fun and good can be subjective to certain people with different opinions

>>723748087
>scat fantasy
>schizo meltdown
Profoundly third worlder post

>>723748247
You didn't answer my question bot. I guess I screwed up the format.

(OOC: How is your day going?)

>>723747359
>I have zero standards and it hurts me when you point out a flaw in the multibillion dollar company's game
>in fact, it hurts me so much that I feel compelled to reply and try to defend them
>but i dont have an actual defense for their extremely lazy bullshit
>so I will instead try and smear the complainer as a deranged schizo for wanting an extremely basic quality of life improvement
What happened in your life that compells you to defend an unfeeling company to the death? Why do you not want any form of improvment in a game you supposedly like? Why does it hurt you so much when I ask for 5 seconds to code something extremely fucking basic? And finally, how much nintendo dick have you throated so far?

>>723733805 (OP)
>.png

>>723748221
I'm not saying it's not an option but the focus is completely different. Like comparing OG Doom and Halo. Yeah, both are FPS and sci-fi themed and there are both singleplayer campaign and multiplayer. But telling someone to play Halo if they like og Doom is silly.
Same as liking Jak 3 and saying Uncharted is same because it has a guy platforming, adventuring in ruins, and shooting with guns. "Both are action-adventure games after all".
It's just there aren't much Pokemon-like games so peopletend to think a completely different style of game is replacing Pokemon because "they both have monsters you can catch".
Fucking hell I'm writing a text wall again, I should learn to make posts more /v/ length. Whatever I'll just go to sleep.

>>723744050
Pokemon having world-ending stories have always pissed me off. The stories should be way more tame. Gen 3 was already pushing it, but Gen 4 was when they jumped the shark

>>723749385
yeah i always thought gen 3 jumped the sharpedo with that shit. Legendary pokemon went from "rare pokemon with mysterious powers" to "literal gods that control the weather, the sun rises every day thanks to groudon's mercy" and then gen 4 went full retard in that direction and made gen 3 look normal.

>>723749385
>Pokemon having world-ending stories have always pissed me off.
They stopped that in Gen 7 with Team Skill. Granted, the Aether Foundation is arguable. Gen 8 had Team Yell, and Gen 9 with Team Star.

>>723749882
*Team Skull.

>>723749116
Doom is fantasy, not sci-fi

Anons, you should try the MHS games, 1 and 2 are aviable on literally everything and MHS3 is coming in a few months.

>>723750735
I just checked and neither 1 nor 2 are available for my Game Boy Advance

>>723750894
Hahaha, very funny, anon...

>>723751083
Thanks

>>723749882
The last too aren't even "evil" teams just a team a retards and a team of cliched "bullied ones that bullied back". Hell, Z-A also doesn't have someone truly evil, just an out of control machine!

>>723733805 (OP)
Repeat after me, folks:
You will buy it anyway.

>>723752882
Last game I purchased was one of the remakes back in like 2018 or something.
Why do people even say this shit.

>>723753137
>he bought any of this shit after gen 2
>"OH YEAH WELL BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I GAVE THEM MONEY SO I'M A SMART CONSOOOOMER"

>>723751346
>Z-A also doesn't have someone truly evil
>the team of loan shark jews who debt-slave people for their entire lives isn't evil because... because they just aren't, okay?
???

>>723748858
>the unfeeling company doesn't care about you but it will care about my sperging on /v/

>>723740056
not him but I share this opinion and my first gen was 2 (well I had a gen 1 game (yellow) but I was too young to actually get too far into them).

>>723750735
>1 and 2 are aviable on literally everything
huh, i didn't know 1 got rereleased on PC.
then again i didn't even know 2 had a PC port in the first place either.

>>723733805 (OP)
it took you 12 years of shit to realise that?

I can't imagine the comparions that will happen once Tencent starts advertising Roco Kingdom World.

>>723753271
Is this supposed to be some sort of avante garde bait?
Not having bought a product from a company in nearly a decade is somehow still supporting them??

>>723753835
Pokemon threads are full of retards and schizos that don't really know what they're talking about.

>>723733805 (OP)
You say this every game. And fair enough to most of the last few years but there's nothing doompost worthy about ZA. Even if you don't like it it's still a competently built game with a lot put into it.

Why are people acting like Z-A is some kind of massive failure when it's just more of what the last two games were?

>>723739328
>>723737383
both crabs look good

>>723736570
Ruby and Sapphire were.

>>723753407
>random bullshit deflection
Im well aware that they dont give a shit, they havent for a decade. Im telling YOU that YOU are a bootlicking faggot for acting like griping over their inability to make extremely basic QOL changes is some "schizo delusions" or whatever. Im asking YOU how much nintendo cock that YOU have throated to act like something so utterly basic is some herculean fucking task. Do try to adress the topic instead of running away like a blubbering vagina the second you get any sort of push back

>>723754730
I think palworld really riled up the anti Pokemon sentiment

>>723754730
Because its even worse? And arceus, flawed as it was, was a fresh take. Then they fucked it up. Of course people are sick of it.

>>723758241
>they havent for a decade
And the Unovatranny reveals itself at last.

>>723755374
Those games were alright but the absolute worst part is how long the battles take to start. I swear whoever designed the intros to be that short should be bludgeoned with a blunt object

>>723758574
>short
Long*

>>723733805 (OP)
The games have been objective garbage since gen 6 at least. Why are you whining now?

>>723758502
What? Dude its a fucking number. My favorites are gen 2 and 3. I experienced pokemania first had. Address the fucking reason why it would be so bad to have skippable tutorials instead of making shit up and running like a pussy

>>723737383
The new art style is designed to make plushie manufacturing simpler. Pokemon makes a ton of money from plushies

>>723759030
>What? Dude its a fucking number
The Unovatard's number of choice. No wonder you're so autistic.
>Address the fucking reason why it would be so bad to have skippable tutorials
I'm not that anon.

What do you NEED pokemon to be?
You've got like 2000 Pokemons to catch across dozens of games and countless romhacks of the good Pokemon games. You can catch shinies for infinite grinding hours. You can pokemon GO outside and get mugged by dark types.
What is missing for you?

>>723759742
>doubles down
Yea, run bitch. By the way, I didnt like unova all that much since it had fucking faggot friends stopping you every 5 seconds
>I-Im n-not-
Cool, so youre some whiteknighting faggot that butted into a conversation and still couldnt defend against my point at all. Imagine slobbering on some anon's cock that got BTFO and ran away like a bitch. Thats even worse. Couldnt be me.

>forced hate campaign against za calms down
>suddenly the narrative switches and ZA was good
Guys, I'm confused, what youtuber are we getting our opinions from?

>>723759954
A non-dogshit game? Why do you NEED anything good in your life, faggot?

>>723760062
>suddenly the narrative switches and ZA was good
This didnt happen

>>723759961
>>723760076
Are you underaged?

>>723760157
Step outside of your little hugbox, chuddy.

>>723734167
The quality is irrelevant. Pokémon is a comfort feel good franchise for people who want to shut off their brains and look at their favorite pokémon they bought a plushie of play an animation. Having little complexity is actually desirable.

>>723760194
>cant defend
>cries
>runs like a bitch
Concession accepted

>>723760220
Provide source

>>723760270
I stopped playing Pokemon for a decade and came back when I thought it got better, so I don't think that's true.

>>723760062
The contrarians are aligning with the cultists because the general opinion is that the game sucks, so defending it is the option with the most effective ragebait

>>723758574
They were alright but the comedown was steep compared to gold and silver.

>>723761515
Emerald > Crystal
Only thing it's lacking is the radio and time cycles.

>>723733805 (OP)
>pokefag is still thinking about star wars in 2025 yet somehow didn't notice the games have been shit since gen 5
almost as peculiar as the surge of "legacy" ff fans that appeared out of nowhere to complain about the seven remakes/sixteen when the series hadn't had a single decent release for decades

>>723763475
>Gen 5
You mean 6
>BW ba-
Nope.

>>723763237
Maybe gameplay wise but the actual world in gold and silver was way better.

>>723764437
I think they're pretty comparable.

I've had genuine make-or-break grievances against Game Freak and Pokémon for over a decade now and stopped buying it nearly 10 years ago. The Masuda years were truly better, I'd rather have consistently solid games than what ended up happening after Gen VI. That being said, I think they've been on a better path since Legends Arceus, and PLZA doesn't raise any immediate red flags, at least not in the sense that 2016-2019 did.

>>723763237
And online battling and online trading
Surfing routes are also still a slog. I don't care if the surfing routes in Hoenn are better than the surfing routes of Kanto and Johto, they're still far, far worse than the land routes. The best parts of the surfing routes are the parts where you aren't surfing, and you need Repel active at literally all times to make it bearable.

>>723764765
It has some stupid choices, like no rollerblades, no PokeGrit, etc. Still solid overall.

I'm gonna be heartbroken the next time we get a Sun/Moon.

>>723764904
>And online battling and online trading
Yeah, you were definitely doing that in the 90s, right? You from Kyoto, buddy?

>>723764998
I'm comparing Crystal at its best. There were never any attempts to do something similar with Gen III even though it was definitely possible if they could do it for the GBC and the Mobile Adapter GB could connect to the GBA. I also think localizations of Crystal are, by definition, neutered. The game got its name because of the crystal technology in the Mobile Adapter used for the online communications, and it's why Suicune became the mascot. If you remove the online, you remove the Crystal.

There have been attempts to bring back this functionality in recent years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJrWzd4TLM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwNSy1s-6xA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbbQ5AvFffY

It's actually incredible just how many things that people think was introduced in Diamond and Pearl actually happened first in Crystal, like the GTS and the Pal Pad.

>>723750735
I tried 2.
It could not overcome my hatred of AI teammates.

>>723765409
>No you see Crystal was better because of a cool gimmick feature that only one country experienced at the time and which doesn't matter at all in the present.

This is a really fucking stupid argument. You didn't play that version of Crystal. There's no sense in talking wistfully about a past you never experienced. You may as well say the Dream World wasn't a stupid idea because it worked *at the time*, ignoring that it totally fucked future players.

>>723765747
I actually used Dream World and my issue with it (apart from the overall quality of the experience being like mediocre timed flash games with RNG) was that it wasn't part of the games themselves. It's a separate, compatible thing with a completely different playstyle, like Dream Radar or Ranch. Crystal's online mechanics are part of the game itself, all the menus, minigames, everything, just like the GS Ball event is part of it. I also count e-Reader content and events (including Faraway Island for Emerald) towards Gen III, even though they stopped halfway through Ruby and Sapphire outside Japan.

Crystal without all the cool online stuff is far less impressive and not worth putting on a pedestal like a lot of people do.

>>723766125
It's really cool that they did it, but I don't think there's any sense in acting like it's more than it actually was: a cool novelty that even most *Japanese* players didn't get to experience. If we're giving it credit we have to give the Gen 3 games credit for selling the wireless receiver (recouping NDS dev costs).

>>723733805 (OP)
I think it's wild that demaking every game past gen 5 to GBA or DS graphics and mechanics would unironically be better than the slop they've churned put

>>723733805 (OP)
i would have stopped caring for this dogshit franchise a long time ago if it weren't for gardevoir

>>723733805 (OP)
Gardevoir cute!

Lida and the electric mask girl are cute, but the amount of fanart for the girls of this game pales in comparison to the deluge Bea and Nessa got.

>>723733805 (OP)
shut the fuck up, you still buy and consume the slop so you have giben up your rights to complain

>>723766531
What even is this?

>>723766313
It's precisely because of what Crystal is given the technology that makes it as impressive as it is. The Game Boy was released in 1989, and even then it was outdated even for a handheld. 1998's Game Boy Color is a marked upgrade, but I wouldn't say it's an entire generation better, it's closer to a Game Boy Pro since we're calling incremental upgrades [whatever] Pro nowadays.

Gold and Silver are Game Boy games, but they have specific enhancements for both the Super Game Boy and Game Boy Color, it's really impressive. The opening video doesn't even run on a regular Game Boy, but for them to do things like a real time clock or infrared communication is something that really makes them stand out among other Game Boy games. Not only that, but they function with the Game Boy Printer too, and can connect to the N64 with Stadium 2 and be played on it. It's actually a shame that Crystal is GBC-only, I would have loved it if they could have found a way to make it work on the GB and SGB, but they went so far as to include online trading, battling, and event distributions. Even if Game Boy games in 1999/2000 were ancient compared to the Dreamcast and PS2, Gen II didn't feel outdated in the least even if the hardware was comparable to a 1983 Famicom.

Though Gen III is a huge visual step up, I don't think its usage of technology really wowed anyone, and it didn't even look particularly impressive among its contemporaries. I think that cutting back on some of the really wow factor technology they had before also undermined it. The Wireless Adapter was nice, but not as exciting as the Mobile Adapter GB, and wireless communications became standard with the DS and PSP later that year anyway.

>>723767394
Ok that's great but you're listing a feature maybe 30,000 players ever experienced as a reason Ruby is a disappointment when it's not even something most people knew existed. Come on, man.

>>723733805 (OP)
>Another hallucination thread.

>>723767757
Gen III is what I consider to be the first rushed mainline Pokémon games, they feel underbaked, which is something I didn't feel with Gen I, II, IV, or V. When Gen I only has Mewtwo and Cerulean Cave after the credits, it's not really a problem because 149 other Pokémon are available before the credits. When Ruby and Sapphire do it, it feels like something is missing, and we know it is because there are 184 Pokémon simply not available (186 with Jirachi/Deoxys). The overworld design falling off a cliff in the last third of the game also feels conspicuous. Not many people think about it, but 17 water routes means 17 routes where you don't need new route music because it just uses the surfing theme. In pretty much every other game, you're getting new music at a fairly consistent pace. I just can't help but compare it to Gen II where they tried to include everything they could and pack the game in spite of the hardware, or Gen IV which felt like it didn't make any compromises on content or mechanics.

>>723766960
Pokken, I think.

>>723753668
and no its not gacha as people think

>>723733805 (OP)
Azur promilia will save the genre

>>723737098
>sexy bull
Keep talking...

>>723770254
Thank god. No saviors of video games will do it using gacha systems, that's for damn sure.

>>723766445
Same. There's a couple human girls per gen that are usually watching out for too, though.

>>723744050
The endless tutorial has been a problem since gen 7. You can basically expect the first 2-3 hours of every pokemon game (starting with sun and moon) to be spent mashing A non stop until they let you free. And the thing is the tutorials and constant stopping for dialogue doesnt stop after the intro it only lets up a little bit.
please just let me skip dialogue with the start button and these games become 50% more playable. i refuse to buy new games until they stop this shit

>>723734167
Theres people who for over 50 years now still eat mcdonalds, drink coffee, beer, eat candy and do nothing all day. Humans are not really smart on a case by case level. /v/ is proof of that.

>>723766620
For good reason.

SwSh (Nessa, Bea, Marnie) > SV (Nemona, Iono, Carmine) > Z-A (Hag Maniac, Electric Mask, Detective lady)

That's my ranking at least, though I really do like Nemona more than her peers.

>>723773974
Coffee, beer, and candy don't ever stop being good, anon. Growing older doesn't mean unlocking new tiers of ordinary drinks and snacks. It does make sense to quit McDonalds though, since their price is way higher than, say, Chipotle which is WAY more worth a trip.

>>723733958
God forbid people on the VIDEO GAME board talk about the biggest VIDEO GAME release in the past few days.

>>723733805 (OP)
People doing bad things deserve their legacy to be destroyed alongside them.

Just like Hitler, Israel and Taco Bell.

>>723733958
we don't want you there. /v/ is a containment board.

>>723774416
>talk about the biggest VIDEO GAME
considering you moves do "omg kill every person not buying MY toy brand", no this isn't about games, it's about you and your tribe sending death threats to the enemy tribe.

>>723734167
Everything you say is shit, minus the graphics and price, I think are fine actually.

>>723774193
I dunno how you're eating mcdonalds for it to cost more than chipotle.

>>723769530
This anon gets it.

>>723770254
If not gacha then what the fuck is it? They HAVE to get money somehow.

>>723774416
you have a containment board for a reason. fuck off.

>>723776207
A single chipotle burrito is WAY more food than any singular burger off McD's menu. But the burger costs about the same, if not more.

>>723733805 (OP)
Yes, enjoy.

>>723777251
My man, I can get like 5 mcdoubles for under 10 bucks. Who gives a shit about a double quarter pounder?

>>723777338
Bullshit. This year? Around here that tiny little McDouble is over 3 bucks. You'd get 3 for a little over 10 after taxes. Do you live outside the US? Are they ripping off Americans on burger prices just like they were on medications?

>>723776916
only cosmetics are monetized (special sets that look like certain species, throw animations, ball cosmetics like the ones in pokemon contests)
you can still get clothing for free too, but it won't be as fancy as the paid stuff

>>723736541
wrong.

>>723777693
So.... PSO2 but without the clothes gacha is just a clothes store instead?

>>723734167
Because of one simple reason.
It's Pokemon.
That's it

>>723733958
/thread

The games are good. Simple as.

>>723778042
What's good about it?

>>723778082
About what it?

>>723778101
The pokemon games, especially the ones that came out in the last decade

>>723778214
Name 1.

Oh great another advertising thread using reverse psychology, good one guys game is a massive success thanks to your hourly threads "complaining" *wink wink*

>>723736153
Just play vgc then?
You know you don't have to use smogon rules on showdown right?

>>723744504
children deserve good things too you absolute misanthrope jew.

>>723778307
No they don't.

>>723736393
Fuck you the stadium games are awesome

>>723777927
no gacha though, you just purchase clothing directly with either the free currency or buy the premium clothing with the clothing currency
they are also bundled in together with discounts, so if you really want the premium clothing you can buy the bundles to save money
ultimately seems unnecessary, unless you really like the premium clothes

>>723778328
spiritual ipad babby

>>723778391
Have you seen the fortnite dances they do? They don't deserve shit.

>>723778240
ZA?
SV?
SwSh?
Even Arceus?

>>723778301
everything is a psyop
except this, it's a psyduck

>>723778434
>ZA
the new battle system is good and the mega fights are fun
>SV
open world Pokemon is nice and the ability to search and catch anything you want at the start is good
>SwSh
easier entry to competitive was good and raids were fun
>PLA
more focus on catching was good and alpha shiny hunts are nice

>>723778381
Unless they really deliver a lot of slutty suits, I fail to see this game living for more than 1 year

>>723743443
Nah I'm not gay

>>723778454
Cute snake

>>723750735
Ah yes, kusoge for people who don't want to actually play Monster Hunter.

>>723743443
and then you see the "gameplay"

>>723778583
What will matter most is the not-Pokemon designs. I can see that they have a stupid looking duck, so it's a good sign (chinks REALLY fucking love their duck characters for some reason) but yeah, it depends on how they chink up the game after it releases. I remember Infinity Nikki being hyped up as the ultimate girl gamer gacha game but they fucked it up with greed and performance issues + no content. Funnily enough, that gay Love and Deepspace game took over that fanbase instead.

>>723778745
I do play MH.. only up to Generation ultimate of course.
MHStories is actually a nice spin-off with an interesting battle system.

but...game is fun

>>723779894
No, it's not

>>723733805 (OP)
>So this is it?
>The slow rotting death of pokemon as the greedy soulless ghouls of gamefreak milk the franchise dry?

>>723780041
Yes, it is.

>>723781151
No, it's not

>>723781259
Yes, it is.

>>723781265
No, it's not

>>723781287
This was debunked.

>>723781317
No, it wasn't

Even bots can't stop Pokemon. Total ZA victory.

>>723733805 (OP)
>The slow rotting death of pokemon as the greedy soulless ghouls of gamefreak milk the franchise dry?
Have you been living under a rock? That has been the case for 15 years. It started with gen 3, where they would release Ruby and Sapphire, and a couple years later they would release Emerald, basically a DLC upgrade, but they would still sell the whole game to you again along with the DLC. And since the buyers let that one slip, it has been going from bad to worse since then. Every year, you will see less effort than their previous game, and their fans will accept it.
Gamefreak is chained to that franchise because it's the goose with the golden eggs, so they keep working on these half-assed, annual releases that would make Ubisoft feel jealous. Nintendo doesn't give a fuck since most of revenue comes from the merch, stuffed animals and pokemon cards, the games are in a way their advertisement. So who is there left to blame? The audience? They don't care either. If they did, they would have stopped buying the games about a decade ago.
Pokemon is too big to fall, Nintendo knows it, Gamefreak knows it, and the audience knows it. They will keep dishing out shit products because they know their audience are flies that won't turn down shit. Anyone outside their audience is wasting their time trying to teach a fly that honey is tastier than shit.

>>723781471
This was debunked.

>>723733805 (OP)
No dev studio who shits out a game a year makes good games

>>723773974
What's wrong with coffee?

>>723781471
Tl;dr for this post is he doesn't like to criticise the older games, he's never played any other monster tamer to form real standards, he doesn't know what annual means and he's incredibly butthurt about his own ignorance but isn't aware of it.

>>723734562
You're simply bad. Protect/roar/whirlwind into switch will make you miss 2-3 of your moves and I'll have 4 to fuck you with. Learn timing and positioning.

>>723734167
>>723733805 (OP)
No matter how much you people wjo aren't playing the games cry about MUH TEXTURES, the games are always fun. Even SwSh, the shittiest of the bunch, was still a decent game to play.

There's your answer. Feel free to call me a shill or drone or whatever, it's all you have. I'll continue enjoying ZA amd Time Stranger both. Enjoy the remainder of your trash thread.

>>723737383
And yet all the designs on the left of the image look good, and all of the ones on the right look bad.

>>723781471
> It started with gen 3, where they would release Ruby and Sapphire, and a couple years later they would release Emerald, basically a DLC upgrade, but they would still sell the whole game to you again along with the DLC.
Funny how you claim 3rd versions started in gen 3, but that's exactly what yellow was to red and blue, and crystal was to gold and silver. You fucking donkey.

>>723733805 (OP)
It’s been dying since XY bro.

>>723783215
>he's never played any other monster tamer to form real standards
My brother in Christ, all monster tamer games are targeted to children and manchildren. There are no standards to be held. They are the equivalent of children's meal from McDonalds. Everyone knows your chicken tendies are made with all of the non-edible parts of the chicken blended into a paste, and you will still eat them.

>>723733805 (OP)
how.new.ru

>>723737383
Damn now I wish there was a way for all post Gen 2 mons to be remade in the style of the originals

Maybe they wouldn't all be shit.

>>723784495
So not only do you not have standards you don't know what it means to have standards.

>>723784720
They'd be considerably worse.

>>723734167
Faggots keep buying. Why should they stop?

>>723733805 (OP)
>You claim it's suffering a slow death yet its pure KINO

>>723784897
>the game is kino because I look at porn of the creatures that aren't sexualized at all in the game

>>723784897
MEMES AND PORN

>>723734167
>WHY do people keep buying Pokemon games? WHY?
Because they're good games.
As much as you want to whine about it the gameplay for pokemon is great in a way other tamer series have yet to achieve. Not to mention, in the modern day with most companies known for making rpgs dropping turn based to make easier to build action rpgs there's a huge market for turn based rpgs. Put them together and you get total pokedomination and a bunch of children who hate seeing their shovelware outdone by a pokemon gane

>>723733805 (OP)
literally every new game release someone posts shit like this
kys

>>723733958
Why no GR15 but for Pokemon?

Grifters lost

>>723733805 (OP)
I haven't heard twitter freaks freak out over bugs so I think this is the best game we've gotten in over a decade.
Of course Nintendo will see their best selling game (by 10%) had a different combat and decide to change the whole franchise to be real-time rollslop from now on.

>>723785557
Why the fuck did you censor that

>>723734167
The real reason is that people are attached to the ip and the pokemon designs. These people don’t want and won’t go for a “pokemon but good” game because they want to spend time with the pokemon they’re already attached to. basically people are attached to pikachu and don’t want to let go of him

Nah, the games are still fun, but to most people I would probably suggest not touching any new gen until the 2nd dlc comes out since Gamefreak has twice in a row now held back the post game for said 2nd dlc
For instance, it's so blatantly obvious that they're holding back multiplayer mega raids and 1v1 multiplayer battles for the ZA dlc

>>723785798
There are no "pokemon but good" games.
Palworld is a shitty Ark clone and Digimon is an SMT like monster collector, not a Pokémon like monster collector.

>>723785798
>These people don’t want and won’t go for a “pokemon but good” game because they want to spend time with the pokemon they’re already attached to.
The real reason for that is that "pokemon but good" is just pokemon. As a game it perfected the formula for monster tamers where it isn't too grind to obtain new monsters but obtaining new monsters is almost always achieved through exploration, then there's the obvious addition of multiplayer. Not to mention it doesn't really use any kind of underhanded methods to sell a game like pretending there's 450 monsters but a solid chunk of those are just recolors with the same animations and what not, then there's the matter of DLC in the modern day where you're obviously getting more bang for your buck where you get expansions that give you new areas and double the monster count while adding more content for like 30 bucks whereas say Time Stranger dlc is like half the price of that but only nets you 15 new mon without any new areas.

Needless to say that the reason why people stick with pokemon, because there's no adequate alternative. You have to severely drop your standards and that's saying something when you're coming from modern pokemon.

>>723786830
>where it isn't too grind to obtain new monsters but obtaining new monsters
I should have said evolutions but whatever.

Watching /v/tards get mad over a kids game is hilarious

Watching secondary faggots get mad over /v/tards getting mad over a kids game is hilarious

Watching tertiary faggots get mad over secondary faggots getting mad over /v/tards getting mad over a kids game is hilarious

>>723787051
gottem

>>723744050
Genuine question here.
Do you fags want story in your Pokemanz?
Which Pokemon has the best story?
What would be the ideal basic premise? Your training bitch slapping some mafia boss trying to use Pokemon for profit? Your trainer fighting against God Himself who has been angered by some creepy satanist cult?

>>723787423
>Which Pokemon has the best story?
B/W 1 and 2

>>723745570
this. Holy fucking shit, the prologue of Sword/Shield made me want to fucking claw my face off

>>723748001
>The adventure aspect is dying from games the more they embrace open world.
It's funny how little sense this sentence makes and yet it's so correct. I hate that open world games have robbed videogames of that sense of adventure. There's no more dungeons or cool linear segments anymore, it's all just giant forests dotted by copy-pasted bandit camps

>>723787423
>Do you fags want story in your Pokemanz?
Some. If it's enticing. I actually like most of ZA's plot, until some of the stupid character assassination it does for lysandre near the end.
>best story
Black / White

The best Pokémon story is an A plot B plot, with the A plot being a simple "beat these trainers and beat this gauntlet to be champion" and with the B plot being about some evil organization, going on for a bit after the A plot.
What defines how good the story is though are the villains. S/V has maybe the worst story in the series because it doesn't even have a villain

>>723743442
Because the games are shit and mindless idiots that buy whatever SLOP they put out is the reason why. If you had any discipline and standards you would refuse to give them your money and demand that they make a quality game.

>>723733805 (OP)
Have you tried growing up? Who the fuck plays Pokemon past the age of 8?

Seriously, its fucking embarassing seeing these posts made by adult people pretending baby's first turbo casual JRPG, featuring some of the worst monster design ever is somehow a le tragedy because these shit games now also have shit graphics.
How about you play Elden Ring, or Doom Eternal, or RDR2, or ArmA? You know, games that arent made explicitely for toddlers?

>>723749675
Agreed on how bloated legendary Pokemons are now. We used to have just Mewtwo, Mew, and those three elemental birds. But now every new entry has to have some fuckshit cunt that is either some sort of god-like deity or some sort of legendary hero that defeated some god-like deity

>>723787901
Except a quality Pokemon game is impossible.
Give it the best graphics you can, give it as much content as you can imagine, give it the biggest, most detailed open world ever, its still going to be a stupid, mindlessly easy game for kids, because Pokemon sucks at a conceptual level.

>>723787902
You guys have to been using some kind of AI or are from a discord because I see this exact same diatribe in every single thread.

>You know, games that arent made explicitely for toddlers?
>RDR2
Really anon. There's literally zero mechanical depth in RDR2 so much so that you could probably have a more engaging time with that imagine babies game on Wii. It's not a game made for adults, it's a game made to impress children.

>>723787913
What? The SV legendaries were just two Cyclizars from different eras, the SV ones were just part of local lore, and Legends games didnt introduce any new ones.
The only time the games went on about god like beings is D/P/Plt.

>>723787984
In other words a quality pokemon game is possible but you just have an irrational hatred of pokemon.

>>723787902
>Elden Ring
>Doom Eternal
>RDR2
First off you just listed a bunch of Reddit games, secondly all videogames are essentially toys, so if you’re going act like a tough ass because you need a big M on the box to find your toys enjoyable then why don’t you actually go all the way and stop playing with toys altogether?

>>723787902
>Who the fuck plays Pokemon past the age of 8?
That's 90% of Pokemons fanbase. Shit, that's Nintendo's demographic.
Children aren't interested in consoles or videogames that aren't in their phones and tablets.

>>723788058
RDR2 has more effort put into a single mission than Pokemon has throughout the entire franchise.
And its not just Pokemon, this affects ALL monster catchers like Digimon, Palworld, SMT or MH Stories.
They are all mindlessly easy games with awful graphics and the production values of a Skyrim mod.

>>723788118
>reddit games
As opposed to /v/ games like Danganronpa, Life is Strange, The Coffin of Andy and Leley, Deltarune or The Sims? What you fags play here can barely be considered videogames.

>>723788108
I dont like Pokemon for the same reason I dont like Hello Kitty, Cailloue or My Little Pony.

>>723788156
>RDR2 has more effort put into a single mission than Pokemon has throughout the entire franchise.
No, it really doesn't. Like almost all rockstar games all the missions are point A to point B, kill some guys on the way.
There's zero effort in that.

>>723788302
That would imply you have a strong desire to consume MLP anon.

>>723787553
Sword and shield has barely any tutorial they even give you Pokeballs immediately when you get your starter and just skip the catching tutorial if you do it before they teach you

>>723788321
Ah so you fuckwits are a bunch of discord retards.
That reply has been reposted over and over.

>>723788386
You have to understand, these people legitimately have ADHD a few minutes feels like hours to them.

>>723733805 (OP)
Remember anon, the things you like and what you want don't matter. Profits are the most important thing in the "real world". Your interests are an obstacle to beignored or swept aside It's only depressing if you have a soul and aren't a psychopath.

The silver lining, if any, is that Pokemon is a sterling example of a cautionary tale, akin to or even more severe than Xerox. The mad grab for maximum profits at the expense of all else isn't the correct way to run a business, and there are people in the corporate sphere who believe that. The current late-stage capitalism we're stuck in is unsustainable, and something will happen sooner or later. We just have to hope that the trainwreck is clean and has as few casualties as possible.

>>723788363
How exactly?

>>723748001
>The adventure aspect is dying from games the more they embrace open world.
I disagree for that being the reason, Gamefreak just handled S/V horribly. The dlcs manage to get the feeling almost right.
All that needs to happen to make the open world work is
1. Soft level scaling. Have areas have a range of levels for pokemon that shift with your own level, such as an early area being level 3-10, and it scales with the average level of the three highest level pokemon you have.
2. Break progression of gyms and titan pokemon up into areas with said soft level scaling. Basically you can do gyms 1/2/3 and titan pokemon 1/2/3 in any order, but you must beat them all to progress to challenge the next 3.
3. Completely linear villain organization (and a REAL villain org, not this gen 8 gen 9 bullshit) B plot with a new quest activated every couple of gyms / titan pokemon (rival battles would also take place during this B plot)
4. Quick balls are post game, and any pokemon in a zone beyond your current story zone will have a catch rate of 1.

Do that and it would work amazingly. But if Gamefreak goes through with what the leak said about being able to go right to the final boss like in zelda or something to that effect, then it absolutely won't work

>>723788321
I dont see how that makes Pokemon have more effort put into it when literally every single Pokemon game is the exact same.

>>723788421
Right.
It's not as if that's not a fact or anything, after all you can't exactly argue that it's not the case.

>>723788454
Anon, you're in a pokemon thread crying about how you want to play a good pokemon game.
If you feel the same way about mlp then that means you want to consume MLP products.

>>723788560
No I'm not, I literally said a good Pokemon game is impossible because the mere idea of this franchise sucks, what part of that made you think I want to play them?

>>723788524
Yea just ignore the other mission types.
And god forbid there's some fucking shooting in a fucing cowboy game.
Go back to you grooming channel you inbred retard.

>>723788497
>when literally every single Pokemon game is the exact same.
They aren't for obvious reasons relating to the monsters, region and even story despite sharing story beats like the legendary.
Meanwhile GTA and RDR are just the same game but one is contemporary and the other is western.

>>723788620
In other words, it's exactly the same.
If you actually believed what you said you would have actually mentioned something about the quests and described how they were different, instead you're both angry and afraid.

>>723733805 (OP)
>Pokemon game design and sales stagnate through the entire 2000's and early 2010's even on the mega successful Nintendo DS
>...
>Pokemon has a resurgence in the late 2010s through 2020s with higher game sales and more experimental titles
>OH NO! It's dying...

>>723788631
>Meanwhile GTA and RDR are just the same game but one is contemporary and the other is western
There's more differences between GTA V and RDR2 than between Pokemon Red and Blue and Scarlet and Violet.

>>723787913
The last game with a bloated legendary cast in the base game was gen 7 that had 9 not counting the ultra beasts or pre evos of lunala / solgeo
S/V had 2 legendaries to start, Sw/Sh had 3.

>>723788756
Then prove it.

>>723788801
Play them, you might be surprised what non-Pokemon games look like.

>>723788856
So you can't do a basic comparison to prove your point.
Meaning you default to being wrong.

>>723787902
I love how you sneaked in Arma there to balance out your absolute normalfag taste

>>723788856
>pokefag telling other people to play non pokemon games
Hilarious.

>>723788856
>Play them, you might be surprised what non-Pokemon games look like.

The fact you're using words "look like" instead of "plays like" betrays the fact you're not actually talking about gameplay differences between GTA and RDR, just visual differences.

>>723788934
Normalfags have better taste than the average person in this website, you fags only play games with no gameplay at all.

>>723789000
>you fags only play games with no gameplay at all.
Pretty sure we don't like RDR2.

>>723788948
>pokefag telling other people to play non pokemon games

He's arguing (badly) against Pokemon, he's on your side dumbass.

>>723788963
The gameplay is a given considering Pokemon's gameplay is absolutely mindless, probably because the target audience of Pokemon are 5 year olds.

>>723788948
Is this some sort of American way of arguing, of "if you dont like this you actually like it" type of shit?

>>723784107
Nah, he is right, there are so many free click moves it's surreal. After the phys/special split the game actually got inadvertently dumbed down.

>>723789040
>He's arguing (badly) against Pokemon
Yeah and that's what makes him a pokefag. He's literally only ever played pokemon so all he has to compare pokemon to is pokemon. That's why he's just saying he most generic statements ever.

>>723789029
No shit, you hate anything that requires reflexes.
No wonder this place slurps up Deltarune, no gameplay, all dialogue, and all the fanbase does is discuss the 4 billion genders of its characters

>>723789053
Not him but I can’t even parse what this post is actually trying to say what’s a “free click move”

>>723789109
This comes from the website with an unironic Pokemon board and that only plays games for toddlers.

>>723788704
You fish, you race, steal and trail.
Do you complain about fighting games also having nothing but punching and kicking round after round?
>a mostly shooty bang bang game has mostly shooty bang bang!
Do you seriously think that's an intelligent complaint?
You seem like the type of retard that needs to be reminded to breath every once in a while.

>>723789393
Talk about boy statements, what does that have to do with what I said?

I'm having fun in Legends ZA. That is all.

>>723789553
That you are accusing someone actively mocking Pokemon of being a Pokemon fan, utter non-sense coming from a place who isnt mocking Pokemon, you are mad the games suck because you actually, unironically want to play Pokemon.

>>723789287
Moves are supposed to be balanced by "close range, short charge" and "long range, long charge" but there are moves that blur the lines like fly, dig and heat crash that teleport you on top of the enemy while not leaving you very vulnerable. Then you can follow up with another fast attack and very little can survive this if you don't resist it. "So just switch out", except it's not always safe because it's a 4 way battle

>>723789469
>You fish, you race, steal and trail
So there's fishing
Going from a to b
Killing
And going from point a to b

Riveting.

>Do you complain about fighting games also having nothing but punching and kicking round after round?
Different genre, different expectations. Fighting games aren't exploration based games that require variety, the objective there is to learn your character(s) and have short matches with other players.

>Do you seriously think that's an intelligent complaint?
Of course not but my argument and your strawman are two different things aren't they? It's almost as if you can't tackle the actual argument because it's an absolute inarguable truth about RDR2's gameplay.

>>723789819
You actually talk about exploration? A guy has made an entire Youtube career uncovering all the secrets around RDR2's map.
Meanwhile Pokemon "exploration" amounts to "have two HM slaves so you can get a rare candy".

>>723789675
What's this garbled jargon you just posted?
Whether you like it or not there's no reason to obsess over something to this degree unless you have some kind of strong emotional attachment to it. You don't see me going around complaining about games like tlou or cod day in and day out because the faceless company made a game, do you? And that's because I don't care, I've never been interested in those games.
Meanwhile you're here because you have a legitimate vested interest in it despite your apparent "hatred". I bet you have a wall lined with pokemon plushes.

>>723789952
NTA but are you really trying to claim that one guy making a "career" off of RDR2 is somehow comparable to all the various poketubers?

>>723790090
>doing randomizer challenges = exploration

>>723789952
It's always youtube with you lot isn't it. You really can't make opinions for yourself.
Either way I can guarantee there are more people with successful YouTube channels about hidden secrets and how tos relating to pokemon.

>>723734167
Genx and boomer conservatives made life hellish for millenials and zoomers so they retreated to entertainment. Then entertainment was turned into shit, by liberals, but these two generations still cling on their childish charm, behavior, lack of responsibility etc. which this franchise represents.
People don't want good entertainment, they want a consistent one. These games take them out from their 1 room apartments, shitty 1 hour commotions, dead end jobs to relive their childish innocence once more. Nintendo knows very well their target audience is the manchildren, who blow a ridiculous amount of money of their income to these, not the children whithout disposable income. They are aware they'll get away with an absurdly underpowered console like the switch and a game made by chinks asset flipping with an extremely low budget, because the target audience's mind works exactly like a child's its just now he has disposable income.

>>723790139
And all of the fact and walkthrough channels?
Who is this RDR YouTuber anyway?

>>723790029
Funny you say that, because its /v/ the one having that emotional response to the latest Pokemon games being PS2 gier garbage, which is because you fags want to play this crap.
And that is really funny because /v/ has always pretended to have some kind of superior taste in games, and yet the things you play and the ones you wish are all fucking garbage.
You play non-games like Deltarune and dream of "good" Pokemon games, as of that was possible.
Normalfags who only play COD and FIFA have better taste than this place.

>>723790090
What do all the poketubers make videos about, glitch compilations?

>>723790162
There's no hidden secrets in Pokemon, they have the emptiest, least detailed open worlds ever.
Ubisoft games have more secrets, detal and care put into their maps than Pokemon, which is embarrassing to think about.

>>723790279
>because its /v/ the one having that emotional response to the latest Pokemon games being PS2 gier garbage, which is because you fags want to play this crap.
Ding ding ding.
Thank you for agreeing. They're shitposting about it because they want it.

>>723790238
Strange Man
That guy has actually solved some of the mysteries in it, he even found the Braithwaite gold.

>>723790342
Which just exposes your garbage taste in games.
Pokemon games have zero redeeming features, except if you are 5 years old.

>>723790408
And yet here you are, desperate to play it.

>>723790408
Anon, he's saying YOU want to play it, that's what you're agreeing to.
You don't get mad about something if you don't have the desire to consume it.

You have sour grapes.

I always imagine gamefreak haters as the type of weirdos who play factorio

>>723790496
>consume
Whats with Amerimutts speaking like corporate suits?

>slow rotting
pokemon has been bad since gen 6, also the leaks show that the games get no fucking funding, this series is never going to go anywhere because you faggots are incapable of not buying it.

>>723790351
So some guy who capitalised on the hype a few years ago and continues to repost what he posted years ago to an audience that died.

>>723790437
So that's all you got, the "if you dont like something you actually like it" retardation.
Then again, we can't expect people interested in Pokemon to have an IQ above 70.

>>723790519
They're actually the ones who play pokemon. Hard to believe but only they can hate the game genuinely

>>723790560
I'm not American, consume is just the correct word.

>>723790602
That doesnt change the fact that a guy has managed to kick off a channel based entirely on RDR2's open world.
Where are the "Poketubers" doing stuff like this?
Because I just looked up and its all "WHERE TO FIND THIS POKEMOM" and "PLAYING THIS OLD GAME WITH THIS SET OF RULES"

>>723790616
>So that's all you got, the "if you dont like something you actually like it" retardation.
How many times do you have to be told that if you don't like something you don't go out of your way to cross paths with it. You ignore it, you let it be because it doesn't concern you.

>we can't expect people interested in Pokemon to have an IQ above 70.
Agreed, you definitely aren't the sharpest bulb in the shed are you.

>>723785091
Mods are trannies and redditors and pokemon is sacred to them

>>723790496
What sour grapes, these games can be emulated anywhere, and I wouldnt play Pokemon even if they paid me to.

>>723790746
>That doesnt change the fact that a guy has managed to kick off a channel based entirely on RDR2's open world.
Well, it kind of does if his source dried up.

>>723790759
And what I'm saying is that my point isnt about Pokemon being trash at a conceptual level, which it is, its about mocking /v/, a place that loves to pretend to have some kind of deep taste, being this distraught at Pokemon being ugly, buggy trash.
No one with taste in games has any interest in Pokemon, you stupid casuals.

>>723790808
Then why are you here? That's the burning question here because it doesn't make sense for someone who isn't interested in pokemon to have an interest in pokemon like you do.

>>723790825
Its been half a decade of making vids, it was bound to happen.
Still, doesnt change my point, wheres the poketubers making such a thing?
Nowhere, because exploration in Pokemon sucks.

>>723733805 (OP)
Don't worry. When They will start doing AI pokeslops. That will be time to be alive.
Though looking at ZA.
I think they already using AI, at least for story and dialogues. I know Pokemon always was bad with dialogues but ZA went in another level.

>>723790279
Anon you go to a gay bar to have a drink and get mad when gays are having buttsex there.
Why do you badly want to have a drink there? It was your go to pub like 15+ years ago? Who gives a fuck, move on. You are getting mad about a decline which started like 20 years ago dude. That is a VERY long time. Remember hearing bing bong wahoo on the streets by a fatass' DS who has a stained 1UP mushroom shirt? Did you go there and beat him up too?
You are like breadtubers who complain about nintendo with sad mario face as thumbnail or shopping Shiggy red eyes with text NINTENDO IS WORSE THAN YOU THINK. Everyone is already aware of this fact. You are trying to argue with intellectually dishonest people who are very aware of the decline, its just that they don't care, and pretend they are unaware to make you mad. This will forever make every discourse with them impossible.

The only person they'll make mad when they buy this shit and a switch 2 is their family, and make their dad regret he never gave them the belt buckle treatment.

>>723790905
See
>>723790882

Its about mocking /v/'s garbage taste in games.
You fags have the single worst taste in games on the internet, despite acting ellitist.
You only eat up the easiest, most casual and lacking in gameplay slop on the industry.
From trash line Pokemon and Marvel Rivals to literal non-games like Deltarune, Danganeonpa or Life is Strange.
You share taste in games with 13 year old girls.

I come to every Pokemon thread to point out Pokerogue is a free browser game that’s a better Pokemon game than anything GameFreak have put out in the last decade and you should play it.

>>723734167
I guess what is the alternative? Palworld is just a shitty ripoff and if you’re willing to stomach that you’re the person who is willing to stomach Pokemon too.

>>723791106
Why, I'm not 5 years old.

>>723791130
The alternative is doing what you should have done when you turned 10: grow up and move on from "monster catchers".

>>723791172
What if Im an emotionally stunted 30 year old woman

>>723791221
Commit suicide, you and everyone around you will be thankful

>>723791137
Because it’s fun?

>>723791306
No its not, its Pokemon.

>>723791068
>Its about mocking /v/'s garbage taste in games.
The problem with that though is that it ultimately ends with you being mocked, I mean, look at your little RDR2 tirade earlier. You couldn't even defend the game no matter how hard you tried to the point where you brought up a dried up YouTuber to try and prove it was a good game. Even now you're just naming a random assortment of games that have nothing in common with each other in a temper tantrum would put a toddler to shame.

>>723791221
The you play RDR2 like all of the other emotionally stunted women.

>>723791441
No, that was to prove what happens when an open world does have reasons to explore it, unlike Pokemon.

And no, I'm naming the games /v/ does slurp up to prove, along with /v/'s love for Pokemon, just how awful your taste in games is.
Even normalfags who only play COD, FIFA and GTA Online have a more respectable taste than the childish, feminine slop you slurp up.

>>723791606
>that was to prove what happens when an open world does have reasons to explore it
You get one person capitalising on the hype and then falling into obscurity.
That doesn't exactly prove your point when there isn't enough content to actually sustain that, almost everything he's posting about RDR2 was posted on his channel within the first few months.

>I'm naming the games /v/ does slurp up to prove
Marvel Rivals?
Life is Strange?
Those are games we actively mock or only pay attention to for the porn.
>Even normalfags who only play COD, FIFA and GTA Online have a more respectable taste than the childish, feminine slop you slurp up.
Fun fact, the majority of that audience is made up of aging females. Especially when it comes to Fifa.

>>723791606
>Even normalfags who only play COD, FIFA and GTA Online have a more respectable taste than the childish, feminine slop you slurp up.
See this is why we make fun of you anon. You're a casual to your core and you can't hide it.

I don’t know how people can call it a slow death when Sword and Shield were the nuke that eradicated any sort of quality or expectations from Gamefreak.

>>723749385
SV had any “Save the world” threath at all?
It was basically a huge “BULLISM LE BAD…TOXIC RELATIONSHIP LE BAD” spammed for a whole game and DLC in a very on the nose and childish way, than flavoured with a toby fox twist and a shitty “everyone turns into chickens” event.
The story was the tamest pokemon even was

>>723792605
The story was about a neglectful parent who basically went insane trying to bring about their perfect world by bringing pokemon from the past/future to the present where they would cause havoc and destruction across the region.
Said parent was also murdered by a pokemon going on a rampage and then replaced by an AI version designed to keep the time machine running.

I knew mega eelektross looked familiar

>>723773490
Masturbating to the designs is free though.

>>723733805 (OP)
I need you to understand that most old beloved franchises are shells of their former selves. The sooner you accept this and move on, the less disappointed you'll be. It's better to expect nothing but dogshit and be pleasantly surprised if and when something actually good comes out. Just play some good old games until then; there's multiple decades of good games to play from before it all went to shit. Free too, if you aren't retarded.

>>723788706
The only spinoff I can name from 3DS onwards that isn't a mobile game is Pokken
Did it really do better than Ranger and Mystery Dungeon in it's heyday?

>>723733805 (OP)
>Pokémon is slowly dying
You're 12 years late.

What did gameFREAK mean by this?

>>723787902
says the guy posting a gta reaction pic and naming a bunch of normalfag games that even a blind fag with a dance mat can beat.

Pokemon Legends Z-A will win game of the year and all you can do is cry about it :3

>>723788151
>Children aren't interested in consoles or videogames that aren't in their phones and tablets.
Is that why the TCG mobile app with it's micro transactions is their highest grossing game of all time, followed by GO and Unite which was banned in Belgium and the Netherlands for its predatory microtransactions targeted at children

>>723794757
Nintendo needs to sue Lego right the fuck now

>>723792605
There was the plotline of that the paradox pokemon were going to destroy the present ecosystem if they got out of area zero in full but that got dropped like a third.of the way into the game in favor of human focused soap opera shit

>>723799785
came to post this
xy was the beginning of the end

>>723733805 (OP)
Pokemon died in Gen 5 with that ice cream shit. Fuck off retard

>>723769530
I think RS is the first really cynical one, but I don't think the deliberate decision to not include every monster nor the oversight of "oh yeah, surf music means people don't hear route music" indicate rushed production. If anything GSC was way more rushed and crunched.

>>723773848
Gen 4 has a ton of forced tutorials and handholding, as did Gen 5. Gen 6 is the worst about wrenching control from the player aside from Gen 7.

The idea 7 started this is nonsense.

>>723749385
Gen 3 stopped just short of the line and Gen 5 reigned it back in again.

>>723804274
ice cream was based desu.

>>723749675
>Legendary pokemon went from "rare pokemon with mysterious powers" to "literal gods that control the weather
Anon, legendaries were controlling the weather and ressurecting before gen 3

>>723734167
Pokefags are unironically the easiest people to please in the world, less standards than star wars fags and that's saying something
They will get the game, play it once, forget about it and move onto the next the following year

>>723802624
Bitch, stopping that from happening is the CLIMAX of the story

>>723769530
>where they tried to include everything they could and pack the game in spite of the hardware,
They certainly didn't try very hard given it was one of the more content light games

>>723805730
That's literally every game anon. Well, ironically not pokemon due to the replayability

>>723802127
Pokeslop isn't even close to winning goty when E33 or even shillsong exists

>>723806493
Don't reply to yourself anon.

poketard refuze grow up pokemon iz never goijng to appeal to you, you already outgrow the series plus this a Japanese franchise it is already a national thing in japan

That's the fate of being biggest multimedia franchise, it's just merchandise slop at this point

>>723744180
White and black Gatomon sandwich pussyjob