Thread 723769484

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>>723769484 (OP)
is there something new or did you just want to shill it?
pretty cool overall, but the novelty of a format does not last long, at which point it just becomes an adventure game
also very detached characters make it hard to get invested in the narrative, unless you're a fan of dissecting OOH BUT WHAT COULD IT ALL MEAN mysteries yourself

>>723770307
An update dropped recently and I hardly see threads on the game, if ever
>very detached characters
I recommend you play the update

>>723770438
how do updates even work there? new optional dialogue, new directions to take? some kind of OH BTW LOOK AT THIS BIGASS BLOB I REMEMBERED ABOUT AIN'T THAT SOME SHIT HUH?

>>723769484 (OP)
new merch has a fucking dog leash

>>723769484 (OP)
I don't have much to say other than that I think that ep4add1 was better than ep4

>>723772709
latecomer so im not sure exactly where the episodes start and end, but im inclined to agree
the alien computing stuff is definitely the strong suit of corru
homosuck has provided enough bisexual alien dramatics to last the internet a lifetime
shoutout to temu nepeta

>>723774823
everything that's mainline embassy related except for a singular chapter are episodes
things like god, uncosm, bstrd, ozo and other small things you find on the side are usually episodes

>>723775912
*are usually additional

>>723776532
how is it not a game

I got to the city and its just a bunch of nonsense fantasy babble, not interested. Also dont want to play as a woman.

>>723770707
>store page has to repeatedly INSIST it's for your dog
lol, lmao

>>723770307
>very detached characters
>hard to get invested in the narrative
False and unfactual actually. I have become hopelessly emotionally dependent on these weird little freaks and the fact that they are all likely doomed by the narrative brings physical pain to me.

>>723770307
>very detached characters
I wish, the character focus on the embassy almost ruined the game

>>723777404
it's a joke about the "dog" you see in golem maintenance

>>723776787
>just got to the city
you've played the game for less than a minute?

>>723774823
episodes start and end with the advance log button
>EP0 - city, the void, their vessel, dull vessel.
>EP1 - discovery and suspicion
>EP2 - collapse, call research
>EP3 - collapse, golem maintenance
>EP4 - collapse, groundsmindry
then the adds are a bit more convoluted since some adds are accessible way before their episodes
but IIRC...
>EP1ADD1 - "god"
>EP2ADD1 - evil mode 1
>EP2ADD2 - beneath, memhole, and clemens
>EP3ADD1 - ozo, and almost all the content behind the first two masks (unity and hunger)
>EP3ADD2 - evil mode 2
>EP4ADD1 - all the content behind the second two masks (joy and freedom)
then we have two more adds for EP4 confirmed, one of which will be evil mode 3.

>>723778879
yeah and it hasnt drawn me in with all its nonsense technobabble dialogue

>>723779960
yeah EP0 is the weakest part, dev even wants to remake it.
just keep going. things make more sense the more context you have.
also,
>Also dont want to play as a woman.
you're technically not playing as a woman, you're viewing the memories of one.

>>723779960
the world is continous and internally logically consistent
do you drop every game that doesn't handfeed you lore with exposition dumps?

>>723780071
no i drop every game thats boring and makes no sense in the first thirty minutes, i dont want to play a woman getting coffee with some le randum eye man

>>723780279
its an exploration game and you're playing the intro.

>>723778542
>gay cavik
Wasn't Cavik so hot for Akizet he killed Miltza on her orders? Like he realized they were probably still alive and trying to communicate but Aki says "jump" he says "okay how many friends do you want me to take out on the way down"

>doomed by the narrative
They were already long dead on their home planet before they ever reached Earth so there's no guarantee their double-death in the embassy collapse really took. It's just a question of how much of their identity is left in CGA monitor bouncy balls

>>723780362
ok, its boring and full of technobabble nonsense and then suddenly turns you into some random woman that I do not care about or want to play as with no indication of it happening or why.

I liked the initial concept, but then I got to the tumblr tier story of playing as an ayy and her gay little friends getting rekt by super cool RPG mechanics and I just lost interest.

Felt very "homestuck", probably does very well with that crowd.

>>723780479
nigger it is a starving alien biocomputer meant to store memories.
this should've been obvious already, and the "LE RANDUMB?!?!" designs should also make sense given this info.
maybe you really are too retarded for this game...

>>723780597
it's named observer and there's another game named observer about going into memories and you dont turn into a opressed minority analogue alien woman in that game, you stay the same person. also le randum designs dont make sense unless the aliens are giant eyeballs irl which is retarded

>>723780651
ok so yeah you're just too retarded for it.
honestly you better stop playing now, the game might kill you with how small your brain is.

Obesk women (and golems) owe me sex.

>>723780771
from what i'm reading the game is just a homestuck ripoff anyways so I'm not missing much, enjoy your gay technobabble game where you play a opressed latinx alien woman i guess.

>>723780832
not my fault you cant connect two dots.

>>723780832
That chick is right that you're probably too dumb for it (only chicks like this crap), but yeah, that's the general gist of it. Weird alien morphology is cool, but when you literally just use it to tell a wacky story about a group of dull friends it loses all value.

The whole "oh yeah humies can't understand us lol!" shit from the intro is cool, but then when you actively show your weird aliens as just being... people but wacky, it loses the intrigue. Just go read Ender's game or something.

>>723780534
Hopefully the dev course corrects

>>723780468
You look at him and try telling me he doesn't have some sugar in his tank.
also obesk society already has precedent for having to put down your own friends after they succumb to whatever flavor of Evil Ass Rape Parasite is in season at the time. he'd probably do it for anyone asking him to do so.

>>723781008
oh alright, i was interested right up until the part where you enter the city, the whole investigating a alien sentient computer was cool, shame to see they ruined it by making it homestuck with no real meaning.

>>723781079
Nah, it's the other way around. The gay alien story is the story they wanted to tell, the cool backdrop is just that, a cool backdrop. It's the age old adage of "the idea of the mystery is cooler than the actual solution", because whatever explanation you think is coming is probably more interesting than what the author actually came up with.

>>723781128
>no real meaning
the game constantly asks you morally ambiguous questions about the nature of sentience and whether unintentional, emergent but intelligent life should be treated like everyone else
all the themes eventually converge into this. the social parasites, incoherent thoughtforms, mind transfer and nature of corru itself.
>>723781426
do you have a single fact to back that up.

>>723781128
there's more "exploring the alien biocomputer and how it got fucked up after 30 years of starvation" than there is "look at the alien's memories"
the envoy being "a guy with an eye for a head" is a symptom of the starvation thing, right click and scan him, then hover over the underlined words.

>>723781508
ok but it does it through making you play around as a minority woman and listen to a bunch of tumblr AI aliens babble about gay shit so it's not a good story.

>>723781582
No dude you don't get it, she had a large emotional response to some 2D sprite ayy vomiting out its tragic backstory 5 minutes before it sacrificed itself to save the rest of the ayys! Including the super special self-insert girl ayy.

The town stuff wasn't that bad, the game actually turns to shit with the collapse. I pushed through that and got to the part where you have to walk around meaningless empty fragmented memories and talk to psychopathic fragments of imagination and gave up on it.

>>723769484 (OP)
>>723778542
oooOOOOoooooOOO le void!!!!!!
trooncoded shit

>>723781912
the dev has been working on the setting since before homestuck was a thing.
i really doubt that he's letting any trannies influence the game.

>>723780053
>EP0 is the weakest part
The initial mystery was the best part. The collapse spent a long time introducing characters and mechanics that didn't pay off. I get it, characters absorbed by the hivemind are still alive, don't beat about the bush for hours like this is a big twist and then never expand on it. I also wasn't sold on the character interactions in the face of death and I'm usually really into that

But Ozo's been pretty good. Though I liked it more when I thought it was a morally ambiguous choice like killing god. There's so much Jokzi content joining up is basically mandatory at this point, right? I wanted to see Funfriend lose his shit over my questionable life choices and pay for jamming random BS into my brain

>>723782015
if it quacks like a duck

>>723782074
according to corruworks we arent at the halfway point, ozo's a much bigger fish so its going to have a much bigger payoff. funfriend actually does start to get a little upset at you growing ozo so much. have you been to the labs yet?

I have a theory.

It's called Panspermia. The Meteorite and, by extension, corru is some kind of interstellar organism that spreads by "infesting" new habitable planets, if not outright making them habitable. It's like the Star Control II Mycon, except (hopefully) with less genocide. The life cycle is as follows:
1. The "meteor" impacts on the surface, deep enough that it can safely gestate
2. It seeds life and deposits humanoid lifeforms onto the surface at a somewhat early evolutionary stage
3. It grows tendrils across the entire ocean, which grow pods like rhizobia. These are the "corrucysts".
4. It waits for the humanoid caretakers to find the corrucysts and to interface with them.
5. Once they interface, or after sufficient time has passed, it can start Calling them back, prompting them to find the Meteor.
6. They merge back into the Meteorite which then splits apart in a form of sexual reproduction
7. The planet probably fucking explodes and flings the meteorites to new destinations
The human meteorite is older than the Obesk one but, for some reason, its tendrils got cut off and it was unable to grow any corrucysts, yet it's Calling anyway.
Is this the book of Genesis? Yeah probably. Proof? Trust me bro.

>>723782151
>The human meteorite is older than the Obesk one but, for some reason, its tendrils got cut off and it was unable to grow any corrucysts, yet it's Calling anyway.
presumably the human meteorite ended up getting fucked by tectonic shifts. and we know that a ship sinking is what woke up the meteorite (tl;dr: confirmed in a tumblr Q&A. someone asked him about character ships and he diverted it into an answer about a ship that sunk and crossed a threshold that shouldn't be).
the most likely case is that the clemens sinking provided just enough metal as food to let it send out an SoS.

>>723779440
yeah I started recently and explored the Ozo the moment I found one of the membrane splits floating around, think it was even before EP2, using the Joy mask everywhere afterwards. you can get in there through the depths and the Parasite board has another drop-off into the Ozo.
Joy and Freedom masks are pretty cool, Unity could have more uses but Hunger is mostly disappointing. I wish the GAD mechanics were more in-depth, actually using the Global Consciousness bullshit for something is a really neat idea.

>>723782151
those are my thoughts as well but there's not enough information about velzie and his motives to know for sure, because overall the corru hivemind is shown as barely intelligent throughout the entire ceremony sequence, while velzie is not only obviously sentient, but is also pretty smart, and he doesn't seem to have any apparent ties to the larger corru. there's probably at least one more layer of things we are completely not aware of, beying both obesk conspiracies and corrucystic nature, so we don't really know what role the meteorite plays.

>>723782375
But is it tectonic activity that did it in? Poor exotic metals, since "copper" is the easiest to get and doesn't really occur in such depths? Do we know about whether the Obesk world has tectonic activity? The Meteorite probably just starved.

>>723782521
Velzie is heavily implied to be something completely unrelated to either Akizet's memories or maybe even corru itself. Since the corrucyst was found in the depths, it might've actually been a more coherent thoughtform transmitted by the Meteorite, but that doesn't entirely fit. I think it's some kind of Dull lifeform because of the way it looks and the effects it causes. He might actually be God – of corru, some kind of central entity tasked with spreading it, and Velzie is an agent thoughtform. The Meteorites might just be what allows Him to stay anchored to reality through Dull contrivances.

>>723780534
>he doesn't like the four (three) niggas in a row genre
Just turn it off bro

here's a shitty diagram of the cyst's denizens i've drawn before ep4

>>723782145
>according to corruworks we arent at the halfway point
Dang. I would not have expected that. I thought it'd be finishing up by the time we got through the Embassy.

>>723782418
I like the Ozo toys in general but it pisses me off that Joy and Hunger are mutually exclusive masks that make random shit appear out of nowhere. I don't see a pattern for when they need to be used. I guess I'm supposed to be constantly popping open the menu to check GAD? Otherwise I randomly flip them on and off and hope something shows up. Give me a visual cue or something.

On the other hand, Unity does exactly what I expect and Freedom is cool enough for me to never take it off

>>723783112
the Embassy is the Conflict part of the narrative arc, we aren't even at the climax. remember, there's still the whole Dull connection Akizet has built into the cyst, which should theoretically allow communicating with all the Obesk as a whole.

as far as I care, Hunger is the "revisit temporary places (that are also accessible with low GAD)" mask. it serves no actual purpose other than letting you retrieve Geli but I don't see how Joy couldn't also unlock that passage in Golem Maintenance, and yet another mobility aid among mobility aids. it honestly should be completely remade and actually correspond to the Fairy's hunger so you can eat memories

>>723783386
>Dull connection Akizet has built into the cyst, which should theoretically allow communicating with all the Obesk as a whole
reminder that before .observer corru has worked on .network, and you would've been playing as some ragtag corru hacker with an illegal mindspike who tries to infiltrate the embassy network and potentially the collective.

>>723783554
and we're still playing as a ragtag hacker with a ragfag in a hoodie, except hired by the feds who caused the entire fuckup in the first place
too real to be desu

>>723783025
You're missing the most important character of all

is there an overview of the story, like a video or a longtext, for morons like me?
like I understand the major story beats for example Aki working with humans, meteorite, most of the things happening during the collapse
but I completely miss things like character relationships (who's who's friend/enemy etc), wtf happened with the final boss, stuff like that

>>723782521
Velzie's identity is Telyu, right? She seems to be working for the Obesk government which wanted to keep the hivemind song bullshit under wraps. That's why she helps Aki kill it but refused to use the timestopper because the mental connection would compromise her. More obviously she has the same face as Velzie. This would explain why Vel wants to phone home so bad

>>723782521
>>723782793
>>723784457
velzie is an echo of the storm, which is contains an echo of akizet.
when velzie destroys the interview, akizet calls it out as "an echo of an echo".
how would akizet be able to recognize it as something that specific unless velzie comes from something that akizet knew very well.

>>723784457
retcon alert!
pre episode 4, the translation core miniboss in golem maintenance had a special hallucination sprite for each character, and IK golem, Karik specifically, had a generic generic obesk sillouette associated with him, but after the ep4 - the silloute was changed to Telyu, which means that her design has not been finalized before the update which wouldn't make sense for your hypothesis.

>>723784598
yeah, that's very possible. helps that The Storm also communicated via the Dull, that I know, so it could have easily hopped over.
there's also the part that Velzie "doesn't want you to see" that's accessed behind the excised interview.

>>723784431
there's the pretty lacking wiki, otherwise there's only personal notes
if by 'final boss' you mean the end of Collapse and the Ceremony, then that's a mystery that's still yet to be unfolded. Vekoa got banished back into the groundsmindry core, the ceremony got interrupted, the Embassy collapsed, some escaped via movefriends or Tozik ejecting everyone. casualties still mostly unknown; Tozik (very probably) dead and burried within the Embassy, Kazki probably fled off Earth. Vekoa, the groundsmindry attendant, Malvi, the archivist you can talk to in Better Times via proxy, Miltza, Dozkallvi and others were absorbed into the Ceremony.

>>723785428
>Kazki probably fled off Earth
Which is doubly intriguing, since the parasite board shows that she's aligned with the assimilationists. She was either one of the ceremony initiators and got consumed first, or her side of the conspiracy also had an internal divide so she fled upon catching a whim of it happening.

>>723785668
She couldn't have been consumed first since you can talk to her in the Pale Halls via communicator. That's how you find out she's planning to fuck off offa Erf

>>723769484 (OP)
>neat webcomic with cool art direction
>look inside embassy
>Homestuck clone

>>723786834
Since when is Homestuck Earthbound?

Something about NoisyRejects and saiiko tracks doesn't sit well with me. Corru's music always has this subtle texture other composers lack, although i do prefer their combat tracks over corru's

I want to play this game again but I fucking hate turn-based RPGs.
Maybe I'll get back to it when it fully releases.

>>723787261
the turn-based part is only in the Embassy and you can skip the entire thing

the funniest thing about the homestuck comparison is that according to works, the whole idea for the game and story predated homestuck significantly.
been told that there was one time where they had to scrap an idea because homestuck incidentally did basically the same thing at like, the same time they were coming up with it. lol lmao

>>723787307
And miss out on lore? I'd rather kill myself.

>>723787785
he meant you can skip the combat, you still get all the lore.

>>723787785
funnily enough, skipping gameplay sometimes results in slightly different dialogue, i.e. aki makes a specific remark about how ceremony projections in pale halls feel neither material or immaterial.

I quit once I got to the ozo stuff I really could not give less of a shit about that fuckers deal

do you think kazki would call it her qoussy

>>723788591
what's the actual chance that she, you know...
considering how often she has been around humans

>>723788591
imagine the smell

>open thread
>assaulted with black boxes
I want to click but I know I shouldn't
Is this game good?

>>723788684
probably not sexo but she has absoqoutely kissed an envoy in the midst of a citrus-fueled haze of passion. feels in character.

>>723788993
tl;dr:
you're a contractor working for a government agency with your glowie friend.
your goal is to explore a starving alien biocomputer to solve the mystery of "where did the aliens go?" but its been starving for 30 years so things are a bit funky.
also given your image i am going to assume you like monster girls and say that the aliens are explicitly confirmed to be "humans with funny antenna and occasional chitin patches"

>>723788993
do you like hypnospace outlaws?
this is similar except aliens

FUCK i miss miltza
they did her dirty

>>723789275
she did herself dirty

Who actually is the developer even?

>>723788993
It's fine. There's no barrier to entry so there's no reason not to see for yourself. The draw is the game's weird little world and it gets in your face pretty quick so you should be able to tell if you won't like it

>>723789314
her tonal shift from ep3 to ep4 is unexplainable
why the hell she went from being somewhat secluded but confident, using her skills and natural tir alignment to help others to a nervous bitch on a whim, ESPECIALLY since she was aligned and knew exactly where all of this was going.

>>723789349
his online persona is quite literally just "i am da corru man"
c.ob isnt the only thing he intends to make with the setting either.

>>723789609
he's actually quite a nice dude despite the state of the community
you can email him and he'll most likely reply to any stupid shit as long as it's funny and related to the game somehow
i know because i have

>>723789731
>actual interaction becomes less possible as his fanbase gets bigger
>but while niche he's stuck with DiD "haver" hell (many of which pretend to have a headmate based off of the main characters), endless pronoun people constantly trying to say "AKIZET IS TRANS-CASTE!", the "muh representation" people who will inevitably have a meltdown when moth and interloper's sex's are revealed, and yurifags that completely ignore all the akizetXcavik setup because she's also friends with isabel.
fucking grim, honestly. he's had this setting in his head since before homestuck was even a thing and when he finally managed to make something he wanted to share it was at the WORST possible time to have a remotely decent fanbase.

>>723790116
they do that care about romantic shit, man
they have left their bodies on obeski and any possibility of long term relationships which aren't strictly job related there with them

>>723790260
akizet and cavik were very close larval friends, and if they survived longer they probably would've had the obesk equivalent of marriage.

>>723790260
this ain't star trek, they're not consumate professionals. in fact, they seem a lot more like kids on a field trip from akizet's perspective than anything else. even with akizet there's a lot of relantionship buildup, like between her and cavik, between her and kazki, or between her and isabel. none of it I would describe as "romantic" but they sure are close friends.
also, their bodies are dead, it isn't like they really care. honestly I'm more surprised that they don't take "backups" of their personalities somewhere, sounds like it would be the reasonable thing to do even before you start engineering Echoes.

>>723790559
>sounds like it would be the reasonable thing to do even before you start engineering Echoes.
With how much social conditioning there is to Echoes, i assume it would probably hit some moral issues. Honestly, considering how early they got this technology as a civilization it's safe to assume that obesk might be actually less socially developed than humans.

>>723790948
>moral issues
Which are referenced in the Better Times latest chapter in relation to one of the bright cousins going "isn't that fucked up", Moth has something to say about that

Anyway, what's this fucking thing anyway? Is it the Clemens Romanus? The Meteorite? Akizet's Dull vessel?

>>723791183
that would in fact be the meteor.

>>723791183
>Anyway, what's this fucking thing anyway?
Clemens Romanis is connected to shitton of other thoughspaces, so i think Moth's explanation of some other incoherent thoughtform bleeding into the ship might be accurate. It's too ambiguous to tell exactly what this is, but it's definitely somehow connected to the ship, underwater corru and the meteor.

>>723791375
If it's actually the meteor and it isn't just imagination, then that's concerning. But it's probably just imagination, either Akizet's or the cyst's itself.

>>723791953
its confirmed that the clemens fell on the meteor and started the call.
the noise on that tile is also featured in [our last stand], when you fight against the ceremony.