Thread 723836717

Watching pokeslop outsell ninja gaiden 100:1 has made me realize gamers are just retarded. The people who actually care about gameplay will always be outnumbered.

I think it's time to move on from this hobby I've been having more fun making music lately. Gaming is never going to be anything but slop.

Those two games are not remotely similar.

>>723836717 (OP)
Why are you getting into music?? Artists with the most music sales are making slop. Find another hobby quickly! Without any sloppa this time

Yes, all tendies should leave gaming instantly and forever. There's nothing for you jere.

>>723836847
Indeed. Ninja gaiden is a good game while Pokémon ZA is a terrible game.

girls play pokemon
girls don't play ninja gaiden
girls make up 50% of the gaming population

>>723836717 (OP)
I don't know that there's a lot of overlap between those fanbases. Regardless, If the budgets for these Pokemon games are true then they break even in the first day and everything else is profit. It's a great racket.

>>723836717 (OP)
Pokemon ZA is actually a fun game.
>b-b-b-b-but the grafics!
Don't care.

Also I don't get my opinions on games from /v/ or some zoomie youtuber.

>>723836717 (OP)
>games that broke you

Not just Pokemon

>>723837008
Beautiful water

>>723836717 (OP)
It’s way more fun though

>>723836717 (OP)
why do you care how other people spend their money?

ninja gaiden 4 came out? Why the fuck didnt they advertise it?

>>723836717 (OP)
>I think it's time to move on from this hobby
Just play the games that you love. Don't let your enjoyment of games be soured by retards. Ninja Gaiden was never a top seller, so I expected it to sell badly. It may get a resurgence several years from now like a lot of great action games, but the point still stands. Trust me, you don't want the games you love becoming popular. Just look at SMT/Persona, Armored Core, DMC and above all others, Monster Hunter. Play old games and play niche games.

>>723836717 (OP)
I thought we wanted that tho

>>723836717 (OP)
You just NOW realized this?

Why do you think we always told you sales don't matter?

If it took you this long to realize that’s on you for being retarded.

>>723836717 (OP)
I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift outsells whatever music you like too.

What a dumb thread.

>>723836717 (OP)
>The people who actually care about gameplay will always be outnumbered.
I haven't seen anything that would tell me I'd have better fun gameplay in Ninja Garden, and I think Pokemon looks like shit
Skill gameplay =/= fun gameplay

>>723837141
Xbox paid for the development and was handling the marketing. Dunno if you noticed, but Xbox is currently imploding.

>>723837243
This

Holy fuck OP is retarded

Going with thread theme. What games BROKE you also as much as OP?

>>723836717 (OP)
People are more interested in the latest release of one of the most popular franchises in the world over a series most forgot even existed?
Color me shocked!

>>723837312
Wait there are people on 4chan who aren't salesfags?

Why does the texture also need to look like shit? That little curve in the window texture should be a perfectly smooth arc, but its not.

>>723837258
Only you mindless ants find this fun

>>723837354
tendie hardware is celeron 400 mhz, riva tnt 2 32mb and 32mb ram, pls understand

>pokeslop outsell ninja gaiden 100:1
That's just wild because they are totally targeting the same people.
So what, you can't enjoy a game unless it's the most popular game or something? You're in for one hell of a shock if you're moving from video games to music.

>>723836717 (OP)
Pokémon was always gonna outsell ninja Gaiden.
>Broader appeal
>Iconic characters
>Memberberries
>Continued momentum
Nobody knows Ryu and Rachel nearly as much they know Pikachu or Greninja. Ninja Gaiden has been too dormant of an IP until now too.

>>723837008
when it zoomed in and i noticed the water movement i choked

Im not buying either but Id rather get pokemon because I dont like action games anymore

>>723836717 (OP)
>I can’t enjoy something unless it’s popular with most people.
Does it matter? If someone enjoyed the most unpopular and/or hated videogame ever, whatever that is, that’s fine.

>>723837168
Shorter games =/= bad games.

>>723837008
that's where the oceans meet retard
the waters don't mix

>>723836717 (OP)
>THE WINDOWS ON THE BUILDINGS IN A CITY SHOULD BE MORE VARIED

Meanwhile, actual buildings in a city:

>>723837008
this looks like one of those cheap, weird jrpgs on ps3

>>723838496
YOU ARE CHERRY PICKING URBAN ARCHITECTURE, FUCK OFF!!!!!!

>>723836717 (OP)
I don't have a horse in this race, but windows are standardized and mass produced. Multiple buildings in a city can use the same windows.
>t. architect

>>723836717 (OP)
Windows are copy pasted like that irl all the time though.

>>723836717 (OP)
Wow, even one of trump's propaganda rags is shtting on pokemon.
MIGA is scared shitless of Pokemon and Nintendo if they're bringing out the normalfag groups to attack them.

>>723838496
Ground level is different, ruralfag

NOOOOO THE BUILDING CAN'T JUST BE A FLAT TEXTURE WE NEED ALL OF THOSE WINDOWS FULLY MODELED REEEEEE

>>723836717 (OP)
>normalfags are retarded so (YOU) should stop playing videogames chud

>>723836717 (OP)
People realizing things that have been commonplace in video games for 30+ years is so tiresome at this point. Especially when they act all smug about it like they just uncovered some big conspiracy.

>>723837354
it seems to be a baked texture from a model instead of one that they just hand-painted. Hence the polygonal nature of it.

>>723836717 (OP)
>one of the most popular franchises in general outsells a more than a niche video game series
Who would have thought this could happen

>>723838762
OH YOU ARE SO LIGHT HONOLABLE BIG CITY SAN, GLOUND LEVEL IS VELLLLY DIFFELENT

>>723838850
>Cherry-picking a singular building, in which a picture only exists to show how ugly/abnormal it is

Guys you gotta come see this thread. The palantir spam bots are cherry picking buildings to try and one up one another.

>>723839293
Idk I googled "Typical city building" and it looks pretty similar

>>723839034
Yep. This is a 100% true fact of life. I am literally the ultimate form of intelligence. God in the flesh.

>>723836717 (OP)
I think it's time you stop shitting in the street, rajesh

>>723839464
The ac game from 10 years ago looks better than pokeslop

>>723839626
Ok but that has nothing to do with this conversation.

>>723839626
games are supposed to be fun, if you want to admire the scenery watch a movie or get out of your house

>>723836717 (OP)
NG4 is a completely average game, and I'm not shelling $70 for something "okay"
Pokémon fans are crazy retards yeah but don't be surprised if some niche AA game flopped

>>723836937
And ninja gaiden is still flopping lmao kys

>>723839813
Pokemon isn't fun, the gameplay is total dogshit.

>>723837008
Pretty sure something similar to this can actually occur in reality.

>>723836948
>girls make up 50% of the gaming population
Trannies are not girls

>>723838287
This
/thread

Can someone explain to me why /v/ cares so much if a game is popular or not? Why not just play the game?

>>723839293
There is A LOT of cherries to pick here. So many it's more of a rule than the exception.

>>723840368
Been the case since Steam chart and Livestream # posting
Its gay af

Nintendr*nes truly have the lowest standards.
Yes I have to censor because this gay site filters it. Fucking paid shills

>>723836717 (OP)

But the gameplay of pokemon IS good. It's a step forward for the battle system.

It's the graphics that are shit, and graphics mean jack shit to me.

>>723840368
It wasn't this way for a while. /v/ would always just ignore the "well it's popular so it must be good" argument. Then the Halo and other console kiddies grew up. Now it's all steam charts, reviewer scores, and jumping from new game to new game. It's been one hell of a fall.

>>723840368
95% of "game discussion" on this board has been Steam chart and sales posting for many years now, why are you just now asking this? The reason is that most of this board is jaded poorfags who can't afford to play games themselves, so instead they look for games that are financial flops to shitpost about to make themselves feel better. Have you ever noticed how most criticism about a game on this board comes from Twitter screenshots and not one faggot can actually say anything concrete about the gameplay? There's a reason for that.

>>723836717 (OP)
I don't like pokemon or have any interests in any of the games but seeing faggots like you troon out because they do well is honestly hilarious.

>>723840602
You have to be an an actual lobotomite to think that gameplay is good.

>>723836717 (OP)
(Nintendo) hire this man

>>723840268
Ironically trannies are more likely to play ninja gaiden than the average male gamer.

>>723836847
This reminds me of some shit I've started noticing. Games either delaying or talking about fearing the releases of big games that aren't similar at all. You'll see even niche games that will sell regardless with this fear or fans acting like they are bold for it. It doesn't make sense. How does the release of the latest AAA game mean a release is suddenly bad for other games?

>>723836717 (OP)
Shit does nothing but sell while the actually good games get barely noticed. I hate this franchise so much.

>>723840170
you didn't play it

>>723839813
And where is the fun exactly?

>>723841480
legends za isn't turn-based, jeet-kun

>>723838535
>cheap, weird jrpgs on ps3
name 5 of them

How do these newer Pokemon spin offs work? Can you transfer Pokemon to and from them yet? Have they made the transfer bank work better without requiring you to spend a monthly fee? I only want to play ZA if you own what you catch.

>>723839813
VIDEO games are half VIDEO half GAMES, graphic style is equally as important as the gameplay whether you faggots like it or not. that's why nobody in 2025 is playing text based "video" games because they are dogshit.

>>723841678
Trails of Cold Steel
Trails of Cold Steel 2
Resonance of Fate
Lost Dimension
Nier

>>723841146
The average gamer buys 1-3 games per year. The games industry is propped up by whales that buy lots of game. If you release your small game at the same time as the big game, you are competing for the 1-3 purchases the average gamer makes. This is why you NEED to understand your target audience and cater to them, because if you do then your target audience will skip the big game and buy your small game instead. You have to keep in mind that for the majority of people that bought, say Borderlands 4, that may be the ONLY game they will have bought for the entire year and will be the only game they buy until 2026. Buying and playing many games is a millennial phenomenon. Zoomers in general just hyper focus on singular multiplayer titles and chase the hype/zeitgeist.

Also, this isn't really new. We dealt with a similar problem during the 360/PS3 era with brown and bloom, 2edgy4you games, the casualization of games for consoles, and butchered "appeal to a wider audience" sequel. Nothing happening in this industry currently is fundamentally any different than what has happened in the past.

>>723841680
You can transfer to ZA but not back out to S/V

>>723836937
>rollslop is good
It's 2025, not 2018. You can stop the LARP.

>>723842404
>half VIDEO half GAMES
Yeah.
Nobody said the video has to be immaculate. Otherwise Mega Man wouldn't be fun in Current Year + 10

>>723840368
The internet in general has made people crave validation for their opinions so everyone has to give their take no matter how informed

>>723842404
videogames are supposed to be 95% games and only 5% videogames, zoomer-kun, they were never supposed to be interactive movies (apart from certain niche genres)

>>723842526
all of those games look a million times better than the latest pokemon game

>>723841680
>To
Yes
>From
No, only forward.

>>723842825
obviously meant only 5% video

>>723842826
>Haha

>>723836717 (OP)
Based anon. I've branched out to audiobooks and board games. Audiobooks are troublesome though. Didn't realize the book industry nowadays is 99% slop with 99% females as the customer base. So you gotta look hard for gems. But all in all it gives me more satisfaction nowadays than vidya slop

>>723836717 (OP)
>gameplay
>picture is about visuals
Kys

>>723842946
...yeah?

>>723842946
yes, that looks better.

>>723842535
I'll keep this in mind when releasing my vampire survivorslike, thank you. I'm gonna be so rich.

>>723842946
That game was on the PS vita and still looks too close to Pokemon

>>723843074
>>723843105
I think ZA is ugly as fuck, but come on, man. It absolutely does not "look better." They're a similar level of environment fidelity. Pokemon's got slightly better lighting and way better character/monster models and animations. Be real.

>>723843175
This is true though. Ugly ass game.

>>723842586
>>723842836
What happened with Arceus? When new games come out will Pokemon be able to leave France?

>>723843576
>What happened with Arceus?
Old Pokemon could go backwards but new Pokemon could go forward.
>Will they be able to go to new games?
If they win the Dex Lottery, sure.

>>723843525
roer looked way better than this shit, i'm sorry. gamefreak just seems to lack the standard level of competency for jap game creation. even trails in the sky looked better than the new pokemon game.
https://youtu.be/BrMlQuSYIh0?si=Q_KZxnqV9Q8U4Lhl&t=943

>>723836717 (OP)
Ninja gaiden is out?

>>723840659
>>723840469
Such a sad sad state of affairs
This board is compromised

>>723836948
>girls make up 50% of the gaming population
That number includes mobile "gaming" like Candy Crush, right?

>>723840368
nu/v/ is shit

>>723843815
That is the exact same shit as Lumiose. And you're ignoring the N64 ass NPCs. Come the fuck on. I'm not even defending this shit, it's ugly as hell, but you're so fucking full of it.

All I know about Ninja Gaiden is it was the hardest game of all time on the original Xbox, according to most people. Nintendo kids and Gaystation niggas could never.

And that's just not appealing me to me, these butthole stretching games. Even moreso now as an adult since I work 45 hours a week.

>>723836717 (OP)
Lmao goddamn NG4jeets are seething so hard today

>>723836717 (OP)
Sales have NEVER represented the quality of a game. The bulk of sales of 100% of games comes from casuals and normies. Pokemon will always sell well just like GTA6 will sell bonkers too even if it's the worst game ever made in history. Sport games will always be some of the best sellers, Call of Duty will always be one of the best selling games literally every year. nothing has really changed and sales don't mean shit and never did.

>>723843910
I don’t think so no

>>723844129
wow, look how many details are chiseled in the building behind them. it's almost as if falcom didn't think they could just put a flat texture on a cube and call it a day

>>723843121
Make sure you have survival/crafting and gambling elements too.

>>723844306
>Sidesteps around the discussion.
I knew it. Disingenuous drama faggot.

>>723836717 (OP)
Why not just play Ninja Gaiden and stuff that interests you while ignoring Pokeslop?
Billions eat McDonalds each day and that doesn't stop me from eating food or going to a local restaurant I like.

>>723836717 (OP)
If you don't enjoy gaming anymore then yea, you should find another hobby. A hobby is something that should bring you some measure of joy and purpose to life and if gaming is no longer doing that for you, then it's time to either take a break or move on.

Now if you're quitting a hobby you enjoy solely because retards are spending their money on something retarded, then you are also retarded, no offense meant. Like yeah Nintendo is a shitty company, that does shitty things to their consumers, and has clearly stopped trying to produce a quality product or give their consumers a quality experience. Anyone who is still supporting them is likely either buying a video game for a loved one, or is buying a game because Nintendo made it.

There's still plenty of good games being made and still plenty of good gaming communities out there that have nothing to do with Nintendo. If you're leaving solely because of people buying Nintendo slop, rethink your actions. Don't let retards ruin the thing you love... Or if you just don't enjoy gaming disregard what I said, I suck cocks.

Newsflash for /v/

SALES

DONT

MEAN

SHIT

>>723842771
it doesn't have to go for realism, but it has to look cool. shadow of the colossus looks great for all its limitations. pokemon za looks like dog shit.

>>723844663
/thread

>>723836717 (OP)
It's marketing you fucking idiot. No one even knew a new Ninja Gaiden was coming. Even Digimon outsold Ninja Gaiden 4. Stop seething you big baby.

>>723846149
Don't blame marketing
It's the normalfag mainstream audiences fault

>>723836717 (OP)
>reused textures are le bad
Tell me what game DOESN'T reuse textures here and there

>>723836717 (OP)
i'm playing both :O)

>>723836717 (OP)
I only play RPGs so I chose Pokemon, maybe if they made Ninja Gaiden 4 an RPG I would've played it instead of pokemon, but as far as I'm concerned pokemon is superior just for the fact that it's an RPG

I bought it.
I like it.
I think it's better than any Pokemon game released in the past decade.
I do not care about the fucking windows.

>>723836717 (OP)
this is what you fucking get for making a genre inaccessible.

You wanna sell better? make a game that is both accessible and challenging, if not stop bitching

Mind you I'm not defending nor justifying Pokeslop, I'm attacking actionfags that are elitists POS, NOTHING is ever enough to them.

FUCK YOU.

>>723836902
Kek

>>723836717 (OP)
>I think it's time to move on from this hobby I've been having more fun making music lately.

Bye. Dont let the door hit you on your way out.

>>723840368
In this instance it's a pokefag thing specifically, basically they want Gamefreak to be financially punished for not including the nat dex and not making the games survival adventure but the series keeps growing focused on combat and a more seasonal game structure so they go on the internet and cry everywhere

>>723836717 (OP)
pokemon players arent gamers. pokemon gets bought by
>children that get the game blasted to them in their roblox ads
>nintendo casuals that buy 5 nintendo games a year, play 3 hours a week, and then go back to their 9 to 5 jobs
>women, in general.
when you use the word "gamer", theres no way you actually want to include any of the people mentioned above.
and ifnyou dont believe me go look up pokemon videos. men are generally shitting on the game, while women, that have no real standard for quality games, just eat the slop up becaue "oh my good pikachu is so cuuuuuute"
just ignore virality and support good games that you find here and there.

>>723849641
>pokemon gets bought by working men and women and children
What's the point of a strawman if it's going to include that many people in it?

>>723850218
its not a strawman, its the truth. just because theres people that buy pokemon games casually doesnt mean theyre "gamers". its like comparing the average public that watches movies to dedicated movie critics, or dedicated "horror movie" fans.
like for example, whats happening right now with book reading. would you call those middle age women reading goonslop books about fucking vampires and milking minotaurs actual "book fans"?
They're just a casual audience that just scrapes the surface of the hobby.

>>723836717 (OP)
every media has slop like fifa and pokemon
chasing purity in mass media is futile

>>723842656
did you even play ZA or do we not have object permanence, yet that game is literal rollslop too wtf are you talking about

>>723836717 (OP)
I feel you OP, I only play niche old games and got into oil painting, life is good

>>723837148
This guy gets it, it's a hobby not a job. Just have fun with the games you like, gaming was never about trillion dollar hits, that mentality of more money/popular=better is beyond retard only a validation seeking NPC would buy

>>723836717 (OP)
>Action game vs real time rpg
??? You ok bro?

>>723836717 (OP)
Not reading this thread, keep making music and ditch video games forever, definitely the correct and fulfilling choice without question.

Another Microsoft Microflop good riddance.

>>723844493
details are part of graphics r-tard

>>723837008
That'll be 80 dollars plus tax please.

>>723836717 (OP)
>Buying another Ninja Gaiden game after 3
Lmao not on your life fag

>>723836717 (OP)
pokemon is unironically way more fun than platinum game slop, have you not played bayoneta 3 or babylon fall thet are stuck in the 2010s

>>723836937
>Ninja gaiden is a good game
Post your playtime. You won't.