Thread 723852356

>take the arcade density pill
>cant go back to westoidslop

Arcade games are honestly dogshit. PC games from the 90s and early 2000s are for real men.

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I thought the appeal of stuff like Pacman and old Mario was that there was nothing around so anything slightly good would have the spotlight.

Then I played games in an arcade earlier this year and discovered how fun these two were and how much more enjoyable than much of the competition they were.

>>723852718
"Go play Mars Matrix."
--xoxak

>>723852356 (OP)
>cant go back to westoidslop
Not even these?
https://youtu.be/2LNE0Go79zo
https://youtu.be/dVWF9Toj4EY

>>723853797
Shmup memes are so unfunny.

>>723852718
Only the most casual dad gamer would play some crap like this.

>>723852356 (OP)
In linear games you really don't miss much like in modern games, and you experience everything for the most part. In modern games, usually openworld, you beat it while missing a shit ton of side content, but backtracking sucks dick so you drop the game while probably experiencing 50% of it.

>>723853861
D'don Patch
Guh-WAAAAANG
Cat-suey Demo Label

>>723853861
This is pretty funny
https://youtu.be/8hM8N6Xr1Hg

>>723853897
We need not say the kind of man, or perhaps "ma'am" who plays shmups.

>>723853961
>"Treasure's Best." I dunno what dey worst is, I didn't play Guardian Heroes.
As much as I like Cave and Treasure, he's spot-on with every single critique and I ain't even mad.

>>723853979
Nah don't even start with that, you're the sole reason this board sucks ass now. Screaming about trannies doesn't make it okay to play nothing but slop.

>>723854493
Shmups and fighting games are objectively the slopmost genres of the 90's.

>>723854561
If you're gunna play casual slop because it has some sword and sorcery pulp aesthetic then there's absolutely no use for you. I always side with who plays the best games.

>>723854561
Says you, bitch nigga.

play the demo

>>723854647
Nobody with taste considers autoscroller copypaste garbage good, let alone the best games.

Mobile phone games are arcade style

>>723852356 (OP)
I hate you Mork

>>723852943
beat me to it

>>723854727
https://youtu.be/w_sfQy9AUfQ
Weird that there's shmups and fighting games here, not RPGs. I bet you're such a tourist you won't even recognize the top comment.

>>723854714
no, too easy, try darwin 4078 or any old arcade shoot 'em up

That's waaaay too generous with modern AAA

>>723855008
>no, too easy
post your stage 3 hard

>>723852356 (OP)
The right one is cubic primitive unit cell which is the least densely packed cubic cell. Ffc and bcc (or hcp) have higher density
What is the bcc of Vidya?

>>723854952
>this shitty cartoon liked by a pedophile has shitty genres in its opening
Nobody cares.

>>723855492
uh oh, newgirl had to go to knowyourmeme and now shes mad. you'll never fit in and you'll never be an oldfag.

Multiplayer shooters like TF2.have even more density. No bullshit, just infinitely variable gameplay because you're playin with real people instead of a copypasted level or a dumb AI

>>723852530
Vampire Survivors was arcade kino all along

>>723855570
>you'll never fit in
This is coming from the guy who stands out like sore thumb in every thread he posts in. Autism at it's finest.

>>723855635
I don't like TF2 because the map design is so incredibly bad. Its literally just DOTA maps with people funneled into lanes. In this way its not really surprising deadlock was made.

>>723852943
It's funny that someone would try to paint this as a negative.

>>723852356 (OP) in rpg "games" you barely have a single circle

>>723855757
Games only being 30 minutes long is generally a bad thing.

>>723852356 (OP)
>westoidslop
Is this that statement supposed to be ironic, given that some of the best and most influential arcade games of all time were made by the West, and that any time the West were tasked to make a sequel or created a conversion kit for a Japanese game, it was far superior than any sequel those silly Japs would make

This board will endlessly bitch about "gameplay density" and then ignore pure gameplay stuff like megabonk, halls of torment and so on just because they are popular. Missing forest for the trees

>>723854714
Kinda hard when you don’t tell me the name

>>723852530
What makes Robotron so enduring is that anything done to change it would make it worse. Resogun was a much better evolution of Defender than Nex Machina was of Robotron.

>>723855670
VS wishes that it was as good as Robotron. I don't hate VS but the only time that game is arguably any good is at the beginning of a new account, when choices matter and there is an actual risk of losing the round.

>>723856031
They're ignored because they're shallow crap

>Play turn based RPG
>Assemble your classes out of dozens of choices
>Pick out the best gear for whatever synergies your going with out of thousands of choices
>Explore the world, find secrets, battle secret bosses and get secret gear
>Get attached to the characters and story
>Find new characters, discover new synergies
>Figure out how to deal with thousands of different enemies, all in different combinations with different attacks
>Learn the systems so well you break the game, and its still not enough for some super bosses
>Potential hundreds of hours of content
Anon: UGHHHH WHERE'S ALL THE LE GAMEPLAY DENSITY

>Play Arcade game
>You're a dot firing dots at other dots
>You do this for 5 stages with an increasing number of dots for 20 minutes
>When you're done, you do the exact same thing again, but try to fire the dots better so you get a better score number at the end
Anon: HOLY AMAZEBALLS I LOVE DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER THAT'S WHAT GAMEPLAY DENSITY IS!! IT'S SO DENSE JUST LIKE MY HECKIN' FAVORITE YOUTUBER TOLD ME!!!

>>723856029
yeah we all love worship those american masterpieces like street fighter the movie and strider returns

>>723856072
>>723853849

>>723856031
>roguelike
>Vampire Survivors dogshit

>>723856175
>Play turn based RPG
>Watch bars go up over time, regardless of how unskilled you are
>Watch your avatar improve, regardless of how unskilled you are
>Pick out the singular best gear and skills because everything else is dogshit, either from the outset or over time as new things are unlocked
>Sit through tedious exposition, spending precious time not actually playing the fucking game

Anon: pure kino

>Play arcade game
>Immediately and continuously do what the game is designed for you to do, skip all pointless bullshit like character exposition
>Immediately get wrecked if you suck
>Have continuous metrics for how well you play to guide you on how good you can become

Anon: idgi

>>723856532
Practicing the same bullshit hundreds of times is speedrunner tier autism.

>>723856613
I'd rather develop skill in playing one game than experiencing ten of them. We can both cut the chase and watch summaries of the stories if we felt like it.

>>723856821
>I'd rather develop skill in playing one game than experiencing ten of them.
Okay? Being an extrinsically motivated drone is something I can never relate to.

>>723854952
If you're saying that RPGs don't belong to early 2000's anime culture then you'd be wrong. I'm pretty sure RPGMaker was at the height of its popularity with it's year 2000 release so there were lots of doujin games that used it. Its original version released back in 97' too so it's even older than that.

>>723857028
The RPGmaker community is its own insular thing, like Sonic the Hedgehog OCs, and you can see that reflected in its current state of cancer.

>>723853939
I prefer this

>>723853939
But Zones is objectively the best way to make a game. You can play through it at least a half dozen times and experience something new every time just by taking different paths. As long as there's quick travel between zones not connected directly by load transitions it's great. Much better than levels where you play the exact same game every time.

>>723855570
You will never be a woman

>>723857980
The density is bad if you have to replay different paths in ng. The rule for good density is one playthrough and devs maximizing unique, unmissable challenges for the run. "zone" games are good, but proper levels with attention to detail are unmatched.

>>723858719
>The density is bad if you have to replay different paths in ng
Says who? What's stopping devs from creating zones with the same "density" as levels?

>>723858932
Hmm, you're right. The strength with zones actually is that those don't waste resources building the connecting borders, and only show you locations with purpose. Open world has to use filler by nature. For density it can be similar I think, but backtracking might just be higher with zones like that, not that it'd be automatically bad. Depends how much a game asks you to.