Thread 723862095

Will we ever return to proper handhelds? I just bought a New 3DS XL and its been the first time I've been able to enjoy gaming in ages. The ease of use, quick pickup and play value and ACTUAL portability have allowed me to enjoy vidya when life and work have me swamped.

How do we get these companies to stop making giant "portable" bricks and return to form?

>>723862095 (OP)
I'd rather play on a Switch 2 or a Rog Xbox Ally X

Gaming phones might come back. The Switch lite also exists to an extent.

no one cares anymore, unc. its an outdated trend

>>723862298
Aren't 3DS's literally popular with zoomers right now currently? They're basically getting their first taste of nostalgia and buyer their first consoles they had as kids

>>723862095 (OP)
Probably not.
Handheld consoles are dead. Its just gonna be mini-consoles like the Switch and Steam-Deck and what not, and smartphones.

>>723862095 (OP)
>The ease of use
That is a lie. 3ds is hampered by the nipple camera control.

>>723862369
no, unc. we playin valorant, scrutinized, and roblox

>>723862283
Switch lite is still pretty massive

>>723862369
no sorry your plan to be hip with the kids has failed

>>723862483
Never seen one next to a vita. wtf.

>>723862095 (OP)
Post pic with timestamp. Everyone had a miserable time playing 3DS, it's a horrible format.

the switch and even switch 2 is perfectly portable if you're not a manlet and remove joycons to put them in another pocket, which I realize is a lot to ask for the third world brown people populating /v/

>>723862702
Those aren't handhelds.

>>723862620
Literally playing right now

>>723862620
>Everyone had a miserable time playing with the 3ds
How so?

>>723862771
Umm yes they are

>>723862812
get hatsune miku, azure striker gunvolt, and dkcr
those were my fav games when i had a hacked black friday n3ds

>>723862893
the resolution is so bad. it looks even worse on the xl models. the new3ds regular had the best pixel density and looked the best

Real handhelds will never happen again because tablets which are worse overall replaced them.

The touch screen on the DS was much more responsive, and you could fluidly combo different types of taps, swipes, strikes, shakes, and shapes in motion.

Combine that with the secondary screen and the options for unique gameplay go up. Not to mention the microphone etc.

When it comes to the switch it operates much more like a tablet which is why the TWEWY remake playoffs awful on it. It's also a stationary console at heart, which is why it's gimmicks follow the switches with waggles, detached joycons got a motion sensor.

There's a fine line between the two .
>>723862965
>Uhm yes they are
The switch is closer to a phone, tablet, or stationary console than it is to a gaming handheld device. Portability is a built in feature of handhelds but it doesn't instantly make your device a handheld.

>>723863015
Which Hatsune Miku? Azure Striker was on my to do list. I only have a couple of games on mine at the moment (Tales of the Abyss, Kid Icarus Uprising, Ridge Racer and Kirby). I got a smaller SD card in my system (8GB) cause I didn't want to fall into the trap of downloading a shit load of games and not playing them. Gonna finish Tales and Kid Icarus then move to something else

>>723863073
It is pretty bad yeah I'm not gonna lie. My eyes have gotten accostumed to be screen tech so going back to this is pretty jarring. At times I can literally count the pixels and the lack of aliasing is pretty bad. I did notice playing with 3D on makes games look a lot sharper. But thats why we need NEW versions of these devices

>>723863073
I only have the original 3ds, the one that came bundled with Super Mario 3d land and it seems fine to me.

>>723862095 (OP)
Nah, phones bit off a huge chunk of potential adopters. And UMPC is a thing now for enthusiast.
There will never be a handheld exclusive game anymore.
Only thing keeping it limping are chink retro handhelds emulating decade old titles.

>>723863079
The second screen was good when the DS first came out and devs were being really experimental with it and creating unique games. By the time of the 3DS era though, they had gotten over it and most games were just normal games but with an screen on the bottom for slightly better menuing. You weren't getting shit like TWEWY anymore and sometimes the touchscreen was a detriment to the game because they would force touchscreen gimmicks into games that didn't need them. Also your opinion on what is and is not a handheld is based entirely on vibes, you haven't given any real reason as to why a Switch or Switch 2 isn't a handheld but the PSP and Vita are despite them functionally being the same except the Switch is bigger. You don't even need to reply honestly because it's just going to be the same dumb argument of "it isn't a handheld because it doesn't fit in your pocket"

>>723862095 (OP)
I'm also on a 3ds kick right now and I agree, nothing beats a proper handheld. whatchu playin?

>>723862620
There are always 3DS threads where people are enjoying their 3DS, so I have no idea where you got that idea from. I even still use my hacked 3DS for emulation and DS games

>>723862414
the only game I remember even using that thing was Zelda and I'm a talented gamer so I use L camera reset anyway

>>723863247
project mirai dx is the definitive version and has all the songs iirc
pushmo, bravely default and senran kagura burst were also good. and pokemon art studio was kind of neat if you're into that. back then i used to go to metacritic and sort by user review but i dont think they have that feature anymore
>>723863252
it doesnt bother me but i can see how it bothers some people

>>723863561
It isn't a handheld because the gameplay and focus of it are on features made for a dedicated console.
The portability is a general side note based off a tablets formfactor. You don't call a tablet a handheld gaming device. The docked mode further iterates it's wish to be a sit down console with games meant to be played on your couch, that you're given the option to take on the road with you, using joycons strapped to the sides of the tablet as a controller.
It's ergonomics is complete ass when you compare it to something like the Wii-U tablet which felt enjoyable to hold. That also signals Nintendo ideology that you should primarily be using this as a sit at home console.

The PSP existed in a more analog world, releasing prior to the iphone, advent of the smartphone/tablet. The Vita is it's continuation and last of their handhelds because they couldn't find a niche in the post tablet world, and meet the quality standard in graphics for the form factor.

You can't define why the switch stands out on its own as a handheld gaming device instead of just a tablet.

>>723862283
>Gaming phones might come back.
They never were a thing to begin with, anon...

>>723864003
this is typed poorly enough that I can't even accuse you of coaxing chat gpt into explaining why your odd fixation on a term means something. You actually wrote this.

>>723864119
Yep, you still havent defined what makes the switch a gaming console instead of just a tablet.

>>723862620
>Everyone had a miserable time playing 3DS, it's a horrible format
tf are you on about? Jaggies were a minor thing, unless you care about muh graphix that much. Speakin of 3DS

>luma update botched DS pixel perfect mode
but why?

>the switch is a handheld gaming console
>Not even as powerful as the newest iphone

>>723864161
uh oh, you're already going into the pretending to be dumb "i accept your concession" bit. You obviously have a real opinion about this, hence the essay. why trash it already?

>>723864161
so is a psp a tablet? It has a touch screen. Really if you think about it the ds is a tablet and a half

>>723864472
Im waiting for you to give an answer to the question I posited.
You refuse to engage in the matter of debate, and if you can't define what your standard for a handheld gaming device is, than I'll have to keep waiting.

>>723864560
I personally feel you have put a disproportionate ammount of value on a term, that while useful in a broad sense, is functionally worthless. Your question is not worth an answer, and if I were being judgemental, I might assume you are trying to set yourself for a "little win" no matter how trivial. I would also assume you have pattern of this behavior in your life and it annoys your friends.

>3ds arrived
>no Advance Wars
>no Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 3
>no Final Fantasy V and VI remakes in the vein of DS's III and IV
>not a single worthwile diablo-esque action RPG with a bunch of classes to design builds for (I'd fucking KILL for a Soma Bringer sequel)
>no Castlevanias like GBA and NDS ones
>Fire Emblem turned to waifushit to survive
>Pokemon turned to shit in general
>this console's original Zelda (A Link Between Worlds) turned out meh
>no JRPG rich in content like Dragon Quest IX was
>the general amount of RPGs dwindled a lot
>no unique projects like Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents, TWEWY, Trauma Center or Ghost Trick
It never came even close to the absolute horn of plenty NDS was. At least it was an SMT and Etrian Odyssey machine, I guess.
I still feel robbed with 3DS library to this day.

>>723862095 (OP)
Literally just game on your phone, there's a lot of games being released for them now.

>>723864802
>I still feel robbed with 3DS library to this day.
every shortcoming is redeemed by that Sakurai game that filtered hundreds

>>723864763
I don't care about a win. I'm just saying the identity of the switch is handheld console 4th or more down the ladder and that is different for what the identity of the
Gameboy -> gbc -> -> GBA -> GBA sp -> DS,/lite -> 3ds/XL had.

That's going to happen when you merge the identity of your home console ecosystem directly with your handheld one.

>>723864950
smash4? because kid icarus isnt that good

>>723864802
The drop from support the NDS got was pretty drastic. My 3DS very rarely does anything I didn't do with my DS.

>>723862095 (OP)
That’s what the switch is though, an underpowered handheld device that you can put on the TV
Get a lite if you want a more portable console, they’re smaller than I originally thought

>>723862095 (OP)
Probably not. Since the end of the 3DS lifespan smart phones have essentially absorbed the entire audience. Even if something crazy came out like the “psp ultra new decade edition” or “switch dualscreen portable” came out with their own library of respectable games it still wouldn’t be able to re-entice people who now use their smartphone for entertainment.

>>723865039
Dare I say, filtered?

I love how the Switch is the exact same size as the Lynx and Game Gear, consoles that were widely mocked for being massive and unwieldy in their day

People like 8th gen handhelds now?

>>723865279
>Atari Lynx
How the hell was anyone going to be able to play that shit with a button layout like that?

>>723862298
>trend
>28 years of portable affordable handhelds is considered a trend

>>723865262
you dare not because i play real shmups like mushihimesama and crisis force. not on rails sloppa

>>723862095 (OP)
the 3ds dual screen patent just expired so chinese handhelds will start producing double screen handhelds

not only will you have more powerful 3ds consoles with high refresh rate and hall effect sticks but they will please the zoomer tiktok crowd with ADHD that needs to watch those shorts with the gameplay going in the background so they will double task watching shorts and play vidya on the second screen making handhelds popular again

well this is what I hope happens at least

>>723862095 (OP)
If you need a handheld to "enjoy" gaming you don't really like video games and you're just lazy and want to consume slop.

>>723865779
Good thing KI is an hybrid then.

>>723864842
>mobileshit
no thx

>>723865279
My dad owned a game gear growing up i used an played maybe like 4 times. As a kid the size of it never felt like a big issue or problem when playing. Only two games I remember has to be power rangers and sonic.

Biggest overall problem with the game gear.
6 AA batteries for 4-6 hours of battery life.
You'd go through a 24 pack of AA batteries in a single school week.

Economically it didn't make sense to play because you'd make the house run out of batteries and if you had brothers who also had Gameboys that was a limited resource.

Battery would die before your hands had a chance to cramp at the controller size.

>>723865805
Doesn't do much when there's no incentive for a developer to utilize a second screen.
That's the cool part about console companies. They can create an entire unique gaming platform/ecosystem that's impossible to exist outside of it.

>>723865860
its overhyped. sin&punishment is way better

>>723862893
Awful ergonomics, circlepad is a war crime, screen sucks regardless of scaling, bad battery life.

>>723865486
BEHOLD

>>723866140
DAMMIT ATARI!!!!!!

>>723865971
desu by the time of the 3ds most devs stopped doing that, devs hate being original

>>723862095 (OP)
No. Whatever Sony is cooking will probably be bigger than a medium sized dog.

>>723862283
I would get a switch lite if it didn't have stick drift...