Thread 723883929

The problem is that you unironically need 120+ IQ to get this game.
That's why it went over the heads of so many gamers.

>PRESS THE BUTTON RIGHT NOW SOLDIER!
>"Uh.... can I not do that?"
>NO
>"Ok... guess I'll just press it then"
>Civilians get epically roasted by white phospherous
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOW DOOD LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID!!!! YOU KILLED HTE HECKING CIVVIES!!!!!
>YOU ARE.................LE BAD!!!

Yeah, you need 120+ IQ alright...

>>723883929 (OP)
I'M NOT EVIL
I'M A GOOD PERSON
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>723884341
I love the smell of white phosphorous in the morning. That chemical smell. Smells like victory.

>>723883929 (OP)
nobody missed the point of specs ops the line, it beat you over the head with its point. people just didn't like being railroaded. and i say this as someone who genuinely liked the game and thought it was great.

>>723883929 (OP)
>game that comments on the War on Terror
>says nothing about the causes of said war
You can really tell it was made in nu Germany.

>>723884597
>reddit elf is retarded
no surprise there

>>723883929 (OP)
>You were putting yourself in danger to save me and I started shooting at you and you shot back
>this makes you a terrible person, you need to be better men, give me more free money
Finally playing this game for myself made me realise that all along everything written about this game was typed by shit coloured hands. You have to unironically be a nigger to not side with Walker. People who think this game was any kind of coherent moral picture also think Black Hawk Down was based third worldist resistance rather than a chimpout against the hand that was feeding.

Really, Walker simply did nothing wrong. Also the plot doesn't really work but whatever, making games is hard. I liked 'Yager' (the levels set in the nice green areas anyway).

>>723884597
Unstated starting point is that browns are going to be psychotically violent and consider themselves morally unassailable and this is just meant to go unquestioned. The random nigger who gets his clan to shoot you with AKs even though you're a rescue mission, he never has to ask himself if he feels like a hero. Of course he is.

>>723883929 (OP)
Midwits are too hung up over being just way too smart for the meta twist to work to appreciate the master class direction and kinography

>>723884747
Post nose.

>>723884747
>Black Hawk Down
Wasn't that the Muttmerican mission that went horribly wrong since they went into an African country for no good reason at all?

>>723884831
The environment visuals are great but the actual cutscenes are nothing special.

>>723884341
>commit war crime
>game calls you out for it
>"bro I didn't have choice, I was just following orders" (literally most common defense used by war criminals during trials)
This is literally the point of the game, but you're too low IQ to realize it even as you type it out.

>>723883929 (OP)
>game tries to deliver a message
>but game also gives you the option to reject the message (shooting Marlon Brando at the mirror scene)
I shot Marlon then had Walker went back home. Great game.

the problem is that 97% of /v/ consists of autistic/sociopathic empathylets incapable of understanding other human beings.

>>723884950
Europe and the UN demanded the US go in because an African country was being an African country and local warlords were starving the populace. The US then made the same mistake as in Vietnam and treated it as a police action instead of a military action, underestimating what the local Muslim crime gangs saw the action as. This eventually culminated in an extended fire fight where 2 black hawks were shot down, 19 American soldiers were killed, and over 1,000 Somali Muslims who attacked the US soldiers. Final kill count was something like 117:1. The US still slunk away in defeat instead of doing what they should, which was leaving Mogadishu a crater, and telling the UN and Europe to handle their own dirty work next time they get a bleeding heart.

>>723884527
>people just didn't like being railroaded.
No, they absolutely do like it - when a game railroads them into heroics. That's kinda the point here.

>>723883929 (OP)
Gamers don't consume media other than video games, and even those they don't understand too well. To truly appreciate Spec Ops: The Line, you need to have some rudimentary grounding in existential philosophy.

>>723885392
The job of a soldier is literally to follow orders.

>>723888179
Soldiers are required to refuse unlawful orders.

>>723885491
>Europe and the UN demanded the US go in because an African country was being an African country and local warlords were starving the populace
Imagine being this gullible.

>>723888823
War is unlawful by it's very nature.

>>723883929 (OP)
>you need 120+ IQ to play a generic third person shooter

>>723883929 (OP)
>>723884341
I thought it was le good to phosphorize browns??

>>723883929 (OP)
Killing fuckers while blasting Deep Purple is fun. Not hard to understand

>>723888960
If you turn every page of Phenomenology of the Spirit, staring at each passing page as you come across it, until you reach the end, do you now understand it?

>>723885491
>invade a Muslim country and start killing people
>Why do they persecute me so?

i just shot and killed everything i encountered even the cia guy. it was decent

>>723889116
No one understands Hegel's scribbles.

>>723889202
>"Press the button"
>Decide to press the button
>"You pressed the button"
>wtf that wasn't my decision tho

Such a retarded example to get mad over. But do tell me, how did you handle the lynch mob?

Since when did making threads about this become such a fucking meme?

I like how when dropping white phosphorus even if you try your best to shoot as far away from the civvies as possible it still magically spreads over to them like spilled milk

>>723883929 (OP)
It's just not a particularly interesting or good adaptation of Heart of Darkness.

>>723883929 (OP)
>golems are so mad about the game they force the publisher to delist it
kek why are golems like this?

>>723884341
The game is about zogbots are bad, but journos, mareketing team and (you) are so low iq you took it as a metaphor for video games being evil, so yes, you are in fact that stupid.

Is there any way to play this game besides piracy?

>>723883929 (OP)
The problem is that the devs make a game about killing civillians and then have the audacity to blame the player for playing it, when they should be blaming themselves for creating it in the first place.
>Inb4, don't play it!
I haven't, and I won't, but I will still shit on the hypocritical devs, because they deserve it.

>>723890949
Since it came out newfag

>>723883929 (OP)
Spec ops the line makes schizos assmad the same way fallout new vegas causes schizo autists to troon out.
They cannot comprehend the idea of NOT self-inserting.
>>723885426
>do you finally face up to your own schizophrenia walker, you have until a count to 5 before you kill yourself
>NAH I AM DELUSIONMAXXING
going back home is for pussies, real chads gun down the rescue team.
>>723890947
Walker is so far gone by that point it literally doesn't matter.

>>723890275
>Plant a bomb near civs
>Give somebody else the detonator, don't tell him anything about the civs, and tell him to press the button to blow up the enemies who are actively shooting at him.
>He takes your word for it and presses it.
>Later claim it wasn't your fault because you made someone else press the button for you.
That line of thinking is about as jewish as thinking you can trick a god by sacrificing a chicken.

>Devs state in numerous interviews that the game was meant to be a satire on modern military shooters and wanted to chastise players who enjoyed these kinds of games
>SOTLfags keep pretending that the game was meant to be a meta commentary and that it was totally just about Walker going schizo with zero subtext

>>723883929 (OP)
>you need a gorillion IQ to understand the game
>the game is about a golem realizing he is the bad guy

>>723892037
>was
*wasn't

Game is based because people still feel personally judged by it and seethe like fuck all these years later. Now that's some effective art

No, the problem is the game itself is awfully mediocre in terms of gameplay. It feels like an interesting story slapped onto a very jank third person shooter without much polish. You could have told the same story in a much better way in first person with less emphasis on combat and more on exploration of the city, maybe even more interactions with the people trapped in dubai and whatnot.

>>723888179
James Blunt (yes that one) potentially avoided a war with Russia by refusing orders to engage Russian troops in Kosovo in the late 90's. Crazy shit

TRUUUUUUUUU

>>723892767
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>723891649
>Walker is so far gone it doesn't matter if you choose to disperse the crowd or gun them down
Such a /v/ take...

>>723891649
>They cannot comprehend the idea of NOT self-inserting.
And neither do this game's devs.
>>723893353
You lost, spergoid.

Spec Ops: The KINO

>>723893221
>>723893353
What are these excerpts from?

>give this game a negative review because it doesn't amount to much, has basic gameplay and plays into all the CoD tier shit that was common at the time
>Dude leaves me a message going on a schizo tangent about how I must have not read Heart of Darkness
>I own every Conrad book

uhh, anti self insert bros? you guys promised me that i'm not a bad person...

>>723895212
don't know about the second one but the first one and pic related are from Significant Zero: Heroes, Villains, and the Fight for Art and Soul in Video Games

>>723895329
Thank goodness. I know people are really retarded about this game, especially armchair atheist philosopher types who misinterpret everything, but i really do think the message intended by the devs is that the US military (and to some extent war pigs war in general) are just israeli zogbots, and that the game is a warning to not enlist, so i was hoping it wasnt one of the game's writers writing such garbage.

>>723888897
Is that a reference to that Polish dude?

>>723895329
I was curious and checked out other games he wrote for. And I found out he wrote for one of the Borderlands games. That sadly automatically disqualifies his opinion.

>>723884527
Being railroaded into horrible shit is the point. Guess you missed the point, genius.

I didn't kill the civilians and even if I did they deserved it.

>>723884341
>>PRESS THE BUTTON RIGHT NOW SOLDIER!
MY PLEASURE !

>>723883929 (OP)
KILL ANYTHING THAT MOVES !

>>723884597
You know me pretty well, sister.

>>723883929 (OP)
Ctrl+ f
DO YOU FEEL LIKE A HERO YET ?
1 result

>>723884341
Let me guess, you were just following orders

kill FUCKING confirmed

>>723893157
what the actual fuck, it's true

>>723883929 (OP)
>"I need to self-insert!!"
I thought it was great ride

>>723889141
I'm invading frieren's elf cunny

>need 120+ IQ to get this game
>no one ever talks about the gameplay

>>723883929 (OP)
It was boring, so I stopped playing.
really, the only people I know that liked it are nigges or Jews.
zero whites seem to have liked it.

>>723884341
Actually the game will bomb the civs at the end for you, no input required.

>>723883929 (OP)
Not really. I'm pretty stupid and I think I got the gist of it.

>>723902262
The gameplay is fine. Shooting feels good, the squad ai/commands are competent most of the time. There's decent weapon variety, and the sand gimmick can be kinda neat.

>>723890275
>>723899115
>>723884341
>>723884597
>>723884747
>The game specificies this is Walker's story, you are just a special guest
>Walker is bound to fuck up hence you dont get to choose if bombing civs or not
I know you'll say
>BUT DO YOU FEEL LIK-
Thats literally an in-game quote spoken by Konrad to Walker. For not following his orders toclesve Dunai ASAP
>B-But the devs sa-
You know what else the devs said?
>This is a videogame so why should you care
Git fuccked
LMAO

why does this get so many threads recently
did a youtuber make a video about it

>>723893157
>>723901632
>Blunt's commander who refused the NATO order was literary called Michael Jackson

>>723904130
>It voices it's pejeet opinion
>>The game specificies this is Walker's story, you are just a special guest

Then make a movie or write a book.
Games are played, if your too Indian to get that, go back to eating cow shit or what ever you do.

>>723893157
>>723901632
>Blunt's commander who refused the NATO order was literally called Michael Jackson

>>723884341
>>PRESS THE BUTTON RIGHT NOW SOLDIER!
>>"Uh.... can I not do that?"
>>NO
>>"Ok... guess I'll just press it then"
>>Civilians get epically roasted by white phospherous
Isn't that just how military operates? If anything it sounds realistic.

>>723883929 (OP)
I don't know why manchildren who play video games are so resistant to exploring the idea of being a bad person in media. They are having meltdowns over Undertale as well. "WHAT? LE GAME IS CALLING ME BAD!? NOOOO!!!!" I wonder if these people would have the same reactions if they tried reading something like Crime and Punishment. They just cannot accept that entertaining the idea of being evil, which a game reinforces by calling you out for doing evil things in the game, isn't the same as the game or devs calling you actually evil. It's all building a suspension of disbelief to enable you to explore that space.

>>723904791
>Then make a movie or write a book.
>Games are played
Do you like hit albeit dogshit game chrono trigger, by any chance?

>>723903443
This except its pimento olives. Some people will always have the pallete of a 5 year old

>>723905014
People play payday just fine and you shoot up civs all the time in that game.

>>723905063
I don't play Jrpgs, crpgs, excelrpg.
The only RPG I want in my game is used to kill tanknoobs.

I like shooting things and building things.
If I can do both, I'm happy.

>>723905274
Except Payday doesnt make or imply what you are doing is evil or wrong
Its le epic heist movies and power fantasy game with music to fit in

>>723883929 (OP)
I wanted more civilian murder desu

My IQ is only 115.... this is why I thought it was just a boring shitty brown & bloom cover shooter.....

>>723905274
Does the game treat the evil of your actions with actual appropriate weight, or is it just a no-weight romp like the GTA games, which exists for fun and not to offer some sort of psychological exploration of the deterioration of the human condition?

>>723902262
>>no one ever talks about the gameplay
It's very good,but it's still a 3 hour game

>>723905319
So do you like Half Life 2, The Last of Us or, god forbid me for asking
Any fucking cod or gears?

>>723904965
No it isn't because you can say no and actually not do that, you won't just be stuck there for the rest of your fucking life unlike in the game.
Not following orders has especially been common whenever your side starts losing and morale starts dropping.

>>723902262
The OST is fucking kino
Squad commands are nice and fun to use
The choices you do get give it some replayability
No real complaints about the actual gameplay itself, its a cover based shooter with amazing vistas.
If Spec Ops is a moviegame I dont see how people could shit on it while praising movie games in the past (Chrono Trigger, TLou, Gears)

>>723905703
>No it isn't because you can say no and actually be excuted by fiering squad or spend rest of the camping in a discipilinary confindment
Yeah nice choice retard

>>723905632
>Half Life 2
Finished. slow and boring.
>The Last of Us
Never played, looked gay.
>cod
Last I played was world at war, I liked it. everything after looked and sounded retarded.
>gears, gears of war?
No. never even seen a video of it. it always looked like it was trying to hard.

>>723905703
>No it isn't because you can say no and actually be excuted by fiering squad or spend rest of the camping in a disciplinary confinement
Yeah nice choice retard

>>723884341
This, the game is not deep at all it's just pseudo intellectuals trying to make it seem deeper than it really was even though there is no depth at all to it given that you can't pick an option not to do it that be like if billy coen from resident evil 0 decided oh yeah I guess my unit are gonna kill these villagers I guess I should too instead of not killing the villagers.

>>723885491
>Europe and the UN demanded the US go in because an African country was being an African country and local warlords were starving the populace.
Hook, line and sinker.
Lmao

>>723905991
Notice that the game *doesn't* do that, there is no cutscene where Walker and his squad go "Screw this, let's go back to where we came from" but instead it forces you to do le evil deed if you want to continue with the game.
That's why the preachy bullshit doesn't work.

>>723898340
LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE

>>723883929 (OP)
So can someone with 120+ IQ clearly and unequivocally explain the point the game is making to the unwashed masses?

>>723906560
War is hell, and even men with the best intentions can make mistakes and no longer live with themselves.

It's a pretty simple story, I don't know why midwits struggle with it.

13 years later and self-insertfags STILL buttblasted by this game lmao

>>723906783
Too focused on proving they didnt do anything EVIL

>>723906783
So the same point cowadooty, medal of honor and countless others were making for decades, while being better games mechanically?

>>723906821
You don't have to self insert to hate the pussy faggot protag. Literal tranny shit on par with SH2.

>>723906821
The game clearly addresses the player.

>>723907020
None of those games made the point well. Something like the AC-130 mission in cawadoody is a slightly interesting commentary, but the game still ends with hoo-rah and the bad guy getting killed by the good guys.

Spec Ops presents itself as yet another desert shooter but is actually a game about regret.

>>723907295
You literally die in a nuclear blast in the same game.

>>723907435
Everyone knows people die in war. Fewer people than ever are aware of the lasting effects on the survivors now we're a few generations out from WW2.

Imagine you read about this great new movie that is a must-watch. You go to a cinema, buy a ticket and start watching.
The movie is bad. And every few minutes, the actors stop, look into the camera and say "the movie is bad, you can see it's bad, why are you still watching?"
As you leave the theater, the sign "NO REFUNDS" flashes in big letter above the exit.

>>723907435
Same in Hotline Miami
Whats your point?

>>723907586
>game involves bad things happening
>this means the game is bad
Might be the dumbest take I've seen.

>>723907586
Yep, how I felt after playing Links Awakening and Chrono Trigger.
Atleast FF7 delivered

>>723884341
Fpbp. One of the worst most ham fisted games I've ever played. Completely 1 dimensional take on morality and war being bad. Only game I'm glad got removed from steam due to licensing issues.

>>723907020
Spec Ops does it better because it interrogates the player instead of presenting war as hell.

Basically, CoD and MoH operate within a framework that validates military intervention. You're the good guy with a gun solving problems through violence against a clear villain. Spec Ops flips this dynamic on it's head by using military shooters against you, it's not just showing war crimes but implicating (You) the player in them. Walker isnt saving anyone, he's pursuing a delusional fantasy of heroism that only causes more suffering.

>>723906223
They couldn't even be creative with it, like the good option leading to unintended bad consequences too. The game was made by someone with the mindset
>no I would never shoot another person even if they were going to rape my wife or kill my family
Yes people like this exist.

>>723907973
Pseudo intellectual faggotry. The game is shit and was written by a midwit.

>>723908116
And you didnt like it? Odd.

>>723908028
>They couldn't even be creative with it, like the good option leading to unintended bad consequences too
Wasnt there a dude that saved an enemy soldier in WW1 that turned out to be hitler?

>>723908398
>Bad consequences

>>723908116
Recommend some high IQ games, already beat La Mulana, Baba is You and Bionic Commando

>>723908557
Bad consequences here being people siding with jews and hitlers suicide

>>723907973
>it's not just showing war crimes but implicating (You) the player in them.
But that's retarded.
The player is not complicit in real war crimes and vidya war is just that, vidya.

>>723908607
Slay the Spire

>>723908939
>Game asks you why do you care
>Anon can only seethe

>>723909102
>game tries to preach to you how killing virtual people is bad then reminds you they are virtual

>>723909385
But enough about Undertale.
This is a Spec Ops thread

>/v/ shits on nu-GOW for telling it's players to become better men and that their Chuds for missing the style of the original trilogy
>Meanwhile /v/tards will suck off SOTL for saying you are responsible for a gorillian war crimes if like Call of Duty

>>723884341
fpbp the middle east war buck broke libs so hard that it made them think le browns dying is bad

>>723908939
You're right, which is why Spec Ops' fourth wall breaking approach is the weakest element of the game, not it's strongest. "You're bad for playing this" angle is shallow moralizing that confuses real ethics with artificial choices. No one is harmed by video game white phosphorus, players aren't morally culpable for scripted events in a game they paid for or pirated.

The difference though is that CoD can show war as hell while still being a recruitment tool, Spec Ops can't be.

>>723908398
Yes. Hitler was cleaning up a bridge or something and was caught unprepared, then let go.

But he tried deporting the jews with the haaavara agreement and fought against the Jewish Weimar republic, which included mass child prostitution. He was the good guy.

>>723883929 (OP)
the fucking original modern warfare trilogu is more morally complex than this shit

>>723885392
Yeah, except that shit doesn't translate well to a game, if you aren't given the choice to follow orders, retard. It clearly doesn't require 120+ iq if you managed to play it

>>723909735
The idea is to put you in Walker's shoes, the problem is midwits mistake an attempt at generating empathy with "the game is telling me I'm evil because I did what it told me to do!".

>>723911903
See >>723895329

>>723911903
It's ok you don't need to defend a midwit writer because war is bad.

>>723911903
I just think they do it in a way that kills immersion.

>>723911986
I really wonder why people don't criticize Nier in the same way they do this game. Both are fundamentally the same concept, is it just that midwits didn't understand what killing the shadowlord meant?

>>723912410
I can understand complaining about fourth wall breaks, but of all the places to put them, I think the loading screen is a fun choice.

Why does this game make trannies rage so much? This was absolutely not the case in the years after it came out, back then /v/ usually appreciated having a vidya version of Apocalypse Now. The answer is that trannies are mostly zoomers and younger, and they are sensitive about their childhood games (CoD and BF3) being made fun of.

>>723912774
It's a bad game. I don't know how you could make a 3rd person shooty game boring but they managed to do it. Even army of two was better.

>>723912774
>projection
YWNBAW

>>723913030
no u

>>723912774
>Why does this game make trannies rage so much?
It's literally the opposite with trannies seething about Call of Dutyb because it's Le ebin imperialist military industrial propaganda or whatever

>>723912774
>Why does this game make trannies rage so much?
It's literally the opposite with trannies seething about Call of Duty because it's Le ebin imperialist military industrial propaganda or whatever

>>723912774
It's not a very good adaptation of Heart of Darkness, however.

>>723883929 (OP)
>War is...le bad!
You don't need to be a genius to understand this

>>723913407
Far Cry 2 does a better job at being a Heart of Darkness adaptation because the game doesn't have to tell you how much of a bad person you are for shooting the fake video game people and it actually takes place in Africa

>>723885392
"I was just following orders" is a legitimate defence. Soldiers are meant to follow orders. Blame politicians, not soldiers

>>723883929 (OP)
at first you shit on the game for forcing you to bomb the civvies
then you thank the game for giving you an opportunity to kill sandniggers

>>723913368
You can't have it both ways. They are exactly the mainstream.

>>723884341
>"AAAAAAAAAAAAA PEOPLE ARE BEING MEAN TO MY CHARACTER THAT'S EXACTLY LIKE BEING MEAN TO ME BUT I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG WHY ARE THEY MEAN TO ME STOP IT STOP IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

>>723913752
You're right anon
I think he needs to become a better man

I don't mind people being fucking stupid, I just wish they were aware of it and wouldn't act like their opinions meant something

>>723913686
>I'm le based MAGA multipolarist and progressives are the real imperialists

>>723911673
>B-but I had no choice but to press on!
You dense motherfucker

>>723895329
>We're giving players the option
Then they found out that their (test) players didn't take the obviously bullshit choice, so they removed the player choice altogether but kept acting as if the players were still making a choice. Genius.

>>723885392
I didn't play the game, I watched a playthrough on YouTube.
Both me and the player playing the game had the exact same amount of agency in committing the war crime, since it's a scripted event.
Which one of us committed the war crime?

>>723909735
It's not "shallow moralising", it wants you to fucking think. If you think the game is making you feel bad, why do you continue? Why do you care what a game thinks of you? Why do you care about things that happen in a game? Why do you care about *this* game in particular but not when others have you commit essentially war crimes?

>>723914403
>Why do you care about *this* game in particular but not when others have you commit essentially war crimes?
Because very few other games are stupid enough to pretend they gave the player agency when they in fact didn't, and this stupidity is grating. Next question?

>>723914328
You're wrong and a moron and it's just as well that you watch other people play video games instead of playing them since you don't seem to understand the added value of actually doing something

>>723914403
Because it has a shallow ham fisted bullshit moral grandstanding that doesn't work. "Come and see" is a movie that perfectly encapsulates how bad war can be. You don't need to do a big brain "haha tricked you you piece of shit" to show war is bad.

This game is now about morally dubious situations or unintended consequences, it's a liberal arts college major sucking himself off about how he's better than you for knowing war is bad.

>>723914626
>actually doing something
Scripted event.

>>723914646
*is not about morally dubious

>>723914571
>this stupidity is grating
Yes, your stupidity is very grating. Amazing self-awareness in an otherwise utterly retarded post.
>>723914646
What even is your point? This movie exists therefore game bad?

Bombing virtual civilians doesn't make you a bad person but being as fucking dense as you lot should be punishable by a drawn-out painful death in a just world.

>>723914863
>no, YOU'RE stupid!!!11
lol

I've noticed the same people that make fun of Boomers getting up in arms about killing pedestrians in GTA piss and shit themselves over military shooters and seethe about how Timmy is going to sign an enlistment packet after playing one round of CoD

>>723907435
You and many others. You are a collateral there. In SOTL Walker is judged directly either by himself or the player. That makes it a lot more personal.

>>723883929 (OP)
when the fundamental message of a game is "you shouldn't have bought our game", you have made a shitty game.
the audience that SO:TL was marketed to was not the audience that bought it.
>"messaging" is also the lowest form of creative writing

>>723914863
>make a clear distinction between "war bad" executed properly and "war bad" executed by a midwit
>what's your point?

>>723915413
>You and many others. You are a collateral there
Yeah that's why people like that scene. Your a name on a list, a statistic. In the end everything you did was for naught and the world keeps on spinning. Meanwhile SOTLfags think three guys decimating an entire battalion is somehow super deep commentary on military shooters.
>Instead of shooting brown people it's Americans
>Wow so deep

>>723914918
You are. You don't know shit about games, you don't know shit about media, you don't know shit about philosophy, and the fact that you're cutting about thinking you're right about even a single thing at all is fundamental proof of the cosmic indifference to human follies like "justice". I hope you die.

>>723915732
You just said one is good because it's good.

>>723885392
No the problem was the game breaks the fourth wall and calls the 'player' out for it, not just the character. The developers have dialogue on loading screens specifically mentioning the player's "choices" being evil. So the only good choice is to not play the game.

>>723915940
You're not avoiding doing bad things by playing other games, you're just avoiding being made to think about doing them.

>>723915831
lol faggot having a melty when hit with the reality that his autism-induced reddit philosophy is plebian at best

>>723915940
>play as a character with guilt and PTSD
>"AAAAAAAAAA WHY IS THIS GAME SIMULATING ME HAVING GUILT AND PTSD I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG WAAAAH I DON'T GET IT WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS"

>>723916461
M8 this board is proudly plebeian and you're among the plebeiest. You're a genuine anti-intellectual who looks down on actually knowing things and despises thinking about things, and to be called "plebeian" by the likes of you is a compliment. Don't even act like you value any philosophy at all.

>Mmm sweaty don't you know that women are strong independent creatures that don't need no men and that we have to respect our BIPOC LGBTQ folx
>Wow this game has really shitty pandering
>SHOOTING PEOPLE IN VIDEO GAMES IS THE SAME AS COMMITTING WAR CRIMES IN REAL LIFE
>Wow what an intellectually deep and stimulating piece of media Bravo Kojimbo

>>723917791
Sweaty I'm going to need to see 5 kneels and black live matters chants for that one. War bad and its your fault.

>>723917513
>>723917513
did you have to breathe into a paper bag while you were coming up with this? kek
>despises thinking about things
oh, no! I despise the disabled, anon. just because you thought hard about it doesn't mean your second-rate grey matter produced anything of value
>anti-intellectual
you'd have to come up with something intellectual first
>to be called "plebeian" by the likes of you is a compliment
which is why you went on a seething melty rant about it, I'm sure.

>>723916690
>WHY IS THIS GAME SIMULATING ME HAVING GUILT
It didn't even do that, the writing was nowhere near good enough for me to feel anything but second hand shame.

>>723918761
>I despise the disabled
Of course you would, being a brutish simpleton. Yet from where I'm standing you're closer to being disabled than you are to me.

I genuinely hope you will come to understand that you deserve to die.

>>723883929 (OP)
>FEEL BAD FOR HAVING FUN!!!
y-yes sir whatever I need to do to look smart sir!

>>723917791
>"Brown and Bloom FPS games are propaganda for the military-industrial complex and by supporting them you support real war crimes"
>Nooo shut up shut up shut up you can't judge me because you didn't provide an option to spare these fictitious characters

Lol

>>723883929 (OP)
Leftist agitprop didn't go over my head, I just choose not to engage with it. I've never listened to your propaganda back when you were protesting the Iraq war and I don't intend to listen to your anti interventionist propaganda now. Your ideas were successful poison which made the world actually worse today, but there's nothing saying that I have to respect what you did or call it art.

>>723883929 (OP)
I don't feel bad for launching white phosphorous at civilians, in fact there should have been more opportunities to do so.

>>723919020
>Yet from where I'm standing you're closer to being disabled than you are to me.
>I genuinely hope you will come to understand that you deserve to die.
what? you think the disabled deserve to die? that's not very egalitarian of you, bigot.

>>723919995
The genuinely disabled have an excuse, but you are worse, in a way. Rejecting the faculty of reason altogether makes you a repulsive mockery of humanity.

>>723920569
>Rejecting the faculty of reason altogether makes you a repulsive mockery of humanity
I'm glad you finally understand your position. knowing one's self really is a liberating feeling, isn't it?
alas, you are still held back by your fedora being a repulsive mockery of fashion-sense.
it's unfittingly "plebeian" for a man of your status, o supreme dictator Julius

>>723921080
Damn, stole my comeback *and* you're now pretending I was the one to bring up plebeians? Understandable; if I were you, I'd want to emulate me too. Turn on your monitor, that fedora is clearly your own reflection.

>>723920569
>>723921080
sorry but that's about all I got, anon. either way this was great tho.
doing the dishes is way less pain in the ass when you can take a break for shit-talk. I feel lighter. really gets the poison out y'know? I'd repay you with a handy if I could. the rest of today is going to great.

>>723883929 (OP)
Why did the devs make a game that has civilians die, even without the player's input? Sensing a bit of hypocrisy here.

>>723921501
>sorry but that's about all I got
Yeah, figures.

>>723906783
>can make mistakes
The game fails to show that, because you can't make mistakes. There is only one outcome. You can actively do the right thing and the game will just refuse to progress.