Thread 723887690

This thing just fried my Brook PS2 adapter, what the fuck /v/ you told me it was peak

>>723887690 (OP)
you're supposed to use an adapter to plug your DS2 to your PC, not the other way around retard

>>723887690 (OP)
>you told me it was peak
Chinese marketers told you it was peak

>>723887690 (OP)
>Pro model
I told you it was shit

>>723888101
oops i meant to post the non pro

For me, it's the GameSaar Tegenaria Lite.

Got the controller a while back and it's pretty good, the sticks need to be re calibrated with the built-in re calibration but other than that it's neato. D-Pad actually feels nice which is a rarity in modern controllers, probably better than an actual Saturn pad for Cotton 2.
>>723888101
I heard the standard version has more input lag, is that true? The pro feels really snappy on my NS2 and Deck, but other than that it doesn't really have anything over the standard version besides meme rumble.

WHERE IS IT

>6 face buttons
>2 joysticks in a symmetrical layout
>4 shoulder buttons
>non-shit dpad
No controller has all of these options but it would be the perfect controller.

>>723888790
other way around

>>723888790
Standard's among the lowest input lag controllers on the market, even over Bluetooth. Pro's as unresponsive as everything else Gulikit made before it.

>>723887690 (OP)
Anyone got the gulikit es pro?
I kinda wanted to try it as a no frills controller.

>>723888956
6 face buttons is a meme desu, the 4 button diamond layout is more ergonomic. Back buttons are a better place to put more buttons at.

>>723889067
>>723889097
My bad, thanks for the info

>>723889252
Shoulder and back buttons for 6-button fighting games are annoying to deal with.

>>723889245
besides the incident i mentioned in the OP, the elves 2 is pretty damn good, i think the ES pro is just the same controller in a different shell so it's prob good, but dont forget that its chinkshit and that their QA is what it is

>>723889372
Literally using 6 buttons for fighting games was never that great. You're better off using the usual pad layout but putting shortcuts on the extra buttons.

>>723888956
>2 joysticks in a symmetrical layout
There aren't that many games where you control 2 characters and any game where one analog stick is a throttle would be better with an actual throttle.
You don't need 2 analog sticks and even if you wanted them, the second analog stick doesn't need to be full-size to fulfill its function.
>Non-shit D-pad
D-pads are almost entirely personal preference and are one of the cheapest and most neglected parts of the controller. You're statistically never getting a good d-pad on a good controller unless you gaslight yourself into thinking that it's good.
>>723889252
Back buttons are a meme for handheld controllers that are trying to do more than they're really capable of without abandoning the surface level appearance of an Xbox or Dualshock controller that the marketing loves so much. More face buttons help in a game designed for having fun.

Looking for a controller with TMR/Hall Effect sticks with the clicky d-pad found on the Xbox Series X controller. PlayStation layout would be ideal but it's not a deal breaker.

>>723890751
Vader pro

>>723889245
It's perfect. I just wish it supported AA batteries.

What's the "approximate for retro gaming but I don't actually want to commit to getting a controller for every system" controller
Still 8bitdo pro?

>>723891650
>approximate for retro gaming but I don't actually want to commit to getting a controller for every system
All modern controllers are fine then.

What controller has the most accurate, fighting game appropriate d-pad that isn't a fighting game specific controller like a Hori? I want something I can use for everything but with a great dpad.

>>723888696
Ok how good is this? Saw one going for $7 online.

this looks retarded
what's all the praise about?

for me it's picrel
but i want a cheap backup i can use when the inevitable stick drift kicks in

>>723894343
Trackpads. Let's you bring genres such as RTS into the living room rather than being stuck at a desk.

>>723894343
I literally just use it as a handheld mouse while sitting on the couch.

>>723894152
It's ridiculously good value basically. Temu dualshock 4, hall effect sticks, decent dpad, back buttons. But it's wired.

>>723892416
>good
>dpad
Pick one (1). Really though you should give up on this. There is no perfect controller. Get a basic controller for games that need it and a dedicates hitbox/arcade stick for fighters.
>bbbut I'm a pad player
Ok niggergoy enjoy Tekken 8

>>723888883
Gaben is busy pushing out a MASSIVE STEAMY SHITLOG right now. It'll release when he's done. Trust the plan.

>>723894343
It's one of those things you have to actually try yourself to understand. Before that, it makes no sense, afterwards, you'll hate yourself because you can't use anything else anymore.

>>723894343
I beat Sekiro with this

>>723889252
What if I want six face buttons AND back buttons

>>723894502
I like the ergonomics, but I hate that its price is inflated by crap like mandatory microphone, haptic feedback etc while lacking hall effect sensors for the sticks and triggers

>>723894502
https://youtu.be/N0TNttlVywE?t=13
Same shit happened to my DualSense after a few years.

>>723892416
>What controller has the most accurate, fighting game appropriate d-pad that isn't a fighting game specific controller like a Hori?
It's a tie between the Wolverine V3 and the Vader 4 right now, you're not gonna get anything better than those.

>>723896581
The ds4 cost 18 bucks to manufacture. Dss can't be that much higher, probably like 30 max. The only reason it costs so much is because of markup. Sony could comfortably drop it to 50 bucks without cutting anything.

>>723887690 (OP)
>only the pro version has the Saturn colors
Gay. What makes it "pro" anyhow? Besides the steeper price

>series x controller ergonomics
>hall effect/tmr sticks
>at least 2 extra back buttons
>decent d pad
>not gay rubber coating
Does it exist? I tried 8bitdo and they feel pretty good for the price but they're too small. Pic related is one of the most comfy controllers I've ever used. Thankfully no stick drift yet.

>>723899592
How much would Microsoft charge for a hall effect controller if they hadn't thrown xbox in the trash?

>>723887690 (OP)
I use gamesaar g7 se

>>723898576
macros and gyro for xinput or some shit, not worth it, especially when it has a lower polling rate

>>723899806
At least $150 and I would probably buy it

>>723894343
>what's all the praise about?
Some people have odd tastes and love it. Chances are you're not going to like it as much as these people do, there's a reason why they had to put it on clearance and even then it refused to sell.

>>723900902
It went on clearance because of a patent troll, retard

>>723900985
That makes no sense.

>>723894343
The trackpads are cool but the 'eck does it better (though I prefer asymmetrical layouts). Also it feels kinda cheap. I bought one on ebay but rarely use it. Hopefully they'll release another one soon and keep the dual stage triggers

>>723888956
>non-shit dpad
no controller has this option becauae dpads are inherently shit and i'm tired as fuck of this retarded meme
it should be 4 identical individual face buttons on each side, dpadshit should've gone to the grave with its inventor, yokoi, back in the 90s

>>723901174
You are a actual retard. Valve got sued for several million dollars because the back paddles fell under a patent and then they discontinued the controller and sold the remaining supply in a fire sale. Do literally 2 seconds of research you dumb fuck

>>723894343
>this looks retarded
because it is
>what's all the praise about?
retards being retarded, as usual

>>723901520
Yeah no, I don't know why you'd believe such a retarded and nonsensical explanation. You don't have to massively discount something because of a lawsuit, that's not how it works.

>>723899592
Flydigi's entire controller lineup
BigBig Won Rainbow 3
maybe GameSir Nova 2 Lite, I suspect it's a bit smaller like the Cyclone 2 but that'd still be close

>>723901767
You are actually fucking retarded dude.

finally the thread i was looking for. im looking to get a new controller with the xbox control scheme. been using the ds4 for years now so i would like something similar. anyone have the GuliKit KK3 MAX? how good is it? I hear that the hardware is excellent but the software side is utter dogshit

>>723901436
Maybe I'm fucking weird, but the only dpads I've been able to handle have been the sunken playstation dpads.All the other raised ones just feel fucking wrong.

>>723887690 (OP)
>Microsoft still refuses to add gyro to their controllers
I really don't get it.

>>723901936
I really don't think you know anything about lawsuits or anything related to copyright.

i like the nintendo style cross dpads though

>>723901926
>Flydigi
The Apex 5 sounds cool on paper. Has anyone tried it?

>>723902020
sony's approach is almost a step in the right direction, but the dpad is still one whole slab underneath the faceplate, and it's not uniform with the face buttons anyway
they could have easily just done it right from the beginning, but for some reason they were too cowardly to go through with it despite being de facto market leader and thus the one in the best position to make this change for the betterment of gamemanity, and for this fault that they bear, i will always hate them

>>723888956
The Victrix BFG and the Hori Octa Pro are the only things that come close to that.

>>723903152
I'd recommend going Vader if you want premium, Direwolf if you want budget, and ignoring their Apex lineup. It's the overpriced beta test model essentially, the upcoming Vader 5 and Direwolf 4 are adopting the paddles Apex 5 introduced, with Vader 5 also having two extra face buttons.

>>723894343
Honestly it has a lot of great features. Gyro, back paddle buttons, surprisingly intuitive ergonomics, track pads have niche utility over sticks, triggers are awesome, haptics are awesome, programmable controls through Steam to run kb+m only games or fully customize to your liking. One and only gripe is that it needs a 2nd stick, I dont think the track pad can fully replace one. I wish there was actually a reason to use controllers over kb+m outside of fighting games so I could actually get some use out of mine, I got it full price on release and it's sadly mostly collected dust.

>>723902038
I guess it's because ps3 already had gyro (I think) before wii waggle really took off and stained public perception of gyro for the next decade+, so they were able to fly under the radar with it. Meanwhile, xbox didn't have gyro and adding it in would basically be brand suicide.

>>723899592
ES Pro, but it doesn't have extra buttons.

>>723903529
the fighting commander octa isn't good in my experience

How accurate are these things to an original GC pad? I don't feel like shelling out 70 bucks + subscription for the Switch 2 one.

>>723894503
>>723901267
>>723904279
>Trackpads
playing RTS with a laptop trackpad wannabe instead of a mouse sounds like pure retardation, then again you fags are retards so right on cue i guess...

>>723904982
What's the point of getting a GC controller, other than the octagonal gate? I still have my old controller and I never use it.

What's a good controller for emulating N64 games?

I've been trying to find a regular controller with a D-Pad, Analog stick, six face buttons and four shoulder buttons but I'm not having much luck.

>>723905085
I don't wanna play Kirby Air Ride with a PS5 controller

>>723905398
8bitdo n64 controller

>>723904269
The Vader 4 is tempting but why do all these chink controllers have to look so gay and overdesigned?

>>723894343
I think valve looked at the Wii-mote controller and thought they could try something different with how controllers usually are and decided to give it a go.
I respect Valve for trying something different.

>>723894152

It's a hunk of shit. Didn't work at all on Switch 2 and wouldn't register in gamesaar's shitty management software either. If you're just using it for plug and play on PC it's probably fine though.

Are there any third party alternatives to the Wiimote for the specific purpose of emulation?

>>723887690 (OP)
This seemed like the perfect controller to me but I got it and the dpad sucks shit despite how it looks.

>>723888956
Sorry, this is the best I can do.

>>723894343
The right trackpad is miles better than having a right stick once you get used to it

>>723907734
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/xbox-adaptive-joystick

>>723887690 (OP)
So this is basically what Sega would have most likely evolved the Saturn pad into if they stayed in the game and kept its design? That is how it looks to me.

>>723899592
This was pretty much it before they discontinued it. I still have mine and love it. The only "downside" was that it was wired. The only thing I dislike about it is the gay lights, but you can turn that off thankfully.

oldfag here. Anything with a classic Nintendo style dpad (the one thats just a plus) and is in the primary position?

>>723908449
The aesthetics on this controller is top notch. It would look better without the 20 though.

>>723908352
I wouldnt be surprised if its because the pcb is so far from the d-pad, because of the stick mechanisms needing the extra space.
I modded saturn d-pad into xbox 360 and had to put rods under the d-pad to reach the pcb, but it kept the pivot at the top at least, and still feels better than standard xbox.

>>723888883
They're saving it for the deck tv console

>>723910034
The model you see in that pic leaked in a SteamVR update, so it's probably going to be released packed in with or at the same time as Steam Frame (Valves next VR headset), which is probably pretty soon. At least an announcement this year seems practically guaranteed.

Me? Dualshock3.
You don't need more.

>>723899592
Check gamesaar, scuf or pdp

where the FUCK is the Gullikit TT Max? they said october but it's been radio silence

i play on pc and have a dualsense, yesterday i bought an xbsex controller for 30 bucks, it looks brand new, did i mess up? i got it because i'm hoping it disconnects less and doesn't have as many compatibility issues, plus i can always replace the batteries and if they last the same compared to a 360 controller then you can play for around 1-2 weeks with a full charge

>>723911485
it was october
now it isn't
please understand

>>723908718
Not exactly what I meant, I want something that has an IR pointer. Gyro simulation ain't the same

>>723911087
You kind of do since they're getting pretty hard to find

>>723912826
There's this thing most people have with built in IR pointers. The idea is that you slide it on the desk to move a collection of pixels on your PC screen. In fact, you might even have one on your desk right now.

>>723913621
A phone? A remote?

Is the Gamesaar Cyclone 2 the best PC controller for about $60? Everything else seems to have more input delay, worse QC, or fewer features.

>>723913836
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse

>>723913965
you blew it

>>723904982
Raphnet adapter. I have one for my n64 controller and its great.

>>723905398
>>723915279

>>723894152
Only downside is if you don't want a loose dpad. Another one is if you ahve to have a wireless controller.

>dualshock 3 controllers aren't reading correctly for PCSX2
>don't got a dualshock 2 lying around proper for my raphnet adapter that doesn't read pressure sensitive buttons anyway
fuck. i got my eye on the gamesir cyclone 2 and tengenaria, but i legit have jack and shit for trying to get RPCS3/PCSX2 pressure buttons

let's talk about non-standard controllers, like racing wheels, flight sticks and guitars

>>723916869
For MGS, couldn't you just rebind to something like the the Xbox 360 version of MGS4 controls?

>>723917209
in a general sense probably, though i can imagine that it might be a little finicky since you can't just magically create the difference between the pressure inputs with a simple rebinding without modifiers.
i was aiming more for trying out the SOCOM games only to find out that i literally cannot crouch without pressure, which kind of royally fucks stealthy work from 2 onwards apparently

>>723913931
that or the vader 4, might be more expensive.

>>723905085
>What's the point of getting a GC controller
I like using accurate controllers when I emulate consoles

>>723912756
>likely to be released in november
it's over. I want to replace my 8bitdo ultimate v1 so bad bros, it's not fair.

>>723908449
As someone who bought the older see-through green Duke controllers just for the nostalgia of it, I wish it was usb c. I've had nothing but problems with every other xbox controller with mirco usb. But +100 $CAD for the new 20th anniversary with no wireless is kind of crazy, the xbox elite 2 controller is roughly the same price and you get wireless and 4 underside buttons traded for 2 less face buttons and the kind of useless screen on the xbox button.

>>723913931
The Gamesaar Cyclone 2 looks like good deal.

>>723894502
Hey buy a new one on Amazon and swap and return

>>723913931
It launched at $50 and even with tariffs is usually listed at $40 these days
but yeah, the only real flaws are higher stick latency on 2.4ghz (wired and Bluetooth are fine) and only 2 extra buttons, doubling the budget still just gets you sidegrades with different tradeoffs

>>723888696
>>723894910
>>723916660
i want exact this model, but wireless. fug.

So what's a good third party controller for PS5 that doesn't require me getting a Brook?

so do I get this thing or wait for the new Vader?

>>723923926
doesn't exist
the "good" 3rd parties with that criteria are just $200-300 modded Dualsenses

>>723925319
I hate first party chicanery of enforced exclusive connection protocols so that third parties don't "cheat" and they can price gouge consumers into their overpriced bullshit. Really just gonna have to get a Brook converter and a wireless controller just for their retarded bullshit, because I don't want to wear down the Dualsense on the family PS5 to shit.

reminder that if the controller doesn't support rechargeable double aa's then it's ewaste, that leaves us with the xbox series controller and 8bitdo pro 2
reminder that if the controller doesn't have a chatpad then it's shit for pc use, that leaves us with the xbox series controller
don't buy ewaste anons

>>723917037
the SG was the Stradivarius of plastic piece of shit guitar controllers. That and the wii les paul

>>723925149
bump

>>723925149
Wait for Vader if you want more buttons
I'd imagine Rainbow will be similar or better in other categories

>>723910034
What would be the point of a Deck anything if it's not a handheld? It would just be a cheap/weak/bad compact gaming PC

>>723926083
nothing's e-waste if you have a soldering iron.

I only use wired though so I don't have this problem.