Thread 723895275

>does nothing
>wins

It's not fair, he clearly made me shoot myself in the foot!

He also made me make my own handheld console that flopped

>loses
>claim victory

There's winning and then there's "winning".

>>723895630
>revenue
now what about profit?

>>723895630
Why is apple there

>>723895667
There's different types of winning.
Nintendo's is self-contained.
Valve tricked an entire younger generation into thinking PC = Steam, when it's just a 3rd party store. That incredibly successful marketing, viral or otherwise.

>>723895275 (OP)
>does nothing
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>723895708
Goalpost moving already

>>723895812
>Valve tricked an entire younger generation into thinking PC = Steam
Delusional, kids play on roblox and has more players than every game on steam combined

Steamies are aging millennial base

>>723895630
oh my gawd they *only* make seven *billion* in revenue while having a higher actual profit margin than any of these companies but nintendo, the company they explicitly design their approach around

it's almost like western businesses are fucking retarded and think money in = money out as a flat proportion and that is literally never how it's worked ever

>>723895858
i don't think you know what that means.

>>723895630
uhh, epic sisters? i thought steam was a monopoly...

actual winner
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4OZy6ukXfO8

>>723895940
Man you ESLs are retarded.

>>723895940
Well that's definitely some Monkey's Paw shit at play

>>723895630
It's kind of funny to look at that graph when only one of those companies is privately owned and does not have a legal duty to churn out as much profit as possible.

>>723895972
>hehe i spent $1 to make $10 so my profit margins are better than that company that spent $5 million to make $40 million
Steamies are like this

>>723895275 (OP)
if valve does nothing then everyone else does less than nothing
much less

>>723896181
>hehe i'm deliberately being stupid and pretending sony doesn't waste hundreds of millions of dollars to the point insomniac is asking where all of that fucking money is even going during spider-man 2's development and why they aren't using fractions of that game's cost to develop four or five games instead

>>723896146
>and does not have a legal duty to churn out as much profit as possible.
Yet somehow produces the LEAST ammount of games and every new game they make are free2play skinner box games while other companies make single player games

Turns out the privately owned one is the worst for actual games!

>>723896215
that's not entirely true.
the sole reason we have even a halfway competent support system with Steam (which still has a lot of problems) is because other digital storefronts were doing it way better and sort of forced Valve to step it up. some people don't remember just how bad it used to be compared to now.
competition, even if very lopsided, is good.

>>723896323
this is just pretending valve is only a game studio and not, you know, one of the biggest global digital infrastructures around with high-quality distribution in basically every world territory

they do loads of behind-the-scenes work and mostly make games "whenever they feel like it" or when illustrating a gimmick for a piece of hardware, and that's how they should keep doing it, really

>>723896261
>NOOOO YOU CANT SPEND YOUR MONEY THAT WAY, YOU HAVE TO WASTE IT ON A YACHT COLLECTION LIKE GABE
lol sony outputs more games than steam but for some reason you are ok with them doing nothing

>>723896323
I think I'd rather have nothing than Concord.
Oh wait, I don't have a choice.

>>723896438
>not making games is how they should keep doing it, really
The absolute state of this board

why is there a malding snoy itt?
does he know that no one gives a fuck about snoy's dei movie games?

>>723896765
>no one gives a fuck about snoy's dei movie games?

Gaben has always been a tech guy first, gamer second. Valve reflects this. HL1-2 were essentially groundbreaking tech demos at the time. Gaben eventually moved on to other things.
I don't blame him for abandoning game development, it's a tough market and most released games since the 90s are financial flops.

>>723895858
He is right althoughbeit.

>>723895708
>now what about profit?
Most advanced first year business student.

>>723896891
I feel bad for the Half-Life writer who abandoned Valve after a long time when it became obvious they were abandoning games and it was never coming back

He wrote a "totally not half-life" short story jsut to provide closure for Half-Life fans.

>>723895979
>>723897013
Don't argue with jeets.

Win at what?

>>723895275 (OP)
>nothing
having thousand of voluntary or involuntary shills flooding the internet his product is the opposite of nothing

>>723895940
>Steam hit a record peak last week
>ummm ackshaully it's dying!!
If you want to see a real dying game, look at Fortnite. That shit gets less players than Counter-Strike 2 nowadays.

>>723897753
Yeah it only has nearly a MILLION players.

>>723896530
yeah man it's not enough that they run the globe's largest games distributor and being a private company they can take pot-shots at dumb passion projects like the best price/performance gaming laptop on the planet with a controller built in

where's half-life 3!!!!!!! the absolute state!!!!!!

>>723897954
nta, but it'd be like cheering on Wal-Mart. They're not a game dev anymore, who the fuck cares that the store is doign well or not.

>>723896392
Origin and Epic game store were really putting valve's steam's balls into a vise in 2007, im so glad they were there for steams evolution

>>723896392
The fact this nimrod is trying to tell me with a straight face that origin or uplay have ever done anything better than steam is obscene.

>>723896530
YES, I SHOULD BE PLAYING PORTAL 17 BY NOW (80DOLLAR USD) AND I SHOULD BE HAPPY

>>723898215
nta but origin legit did Support far better than Steam back in the day at the start of its life. It's a huge reason why Steam support/refunds are what they are today.

>>723897807
>Losing 93% of your playerbase is actually good!
>Losing the next generation of gamers to your direct competitor is actually good!
Your shit game is crumbling and the 500th Marvel collab can't save it any more, Timmy.

>>723895858
Post these goal nuts in your mouth

>>723896841
>bunch of numbers of units shipped to stores
No one i know owns a gaystation, but then again, i'm scandinavian and not mexican.

>>723895858
>moves the goalposts in the first place
>"hey, no moving the goalposts from now on!"

>>723895275 (OP)
GABEN WATCH OUT BEHIND YOU

>>723895630
>Your not a successful company if you don't fleece your customer base out of every single cent
Are you jewish perchance?

>>723895409
Hilariously for as much as you could say Valve does, it honestly might actually come down to them not being malignant assholes that are actively shitbags to the people that give them money.

>>723898306
I wasn't aware that origin led steam forcing the issue with fags in austrailia because LITERALLY EVERY PUBLISHER said they wanted to pull all their shit of the store if it became easy or reasonable to get refunds for shitware on steam.

>>723895275 (OP)
he seems to be getting fucked more than ever right now though

>>723895630
Mega Steamies on full damage control

>>723896454
>lol sony outputs more games than steam
HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHH

does nothing
except all the things they did
short version:
https://valvetruth.blogspot.com/2023/04/after-watching-platform-of-steam-and.html

>>723895630
So Im rooting for the underdog?
Based billion dollar indie Valve

>>723898058
>who the fuck cares that the store is doign well or not.
A lot of people do actually. Sorry that you're a low iq consoleshitter

>>723895630
>all the others are publicly available because they're public companies
>steam is literal guesswork because it's private
you literally have no clue how much steam makes

Whats with fags and jeets seething at Valve recently? Are they releasing a new update or system?

>>723900990
>steam cuck constantly brags about steam "winning" via making the most money
>turns out they don't
>"erm who cares about money actually, it proves they're not jews!"
pathetic levels of backpedalling

>>723902514
I'm pretty sure it's one or two autists who cycle through different things to cry about and are back on focusing on Valve until the next thing to obsess over comes around.

>not beholden to shareholders/stockholders
>able to do nothing and stay the course making a safe and comfortable profit every year
>wins
that's the thing I don't understand. Sure if you're selling your company obviously the stock options are great because you can just cash out. But if you're a private company, what benefit does it give you? I just don't understand, it's never worked out for any game company that I can see. Even fucking EA is now private.

>>723903723
The main benefit is increased cash flow from stocks but have to deal with drooling retards called investors.
Unless you just want to cash out or need the cash flow it's not that worthwhile.

>>723895275 (OP)
More like
>always does better than the competition
Dont forget EGS couldnt even add a cart
>>723895630
>>game company

>>723895275 (OP)
I still dont get why billionaires that invest 98% of their capital to create productivity and services are evil well the guy with a yacht addiction is hecking wholesome.

>>723895630
>300 employees vs 10s of thousands

>>723895630
I dont think this is real, or should I say they cherry picked what revenue us? In no universe is google and Microsoft higher than both valve or apple.

>>723904821
Because the guy with the yacht isn't trying to fleece everything from me through making addiction algorithms, lobbying the government for more fucked up business practice, and degrading my consumer rights as a citizen.
>billionaires that invest 98% of their capital to create productivity
And the guy with the yachts isn't doing any of these things? Are you retarded?

>>723904821
To be fair Gabe actually uses his yachts for stuff like marine research and at sea hospial so it's not the usual vanity that rich people have with yachts.

>>723905036
No I am just a Bizrailie millionaire with an econ degree well you are some uneducated seething poorfag upset he will never breed.
I can sympathize with the first sentence but your low IQ knee jerk reaction finish kind of ruins it. This is why women wont fuck you, fag. Also yes, most billionaires spend a fraction of a fraction of their wealth unlike Gabe. Thats mathematically shown and you can easily Google it.

>>723905339
I respect the fuck out of that but thats 1 of his 6 yachts.

>>723905450
>Schizophrenic rambling
K thanks.

>>723895275 (OP)
Why saaaaars shill this fatfuck?

>>723905557
>Anything I dont like is fake
Am I wrong, are you not a seething poorfag incel? LOL!

>>723905532
I know 1 is the hospital and like 2 or 3 for research use.
The others who the fuck knows if they do anything useful but better then nothing I suppose.

>>723905731
Please seek help schizo

>>723905734
Rocinante (78.5m): Newell's first acquisition, formerly named Odyssey. It is often accompanied by a support vessel and was spotted in California during Summer Game Fest 2025.
Draak (91.5m): Previously named Tranquility and Equanimity, this Oceanco superyacht was seized during a money-laundering operation and later acquired by Newell.
Game Changer (72.15m): A Damen Yachting support vessel that travels with the main yacht.
Leviathan (111m): A new-build superyacht from Oceanco, launched in August 2025. It began sea trials in October 2025.
RV Dagon (68.2m): A research platform built by Tacoma Boat Building, which operates as a full-ocean-depth surface platform.
RV Hydra (55.75m): An Auroux vessel designed for coastal studies.

I wonder what a super luxury Drugdealer yacht is like.

>>723905878
You didnt snswer the question. Are you not a seething poorfag incel? Yes or no.

>>723905668
ESL retard

>>723906150
Cope steamie

>>723906038
>I wonder what a super luxury Drugdealer yacht is like.
I bet the parties are nuts and a few bodies get thrown overboard every night

>>723902357
>you literally have no clue how much steam makes
Valve was asked for that information and they provided it.

>>723906184
>steamie
Lol of course it's the jeet.

>>723895275 (OP)
He is scuba diving.

>>723895667
If I had to bet on the endgame, its that Nintendo buys steam. Not that it will happen any time soon.
>>723906150
Who simps this hard?

>>723906236
Lucky underage teenage whores, getting to be molested by based Gaben before being thrown over.

>>723906038
Gabe recently bought a Dutch luxury yacht shipyard.

>>723895275 (OP)
That's because he
>did something early on
>can now reap the rewards
And to be fair they do update Steam and do things like Steam Decks. Some shit is stupid like the points store, but it's more than the competition.

sometimes the only winning move is not to play

>>723901151
Yeah, and when they do try shit people usually tend to shut it down.

>>723902514
>recently
It's been a few of years. The posts during the Steam, Epic, and Apple lawsuit had threads posted every other day.

>>723906038
For me, it's the Pelorus

>>723907368
Meh, in Europe its bond holder primacy and its much worse.
If you want to kill your landlord Laos will take anybody.

Steam is effectively a monopoly and it won't be long until the US Supreme Court fixes it. Also Microsoft is going to buy Steam soon, so that last bit doesn't really matter.

>>723895630
I can see your nose from here

>>723908356
>Also Microsoft is going to buy Steam soon, so that last bit doesn't really matter.
Fuckin rip

>>723901929
There's literally no competition. What's there to do damage control on?

>>723908356
>is effectively a monopoly and it won't be long until the US Supreme Court fixes it.

>>723908356
>Also Microsoft is going to buy Steam soon
They're going to buy up all that public stock available and do a hostile takeover.

>>723908716
Now you know why Gabe spends his days sitting out in international waters.
>inb4 pirates

>>723909379
It would be 100% kino if Gabe bought a battleship.

>>723908356
Please be do buying the Steam sir.

>>723902032
not him but do name me the last time valve released a good game
Updates like CS2 dont count

>>723908356
So true xister minaj

>>723895630
>google
>game companie

Stadia bros, I thought we lost.