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Anonymous No.723932303 [Report] >>723932629 >>723933661 >>723933684 >>723934071 >>723935345 >>723937796 >>723937816 >>723938152 >>723938323 >>723939034 >>723939070 >>723939195 >>723940241 >>723942213 >>723943828 >>723944625 >>723945507 >>723946138 >>723946243 >>723946460 >>723946653 >>723947437 >>723952478 >>723952827 >>723958190
Was fast movement in FPS games a mistake?
Anonymous No.723932349 [Report]
yeah these fucking zoomers with their bhopping and rocket jumping in quake live fucking fast movement is for retards
Anonymous No.723932414 [Report] >>723932519
Movement has always been part of good competitive shooters. Quake and UT were a blast to play, and later on we got SHAZBOT.
Anonymous No.723932443 [Report] >>723932580 >>723933523 >>723935269 >>723945931
CS2 already perfected the FPS formula. Everyone knows there is no reason to keep trying.
Anonymous No.723932479 [Report]
No, but the animations attached to it in games like CoD are really fucking gay and annoying. In Quake it was fine because it just meant your enemy was moving very quickly, in CoD they're spazzing out, flying in random directions and doing scout crazy legs. It just looks retarded.
Anonymous No.723932519 [Report] >>723933064
>>723932414
Quake movement required some degree of skill instead of just spamming the crouch button to slide around
Anonymous No.723932580 [Report] >>723932894 >>723932897 >>723933040 >>723945750 >>723946524
>>723932443
Who the fuck actually likes CS besides Russians and aimbots?
Anonymous No.723932629 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
Fast movement is fine
Unbelievable movement is not
Diving into butt wiggles to increase your velocity is retarded.
Instant snap up should go away
That puts fancy movement as your last resort rather than standard which makes positioning much more important
Anonymous No.723932894 [Report] >>723944671 >>723946524 >>723947360
>>723932580
Polish people. Yes, we exist.
Anonymous No.723932897 [Report] >>723946524
>>723932580
Indians.
Anonymous No.723933040 [Report]
>>723932580
it's a third-world-exclusive title, same with league and roblox
Anonymous No.723933064 [Report]
>>723932519
>Quake movement required some degree of skill instead of just spamming the crouch button to slide aro-
Anonymous No.723933523 [Report] >>723958556
>>723932443
how much does the gambling keep CS afloat?
Anonymous No.723933661 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
There will always be a place for sims that replicate "real" feeling as much as possible, but there is a reason why arcade-style games have thrived and will continue to forever. People don't care about what is real, but what feels good. And it feels good to zoom around like a superhuman.
Anonymous No.723933684 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
fast movement used to have a cost like health
if everyone can bum slide there's no point doing anything else
Anonymous No.723934071 [Report] >>723934356 >>723935118 >>723935536 >>723943828 >>723947537
>>723932303 (OP)
>Modern movement is too fast
>We need classic movement
>No not that classic, that's too fast, use the classic from these two specific games in the middle ages of FPS games
Anonymous No.723934184 [Report]
zoomer movement is just levitating rollslop
Anonymous No.723934356 [Report]
>>723934071
He probably has no idea how most good DOOM players used to move. And yeah, then there are Quake and UT too.
Anonymous No.723934978 [Report]
>classic movement refers to fucking CoD now
wake me up from this nightmare already
Anonymous No.723935118 [Report]
>>723934071
if cod implemented bhop/strf jumping codfags will be having a melty over people flying around the map lmao
Anonymous No.723935245 [Report] >>723946138
I miss Tribes
Anonymous No.723935269 [Report] >>723935683 >>723958403 >>723958485
>>723932443
That was nasty mispell. You mean Wolfenstein ET right?
Anonymous No.723935345 [Report] >>723935428 >>723947537 >>723949197 >>723958441
>>723932303 (OP)
Yes
Anonymous No.723935428 [Report] >>723943345
>>723935345
do codfags not know how to counterstrafe?
Anonymous No.723935536 [Report]
>>723934071
Classic movement was fast.
Modern movement is erratic and spastic.
Anonymous No.723935683 [Report]
>>723935269
I AM A COVERT OPS
I AM A COVERT OPS
Anonymous No.723936774 [Report]
no one itt has ever played arena shooters
Anonymous No.723937796 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
no, arena shooters were always better
Anonymous No.723937816 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
>Was fast movement in FPS games a mistake?

yeah. i wont play any of this shit. its not realistic at all. ruinas what an fps is. ill keep playing insurgency with russians.
Anonymous No.723938152 [Report] >>723938852
>>723932303 (OP)
I've never played CoD MP so I'm sure these complaints make sense in context and it's a schizophrenic mess online or something.
But it is funny seeing someone refer to some bland mid-10s junk as classic. I thought classic CoD was 1-3. Worth playing, some fun missions, including that fuckass "be a russian dude with no gun sent up a hill to die" idea that keeps getting spitballed.
Anonymous No.723938323 [Report] >>723946138
>>723932303 (OP)
Movement was a boomer mechanic.
Then millenials and zoomers grew up with garbage mid 2000s brown and bloom shooters who completely ditched classic FPS movement.
Gen Alpha and Late Zoomers are now bringing movement back into FPS like it should be.
Anonymous No.723938852 [Report]
>>723938152
they're still nonsense in context, half of the complaints about movespeed come from increased default FOV compared to the 7th gen trash they keep jerking off to, as evidenced by these retards complaining about BF6's movement speed being too fast when it's objectively the slowest post-consolization battlefield game but because the default FOV in battlefield isn't fucking 55 like with console BF3 they had a meltdown anyway
and everything else is down to the average failed normalfag nostalgia fagging about muh MW2 and BO2 being incapable of aiming up or strafing or doing anything except either sitting in a corner or failing to do epic quickscopez (realistic and perfectly fine because it was in my 2009 slop shooter i'm now nostalgic for)
Anonymous No.723939034 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
Nah, just make games where you run around like Serious Sam, that's the good shit.
Anonymous No.723939070 [Report] >>723939427
>>723932303 (OP)
No FPS have fast movement anymore. They did at the start of shooters (Quake, Doom, Tribes and Unreal) but now it is all slow as mud corridor shooters like COD. I pitty zoomers. They will never achieve the same level of spatial awareness and pure speed of classic shooters. Sadly we'll never return because COD gaymurs need "muh sprint animation" (COD4 was the worst thing to happen to the gaming industry) or CS gamers who can't comprehend shooting without stopping to stand still first.
Anonymous No.723939179 [Report]
Fast or slow movement doesn't matter the only reason why I ever played CoD was because of the strong aim assist making controllers viable. I hate using kb&m. But now that they nerfd the aim assist I shan't be playing CoD anymore. Just thought you'd like to know.
Anonymous No.723939195 [Report] >>723946138
>>723932303 (OP)
>Was fast movement in FPS games a mistake?

Yes. It prioritizes being a spaz over strategy.
Anonymous No.723939427 [Report] >>723939638 >>723940314
>>723939070
quake champions?
Anonymous No.723939638 [Report] >>723940272
>>723939427
Dead gaem but fast.
Anonymous No.723939861 [Report]
Titanfall 2>>>>
Anonymous No.723940241 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
ADS was the mistake
Anonymous No.723940272 [Report] >>723940820
>>723939638
i played 100 hours of qc now im addicted no game scratches the itch like it does
Anonymous No.723940314 [Report]
>>723939427
Hampions.
Anonymous No.723940820 [Report] >>723941776 >>723942247
>>723940272
>i played 100 hours of qc now im addicted no game scratches the itch like it does
I'm so sorry you tried Quake Champions. The genre is NEVER coming back. Not unless ID gets off their asses and makes a new Quake without the hero shooter nonsense they tacked on (which killed it). I miss arena shooters so fucking much it is unreal. The pain is never-ending.
Anonymous No.723941710 [Report]
bump
Anonymous No.723941776 [Report]
>>723940820
>hero shooter nonsense
kys
Anonymous No.723942169 [Report] >>723942796 >>723943232 >>723943365 >>723947306 >>723948297
Where does this meme come from that Zoomers are some cracked movement gods , opposed to inert "battledad" uncs?

Zoomers grew up on Fortnite and Pubg , their movement isn't any better than that of "unc". Zoomers are shitters, even way more tactically braindead and prone to quitting. My lobbies where way harder in the 2010s than now. I'm a 35 Unc now and I shit Zoom-zooms no problem. Movement is a total non-issue. It all boils down to ad-strafe and occasional slide in 100% of all FPS games.
Zoomers just parrot their own cargo cultists image of themselves, it's patethic.
Anonymous No.723942213 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
ADS and sprint were the true mistakes
Anonymous No.723942247 [Report] >>723943656
>>723940820
there were constant attempts to bring the genre back, it all failed because nobody actually wants to play arena shooters.
Anonymous No.723942796 [Report]
>>723942169
the "uncs" zoomers shit on are not boomers but in fact, millenials who grew up on console garbage like cod and deluded themselves into thinking they were good by stomping 8 year olds
Anonymous No.723943232 [Report] >>723944264
>>723942169
>Zoomers grew up on Fortnite and PUBG
Oldest zoomers are almost 30 now, dumbass. Fortnite was released when a sizeable chunk of them were already fully grown. Zoomers were also much quicker adopters of movement shooters returning to the market than Millennials--hell, Gen Y established and embodied the whole
>I'm gonna pretend that I actually play fast paced AFPS games to try to get kudos on the internet but actually I'm a total fraud
And on that note, whenever I play AFPS these days, the players are always either Gen X or Gen Z, not Gen Y. Gen Z has totally jumped into classic fast-paced shooters now that they're far easier to host servers or play together with modern sourceports, whereas Gen Y were the ones that killed the genre.
Anonymous No.723943340 [Report]
obligatory.
Anonymous No.723943345 [Report] >>723943501
>>723935428
They rely on autoaim
Anonymous No.723943365 [Report]
>>723942169
You should be executed for typing like that
Anonymous No.723943501 [Report] >>723946138
>>723943345
so it would be easier to hit targets when they strafe wouldn't it-it's funny seeing these people hold still like sitting ducks and try to just rely on """aim""" as if it's cs or something
Anonymous No.723943573 [Report]
bring back halo 3 snail pace fps games
Anonymous No.723943656 [Report] >>723943726 >>723943876
>>723942247
Arena shooters never came back because nearly everybody who tried to bring them back went full retard doing it. Quake Champions went hero shooter in a saturated market, Epic told the community to develop UT4 and then pulled the plug on it before it even reached an alpha stage, and everybody else had esports brainworms thinking they had to make a super competitive esports title, forgetting that arena shooters had a sizable casual audience back in their heyday.
Anonymous No.723943726 [Report]
>>723943656
>qc
>hero shooter
why di retards keep parroting this meme?
Anonymous No.723943828 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
>>723934071
7th gen shooter nostalgia is the vidya equivalent of people who unironically pine for the IRL Middle ages.
Anonymous No.723943876 [Report] >>723944341
>>723943656
>Warsow
>Diabotical
>Reflex
Explain why all of these games were supposedly unplayable.
Anonymous No.723944264 [Report] >>723945001 >>723945421
>>723943232
Apex Legends isnt a movement shooter, dumb retard.
Zoomers most popular game has always been Minecraft, while Millennials and GenX was CS (EU) or COD/BF (US).
Zoomers aren't naturally better at FPS, if they are it's because most of them are students that can sink more hours Vs millennials that come home from 10 hour shifts. This whole debate is spastic drivel asspulled out of Zoomer asses to ego-boost . You zoomers all suck, most people suck at multiplayer as a rule .
Anonymous No.723944341 [Report] >>723944636 >>723944907 >>723945001 >>723945465
>>723943876
>Warsow
Literally just quake 3 with worse art direction
>Diabotical
You play as a stupid round fisher price robot. You could go have a nigh identical experience playing Roblox, only there would be infinitely more players.
>Reflex
Literally just quake 3 with worse art direction
Anonymous No.723944497 [Report]
Zoomers love to pretend they dunk on "Uncs" but why do most of them suck utter ass then? The average Zoomer can't aim for shit and is brain-dead. You'd think growing up playing Fortnite would've confered mechanical aptitude
Anonymous No.723944625 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
So the bait is claiming that those are classic movement, right?
Anonymous No.723944636 [Report] >>723945420
>>723944341
NTA but it sounds like the genre reached its peak with Quake 3 and there is nothing else to be done but detract from Q3.
Or in other words the way arena shooters' would of survived would of been for Quake 3 adopt a TF2 style model and just exist from there.
Anonymous No.723944671 [Report]
>>723932894
you're just russians with a different name.
Anonymous No.723944681 [Report]
-oomerposters truly are the dumbest, most tasteless niggers on the planet
Anonymous No.723944907 [Report] >>723945462
>>723944341
>yeah this gameplay is great but it's literally unplayable because i dont like the art direction
Why can't you people just admit that you don't like the genre?
Anonymous No.723945001 [Report] >>723945518
>>723944341
>i just want Q3 any effort to deviate from it is LE BAD
>what, yoy made Q3 with a different artstyle? no not like that!
kys
>>723944264
>codnigger bragging about being good at fps
lmao
Anonymous No.723945420 [Report] >>723945473 >>723950354
>>723944636
>NTA but it sounds like the genre reached its peak with Quake 3

Quake 3 is only the peak if you are an e-sports purist who wants the rawest purest distillation of the genre, because basically *anything* you change about Q3 will either lower the skill ceiling, raise the skill floor, or both, and there's a core of players (most whom are now 40 years old and hardly ever play anything) who will turn their nose up at any deviation from it.

The problem with every one of these Quake clones is that the second one launches, this crowd of people with half lifetime's worth of Quake 3 experience pour into the game at launch, and everyone else stands absolutely zero fucking chance against them because the Q3 formula is just hyperefficient and turning even the smallest difference in skill into an insurmountable advantage. Q3 sorts winners from losers more ruthlessly than anything else ever devised. No new player is ever touching formula and sticking around to git gud while Q3 veterans are still alive.
Anonymous No.723945421 [Report]
>>723944264
>Apex Legends
Nobody mentioned it but you, faggot
Your repertoire of games is casual as fuck
Anonymous No.723945462 [Report] >>723945520 >>723945557
>>723944907
Why would I play a worse version of Quake 3, when Quake 3 is right there?
Anonymous No.723945465 [Report]
>>723944341
>still going "Diabotical child game" in 2025
lol
Anonymous No.723945473 [Report] >>723945589
>>723945420
What exactly do you want then?
Anonymous No.723945507 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
Kek
Consoles were such a mistake
Anonymous No.723945518 [Report]
>>723945001
I actually don't want Quake 3. I preferred Unreal Tournament in pretty much every way.
Anonymous No.723945520 [Report] >>723945635
>>723945462
If the perfect arena fps already exists then what are people complaining about?
Anonymous No.723945557 [Report]
>>723945462
>i like q3 and nothing else
>i will not play anything else
>wtf why is the genre dying???
Anonymous No.723945589 [Report] >>723945910 >>723946010
>>723945473
UT99 with modern netcode.
Anonymous No.723945635 [Report]
>>723945520
Where did I say Q3 was perfect? I'm not really a fan of it.
Anonymous No.723945750 [Report] >>723946524
>>723932580
Hey, you forgot the chinese
Anonymous No.723945910 [Report] >>723946161
>>723945589
Wasn't that Toxikk
Anonymous No.723945931 [Report]
>>723932443
>CS2 perfected anything

kys
Anonymous No.723946010 [Report] >>723946203
>>723945589
that exists

OldUnreal
Anonymous No.723946138 [Report] >>723946253
>>723932303 (OP)
No, adding dual analog was the mistake.
>>723939195
That's just because of autoaim compensating for erratic movement from the mover, while providing large enough movement for the static target to be unable to stay on target.
>>723943501
In terms of their overall design, the vast majority of these games are basically single analog shooters, where you choose which analog stick to use fully at any given time. These games have reduced verticality, low FoV and huge viewmodels, none of which are meant for groundsliding.
>>723938323
>Gen Alpha and Late Zoomers are now bringing movement back into FPS like it should be.
>A bunch of canned animation slop because dual anal log can't into aiming or movement.

>>723935245
Yeah.
Anonymous No.723946161 [Report]
>>723945910
Never heard of it, but it looks very dull.
Anonymous No.723946203 [Report] >>723946256
>>723946010
Not him, but the OldUnreal patch doesn't fix how shit the netcode is for UT99
Anonymous No.723946243 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
Gotta go fast faggot
Anonymous No.723946253 [Report]
>>723946138
codslop has had 120 fov for years now even on console, that's why codniggers cry so much about the games being too fast now, they want to go back to 55 fov
Anonymous No.723946256 [Report] >>723946457 >>723946621
>>723946203
don't they have a distribution of an UT99 exe and thats how most people play ut99 these days ?

if not, put me on because I've been thinking of installing it for awhile
Anonymous No.723946457 [Report]
>>723946256
That doesn't have anything to do with the netcode.
Anonymous No.723946460 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
True classic movement is forward and strafe being independent vectors so the fastest movement speed is at 25 degrees off center
Anonymous No.723946524 [Report]
>>723932580
>>723945750
>>723932894
>>723932897
So nobody who's actually human, got it.
Anonymous No.723946573 [Report]
titanfall 3 when
Anonymous No.723946621 [Report]
>>723946256
Unreal and UT99 are both fully playable online and off, but the netcode is still the original, still written primarily for dial-up.
Anonymous No.723946653 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
>classic movement ala 2010's games
jesus christ
Anonymous No.723946692 [Report]
I personally think that a movement in a shooter should fit whatever type of game it is. Though, if you are going to do a slow shooter, at least make the gun play have depth with shit that you would have to consider when you are shooting in real life.
It's still really funny that people are trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that slower shooters were always accepted when there has been arguments about shooters becoming slower since fucking Half Life.
Anonymous No.723947306 [Report]
>>723942169
Delusional millenialcuck cope, every game I play. Us zoomer chads are dunking on you shit boomers meanwhile every millennial cuck is guaranteed to cry and cope with “he must be hacking” “aim tranny!!”
Anonymous No.723947360 [Report]
>>723932894
No I dont
Anonymous No.723947437 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
No, fast movement was a staple and it got slower for consolefaggots, BO2 feels like shit compared to Q3A for example.
COD's current movement is better than people want to admit but it has some weird kinks to it that still haven't been ironed out.
Anonymous No.723947537 [Report] >>723949197
>>723935345
>>723934071
everybody ITT is missing the forest for the trees. it's not about fast movement. bhopping is GOOD because first of all, it has acceleration time and secondly it doesn't warp your hitbox at all.
COD movement is bad because it doesn't have any acceleration time, you're just instantly teleporting across the map at full speed and it warps your hitbox because you're spamming slides

you retards.
Anonymous No.723947570 [Report]
CoD isn't even fast you guys are getting old and can't cope with this fact.
Anonymous No.723948297 [Report]
>>723942169
zoomers play slide cancel YY cod ADHD shit battledads are the people whining about games being too hard and begging developers to cater to them because they only get to play 1 hour a week on their wifes boyfriends PC and think that they should be on the same playing field as someone that plays the game like a job because their ego is that fragile
Anonymous No.723948909 [Report] >>723949269
bunny hopping looked gay
slide hopping looks gay

zoomers speak like niggers
Anonymous No.723949197 [Report] >>723949502
>>723935345
>>723947537
the other issue is that these zoomerfaggot games have insane aim assist
a lot of these 'movement' fuckers wouldn't be able to hit shit while they're sliding around with their controllers without aim assist
Anonymous No.723949269 [Report] >>723952870
>>723948909
>iToddler
>-oomernigger
Opinion thrown into the incinerator.
Anonymous No.723949502 [Report]
>>723949197
but I can hit people just fine sliding around like a schizo with mouse and keyboard, aim assist needs to go though I agree fuck controller cucks
Anonymous No.723950354 [Report]
>>723945420
that's why arena shooters need sbmm but noooo i have to stomp noobsssss
Anonymous No.723950905 [Report] >>723952163
imagine if quake had aim assist/controllers, lg's would be retardedly strong
Anonymous No.723951851 [Report]
bump
Anonymous No.723952163 [Report] >>723952413
>>723950905
LG and rail have been getting progressively nerfed in each version of q3 (q4, live, qc) because the playerbase got better at aiming
Anonymous No.723952315 [Report]
we should have gatekept zoomer out of gaming.
Anonymous No.723952413 [Report]
>>723952163
current balance in qc is interesting because lg sucks ass and people only use rail and occasionally rl
Anonymous No.723952478 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
no, quake 3 is the best multiplayer fps game
Anonymous No.723952827 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
fast movement is fine, it's spastic movement that's a problem.
it was fine when you had to build up speed via bunnyhopping or sacrifice some health/armor to rocketjump (all the while your hitbox doesn't change shape at all), but when you can do stupid slides and rolls and backflips and shit just as part of your basic movement, then it starts getting stupid.
Anonymous No.723952870 [Report] >>723954353
>>723949269
zigger
Anonymous No.723954029 [Report]
Movement is a crutch, a crutch for shitty ADS 2 weapon loadout game design to bring back any semblance of fun
Anonymous No.723954325 [Report]
id'd mountainous retardation for stubbornly not add an FFA mode in Eternal, doomed all FPS games to this faggotry.
Anonymous No.723954353 [Report]
>>723952870
butthurt hohol
Anonymous No.723955176 [Report]
bump
Anonymous No.723957276 [Report]
bump
Anonymous No.723958190 [Report]
>>723932303 (OP)
I remember when everyone shat on the COD4/Halo era for having massively dumbed down casualbait movement mechanics in comparison to the retro shooters that preceded them. And now these burnout losers in their 30s are saying the modern retvrn-to-tradition reemphasis on movement is a crutch? A crutch for what? Being good at the game? These stupid nostalgiafaggots need to get real fucking opinions beyond "my life is fucked up and I want a time machine to back when I was 14."
Anonymous No.723958403 [Report]
>>723935269
the world can never heal until there is a modern remake of this
Anonymous No.723958441 [Report]
>>723935345
The only thing WZ does wrong is make "auto sprint whenever not ADSing" an optional setting you have to check in the controls instead of being how the game plays by default, which coupled with how you it means you can auto-chain slides by mashing the button makes it an "I win" button against anyone who doesn't know that setting exists. It feels pretty lame when you learn that that's how it works, like you just got pranked by the devs because fuck you I guess.
Anonymous No.723958485 [Report]
>>723935269
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Anonymous No.723958556 [Report]
>>723933523
Not much any more. Skin market just got annihilated.