Thread 723932332

You will never be a success.

You will always be mocked by a 3D shitty vampire survivore clone made in unity, friendslop unity garbage and other shilled games that made TENS OF MILLIONS for 6-8 months of their work while you stay broke and poor forever.

Normies on steam ONLY buy what's popular and shilled, they ONLY buy whats being talked about and what is on the steam global top sellers page. You'll never be a game dev that makes any money. You can have the best gameplay in the world with the most unique concept, revolutionary but if its not shilled on tiktok/streams you will NEVER see a single cent.

You'll never have any money. There is no future in north america for game devs or even zoomers. The only thing that sells is shitty friendslop and clone games that normies eat up.

You'll be stuck in your parents house forever until you die because getting money in 2025 is about luck and malicious tactics with shilling and fake hype, not about making good games.

alright

if you're not making video games out of love for video games then you shouldn't be making video games

>>723932332 (OP)
Keep crying, commie.

>>723932332 (OP)
How many of those were obvious AI slop and woke feminist trash?

I've got a suspiciously large cock, like this thing is BIG.

>>723932332 (OP)
I dont care about the money.
I enjoy the craft itself

>>723932332 (OP)
no one wants or asked for you 100th, fan derivative of underslop OP

>>723932332 (OP)
It's funny how people talk about how steam is scamming people with the 30% commission when they practically lose money hosting this trash

This game has demoralized me so much that it made me stop game dev all together today, I quit working on my game because I realize its pointless. I realize the truth.

Games arent about gameplay, its about fake shilling, criminal tactics, bot farms, fake views and promotions and catchy marketing to shill to normies so they click buy. That is what sells games in 2025 not the love and passion of making a good game..

Even if you make a great game it will never sell because you're a good person, a good game dev and the power of positivity never wins in this world.

Only bad people like the creator of this game win because only malicious evil scheming people win in this world. Only people that use shilling, bot farms, stream promotions make millions. People that use malicious ways to make money win in this world.

If you're a good person who just wants to make a slightly successful game and share your passion it will never work.

Its so over.

are you the seething 19 year old garage dev from the other thread? Lol.

pretty sure its a copy paste by now. just look at that reddit spacing

>>723932652
>anon just discovered marketing
if this one shot you, god help you when you get a job that isnt flipping burgers.
At least you aren't one of these dumb guys watching marketers with youtube channels, giving the old sales pitch about passion, dreams, and what not

>>723932332 (OP)
Yeah but thats because people don't make minimum viable products and instead try to make their dream game which they can't accomplish which means its mediocre to bad and no one wants that.

Starsector is a good example of what predictable hard work can do if you keep your scope small. Just make one thing you think is missing from gaming and focus on it. Good 2D space combat, very few if any existed, dude make it, and it made him a bit of extra money. Its that simple.

>>723932895
No these games like megabonk, lethal company, etc are genuinely bad repetitive games with unoriginal concepts yet they STILL make millions.

The people have spoken. Normies only buy friendslop and whatever is top seller and shilled on the top steam sellers.

Anything else will never be successful.

>>723932652
Sorry to pop your bubble anon but this is true of 99.99% of all human creations.

Apart from water, electricity, food, a roof and some clothes (basic/grey) everything is marketing. Diamonds are worthless, but there is an industry around it. Video games are worthless, but there is an industry around it.

Its not good enough to just say "But I put in time/effort and made something!". That's irrelevant. You're making something to appeal to a humans "soul" or identity. That means you have to capture their minds with you guessed it, marketing.

Megabonk marketing was great. Guy had a tiktok account, posted his progress, then asked people for feedback and added it. He captured their attention by showing attention, something most devs never do. They post trailers then ignore everyone and everything. That works for some games, and not for others, it depends on what you're trying to appeal to in peoples minds.

tldr no shit you dumb nigga everything is marketing.

>>723932957
They bring fun. That is all that matters.

>>723932957
Lethal company was an original concept

>>723933049
No only evil people and low effort things make it into the world.

And as for inventions the masses take smart people's ideas by force for themselves if they can while giving nothing in return.

Fuck the human race. It never pays to be good or a good person.

Everyone should be evil. The world only rewards evil people and people who are malicious.

>>723933190
>No I must be right said the evil person its everyone else that is wrong
Ok kiddo

>>723933190
>low effort
Actually those games required massive amounts of effort, through intelligence. Something you clearly lack.

>>723932652
Megabonk is good though

>>723932647
They'd be spending more than $100 buying votes from russian bot farms if Greenlight still existed

>>723932652
If your goal is to make a "successful game" then you should just stop and kill yourself now, I agree

>>723933085
It was a one hit wonder friendslop shilled by streamers and was successful because streamers pushed it to the top global sellers on steam.
It's already dying and bleeding. Same with battlebit remastered. All unoriginal concepts. Phasmaphobia did it first. Battlebit made money because it was shilled by streamers, and then its dead now.

That's the only reason why this furry zoomer isn't poor like the rest of us and is now worth over 30 million USD. Pure luck and malicious shilling, not because it is a good game.

if it was never shilled by streamers this game would be dead in the water.

>>723933470
Hes a retard who just wants to get rich quick and has not one talent or care for video games at all in his body

>>723933503
>5k players daily after a year
Is hugely successful. There are AAA games that don't achieve that retention.

>>723933470
>>723933529
If lethal company, megabonk and battlebit remastered were never shilled they would be dead games never to be seen.

So if its not about good gameplay or original concepts why should I pretend that game dev should matter. Just churn out friendslop like lethal company, repo or peak.

It should cost more to publish a game on Steam. Clearly $100 isn’t enough of a deterrent. Make it $10,000.

have any indie games gotten popular completely independent of streamer faggots shilling them in the past half decade or nah

>>723932332 (OP)
just pay asmonturd to react to your game
you will make your money back in a day

>>723932492
this anon speaks sagely advice that used to be common knowledge in the 2000s where people would make games for FREE with never any expectations of anything else.
>>723932652
don't tell me you're the kind of idiot that quit his dayjob thinking that you could cash in on the "indie goldrush" that's been going on for the past 15 years.

>>723933650
In fact this goes a lot deeper than just money, its a philosophical thing.

If karma doesnt exist, if bad people exist and live to 100+, if nobody gets what they deserves and deserve what they get, if evil malicious scheming people who exploit and manipulate people don't get punished, then why should I be a good person?

Why should I be a good person and not be evil if nothing matters.

>>723933884
There's proof that karma doesnt exist. Good people dont last long in this world.

It only pays to be devilishly evil, malicious, malevolant and exploitative. If you arent evil maxxing there's no point in life. If you aren't scamming, stealing, robbing there's no point in life.

>>723933884
get the fuck over yourself dude.
you're butthurt that some people made some junkfood in the form of a videogame, got a brief time to shine in the spotlight, and are mad that you don't get a slice of the cake after it has already been eaten and there are dozens of other copycats on the scene.
this isn't karma or any of that bullshit, this is just people creating toys and being paid for being the first to think of a specific one. it isn't that deep.
do it yourself or continue crying like a little bitch about it. you see it only in terms of money and not as a form of creative expression. you're the same kind of brown subhuman that thinks the pretty girl on the screen owes you sex because you donated 3 thousand dollars to her. there's more to life than thinking everything is a 1:1 pipeline between input and output. But even if there were, you're putting in zero real effort and are getting zero results, so continue doing what little you are doing best you whiny lazy fucking faggot.

>>723934314
While it is true that jewwmaxing and demanding more for yourself and giving others less will make you materially wealthy.

I would argue that it is bad for the sovl. And you will not like yourself if you were to do so.
Some people are fortunate enough to be born ignorant of others feelings and needs and there sovl does not suffer when they act greedily.

>>723934394
Why should I go to work, go do electrical, plumbing or any manual labor job when a zoomer faggot furry or some evil fuck makes tens of millions off a low effort video game.

I'm just not going to do anything in life, I will just refuse to work and wait to die.

There's no point I'm demoralized. Good people don't win. Only evil and bad people win on earth. Only people on the dark side win.

>>723934507
save your family some time and kill yourself now so they can get the mourning over with and move on to making a more-worthwhile son
you're mindbroken by a meme game, you weren't going to amount to anything even if your alleged "dream game" were even real. I bet you haven't even gotten past the stage where you scribble ideas in a notebook that you'll definitely make someday

It's like this with literally anything. Dudes write entire novels that nobody ever wants to read. If you're lucky it stays that way, instead of having an HP Lovecraft situation where you die broke from preventable illness, only for people to fellate your work for centuries after the fact and then judge you as a person while they profit off of it.

So just do what makes you happy, maybe look at what people do spend money for so you can find a niche market.

>>723932332 (OP)
Post some incredible games that didn't sell on steam

>>723932492
WE ARE NOT ALONE

>>723934767
HP lovecraft is a perfect example I was going to bring up. Great writing and deserved wealth yet he was never anything same with nietzsche. How many people are like that? Great games, great books and thinkers but never acknowledged. The world isnt fair, and only rewards crafty, lying evil manipulative people.

Its not all about money, but I need money to live. All I want is a 500sqft small house with a kitchen, some rural land. Nothing fancy. It would cost less than 350k USD. But I'll never have that because I know my work wont ever be successful.

>>723934943
If you're a starving artist, get a job.
Art should be made for art's sake, not for money. If you view it in such a narrow way you'll never be happy because you'll always be looking at money money money and never enjoy the creative process itself.
Don't turn your hobby into your livelihood, it'll just turn into another fucking job.

my buddy and his dev friend released their first game earlier this month and accoring to him they had made like 60k after the first couple weeks, before gabe tax etc. just based on the dev split and paying their music dude and other contributors i think he came away with 15k or so. u can make it too bros.

>>723934943
>The world isnt fair, and only rewards crafty, lying evil manipulative people.
That's just not true either. I think it's more accurate to say that the sort of obsessive and neurotic people that can make good media tend to also be terrible at negotiating, or communicating at all.

I think you'll set yourself up for failure, for starts, if you go at it with the idea that this is the only thing you're going to do, and other people will celebrate you for it. That worked in a smaller world with a greater disparity in wealth. You needed a rich patron and you could be an artist, full stop. Some artists are born too soon, and Lovecraft was born too late. You establish yourself, though, and then anything you make from that point is going to have the honesty of human experience behind it.

Stop being a crybaby, play some getting over it and re-think your motivation.
If it's not genuine don't bother. Don't appeal to the mainstream like some money hungry loser.

Make games that you would want to play fuck, everyone else.

>>723932332 (OP)
>You can have the best gameplay in the world with the most unique concept,
Which almost guaranteed none of those 5,000 games did

>>723932652
You're a huge faggot for assuming he's a bad person because he was successful and implying you're a good person because you failed.

>>723932492
>if you're not making video games out of love for MAKING video games then you shouldn't be making video games
I fixed that for you

if you don't love the act of making them you won't get very far and /agdg/ is filled with retards like that who refuse to accept it and shit up the threads instead

>>723933650
Lethal Company especially is just a guy that loves to make games and got noticed through people discovering the game, not because he wanted it to be a hit or paid shills to become one
Unlike the dozens of trannies that immediately tried to latch onto it in order to "help"

>>723933190
You're not a good person if that's how you view the world. You're a sniveling little sack of shit ranting about how you got mogged.

>>723933190
Ok then faggot show me the video game you made

>>723936424
Bet you this mad at Megabonk guy will never link his game because he knows he'll get laughed at.

Why do you crave validation this much

Try harder, fail harder. Until you stop failing.

That's what everyone has to do.

>>723932332 (OP)
You retards argue about game success like its the presidential election. Who cares? The free market will decide who buys what. Unless you're a homosexual who works for a video game developer none of you have any stakes

>>723932492
AI is going to help me do that

>>723932332 (OP)
Playing Tag is more fun that Hopscotch, hopscotch should get broke.

>>723932332 (OP)
The amount of endless slop on steam is honestly impressive.

>>723932647
They own the infra. It costs them practically nothing to host some shovelware that's never getting any views or downloads.

>>723932332 (OP)
Most games could at least recoup the $100, if not its other costs, just by their devs pushing their game even a little bit.
It doesn't happen because devs ironically expect everyone else to do the legwork for them. That ain't how it fucking works. If you can't pay everyone with an audience to shill for you, you gotta do your own shilling. Otherwise noone will ever fucking know you exist.
You try to sell your game on a platform with tens of thousands of games, on which only a bare handful get front page exposue, either be prepared to pimp like a motherfucker, or be content with the knowledge you'll only sell if you hit the lottery odds.

>>723932652
shouda made a better game

>>723932652
>a good game dev and the power of positivity never wins in this world.
if that's the metric you're going for, toby fox is literal that, and smoked 99% of indie games in his first attempt.

>>723933281
it's always some seething nodev who's never made a game and doesn't recognize the amount of work that went into making successful game a or b

>>723936470
that's the thing he doesn't have a game and the real reason he's mad is because he thinks he could've made that game but now that someone else made it he feels like it was stolen from him even when he has no skills and has never made a game

utterly delusional

>>723933653
10k would cut genuinely good games. 1k is more appropriate. Anyone with a good game could get that on itch or kickstarter or something.

Or if it's 10k make like a nu-greenlight platform where steam users can preorder the game and if it hits 10k sales it gets greenlit and becomes available on steam.

>>723932332 (OP)
>Normies on steam ONLY buy what's popular and shilled, they ONLY buy whats being talked about and what is on the steam global top sellers page. You'll never be a game dev that makes any money. You can have the best gameplay in the world with the most unique concept, revolutionary but if its not shilled on tiktok/streams you will NEVER see a single cent.
genuine question

why did we let the normalfags have so much power? what happened and why is this allowed?

gamers should be > normalfags

but somehow it's the other way around?
How did we lose?

>>723935897
You don't even need anything unique, just a little tiny bit of fun to make back the $100. I was part of a student team and even our trash made like $2000 in a couple months and it's a game that has no business being on Steam.

>>723937561
Unlike gamers, normie sheep actually buy games.

>>723936935
Do they really? They have like 200 download locations from around the world that would be impressive

>>723932332 (OP)
How many games were released this year in total?
How many had AI?
How many were released as early access games?

>>723937857
They might not own the literal data centers the servers are located in but they built their own network with those servers and among other things it can be used to play games globally with less latency than using normal routing.

If hosting this shovelware was a notable expense they would've raised the fee.

>>723937561
once the normie learned how to internet it was over

>>723932332 (OP)
I don’t even care about success. I just want to fucking play a video game but since no one makes real ones anymore, I guess I have to do it myself

>>723932332 (OP)
uhhh no. My roguelike gambling flappy bird game will be picked up by streamers and I'll sell 5 million copies.

>>723937561
Now this is a trvke

>>723932332 (OP)
I've made six figures off my game tough

>>723933190
Anyone who says everyone should be evil is fundamentally evil, sorry pal you were never one of the good ones

>>723937561
normalfags actually spend money

>>723936252
Yeah. People should remember that just because they like something, doesn't mean they'll like making that thing. And I suppose the inverse is true too, but probably to a lesser extent.

>>723932332 (OP)
This is why people should be making garbage mobile games.
Big bucks and people actually play total shit.

>>723941543
Normalfags actually have money

Most of the fags here pirate because they have to, not by choice. Like are any of the smug faggots who brag about piracy (as if finding 1337x is some achievement) actually using their money to fund Indies theyre impressed by? No they pirate because they're fat ugly neets afraid of going outside with no money to spare

>>723943304
I find that when I do pirate it usually wasn't worth the pirate or in rare occasions it was worth it and then I tend to buy the game.

>>723932332 (OP)
The amount of games released on steam is fucking absurd and it's getting worse every single year.

>>723937561
>How did we lose?
We let women on the internet.

>>723937956
>How many games were released this year in total?
Over 30 thousand on steam alone and the year isn't done yet, see pic i posted >>723945196

Source is steamdb.

Why are people on 4chan so defeatist?

>making a game with the purpose of it selling a lot
cringe
>making a game you personally always wanted to play but it hasn't been made yet
based

>>723932332 (OP)
https://howtomarketagame.com/

>>723945196
>30k games
>not single good one

>You HAVE to buy my game
>Look inside
>Asset flips, AI voices, abysmally dogshit stock gameplay, creator is some leftie grifter

>>723945196
>mfw 2023 to 2024 was a 30% increase
it is so fucking over

>>723945196
The problem is AI
Uncreative ideas guys keep dropping AI slop games that nobody asked for or wants to play

>>723945565
this is me.

>>723946403
its gonna get worse anon, its really gonna get worse, much worse, like imagine flood of AI generated crap, real flood, like REAL FLOOD

>>723932652
I never heard anything about this game until I watched a streamer(cringe).
It looks like your decent roguelike akin to risk if rain. Some of these games are really fun. Yes.

>>723932332 (OP)
good we need less low effort slop

>>723932332 (OP)
I find this hard to believe considering how gamers will blow all their money on absolute shit early access/indie/mainstream woke garbage.
It's like gamers enjoy buying shitty games and then playing maybe 1/10th of the games they buy on their autistic spending sprees.

>you should make games for yourself first and foremost
That's a primitive and naive way of looking at it. Games aren't something like visual art, writing or music, requiring significantly less time investment to do, and are very accessible to others. Games are insanely complex and massive things that take at least months (if you care about making something good, not cubes and default avatars) to make. When you get zero acknowledgement, let alone money, it makes it harder for someone to keep doing it, compared to arts or music.
But I suppose it would make sense that such primitive reasoning would be particularly common among the dullards here.

>>723946651
>The golden years of the internet was just Americans and some Germans and Japanese.
What a time to be alive it was. Thank heavens I was there to experience it.

>>723946867
lot of words that can be disproven by just pointing towards cave story.

1) It is not Steam's job to market for you.

2) You do not deserve ten billion sales for just copying another game wholesale.

>>723933653
>I want AAA slop only!!
Holy fucking Reddit retard. You qualify for the most brain dead faggot. Probably easily manipulated as well.

>>723932332 (OP)
make a good game then seething commie

>>723946782
There were over 18K games released on steam last year. I personally bought 9 games that were released last year and I spend most of my free time playing video games. You are vastly overestimating how many games people buy.

>>723932652
retard

>>723932332 (OP)
Maybe if your game wasn't shit people would have bought it. Spend less time whining on /v/ and more time improving it.

>>723946924
It doesn't disprove anything. In fact it only reinforces the point further. Of course your intellectual capacity is too low to understand, but still.

>>723946651
turd world should've never been allowed online

>>723945196
>that massive jump when 3rd worlders started shitting out 0 effort ai slop

>>723947680
am I too optimistic to think that they tried in 2024 and the vast majority gave up by 2025 since their slop didn't sell?

>>723947680
>massive jump
Retard

>>723947756
>goes from around 22,000 to around 30,000 games
>increase of 8000 when normally the growth would be 2,000 to 3000 games between years
hmmm.... i wonder if that could mean something. nah, you're probably right, it's nothing

>>723947256
>It doesn't disprove anything.
it does and you're wrong. keep coping.

>>723947218
shit games can recoop their costs, it's mostly a lack of shilling. you can't just put your game out there and expect it to succeed on its merits alone. it'll be burried by the hundred other games coming out every day.

>>723948180
>it does
Do tell how then. In your own words.

>>723936282
100% not true you fucking shill.cot was streamed to no end and was compared as the triple A killer. Same with battlebit. Schedule 1 was also heavily shilled by big streamers like asmongold.

These streamers are the reason these games made millions and not dead I'm the water. You just won't accept that because it means making games is about luck, not good gameplay or skill in making games.

Lethal company and schedule 1 would be dead fucking flops in the indie page 100% and only get 1000-2000 sales if it weren't for big streamers.

>>723937218
>toby fox is literal that, and smoked 99% of indie games in his first attempt.
toby also participated and had experience making rom hacks, alongside working on homestuck

>>723932332 (OP)
This sounds like incompetent seethe by someone not capable

you could've done literally everything Megabonk is doing.
Anons could practice now by making clones of all kinds of game in a 3d dev art style, hone their gameplay making skills

and wait for the next vampire survivors genre to come out in 2d indie infancy

and be the first to make it 3d and fun

its not that hard
you could do it
but instead you dont want to

The games that fail are made by trannies and leftists.
I'm neither a tranny or a leftist.
My game will succeed.

>>723949249
Peripeteia and Lunacid are both made by trannies for leftists and they succeeded though. And retarded chud games flopped.

>>723932332 (OP)
>random game fails
Yeah no shit retard, if you release a game you're competing with all games that came before it and your game better be good or a novelty to stand out among the crowd.
Even outside of gaming most small businesses fail, just think about your hometown and how many shops closed only for another to take their place that closed shortly after.
Also this statistic is probably super bloated with trash slop like waifs puzzle 39 or some other garbage.

>>723948498
oh now you're demanding me to elaborate? no. you're just too stupid to understand the argument. so figure it out yourself imbecile.

>>723949480
Incredible how quickly you folded. You lost btw.

>>723932652
Toby and Team Cheery disagress
They made games with passion in mind and it worked

But I asume I will get the reply "Actually those 2 doesnt count"

>>723932332 (OP)
>EZ 500k just from putting AIslops on the store
No wonder they have shitty store moderation.

>>723949913
for every 2 passion games that succeed there's a thousand that get completely buried by steam.

your turn.

>>723949429
Schedule 1 would've never succeeded if it weren't for asmonjew and moistreddit.

Nobody would've known about it and it would've been buried in the dirt on steam. Its a shitty babies first indie unity game with 1 year of development with the same repeated gameplay loop over and over with a small ass map

>Only good games should make money and be popular but also they should never ever be seen or touched or played or shown by people with a lot of reach
how do you expect 500000 people to independently discover a game and buy it without ever talking about it

>Games are only le successful when shilled by streamers and normies!
That's completely false though. There are zero "hidden gems" on Steam because good games don't stay hidden. NJ made by one Norwegian guy with zero marketing yet absolutely blew up

>>723950102
The point is not that I hate marketing. Its that some games that don't deserve it are SPECIFICALLY chosen by streamers out if pure luck, usually because these streamers need views and content farms.

Like how asmonjew needed content to talk about how shit the new assassins creed game was so he shilled schedule 1 to no end in his streams for a week straight.

They are essentially picking who becomes a millionaire and who doesn't.

Plenty of good games die because nobody cared despite marketing.

>>723933049
>it's all marketing
Not everything. Think of all the marketing they did for GTA 5 and think of the marketing for something like Balatro or Factorio. Sure GTA 5 sold more copies, but what did most people sink hours into?

>>723949969
>buried by steam
imagine if there was no steam but like 20 or better 50 different launchers and shops, truly these games would be have perfect visibility

>>723950219
Name one.

There aren't any. "Hidden gems" is a myth.

>>723932332 (OP)
You shouldn't be making games if you want money. It isn't and has never been a profitable career.

>>723950143
That proves my point. Northern journey is a far better game in effort, style, content.

Schedule 1 is babies first unity project that is more simplistic and has less content than a roblox game.

Yet schedule 1 got nearly 80 TIMES more reviews. SO it made 80 times more money all because it was shilled by asmonjew.

Maybe the guy who made northern journey spent 6 years of his life making it where as schedule one made 20 million just for a shitty unity game.

Now thinks of all the people who made games like northern journey and didn't even get 100-150k and got zero or a couple thousand for hears of work.

Its not fair.

>>723950641
based artisan killing slopper soys

>>723933503
Phonebrained zoomers such as you always think in fortnite style metrics. It is perfectly okay for a game to fade after racking in millions for the devs.

>>723950485
*Unless you get shilled by streamers, then you become an instant multi millionaire over night for making a shit unity game or 3D vampire survivors clone :)

Wow game dev really pays off! What about those thousands of game devs that spent years of their lives making good games? They don't matter!

>>723932332 (OP)
I will never even try...

>>723950641
Blowing up like that because a digital jester picked your game up is sheer luck, if you don't pay them to. It's an outlier that shouldn't be really factored as it's an extreme just as much as games getting review bombed.

>>723932492
This. Make the game you always wanted to play. Making games is a hobby to be done in nights and weekends. If when it's done you can also sell it, great, but the fun should come from the journey and satisfaction of seeing and playing a finished product you built yourself, not from the money you might make. You have a job for making money.

>>723950791
My point is popular games aren't good games they are only games that people buy because they are shilled.

People don't buy games that are actually indie unless they are shilled so good games never get bought.

Normies only buy what's on the front page of steam en masse otherwise they don't buy enough.

>>723934943
Get a job. Art is just a hobby.

>>723932492
it pays the bills

>>723950739
You don't deserve to make tens of millions for making a shit friendslop game and at the same time expect me to go work a normal job.

Here's your options you can keep the money and I'll never work and be a NEET until this shit society collapses

OR

You can admit this is unfair, and both of us can be poor.

Lethal company like all shilled indies would be dead if not for streamers.

>>723932652
>it made me stop game dev all together
great news, hope for more occasions like this!

>>723936620
Lmao.

>>723946867
If you don't enjoy the process of making the game why are you doing it? People paint because the act of painting is enjoyable, not because they want people to see the finished work. Making games is the same way.

>>723951203
You're poor too. How does it feel to be poor while some faggot furry zoomer. Made 40 million USD. How does it feel to be a wagecuck while this guy will buy a mansion on 1000 acres.

You're just as miserable as me. I have a feeling that people such as moistreddit know society is ending soon so they are just flaunting their wealth before it all collapses. that's why he did that earning reveal video

>>723949320
except in case of peri the schizo posting the tranny accusations never posted requested proof

>>723946867
>Games are insanely complex and massive things that take at least months (if you care about making something good, not cubes and default avatars) to make.
So like art, music, sculptures, crafts, writing etc?

>>723951271
>You're just as miserable as me
not him but misery is in man heart, you poison yourself
there are people who have better and easier than me but also these who have worse and harder
so what?
I can find my own happiness or at last avoid unhappiness, just stop wallow in your own shit

>>723932332 (OP)
>im a loser so
>you must be loser too
Nah homie. Grow up.

>>723932652
Anons are seething, but you're 100% correct. This was secretly made by Dani, a youtuber with millions of subscribers. He probably used his discord army to inflate the numbers for Megabonk

>>723947160
I am not overestimating it, I have seen hundreds of accounts with 500+ games, most of which are unplayed. I have met people like this in real life too.

>>723951271
>How does it feel to be poor while some faggot furry zoomer. Made 40 million USD
his money, not mine, why I should give a fuck? Bezos exists, saudi prince exists, they could buy countries, still you are envious about some successful guy. Don't be like that, jeety

>>723951170
The market does not care about abstractions like fair or unfair. There is supply and demand. And if you want to make your product visible you will need marketing, doubly so in an oversaturated market like videogames. Streamer shilling is just another form of marketing.

>>723932492
>video game industry: the ONLY thing that matter is shilling, game quality is largely irrelevant
>retard: passion and love, teeheehee
Holy mother, what a fucking retard you are.

I'll try anyways. Because I want to. I'd rather money be a side effect instead of the goal. I won't do 0 marketing because a little bit won't hurt but if my first release doesn't make any money, I'll just make another game.

>>723932631
Soul

>>723932652
I just heard about this game in here. I wishlisted it because it looks fun and will probably buy it tomorrow alongside Powerwash Simulator 2

>>723951271
You're brown. Sorry that you will never be able to move into the first world after becoming ultra rich from your first dream game, pajeet.

>>723951451
Retard. You are literally a subhuman who can't read. Kill yourself NOW.

>>723952149
Pajeet rage.

>>723952198
Projecting your own browness

>>723950967
So does getting a job, you just don't want to get off your gaming chair that barely supports your weight.

>>723952198
>>723952265
Who's the real poop?
Fight!

>>723951879
>yet another anon for "hidden gem" thread
so tiresome, such great idea was ruined by anons shilling their own games

>>723932332 (OP)
The problem is that comparared to 20 years ago, everything goes faster.
There are more and more games, without considering that old good ones are timeless.

>>723932332 (OP)
projecting much?
here I got 6 figures on the game industry, which I joined in 06, by just being a wagie producer that works 1-2 hours a day and then delegate everything else
>imagine living in burgerland past school age
migrate nigguh, the grass is literally greener

>>723932332 (OP)
Hey don't say that!
I've already broke even on my first game.

>>723952596
That's the thing. Everyone has also a massive backlog which they realise, and they drop out of buying new things, unless it blows them away. It's most likely getting harder to find an audience for anyone who's creating a clone of a clone, especially when it's your first title.

>>723932652
i know this is a bait post but yes, catchy marketing is infinitely more important than actual game quality

>>723932652
>criminal tactics
Have you considered breaking some of those supposed laws if they're also doing it?

I went through my old PS4 library and I stumbled a game I bought 9 years. It's wild that a basic precision platformer like this got massive attention back then.