Thread 723946183

post lost technology

>>723946183 (OP)
Wouldn't it go through the whole thing be even if somehow the kinetic energy didn't shatter the glass wouldn't there be another hole on the other side leaking as well

>>723946196
this demake is fucking foul

the worse part is that people stomached this

you aren't based for killing fish y'know. not at all.

>>723946278
a normal bullet yes but not the lost technology demonstrated in the op post

>>723946278
it's a subsonic round designed to not over penetrate and make zero noise when shot

>>723946589
I'm sure a subsonic round at point blank would still shatter that or at the very least go all the way through

>>723946808
a bullet might not shatter the glass and water is good at stopping but the cavitation and resulting shockwave would definitely destroy it

>>723947140
Yeah that's what I was saying the kinetic energy of the bullet would surely shatter the glass

>>723946465
Game?

some time in the past 20 years they just lost the tech to make gibs/gore

Why did we downgrade in tech?

This isn't lost technology. It's just extra details the devs planned and decided to add into the games. Like pic related. They can still do this today, they just don't want to or can't due to restraints.

>>723946183 (OP)
>shoot bullet into glass
>makes a tiny little hole

>>723947319
crysis 1

>>723947337
millennials got scared of gore so they stopped adding it

>>723946278
no, bullets lose a lot of energy going through water but the glass would shatter unless it's plexiglass or other acrylic

>>723947319
patheric newfag

don't play a remaster btw, play original, gog version plays right out of the box, also get warhead too, it's even better than crysis 1

>>723947754
Yeah but the water isn't even close to being as deep horizontal as your gif it would definitely shatter from the kinetic energy

>>723947880
PAT FROM GAME THEORY WE NEED YOU TO TEST THIS

>>723946196
It's such a fucking cope when people say it can't be done because ''you have to generate the same scene twice''
You should be able to generate the same scene 100 times.

>>723947598
gore has never disappeared, it's still around, faggot

>>723946285
that reminds me how sony was going all out about their "particle technology" in knack when ps4 released

>>723947598
it was more the artists getting fucked up from staring at images of irl gore for references

>>723948181
dumb zoomer

>>723946183 (OP)
The fire tech from Far Cry 2
Backlast from rocket launchers would legit burn burn the grass behind you

>>723947754
Now I'm no scientist but a bullet shot in water probably is already handicapped because it needs to go through the water in the barrel, and as we all know, water doesn't compress

>>723946285
NJudea could open source this and have it run on any modern gpu. Instead doesn't even update it to work on their own new hardware.

>>723947337
I think the last shooter I played with satisfying violence was The Darkness 2.

It was great but short as fucka nd ended on a cliffhanger.

>>723947962
And they did generate the same scene twice. That's what they did in SH3, they rendered the same model of Heather on the opposite side of the "mirror" and made it mimic the same movement.

>>723948396
the bullet probably loses more energy to penetrate the glass of a fish tank which is probably a higher strength glass because it has to hold the pressure of the water

>devs are creatively bankrupt
>tech is not evolving
>graphics stagnated
>games are $70-80
Yeah gaming is dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqgMfH1qwNM
I remember there being more to this video showing bending metal and squishy breakable jelly but it seems like the full video has been lost to time

>>723948401
It is open source now, and doesn't work on 5000 series cards

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-physx-and-flow-are-now-fully-open-source/

When consoles recognized the time on your device and actually implemented them in the game.

>MvC2 clock stage
>Animal Crossing

>>723949694
DMM had licensing issues, better stuff came along like nvidia blast

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/Blast

However that's now been integrated into Unreal but apparently no one knows how to use it. PhysX if you were wondering is now being converted into something called nvidia Omniverse that uses PhysX to procedurally generate break points with AI.

https://developer.nvidia.com/physx-sdk

>>723949916
works on linux with vulkan translations

>>723950605
no shit? was it implemented into Batocera?

>>723947398
>drops his saw in the mud
This game fucking sucks.

>>723950684
i don't know what that is nigga. if it runs with proton, then it gets translated to vulkan. maybe wine does it too

>>723950780
Kek

>>723946285
dont show the borderlands 2 one

>>723950840
Batocera is a custom Linux build specifically for running emulators.

https://batocera.org/

>>723946183 (OP)
not even nortubel has this

>>723950168
>MGS3
Also honorable mention: in newer Pokemon games, if you enter the Pokemon center on your birthday, you get a special jingle.

>>723946196
Always amazes me to remember the 360 had only 512MB of RAM.

>>723947398
I too loved Oblivion.

>>723950874
is it hard to just install the emulators on their own?

>>723947337
Nonsense.

>>723951374
naw but this is preset and it works really well for old deprecated tech like all those Win 10 machines being tossed this month. They're perfect for Batocera builds you can repurpose and sell to normies.

>>723951537
oh ok. though it sounds like you are running it for modern pc games as well if you are asking about physx games

>>723951627
it runs steam too so yeah that's why I was wondering

>>723947598
>millennials
Spotted subversive jew-opper

>>723951671
if it runs steam it runs proton
I sure as fuck wouldn't use it for that

>>723949065
>that webm
What the fug

Someone post the removed fog of Persona 4 Vanilla

>>723946183 (OP)
Devs had more time and passion to implement such things, now they have neither

>>723946405
>people stomached this
I have not seen Capcom boasting about how well the chink remake sold so people clearly did not

>>723949916
plus they also killed its x86 side so a lot of older games are now kino

>>723951414
that's no gore or gibs that's just a blood splash effect when the knife clips through the body

>doing my annual halloween fear playthrough
>get to this bit
>realize I haven't seen a single other game do water like this
stalker's come kind of close with some anomalies but this simply looks so strangely serene

>>723948396
What, didn't watch Mythbusters when you were younger?
https://youtu.be/yvSTuLIjRm8

>>723954531
i don't watch two gay boys experiment

>>723954159
Water caustics are underrated atmospherekino

>>723954587
AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT YOU

>>723950890
SHUT THE FUCK UP
KILL YOURSELF

>>723947346
Because devs back then would make their own engines or use one developed by another studio and improve upon it.
Today most devs churned out by game development schools knows nothing but Unreal.
Most don't even know any other programming language.

>>723948383
Far Cry 2 was good. You could also easily make your own multiplayer maps.

>>723955008
Kerbal Space Program lookin kinda jank

>>723955008
Elite and Elite 2 still blow me away with how ahead of their time they were

>>723948383
FC2 fire is cool at first glance but after playing so much, noticed there seems to be a cap or time limit on how much fire can spread. You can never create a huge smoldering inferno, only 10x10 yards at one time

>>723946196
Actually inexcusable.

>>723954159
based

>>723946196
>the fucking Wii can do it
Truly depressing.

>>723955008
>fucking 1993
What the fuck

>>723946465
how does a game from almost 20 years ago look as good or better than AAA games coming out right now?

>>723956009
Google the dev teams, and you shall know your answer

>>723949065
WTF

>>723947140
>gif
bro I wasn't misremembering, my friend really did slap the top of a soda bottle and caused a clean cut of the bottom

>>723955552
Is that MDK? I didn't remember that you get to play as the doctor dude

>>723949065
That webm is satanic and makes NO SENSE

>>723946183 (OP)
>Lost
More like pointless
>>723956009
How, look at those awful textures

>>723956375
MDK2

>>723956528
Is that the one where you start with an orbital drop where you have to evade shit?
I should just replay these games instead of asking stupid questions

>>723946196
>Crowbcat the cherrynigger

>>723956556
Yes, that one. You play 3 maps with Kurt, 3 maps with Max and 3 with the doctor.

>>723956446
>t. low spacial iq

>>723949065
l get angry while looking at this

>>723949065
This feels sexual somehow

>>723956009
>or better
it doesnt and youre seriously out of touch if you think it does

i blame 'agile' development

>>723947962
It would require optimizing the game in the first place. IT CAN'T BE DONE DEAL WITH IT

>>723947398
If only cockstar had focused on making a fun game instead of a boring sim.

>>723955846
demo scenes always bring out the greatest minds

>graphics fags
No different from the zoomergarbage that killed the industry

>>723947398
I could've sawn that off alteast 4 times faster.

>>723955197
most amazing thing about it is that it was written in Assembly
genuine mental illness but I am all for it

>>723953608
I hope that's true. still, there are too many people on the internet who have very likely never played the original and claim that the remake is better in every way. same with the fake RE4 and SH2 fans

Gaytracing could never

>>723946465
Nothing has come close to that level ever for me. Whole valley felt like a warzone and if you wanted you just just get out the tank and do it all on foot

>>723957152
Graphical fidelity might not be as high but this was a game you played with 2gb of RAM and 512mb of VRAM.
Compare it to Pic related in Unreal 5 with systems multiple times more powerful and your seeing diminishing returns.
Plus the art style, effects and physics in Crysis are still top tier.

>>723947337
Loads of games still have gibs

>>723947398
kinda reminds me of this guy

>>723957726
interpolation will never look good

>>723957581
everything was written in assembly back then

>>723946285
What game is this?

>>723946285
Can be done with cookie cutter particle vfx in all major engines. What is lost about it.

>>723954250
thumbnail makes it seem like a faceless luigi is pointing at me

>>723947398
what fucking zoomer made this webm?
red turd redemption (and gay theft auto) sold that many copies because of retarded whales in multiplayer

>>723959587
Hawken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXbz85-Pctg

>>723946183 (OP)
>no water spillage on the floor
>shot doesn't go through the rear panel
>high velocity bullet makes a pathetic looking 1cm circle on glass
it was an effort but a bit cringe nonetheless

Grids
Modern goyming cannot render grinds and if they do it's a shitty single tender that can't be shot through

>>723956606
post all the favorable comparisons, then. i'll wait.

>>723960202
show us

>>723947398
>saw unceremoniously dropped, moves weightless sawhorse

>>723960821
The industry gave up on textures with alpha layers, which oddly enough MSAA was really good at cleaning up with alpha to coverage.
I believe CS2 still has some in de_nuke on the outside of the map.

>>723946285
so why the fuck was physx dropped? i keep seeing stuff like "it can be done now without physx" yet i dont see any examples of such good sfx on a level comparable to physx, anyone have an example or the reason physx was dropped? is it hard to implement? do devs need to pay a license to use it?

>>723961235
>The industry gave up on textures with alpha layers
why?

>>723949065
oh so this is why i'm bad at these puzzles. they're the black magic of physics

>>723946183 (OP)
GTA 6 is going to absolutely mog every single game ever created combined in technology isn't it?
>That doesn't make a good game!
I don't give a fuck, I absolutely love technology in games.

>>723961317
devs are betas now

>>723961251
i think it is because nvidia wanted to keep it exclusive to nvidia cards, so it made amd customers mad if your game used physx

>>723961251
Nvidia had a lower market share then. Studios didn't actively seek them out for tech.
It wasn't until around late 2010s that NVIDIA now reaches out to every big devs to fix their render pipeline for them as well as help them integrate stuff like DLSS for their games. AMD tried to do it but they do not have the same budget and can't afford it really.

>>723950168
the switch is real keen on showing the real time on an in-game clock, but that's it. no gameplay mechanics or actual changes to the time of day in-game

>>723957581
Pretty much every game was written in assembly up to the mid 90s

>>723953591
>look at the smoke! how cool!
>look at this box with no interaction unless i step on it, how lame
which is it?

>>723961317
I guess it's the shift in the industry. Then almost everything was tailor made for your game while now you can buy an asset with half dozen textures for normals, albedo, roughness, reflections etc and slap that in your game.
Also temporal anti aliasing solutions have issues with very thin pixels and might delete them from a scene. If you ever played a modern unreal game with rain you might know what I'm talking about.

>>723957451
>has a 3d camera mod that works great because of how flawless the visuals are
still blows my mind

>>723961597
oh, developers don't want grated floors to look invisible at a distance?

>>723961112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUHRJ26gMGI

>>723960821
i hate that i am an adult when everything is getting worse. i was born too late or too early, idk which

>>723961759
>6 year old tech demo
this is /v/ not /g/, retard. post a video game or fuck off

>>723960821
Another case of a low resolution highly compressed jpg used as a comparison image. Sad.

>>723961317
Because it looks like shit with upscaling and the faggy antialising they use these days. Not sure what the other replies were on about

UPCOM ACTIVATED

>>723962024
Coping and likely blind retard

>>723962024
the comparison being made would be still be achieved with half the resolution

>>723960605
Does it have a single player?

>>723962279
press the 'put your lips down here' button

Offline mode

>>723962450
>in development voxel mod
>'lost technology'

>>723962450
that's cool. i've only seen voxels rendered like this in ace of spades

>>723956606
>anon the tranny fucker

>>723962342
It benefits the game with less fidelity more relatively.
If you look at something closer to actual resolutions people play at, the game looks good but it also looks closer to its age. Smudging it to shit hides its lower fidelity.

>>723961328
Odds are it'll have less interactivity and actual neat tech but the NPCs will run around on a pattern and you can watch TV or some shit.
Meanwhile, mirrors won't work.

>>723962647
we're not comparing fidelity. no amount of fidelity will justify a previously realistic see-through and shoot-through texture being downgraded to some nonsensical placeholder pattern

>>723961328
Rockstar has always been a showoff so yeah.

>>723962647
the point was the grate not being see through you mouthbreathing retard

>>723949065
I'm dizzy

>>723947962
they can't. they forgot how to do it

>>723946465
this is looks like your average World of Tanks match

>>723962450
Holy fuck I need this in my life

I recently finished the game again using a voxel mod and it looked great but this is next level stuff, we're living in the future

>>723946183 (OP)
i was literally taking a shower and thinking about this webm. with 3000+ developers, what are the odds that GTA 6 implements something like this?
would zoomies praise it for being revolutionary, not knowing that a 40 year old game already did it first

>>723963465
>>723962597

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=429onRO-HRY

>>723954159
Fear's benchmark has you go through their water render as part of the test, so good.

>>723963679
I've already played something similar to this
>>723962450
Is something else

>>723963567
look how they are amazed by the 3 lens flare in GTA5.

>>723961328
GTA 6 will have fuck all technology. GTA 5 didn't break any new ground in that department.

>DOLBY DIGITAL 7.1 WITH 29 speakers!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6ng_bGozSo
>lol A3D with stereo

>>723947337
Dying Light: The Beast lets you cut off arms, legs, and heads, split open heads, cut open torsos and split torsos in half horizontally and diagonally.
zombies can't attack with their cut off limbs, and without legs they will crawl on the ground.

>>723961563
Modern games have neither.

>old technology: good
>new technology: bad

>>723956332
>>723956486

Gta 4s guns sounds were vastly superior to 5's because they actually used a pro studio to record each weapon at different distances inside and outside

>>723964708
V's guns felt and sounded like airsoft, with an impact to match. Such a downgrade, especially since they had the first Red Dead Redemption to build off with its brilliant physics.

>>723964708
pd2 used to have that too

>>723956009
Because Crysis was made for PCs. Nowadays everything has to run on consoles, including the fucking Switch, which have the power of a toaster in comparison.

>>723956009
framerate and muh optimization tards changed the landscape of gaming

>>723956152
If they're so good, why haven't they topped it in 20 years?

>>723962868
>>723964114
No chance. The opposite of what you say actually. I've intensely followed it's development including huge leaks in detail. Feel free to screenshot this.

>>723964708
which game has the most realistic gun sound simulation? i don't want studio recordings, i want physical modeling through synthesizers

>>723965662
Red Orchestra 2

>>723947337
i wonder if gibs weren't some way to save resources, like, instead of having to keep rendering an entire corpse, just render four low res meatballs

>>723947398
I bought RDR2 because a guy cuts wood

>>723951824
Exactly, hope he becomes a better man

>>723965662
Why would you prefer synthesizers to the real thing? I bet you jerk to A.I porn too

>>723965956
another example of how restriction fosters creativity

>>723965872
>Red Orchestra 2
doesn't sound simulated to me. just more repeating gun shots for the machine guns

>>723949065
Makes sense actually

>>723966178
synthesized sound effects in general would be a very nice technology in games. it solves the problems of "seams" in sounds that repeat. i don't want to hear the exact same gunshot recording each time i fire a gun in succession

>>723965662
Squad
BF3 with war tapes
Escape From Tarkov

>>723947398
>All this stupid shit to horse shitting script yet no hardcore mode with realistic reload time to incentives accuracy and carrying multiple guns.

>>723947398
Why is rockstar keep doing this? GTA V also has pointless detail for wildlife that no one has ever bothered to appreciate while half assing their NPC like policeman shooting at your head 40 feet from the ground inside an attack helicopter with a handgun.

>>723966959
>mountain lions calling the cops on you in the middle of nowhere

>>723966959
Look, on twitter, they are amazed because the dancing pole in GTA 6 is covered with finger prints.

>>723967119
What about pussy juice and titty sweat?

>>723952079
>>723956295
>>723956446
>>723956889
>>723961319
>>723963061
i know a lot of you are actually retarded but every reply being monkey tier IQ is shocking. i don't even know anymore if it's third worlders, or people are getting dumber over time.

>>723946183 (OP)

Nobody ever shows off after doing this, you can shoot a shocker grenade on the wet floor and incapacitate any soldiers standing on it.

>>723966959
>like policeman shooting at your head 40 feet from the ground inside an attack helicopter with a handgun
Robocop AI is only really a thing online, and it's to make it harder to grind missions solo in private sessions because Rockstar are money-grubbing kikes who want every last penny you have.

>>723967415
>i don't even know anymore if it's third worlders, or people are getting dumber over time.
You just said the same thing twice.

>>723967816
first world white youth becoming more retarded from microplastics and corn syrup is a different issue entirely

>>723965662
Arma 3 is a strong contender.
Shooting a medium machine gun inside some hut was actually painful to my ears.

>>723946183 (OP)
clear visuals in general
everything is now a blurry foggy smear

photorealism killed graphics

>>723968058
it's too bad arma 3 AI is dogshit and there are no real indoor areas, just building props that AI can't navigate through

White men making video games

>>723947598
Is that why games like Mortal Kombat are gorier than ever now?

>>723955552
>availiable

>>723968768
and also
>mangagement

>>723946183 (OP)
that's not how water works, as the water level goes down so should the speed of the water stream through the hole making it go less further as the water tank drains, this is as bad as not having that feature at all imo

>>723968432
>"White"
>jeetstar india highest employee count by large margin

>>723969305
read the op again

>>723962279
what's upcom

>>723968447
yes, zoomers are the audience now

>>723963636
Man i loved this game so much, that steam release was so soul crushing, i wish they could just release the fucking ww2 based game again.
This ran on a browser btw, brown and tranny devs today could never..

>>723947398
i mean this is why rdr2 too 8 fucking years to develop

Most modern engines are just inherently ugly.
Good graphics have never looked so bad.

>>723970065
Worth it. All the fagots screeching at these webms got filtered.

>variable rate melting ice cubes based on their proximity to each other and other cold things
>ON THE FUCKING PS2
ever since Kojima died, we don't get TECHNOLOGY moments like this anymore.

>>723969305
I meant it was bad that all the white people are being forced out of game development

>>723969871
>This ran on a browser btw
did it? i don't remember that being the case. the only thing you did on their website was use the server list

>>723961317
Honestly, betting that most AAA devs, especially the bigger ones, are being pushed/encouraged/incentivized by software/hardware companies to push newer rendering technologies as much as they possibly could.
It could also be that the pipelines for new rendering tech doesn't play nicely with a lot of older techniques, and that some cases (like optional raytracing) would add a lot of additional work.

Also, the scale of AAA games have increased dramatically, and many devs no longer have the EXTRA time or budget to experiment with "lost tech". It's a sad state of affairs.

>>723970162
jej

>>723946183 (OP)
This is incredible.

>>723947337
Left 4 Dead had the best and most interesting gore of any game ever, and didn't even get into the torture porn area. It was just highly reactive. But no game since has even tried, I don't get it.

>>723970223
i highly doubt that the alpha channel is considered obscure in the bleeding edge graphics technology. they use it all the time for rendering trees, since they don't model each individual leaf i hope

all splinter cell games were made in custom unreal engine 2.5
is it hard to replicate this in normal unreal engine?
can you access something like bullet decal z position on the mesh or was it achieved by stacking small triggers?

>>723949065
>all these replies
Do brown people not have little physics puzzles/toys with strange solutions that teach you things?

>>723958102
Sturgis....had a hard morning...

>>723970635
>i hope

>>723970205
Now you made me think, i can't remember for sure, but i think your're right, downloaded a very small installer and the server list
But i do have memories of being a browser game very early on and not having any installers, maybe i miss remember it.

>>723961328
No doubt it will have some scripted TECHNOLOGY moments for people to record and share on twitter or tiktok or whatever, but as far as anything actually interesting, I really doubt it.

>full 3D physics based destruction of buildings, terrain, etc
Games used to do this 30 fucking years ago, why isn't destruction in modern games?

>>723969305
saar

>>723964397
Don't forget to use DSOAL to force HTRF in directsound games.

>>723958102
He's just holding a sneeze, I can tell

>>723965025
They had fucking Max Payne 3 to build off of!

>>723970162
That's a neat attention to detail, but it's by no means anything impressive technology wise

>>723971868
the physics in this game was a meme and complete dogshit in general, the game barely even utilized it, too. red faction guerilla on the other hand did it well, even though there was no terraforming

>>723970151
>I've lived long enough to see fucking AC Unity as an example of good technology

>>723946183 (OP)
>lost technology
>everything posted is neither lost, or technology, just random neat effects added by a dev in his spare time
These threads fucking suck.

>physx

They removed 32bit support. Others still work, for now.
But i didnt buy a 5000 because they overall suck ass. Got me a 4080s instead.

>>723971581
kino browser games are definitely a lost technology either way. now it's just low effort unity garbage exported to html5

>>723972967
it always looked impressive. out of all the game's problems, visuals were never an issue

>>723972967
RETVRN

>>723972967
zoomer

physx is better and much more impressive than raytracing

>>723973356
Borderlands 2 still crashes with PhysX on my old ass 980
>inb4 grandpa tier card
It should still be strong enough. BL2 was a PS3/360 game

the water in serious sam hd is pure sex

>>723949916
what stops amd to add it to their cards, with 32bit support, to flex on jewvidia?
>besided stupidity

>>723974405
lol really? i had a 550ti and i played bl2 with physx and i can't remember it ever crashing

>>723974552
monetary incentive

>>723974552
it was proprietary, so reverse engineering it legally would take a lot of resources. plus no games develop with it anymore so no point

>>723974830
>plus no games develop with it anymore so no point
ah right

>>723966198
in what way was creativity fostered by this?

>>723957857
And a top tier CPU and a 8800GTS couldn't hit 40fps at sub 1080p at max settings.

>>723968010
the root cause is very much the same:
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>>723969694
the computer in Captain Blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeNKepH2ut4&t=5m

>>723971868
THE FINALS is the last bastion of decent destruction physics in modern gaming and it makes me want to hit silicon valley with a dirty bomb

>>723976667
He's a retard who's never done any artistic or coding related work in his life and is spouting a meaningless platitude as a way to make himself feel better for having 12 year old computer hardware that can't run modern games. It's very common with the thirdies infesting /v/.

>lost technology
soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw8zyKdyQsQ

>>723970162

So the game is good because it has horse cock in it? Ask me how I know youre gay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HZvjHq-qUg
Was the Legion system based or cringe?

>>723970162
the comment is very very misleading. i think they forget the MASSIVE and i mean MASSIVE marketing campaigns they do by buying tons of billboards, comissioning murals and other gigantic advertisment campaigns, buying adspace literally everywhere. they know the normies will gobble it up through this elevated word of mouth.

i think people tend to forget that. i remember when the Fallout show came out i was being bombarded with advertisements running to the train. the most bland shit ever, but retards watched it anyway.

>>723978895
GTA 6 will be at the same level as The Minions.

>>723946196
I still boot up the original Dead Rising to fuck around the mall and toy with the physics and zombies. What a truly solvful game.

>>723974541
Planar reflection... my beloved

>>723960821
I'm guessing that's because taa can't into transparency without dithering
I don't know much about this subject tho
Wtf happened to sgssaa bros???

>>723950106
>No technology to spank it
Miss me with this gay shit

>>723979231
>sgssaa
Isn't it a windows + nvidia only thing?

>>723946196
>SAAAAAAR! DELETE THISSSSS!!!!1!1!1!1!!1!1
>I BEG YOU BLOODY BITCH!

>>723951414
Not gibs and people don't die like that

>>723968432
rocksaar

>>723956009
It doesn't, blind retard.

>>723953726
>knife clips into body
Just like real life

>>723956606
>Anon the cocksucker

>>723962401
People used to say 'I prefer console gaming its so much quicker and easier'

>>723958102
He clearly had jet for breakfast

>>723946183 (OP)
Why is this cool but RDR horse balls retarded?

>>723982587
here your AAA game from 2025

>>723983076
>disingenuous retard
Concession accepted.

>>723946465
What is lost about this?

>>723983071
Everyone will see that fish tank as they play through the mission. Only a small number of degenerates will spend any time staring at horse balls.

>>723971064
They probably know those, they just can't mentally process this, lmao. Remember, these are the types that can't conjure up an apple in their mind.

>>723962450
This sort of tech would make Daggerfall pretty cool.
You remember that AI generated game meme about walking to a wizard castle in the distance?
This would also work for that type of thing.

>>723979775
>Actual subhuman posting /v/
Woah

Kino

>>723965485
I think he means google the demographics of the dev teams

>>723964473
That's not even the beast, that's 2 which has worse gore than TB lol.

>>723946196
I don't have a webm or even a pic on my device but Hitman Blood Money has a level where you have both a working elevator and real mirrors/reflections at the same time.

>>723947337
>>723948819
>>723947598
>>723970521

Dead Island 2

>>723953726
>>723980160
Only the shotgun blast has gore it seems, blew his leg off. Also the first shot to the face looks like an actual model change instead of decals.

>>723972389
Neither is literally anything else in those old video game webms. It's just DEVs putting in extra work. None of that is "lost technology". Any DEV today could and probably would do more of this shit if they were allowed.

>>723962390
It's long been shut down anon, sorry.

>>723985665
Too bad it was a shit game, probably made by autistic retards like yourself.
>oooh but the horse balls shrink in water
You should be put down like an animal.

>>723966451
>i don't want to hear the exact same gunshot recording each time i fire a gun in succession
Anon you can look at it from a game design perspective too: when you hear a certain gun sound you know what you're up against and can adapt to it, as opposed to a realistic BANG.
That being said now I'm curious to know if there are games that exist with what you have in mind.

>>723965662
ArmA3

>>723965662
STALKER with mods.

>>723986210
for competitive games it's good to have distinct sounds. i'm a sim chad though

>>723986117
>more details is le bad
who the fuck can possibly think like this ? a soulless person that's who

>>723986457
>sim chad
It's also sampled sounds in ARMA?
I was going to suggest PR earlier but withdrew because it was an incorrect answer. I do like the devs' foresight to have different gun sounds for indoor and outdoor shooting.

>>723986560
RDR2 is the perfect example of everything wrong with modern video games.

>>723972967
ACU was impressive when it released. Just so badly optimised and buggy that barley anyone could play it on ultra. Even two SLI Titans couldn't run it fluently. The game needed another year or so of dev time.

>>723946285
Hawken, my lost love...

>>723961918
yakuza 6 has this same exact effect used in combat. it's cookie cutter.

>>723986841
>It's also sampled sounds in ARMA?
yes i don't know a single game that synthesizes the sounds. the most advanced things right now are cutting the samples into sections so you can influence the transient and tails of a gun sample using environment effects

>>723987548
It was an unplayable piece of shit, literally impossible to finish at launch and possibly the first AAA game to be shamelessly released unfinished and to need huge +15GB patches just to be playable from start to finish.
It destroyed the reputation of the AC brand to the point even the normie Ubislop audience turned their backs on them, with Syndicate underperforming so bad they had to turn the franchise into Witcher 3 clones of all things.
And that's not counting the shit optimization - on which you're right. Seeing it posted here in this thread with this topic, years of updates later, it's ridiculous. Gamers have 0 memory.

>>723955846
There's a documentary about the original Elite on youtube. It's kinda amazing what they were able to achieve in a ridiculously small space. It first came out in 1984.

>>723946196
>>723946285
gaming was just truly better back then

if only we could get 6th gen games with all of its tech and just modern resolutions. and none of the politics

>>723983076
this is Z-A?

>>723962450
>>723984437
Yeah that's basically the viral AI meme slop but they're using normal 3d for the levels. For distant objects you'd need a bunch of LoDs and some good blending between them.

>>723964397
I don't know what it's called but Rainbow Six Siege had some cool sound tech. Shame Ubi had to ruin that game.

>>723950936
it almost had 256
tim sweeney is the reason it doesn't kek

>>723985665
>>723986560
God I hope they get rid of this stupid sluggish Euphoriashit in the 6. It doesn't feel good to move around as Arthur or in GTA5. Just give the player slightly more control and it willll feel a million times better.

>>723974552
Yeah wow what a flex lmao

>>723988771
I had a GTX 760 at the time and I played it fine. It wasn't well optimised, but you could play it - with minimal bugs, even, if you were lucky. It's been a bit, but I think the worst thing I saw somewhat often was floating npcs.
I remember suffering a bit to get it to run at at least a consistent 30 fps, which was kind of shit, good graphics or no. But I did play it.
The crowds were and still are fucking impressive.

>>723970065
There are plenty of games taking that long with nowhere near the amount of effort put into it. Just face the facts that Rockstar is a cut above all other developers.

>>723947337
Killing floor 2

>>723946196
I still don't understand what the point of this fucking remake was.

>>723983076
Modern Pokemon fans are so fucking pathetic

>>723982587
oh hohoho oooh no no no, ahhahaha!

>>723995332
11 years old game

>>723970151
>what is fixed time of day/lightning with a shit ton of GBs of baked in shadow data
Doom devs explained that they would've needed 400gb+ for that alone in their shitty new game. leave it to /v/ to be the most tech illiterate cesspool of retards on the face of the planet.

>beta ver
>on lowest settings
There isn't even a point to engage disingenuous subhumans like you.

>>723946285
This game wasn't really fun but boy was it pretty and ran like butter

>>723947398
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but Zelda: Majora's Mask had something similar to this.

>>723998209
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but nobody gives a fuck what Nintendo fags have to say

>>723957729
I miss when games used to offer sandboxes like this where you could just wade into a large battle in any number of ways, with vehicles or other troops supporting you or just sneaking off and fighting off on a flank somewhere. It added a ton of replayability to the levels. Earlier Halo titles also did a good job of this.

Everything nowadays is either narrow corridor-levels of scripted linearity, or some facimile of the "Ubisoft open world"... there's a grey area in between those two extremes that singleplayer games just don't seem to have anymore, at least AAA titles.

>>723947398
shenmue did this in 1999

>>723947598
millenial games had tons of gibs, what are you even on about

>>723999163
The "Zoomers" literally seem to think that "Millennials" were born in the 2000s.

I would seriously like to go back to mid 00s visuals if it meant having this sort of detail and working mirrors again.

>>723969719
What are you on about, MK 1 cucked out on gore big time it was a notable downgrade from X and 11

>>723999248
Yeah I guess so.
The 'woke' / sensitive generation definitely has nothing to do with millenials.
We're just cringe.

>>723999061
And shenmue was originally developed for the sega saturn.

>>723950106
the twatter would have a meltdown over a developer (whether it be AAA or indie) so much is DARING to put a bone, lett alone a jiggle bone on a model in that region
they'd decompile a model and use that as an excuse to smear the dev

>>723999061
look how many people were amazed by the footprints in the snow in RDR2, and you know it's not really about technologies but praising who's popular at a given time.

>>723963636
Look at these filthy Blues destroying our proud fortifications.

I am not an atomic playboy

>>723999890
Mindblowing to think shenmue 1 and 2 were ultimately ports rather than built from the ground up for the dreamcast.

https://youtu.be/foZUcPQAMvg

>>723999256
Going back to mid-00s' graphics would honestly be an UPGRADE at this point. People don't really realize how fuzzy and unstable the modern vidya visuals are, until they go and play ye olde games with pixel-perfect, forward rendered frames, with real AA, sharp lighting, some actual colors, and insanely high framerate.

>>724001589
Really? I thought they had to start from scratch.

>>724001894
sovl

not many games where you car can get sliced in two.

>>724001981
The had to redo the graphics engine because the dreamcast has a completely diferent architecture to the saturn, and revamped the textures, but mostly retained the geometry, effects and the animations.

https://youtu.be/uJkNMevGiLI?si=jL3k4FPy3-MnLS43

>>724001894
The loss of MSAA was a fucking tragedy, every time I boot up and old game I haven't played now I am treated to crisp clean sharp visuals and high framerates. I finally get to see all the cool stuff I missed out on as a kid. So many of these games just have cool tech in them that modern games do not.

cool but stupid controllers.

>>723946196
How is this achieved? Another room with model that mimics your movement?

>>723951414
>reddit man
pass

>>723954159
hell movable lamps that you can also shoot out is gone too

>>723960202
>>723961759
Baked VFX =/= real time physics VFX

>>723953726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KiDwRIz3aA

>>723999163
games exist because of the developers, not the audience
it's always incredibly cringey when millennials try to take credit for the games they played as kids (made by gen x and boomers) and then say the games their generation made are total dogshit and blame it on zoomers who were kids at the time
now that zoomers are finally old enough to start making indie games (AAA nepobaby millennials only hire niggers and women) video games are finally improving again

>>723960327
kek

>>723956606
>I will use le bad word, that will give more authenticity to my falseflag :)

>>723957451
I'm fine with games looking dated, but not with games looking dated AND running like shit

>>724004080
WTF?

>>723958560
wat

>>723964473
still gets mogged by L4D's body damage

>>723947598
IP ban israel and the quality of this website improves tenfold.

>>723964708
I fucking hate how some games record automatic weapons shooting constantly, so when you fire just one round it blatantly sounds like the full-auto audio clip being cut-off

>>723957204
you don't know shit about agile

>>723970151
Too bad they decided to shit all over Unity with that blue filter

>>723984613
dafuq was it

>>724004950
Lmao you straight up invented some narrative that millenial devs removed gore and now are doubling down on it like it's real.

>>724002306
MGR I guess

>>723972967
It was actually one of the best looking games Ubisoft shat out att, it was just hilariously buggy with its disappearing faces and such,

>>724004539
doesnt look like something that'll export to a game engine

>>724006169
you're replying to my first post in the thread

>>724005761
That game's gore effects on the zomibes are incredible as are Killing Floor's kinda nuts those just peaked there

I unironically want to kill every single fucking zoomer and graphics fag. Bunch of actual mouthbreathing retards.

>>724004767
the fact that DMM is closed source is the bane of destruction physics in games

>>724004134
Yes, it's not hard. Portal would spawn these extra rooms wherever you'd place them. It just took devs that cared

>>723947398
This requires coding, coding that jeets dont understand, so instead baby engine made everything a simulation.

>>724004767
You play games with that aspect ratio?

>>723947880
i bet glass makes the bullet lose a lot of momentum

>>723966403
Saar please upgrade to RTX5090 pro saar
I can bring you none of these features saar but you will not need them
I have modeled every brick using 10bn polygons saar
And I went into settings and put "RTX = true" saar
It is the most visual game ever saar and you will get 36 fps unstable saar
It is peak gaming saar please redeem it

>>724006287
It absolutely can.

>>723955552
I think only the Dreamcast version had working mirrors.

>>723946183 (OP)
How Netflixy is the Splinter Cell show?

>>723970162
>/v/ will shit their pants over horsecock that they salivate over
extremely gay ngl

>>723966403
Sharp and Dark just like my metal.

>>724001894
>insanely high framerate.
sure grandpa now try doing that again except without an RTX5080 but with the graphics cards of that specific time period. FEAR ran like total shit on anything but the highest end cards when it came out

>>723947398
Ok, he's adding an extra layer of decking, I see. And why did he cut 8 inches off his 2x8? He's fucking just tossing down random wood, why did he cut that piece to that specific length?

>>723976806
Yeah, nostalgiafags always forget that.

>>724007002
lmao ok no-dev

>>724006304
Prey (2017) had those.

>>724006737
saar please do not insult the native resolution of my people saar

>>724008063
what kind mipmapping hell am i watching

>>723971064
are you fucking retarded yourself? non-white people invented them and hawked them to white travelers to take back home, it was sort of a major fucking part of your so called ethnic history- yknow being rich enough to travel the world and collect oddities. Unless of course youre not as white as you might claim

Fully emulating games within the game.

https://youtu.be/BwRcbOhn2Nk

>>724005461
PVKK devs spent time making a physical version of their game to take into events instead of developing the game to finish.

>>724004767
what the fuck is with devs creating brand new tech then using it once and never again

>>723964708
I wonder just how much effort would have to go into making it so that sound simulation was also a part of the game/physics engine.
Essentially, instead of having a bunch of sound files, you'd be able to set certain values for objects and materials to give off, by default or when interacted with, that the engine would then translate into audible frequencies while also being able to take into account the environment the sound was being produced in.

>>724001894
I wonder what it would take to make Unity or Unreal look this good. Unity at least has some sort of customizable rendering which probably could do it.

>>724007440
>giga high-end price
>$350
kek
>wait 2 years
>mid-high tier card
>$150

oh noooo noooo, bros it was le nostialgia these zoomers are right xD! also lets not forget 90% of the genres are dead, hey whens the next Sim City? Oh doesn't exist because it's all engine garbage and people don't know how to coode?

Welp better call India, we need to poop up those hi-def grafffixxxx

>>723964708
Im a little schocked they didnt just reuse the sounds for V and the Red Deads but considering its Rockstar and they almost never re-use assets with their unlimited budget and infinite scope/dev time not really.

>>724004080
>webm
https://youtu.be/0UlyyOTqelA

>>724008289
Doom Eternal

>>723961251

They figure gamers are ok with slop and don't need nice things.

>>723998428
zoomers finna get lost if they aren't on rails

>>724004950
trvthnvke

>>724007916
that was a decade ago

>>723954159
Unironically, iirc the sewers of Daikatana had a segment which did water caustics like this with prebaked lighting and textures.
Fucking Daikatana!

>>724008063
looks like retroslop trying to mimic ps1 graphics

>>724009660
>>723954159
>>723954250

easy with the antisemitism ok? it's all nostalgia

>>724008254
non white people couldn't even invent a car ranjeet

>>723947398
Bethesda has been doing this shit since 2006.

>>723946196
Pathetic.

>>724007161
>/v/
But /v/ is the only place that will say anything negative about Rockstar.

>>723955008
>1993 3D
>more than 15fps
I still cant believe it

>>724008684
Call saul, faggot

>>724007916
>>724006304
I nevet got why these are supposed to be impressive.

>>724008063
Pretty sure it is a heavily modded gmod, I recognize those broken trucks and vans.

>>724011397
It's eemurrsiv. You're interacting with something that's an actual part of the world and not just a menu that pops up when you press the interact button on it.

>>723947598
kys zoomer
you’re scared of empty rooms

>>723969719
>zoomers are the audience
>troons aded
>women like men
>hags
>no fun allowed (babilities, friendship removed)

Yeah don't worry we can tell. the troons and e-faggots give it away

>>723957420
people talk about how small this game is but dont talk about how it inflates its size as you play

>>723997376
I don't know why, but I can just "tell" from simply looking at the bottom screenshot, that it runs poorly, and similarly just from looking at the screenshot of the top, that it runs fast.

With 2005 hardware, the top game is gunning at 60+ fps by default.

With 2025 hardware, the bottom game is gunning at 20-30fps by default.

>>723946183 (OP)
The sad part is that this stuff isn’t even hard to program. You just need someone with attention to detail

If you tried this in a modern corporate game your bosses would be like
>Erm, that is a low priority ticket, we will get around to it when we finish cybersecurity on the storefront page so nobody can pirate the battle pass
>(No programming experience) Woah that sounds really hard and a longer time to implement, nope!
>Your solution is not modular. What about the 500 other water tanks in our massive open world? What if the water tank falls over? Do it correctly or dont do it at all!
>Stay in your lane Rajesh! You are just a codemonkey, do as you are told! Design is handled by Eliza Lesbianstein’s team in California. Dont even bother emailing them they are having a donut nom day to celebrate ramadam

And the worst part is that 99.99% of the players will go
>Who cares, I just want my dopamine

>>723982587
That actually looks fucking fantastic. All you're doing is pointing out the low res textures here, but everything else looks practically modern, and low res textures can be resolved easily with a texture mod. It won't even affect performance as long as you've got the VRAM to handle it.

>>723973591
Baked lighting

it works well but it means the scene can't be dynamic; e.g. moving furniture, breaking windows, turning off lights

>>724007604
you sir are a retard dev in that case. retarded nigger monkey who can't even write his own compiler, nigger cattle.

>>723969694
these nuts

>>724011881
millennials demanded all of that. zoomers were not in their 20s yet

>>724004539
very nice rigging

>>724012117
Players notice. They might not notice it on a level where they can point it out. But if you add a lot of these little things into your game, players will just subconsciously recognize the game as a "high quality" game.
I know you might not give a lot of credit to modern gamers, but they still will recognize quality.

>>724008380
are they german

>>724012291
I'll give you moving furniture, but turning lights on and off or breaking windoes is trivial just by switching textures.

>>723963439
Not really, in WoT there would be a hundred artillery shells from across the map falling on him.

>>724012872
I think that is the case yeah.

>>724012467
for sure.. sorry whats the thing you zoomtards say...? finna bingunbangus on god? Anyways eat shit you have no culture and you killed gaming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAwWPadFsOA

Does anyone have the webm of splinter cell where the enemy sees you in the reflection and goes on alert?

>>724013227
>seething troonlennial

>>724012201
>sir a second blind retard has hit the thread

>>724012117
>(No programming experience) Woah that sounds really hard and a longer time to implement, nope!
This struck a nerve, man. I'd have a lot fewer premature grey hairs if I didn't work with PMs to whom software development wasn't indistinguishable from witchcraft.

>>724013227
this song takes me right back to the 90s

>>724004539
What porn game is this?

>>724013703
It’s funnier when they turn a five second fix into a 15 hour fix because in their head it sounded simpler

nooo its all nostolgia nooo gaming is better than ever

troon and lights pogpogpogpogchamp

>>723954159
Fear was a glorifed tech demo at the end of the day, just an awesome one.
You can't really do shit like that in modern times because you need to build games to be playable on the min requirements, which these days could mean something different to everyone.

>>723966342
yeah what are they on about?

>>723954531
Of course not, he wasn't even born when mythbustered aired.

>>724012332
lmao ok no-dev

>>723985665
yotei is a ghost and trained samurai ninja from nippon who pays dutiful respect to the lake's yokai kami, of course he would be able to walk on ice better than some stupid amerifat

>>723946196
I will never forget the capcom-hired dahlits who defended this shit for weeks on end leading up to release.

>>723946285
I really loved PhysX. I don't give a fuck if it isn't realistic.

>>723946465
If only there were a patch that adapts this to modern multi-core CPUs

>>723946183 (OP)
Mirrors perfectly imitating how they work in real life by just rendering the viewable scene twice.

>>723954159
Because they no longer spend time and effort on an effect with a one-time use

>>723946196
holy shit

>>723962450
Shame that the guy that developed this never continued to do anything with it

The cockroaches in Half-Life
FEAR's basic but well used AI
STALKER's A-life

Why can't we use the integrated AI chips in modern GPUs to be used as a way for NPCs to interact and react in modern games?

>>723950168
I probably played 300 hours pf MVC2 and I never once noticed the clock stage was displaying a real time

>>724001894
Ah, I remember the first time that I've managed to get this game to run this smooth

>>724004539
>tummy technology
noice

>>724017810
Please understand, we need those RT cores for making the game run half as fast but also generating 2.5x as many fake frames to compensate.

>>723947398
Why did he just drop the saw in fucking mud?!

>>724008274
I'm glad that this is still a thing

>>723947003
why is there a bbc sticking out the bottom of the screen?

>>724018310
Really a shame
It's been a very long time since I've felt truly amazed by a game

>>723953726
i mean its a realistic game with realistic gore, what do you expect? the shotgun can blow peoples legs off and shit

>>723967415
0% chance you get that webm any more than anyone else. people know what toplogy is, but that webm is universally unintuitive and if you say it's not you're just a fag pretending to be smarter than he is

Damn I love Splinter Cell. What's the best way to replay the original trilogy these days?

>>723965662
BF Bad Company and Bad Company 2, and the machine gun in days gone come to my mind.

>>723950106
her legs are just painted, right? she's not wearing pants

>>723950168
yeah this died for a good reason, its shit. most people play games around the same time every day so it just reduces the variety of gameplay you get to experience.

>>723946196
the loss of mirrors and reflective surfaces in general really gets to me.

i would have thought by now we would at least have water reflections perfected by now but water is still affected by culling of environment (look down in the water and the reflections disappear).
on top of that the water shaders now also look weird around edges of objects rendered in front of it, devs just look at this and say it's fine.

>>723964657
Go back

>>723962401
kek
reminds me, I was playing Dragon Quest VIII yesterday and it hit me how that game has no loading screens whatsoever. On the fucking PS2.

>>723946405
i tried my best playing the original but the clock got to me, after my fourth "the truth vanished" i gave up on the game.
won't play the demake, naturally. getting rid of erotica as a mechanic in photos is mind numbingly retarded.

>>723964589
that is fucking cool, i need to replay this game

>>723946465
The final game looks this good, but it looked even better before release.

>>723947754
that's beautiful

>>724012117
this raised my blood pressure

>>724001894
you dont even get dynamic lighting like that from gunfire nowadays lol

>>723950168
Metro 2033. Arty's old watch would line up with whatever the time was on your console. Least that was the case for the 360 version that I played.

>>723955008
No Man's Sky is getting there

>>724004134
Nah, that's N64 technology.
In games like this, it's a second camera, and the mirror reads that camera's output as its color.
It gets more complicated with modern graphics, where the screen is actually rendered as several different passes for things like ambient occlusion, which is why developers don't even bother.

why was the kingdom come deliverance beta the last time we ever saw photorealistic forests?

>>723946465
it always annoyed me how sourgrapesfags wrote off crysis as just being pretty graphics and nothing else. The game was fun as fuck. Dynamic destructible environments, cool abilities that let you be the goddamn Predator, open-ended sandbox levels that let you come up with your own ideas on how to tackle situations.

One of the most fun things I remember from this game was getting ambushed by a bunch of tanks in one of the gook villages, and loading trucks with fuel drums, driving full speed into the tanks, and jumping out at the last second before impact.

>>723946183 (OP)
the lighting effects and shadow in Splinter Cell were so damn mindblowing the first time I saw it. Imagine seeing something like Cyberpunk 2077 on max settings but in like 2004. Holy shit.

>>724008289
Just about every Yakuza game still does this. Old SEGA arcade games just like Shenmue, too

>>723964589
played the trilogy recently arkham asylum having little puffballs of physics then getting to arkham knight having clean smooth smoke physics and that was only a 6 year difference

>>724020234
Why? Too much to compute?

>Star Wars Galaxies
>MMO
>Let you build housing sandbox style on the overworld map

Literally impossible for a MMO to do today.

>>723962450
Love the window reflections.

>>724012029
You're correct. Wilds runs on RE Engine which is fine in the recent RE games, but open world stuff like Wilds is fucking AIDS.

>>724021743
Believe it or not it worked fine in DD2, aside from an issue with their npc coding. I don't know what they did to fuck it up in MH6 but it's impressively bad.