Thread 723950489

Does it still hold up on 25

>>723950489 (OP)
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>>723950489 (OP)
It didn't even hold up in 2011. Are you retarded?

>>723950489 (OP)
it's cozy, just get rid of the puke filter and it's fine imo

>>723950489 (OP)
Shallow and repetitive then and now.

It was one of those games were if you got into it you would really enjoy it, but actually it was kind of crap.

It was artificially kept alive with porn mods.

Skyrim is one of the games of all time

>>723950489 (OP)
Yes

>>723951128
the world has proven you wrong

I am thinking of replaying it with one of those 3000 mods modpacks.

>>723951528
People bitch about Wabbajack lists but who has time to make and config your own list these days.

It's definitely dated, but it provides a type of open world experience (something not everyone likes of course) in a way nobody else has really done yet.

it's the best open world VR RPG that will ever exist

>>723950489 (OP)
It didn't even hold up on release day.

>>723951808
The open world is something I'm absolutely sick of in games in general and which only works in TES. I'm sure I'm forgetting an exception or two but basically everybody wanted to rip that off of TES and shouldn't have.

>>723950489 (OP)
No. I loved Morrowind and Oblivion and Skyrim is total shit that didn't build upon everything that made the past 2 games great. Normalfags love it because "YOU CAN DO ANYTHING"

>>723950489 (OP)
Vanilla skyrim didn't hold up in 11

>>723951446
>muh feels argument
Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle

vanilla rimjob has awful ui

>>723951593
Building your own mod list is unironically more enjoyable than actually playing the game.
I don't even say this as a slight against the game; working on and tweaking your game to get it just right hits that inherent passion that every man with a hobby should be able to understand.

>>723951897
>be the one person in friend group who has no interest in Skyrim
>everyone always talking about Skyrim since it's all they're playing when hanging out
>go into work
>monthly touch-base one-on-one meeting with the boss
>He asks if you played Skyrim, and largely wants to talk about it in your monthly meeting
This game will forever be stuck in my brain because of that shit.

>>723950489 (OP)
Yeah.

>>723952017
True
watching it all come together gradually is extremely gratifying
and then there's a showstopper bug that kills the entire modlist 20 hours in that is impossible to resolve

>>723952145
I wish I worked with people that talked about skyrim all day, I want to talk about lorerim

>>723952227
The people he's talking about did not have any interest in the lore, certainly not beyond surface elements.

>>723952282
but muh muarta...

>>723951018
wtf is wrong with this water? straight outta oblivion

>>723950489 (OP)
>Skyrim
>2011 OG Version
>Whiterun
>no mods
HOME

>>723951018
>get rid of the puke
how? the blurriness and especially that odd day/sun lighting is driving me mad
when I get rid of everything the game became dry and washed,

>>723950489 (OP)
I'd sooner play the original Xbox version of Morrowind or even the DOS version of Daggerfall than this shallow boring shit again

>>723952439
just dont play the fucked up SE version. The Papyrus scripting is still fucked to these days. Less NPC chatter (even some aren't played at all(, many music tracks of the soundtrack aren't triggered, etc.

'Skyrim: Extended Cut' is still going to release and fix the terrible storyline for the vanilla game.
Trust the plan, brothers. It's NOT vaporware. Just hold out a little longer....

>>723952661
Forgot to attach image. But hope remains.

>>723952645
are you talking about the 1.6.1170+ update?
cuz that's the first version I played

>>723952908
The scripting was always fucked up in the SE version. No matter if at release or now. They never fixed it.
To many random dialogues, music or even random events in the wilderness aren't triggered.

>>723952947
Todd is that you? are telling me to buy the anniversary edition?

>>723951593
Only modders bitch about Wabbajack because they want full credits for their improved candle mesh mod.
For me, after already having spent years tweaking my own mods and patching endlessly only to end up barely playing, Wabbajack lists actually make me want to play the result instead.
And with Nexus lifetime premium downloading new packs is easy enough.

>>723953345
>Nexus lifetime premium
good goy

>>723950489 (OP)
It didn't hold up back when it released.

>>723953242
The AE is the SE just with additional stuff. But still fucked up

>>723953410
sure buddy

>>723953739
>Literally less polygons than Oblivion or FO3
>Most abysmal dogshit artstyle that has not held up at all
>Objectively worse mechanics in most ways to older titles

>>723950489 (OP)
It holds up. Especially the PS3 version

>>723952439
There are some mods that remove post processing effects from the game, or you can use ENB/community shaders. Pic is vanilla + nat.cs

>>723950489 (OP)
am I hallucinating or did vanilla skyrim put a bounty on you just for bumping into a guard while sprinting

>>723954019
>>Literally less polygons than Oblivion or FO3
And still better looking models>>723954019
>>Most abysmal dogshit artstyle that has not held up at all
Are we talking about OG Oblivion and Fallout 3?>>723954019
>>Objectively worse mechanics in most ways to older titles
Melee combat is better than ever. Sneaking is also better. Only magic is shit.

kys

No

>>723954158
you are hallucinating

>>723953374
>didn't spend 40bux on it before they killed the lifetime package
sucks to be you with your slooooow downloads
or just make simple mods and get lifetime for hitting 10k total unique downloads, pretty easy to get it that way

The atmosphere from wandering around the overworld is unmatched, but I'm sure there isn't a single person on this planet who never grows bored of constant draugr dungeons.

>>723951973
not feels, facts
numbers don't lie
being a contrarian is not a substitute for a personality

nop

>>723952386
that's vanilla, you just insulted todd

>>723952425
Not my whiterun

>>723955336
This is nice. I'd love to play Skyrim that was significantly more lush.

>>723950489 (OP)
Yes, it's the second greatest game of all time behind TW3

>>723955239
This isn't Vanilla

>>723955336
this is the most retarded shit ever

>>723955336
>dude lets spam trees and make this place lush despite being located in a fucking tundra
Modders are a bunch of retards. Do you make Winterhold a tropical paradise too? Perhaps add some nice sandy beaches with palm trees outside of Windhelm?

>>723950612
It did, that's why it sold so well. Also ou were 3 when it released.

>>723955780
Why not?

>>723950489 (OP)
It's so braindead simple that if you want to play vanilla, play it on a handheld.
I played it on a Switch Lite and had tons of casual fun with it.

>>723955336
>>723955908
modding for the sake of modding. I hate modders so much.

>>723955908
Because it's supposed to be a desolate frozen hellscape and adding flora everywhere ruins that

>>723950489 (OP)
No none of my mods work together anymore because Todd kept updating the game to break them all

>>723955908
>>723955336
You may not like it, but this is what peak sovl looks like

>>723956119
sweaty, mods can fix that

>>723950489 (OP)
yes
skyrim is todd's masterpiece

>>723950489 (OP)
no

>>723950489 (OP)
its a game for kids, not mechanically refined in any way and will not be played in 10 years besides as a type of curiosity, there are games designed in strong fundamentals like chess or classic rts or even shooters that are designed around solid mechanics that can be replayed to infinity mastering your skills and then skirym type of slop that if you play it when you are 14 with lots of imagination you can actually get into it and enjoy it without noticing the obious lack of depth because you lack experience

>>723955908
can we add the gay pride month on skyrim, like theres a month were civilians dress like degenerates and hang trans and gay flags from the taverns

trash game on release, at least get Enderal

>>723952425
SOVL. Todd’s true vision
>>723955336
Soulless. A mod tranńy delusion

>>723950489 (OP)
I'm enjoying it. Roleplaying as an Altmer edgelord serial killer with a whole backstory and everything.

>>723952425
For me, it will always be Riften.

Have over 1000 hours in this which is a lot for me and never even looked at mods beyond a custom house to put all my shit in for one character. Worth doing on console?

>>723956119
I live in a frozen hellscape and it's filled to the brim with trees.

>>723955336
Why would you want more?

>>723950489 (OP)
Help me! What is this? Pokémon Legends Z?!

another day in Morthal.

>>723957305
Your frozen hellscape isn't anything like northern Skyrim which is perpetually frozen, with huge fuckoff glaciers everywhere. It's more like antartica than wherever you're from

>>723957403
>tranny modder
>small blue mountain fllower
>making it green and blue as fuck and big and lush
>in snow
WTF is wrong with modders? this here is a real mountain flower.

>>723957435
the lighting in SE is so fucked up

>>723957629
Only the very north is permafrozen like Antarctica. The Rift looks like any regular fall where I'm from.
I live in northern Norway, in Finnmark. Finnmarksvidda is a tundra and is frozen over half the year, yet it is lush with trees.
Antarctica is a desert, which Skyrim vanilla is far from.

All I'm arguing here is that Skyrim being lush is not unrealistic.

>>723956946
What about a middle ground?

>>723950489 (OP)
i remember playing morrowind and oblivion for literally 1000+ hours each. i got 20 hours into skyrim and realized i never had fun even once and dropped it. this was in 2011. i have gone back to this piece of shit every once and while over the last 14 fuckin years, and every time it's the same
>install 900 mods ot make the game not the worst bethesda game ever made
>change every single aspect of the game
>new ui
>new map
>new areas
>combat changes
>start game
>bored before the cart ride even ends
>install new start mod
>thrown into the game immediately
>start doing combat
>remember how fucking horrible it is
>look for combat mods
>it's all soul slop mods
>grunt and bear it
>play for an hour
>uninstall
i'll never understand how the legitimately worst game bethesda ever made, besides starfield, had universal praise when it was not only terrible for its own time, but aged like sour milk every day since then. ironically, when oblivion remastered came out, i dropped 300 hours into it again. oblivion is better in literally every single aspect.

>>723957653
Cry more and eat them

>mods for this game are now split across 3 (three) different versions
>said mods are a mix of 3 different supported versions, 1 supported version, abandoned and only strung along by community updates, or utterly abandoned all together
>even some of the most past popular mods suffer these fates
>all of this applies to the numerous compatibility patches, too
modding this game is a fucking nightmare nowadays

>>723958315
>1k hours in Morrowind and Oblivion
>But has a problem with Skyrim's combat, the best of the 3
???

>>723955336
Genuinely atrocious

>>723958667
Unless you are using some hyper-specific mods, most old mods have already been ported to SE or has a replacement available. Skyrim is also the easiest Bethesda game to mod, if you want compatibility patch nightmares, go mod Fallout 3.

Ingjard is fun, she hums while I am doing stuff.

>>723958781
melee combat in skyrim is so slow that by the time you could have killed 5 guys in oblivion, you were still on guy 1 because 2 handed weapons attack once a year. ranged combat in skyrim is stealth, because everything else the bow does it worthless. i won't bother with magic, because bethesda didn't.

>>723952947
Do you have examples? Because I've never heard anyone mention that before.

>>723958895
Power attacks with two-handers effortlessly flattens people.
Bows can easily be used outside of stealth, considering you can kill most enemies before they approach you
And magic is just infinite staggers.
Funny that you're complaining about shit taking too long to kill in Skyrim, but seem to have no problem with every attack missing in Morrowind. I can only assume you're doing something dumb like playing on Master or Legendary.

I like to play with a vanilla-plus mod loadout. That is:

>Upscaled/improved but not massively different textures
>Basic, non-skimpy armor overhauls and addons (Guards Armor Replacer, Immersive Armors, etc)
>More interesting weapons (Immersive Weapons, Unique Uniques, etc)
>Story/quest mods (Interesting NPCs, Helgen Reborn, Forgotten City, Project AHO, Carved Brink, plus a bunch of smaller quest mods)
>New lands mods (Falskaar, Wyrmstooth, Grey Cowl of Nocturnal, Moonpath to Elsweyr, etc)
>Companions (Inigo, Lucien, M'rissi, Auri, Vilja, Hoth, Remiel, etc)

People like to hate on Vilja, but she's the OG, she's still the best follower mod out there, and I will fight anyone who disagrees. Only downside, apart from the atrocious voice acting/mic quality for some of the side characters, is that I'm pretty sure Vilja's creator is Swedish, so Vilja makes a point of saying how she thinks black/white mixed race babies are cute (this is something you'll hear when you visit Dawnstar, where the the Nord smith and his Redguard wife are said to be having a baby soon.

>>723959281
morrowind was never mentioned in my combat analysis for good reason. it fucking sucks. but i'll take its magic system over anything skyrim has to offer any day of the week. same with oblivion. having access to 8 million spells, and a spell creators was the best thing about oblivion magic. skyrim lets you choose between a blue fireball, a red fireball, or funny beams.

>>723950489 (OP)
>can't even jump while sprinting
FUCK no this problem didn't even exist in Morrowind.

>>723959216
You have in NPC hotspots (like whiterun market) less chatter because some people were annoyed by it, but thanks to this tweak many scripts were broken and now the NPCs say less random quotes as in OG Skyrim (2011). Same goes for the music in the wilderness.
On top of that they also screwed up the scripts for random encounters in the wilderness. You have less variations in the SE compared to the OG version.

I downloaded 2011 just for fun last week and was baffled how much more variation is in the random chatter, music or encounters.

>>723959447
This has also to do with the updated engine of Fallout 4 that is used for the Special Edition.

>>723959427
>can only sprint going directly forward
>even a slight change in direction stops the sprint
todd howard's teem of fucking retards needed to be executed a long time ago.

>>723959368
>skyrim lets you choose between a blue fireball, a red fireball, or funny beams.
That's the magic in combat for all 3 games though? The difference is that you can't customise the effects of the balls and beams in Skyrim.

>>723956946
>SOVL. Todd’s true vision
this.

>>723957653
>has problems with a flower
>defends a fuckin forest town in the middle of the tubdra
Sorry anon, but I prefer it as it is

>>723954629
>>723955336
>>723955908
>>723956468
>>723961335
I don't mind modding, but Christ... A majority of people that mod don't have any aesthetic taste at all.

>>723954629
bro is playing as a draugr

>>723961651
Care to show us your "aesthetic taste". Curious what's you standard.

>wanna replay skyrim
>have to either spend the next 10 hours installing each mods and making sure everything works or download a 700gb modpack

>>723958315
>i'll never understand how bla bla
That's because you've not actually been giving the game a chance, you already decided to hate it long ago.

>>723958879
>she hums while I am doing stuff
let me guess, she is the stuff?

>>723950489 (OP)
No. At least get a mod to remove the stupid spinning death animation, the withered-looking faces, or something that fixes Soul Trap (e.g. GIST).

>>723950489 (OP)
What do you mean does it hold up? There aren't any newer games in it's genre to compare it to really.

>>723952345
>rin i'm so sorry

>>723962191
i havent played skyrim in a while but vanilla skyrim is best as evident by these images

>>723951412
>>723952425
>>723952723
>>723952978
>>723953326

Kill Paarthurnax.

>>723965228
You're about to get real acquainted with that table

>>723950489 (OP)
its not even a real rpg, try enderal

>>723950489 (OP)
Yes, I just finished a playthrough on my 360

>>723955336
I don't understand the hate here for this modded Whiterun. It's passable, with too much flora but not repulsive.

>>723966161
>I don't understand
because you're a brain-dead mongoloid

>>723955336
could look really good with proper lighting

>>723964996
>Vanilla is best
>2/5 are modded
Ok anon

>>723966359
none of them are modded btw

>>723966161
Personally I hate how it changes the architecture, it looks more like Solitude, the capital of an Empire Nation for hundreds of years, not a central trading huh with strong heritage and traditions.

They look cool but it's not Whiterun, it's a bunch of interesting buildings in the places buildings exist in Whiterun.

>>723950489 (OP)
no, there's a good reason why it's always modded.

>>723966446
This one: >>723952978 for example was taken from here:
https://meirogame.hatenablog.com/entry/2023/11/21/180000
Modded playthrough.

>>723950489 (OP)
Aged like a fine wine.

>>723950489 (OP)
May Wulfharth bless this thread.

Can the Anniversary Version still be considered vanilla?

>>723950489 (OP)
>still hold up
It was literally never good. That entire series is fucking shit.

>>723968717
If you disable all the CC garbage, then yeah.

>>723950489 (OP)
hard to believe this game is 25 years old soon

>>723968717
I don't even count the expansions as vanilla so no.

>>723969993
The gaming industry stagnated in the Xbox 360/PS3 generation

>>723969993
That's because it's yet to turn 15

>>723968717
if you're not playing LE 1.0 you're not a true nord

>>723950489 (OP)
Vanilla Skyrim felt outdated and ancient even when it came out

>>723968767
AE armors are cool though