Thread 723990875

This is blowing up on social media, is it accurate?

Most of these games never influenced anything of value, so no.

>>723990875 (OP)
cali poster. yes it's a good list

>>723990875 (OP)
no because most of these were outright copies or heavily influenced by other games

>>723990875 (OP)
It’s honestly pretty accurate. Dark souls deserves a spot but I don’t know who to bounce off the list for it

>>723990875 (OP)
>This is blowing up on social media
Nigger literally posted a screenshot of his fucking notepad what do you mean "this is blowing up"

Here, check out what else is blowing up (Real) (No fake)

>>723990875 (OP)
No MGS?

>>723990875 (OP)
Dark Souls should definitely have a place there by now

>>723990875 (OP)
Writing in your default windows Notepad to yourself is only social media for literal schizophrenics.

>>723990875 (OP)
What did melee influemce?

OoT is just 3D LttP.

Seems pretty much right, most of those have such mainstream reach they even got a movie, which vidya games usually don't.
I'd argue the list should also include Resident Evil and Doom (probably replacing CoD and Smash Bros, because WoW is THE MMORPG and definitely deserves its place in top 10)

Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere

>>723991667
>What did melee influemce?
Every pedo game made after it.

>>723991484
Shit souls belongs in the dumpster

>>723991702
Oot is proto rollslop

Halo should be on there
I don’t know if it was THE first but it kinda started the regenerating health mechanic in shooters

>>723990875 (OP)
1. The Legend of Zelda (1986)

Defined nonlinear exploration and item-based progression.

Laid the groundwork for open-world design, inventory-based adventure, and world interconnectivity.

Every major “exploration-first” game (Souls, Metroidvanias, BoTW, etc.) traces lineage here.

2. Super Metroid (1994)

Perfected atmospheric storytelling without dialogue.

Established the “Metroidvania” structure — map gating, backtracking, and spatial memory as core mechanics.

Its pacing and environmental storytelling directly shaped Hollow Knight, Ori, and Axiom Verge.

3. Rogue (1980)

The genesis of procedural generation and permadeath design.

Invented the “roguelike” genre — its DNA lives in Hades, Darkest Dungeon, FTL, and countless others.

4. Wizardry (1981)

The blueprint for Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

Introduced party-based dungeon crawling, first-person perspective, and turn-based combat systems.

Japan’s entire RPG boom stems from this.

5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998)

Codified 3D action-adventure mechanics: lock-on targeting, cinematic camera work, environmental puzzles.

The gold standard for 3D game design for nearly two decades.

Influenced Dark Souls, GTA III, and even God of War in structure.

>>723992064
6. Street Fighter II (1991)
Created the fighting game genre as we know it.
Competitive balance, combo systems, and arcade culture all exploded from this single title.
Its “versus” structure inspired PvP frameworks across genres.

7. StarCraft (1998)
Perfected real-time strategy esports and asymmetric faction design.
Cemented South Korea’s professional gaming scene.
Its balance philosophy still informs MOBA and RTS development.

8. Doom (1993)
Defined first-person shooters — modding, multiplayer deathmatch, and 3D engine tech.
Also laid the foundations for online gaming culture.
Its source code literally educated an entire generation of developers.

9. GoldenEye 007 (1997)
Revolutionized console FPS controls and local multiplayer.
Set the tone for cinematic first-person experiences (Halo, Call of Duty owe it everything).
Showed that a movie license could yield an enduring gameplay masterpiece.

10. Dragon Quest (1986)
Codified the Japanese RPG formula: overworld exploration, turn-based combat, and emotional storytelling.
Without it, there’s no Final Fantasy, Pokémon, or Persona.
Defined Japan’s cultural gaming identity.

>>723990875 (OP)
Kinda doubt it, but this is the sort of list that would really get the sub-100s raving.
They easily conflate one positive quality, with all other positives. So if a game reviews well, it must be popular, it must be of high quality, and it must be hugely influential - when none of these are mutually inclusive.

>>723990875 (OP)
Yeah, and I only like maybe 2 games on that list.
>>723991130
Irrelevant. Everything is influenced by something and building off of things that came before it.

>no Street Fighter 2
>no Mortal Kombat
>no Mario Kart
>no Super Metroid
>no Symphony of the Night
>no Cave Story
>no Yume Nikki
>no Dark Souls
>no Alone in the Dark
>no og Zelda
Most influential games my ass

>/v/ - social media gossip
Why do you fags care about twittershit so much?

>>723992265
>Cave Story
>Yume Nikki
Get out of your tranny bubble.

>>723990875 (OP)
>GTA 5
at least list GTA 3 is you want the list to be taken with any seriousness

>>723990875 (OP)
>ocarina of time
really? cmon. enough of the shilling for this game
>melee
I'm wiling to contest this one, maybe it's influential for e sports or something but this one seems odd.
also half of this should be old shit that started genres like rogue and wizardry
also
>no tennis for two

>>723992201
a small game influencing a bigger more popular game is more influential than the actual big popular game itself that only influences new smaller games

>slopcraft
>STD 5
>shitnite
>SLOP MW2
>slop of trannycraft

>>723990875 (OP)
Homm 3. Starcraft. Counter-Strike. Dota

>no PONG
>no Space Invaders
>no Pac-Man
>no DOOM
>Final Fantasy VII instead of IV
>Final Fantasy anything over Dragon Quest
>Ocarina of Time instead of the original Legend of Zelda
>GTA 5 instead of 3
>not even Team Fortress 2
This retard doesn't even understand the meaning of the word "influential".

The Legend of Zelda
Super Metroid
Rogue
Wizardry
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Street Fighter II
StarCraft
Doom (1993)
GoldenEye 007
Dragon Quest
Ultima IV
Virtua Fighter 2
ICO
Shin Megami Tensei
Resident Evil
Super Mario 64
EarthBound
Shenmue
Yu-NO
Devil May Cry
Warcraft III
Half-Life
Prince of Persia
Another World
Quake
Phantasy Star
Castle Wolfenstein
Dune II

>>723990875 (OP)

Its incredible how massively influential FFVII is in the industry just by effectively stealing the entire plot of a movie that nobody even likes or cares about.

>>723990875 (OP)
People use "best" or "favorite" interchangeably with "influential" and it pisses me off.

>>723991258
How many games were influenced by GTAV in particular?
GTA clones were popping up well before it launched.

>>723991975
shazam lost

>>723992169
>>723992064
You underestimate the important of Super Mario Bros, also Super Mario 64. Also, I personally never played it, but shouldn't Half-Life be on that list?

>>723991975
Based

I don't think they understand what "influence" means. Like, some of those games are influential, but in what ways are more contemporary games copying (aspects of) GTA 5, say, such that these aspects weren't around before? Granted, I haven't played it (I'm picking it because I believe its influence to be near-zero), but from where I stand, it looks like a thing in itself in ambition, detail and scope that other developers haven't even tried to copy, and other than that mostly does what GTA4 or other contemporary or proceeding games do (or so I gather).

>>723992064
I think the influential roguelike is "obviously" NetHack; Rogue is the kind of game university types played on computer terminals connected to their university mainframes, and while this is true of NetHack too and it is true that Rogue was ported to other systems also, it is NetHack "broke out" (in part because it was a collaborative effort, one of the first ones of its type, in being developed in ARPANET and later the Internet, hence the name) and became popular for personal computers too. There are some roguelikes (like Brogue) that "go back to basics" in such a way that can be seen as being influenced by Rogue, and then there's the Moria/Andband branch of course, but most roguelikes and non-roguelikes (like Diablo) were influenced by people playing NetHack or NetHack-inspired games, not by Rogue.

Wtf was influenced by GTA 5? The closest I could see is how devs would rather milk a game for 10 years but even then that was done before and better than GTA 5

>>723994949
For the record, I note the conflict between saying
>in what ways are more contemporary games copying (aspects of) GTA 5, say, such that these aspects weren't around before
and then that NetHack is the influential one and not Rogue that was around before. What I wanted to imply is that "the ideas are floating around" - in case of Rogue they were largely restricted to academic circles, in NetHack the influence became widespread, whereas with GTA5 there would be no telling if subsequent games were inspired directly by it, or the general zeitgeist.

>>723990875 (OP)
Where's Pong?

>>723996256
Pong didn't really influence anything. It just existed.

>>723990875 (OP)
>gta 5
What games has that influenced? GTA in general, sure, but specifically 5?

>>723990875 (OP)
No Pokemon? Even after Pokemania and the Go craze?

>>723990875 (OP)
Bump

>>723997071
The rest of gaming wouldn't exist without Tennis For Two, tho

>>724001240
I disagree. It would exist in some way, shape or form. Maybe it would have happened a bit later. Tennis For Two just happened to be there first.

>>723994462
Yeah I would probably put SM64 there in place of OOT. There's an argument that it influenced 3D open-world games first.

Doom is more influential than Half-Life as it informed FPS as a genre itself, including Half-Life. Half-Life was influential in environmental story telling, contiguous level design and puzzle solving but it wouldn't exist without Doom in the first place

>>723990875 (OP)
what is influential about GTAV? 3 is the influencer

>>724001790
>Half-Life was influential in environmental story telling, contiguous level design and puzzle solving but it wouldn't exist without Doom in the first place
I see. I'm not big on shooters, I just remember a time when people would go on and on about how every modern AAA game is really just Half-Life.

>>723997313
Pokemon didn't influence anything except a few failed monster collector games on the GBC that no one remembers.

>>723992064
>>723992169
A good list, but a little too much Nintendo glazing going on here. I would swap out Dragon Quest for Akalabeth/Ultima goldeneye for Alien Resurrection (the actual origin of the modern fps control scheme) and maybe even Zelda for Hydlide, although arguably you could trace both of them back to Ultima too.
I would also maybe swap Starcraft for Dune II.

>Fortnite
PUBG developers are seething.

>>723990875 (OP)
I'd say super mario 64 was more influential than oot. Nearly every 3d game copied 64's camera controls. Although I guess oot has lock on mechanics going for it

>>724003190
pubg deserves it for going full azn and becoming a shitty cosmetics simulator

>>723992265
Who the fuck was influenced by Mortal Kombat?

>>724003128
Nobody played or took influence on those pieces of shit

>>724002936
And what did SSBM and LOZ Ocarina of Time influenced more than Pokemon?

>>724003345
Many companies first for establishing the ESRB and then later fighting games for pushing narrative more since MK9.

>>723990875 (OP)
Why
Haven’t there been enough of these lists

>>723990875 (OP)
Doom isn't even on this list and its the only reason CoD or fortnight exist

>>724003416
Enough people played Ultima for its creator to afford a civilian visit the international space station a few years ago

>>723990875 (OP)
I would add Mario Kart 64

>>723990875 (OP)
No ultima, shit list.

>>724003573
>mortal kombat is one of the most influential games ever because of the influence MK9 had on some niche genre today
I give you the ESRB thing and MK was a big deal back in the day, but come on.

>>724003416
Ultima is one of the most influential series of all time. Arguably the most influential.

GTA 3 or SA were probably more influential than 5
I don't think Smash Bros has actually been that influential, probably bump that for Dark Souls

Otherwise honestly seems accurate enough

>>723990875 (OP)
>nothing from Atari or arcades
shit list

>>723990875 (OP)
accurate because it influenced cancer aswell

People already pointed out Ultima but i'd add farmville for normalizing cash shop and mobile purchases in the west.

>>724003834
>some niche genre
They used to be big after the SF2 boom. They've also been seeing growth in esports in the past 5 years if you've been keeping up with it due to more companies investing in official circuits and big names like EVO going year-round.

>>723991258
Dark Souls wouldn't exist without OOT

>>723990875 (OP)
Recency bias. More than half of these came out in the 21st century. Their influence is debatable. There's also no arcade games in the list, and one PC game.

>>723990875 (OP)
Not really, which isn't surprising.
Normalfags often confuse "popular" with "influential", influential things often are unpopular themselves, even if they eventually influence things that become extremely popular.

I don't blame the people reposting this though, it takes actual research to properly know which games birthed the most important game genres and mechanics.

>>724003498
Smash is a bad choice too but Ocarina influenced basically every 3D 3rd person action and/or adventure game since

>>723990875 (OP)
>Doom isn't on there
>COD is
You can tell how young the idiot who wrote this is.

>>723990875 (OP)
TF2 over gta 5

>>724004295
are you genuinely 18 years old?

>>724004191
Fightans are growing, sure, but overall it is a niche community in the grand scheme of vidya. I just think if we put any fighting game in a top ten list of influential games, it shouldn't be MK for something MK9 did. The most influential fighting game is Street Fighter 2. Having two fighting games on such a list would be like having two driving simulators.

>>724003892
>I don't think Smash Bros has actually been that influential, probably bump that for Dark Souls

>>723990875 (OP)
>GTA 5 and melee instead of doom and half-life

>>724004661
Smash brothers has influenced almost nothing.
There's a few copycats that all sucked and died

Once again, midwits are confusing "I like game" with "game was influential on the entire industry"

>>724004661
Smash Bros is essential brownoid core

>>724004610
He's right though, are you genuinely retarded?

>>723990875 (OP)
>Zoomers think how famous a franchise is means it's more influential

>>724004754
>brothers
Opinion discarded. Anyone that says Brothers instead of Bros has no knowledge about Smash.

>>724004854
King's Field 1, 2, 3, and Shadow Tower all pre-date OoT.

>MUH Z TARGETING LOCK ON
FS also made Armored Core, dumbass

>>724004828
Smash is mainly popular in Japan and the USA (white Americans only), it's a white man's game, unlike your third world Souls shovelware.

>>724004610
are you? OOT created the blueprint for modern third person action games

>>724005092
Watch a melee tournament
All the major players are nonwhites

>>724004924
I played more 64 and melee before you were born than you ever played

>>724005002
>King's Field 1, 2, 3, and Shadow Tower
those are first person you brown zoomer ape. Doom predates all of them

>>723990875 (OP)
Why is it all normalfag shit?

>>724005103
You're underaged

>>723992064
1 and 2 are BS, Ultima did all that shit back in 1981.

>>723990875 (OP)
>hey fellow gamers, this post is absolutely going VIRAL right now and EVERYONE on the subreddits and discords are talking about it!!!!! what do you think, chat?
i think you should kill yourself.

>>724005002
Miyazaki himself in interview said that Souls was heavily influenced by OOT.
And even without that it's pretty obvious if you actually sit down and play both games.
But I'm sure you know better than From themselves.

>>724004413
This.

>>724005345
>Japanese man credits his seniors and places them as more important than himself

no shit he said that

>>723990875 (OP)
the most egregious are MW2, GTA 5 and smash brothers. there's literally no argument to make for those being influential.

>ctrl+f "Resident Evil 4"
>"0 results found"
Literally THE game that made 3D action shooters a thing

>>724005309
fromdrone projection. you weren't even alive in 1998

>>724005591
I was 11 years old.
The perfect age to have become a nostalgia blinded retard who sucks off OoT whenever he can.

Game is overrated and nowhere near as influential as tendys like to believe

>>723990875 (OP)
It's a shitty zoomerfied all time greats, it's an attempt to try to pass off their """""culture"""""" as relevant

Actual top 10 most influential is as follows in order
>Tetris
>OOT
>SM64
>Super Mario Bros
>A Link to the Past
>Doom
>PacMan
>Street Fighter 2 Turbo
>Age of Empires 2
>Morrowind

Cool. All the genre ruiners.

The most influential game, in terms of inventing shit from nothing that had the biggest possible impact, is Ultima IV. And there's nothing else close to it.

>>724005559
Don't lump Smash with your shitty zoomer games.

>>724005724
Morrowind is more of a road-not-taken.
Video games have been (imo) tragically under-influenced by it.

>>724005724
What games (outside Bethesda) did Morrowind influence?

>>724005893
>provides no argument
thank you for proving my point.

>>723990875 (OP)
>no pong
>no maze war
As expected zoomniggers are retarded.

San Andreas is the most influential GTA of all time.

Zeldafags are the most delusional group of people, possibly ever.

>>724006115
They seem to believe that LoZ invented video games

>>723991667
>Melee
Nothing, piece of shit game
>Meelee
Generation-defining piece of modern art

>>723991328
HAHA MY PEANUS BEENUS! XDD

>>724005723
name another non-From game that was more influential than OoT on Demon Souls' design.

This is blowing up on social media, is it accurate?

>>723990875 (OP)
B-BUT WHAT ABOUT BREATH OF THE WILD?!?!?!?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHA

>>724006292
Big if true

Space War
Pong
Breakout
Space Invaders
Pacman
Rogue
Castle Wolfenstein
Battlezone
Space Race
Gran Trak 10
Road Race/Fonz
Pole Position
Mario Kart
Winning Run
Joust
Heavyweight Champ
Karate Champ
Street Fighter
Final Fight
Ray-O-Lite (technically a mechanical game)
Qwak!
Parappa the Rapper
Alone in the Dark
Zork

tired now. Someone else do it.

>>723990875 (OP)
I love modern warfare 2 but it didn't influence anything

it's funny to try to hold up GTA 5 as influential as all the AAA studios remotely capable of iterating on it are gutted and not replaced, and as GTA 6 becomes the last lifeboat that normalfags are desperately clinging to.
GTA is the teleological endpoint of video games as well knew them before indie, for better or worse. It's by definition the least influential object in the universe.

>>724006490
*as we knew them

>>724006115
>>724006158
why are thirdie fromdrones always so angry?

I think a top 10 list is too small when you want to look at the most influential games. You would really need to make a top 20 to be fair.

>>724006490
GTA is the casual gaming midwit's idea of a perfect game, frankly.
>dude, it's big and realistic, and there's lots of stuff in it
Okay. Is any of it fun? Is there a single system that feels satisfying to master. Is the plot even any good?

>>724006580
NTA but legend of Zelda is not influential. I can't point to any series and say "this is like loz" neither 2d nor 3d.

>>723990875 (OP)
GTA, Tetris, Melee are not at all influential. Popular sure, but not influential. Like WoW for example completely changed MMOs to the point that all MMOs have to be a WoW clone to do well.

>>723990875 (OP)
surprisingly so
>mario
>minecraft
>FF7
>tetris
>MW2
>WoW
self explanatory

>GTA5
change it to GTA3
>fortnite
too young to be influential
>melee
has no real legacy to be called influential

What games has Smash Bros influenced other than its sequels?

Also, no Pokemon?

>>723990875 (OP)
>WoW is copy of EQ
List is made by retard for retards

>>723991328
Penus Weanus just started blowing up on X (formerly Twitter).

>>724006483
Yes, it did. It lead to the 7th gen casual chase. Every game dev said "we want the call of duty audience". I did huge amounts of damage to game development because it made so much money. Every dev wanted to make a game that sold at that level. It is one of the most influential games ever, but only because it sold like trillion copies.

>>724007057
Like a hundred Smash clones that no one cares about cause they aren't Smash.

>>724007169
yeah but that was because of MW1

>>724007169
CoD4, surely

>>724006749
Uhh every modern AAA open world game copied zelda. If you want to go further back you have games like Okami, Beyond Good and Evil, Fable, Darksiders, 3D Prince of Persia, etc. The list goes on and on

>>723991792
Based Electrosphere poster.

>>723990875 (OP)
>This is blowing up on social media, is it accurate?
No it isn't, and no it isn't.

>>723990998
>t. retarded zoomer who doesn't understand the impact OoT and Mario 64 had on the industry

>>723991667
I guess all the failed tryhard platfighters in recent times like Nick Brawl and Rivals 2.
>>723997071
It spawned a bunch of clones and got multiple companies into the video game business. Nintendo's first game system was a Pong machine.
>>724005724
Needs Ultima Underworld, Kung-Fu Master, Galaxian, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, Street Fighter II, Pac-Man, Pong, Super Mario Kart, Virtua Racing.
>>724006935
>GTA is not influential
Where are you kids coming from? Were you in a coma, or in your dad's ballsack when we got a decade+ of GTA clones?
>Tetris
Besides the whole falling-block puzzle game genre?

>>724006749
It's pretty influential. I don't know if a game linked RPG elements, a vast world map, real time combat, and puzzle solving together as seamlessly, before Zelda.
All of those parts had been done, but Zelda put them together, and put them together in a way that resulted in something very fun and playable.
Earlier equivalents would be like, I dunno, that Indiana Jones game on Atari? Does that even have a health bar you can level up? I don't think so.

>>724007946
>when we got a decade+ of GTA clones?
the problem is the list specifically says V

>>723990875 (OP)
No, it's misinformed. FF7 and OoT for example are very highly regarded games, but not because they were influential. Dragon Quest is an example of an influential game, Castlevania is an influential game. This list doesn't have Doom in it. Where the fuck is Diablo 2? No.

>>724007946
>Donkey Kong
Super Mario Bros supplants it mainly because Donkey Kong is not fun to play in any way, shape, or form

>>724008184
I'd say FF7 and OOT were games that "raised the bar", as opposed to necessarily establishing trends.
They were influential in the sense that everyone was like "holy shit, that's good. We have to start matching that level of quality".
They did not invent the RPG or the action adventure, or 3D combat, or anything like that.

>>724008056
The post I was replying to just said "GTA". And maybe GTA V can still be there after all for showing just how profitable Judaic microtransactions can be.

>>724008524
He was clearly referring to GTAV with the context of the post he was replying to

>>723990875 (OP)
it would be insane to deny that those games weren't extremely influential, for better or worse
>>723990998
>of value
that's not what the list is about, you dysgenic sperg

>>723990875 (OP)
It's an very annoying list, it pisses me off. But today, it is correct, 100%, it's annoyingly accurate.

>>723990875 (OP)
>Super Mario Bros
true.
>Minecraft
true.
>GTA 5
this being 5 instead of 3 already tells you everything about the rest of the list.
>Fortnite
true, sadly.
>LoZ:OoT
true, somewhat, but likely overstated.
>Final Fantasy 7
same as above
>Tetris
massive hit, but influenced very little.what's a tetrislike?
>COD MW2
true to some degree, in the same vein as fortnite.
>Meele
inspired like ten clones which flopped because smash autists only play smash. does not belong here.
>WoW
true.

the list is not bad.

>>723990875 (OP)
Video games are so influential in society, that the only games that should make this list are those where the most NON-gamers can successfully answer the following 2 questions:

>Have you heard of this game?
>Can you describe it for me?

Games like Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda, while well-known to gamers, never had a large reach beyond gaming. Therefore, the top 10 should be:


Pac-Man
>a yellow mouth that is afraid of ghosts
Pokémon
>collecting Asian creatures
Super Mario Brothers
>A guy who runs around with a mustache and red hat with his green brother
Fortnite
>A colorful meme game for kids
Mortal Kombat
>Guys fight each other
Mario Kart
>Mario races his friends in a cart
Tetris
>Arrange falling blocks
Minecraft
>Build a block world
The Sims
>Virtual doll house


The tenth I’m not sure. Could be:

Space Invaders
>Shoot space ships
World of Warcraft
>Fantasy online game
Call of Duty
>Military shooter
Angry Birds
>Flick birds
GTA
>Crime simulator
Candy Crush
>Match candies
FIFA
>Virtual Soccer
Madden
>Virtual Football

Some of these contenders are more known to older people, and others to more younger.

>>723991667
Not taking a shower and raping kids

>>724003687
The Battle Royale thing is like 10% of the impact of Fortnite.
It fundamentally changed battle passes, cosmetics / pop culture collaborations, live service, and "games as a platform". You might not like any of these, but Fortnite pioneered them all.

>>724009459
>massive hit, but influenced very little.what's a tetrislike?
Puzzle games moms play on their phone. Also, there were thousands of tetris knock offs in the 90s.

>social media
kys

>>723990875 (OP)
Pretty good, not sure about Melee though. Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat should probably be there instead.

>>724009680
Puzzle games existed before Tetris.
It didn't do anything revolutionary, it just sold a lot of copies. If Tetris didn't exist, gaming would look roughly the same, except for some edge cases like Poyo Poyo or Candy Crush.

>>723990875 (OP)
>GTA 5
bullshit, GTA 3 was the one that put Rockstar on the map and started the whole open world criminal enterprise genre

>>724009945
Fair, Tetris is just kind of a stand-in for puzzle games in general. The same way GTAV can be seen as a stand-in for GTA and GTA knock offs.
That being said, Tetris did have a significant influence on the massive success of the original gameboy. Of course, we don't know exactly how that would have gone without Tetris, but one can argue Tetris helped putting handhelds on the map. If any game should be on that list to represent handhelds, it's Tetris or Pokemon.

>>724005581
Good point, basically every third person over the shoulder camera game is because of RE4.

>>724009471
I think WoW deserves the spot. The MMO gold rush was huge and the legacy still lives on today with everyone trying to make live service games that they can coast on for 20+ years like what Blizzard has been doing with WoW. Not to mention all the action rpgs with skill/talent trees and color coded item rarity.

Diablo had those as well but WoW being the biggest game in the world for years is what led to everyone copying those. If it weren't for those mechanics, I'd put EQ over WoW but it's gotta be WoW.

>>723993145

>Opera house opening
>Dystopian city scape
>Eco-terrorism proposal at a bar
>Terrorist bombing at a government reactor
>Literal MaCLOUD character
>Literal Tifa character
>Literal Rufus Shinra character
>Literal Sephiroth character
>Literal Mayor Domino character
>Joke sequence involving clothing
>Desert prison
>Train sequence
>Villain even kills a snake to intimidate protagonist
>Movie even devolves into FUCKING ALIENS did it

How the hell did they get away with it? How the hell has nobody even noticed this before? They lifted like 75% of the entire movie into FFVII.

>>723990875 (OP)
Influential, yes. But they didn't influence any of the games I play.

>>723990875 (OP)
BotW needs to be in these lists. Way too many games nowadays are some kinda BotW ripoff.
And they all fucking suck.

>>724009459
>COD MW2
>true to some degree, in the same vein as fortnite.
What in the fuck are you talking about

>>723990875 (OP)
>no Skyrim
>no red dead 2 or fallout
>no Witcher
>no quake/doom

>>724011212
BotW is just Skyrim with the Just Cause parachute.

>>724011567
All garbage

An actual list would be something like:
Space Invaders (1978)
Xevious (1982)
Elite (1984)
Super Mario Bros. (1985)
Dragon Quest (1986)
Final Fight (1989)
Street Fighter 2 (1991)
Wolfenstein 3D (1992)
V.V (1992)
Super Mario 64 (1996)

>no streetfighter/tekken
This list is dumb, it’s zoomercore.

>>723992064
Zelda 1 is just more playable version of Hydlyde which came out 2 years earlier.

Everything Super Metroid does was done in Konami's The Goonies 2 on NES in 1987

>>724011634
Wizardy or Ultima would be a better inclusion than DQ.

>>723992036
Whilst there is the argument for Halo CE with its gameplay mechanics, I would argue Halo 2 should be here due to its online matchmaking, which AFAIK was the first game to use it, and it is still the primary way to connect players in online games to this day.
In fact, without knowing the reason for why the games are on this list, I would argue it should take MW2's spot since off the top of my head I couldn't tell you what influential element it introduced or even popularized.

>>723990875 (OP)
Super Mario Bros, Minecraft and Tetris deserve to be there.
GTA 5, Fortnite, LoZ OoT, FF7, MW2, and melee need to be booted the fuck off the list.
Never played WoW so I can't comment on whether it deserves the spot or not.

>>724011941
>Tetris
>Minecraft
Low IQ subhuman posting games that influenced nothing
>>724011854
Low IQ subhuman posting games that influenced nothing

>>724011872
they should both be on there. definitely not fucking GTA5, what a joke of alist

>>723990875 (OP)
To me influential means beyond only influential to its genre but to gaming as a whole. So my list goes.
>Grand Theft Auto 3
>Minecraft
>Resident Evil 4
>Super Mario Bros
>Super Metroid
>Doom
>Dark Souls
>Gears of War
>Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.
>Day Z
I include Day Z for influencing both extraction games and battle royale games even if its fairly forgotten now.
A few honoroable mentions
>The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
>World of Warcraft
>Street Fighter 2
>Half Life

>>723990875 (OP)
Looks somewhat accurate, but Mario 64 should probably be in there, maybe instead of GTA 5 or Fortnite.

>>723990875 (OP)
>shartnight
>influential
bullshit

>>723990875 (OP)
Most Influential...
>Minecraft
>PUBG
>Worms
>Tetris
>Zelda 1,ALttP
>Metroid
>Dune2000
>WoW
>Doom
>CS
>Dark Souls
>Binding of Isaac
>Street Fighter 2
popular does not imply influential
inventing something does not imply influential

>>723990875 (OP)
Trade Fortnite for Pokémon, Dark Souls for Smash, and MW1 over 2.

>>723990875 (OP)
>social media
>accurate?
Yes for normalfags, somewhere from unlikely to hard no for real people.

>>724012015
Influenced Zelda and Metroid

>>724012279
mw2 is what killed dedicated servers forever so that's probably the better one to include.

>>723992265
Why do sub 80-IQs have so much confidence? LMAO
>>no Mario Kart
Party racing games are a fucking tiny niche. You can't call it a "top 10 most influential game" when it's such a niche genre with near 0 influence. Name 5 party racing games that weren't made by nintendo.
>inb4 he starts naming slop nobody has ever heard of

>>723990875 (OP)
it's wrong but not as far off as some want to believe.
>Super Mario Brothers
>Minecraft
>Ocarina of Time
>DOOM
>Half Life (your choice if it's HL1 or 2)
>Skyrim (yes, really)
>Dark Souls (yes, really)
>Pokemon gen 1
>Tetris
not sure what to put in the last one, could be any combination of:
>TF2 for lootboxes and competitive/casual multiplayer, still huge influence to this day
>BOTW for all of its copycats
>FF7 for obvious reasons, might be the easiest to slide in there
>GTA SA or GTA 3 or GTA 4 or whatever. Not 5, but one of the previous ones.
>Ultima [whatever]
>Rogue
>Wizardry
>Dragon Quest
>MGS
>Street Fighter 2 (one of the easiest to put on the list as well...)
>Some other ones I can't think of
There's a lot of reason to sub out some of my earlier picks too but it also really depends on your perspective on the industry. Should we count a gacha game for revitalizing the mobage kusoge industry and making billions of dollars? What about Roblox for being like 2 decades old and dominating the market for kids? Silent Hill or Resident Evil for being some of the earliest games to be taken seriously as art? Shadow of the Colossus for a similar influence but more broadly-reaching? Halo for its deep piercing influence? Call of Duty? Cave Story? Castlevania? Mega man? Galaga? Pacman? Sonic? It's really hard to narrow it down to just 10.
Still think the list in the OP is wrong though.

>>723991667
How appropriate, you fight like a cow.

>>723993145
>>724011075
Gotta remember this, as it's just another Escape From New York situation.

>>724012321
Bait

>>724009636
the battle royale thing was started by pubg though... fortnite was a minecraft/rust clone that became a pubg clone

>>724012484
Why Half Life?

>>724012484
yeah mgs kicked off the movie game craze, i feel like it's not getting enough credit for that.

>>724012820
influenced literally every single fps that came after it.

>>724011075
Good artist create, great artist steal.

>People complaining about GTAV
The influence has nothing to do with single player, online was the first game with a cash stop that generated more wealth that some 1st world nations.

>>723990875 (OP)
>wow instead of wc3

>>724012484
>pretend to know his stuff
>doesn't name Warcraft 3
>game which gave birth to more new genres than anything on the list and therefore had biggest influence on gaming as a whole
In trash you go

>>724013089
In what ways?

>final fantasy
>ocarina of time
>smash melee
>tetris
All good games, but influential? Like how?

>>724013671
Smash influence young Americans not to take shower.

>>724013671
>>tetris
invented QTEs

>>724013671
For Ocarina of Time Wikipedia has this
>Ocarina of Time popularized features such as a target lock system and context-sensitive buttons that have since become common elements in 3D adventure games.
And also a quote by Miyazaki
>Dark Souls creator Hidetaka Miyazaki (FromSoftware) said that "The Legend of Zelda became a sort of textbook for 3D action games".
Not sure about the other 3 games though

>>724013318
You're a literal low IQ thirdie. Nobody is complaining about GTA V. They are rightfully acknowledging it as not influential. And your argument is shit. It's like saying Drake is more influential than the beatles because he made more money. Or like saying Marvel capeshit is more influential than Kubrick. It's not. You're just stupid.

>>723990875 (OP)
I think it'd be more accurate to swap in GTA 3 for 5
Dark Souls for FF7
and Brawl for Melee
Not that I like even half of any of these games listed above, or in op picrel, but for better or worse, objectively, I do believe those are the most influential

>>723990875 (OP)
Kinda? I'd argue GTA SA was more influential than GTA 5, Worth mentioning also are Deus Ex, Doom and Half Life. Probably Dark Souls, that's an entire genre now. I feel fortnite is there on a technicality. Is it influential? Pubg was the influential one, Fortnite is just the huge one, and I don't think we see many Fortnite influences?
>>723991130
>copies or heavily influenced by other games
Doesn't matter. Scarface (1983) was influenced by being a remake of Scarface (1932) which was influenced by being based on the Scarface novel. Doesn't change the fact that Scarface (1983) is the more influential movie. Same with Ghost in the Shell (1995) being one of THE most influential sci-fi movies of all time, influencing The Matrix, which then became a hugely influential movie in it's own right. You do not need to be the original or first version of something to be influential. We can all see that Donkey Kong (1981) was the original, but we also all know that later mario games, were much more influential. Possibly world, the most.

>>724014078
It influenced other games to copy it's model, that's the point. It might not have been the first, but it was the first to do it with massive success.

>>723990875 (OP)
wtf do they mean by influence?

where do Doom, Half-Life, Street Fighter II, Warcraft, Metroid, Resident evil, The legend of Zelda, GTA III, Mario Kart fit in this list?

CS made MW2, and half lfie made CS, themselves made by Doom. GTA III made GTA 5, Metroid and Zelda are responsible for every single indie game ever, mario kart had countless copycats and is still a staple of video gaming for literally everyone and their literal mother and daughter, Wracraft made accessible RTS games and WoW, SF II all fighting games

fortnite is overrated what did it influence really? its a gneeric TPS and didnt invent a signle thing in it except building shit in real time as par tof TPS which is i think ripped off from a source mod?

>>724013625
I added that it very much depended on your perception. I haven't played many games influenced by warcraft, so I wouldn't have thought it was a relevant option. I would have said starcraft 2 if anything, personally.

>>724013630
it standardized things like environmental storytelling, having cinematic presentation, a mixture of different genres to spice up gameplay (again, in an fps specifically), and hl2 was probably even more influential for its cutscene-laden and physics-focused gameplay. Just go look it up, there's plenty of people who talk about how influential it is other than me right here.

>>724014072
That's fair, but I still wouldn't call it "the MOST influential".
I'm personally done with fromsoft games for the near future, but just comparing the two you can see how much less TLOZ is. Dark souls literally spawned an entire genre of knockoffs ("souls like") and had like, almost every interesting element ripped off in some way by other games. And I still dunno if it deserves a place in the top 10. Ocarina of time, with only 2-3 mechanics that ended up becoming industry standards, definitely does not

Another problem with these "most influential" is that you can always find something that inspried something and you can go back to books and tabletop games before video games. And each also took inspiration from some side shit every single time.

some weird has dos games -> whatever ->Doom->Half Life ->MW2

Yo ucan lawys go up the chain. Whatsis the most influential the first? Then the most influential games ar eall shitty dos games or atari games from a long time ago

>>723990875 (OP)
no warcraft 3 should be number 1 easily and its really not even close

>>724014827
Can you describe what "sous like" entail?

>>723991332
Or Doom, which is understood to be the most influential game of all time by everyone other than the Nintendo fan club, who live in their own world. Half-Life and WarCraft 3 or StarCraft should also be on that list, along with Halo, Dark Souls, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, and probably Skyrim (as much as I hate to admit it).

Remove fucking Melee and replace CoD:MW2 with CoD 4, and GTA 5 with GTA 3.

This list was obviously made by a zoomer or someone trying to make bait.

>>724014827
Funny that Demon/Dark Souls were often criticized as just Zelda derivatives early on.

>>723992036
>>724011930
It's also the reason for the Xbox to exist. Without the success of Halo and Halo 2, MSFT would never have made another console.

>>723990875 (OP)
I would say GTA3 through San Andreas were more important

>>724012108
good list

>Gears of War
First that made me shake my head. What did it do that RE4 didn't? I can't think of any influence that Gears has on the industry.

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Same here. Being popular isn't necessarily influence. Nintendo simply followed trends that were 15 years old at that time. Tendys thought they were new, because they tend to exist within a bubble.

>>724013089
Not to mention is the game that launched Valve, who created Steam. None of which would exist w/o the success of HL.
>>724013630
Here you go little zoomer. Grab some popcorn and learn where half the industry comes from: https://youtu.be/BQLEW1c-69c?si=Nol0RI4WHaMhoBy0

>>724014827
Fromsoft must have patented the messages because like no other game uses those and they're kinda the best part.

>>724017795
Guessing it's because they're only useful because souls games have a ton of obtuse or insanely well hidden content. Lots of games copy the combat, almost none copy the world and level design. Slap the messages in most souls clones and they would have no purpose

>>724014762
All of those were in different games already though, I don't think it being the first to do something in a specific genre can really be called influential.

>>724018026
Good point, no one game has that same level of exploration or obtuseness that the Souls games do. Which is a shame, I love those mechanics with the hidden walls and floors and all sort of esoteric nonsense precisely because of the message system.

>>723993515
RDR2 if anything. T2 definitely wanted RDO to be as profitable as GTAO, but T2 is dumb and always puts the cart before the horse.

>>723991258
ocarina and ff7. mario came before and ff7 didnt inspire countless copycats. mario 64 still is untouched. the list not having SMB is also stupid. and GTAV wasnt nearly as influental as GTA3 industry wise. Smash Bros also isnt that influental.

>>723990875 (OP)
The most influential video game ever made is Ultima Underworld

>>724004295
Kings Field came out 1994

>>724020835
NTA but FF7 is directly responsible for AAA and movie games. FF7 being so popular led Sega into spending millions on Panzer Dragoon Saga and then Shenmue to compete with such a big budget production. Even the marketing for FF7 was treating it like a movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDxikKSDtZg

The budget for FF7 was $45 million back in 1997. OoT was $12 million for comparison. That was the start of the AAA arms race that ruined gaming, the influence of FF7 on the industry really can't be overstated.

>>724020926
Not even the most influential Ultima game

>>724016903
Gears was cover shooters. And brown and bloom

>>723991667
And I’ve got a little TIP for you! Get the POINT?

>>723990875 (OP)
>fucking Shark Cards 5 when GTA 3 was more important than anything Rockstar did in two last decades combined
>if you're going to pretend JRPGs are influential at all at least pick Chrono Trigger
>Call of Duty at all
>no Doom
>no Quake
>fucking Melee

>>724001240
>>724001434
Tennis for Two is a mostly irrelevant footnote. Pong was inspired by the Tennis game for the Magnavox Odyssey, but nobody involved with either of those games had even heard of Tennis for Two until years later.

It's historically interesting, but it didn't influence or inspire anything.

>>723990875 (OP)
space invaders should be on here. pacman too probably. they both influenced a lot of old games even if newer games aren't influenced by them in any way.
and pokemon should be on here. it wasn't the first monster collection game but it popularized the genre. maybe final fantasy 2 should be here as well since it introduced leveling skills by using them. and metroid invented a whole genre. street fighter should be on here too for introducing combos in fighting games.
the torneko mystery dungeon game or shiren might deserve a spot too.
i'd put the og nes zelda on here too. maybe sim city too. tales of phantasia might deserve a spot for being one of the first games with good sounding voice acting and a opening theme song with lyrics. b17 bomber and the explosive disarming game for the intellivision might be the actual first games to have voices in them.

>>723990875 (OP)
Fortnite? That's like saying Dota2 is influential over Dota Allstars.

>>724021487
thats a stretch. i'd say MGS is closer to a moviegame. theres a lot of cinematic games in that time. stuff like mizzurna falls, as obscure as it is, came before shenmue foe example

>>723990875 (OP)
007 for the n64 should probably be here too.
wizardry should be on here since it influenced most rpgs and jrpgs. dragon quest was influenced by it and also influenced several other games.
virtua fighter might deserve a spot for being the first 3d fighter.
shenmue might also deserve a spot for being the first 3d life simulation adventure game.
mother and mother 2 somewhat popularized "jrpg in a modern setting" as well as influencing several indie games.
phantasy star online might deserve a spot too for being one of the first games with online play.

>>724026618
yeah, i eas thinking if fightans as well. moreso arcade games in general shaped markets to come, which is basically absent from tha brainlet list

>>723990875 (OP)
if I asked a black person to make this list this is about what I would expect

>>723990875 (OP)
misty blue might be worth mentioning since i think it hepled define the visual novel genre. or maybe yuno.

>>724010428
Yeah, I really can't see much GTA V did to influence widespread game features. No one else has really bothered with the switching between multiple characters spread out over a world till Spiderman 2 and now Anata.

>>723990875 (OP)
Lol melee. No other fighting games even dream of centering their fighting around Smash's ringouts. And the ones that did, like Multiversus, failed to gain any traction amongst the gaming playerbase at large.

>>724027684
i think it's at least worth mentioning it did popularize party games that use characters from different pre-existing ips going head to head. that would be my argument for it.

>>723990875 (OP)
GTA 5 and SSBM didn't influence shit.
Rest is accurate.

>>723990875 (OP)
lmao what a dogshit list
switch gta 5 for gta 3, cod mw2 for doom and smash melee for pac man or sf2 that it gets a little better

>>724021487
i'd argue ff10 influenced movie games more. it has actual cutscenes with voice acting.

>>724027812
That would be Smash 64 rather than Melee.

>>723990875 (OP)
seems alright
maybe put gta3 instead

>>723990875 (OP)
mario 64 might belong here too

>>723990875 (OP)
>melee more influential than street fighter 2
lol
lmao even

>>723991258
>Dark souls deserves a spot but I don’t know who to bounce off the list for it
Smash.

>>724028273
Scrimblo bimblo didn't influence shit

Demon's Souls rather than Dark Souls is more fitting when devs like CDPR and Sandfall references it in their work.

>>723990875 (OP)
persona 5 might be worth mentioning for influencing the in battle menus being atrached to buttons rather than being a list.

>>724012193
Do you know how many billions of dollars have been wasted trying to replicate Fortnite's success (while also failing to understand that there can't be two Fortnites)? I think the game is an abomination and sucks donkey cocks, but anything that warps the landscape of video game development to that degree deserves to be called influential.

>>724027354
but there are no kfc or watermelon stains...

>>723990875 (OP)
ghouls and ghosts and battletoads popularized hard bullshit games for a while. calling gamestop employees for battletoads was even a meme for a while.

>>723990875 (OP)
add LoL and Doom, I would also put Skyrim above Melee since it did kind of catalyze the open-world meme

I say that as a former Meleefag

>>723990875 (OP)
the last of us is THE movie game that most other movie games tried to copy.

>>723990875 (OP)
silent hill 2 popularized horror games using trauma as a theme.

>>724028017
SF2 if anything really, the amount of game that tried to copy it was staggering

>>723990875 (OP)
Fake candy crush isn't included in this sexist list

>>723990875 (OP)
fnaf popularized mascot horror and made everyone want to shove jump scares in their horror games.

>>723990875 (OP)
social media here
this list is mostly accurate

>>723990875 (OP)
harvest moon and animal crossing influenced life simulation games somewhat.

>>724029708
holy kino

>>723991258
>It’s honestly pretty accurate. Dark souls deserves a spot but I don’t know who to bounce off the list for it
GTAV. It's super well known and profitable but not particularly influential

>>723990875 (OP)
Shouldnt it in reality be Doom?

>>723990875 (OP)
>Fortnite
>GTA5 specifically
I finally understand why old people were always so bitter when I was younger. Kids are and always will be fucking retarded.

>>724029178
>Do you know how many billions of dollars have been wasted trying to replicate Fortnite's success
Fortnite replicated PUBG which replicated an Arma mod.

>>724028017
Good suggestions

>>724029880
what fortnite influenced was crossplay (good) battle pass (bad) and how live service games should work (bad)
and now they're trying to copy roblox