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Whats the secret to making a compelling and strong female main character that doesn’t immediately offend or cause gamers to throw raging tantrums?
Anonymous No.724133615 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
>le tranny face
Anonymous No.724133745 [Report] >>724136463
fun gameplay
Anonymous No.724134870 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
hard way: have good writing and give her personality other than "being le strong and le independent"
easy way: make her a cute tomboy
Anonymous No.724135202 [Report] >>724141409 >>724142162
>>724133476 (OP)
if you're a creative the question will never even cross your mind, you will simply create.
so i implore you to give up whatever you're planning. just go get a normal office job.
Anonymous No.724135382 [Report] >>724135697 >>724137968 >>724139173
She has to be "conventionally" attractive, that is non-negotiable. Make her sexy but don't go overboard, it can be a slippery slope.
Write her well. Give her integrity and nobility, but with feminine charisma.
Ideally, she is not playable, or is optionally playable. Forced female protags rile up the chuds, it's gonna be difficult to get past that.
Just don't make her gay. Or a transexual. Or non-binary. Just a normal cis woman that is attractive will please 75% of gamers.
Anonymous No.724135423 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Why do you need to make such a character? It's almost impossible so the risk isn't really worth it.
Anonymous No.724135562 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Hollywood has LOADS of fucking examples. But the problem here is that the minimum expected sexy from the chuds, and the maximum acceptable sexy from the GCJ types overlap.
Anonymous No.724135697 [Report] >>724135807
>>724135382
Forced female protags don't rile up the "chuds" so long as all of your design points are met, you stupid dipshit.
Anonymous No.724135783 [Report] >>724135998
Attractive, smart, correct judgement, knows how to handle herself, not explicitly the protagonist but just the one who lucks out
Anonymous No.724135807 [Report] >>724135929
>>724135697
There are gamers who will completely avoid games where you play as women. Its a slowly dying concept but its still very much real. Same with playing as black people or characters that are very outwardly liberal.
Anonymous No.724135826 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
need Wendy wife
Anonymous No.724135835 [Report]
make the player stronger
Anonymous No.724135887 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
give her complimentary skills that benefit established protagonist or his group without overshadowing everyone
flaws are essential, make your characters suffers and trudge through misery to achieve their goals(tragic backstory is a not substitute)
display of loyalty or affection helps too
Anonymous No.724135929 [Report]
>>724135807
Oh yeah dude totally there's like one or two people out there who match your strawman, so let's act like it's a common phenomenon.
Anonymous No.724135998 [Report]
>>724135783
This is pretty much the arch type all of them were made of before they started intentionally enshittifying them
Anonymous No.724136148 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Making her capable, likable and having strengths besides being a manhating dyke would be a good start. I know this term is a meme but I have dyke fatigue purely because writers seem unable to write a female character that is capable of anything without also making her eat pussy.
Anonymous No.724136212 [Report] >>724144494
>>724133476 (OP)
You bloody heckin' turn it up to even further beyond to bring out their biggest chimp-outs possible, draining them of all their energy and making them get used to it early.
Anonymous No.724136463 [Report]
What this guy said >>724133745, but also people can immediatly tell when something is just a cynical checklist dictated by twitter peer pressure or an ESG mandate and not what the dev personally wants. That said, people who don't autistically focus on what they want never make their game anyway. They're loser faggots who care more about other people's preferences, either to please them like cucks or to provoke them like obsessed retards.
Anonymous No.724136512 [Report]
JUST MAKE THEM HOT
Anonymous No.724136554 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Just design a man, make him your bro, give him a female body, biological tits and a vagina.
Anonymous No.724136572 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
>Whats the secret to making a compelling and strong female main character that doesn’t immediately offend or cause gamers to throw raging tantrums?
Making a compelling and strong female main character.
Anonymous No.724136679 [Report] >>724137472 >>724137694 >>724137885 >>724142495
>>724133476 (OP)
I wrote a screenplay to see if I could manage it.
Noble swordsman girl. I’m curious to see if people who generally hate girlboss characters would still hate her. My thinking was
>make her skilled, but not unstoppable. Realistically gets her shit pushed in a few times
>give her strengths and flaws in equal measure
>don’t make her assert superiority by shitting on all the male characters
>give her a goal and let her grow as a person
Anonymous No.724136729 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
my gacha teams are all attractive strong chicks
take that feminists
Anonymous No.724136808 [Report]
>fem protag
Not interested unless she at least looks like Eve or such
Anonymous No.724136846 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
The problem with a lot of "le strong independent woman" characters that people bitch about is that they're often just annoying retards used to push blatantly politics. There's a vast difference between those kinds of female main characters and genuinely made female main characters who are actually strong in some way, and it's an obvious difference to everyone (besides the ones making the annoying retards, I guess). I like the latter. I will gladly shit on the former.

And if the question then becomes
>How do I not make an annoying retard
then perhaps the writer(s) need to rethink their career choice.
Anonymous No.724137026 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
short answer: make her a waifu material. works 100% of the time.
Anonymous No.724137032 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Lots of ryona and suffering, extra painful.
Local girlboss not so smug after getting her shit pushed in after losing a fight.
Anonymous No.724137217 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
>make her cute or cool or whatever
>give her a few flaws and have her actually exhibit them from time to time
>allow male characters to exist within her immediate proximity without her undermining the absolute shit out of them
Something like that.
Anonymous No.724137264 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
idea that a srong lady playable character offends anyone is a myth created by dogshit writers who are unable to write an appealing character to save their lives.
do you know how many gamers nowadays are straight up femdomfags?
Anonymous No.724137384 [Report] >>724137594
>>724133476 (OP)
>Whats the secret to making a compelling and strong female main character that doesn’t immediately offend or cause gamers to throw raging tantrums?
I know this is just a coomer muscle woman thread but I'll answer.
First, make her attractive or extremely charismatic. The only female main character (or one of the main characters) that isn't conventionally attractive but very well received, is Kriea from Kotor 2. Because of her wisdom and voice acting. But if you just have a hot woman who isn't too annoying then that also works. 2B is very robotic in her emotions and doesn't really express herself at all during the story for a long long time. But everyone loves her anyways because of her ass.
Second, don't make her insufferable. I think a common trap that most bad female writers do is that they attempt to make their female characters masculine by making them absolute assholes who commit the most cruel acts to their enemies. Doesn't matter if the enemy is even close to deserving of whatever awful fate, making your female protag do it is very off-putting, and its even worse if she is ugly as sin See Ghost of Yotei for the most recent example.
You can only get away with this if it is the player made that female character and it's just an option to do. Like with any of the awful things you can do in BG3 or Fallout for example.
Third, remember that this is a character who happens to be a woman. Being a woman shouldn't be the center piece of her entire identity. Its just something she is, not a sign she wields or some sort of political statement. But a character in whatever predicament that the game takes place in. Alien Isolation would've worked as a man as the protagonist just as well as a female would have. And I dare say that I could say the same for Dead Space too. But that could be my own dogshit opinion.
Anonymous No.724137472 [Report] >>724137809
>>724136679
give her a sensitive young man love interest she cares for and protects, and people who pushed for strong women will hate her, and chuds will love her, despite that technically being a reversal of "patriachal norms"
Anonymous No.724137540 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Build cute girls and they will come.
Anonymous No.724137594 [Report] >>724137642 >>724137848 >>724138084
>>724137384
>make their female characters masculine by making them absolute assholes who commit the most cruel acts to their enemies. Doesn't matter if the enemy is even close to deserving of whatever awful fate
odd that you mention that as a fatal flaw in a post that includes one of yoko taro's girls
Kaine and Zero are like that and they are awesome, so it's really a matter of execution
Anonymous No.724137642 [Report]
>>724137594
I think this is one of those cases where the exception proves the rule.
I can't think of an overly cruel female main character that either isn't Japanese made or modern.
Anonymous No.724137694 [Report]
>>724136679
Make her religious and wish to become a mother after saving her beloved.
Anonymous No.724137712 [Report]
>female protag
trannyslop, i will not play you're game
Anonymous No.724137809 [Report]
>>724137472
She has that, except it’s not a love interest.
Anonymous No.724137848 [Report] >>724137936
>>724137594
>Kaine and Zero are like that and they are awesome
Both of them are annoying as shit and one of them is a canon futa so only gay people like her.
Anonymous No.724137885 [Report] >>724138052 >>724138137 >>724138156 >>724138480
>>724136679
>give her strengths and flaws in equal measure
>don’t make her assert superiority by shitting on all the male characters
nah, let her talk shit all she wants but make sure it comes from a place that's understandable - give her a good reason why she's confident or feels superior
I read "noble swordsman girl" as either chivalrous to a fault (so focus on those qualities, even if it comes back to bite her) or aristocratic bitch, in which case give her hair drills and make her laugh in a haughty tone
Anonymous No.724137936 [Report]
>>724137848
Your taste is just too pedestrian
Anonymous No.724137968 [Report]
>>724135382
>Ideally, she is not playable, or is optionally playable. Forced female protags rile up the chuds
Wrong. Not a single chud complained about Eve in Stellar Blade.
Just make her hot and/or cute. That's literally it.
Anonymous No.724138052 [Report]
>>724137885
Anonymous No.724138084 [Report]
>>724137594
Zero is not an absolute asshole, she's a victim lashing out. She's literally fighting brainwashed/propagandized soldiers and her sisters that stem from the atrocities done to her, something she has to do as well considering her circumstances. Even Kaine who knows what the shades are and has the least moral justification isn't simply doing it out of pure malice, the shades specifically threaten the things she values and are (colloquially) responsible for the suffering in her life. These are heavily flawed characters that you aren't supposed to root for 100% and might be typically more masculine than most female characters, but they aren't written as men.
Anonymous No.724138131 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
make her a milf or gilf make her hot and strong, not necessarily muscular but that could be the case, make her bdsm and torture enemies who are younger then her.
>doesn’t immediately offend or cause gamers to throw raging tantrums?
you will always piss off someone no matter what you say, if the right came out to day and said they like air the left would come out to say they hit air, just make sure the final product is good and fun, like BG3 and you'll have people from all over playing the game because it's actually good and fun, the politics falls to the wayside at that point
Anonymous No.724138132 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
You don't fall for the executive, marketing, celebrity and consultant pressure of giving them a face.
No one really likes a character with a face, it's why most people are so randomly upset about the most banal shit.
The only reason that companies even make characters with faces, in spite of how bad they are and in spite of how the company really knows better, is because it provides job security to the market analysts and consultants who are the ones recommending characters with faces.
It provides job security, because they can reason that the inherently unappealing character with a face can somehow be made more appealing with more market research, more representation and more consultancy, as if it is somehow possible to please everyone.
Anonymous No.724138137 [Report] >>724138450 >>724138480
>>724137885
Chivalrous to a fault.
And she does talk some shit when people around her deserve it. I just mean she isn’t objectively superior to all men and constantly giving lectures about it.
Anonymous No.724138156 [Report] >>724138258
>>724137885
Stop watching anime.
Anonymous No.724138258 [Report]
>>724138156
don't listen to this fag, anime rules and all writers should be forced to watch it until they know all deres like abs and like it
Anonymous No.724138450 [Report] >>724138480 >>724138836
>>724138137
>she isn’t objectively superior to all men
good
>isn't constantly giving lectures about it.
bad
let her give lectures if she sees someone not act according to her beliefs.
niggas acting dishonorable? that should trigger her, making her challenge fools to a duel - even if they bring backup and she refuses to back down.
let her have a big mouth but make her eat her words when she deserves it.
Anonymous No.724138480 [Report] >>724138572
>>724137885
>>724138137
>>724138450
You guys are literally just making Joan of Arc.
Anonymous No.724138530 [Report] >>724138802
>>724133476 (OP)
Earn it.
Anonymous No.724138572 [Report]
>>724138480
>that story of her throwing the whores out of her camp
I fucking kneel
Anonymous No.724138713 [Report]
Make her an absolute Olga
Anonymous No.724138760 [Report] >>724139214 >>724139387 >>724139450 >>724139872
>>724133476 (OP)
needs a futa cock
Anonymous No.724138783 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
To me, it's as simple as avoiding:
>bringing up misandry or neo-politics (specially if the setting is in the past/future) out of the blue
>give me a reason to believe why she's strong, smart, capable, agile, etc. (most importantly if she used to be a normal civilian at the beginning of her story)
>do not let her win impossible scenarios without backing it up logically somehow (i.e. those fight scenes where an average-sized woman fist fights a professional security guard who is a giant bulk monster man and wins)
Honestly, all of these rules apply to male characters as well, but female characters seem to be the bigger culprits of this lately.
Anonymous No.724138802 [Report] >>724138942
>>724138530
Fact that giant boobs and muscles don'go together irl is a fucking travesty, its a perfect combination
Anonymous No.724138836 [Report] >>724139047
>>724138450
At one point, the protagonist apologizes for almost getting them all killed. Warrior girl basically says ‘don’t be a pussy. Keep being brave to a fault.’
But she mostly gets triggered by the shifty third member of the group.
Anonymous No.724138838 [Report] >>724138974
dont make her perfect and dont make the men around her blithering idiots that cant feed or dress themselves
Anonymous No.724138942 [Report]
>>724138802
Truly.
Anonymous No.724138974 [Report]
>>724138838
>dont make the men around her blithering idiots
that's the point that always gets me
why is the only way to make a chick competent by making everyone else around her retarded?
because it feels like that's what everyone is doing with their characters
Anonymous No.724138983 [Report]
Ms Brisby.
If you watch Secret of NIMH and go "Wow, Ms Brisby is such a strong female character" then you can write strong female characters.
If you watch it and go "Wow, what a sexist movie, Ms Brisby didn't even punch anyone in the dick!" then you don't and can't write strong female characters.
Anonymous No.724139025 [Report]
muscle girls are for closeted
Anonymous No.724139030 [Report]
alcoholism
Anonymous No.724139047 [Report]
>>724138836
sounds like die-hard D&D paladins and to an extent klingons (just replace honor with more/other virtues)
Anonymous No.724139143 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
canadian girl design must return.
Anonymous No.724139173 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Make her brave, plucky, righteous, strong in her beliefs and competent. Most writers, especially wectoid writers, can't do this.

Also >>724135382
Anonymous No.724139180 [Report]
It's not really that hard. Just pick one of the 500 different personalities / character archetypes that people enjoy and build your character around that. The "cocky know it all" is not one of them, unless you use it as a spring board for character developement. A good example is that faggot MC from tales of the abyss, he's practically the same as these modern female MCs. The only difference is that his cockiness actually leads to him facing consequences and afterwards he's on a journey to fix himself. The "girlboss" archetype or whatever you wanna call it basically never changes, that's why it's so disliked.
Anonymous No.724139214 [Report]
>>724138760
This but unironically.
Anonymous No.724139387 [Report]
>>724138760
Nier naively though his ass was safe after he quit selling himself
Anonymous No.724139450 [Report]
>>724138760
This + she bdsm's and rapes boys
Anonymous No.724139657 [Report]
Problem with westoid writers is that they try to write "le realistic" female characters, and then put them in unrealistic positions
Skylar White being an infamous assassin in fantasy feudal japan or shit pike that is obviously a dead fuckibg concept, yet its exactly what they try to do every time.
Or they just write an insufferable man and give him an ugly female face(hello modern warhammer)
Anonymous No.724139705 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
I want to FUCK Wendy Corduroy.
Anonymous No.724139872 [Report] >>724141229
>>724138760
Finally a good post. Also futa lumberjacks and cowgirls/farmworkers are peak.
Anonymous No.724140558 [Report] >>724148439
>>724133476 (OP)
No matter how big her muscles are, she needs to keep feminine proportions, aka big boobs, butt, cute face, cute hair, hourglass shape.
Anonymous No.724141229 [Report]
>>724139872
>futa cowgirls/farmworkers
Turn me into a minority and send me to the era of slavery but instead of murder and overwork, they all rape, milk and abuse dark bois
Anonymous No.724141264 [Report] >>724142473 >>724142592
>>724133476 (OP)
what do you call this type of woman?
Anonymous No.724141409 [Report]
>>724135202
i refuse
Anonymous No.724141553 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
>Whats the secret to making a compelling and strong female main character that doesn’t immediately offend or cause gamers to throw raging tantrums?
Give her a cute face, feminine personality and charm. Super easy shit, just make a regular female but comically physically strong. No one will be "offended" or "insecure", we just don't like retarded ugly femgoblins that spout plebbit feminist one liners that you can arf arf and seal clap to.
Anonymous No.724142162 [Report]
>>724135202
/thread
Anonymous No.724142416 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
You know how they say you have to be smart to write a smart character? To whatever extent that happens to be true, it's not necessarily true for designing a compelling, likeable character. What you DO need is the ability to appreciate a good personality, and to some extent understand why you like it and how that personality works. If this all sounds confusing, give up immediately.
Anonymous No.724142473 [Report]
>>724141264
wife
Anonymous No.724142495 [Report]
>>724136679
Only if she gets raped by bandits/goblins at least once.
Anonymous No.724142592 [Report]
>>724141264
femdom machine
Anonymous No.724142987 [Report]
bunch of crabs itt
Anonymous No.724144494 [Report]
>>724136212
i love hyper so much
Anonymous No.724144768 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
Make half of her dialogue consist of how she wants to get married
Anonymous No.724145647 [Report]
I like art where Wendy has freckles on her butt.
Anonymous No.724146005 [Report]
>>724133476 (OP)
It's not possible. Only faggots play games with female protags.
Anonymous No.724148237 [Report] >>724149727
>>724133476 (OP)
Having it written by something not living in north america or western europe
Anonymous No.724148439 [Report]
>>724140558
Jizzlane! My love!
Anonymous No.724149117 [Report]
>she can only be strong if she's an obnoxious roid freak!!
Anonymous No.724149124 [Report]
Remember her!
Anonymous No.724149358 [Report]
Anonymous No.724149727 [Report]
>>724148237
Literally everyone outside of those two places is unironically intimidated by the concept of a girl who isn't a human pet.