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Now that the dust has settled, which is the definitive experience.

FES or Reload

All three are good
Fes atmosphere
PSP play femc
Reloaded gameplay

>>724167762 (OP)
Why did they make Reload a game key card, shit bums me the fuck out.

>>724167762 (OP)
Now that Reload is getting the classic music, I can't think of one thing that Reload doesn't do better than the other two.
That being said, it's still worth playing FES and Portable if you like Persona games, the old OG P3 FMVs have sovl and even Portable has redeeming qualities like FeMC, the music, etc.
I just wish they went all-in on turning P3P into a visual novel by actually drawing the backgrounds instead of just taking low res screenshots of FES's overworld. P3P is a hard sell for people because of that.

>>724167762 (OP)
FES for tone, style, characterization, theming, impact, cinematography and meaningful gameplay.

FES will give you everything that is Persona 3, except for the female protagonist, making it definitive.

However in full disclosure I started on the wrong leg with Reload from the get-go, when the MC cared about the coffins rather than being the sociopath I loved. (FeMC is a psychopath instead, capable of base emotion, making her route also a valuable second run.)

>>724168510
Portable is great, it was so good it made me think earnestly about not getting Reload.

>>724168460
What?

>>724167762 (OP)
For your kind, reload.

>>724167853
fpbp

>>724170210
does it have the game on the disc? so lucky

>>724170210
>european
>ps4 version
grim

>>724170461
>does it have the game on the disc?
What do you mean. What else is it gonna have on it?

>>724167762 (OP)
FES is better. Reload just adds too many convenience options and is easier than FES even on Merciless. Normal shadows can be easily avoided in Tartarus whereas the same cannot be said in FES among other things.

>>724167762 (OP)
Reload after the new patch with the original songs.

>>724168460
Pure greediness from Sega sadly. Even if nintendo ends up launching those rumered less storage cheaper cartridges, turd parties would still pick the game KWAB card eveytime

>>724168460
>>724171028
Why do you care? Catridges have a life-span of like 5 years. You're better buying it digital

FFES is the only way to play P3. Never buy the remake.

nigger nigger nigger

>>724167853
I like how you need to manually activate the Navigator's abilities in battle now instead of them being kind of a glorified NPC with viewable stats.

>Digital Premium edition comes with "DLC pack"
>This isn't actually the season pass with extra content, it's just costumes and BGMs from older games, you have to buy the season pass separately

Why are Atlus such scumbags when it comes to DLC? Do people actually buy all these personas that were cut from the base game to sell separately?

>>724167762 (OP)
FES.

P3 RETARDED is nothing more than a yet another butchered Unreal engine DEI-make, with shitton of content cuts, censorship, and raped art, OST and gameplay.

>>724167762 (OP)
Reload just does everything inherently better. I can understand why people would be more fond of the OG for nostalgia reasons but if I stand back and look at everything objectively then it goes
Reload > FES >>>>> Portable (this is only for trannies nowadays desu)

>>724176956
Trannyload does nothing better. It removes entire S-Link chapters, fucks up the soundtrack and art design, and generally sweeps the whole "Memento mori, motherfucker!" theme under a rug. Cinematography is way worse, pacing is way worse, and everything is more handholdy to boot.

>>724177462
>It removes entire S-Link chapters
From FES? Cause no? What are you even going on about there because the social links are literally unchanged. Anyways you're wrong. lol at trying to pretend that FES has good pacing as well. Reload still suffers from it a bit but the new events and stuff at least help a bit in that regard and at fleshing out both everyone and strega a tad.

Anyways go watch a movie if all you care about is some lighting.

>>724177864
>From FES? Cause no? What are you even going on about there because the social links are literally unchanged.
Found the underaged zoomer shillfag.
It was all over the discussion boards and news.

Can't have a "strong female" feel indifferent about her education and future careers, and ESPECIALLY not be worried about her weight in 2024+1!

And don't get me even started on all those cleaned up off-screen deaths and total removal of the creeper tranny and homo characters, which made Jewtaku cheer in joy.

>>724177864
You're just a faggot.
FES beats the living shit out of P3 Retarded.

>>724177864
>Anyways go watch a movie if all you care about is some lighting.
Lighting, cinematography, stage design, atmosphere, soundtrack and game balance are crucial parts of a story and character -driven genre such as JRPGs, nigga.

>>724178028
Oh. They fixed some of the mild filler that didn't do anything in a rank. Right, yeah. End of the world.
> and total removal of the creeper tranny and homo characters
You're mad they removed fags? Weird.
>>724178125
Most of this is wrong. Yukari is literally unamericanized for example and more accurate to her original charater. They UNCHANGED her.

Anyways like I told the other guy go watch a movie

>>724178194
Good thing none of that was ruined then.

>>724178208
>They fixed some of the mild filler that didn't do anything in a rank
Once again, incorrect, and failing to see the bigger picture.
They BUTCHERED the character development of a character, because it was "too problematic" for the Twitter audiences.

There's countless similar edits and cuts in the demake.

>You're mad they removed fags?
Yes. Because they were being made FUN OF.
Apparently, gays being potential sexual predators in Shinjuku is too much for the alphabeth-soup people in the West.

Censorship is NEVER good.

>Anyways like I told the other guy go watch a movie
Go back to Twatter and take your butchered demake with you.

>>724178503
They LITERALLY announced that they're getting the OG vocalist to re-record the soundtrack, because everyone hated the soulless as fuck remixes.
You cannot white wash this shit, Anon.

>>724171342
>Catridges have a life-span of like 5 years.
on what fucking planet

The Full Moon boss theme remix is one of my biggest favorites of the Reload remixes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NjzKg9lvo

I only played the original and Reload still didn’t feel completely definitive. It’s inconsistently ugly, in that some parts look good and others look extremely lacking in detail. Making it through new Tartarus locations in a single day is too easy now, sneaking up on enemies is a joke. The best part to me was the fact that physical is no longer the steaming garbage it felt in P3 although it went a bit too far at some points. I was basically unstoppable as soon as I got Siegfried.

Portable

>>724168510
If you want an easier game and don't want to engage in the fatigue mechanic then get Reload

>>724178586
>re-record
Where are you getting re-recording from? Just seems to be adding the FES original recordings

>>724179917
>fatigue mechanic
Utterly pointless mechanic since you can just swap out party members once they get fatigued. It works the exact same way in Reload and every other Persona game except with SP drain, which was really the main disadvantage of the tired status to begin with.
In P3P it's even more useless since there's items that can make you recover back to well-rested status instantly.

What is with youtubers saying Persona 3 Reload on Switch 2 has framepacing issues, they talk about it but none of the footage they show looks erroneous? is this just overzealous people like Digital Foundry shit talking an RPG they do not like?

>>724180454
>NOOOOO IT RUNS AT 30FPS
is the crux of the issue. We're at a point where 30FPS is too dated for the zoomers who only play games at 60 or above.

>>724180454
The frame pacing is evident in the demo

>>724168510
The classic music is only going to be playable during tartarus and battles. Not replacing the tracks during normal gameplay.

>>724180683
So what is frame pacing then? I'm watching the game get played right now, what am I supposed to be noticing?

>>724167762 (OP)
We all know it isn't the demake.

>>724167853
Based pros enthusiast dunking on the con cucks

>>724178194
the fart hour

>>724180180
>Only used in dungeons and combats
>When The Moon's Reaching Out Stars
B-b-but

>>724171028
>Pure greediness from Sega sadly
It's nintendo's fault for forcing developers to choose between a $16 game cart or a download only one, without even offering smaller cheaper carts or slower but cheaper install only carts. Every third party game with an actual cart has had to raise the prices of their game to compensate, like just compare them to other platforms and you'll see that switch 2 has to pay more, games which would be $60 become $70 and $70 becomes $80 and so on, and for the sake of parity digital has to pay those bloated prices as well. Obviously, the circumstances that Nintendo have set is shit all around, that's who you should be blaming.

>>724181859
But here's the kicker, these companies are already comfortable putting their games on steep discount sales on Steam. It's the equivalent of manufacturing some physicals for retail.

>>724182028
What? Fucking retard

Neither. If you want the most complete story you still need to play Portable.
Some remake

I wish I could like this game but I hate the social link system so much

>>724167762 (OP)
Original got great depressing atmosphere.

Reload looked like a great funny game.

>>724167762 (OP)
Reload, but FES is great too and has better animated cutscenes.
P3P is the only wrong answer.

>>724182570
P3 has the least intrusive and quickest social links. They got bloated and pacebreaking in p4 and especially p5 though.

>>724182889
>Original got great depressing atmosphere
Nice opinion, which spectrum warrior youtuber gave it to you? The game is about teaching you to enjoy your time, not dreading it.

Favorite Persona? (The Personas, not the games.)

>>724183884
3. Best characters, best aesthetics, best lore, coolest final boss, Thanatos is the coolest Persona and Strega are underrated.

>>724182259
Never call anyone retard ever again. Can't even grasp something this simple.

>>724167762 (OP)
FES for me. I just modded it up the other day

>>724184041
But is Thanatos your favorite Persona?

FES + PCSX2 + Party Control Plugin > Reload > P3P

P3P will only surpass Reload if the P4 Remake ends being slop (you-know-who becoming you-know-what) and proving that every purchase of Reload was a mistake.

>>724184541
>all this pseudo skyrim shit
just watch on youtube with 2x speed at this point lil bro, same experience

>>724185596
mad

>>724168460
It was also a lazy port.

>>724186186
keep coping lil bro

>>724177462
>pacing is way worse
How?

>>724186321
lmao what the fuck

>>724186331
NTA but it's the animations. The game will immediately feel like pajeets made it if you have played the original or have any kind of an eye for detail.
https://youtu.be/TVgNEpKORjY?list=PLVgaP5G4cWsLVd7XPW7dJjEjjYLdPfWvt&t=646

>>724167853
Reload has theurgy which ruins the gameplay though.

>>724186617
I've watched this three times, what are you trying to highlight?

>>724186967
someone like you just won't get it
enjoy the demake

>>724179917
>>724180421
Even if you do care, a Persona modder already got a prototype mod for it going. Shame guy is making a final boss atmosphere fix.

>>724187025
I guess I will, lol.

>>724186914
They did massively increase HP pools to compensate. Unfortunately, Crimson whatever is just an I Win button.

>>724180421
It's not a pointless mechanic at all in FES. You can't return to the hub to heal HP/SP without your tired teammates going home, and even if you do and use other party members instead, your tired MC will take more damage. This makes it riskier to continue, adding a risk/reward to the core gameplay mechanics in pushing through without healing, risking your MC dying after restocking, or returning home to fully refuel. It uses the limited amount of time you have in the calendar system much better than P3P and Reload, which is something a game like this should have.

>remake of something perfectly playable from 2006 without any issues
there should be a law that demakes can only be made for 30y+ works
fuck this shit

>>724187203
Siegfried my beloved

>>724186967
Without standards, it cannot be seen
sar

>>724187469
>there should be a law that demakes can only be made for 30y+ works
Just don't buy it. What is wrong with you?

>>724188093
It doesn't seem to be broken or anything, so I'm clueless on what is meant to be conveyed. I guess if your "standards" are so high you can't enjoy anything.

>>724187278
>and even if you do and use other party members instead, your tired MC will take more damage. This makes it riskier to continue
The MC is the only party character that can be manually controlled, so save scumming completely eliminates all risk, and there's teleporters every other floor in Tartarus.
>It uses the limited amount of time you have in the calendar system much better than P3P and Reload, which is something a game like this should have.
Except on the last day before a full moon where the tired mechanic gets thrown out the window? You literally cannot get tired on the last day so carefully managing an exploration schedule is a completely pointless endeavor.

>>724177462
trvke

>>724188341
This is what it looked like in the original btw

>>724188119
the effort put into that could have gone into a new creative work, but fatlus and modern gaming as a whole are creatively bankrupt and afraid to take risks, so they just opt for the easy route with remakes.

>>724184429
fucking
RETARD

>>724167762 (OP)
FES because it was made by the original devs.
P3P is "what if we took P3 and made it P4"
P3R is "what if we took P3 and made it P5"
Looking forward to the next P3 remake after P6 comes out.

>>724188687
If anything, (((modern gaming))) took notes from Fatlus.

I have taken Elizabeth out to the city and only now am I able to comprehend her greatness!

If you played FES with the party control mod
you
did
not
beat
the
game

>>724167762 (OP)
FES with party member mod.
I know how to use commands. I beat fes.
But i just really like playable party members in my jrpg, more so when they were playable in 1 and 2.

>>724184541
Huh? I played already edited ps2 games before but I didn't realize you can mod them like this?

>>724189061
I spent 60 hours of P4 golden not knowing i could control my cast kek

>>724188170
I can enjoy new things, just not when there is an older, superior, version of said thing.

>>724188687
And that's within their right, but I hardly see the point of the government stepping in.
>>724189053
I would say it hardly matters, as you either use Heal/Support, Knock Down, or Full Assault, but I guess I agree.

>>724190228
>as you either use Heal/Support, Knock Down, or Full Assault
You're expecting entirely too much from the 'people' who complain about it.

>>724189273
just persona games

>>724189765
>superior,
You retards are so delusional that you think there can't ever be anything postive about the remake or good. No, it has to be WORSE WORSE WORSE all because of a bunch of minor petty bullshit that doesn't matter to the experience
>O-O-OH BUT THIS ONE 5 SECOND CUT SCN-
I hope you get hit by a car

>>724188202
Saving everything for the last day is just playing like shit and will interfere with how you allocate the rest of your free time. It's just set up that way so your save file can't get soft locked. It doesn't invalidate a well designed feature that the rest of the crappy remakes didn't even try to do.

>>724180454
Persona 3 is turn-based so it's kinda weird to worry about stuff like this. I was literally able to run Persona 3 Reload on the laptop I use for uni so I highly doubt the Switch 2 can't run it

>>724193480
>DON'T EXPLOIT THESE STUPID GAME MECHANICS!!!!
I accept your concession.

>>724193672
So you completely lack reading comprehension? I'd love to see you even get close to maxing more than a few social links just saving every Tartarus visit to the last day every month.

>>724194004
>just saving every Tartarus visit to the last day every month.
That's literally how the game is set up. Mitsuru will even force you into Tartarus on the last day, the same day you can't get tired. So why bother exploring Tartarus before a full moon when you can just do it the night before?
You're forgetting that tiredness carries over into the next day too, so you can literally lose stat increases during class if you're sleeping during it. You're quite literally better off ignoring Tartarus entirely.
Nice "game mechanic" LMFAO.

>>724194334
Then you'll have no problem showing me your save file with all social links maxed out after only visiting Tartarus on the last days? Surely you have that to back up your weak ass argument, right anon? Surely you aren't just talking out of your ass trying to defend lazy ass changes brought about in crap remakes no one likes, right?

>>724167762 (OP)
fes is teh better and more balanced game and uncensored uncucked (they cahnged dialogue and made characters less bitchy adn less confrontentnial)

>>724194502
The only way to play this game is on an emulator or OG PS2/fat PS3 and I don't keep save files on an emulator for too long neither do I own either of those consoles, it's 2025.
That being said, I don't have to show you shit and it's completely irrelevant to this argument. Stay mad tho.

>>724194710
That's what I thought, I accept your concession.

>>724195035
No concession was given, you however got BTFO by a simple fact.

>>724193480
>Saving everything for the last day is just playing like shit and will interfere with how you allocate the rest of your free time
Are you retarded? Literally nothing happens on the last day in most if not all full moons. You'll have more free time and social links not spending it going to Tartarus every night because Tanaka and the Monk SLs exist.

Rerun was the perfect name for P4R and Atlus should have went with it despite the negative connotation.
>>724183884
I always look forward to getting Alice so it's probably that. She's always a big deal so it's fun going into a new game with building personas/demons towards fusing her in mind.
Yatsufusa was my favorite in 4. I hope Revival brings it back into the fold, once it has a model and animations again Atlus will reuse it in everything.
Reload cut some personas that needed new models though, including Oumitsunu, another quest persona I liked. Apparently Yatsufusa is in the P5 gacha with a model so maybe it has a chance.

>>724167762 (OP)
play the original

>>724195163
>"The mechanic doesn't matter! You can just wait til the last day and tiredness doesn't matter, it's irrelevant!"
>"You can't max all the social links if you do that, it's just there so you can't get soft locked."
>"DOESN'T MATTER I PLAY LIKE SHIT AND I CAN STILL BEAT THE GAME THAT MEANS ITS A BAD MECHANIC!!"
You argue like a child, but I'd expect no less of a faggot remake defender zoomer.

>>724195260
While it's true you don't want to make a ton of trips to Tartarus, FES is pretty strict if you're actually trying to max all the social links in a single playthrough, it's pretty much the only game in the series where has to be planned out, and that includes when you go to Tartarus. If you wait until the forced last day, you will not be maxing all the social links, I can assure you of that.

>>724195586
>>"You can't max all the social links if you do that, it's just there so you can't get soft locked."
Nta but how does more free time in the night translate to less chances to progress social links?
It's the complete opposite because some social links are only playable at night.

>>724195586
>FES is pretty strict if you're actually trying to max all the social links in a single playthrough
Absolutely not because there's more activities and things to do in Reload that will shave off time from the SLs, like the miniature activities you can participate into progress skills with the SEES members.

>>724195743
Because there are instances where you need things done in Tartarus before deadlines. Off the top of my head the old couple husband has to be rescued or he dies in Tartarus, making their link impossible to continue. There's a few other instances of it, too.

>>724195907
Unnecessary added fluff that doesn't matter because you just click the theurgy button and win all combat encounters in Reload.

>>724195982
>Off the top of my head the old couple husband has to be rescued or he dies in Tartarus,
Hostages were introduced in P3P, they weren't in FES.
The same game where you can stave off tiredness with a beverage you can buy at the school store.

>>724196065
>he doesn't know that theurgies were just redesigned fusion spells from the OG P3
LMFAO @ ur life.

So what I'm getting is that fesfags didn't even play the game

>>724196243
Par for the course for /v/ at least, kek.

>>724196197
Yeah that all sucks until you get Satan and Helel? Party members also didn't have them.

FES if you want gameplay
Reload if you want expanded story/character moments
I guarantee you most people would pick the latter despite what hardcore 3fags seem to believe.

>>724195907
Nah. P3R makes a lot of slight changes that make it easier to max out all social links compared to FES (still harder than P4 or P5 though), even doing the extra stuff it adds. Like without a guide (but with experience from playing P3 multiple times) I was able to max out all non-Aigis social links before Christmas in reload (with the link episodes done up to that point), I wouldn't have been able to do that in FES, the scheduling is way more strict.

>>724196351
>Party members also didn't have them.
You also have to actually play the game and survive long enough in fights/levels to actually get a theurgy in P3R, unlike P3/FES where all fusion spells required was two of the reqqed personas and enough HP/SP to pull off those moves.
Meaning you could literally just sit there spamming armageddon all day in the later parts of the game and healing up using the x100 healing items in your inventory.
Easy as fuck game, stupid as fuck mechanic.

>>724178208
>Anyways like I told the other guy go watch a movie
Oh my Science! Totally, my guy, they should just go watch a heckin movie!

>>724196671
That's cute, but Crimson Win Button is the single most unbalanced move in JRPG history.

>>724196671
And when do you have access to Armageddon in FES sweetie? And when do you have access to broken as fuck theurgies in Reload honey? Stop doing obvious trolling and use your brain for half a second.

>>724196865
>And when do you have access to Armageddon in FES sweetie?
When did I say that you would be able to use armageddon? It's somewhere in that exact sentence, give it another try.
>And when do you have access to broken as fuck theurgies in Reload honey?
Uh... the same times you would have access to those fusion spells in FES?
Armageddon comes when you craft both Helel and Satan, no different to how it was in FES.

>>724197068
>>724196739

>>724197068
Fusion spells are all weak as fuck in FES for the most part except for Armageddon which you get at the end of the game if you maxed out the social links needed for the last personas. Theurgies are unbalanced as fuck in Reload and break any semblance of difficulty you might otherwise get from the game. This isn't like a hot take or anything dude, anyone who has played both games can see it.

>>724197337
He's a shameless shill who is doing this to put food on his family's table. It's sad, but stop responding.

>>724170461
It doesn't have updates nor DLC, as is par for the course. >>724170502 Just thinks these are copied to the disc. Physical has been long dead.

>>724197337
>Fusion spells are all weak as fuck in FES for the most part
Scarlet Havoc + Thunder Call would like a word with you.
Thor + Siegfried carried me through FES.

>>724167853
fes and portable are enough

>>724197442
not him but it really does look like you're on the backfoot replying to yourself like this, really sad

>>724197569
You're brown.

>>724197495
Scarlet Havoc doesn't exist in FES, you braindead fucking chatbot.

>>724197680
>Scarlet Havoc doesn't exist in FES
OH NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHA
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Scarlet_Havoc

>>724197769
>it's so weak that I don't remember it existing
That's the point, dipshit. It's the single most powerful move in Reload to the point that it's disgusting.

>>724197680
OH NO NO NO
https://youtu.be/Co_ZHrL7siw?si=UGr3sAPYYJayi5hM&t=263

>>724197769
>ignores all resistances in Reload
Gee I wonder if that's why it's broken as fuck in that game... Nah let's keep shitposting instead.

>>724197850
>merely pretending to be retarded

>>724197943
Don't sign your posts.

>>724197769
>Doesn't ignore resistances in FES
It might as well have not existed, it's broken in P3R.

>>724178723
He's right actually. Everything Nintendo shat out since 3DS is using flash NAND for their cartridges. If you don't power up the games every 5 or so years you risk them getting corrupted.
lmao, tendies.

>>724197923
>>724197996
All theurgies ignore resistances. But fusion spells can be summoned without a gauge or meter, meaning you can do multiple fusion spells at any time without any timeout.

>>724197996
It's not like there's break skills in these games or anything.

>>724198150
Doesn't matter. Scarlet Havoc is so fucking broken that it kills every single boss in the game in one or two uses, which you WILL get as a matter of course. Eat shit, shill.

>>724197337
>he doesn't know about thunder reign

>>724198241
Physical breaks don't exist in fes. However, you can spam fusion skills of magical skills all you want.

>>724198264
>Scarlet Havoc is so fucking broken that it kills every single boss in the game in one or two uses
Really? Is that so?
Because Nyx avatar literally has like 14 different times it regenerates.
Meaning that to beat Nyx avatar in Persona 3 FES, all you have to do is spam armageddon while healing up every other turn, while in P3R you have to actually play the game to develop that theurgy.

>>724198326
Of course I know about it. It still requires Emperor being maxed out and is level 57, so you'll still be pretty deep into the game before you get it.

FES does not have Color your night or It's going down now.

>>724198469
>while healing up every other turn
You mean using a rare Soma? Because that's what is required to snap back from an Armageddon casting.

>>724198594
>and is level 57, so you'll still be pretty deep into the game before you get it.
So about the same point you get scarlett havoc

>Persona 3 FES is HA-
https://youtu.be/qqcowH5r0hc?si=8nL8YE9zTCNDySmK

>>724167853
based positivity chad

>>724198714
>positivity in the face of blatant manipulative consumerism
That's called being a wind-up toy.

>>724198667
Thunder Reign can still be null/drain/repel'd so no, it's not nearly as broken.

>>724198618
>You mean using a rare Soma?
The reaper drops 1-2 every fight, and armageddon allows you to instakill him. So yeah, you could just farm monad for somas and precious eggs.

>>724199084
>just grind the reaper, bro!
You lost, retard. Fucking hell.

>>724198618
>you can only use somas
Can I offer you an egg in these trying times? Oh you can also farm these, whoops!

>>724199136
>nooo, don't grind LIKE THAT!!!
https://youtu.be/sSgqdSZWz9o?si=vW7g7f3x_IsoPWbX

Why are the boys in the Persona games wearing towels during the onsen scenes when onsens in Japan require men and boy to be completely naked and only allow women and girls to cover up with towels?

>>724199283
>UHHH ACTUALLY THE PROPER WAY TO BEAT THE GAME IS TO GRIND THE SUPERBOSS WITH A YOUTUBE STRATEGY UNTIL YOU HAVE ENOUGH HEALING ITEMS TO BRUTE FORCE THE END BOSS
You are brown.

>>724199084
>>724199158
>>724199283
Okay I'm convinced these are actual P3R shills now. I wouldn't put it past Atlus USA.

>>724198809
>what is elec break

>>724199358
Welcome to 4chan.org

>>724199336
You lost bro. This is giving me second hand embarrassment.

>>724199336
>no argument
Your concession is accepted.

>>724199536
>>724199556
Brown.

>>724199336
You literally have to beat the reaper to access monad. He stops being a superboss late game really early.

>>724199385
>having to waste turns keeping elec break up(in a game without party control mind you) so you can shock locking vs using the unresistible phys attack that kills shit outright
Yep, it's still way more broken.

>>724199584
Post your hand.

>>724199607
You don't seem to understand that his strategy for beating the last boss is grinding the superboss for drops. I will let you stew with that, if you don't get it, there is no hope for you.

>>724199683
The superboss is Elizabeth.

>>724167762 (OP)
Reload. I always used longswords in FES so Reload is an objective upgrade (except for the dub which is objectively worse)

>>724199658
Not giving you bolshevik faggots my information in any way. Nice try, though.
>>724199731
They're both superbosses. They're both harder than the final boss.

>>724199683
>beating the last boss is grinding the superboss for drops
You get a surefire way to beat the "superboss" in one turn as soon as you craft an endgame persona.
Nice "superboss" LMFAO.

>>724199779
>won't post his hand to prove his whiteness
You're not white.

I absolutely love what they did with the final block. It looks so beautiful.

>>724167762 (OP)
I think FES with the party control mod is the best having played it both with and without.

>>724199731
You don't even need to beat Elizabeth to access monad, this is the worst falseflag ever.
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Monad_Depths

Ken is so cute in the remake

>>724167762 (OP)
Reload pretty much fixes every single narrative flaw the original had so for that alone it's superior.

>>724199828
Post your hand, then.

>>724199779
>They're both superbosses. They're both harder than the final boss.
Absolutely not, Nyx avatar is much harder than the reaper because he goes through 14 different cycles and you can't just instakill him with a fusion move, you have to do that one at least 14 different times.

>>724199930
I'm not the one calling everyone else non-white.

>>724199892
>elizabeth's final request is to go beat her on the 10th floor of monad
Yeah no shit the superboss asks you to beat a weaker boss to gain access to her.
>hurr she's new game plus only
Yeah atlus sucked at making superbosses accessible

>muh difficulty
Literally no version of Persona 3 was never hard. The only actual difficult content in that game can be counted on one hand: Elizabeth and The Answer. The former because it's basically a puzzle you have to solve and the latter because fuck you level grind again starting from L20 lmao

t. beat FES, P3P, and now Reload all when they released. Don't @ me if you disagree.

>>724199994
Nyx is a bunch of small HP pools with absolutely nothing difficult behind them. The reaper at least hits like a truck. You are either a bot or an indian who has never played this game.
>>724200059
Cry more, brown.

>>724200124
Finally a sensible fucking reply.

>>724200131
>The reaper at least hits like a truck.
And that goes out of the window when you can use the first turn to instakill him. Do you have trouble keeping up?

>>724200124
I can smell the ESL off this post.

>>724200218
You at least need a niche strategy to beat him. You can easily beat Nyx blind with absolutely no strategy. You are retarded.

>>724200131
>still won't post his hand
No one's falling for it, Raj.

>>724200293
>kike movie
Enjoy your shill thread, you braindead golem.

>>724200281
>You at least need a niche strategy to beat him.
>"niche strategy" is ambushing him from behind like with any other normal enemy at a high enough level
Damn dude, I guess FES players are smarter than I'm giving them credit for! By this logic, every fight in this game requires a "niche strategy"! Such intelligence, very profound.

>>724200281
>opening a fight with your attack that does max damage is a niche strategy

>>724200396
Yep, still harder than the last boss. Persona players are indeed retards.

>>724200281
>You at least need a niche strategy to beat him
Who, the Reaper? He has no weaknesses but also no resists so just hit him with your hardest shit, buff up, and hope Yukari actually heals the entire party instead of one person at a time so you can focus on damage instead of babysitting.

>>724200498
No, you need to stunlock him with Thunder Reign. You just exposed yourself as a retard who has no idea what he's talking about! Many such cases!

>>724200562
I never had to do that. I was always more of a Niflheim guy myself.
Speaking of, I wish they made the unique ice attack Niflheim instead of Diamond Dust in Reload. It looked so much cooler, big ice blocks forming rapidly over the target.

>>724200680
Kill yourself. Final post in this godawful jeet shill thread.

Watching this schizo have a meltie has made my day, thank you /v/.

>>724167762 (OP)
Reload > Portable > FES

>>724200807
It's always the guys who think they're the only ones who played the original who have the biggest melty.

>>724200931
It's sad to see them take a final stand on Millennial hill.

>>724200931
You're the schizo having the melty dude. The fact that you're still barfing the same responses nonstop says it all.

>>724200931
Has this schizo even played the original? He didn't know hostages weren't a FES mechanic >>724196103

>>724201008
>muh schizophrenia
Found the kike.

>>724201008
I'm the one who wrote the post he's replying to and I assure you, I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about the FESnigger who didn't even know hostages weren't a P3FES mechanic.

>>724201090
So you're responding to yourself LOL thanks for admitting it.

>>724201015
Probably not, there are posters on /v/ who think they're shitposting masterminds by "spreading chaos" in certain threads pretending to be one side of a fandom hating the other.

>>724197475
>physical is dead because it does't have the DLC (Downloadable Content)
Such a weird cope. You can play the entire game from beginning to end straight from the disc. Just admit Switch got cucked

>>724201140
>So you're responding to yourself
Where did you get that?

>>724201189
I spread chaos by undermining jews. What're you gonna do, Moishe?

>>724201285
yeah man getting into nerd arguments about videogames you have rose tinted glasses for is totally killing the jews.

>>724201230
>Weird cope
Is that why you waited almost 2 hours? I'm still going to say it how it is. Idiot.

Why do people even care about the Fem MC? Is it all Waifu-ism?

>>724201503
I do it in every thread. I'm the reason that you can't call on random goyim to defend you anymore. It's call coming to a head, Moishe.

>>724201230
Also, you intentionally omitted the update.

>>724201573
so you're being a jew's good little lapdog causing infighting amongst threads about japanese games, specifically from one of the last countries still fighting the jew threat?
hmmmmmm

>>724201670
>uh actually you're doing my bidding, goy! teehee!
Nah. You rape children in underground tunnels.

>>724201563
You know exactly who and what it is.
Certain kinds of "people" who only care about Persona as a chance to walk around as a girl in a highschool building and do cute girl shit. They really don't care about anything else.
P3 already had a FeMC and her name is Aigis.

>>724201563
Its about trans representation.

So in the end, it turns out the one crying about shills was actually a jeet shill themselves. What a twist!

I dislike Reload because it would have been the perfect chance to create a unified P3 experience with the content from both FES and Portable.
Also, for the really weird balance choices such as them overbuffing phys and kneecapping Mitsuru/Yukari.

>>724201951
Many such cases.

>>724202083
>unified P3 experience with the content from both FES and Portable
They did. They included all the content except the playable tranny. They even reworked most of her exclusive social links into the actual game.

>>724201935
>>724201940
While I do like the fact that the party has social links like 4 and 5. It really feels like the rest of the game is base P3 with a pink coat of paint.

>>724202083
>and portable
Too bad the director who had no part in portable preferred to have his vision in tact and not tampered with cheap fanservice shit like femc.
>Overbuffing Phys
Phys is always strong endgame in SMT/Persona games. In 3, Magic is still really good, especially since MC gets a sword that buffs ALL magic attacks without having to waste a skill slot on it. Ice/Elec also have a good chance to freeze/shock opponents.

>>724202083
FeMC is non-canon. Deal with it.

>>724202271
I always thought physical was pretty weak in original 3. Felt like there was no reason to take it when magic existed.

>>724202478
It's because it was. You have three different phys resistances to worry about and only eight skill slots to work with. Physical theurgies ignoring resistances alone makes them magnitudes better in P3R.

>>724201563
Because she's cute
Playing as her made me feel like a girl

>>724202581
>casualization is good
You're brown.

>>724202682
Where the fuck did I say that retard? I hate P3R, I was just answering his question.

>>724201541
>you waited almost 2 hours
huh? I just replied when I saw your post. Why does that matter? Are you retarded? You replied to that psot 7 hours after the fact
>>724201583
Of course things that came after the game got released aren't going to magically be on the disc. That has always been the case and doesn't change the fact that the entire main game is on the disc though.

>>724202785
>Physical theurgies ignoring resistances alone makes them magnitudes better in P3R.
Are you retarded? Or just a bot?

>>724202840
Yeah? Physical is better in P3R than it is in FES because you can ignore resistances. Do you lack reading comprehension or something?

>>724202840
NTA but saying the theurgies made physical magnitudes better in P3R than FES means they are much stronger than they ever were in FES, on account of ignoring resistances. It has nothing to do with him liking one or the other more. You'd be able to parse that if you could speak english.

>>724202271
>Too bad the director who had no part in portable preferred to have his vision in tact and not tampered with cheap fanservice shit like femc.
P3R's director is full of shit because he ruined P3 in all sorts of other ways anyway.

>>724202916
>>724202921
OOOGA BOOGA OOOGA BOOOGA OOOGA BOOGA OOGA BOOGA

>>724202925
>P3R's director is full of shit because he ruined P3 in all sorts of other ways anyway.
He didn't, you simply have a preference for the FES version and have a mental disability which prevents you from every enjoying anything that you weren't first exposed to. Every change scares and angers you. That's probably linked to autism, unironically.

>>724202181
>>724202271
>>724202356
>muh canon
>muh trannies
you retards are full of shit and the reason why we got a halfassed remake of P3P's Male Route as a "remake"

>>724202581
Even without counting Theurgies physical felt much stronger than before. It could just be because they added Boosts and Amps when they previously didn't have any though.

>>724203136
Phys is balanced around not having boost/amps because it has the ability to crit and is frequently less resisted.

>>724203101
>P3P's Male Route
Persona 3's original release was male only.
Persona 3 FES was male MC only as well.
P3P added a FeMC as some retarded fanservice as decreed by some third party in the company.
The movies were about the male MC.
All the manga are about the male MC
Persona Q had the male MC only.
Persona Q 2 included the FeMC who had to come to terms with the fact she's non-canon as part of the story.
Persona 3 Reload is male MC only.
The fighting game spinoffs refer to the P3 MC as a guy.

The FeMC was a terrible inclusion that fucked with the narrative, symbols and themes of the game. Even P3P itself recommends you play as a guy first. FeMC is worthless.

>>724167762 (OP)
Portable, and not cause Fem
cause i just think the story animations are too slow, i have imagination, so i can work better with the visual novel ways

>>724203101
Good. Fuck you well poisoners and attention whores.

>>724203321
>>724203638
P3P was just a training method for new blood to get their feet wet while the major players in Atlus were busy working on Vengeance/Metaphor.
They gave you an easier game with less content and charged more for it and you were fine because "at least the FEMCfags are upset".

They could have significantly better in every aspect.

>>724203302
I get the idea behind it, I just didn't think it worked out in practice. Junpei felt like he ended up as the weakest character because he relied so much on physical damage.

>>724203321
>all of that to still come to the wrong conclusion about what happened in Q2
Lol lmao even.

>>724204148
Reload is everything I wanted out of a remake minus the original voice track and a Demonica outfit set.

>>724204148
>They gave you an easier game
Debatable.
>with less content
More content than FES by a mile.
> and charged more for it
Worth it, best remake I've ever played.
>"at least the FEMCfags are upset".
I literally never think about them except when I come to these threads where you're screaming and spewing salty tears all over the place because you can't be a girl.

>I bet I can make you homocidal with a single voice
>you're on

>>724204148
>P3P was just a training method for new blood to get their feet wet while the major players in Atlus were busy working on Vengeance/Metaphor.
That's not how atlus is structured anon. Vengeance is production studio 1, metaphor is production studio 3. Those are separate teams with separate staff. You should have said Persona 6

>>724204209
Junpei's problem in the older versions was his really weird skill curve. However, even at his worst, I don't think Junpei was ever the weakest party member.

>>724204390
>More content than FES by a mile.
*after the dlc
>Worth it, best remake I've ever played.
you already established that you have no taste
>I literally never think about them except when I come to these threads where you're screaming and spewing salty tears all over the place because you can't be a girl.
I prefer door-kun and i still think you're a faggot

>Biggest issue a lot of people have in P3 the answer was Aigis has no compendium whatsoever.
>Reload gives her TWO compendiums.
amazing.
>>724204447
I think Junpei's skill curve was on purpose. Around the time you start gaining new party members, his usefulness drops off a cliff which makes you more likely to use other people, which aligns with his character arc of feeling worthless and unheroic like he wanted to be. Then he awakens to Trismegistus and becomes Gold. It happens in Reload too, where his skill set is all over the place and uncoordinated until Chidori's death and his Persona learns more focused and powerful skills.

>>724204447
I was running Yukari and Akihiko and they frequently felt more integral to the party even late game. I've never used Ken or Koromaru in any of the versions so it's hard for me to say on them.

>>724204394
Erin Fitzgerald truly is a masterful artist. She's so fucking terrible that she has plausible deniability as a retard.

>>724167762 (OP)
I hate to say it, but it's FES. The Tactics system is much more engaging. Reload becomes a bit of a bore during the later parts of the game. Episode Aigis has some challenge, but that's about it

>>724204710
Ken, Koromaru and Metis are the best party for Aigis in The Answer, especially Reload.

>>724199320
I'm gonna be honest anon, I do not want to see bare male ass in my video game.
I would think no one at Atlus wants that either

>>724200124
I'm @ing you
I don't know if I just suck at JRPGs but the Tartarus fights in FES were way harder. Reload and Portable, not as much

>>724205029
>brown baby rolling its eyes
Even babies know that jeet is a faggot.

>>724204710
>>724204952
The main reason why you run Ken/Koro/Metis is for perfect coverage among party members and Yukari getting utterly demolished by that terrible learning curve.
Koro is honestly not the best 3rd member in the Answer, especially in PS2, but you'd inevitably run into some degree of elemental redundancy on stronger picks (Akihiko/Mitsuru) or mechanics technically kneecapping them (no Great Vorpal Blade for Junpei IIRC).

you fags need to play Raidou. If I don't get a Raidou 2 remaster I'm killing everyone ITT

>>724205029
Just try it man, it took me a second playthrough to get it

>>724205204
Bought the remaster but the combat just felt so weird and clunky I stopped playing after a while

>>724205285
It took you a second playthrough to learn how to set tactics for your party members?

>>724178125
>The new ENG voice actors are worse
If you genuinely believe this, I don't think you have functioning ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NczSohhs-kM

>>724205693
I thought they were pretty hit or miss the first time I played it
The only annoying part is that the more useful tactics (Full Assault and Knock Down) aren't available until Fuuka joins

>>724205947
New Akihiko is as bad as old Fuuka. I don't know what they were smoking with him, he just sounds so off.

I just want to say I was robbed not having superpowers as a kid and going on secret adventures, ROBBED

Persona fans are so fucking whiny, my God.

>>724206205
>he didn't go on adventures watched over by glowniggers because he was a GATE kid
Sad. Grim, even.

>>724206186
you're fucking insane. I like Liam O'Brien but he did not suit Akihiko at all.

>>724206235
Every single thread on /v/ has dedicated spergs who act retarded on purpose to try and ruin discussion. You will see them repeat the exact same points over and over ad infinitum. I'm pretty sure they're a discord group full of assmad children.
Go into Xenoblade threads and you'll see the exact same behavior here.

>>724168460
kinda sucks since it means I won't own a physical copy

>>724206331
>assmad children
You can call them trannies and kikes, you weak faggot.

>>724206273
I was, they just made me retarded instead, the woman doing the test had black gums and she was german which I found out and out of place for a rural town

>>724206480
>she was german
Ok kike.

>>724206379
Overuse of an insult, especially if you're not even sure if it's accurate, reduces its efficiency. It's like me calling you a nigger but you're white. Who cares? That kind of middleschool level aggression doesn't matter.

>>724206186
Casting vs direction. New Akihiko is fine, he just sounds older than he should.
The only VA I can say is worse in Reload is Yukari, but it's clear they wanted to take her character in a different direction, so she makes sense for that

>>724206529
>if you're not even sure if it's accurate
Found the tranny kike.

>>724206519
absolutely not, get your facts straight

>>724206276
I'm not saying he was especially fitting, but the new voice just sounds too deep to the point it's ridiculous. The rest of the new ones I can at least live with, surprisingly.

>>724206657
beep boop

>>724206673
>but the new voice just sounds too deep to the point it's ridiculous.
It's not even that deep, it's perfectly suited for a highschool student that trains every moment of every day. I went to highschool with jocks with MUCH deeper voices.

>>724206794
>I went to highschool with jocks with MUCH deeper voices.
He knows, he sucked them off.

>>724178723
I've been feeling less excited to buy physical cartridges because of their lifespan anon, it's true, I give them 12 to 15 years to fucking die entirely.

I'm gonna be honest. I'm still gonna play P4Demake because it's the last good faglus jrpg.

>>724208120
>he didn't play the Devil Survivors
Kill yourself, larping brown boy.

>>724167762 (OP)
There isn't a definitive experience.
Vanilla lacks content every other version adds.
FES lacks QoL and content Portable and Reload have.
Portable looks the worst, lacks FES content, and lacks environmental storytelling/immersion.
Reload lacks the atmosphere of the original, has worse music, and doesn't have Portable's content.

>>724208474
Is it at least safe to say that FES completely supersedes vanilla P3?

>>724209248
No it casualizes the entire game and makes it dogshit unforgivable.

P1+2>PSP
FES>Reload
P4>Golden
P5>Royal
SJ>Redux

>>724208474
FES with mods

>>724210141
Even you will admit that DeSu has better rereleases.
>hurr durr no Compendium for you, goy!

>>724210886
Yeah duh

>>724167762 (OP)
first time player here. which one should i play? is portable any good?

>>724167762 (OP)
fes is superior

You just got hit by Megidolaondyne, what do you do?

>>724210757
l-lewd mods?

>>724208576
enlighten us on the persona game with all the content

for me its reload

>>724167762 (OP)
Persona 3 reload is woke slop