Thread 724178447

Shotguns are terrible for Multiplayer. There is nothing fun about dying the instant someone turns the corner with one

But killing someone at in the instant they turn a corner is awesome. Have you tried playing at your equipped weapons optimal distance?

>>724178447 (OP)
It's either snipers or shotguns that seem to get you guys riled up, despite those guns being a staple of the genre.
Why the sudden switch up?

What did the robot say to the centipede?

>>724178447 (OP)
Anon you gotta be sneaky, you gotta be quick.

>>724178580
niggers with 0 skills who spray'n pray crying that anything with a bare minimum skill is unfair
and that includes spatial awareness

Grapplers are terrible for Multiplayer. There is nothing fun about dying the instant someone gets within grab range

>>724178674
You're being immature

>>724178580
shooty games are just cqc with energy shields now so snipers don't get to shine

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>>724178447 (OP)
Depends on the game. TF2-esque shotguns that take multiple hits to kill not only feel great to use, but are also more fun to play AGAINST than rapid-fire weapons since you can at least try to dodge some of the shots

>>724178447 (OP)
At least vs shotguns you can just not get close. But vs sniper...........

>>724178447 (OP)
klay world was fucking based

>>724178447 (OP)
I was a certified NOOB CANNONER in CS 20 years ago

>>724179029
This. Snipers are just shotguns except there's no range cutoff.
FUCK SNIPER ABUSERS

>>724178447 (OP)
Halo did it best. Shotguns are one hit kill, but have a very short distance, and only spawn in a few locations on the map, if any. Keeps it balanced while also feeling useful

no dilly dallying

sniper rifles in vidya are just shotguns that fire slug rounds
why don't they just make shotguns that fire slug rounds?

>>724180532
battlefield did it and it was also op

>>724179008
>Tf2 tranny talks about the game when no one brought it up in the first place.
Go back to your containment threads.

If shotguns in real life are so OP why doesn’t everyone just use them all the time?

>>724181107
In real life they have two very different use cases.
>Hunting small game and birds in swamps and forests since firing the pellets at something a few hundred yards away won't completely destroy the meat
>Killing people in tight foxholes where they get shredded immediately
That latter case is why the German Empire in WWI wanted shotguns banned from the battlefield and accused America (the main army deploying trench guns) of warcrimes

>>724178447 (OP)
Whyd this faggot stop making videos?

>>724181845
Claymation is hard, and he was consistently uploading videos for like a decade

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>>724181107
Because modern rifles simply mog them in every single way in actual combat scenarios with better range, better effectiveness vs body armor, lighter and less bulky ammo, and so on.
They had their place when submachine guns were standard, body armor was shit, and combat often occurred within trenches; but nowadays shotguns are mostly around just to bust locks.

>>724178447 (OP)
>when you get sniped by a secret snipper
>when you get blown up by a grenade
>when you step on a pancake mine
>when you get your head blown out from under the apple
>when you get murdered
>when you drown in a glass of water

>>724178447 (OP)
This but snipers

>>724178447 (OP)
Gitgudfaggot

>>724178580
Snipers are the real problem. Shotgun fags are annoying for sure, but their use is niche. They were probably gonna kill you with whatever weapon they had anyway, because they got the jump on you. Snipers however, can attack anything they see with impunity and aren't even limited in range like shotguns are.

Every time I get reminded of Klay World I can taste almonds because I watched all of it while eating a shit ton of almonds as a 12 year old.

>>724178447 (OP)
>There is nothing fun
we know

Snipers and shotguns in most shooter games are annoying because their time to kill is just your ping + reaction time. Making them require at least 2 hits to kill in most circumstances and giving them an appropriate cycle rate makes them feel a ton better. That doesn't work for most games though because they typically have automatic weapons which kill much faster for headshots, so when the shotgun takes 2 hits to kill with a 500ms cycle rate, people tend to just use rifles or SMGs.

>what?
>y'all don't like multiplayer?

>>724179314
What if snipers were inverse shotguns that did minimal damage in close quarters? Could even say it's due to the bullet being fired at maximum terminal velocity and over penetrating if you're too close.

>>724187175
I mean at close range the wad can typically penetrate through someone without any kind of armor but it is still pretty damaging.

Snipers are way worse. The same thing except there's counter play except "dont be seen by them". You can outrange shotguns. Snipers need a hard cap of 2 per team, or a cooldown before you can choose them again if you die.

>>724179130
Holy hell dude how do I remember even this i must be hacking because this shit doesn't happen to normal people

Snipers take skill. Shotguns do not

>>724187320
You can increase the scope-in time for the sniper as well as making unscoped firing practically worthless to artificially implement a minimum TTK for close range encounters. Smoke or flash the sniper while he is zoomed in and get close, they do not stand a chance. Lots of games rely on "quickscoping" though to make snipers look cool and flashy, and have a way to defend themselves close range. Even in that scenario you can make the cycle rate really long so that if 2 people push you, you will get at most 1 kill.

>>724178447 (OP)
Not related to shotguns in multiplayer but it's wild that so many people that made things in the past but early enough to not actually capitalize on it basically have just moved on from it, but the people that hit it at the peak are still just around.
Robert Benfer the last time I checked only had online presence with a Twitch stream and I saw Tay Zonday cast a Tribes III game right before it came out and everyone forgot about it.

Snipers are gay

>>724187952
would you be my secret snipper

knox has a clay penis

>>724187563
The first two things have no effect when the sniper is already scoped, and smoking/flash doesn't really matter either when they're 200m+ away on a cliff with motion sensors and trip mines on the only way up.
I havn't played a game where quickscoping was a thing in probably 10 years. I assume you're talking about cod in this post, isn't cod usually small/fast enough maps that snipers are just a novelty for clipfarming?

>>724181845
I think the movie really burnt him out.

>>724178447 (OP)
>Shotguns are terrible for Multiplayer. There is nothing fun about dying the instant someone turns the corner with one

Counterpoint. Splattering your ass all over the walls with an ambush is a lot of fun.

>>724178674
STOP BEING A CENTIPEDE

>>724178447 (OP)
shotguns that function as just a cone of pellets in an absurdly wide radius are not fun.
IRL shotguns are actually a lot of fun to shoot and do not necessarily kill anything standing in front of you if you just whiff the shot.
The Halo CE shotgun was the only fun shotgun in any popular game ever.