Thread 724488831

When will Nintendo make a "masculine" Link again? I'm tired of Twink Link.

>>724488831 (OP)
BOTW/TOTK Link is living off the land. How isn’t that masculine?

>>724488831 (OP)
Might never happen again. Japan is obsessed with making manlet twinks now, which isn't helped by the amount of vocal fujo women who eat that shit up.
Look what they did to the latest mainline musou games, Dynasty Warriors: Origins and Samurai Warriors 5. Both have majority feminine looking twinks and very few actual women in them. It's over.

>>724488831 (OP)
Again? And which one was like that? The closest we had was TP, and only on the official art

>>724490419
OoT and TP were both masculine pretty boys ala Leonardo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt, not femboy twinks like in BotW/TotK

link has only looked masculine once, and that was adult link in OoT on N64. every other time he's looked very feminine

>>724488831 (OP)
toon link is better than twink link. at least he fucked tetra

>>724491942
OoT was just as masculine as BOTW if that's your baseline

>>724493385
>OoT was just as masculine as BOTW
wut?
>OoT Link
>voiced by Noboyuki Hiyama (GAR as fuck)
>has visible muscle definition
>purposefully gave him a big nose because the artists wife said its cooler/manlier

>BotW Link
>soft
>has actual birthing hips

Nobody said link has to look like Hulk Hogan but people falsely label attractiveness as effeminate.

>>724493385
>>724495009
forgot pic but its pretty obvious how much more genuinely effeminate they made him. OoT link was a young man, BotW is a MtF.

>>724495113
Yeah, Link used to be a fucking badass

>>724495231
(in one game)
(where he is also a little boy for a lot of the game)

>>724495997
Being an 11yo trapped in an 18yo body and still saving the world is badass.

>>724493385
BotW Link has way more androgynous proportions. People noticed this and even these subtle changes to his proportions make him look more male.

>>724488831 (OP)
Never. Nintendo is a woke homo company now.

>>724488831 (OP)
Do like Twilight Princess and him darker blonde hair then. Pure golden blond is a twink color now.

>>724488831 (OP)
Never. Aonumale killed that and Switch tendies buried it. You'll never see real Zelda again.

>>724488831 (OP)
fujos are the target audience now

>>724488831 (OP)
They could keep the twink thing but still make him feel masculine, take Alucard, Raiden, Squall or Griffith (no actually scratch that not Griffith) for example. They all feel like chads despite being very “pretty”. Squall is prettier than any iteration of Link too and he’s still a chad.

>>724495113
same route Cloud went kek no homo

>>724488831 (OP)
Stop being a degenerate fetishist. Cleanse your brain.

I mean everyone looks kind of the same in these games, its just not link

>>724502957
You can always just watch your gay porn. You don't need your twinks in everyone else's video games.

>>724501305
Back then they were going for the 90s pretty boy look. Pretty boys embody masculinity without being completely chopped.

>>724488831 (OP)
I want bulk TP Link back.

>>724488831 (OP)
Devs have said androgyny has long been a part of his design, to better allow both men and women to self-insertwhile playing as him.

>>724488831 (OP)
sorry he's a sissy femboy now

>>724504081
I've never heard them say that. Depending on the design, they'll say they base him off actors, or cartoons, or they make him look more realistic, etc. Maybe for the newer games?

>>724495997
Child Link is more manly than nuLink.

>>724509506
He's also almost his size too.

>>724488831 (OP)
When we invent a time travel machine and time travel back to 2006

>>724488831 (OP)
Only gay faggots play Nintendo so the answer is never.

>>724492097
he wore tights, had a fag tag, and played a girly flute

>>724509863
>only two iterations of Link with a stated connection through blood
>both very rugged and manly in comparison to their counterparts
Hero of Time genes too damn strong
Wasn’t bitchboy enough for Hylia’s liking

>>724488831 (OP)
Never again, and we're probably not seeing a green tunic and hat for a 3D game's Link as the main look ever again either. Thank the droves of non-Zelda fans who bought into BotW and TotK for that. at least don't do a cel-shaded or toy diorama art style for the next game for the love of god they're both getting old

The next game should should be top-down, use mouse controls, and be the third installment in the "Phantom" saga.

>>724488831 (OP)
Do you all consider Link to be an elf? I have heard varying opinions on if he and Zelda are elves or not.

>>724488831 (OP)
I'd rather have another child Link.

>>724495113
I'd argue BotW Link is more like a FtM. Female skeletal structure, no shoulders. A woman masquerading as a man. Throw a gruesome chest scar from a mastectomy and it would barely look out of place.

>>724493385
nobody is looking at this model and thinking
>oh what a pretty anime girl

>>724517861
there's zero instances of the world elf being used in the franchise.
in terms of design, hylians are somewhat elven, but they run a wide swathe and are ultimately normal humans with pointy ears.
in terms of lore, oot zoras and onward embody the more tolkien elf role

>>724514271
both of links ears are pierced not just the right one, and piercings are manly. picrel

>>724517861
Hylians are basically one of several types of humans. You also have others like Gerudo and also TP's round-ears (confusingly also referred to as "Humans" but with an uppercase "H"). I think the round-ears of the GB/C games also fall in the same uppercase Humans category.

>masculine
Men are blind

>>724521956
>dale
>manly
lol

>>724490419
>The closest we had was TP, and only on the official art

His shoulders were fucking shredding in TP bruh

>>724488831 (OP)
I hate that link looked like a fucking badass for the tp artwork but in game looks like a faggot twink

>>724509863
TP Link was literally made for Americans to jerk off to. Not even joking. TP exists because everyone was shitting themselves over WW and wanted OoT3.

>>724523797
precisely. I remember nintendo hyping up the game by telling us this would be the oldest link yet and how he'd look mature and shit only to be immediately disappointed upon release. Nintendo never addressed this bs lie they made up either

>>724523548
He looks almost like Super Mario.

>>724523861
Because WW didn't sell nearly as well as it needed to, and the toon style backfired poorly (with Minish Cap and Four Swords Adventures selling poorly and nobody playing FS GBA) despite preemptively betting on it so hard. They thought WW was going to be a blowout and would establish the toon style was THE future of Zelda, so when that didn't happen and they got brought back down to earth, they realized they needed the next 3D game to evoke OoT (the best-selling 3D game at that point and already the most revered game of all time).

>>724523861
and twilight princess ended up outselling wind waker by a large amount.
aonuma gambled with the art style of wind waker and the market bitchslapped him for it

>>724488831 (OP)
Never, nintendo characters aren't allowed to be intimidating, only cute and feminine because they're mascots

>>724524408
>>724524418
In the States, you mean. Japan didn't give a bright red fuck about Twilight Princess. Literally the worst performing mainline Zelda game. TP was meant to appeal to Westerners hooked on OoT and no one else.

I miss when Zelda was cool

>>724524915
You might have a point if Skyward Sword didn't fail hard too. And that one was a lot more Japanesey. Cartoonier characters, a flamboyant villain, and cliche anime romance between Link and Zelda.

>>724525139
Zelda was never cool. You can tell, because it's a favorite among women. And no women find it "problematic" in any way. That's a sure sign of sterile, safe, mass appeal slop.

loz has some funny looking asian characters so they can't have link be one

>>724497759
>left = kid proportions
>right = teen proportions

>>724524915
And Zelda suffered greatly for like 15 years because of Aonuma's attempts to pivot into Japan-first appeal for the series.

>>724495113
oot link will always be my link, absolute chad.

time for majoras mask 3ds and bed gnight

>>724488831 (OP)
They never will, Japan is already transitioning into California 2.0, its over.

>>724503489
brother the casting for link in the new movie pretty much confirms oot link was based off of leonardo

>>724504081
Post source, no third parties.

>>724488831 (OP)
the fully rendered link on the top left looks like he fought in Okinawa back in 45.

>>724525982
who cares it's from a nintendo dev they obviously just make shit up to cover their asses all the time. Nintendo never really wants you to know why they do what they do.

>>724523861
Yet it was fucking trash in comparison. That game was entirely for the furfaggot community.

>>724509863
If only he looked like that in the game and not the creepy little twink model we got.

>>724526152
>Yet it was fucking trash in comparison.
Sorry that there were too many dungeons and not enough barren water traversal with wind-changing for your liking.

>>724488831 (OP)
You have to wait for Aonuma to die. He had been wanting to make Link androgynous for decades.

>>724497759
This looks significantly better, what the fuck? I always thought his problem was that he was too squat rather than being too feminine and this proves me right desu. The only other thing he needs is slightly wider shoulders and narrower hips like picrel and it's golden.

>>724524032
>the oldest link yet
17 was the oldest explicit age a link had...except OOT's adult Link was 17.
Now the new oldest (vague early 20s) Link is this.

>>724525982
>source
https://time.com/4369537/female-link-zelda/
From the big man himself.

>>724525226
not to mention Skyward Sword was the point where Zelda turned into a "ghibli rip-off franchise"

>>724524915
>ww performed worse than phantom hourglass in japan
lol
lmao

which was the less retarded port/decompile of oot again? I remember one sperged bc someone put MM out before them

>>724526760
he's like 23 in the totk, which is pretty nuts to think about

>>724524915
>>724527289
>the japanese are phantom hourglass CHADS
based

>>724527328
There's really only Ship of Harkinian for OoT. They're the ones who kinda freaked because the unaffiliated REcomp of Majora's Mask came out soon before their own DEcomp port of MM. If you're confused:
>decompilation ports aim to recreate the original source code as more flexible and understandable code for new platforms (so making a game from one platform a native executable for another platform)
>recompilation ports use shortcuts to automatically convert the original code into a new, portable format without needing to fully recreate the original source code (so translating the code of a game from one platform to run on another)

ITT:
lardasses trying use framegameslop to call the will to power link a woman.
You will never have a chest wider than your midsection, you are basically just another form of delusional body dysmorphic troon.

>>724527169
Thats cool Aonumale said that, but he was like one of five directors on OoT. Yoshiaki Koizumi and Yusuke Nakano were the ones who designed that Link, his true dream of Twink Link wasn't fully realized till BotW was revealed and everyone speculated if he was even male.

>>724531751
>he was like one of five directors on OoT
Only people who care know that. Everyone else just thinks he's always been THE Zelda guy. He could say literally anything to a journalist and thousands would take it as objective, unquestionable fact.

>>724490256
I thought 4chan loves twinkshit

>>724488831 (OP)
too scary for nintendo gamers

>>724488831 (OP)
ITT: we suddenly hate traps and fujobait. Just ignore the decades of us making "not gay" jokes.

>>724532449
There's a breakpoint. Too much, when it isn't actually made to be sexually appealing, where it becomes a gross misshapen blob.

>>724488831 (OP)
in about 10-15 years when they feel the need to reinvent the franchise again and make it a souls clone.

>>724503489
>chopped
New slang is pure faggotry.
There was a point in the past where people said this, and were wrong.
But when I say it, I'm right.
Fuck these stupid ass new terms.

>>724532565
You didn't seem to feel that way about characters like Bridget or Hideyoshi, the epitome of draw a girl call it a boy

>>724495113
I remember when people called OOT Link a fag for wearing earrings back in the day.

>>724532721
not him
why do you say that?
I doubt anyone here ever played guilty gear

>>724532721
>must bring up popular controversy
Thread got tagged as engagement farming. Be sure to earn those pennies for Hiro.

>>724495231
OoT Link is still THE Link after all these years

>>724532906
Quit pretending you're not gay for Link

So uh... when did nu-4chan decide traps were safe-horny?

I'm pretty confident we'll eventually get old man Link, another badass adult Link, and probably a return to some gay twink stuff too. Link's design changing every game (or two) is pretty consistent. I don't expect the next big Zelda game to use the same or a similar design to BotW/TotK. Toon Link in honestly the most used design, just because he was used for the GBA (although the in-game sprites look pretty unique) and DS era in addition to Wind Waker, but that always stuck me as laziness rather than a conscious decision.

>>724495113
>Earrings
No masculine man wears in earrings. That's for women and faggot hipsters.

>Mario is a beta friendzoned cuck
>Link is an androgynous eunuch
>nu-Kong says trans rights
>can't even select gender in Pokemon/Animal Crossing games anymore
>everything completely censored and sanitized, even more than Sony now
Nintroondies will still keep being in denial and Nintendo being woke

I just want BOTK as a setting to leave.
I want a new Hyrule and everything that entails. Or maybe something that's not Hyrule.
And my god do I want a new art style.

>>724533952
>>Mario is a beta friendzoned cuck
Only in North America
>>Link is an androgynous eunuch
He always has been
>>nu-Kong says trans rights
Source? "Dude trust me! One of the characters even has nonbinary colors or something!"
>>can't even select gender in Pokemon/Animal Crossing games anymore
You can in Japan
>>everything completely censored and sanitized, even more than Sony now
Nintendo can't take away your ability to mod. Right, I forgot /v/ hates mods and emulation.

>>724525226
Skyward Sword flopping is the reason why BotW/TotK don't do the OoT loop of revisiting the exact same 4 locations again.

>>724533531
>>724521956

>>724534473
>goron village
>zora's domain
>gerudo desert
Yeah I guess 3/4 is much different

>>724535359
Zelda is forever stuck having to suck off the Ocarina races, but at least its not
>Hub World
>Forest Level
>Mountain Level
>Desert Level
And nothing else.

>>724489724
he literally can (and does) pass as a woman

>>724534473
TotK knocked WW for most over rated.
SS still reigns as most underrated just before Oracle of Seasons.

>>724535613
>Botw may use most, if not all, of oot's overworld locations, but at least it doesn't have the same world structure as an N64 game
you got me

>>724534467
based

>>724495231
Aside from his feminine face.

>>724488831 (OP)
>They thought TP Link was "too cool" so they tried to balance it out by giving him goofy-ass facial expressions.

>>724535970
We keep missing each other on this.
I ALSO hate that every Zelda game has to basically be a sequel to OoT. BotW could have absolutely done without all the lore whinging and what not. Kind of spoils the whole "We're going back to the days of NES Zelda" angle when you know you have to hit the usual three-four set pieces instead of just wandering around and stumbling until a new dungeon.
What I hate about Skyward Sword is that it's literally just three locations and a hub. Even shitshows like Wind Waker let you dick around on the overworld.

>>724532721
Those characters were sexually appealing. BotW Link falls into the uncanny zone of androgyny, not feminine enough to pass as a sexy girl.

>>724523548
>exact same face
>frowning means he is a badass

>>724538130
Why do you think the meme about US box art exists?
anger and violence are manly, smiling is for babies and girls.
It's a shitpost, but there's a surprising amount of people who believe that.

>>724495231
I want to run my hands over his thighs.

>>724538130
His features are definitely sharper in the art.

They took this from us
https://x.com/rlgcarrot/status/1982616493633519754

>>724509863
The closest i can offer you

>>724488831 (OP)
LoZ will never have an appealing artstyle again. They are too bogged down with communication issues, incompetence and office politics shit. The thing that gets the OK will never be the thing that looks good to a few people, it will be the thing that everyone dislikes equally unless someone makes their standing worse by bargaining for it.
>>724535673
In Japanese media any character that can't pass as a woman is gay.