Thread 724500889

how big of an upgrade is an OLED monitor really?

>>724500889 (OP)
It's nice. I like mine

>>724500889 (OP)
probably the biggest upgrade you can get
bigger than a new GPU

My kingdom for a good 1400p 27" flat OLED monitor

>>724500889 (OP)
Biggest visual upgrade I've had but I also went with ultrawide, HDR and all the other things well. If you only play gacha and retro games it doesn't matter but for games with graphical prowess the difference is massive.

>>724501075
*With HDR

>>724501075
>>724501187
How much will this set someone back

>>724500889 (OP)
not much of an upgrade if your IPS monitor has good colors.
Apart from blacks, my ProArt monitor has better colors than my OLED monitor.

>>724501294
an online shop here sells these in the range of 500-750$
>t.european

>>724502080
Ya i just looked through ebay and it looks like thats how much theyre going for. Seems worth the upgrade compared to what i have now.

I don’t know how good monitors are currently, but my LG C1 has been amazing. Still no hints of burn in and I’m gaming on it like a madman. HDR only of course

>>724503237
Don't watch too much CNN, don't leave it running for a long time.

>>724503237
I’m curious: what does it look like in real world scenarios when playing vidya?

>>724500889 (OP)
they're shit for anything but high fps content. because oled has near instantaneous pixel response times. this is nice in theory but it eliminates any blurring. this turn unforgivingly reveals any flaws in the source material. guess what a common source material doesn't run at a high enough fps? that's right movies. 24 frps stutter on panning shots will never look more stuttery than than on an oled display - not bc the display is bad but bc it's actually too good. same with 30 fps video games. also not high enough fps. but as long as you can maintain high fps, e.g. pc gaming or some console titles they're fucking nice

>>724500889 (OP)
Very nice. Even for SDR content. But could be brighter.
I’m happy with mine but still can’t wait for OLED monitors 3-4 years.
Annoying toggling hdr on/off based on content but I paid for accurate colors and I’m getting accurate colors dammit.

>>724503237
Oh no good thing I bought an Alienware w/ burn in warranty coverage for 3 years with free shipping.
Lmfao I love the crying from faggots who thought they got a “good deal.”

>>724500889 (OP)
Single biggest and most noticeable upgrade I've ever made. Make sure you get a really good QD OLED, like MSI or Asus. High refresh rate OLEDs are fucking amazing.

>>724501294
Mine was $750 when I bought it, but it's like $650 now.

>>724503396
like it should because your monitor isn't tuned into cnn for 24 hours a day. just don't leave the game menu open for 6 months straight.

>>724500889 (OP)
>how big of an upgrade is an OLED monitor really?
It's quite an upgrade. Looks better than all the other technology.

HOWEVER the caveats are serious
>looks really bad in rooms with ambient light, needs a dark room to look its best (kind of the opposite of IPS which looks bad in the dark but good in light)
>VRR flicker
>movies sometimes look bad on it (i dont know why, something about 24fps looking really bad on OLED monitors)
>needs a lot more tinkering and care to prolong its lifespan and delay burn-in, but burn-in is still inevitable
>much more expensive than other monitors yet it also the only one with an expiration date

>>724500889 (OP)
There are no good OLED monitors.

>>724500889 (OP)
I feel like the biggest upgrade in OLED is the glossy finnish, for the longest time it was near impossible getting a proprely specced monitor with a glossy coating without buying an overpriced meme display like the Apple ones. Even the best most expensive monitors look like dogshit because of the matte finish. It's also the reason why CRTs still btfo most modern 4k monitors in perceived image quality

>>724500889 (OP)
it's a downgrade.
>>724503237
OYYYYYYY VEYYYYYYY DELETE THIS YOU FUCKING ANTI-SEMITE

OLED shills I will never buy your shitty monitors. I'm sticking to VA and IPS panels.

>>724504531
I went from matte 4K IPS to a glossy 1440p OLED. The OLED appeared sharper, against all logic. Later I learned about the entire matte vs glossy thing. Matte finnish on displays is a crime against humanity. For some reason Samshit started doing it on their phones. I hope others won't follow suit.

>>724504674
Good. The goy can have their LCShit. More good stuff for us, chosen.

Well i'm not going back to lesser display types. MicroLED soon™ though.

>>724504013
>>movies sometimes look bad on it (i dont know why, something about 24fps looking really bad on OLED monitors)

see
>>724503437

>>724504674
You do you while I enjoy a better gaming experience
Then again you're a gachashitter so you're better off with a phone anyway

>>724504531
Worth noting this only really matters if you play in a lit room. If you play in complete darkness it doesn't really matter. Also the new tandem OLED 4th gen panels don't use an MLA layer so the matte coating is much less pronounced. I picked up the new 4th gen LG 27GX700A and it's been an incredible experience coming from a 240hz BENQ TN. If you're in the market for an OLED please hold off and get a 4th gen which are all on the cusp of releasing and offer huge benefits over the previous gens. Gigabytes model is out pretty much now but has some serious colour banding issues, the LG one seems to be decent but the flagship models for all manafacturers aren't out till layer this year or early next year.

>>724505789
you should always use your OLED in a dark room to get the most out of it. I normally use my IPS screen and only turn my OLED on when I'm playing vidya or watching something longer.

I use CRT monitors every day despite owning an OLED.
I don't know what to tell you.

>>724506258
based radiation king

Bought msi mag 34cqpx a couple of days ago, it's fucking quality, very impressed.

>oled
>4k
>HDR
The holy trifecta of scam technologies.

>>724500889 (OP)
Plasma > OLED

Same black levels and contrast. None of the motion blur.

>>724508035
as a person with a thick ass plasma tv in his living room, the black levels and contrast are pretty sick, but i wish the resolution was better. 720 at 50" is a bit tragic, but demon souls was fun to play on it.

>>724503396
Assuming you don't play a single game as a second job burn in isn't going to be a concern for a while.

>>724508035
what resolution is your plasma ? 720p?

>>724500889 (OP)
Not worth it
Just get yourself an HDR enabled monitor.

7000 hours , oled as main monitor. not using any protection shit, still 100% fine

>>724503761

It doesn't matter if it is continuous use.
OLED pixel wear is cumulative.

>>724509185
that makes no sense. if you are switching pixel states by not having it be continuous then it eliminates the chance for anything cumulative to occur.

>>724509185
Yeah, but burn-in is what happens when you wear some pixels more than others.

>>724503237
>using a snoy tv
>watching any form of msm news at all
There are issues being shown in this image but the burnin isn't one of them.

It's a real upgrade, but an expensive one. The fear over burn in is way exaggerated. Not only does it take a lot of effort for burn in to occur, they're remedies and prevention tools built into these monitors. My OLED has a maintenance thing that turns my screen off for about 3 minutes; though I hate it when it interrupts whatever I am doing.

I think if you're budget conscious you need to think about other upgrades before getting an OLED because it's expensive out the ass.

>>724504013
>looks really bad in rooms with ambient light, needs a dark room to look its best (kind of the opposite of IPS which looks bad in the dark but good in light)
That's only True if you get a glossy OLED. Matte exists
And MSI has this weird in between called anti glare or something but it sure as hell isn't matte

>>724509454
over time your screen will dim. no biggie. I set mine to 50% brightness in SDR and it's fine

>>724500889 (OP)
Big enough that I want one even though I find it fucking annoying that 1080p OLED doesn't exist.

as someone who just bought a oled , i hate oled. annoying af and burn in is inevitable

>>724511125
Portable 1080p OLED monitors are your only option

Isn't VRR flicker a big deal? G-sync is too good to not use.

lol @ gamer niggas who boughting into OLEDs but have myopia and so the high contrast from deep blacks will absolutely haram they're eyes

>>724511125
Why in the unholy hell would you waste OLED an a 1080p display?

>>724511274
It varies by model but it depends on how wide the swings in FPS are to be an issue.
I couldn't use VRR in Stellaris before I upgraded my CPU it was so bad, but now it's consistent and so not visible even at max speed.

>>724511282
>myopia
have you tried not having shit genetics?

>>724508035
>None of the motion blur.
My OLED has better HDR support and a 0.03ms response time.

>>724511462
High framerate + visual clarity + not wanting to pay the insulting prices for higher end GPUs. Getting a gorillion FPS at 1080p is piss easy and cheap with an X3D CPU.

>>724511682
>1080p
>visual clarity
If you're playing old games, maybe. If you're playing anything that needs temporal rendering to work (i.e. every graphically heavy game since approximately 2018) then 1080p is the exact opposite of visual clarity and it's going to higher resolutions that gives you more visual clarity.

>>724511859
This is what someone who falls for the marketing sounds like

>>724511859
Not really, there's only a marginal increase in pixel density going up to a typical 1440p screen.

>>724508035
You dumb bitches make me post this every time. Plasma has phosphor decay. You're wrong and this is from someone that owns a VT60.

https://youtu.be/iLdkiyYeod8?t=571

>>724500889 (OP)
nothing looks as good as oled

but you must never let an static image in it, always have a screensaver

>>724512638
yeah, set the screen to turn off after 2-3 mins in windows
I aso have darkish wallpapers on slideshow

>>724501075
>>724501187
What do people recommend for one of these bad boys?

>>724511682
Nothing stops you from running a lower resolution. In fact that's basically what you do with those new 1440p OLEDs that have 720hz 720p modes.

Just got mine lg c5 42 oled today. Had weird white vertical lines and got a bit scared, but they disappeared after a while. Even though it's a tv I use it as a monitor. It's HUGE, really nice for work, it's like having multiple monitors, but with no black bars between them. Response time is amazing, and going from 60hz to 144hz is great. One thing I dislike - It's too large to play games in fullscreen, If I can launch them in ultrawide it feels much better. Sadly most games don't support ultrawide resolutions on 16:9 screen.

>>724507882
A good HDR display is far and away the best visual upgrade you can give yourself, more than 4K or "perfect blacks".
>>724508879
>HDR-enabled
No. If you're going to get HDR, get something that actually has some decent capabilities. HDR really only starts to get exciting beyond 2 stops of additional headroom, which will be HDR 800 - HDR 1000 for most people and their SDR brightness preferences.

>>724500889 (OP)
It's alright except for VRR flicker with gsync
I've got a 240hz 4k one. Although I found HDR to be less than impressive, I'm still just not blown away by the technology. In fact i pretty much use SDR all the time. Some people literally try modding all of their games to look HDR, but not me. I don't care for it. I'm not the first to even toggle HDR in a game, I just don't care.

>>724513137
A good OLED in SDR looks better than your LCD using HDR.

Tried HDR for the first time. In Helldivers 2 mech machine gun was flashing with 500rpm rate. It was cool and hurt my eyes at the same time.

>>724501163
what's a game with graphical prowess that also isn't dogshit?

>>724503740
>I bought an Alienware
>faggots who thought they got a “good deal.”
lol

>>724512075
>>724512104
You don't even know what temporal blur is and you're here commenting on resolutions and in game graphics. Embarrassing.

>>724500889 (OP)
It's great and is the Best you can get, but it burns in in a year maybe 2. If you barely use your PC then maybe 3. Also depends on the OLED type some burn in faster than others. You're better off getting one of the newer HVA or "fast VA" panels that are Mini LED. Like the AOC Q27G40XMN/ G30 or the Xiaomi G Pro 27i if you like IPS, or the Acer Nitro XV275U P3. They punch way above their weight in visuals and have brighter HDR. Deep blacks, none to very minimal smearing like old VA panels. Don't waste your money on obsolescence stepping stone tech like OLED. Remember all it takes is one time for you to leave your monitor on unattended for to long and boom your shit is fucked.

>>724500889 (OP)
A huge upgrade until it burns in, then it's pretty nasty to use. I can't even notice the horrible uniformity (and it's bad) on my 20+ year old LCD monitor as clearly as I see the burned in image on my OLED phone which was like 4 years old at most.

No I'm not buying a new monitor in 3 years after the burn in warranty expires

>>724513386
>trueblack400
>good

>>724500889 (OP)
It's big, but a proper oled TV with a proper BFI mode is far bigger still. You literally get over double motion clarity for free and essentially no drawbacks. Your game run 120FPS? You get over 240fps worth of clarity instead just by strobing the picture.
Sadly they don't get made anymore since most people are stupid and don't care. They'd rather buy a 5090 instead to get actual 240fps for really the same result (or worse, 240fps with fake frames)

new oled TVs are still worth though, usually more solid anti burn in capability than oled monitors, as long as it's not QD Oled.
If you keep the TV just exclusively for vidya and a few movies, and do everything else on a regular ass pc monitor it will literally never burn-in. That's my way to do it. You don't need oled quality for your 4chan shitposting.

DO NOT buy a QD Oled monitor under any circumstance unless you're fucking rich and don't mind replacing it every 2 to 3 years. QD oleds made the burn-in meme actually real.

>>724516018
>gookposter
>working eyes

>>724516018
brightness is overrated. If the peak highlights are in the 600 nits range it's more than enough, especially in a dark room. Brightness isn't why HDR is good, it's how that additional brightness is used to add bright details (keyword DETAILS) that couldn't be shown otherwise in SDR, that's usually on small highlights, surface details under a light, the fire in the middle of an explosion, shit like that. After 400 nits of peak highlight the diminishing returns are massive. In many games they don't even have higher details to even show lol, besides the sun and even then it's usually capped

>>724516878
This is just OLED lmao2dim cope. MiniLED with local dimming will wipe the floor with your oled for HDR and you know it.

>>724503237
I have had this model for several years now, and I use it for video games. I do not have any burn in.

>>724516986
As someone who has MiniLED with Local Dimming it's nearly OLED quality and HDR is way better and brighter. Also you don't have to worry about burn in, you can let everything rip. OLED is basically obsolete now. They have $250-$350 MiniLED's that out perform it kek.

>>724513016
nice anon, yeah I really think tvs are better too.
>Sadly most games don't support ultrawide resolutions on 16:9 screen.
you can just set a custom resolution, on nvidia at least. That's how I do it for my C1. There's also desktop resizing which can also work but it's better to make a custom res directly and just switch to that before gaming, I recommend adding 3440x1440 (most games support that) and 3840x1620 (multiple of the 1080 ultrawide res), just add these from the nvidia panel. THe desktop resizing is also on the nvidia panel (I still use the old one, fuck the app)

>>724517551
Enjoy your shit colors and response times.

>>724518167
You didn't read my post at all did you. or you just don't know yet.

Keep pretending your 3 year old OLED doesn't have burn in. kek.

>>724518154
I'm on amd, but I'm pretty sure you do it on amd too. I thought about custom resolutions, but as far as I know it's going to be centered (I prefer to have game on the bottom) and I can't have a voice chat or something else in the empty space. And changing resolution every time sucks too. Far from optimal, but better than nothing nonetheless, ty.

mini led better for games
oled better for movies
it's nice to have both, however microled is the endgame
oled max also be nice

>>724518539
>or you just don't know yet.
I'm aware of what miniled is. I'm also aware that it's still a compromise on colors and response times.
>Keep pretending your 3 year old OLED doesn't have burn in.
Are you a retarded brownie who shitposts about tech they're mad they can't afford?
>kek
Yup.

>>724513016
>Had weird white vertical lines and got a bit scared, but they disappeared after a while.
That's image retention. Basically Stage 1 of image burn that goes away. If whatever static image you had on the screen was on there for longer would risk it getting burned into the screen.

>>724500889 (OP)
Quite big even coming from an IPS display, I bought a 42in LG C2 a few years back though, but since I use a huge desk it fitted perfectly on my setup. I would say if you have the space, just buy the OLED TV instead of the monitor, prices are pretty much same, HDR nit brightness is what matters the most.
A OLED monitor would be worth it if your main goal is refresh rate, but usually if that is the goal, you are also wanting low input and all that shit e-sport fags want. Now since monitors are usually cheap, its not so weird seeing people get a high refresh and a separate best picture quality and using a dual monitor setup. Me personally I got an ultrawide in portrait (90º oriented) that I spliced into 3 with Displayfusion, so now it works inside Win10 as 3 mini monitors around the size on an old CRT each.

>>724501163
>If you only play gacha and retro games it doesn't matter
Well depending on what you consider retro. Even if it's fake HDR, playing Thief with RTX HDR has been pretty cool

The hdr 400 oleds are junk. You want a monitor for HDR. Mini LED will blast 1600 nits of brightness into your eye balls and you will feel ALIVE.

The first upgrade you should get is this one:
Set your monitor to gamma2.2 or calibrate it to it and play games that way, baam feels like OLED already
Secondly peel the coating from it
BAAAM your brain can't tell the difference anymore

>>724519535
I think it was around 600 minimum for to be considered "good", 400 nit ones work fine as long as you don't get much sunlight. 1200 and up are good for a well lit room.

Now if you get a 800 nit + a dark room, shit looks great.

>>724519794
i consider hdr 400 for oleds SDR+. hdr 400 for ips and shit is just a meme. wake me up when oleds get true black 1000

nothing triggers the poorfags more than a OLED thread lmao

>>724500889 (OP)
Burn in liability
>just get a good one
Even the good ones can burn in, especially PCs that are primarily static images when not in use

>>724500889 (OP)
Literally like night and day.

For me, it's mini-led.

>>724519859
Agreed, minimum you should be getting is around 800, reason why I bought the C2 myself, besides I think I paid around 600 for it a month later after launch time, they sold out in minutes, so I got lucky with it indeed.

>>724511682
>visual clarity
>he cites that as a strength of 1080p
this website just gets dumber and dumber beyond what i could've ever imagined

>>724520139
not rly when you consider actually using oled at desktop and playing games
Xtreme brightness is only desirable to an extent tehre

I just want a fucking monitor as a TV. Last I checked (a few years ago) there were LG monitors that were 45 inch monitors made for that purpose but that TINY for my living room. I'm looking at 70 inches plus. Any developments in that department? Gsync/freesync + 144hz (or more) OLED + 65in or bigger.

>>724501048
SPBP
If you are into horror games, is a must as well

>>724500889 (OP)
>Want to into OLED
>Don't want to spend $700-$1k every 5 years
That's more than I spend on GPU upgrades per year on a fucking monitor man. Wake me up when OLED is cheaper. I'll just stick with HDR IPS monitors that last 3 times as long until then.

I want to get pic related because of the resolution, but it's only in matte. What should I do?

>>724525013
Glossy curved display is a terrible idea.

>>724525198
I also wish it wasn't curved

>>724500889 (OP)
I just got a 32" OLED with HDR, upgrading from a 24" LCD I used for 10 years.
The colors and black levels are amazing, but any time a black part of the image is in motion it leaves a blur in its wake from the pixels coming on and as a result it sometimes has much worse motion clarity.
Aside from that, its been a gigantic improvement, I love it.

>>724508035
I have still have a plasma screen but now it has this rainbow static in the center of the screen when the image is dark and in motion.

>>724511859
Skill issue. Use the DLSS tweaker and change the ratio to something higher than the default, the sole problem at 1080p is that they use the default ratios which feeds the model a tiny frame on 1080p, you need to be at around 1440p balanced resolution to get good results from this AI scaler.

>>724525013
Get a C5. Cheaper, flat, glossy, and with a standard resolution/aspect ratio.

>>724500889 (OP)
their the new crt/plasma age like milk expensive fragile burn in etc
had a bunch of them their only good on smaller screens and dont scale well

went back to lcd for tv's and monitors can rape them into the ground with back to back movies/tv/vidya for 5-10 years with no loss of picture quality besides some dimming