Thread 724515601

>Pillars of eternity flopped
>Tiranny flopped
>Pentiment flopped
>Avowed flopped
>Outer worlds flopped

Whats the next step on their masterplan?

What even succeeds nowadays except slop games? Not that Obsidian aren't producing slop, but just thinking about the most critically acclaimed successful games this year, are people really that fucking tasteless and dumb?

>>724515601 (OP)
>avowed
>outer worlds
deserved to flop
the others are sad though, yes

>>724515916
Name 3 things wrong with Outer Worlds.

>>724516289
art style, lazy gay slow time ability, forgetful weapons and armor

>>724515601 (OP)
Beg Bethesda to let them make Fallout New Vegas 2 so that they can make a new faction called the Faggothood of Penis that takes over the mojave with FEV (Faggot Evolutionary Virus) that turns everyone into rainbow haired purple lipstick wearing brown androgynous retards who kill every other faction in the wasteland and are also the good guys no matter what. Also the show will be integrated so the message really will be capitalism bad because that's all they can fucking do with outer worlds which yes, is how they would handle Fallout. Also the real title will be Fallout Gay Penis, and they'll shove the lucky 38 up liberty prime's robo anus.

>>724515601 (OP)
Next up, i’m thinking the market is ripe for another lame, unfun, poorly written utterly cringe and mediocre-at-BEST NEW RPG FROM THE TEAM THAT MADE FALLOUT NEW VEGAS!!!!!!
>mfw i get a 40 character captcha and post this anyway

>>724516289
When it came out the only good things I heard about it was it wasn't made by Bethesda, it wasn't fo76 and it was made by obsidian. Played it myself and it had awful writing, awful artstyle, forgettable characters, boring world, hardly an rpg. It's dogshit

>>724515601 (OP)
Pillars 1 did pretty well afaik and Pentiment looked like it had a shoestring budget so I doubt it was a flop.

>>724515601 (OP)

nobody asked for outer worlds 2, so why did they make it?

>>724519098
They dont have any successful franchises left.

>>724515601 (OP)
crashing their studio, with no survivors.

Didn't Grounded do well?

i liked tyranny*
*more than the other stuff

>>724515601 (OP)
Thats what happens when you create atheist game like pilars of eternity
Humans created gods? Fine, im going to create reality without obsidian entertaiment

>>724520237
Also, Pentiment.

>>724516289
The best part of the game is the beginning; it's a 7/10 at best, and it's downhill from there, and I mean really fucking downhill.

That's the story, writing, pacing, dialogue, player choice, all that shit goes off a cliff after 4-5 hours of gameplay. The shooting/looting is fun, but nothing special. If you're not nailing the RPG mechanics in your 3D RPG, then your gunplay would have to be blowjob levels of good for me to keep playing it.

>>724520943
works for 40k

>>724521426
Pentiment shit the bed in third act

>>724515601 (OP)
they and bethesda will release new vegas remastered and buy themselves at least another 2 new games.

>>724520943
The humans created gods because the thought of having no greater power watching over you would create a societal collapse.

>>724515601 (OP)
Yeah OW1 flopped so hard MS gave them a bigger budget for OW2

Also they have Grounded

They're unironically a more successful studio than nu-Bioware

>>724515601 (OP)
If everything flops, nothing flops

what are some other companies that have lived far too long off of the reputation from one (1) game they made 15 years ago but gamers refuse to admit the company is a shell of itself?

I dont think /v/ knows what a flop is because none of these games flopped. Not pillars of gaming or anything, but each made the money they were suppose to. Every game these days is apparently a flop no matter what

>>724523398
>a more successful studio than nu-Bioware
Careful anon, careful. You set the bar any higher, and you'll have to pick it up.

>>724515601 (OP)
They will probably continue to release quality AA games while /v/ screeches and fills their diaper.

>>724523870
Feargus won. Cope.

>>724515601 (OP)
I liked Pentiment though

>>724515916
Im gonna buy Awoved and Avelon when i get a chance

>>724515916
Wasnt Pentiment the one where Avellone was obsessed with adding gay priests?

>>724515601 (OP)
Make more government funded propaganda per the dissolution of Smith-Mundt by Obama in 2012.

They're making the next Fallout. Let them cook.

>>724527142
Avellone has nothing to do with Pentiment at all.
It's was SOIr's game.

>>724516289
It's mindnummingly mediocre and the artstyle makes me fucking gag

>>724518296
ya, OP should be talking about Pillars2

>>724515796
Woke sails set sail for fail.

Funny how working at Obshitian made Tim Cain downright quit game dev after that piece of shit Outer Worlds, made Josh Soier retire from anything dev related, and made Chris Avellone go on a warpath with the company.

>>724527960
>working at Obshitian made Tim Cain downright quit game dev after that piece of shit Outer Worlds
Working at Carbine made Tim want to drop game dev forever. He actually worked at TOW2 as a contractor after TOW1, so it wasn't that bad.
>made Josh Soier retire from anything dev related
PoE 2 initial failure broke him, but he reassembled himself back for Pentiment and is now working on some project.
>made Chris Avellone go on a warpath with the company
Yes.

1/3 of your claims are correct, surely you can do better.

>>724515916
Pillars of Eternity was a borefest. I have no idea about Tyranny and the other one.

>>724528217
>Carbine
Was that the studio that made Wildstar?

>>724523845
Show rev figures. By the most generous estimates, I see avowed being underwater as fuck and this game as well.

>>724515601 (OP)
only tyranny, avowed, and outer worlds 2 flopped

They keep making boring games, it's sad.

>>724515796
Resident evil

>>724515601 (OP)
>Tiranny

>>724515601 (OP)
Fallout: New Vegas 2

>>724515601 (OP)
Pentiment did alright actually

>>724515601 (OP)
>ATOM RPG
>Age of Decadence
>Colony Ship
>Underrail
there's your fallout successors.

>>724535851
Also Fallout: Sonora, the DLC for fallout 2.

>>724515601 (OP)
leech microsoft gibs until they're eventually shut down

>>724515601 (OP)
>Pentiment flopped
it was never really meant to sell so I'm not sure how it could've flopped

Also, if you're reading this and you like history, and a love for 16th Century Bavaria, you should play it. Shrimple ass.

>>724527449
Sawyer has been buckbroken by Vincke since Original Sin 2, maybe even Original Sin 1. He was forced to add turn-based to PoE2 thanks to DOS1, then PoE2 got BTFO by DOS2. Unfortunate!

>>724515601 (OP)
Shuttering the studio.

>>724515601 (OP)
Obsidian games have always been niche Kino until Avalone left. After which they've been utter dogshit.

Microshaft buying them out was one of their dumbest mistakes since Obsidian have never made console sellers and they fell off a decade ago, its like buying Bioware without mass effect

>>724515601 (OP)
forever potentially good, never actually good

>>724515601 (OP)
The first pillars did okay compared to the game cost but all the rest of those have been absolute fuck ups. All faith in the company is going fast.

>>724529810
Yeah, Tim Cain worked on Wildstar and it was an absolutely horrible experience for him. He has a youtube channel where he spilled a lot of beans about it (without naming names).

>>724537445
>Obsidian games have always been niche Kino until Avalone left. After which they've been utter dogshit
Close but not quite. PoE1 he didn't manage to save even though the companions he wrote for were some of the best. They have taken a huge fucking dip without him though

>>724515601 (OP)
People overrate him at times, but Obsidian undeniably went downhill after Avellone's departure. They started making mediocre, safe games.

>>724536402
I'd argue most RPG devs were done in by Swen.
>What do you mean, turn-based RPGs can actually sell?

>>724541326
The writing quality suffered, but I wouldn't say they started making more "safe" games considering they actually started trying to establish their own IPs instead of making sequels and spin-offs.

>>724541326
fucking avellone

>>724541421
I agree, but none of those games have the old spark. Let's not pretend KotOR2, NWN2 and New Vegas didn't have issues, but they're remembered for a reason. Their post-DS3 games are always talked about in mostly negative context. Even PoE1 is basically "oh they're trying to ape their IE games". Hilariously, Grounded was apparently the biggest seller for them.

>>724528471
Tyranny was written like a Wikipedia article. No, seriously, every few words you would have a phrase with a hyperlink that would pop open a box with an explanatory paragraph. Sometimes the explanatory paragraph would have hyperlinks to open ANOTHER pop open box! It was ridiculous how poorly presented the dialogue in Age of Tranny was. Also your bosses were "Guy with Red Head" (he was a hothead general of the army) and "Guy with Green Skull" (he was the Evil Overlord's CIA chief) and I started to wonder if the game was an elaborate joke.

>>724541640
>Tyranny was written like a Wikipedia article
that's most old school RPGs or games that ape old school RPGs. Everyone you meet is a walking wikipedia article or an enemy you kill, sometimes both. Adding hyperlinks is just the most honest end result of writing like this

>>724541640
>>724541770
You don't understand, we need something for our writers to do.

>>724541640
I don't get why people shit on tyranny so much. I really liked it. The magic crafting was really fun.

>>724541834
largely because they expected to be the evil that won and not middle management dealing with post-conquest problems

>>724541640
You're putting players in a new fantasy setting, one which their character should be familiar with. You can add a codex no one will read, make NPCs into trivia dispensers with dialogue options like "what's a paladin" or add those links. They were actually the most praised aspect of Tranny.

>>724541901
problem is these fuckers want to emulate d&d which has DECADES of lore

>>724515796
Fun games and games made with a lot passion
All that co op slop
E33
KCD2
Hades2

>>724542361
And a lot of it is also incomprehensible for somebody new to the setting. You have planes and gods and some gods are dead and they were mortals and demons and devils and they are polar opposite but also evil and at endless war and what the fuck

>>724542463
this really isn't the problem people think it is. If you tell a good story you don't need to break out the fucking family history of Glip Shitto. Lorefags are a scourge of fantasy media in general since they only want inane trivia and couldn't tell a good story if their lives depended on it

Grounded was fun
Grounded 2 however has all the problems of the upper yard from the first game (so far). Too many hostile bugs, so you just end up running past everything.

>>724516289
One of the first things the game tried to get me to do outside the tutorial was hook up Pajeeta Chungus with another mentally ill "asexual"

>>724515601 (OP)
Probably making another game which has "no fun allowed" as it's design philosophy

>>724542605
A role-playing game shouldn't really be about telling a story. It should be about giving player context and tools to tell their own story.

>>724516289
I like "corporations bad and stupid" themes from corporations

Like communist propaganda from the mouth of fat chinese woman is second sequel of star wars

>>724527449
what the fuck is sawyer even doing these days? he has nothing to do with avowed, outer worlds or grounded.

>>724515601 (OP)
>Whats the next step on their masterplan?
if that reddit thread is correct, it's to fire the majority of their A team in the next week or so.

>>724542828
yes, if it's pen and paper with a game master that can change things on the fly. It doesn't work for computer games that come pre-coded. At best you'll get a choice between a few different storylines or token choices like which party member you want to fuck.
Closest you get is stuff like crusader kings and mount and blade where you basically make up a story in your head to go with the sandbox

>>724542918
How old is he?
Can't he just from his own studio and make smaller games?

>>724523560
Bethesda, Bioware, Remedy, StreumOn Studio, Ubisoft Montreal, Bungie, gearbox, ID, Double fine.

>>724542918
Working on an unannounced project.

>>724542936
Source?

>>724543007
It's a sliding scale with linear games on one and and absolute freedom of having a human (or AI) DM on another (though in reality, even human DMs have their planned stories and will probably railroad you subtly). A game can't reach the total freedom one, but it can distance itself from linearity more or less.

New Vegas is Obsidian's most beloved game, and it tries to be a more "free" experience. It gives you freedom to pursue the faction you want, to solve every quest in multiple ways. But for you to make that faction choice you need context, you need to know factions' strong and weak sides, which is why a lot of NPCs will have opinions on those factions and will happily share them with you. Also why there are quests designed purely to introduce those factions, like the entire Nipton sequence.

>>724542918
I think that is the point, he wants to work on isometrics. Not 3-D.

>>724543327
>Working on an unannounced project
Can't wait for it to have fun removed because of balance o algo

>>724543169
>How old is he?
Gen X
>Can't he just from his own studio and make smaller games?
He's Gen X