Thread 724543657

What happened to Ninja Gaiden?

>>724543657 (OP)
Can any certified DMCpactrician give me an answer?

DMCGAWD here, cleared all games on DMD

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Still can't pass the first level of NGB on ninja dog, any tips?

>>724543657 (OP)
NG4 reduced NG into a shit DMC ripoff with cheap animations and programming.

>>724544301
So I shouldn't play it? I just pirated it ;_;

>>724543820
>>724543657 (OP)
NG is an overall good series that was never as popular as DMC.
NG fans have been living with a huge inferiority complex for over 20 years now.
The biggest differentiator between the games is that NG enemies are more aggressive than DMC enemies.
NG fans use this as a cudgel to talk down to DMC fans.
DMC fan reaction and sentiment, meanwhile has always been:
>sounds good, maybe I'll check out NG at some point

Let's not forget that NG fans got their own DMC4 just now and all they do is complain about it. Meanwhile, DMC fans are enjoying NG4.

NGtroons should dilate.

>>724544474
>Let's not forget that NG fans got their own DMC4 just now and all they do is complain about it
because it's a cheaply made pile of shit you fucking retard.
it's not DMC4. DMC4 had fucking amazing animation quality.
DMC4 dante has the most depth of any dante iteration while NG4 Ryu is so fucking botched and hollow he's the most shallow and stripped down version of the character to ever exist, not to mention the fact he's only in 15% of the fucking game.

the dark dragon is mine

>>724543657 (OP)
People that like difficult games moved on to Soulslikes, now only the button mashing 80IQ retards that get endorphin boosts from big number combo play action games.

>>724544687
>NGtroon pissing and shitting loudly at me while I'm enjoying xer franchise more than xhe does
keep bitching, nigger faggot
NG4 is fun, you should just play and enjoy it.

>>724544701
>instead of giving him Murai's moveset he steals Ryu's
platinum are retards

>>724544785
it's magnetic combat slop. it sucks ass.
the games not even fucking finished.
It's no where near the quality of DMC4. the game is called "Ninja Gaiden 4" you meekly saying "it's fun" doesn't cut it.

It got better. Good things are ruined by the current generation of apes.

>>724543657 (OP)
based Aerosmith chad

>>724544474
It started with DMC and then Dark Souls. Ninja Gaiden was the og prepare to die game but then Dark Souls came along and stole that from NG as the popular hard game and so NG fans have been seething over Fromslop ever since

>>724544985
I'm having fun with it, You should too.

>>724544474
DMC fan here, went through the whole series with the Master Collection a couple of months back and they were a lot of fun and often frustrating too. Overall I liked the whole "survive at all cost" aspect of it more than just styling on everything that DMC does, this keeps things a bit more straightforward and simple in most combat encounters in a way not unlike Dark Souls.

>>724545213
yeah between the parry mechanics and red flashes, this is pretty much the Sekiro sequel I've always wanted

Why are the colors in 4 so washed out?

>>724545362
Sekiro was at least deliberate.
in NG4 you can just spam attacks and get a parry. it's so shit.

>>724545578
haha yeah deliberate

I like both

>>724544985
I'll continue enjoying it.
You can continue pissing yourself over that fact all you want.

>>724545213
Same here. DMC3 was my introduction to the genre.
NG4's combat is extremely good, very high up there.
The only things I'm missing are:
>grappling hook usable on enemies when locked-on
>directional inputs for use with lock-on
Otherwise, the hard-on locking feels kind of superfluous.

>>724544985
DMC is a bore compared to this, even if it has objective slop like magnetism and poor animation work the enemies are like 100x more fun to fight than in dmc

>>724545578
>>724545373
>>724544985
>>724544687
>>724544301
DUDE LOOKS LIKE A LADY

>>724545854
same, feels good being a cuhrayyacter jh-acktion slash enjoyer in 2025

I like both

>>724546218
you need to pick a side and die by it

>reach part where they teach you the rage mechanic
>die
>no idea to what
>keeps happening
I guess I am getting filtered.

>>724548080
Are you using it?

I fucking HATE Hayabusa

>>724545578
>deliberate
Slow anon, the word you're looking for is S L O W
just like you are ;>

>the youtube algorithm keeps sending me random 2k view NG4 reviews
>best NG
>worst NG
>best NG
>worst NG

I like the game but I left a negative review because the credits are too long.

I’ve never played a NG game but because they have Momiji I like them more than DMC

>>724548080
That is unironically the hardest fight in the game, and bloodbath kills are dogshit on everything that isn't (Dark) Dragon Sword. They should have made all BR attacks in berserk insta kills or at least guaranteed delimbs.

>>724551346
But they are insta kills, what are you guys smoking

>>724551540
Not him, but I also didn't quite get it until after the fight. I guess I just didn't read it correctly. You have to charge the attack. Though arguably charging is not instant ;^)

>>724548080
On normal? You don't even need to use it to clear that fight. But yes use it and charge the attack, do it in midair it's safer.
Use the training mode holy shit it explains literally everything.

they really should've brought back OT on headless enemies, it's muscle memory at this point

>>724551920
On hard. I beat it a few times after complaining. I realized one of the enemies had a sign on his head. And yes, didn't realize the charging thing until later.

>>724543657 (OP)
just got a new entry
retards gonna retard

>>724551540
Only certain directional inputs or some special condition like charged dual swords or perfect hold hammer/tool box. Just tapping X or Y in BR form isn't going to cut it

I like how every single game ever has at least one dedicated schizo on this board that spams the same 5 webms and repeats the same 3 sentences every time a thread about it pops up. I'd love to know what these people's lives are like irl since they seem to be able to post on this board 24/7.

>>724552036
bro.. playing hard your very first go is prolly not a good idea, especially not when you're still figuring out the basics. All it's gonna do is give you less room for errors to actually learn.
I've played both normal and hard so far and to clear hard without too much pain you really need to know the best moves and strategy for levels and bosses movesets and parry timings for bosses.
Doing all of this on hard on your first time is just insane even on normal and assuming you get all health upgrades some bosses will still have attacks that can oneshot you.

>>724552519
I mean 2shot you but still

>lost soul aside and ng4 cost the same
Lmfao, one of the most disappointing action games

>>724548303
>hasn't played the game
The Raven and The Dragon Falcon fly together.

>>724543657 (OP)
NG curse since the NES days
everything after the first game in a series gets progressively worse
I blame the Archfiend

>>724543657 (OP)
One of the all time funniest posts but DMC fags are too autistic to appreciate it.

>>724544985
Even though I understand it from a mechanical point of view, it's really stupid that enemies can enter a "guard" state without any kind of animation indicating that they are guarding.

>>724544474
The actual difference is that NG has way more invulnerability frames

>>724543657 (OP)
Owari da /v/, ore wa True Ninja.

Mondainai.

>>724552338
All charged BR attacks give you the instakill, only some non-charged BR attacks give you the instakill but they're all attacks that can't BE charged so it kind of makes sense.

The entire system is sort of weird anyway. You have to build this meter to enter this state that lets you use your other meter to enter this other state to charge an attack that gives you this thing. Does Berserk even do anything EXCEPT give you access to instakills? Why do that at all? Why not just make Berserk state into the "ultimate ultimate technique" and have activating it do an instant screen clear? I mean that's how you functionally use it anyway, it just comes with a bunch of extra steps.

If anyone managed to S Rank Kurobo (wind dog), how?? HOW did you do it?

>>724553850
I didn't do it but can't you just abuse the box especially on his powered up attacks in phase 2 that start from the other side of the stage

It's fine to be bad at games like DMC and NG, just start with DMC1 and move to DMC3 or NG from there. Look up the inputs for moves in DMC1 though since you were expected to check the physical manual for them.

>>724553418
What makes it stupid? What's bad about enemies being able to defend themselves?

>>724554458
Nothing, it's just stupid that they don't actually defend themselves. I'd be fine with it if after a certain number of hits, enemies automatically blocked your attacks, I just don't like that they don't BLOCK, they just glow white and stop taking damage. The game treats it as blocking (guard break still crushes the state and stuns them) but they don't actually adopt a defensive posture and BLOCK, they just sort of stand there.

I get that it's to allow them to keep attacking it just looks retarded and doesn't make sense.

>>724553657
It must do something since there are trials that give you 'zerk mode but no BR/gleam

>>724543657 (OP)
ban all phoneposters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKeB5ah1ljg
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>>724553657
>You have to build this meter to enter this state that lets you use your other meter
You can use it any time you like, but the berserk state lets you instakill enemies with charged attacks. When you enter berserk you get a significant boost to the bloodraven bar anyway, so the reality is you want to be using bloodraven as often as possible.

>>724554819
Makes perfect sense to me. They are armored and there is a visual tell to let you know.

>Bloodraven meter empty
>No berserk meter
>No blood orbs
>Only fucks on screen are tanky as shit
It's one of THOSE encounters

>>724557436
>Master Ninja difficulty
>Van Gelf appears in group fights
These fuckers gave me quite a bit of trouble.

>>724557436
just hit them bro

Maybe I am a scrub, but I enjoy the DMC combos inputs better.

>do a challenging side quest
>go back to shrine
>quit
>go enjoy nature in the evening for a couple of hours
>come back
>game didn't save