Thread 724563939

I will NEVER learn how to play mahjong no matter how many times Japanese devs force it into their games. It will NEVER happen.

filtered low IQ subhuman

>>724563939 (OP)
>Can't play something Chinese grandpas manage to play drunk and chain smoking at 2 AM
Ngmi

>>724563939 (OP)
Why do they insist on using fantasy words for their game?
Just use shit like three of a kind, pair, straight, flush etc

>>724563939 (OP)
bro its just poker with tiles
4 triplets and 1 pair
the triplets can be a straights or 3 of a kind

you now know how to play mahjong

I won one game of mahjong in a Yakuza game by complete accident so I consider myself a pro and have no reason to play more

>see post about demonic mahjong on /v/
>bite
>it just dumps so much information on you in the first 5 minutes
it genuinely made me laugh out loud

>>724563939 (OP)
i quit after getting 13wait 13 orphans in mahjong soul once

It's just like poker or something except instead of a small hand you have a big hand. It's just like a 'leveled-up' version of several card games. if you can play cards, you can play mahjong.

Why can I track complex multiplayer games of mtg or battletech no problem but when I try to learn boomer games like poker and crib my brain just shuts off? The drunkest dumbest bastards I know play these games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSwRi6OHY50

filtered

>>724565679
you are twitch reflex reptile, not a social deduction mammal

One day I'm going to learn MCR solely so I can understand why chinks need giant tiles and just throw their discards in the middle randomly like cavemen.

>>724566591
Bullshit artist! I'm the king of tricking my opponents into playing into my hand. We play the same environment as poker fags too, kitchen table, smoking and drinking.

mahjong is fun

doko?

>>724563939 (OP)
The only thing its inclusion in other vidya has accomplished is making me want a solver I can use to cheese the matches, if not outright cheats so I can always win and be done with it.

>>724567173
being successful in poker relies on playing the pot and probability. If you're playing against casuals who don't care about that, its not gonna be as reliable

How about learning Go for Char?

>>724565058
Reddit ass post

>>724564263
those chinkpas are 68 were playing since they were 8, anon's probably trying to learn fresh at like ~25-35 so he doesn't care as much

>>724567660
that's not Char

>>724567773
iwasgonnasayy....

>>724563939 (OP)
Here's for you OP

>>724563939 (OP)
Mahjong is just exotic playing cards.

I buy Yakuza every year just to play mahjong and watch more increasingly stupid Japanese gangster soap opera. I love it.
I know there are actual mahjong games I can play instead but they all have that anime cringe gacha look to them.

I learned mahjong solely to be able to understand Akagi

Still absolutely suck ass at it though. I can't even remember the Yaku.

>20 matches in a row 3rd or 4th
>About to be demoted back to silver
Have i been abandoned by the flow? Is this what despair feels like?

>>724565449
I quit because I became way too addicted to it.

>>724569464
Yakuza has never once had fair computer players. They cheat. Mahjong in other games is much better, but because Yakuza is where Westerners are usually exposed to it first we think all mahjong is like that

>>724570278
Yeah it's very unfair sometimes but I do alright. I have fun.

>>724563939 (OP)
>gonna learn mahjong
>make it through the youtube tutorial
>first real game
>not looking like a complete moron
>guy next to me unveils a hand called some shit like "Heavenly Bean Collector's Triple Storm Bamboo Forest"
>never heard of it before, apparently legal on his side of the Beijing street he used to live at as a child
>trillion points
>he's sitting at the chair that's the third round's Eastern Wind
>extra quadrillion points
>my physical body is instantly obliterated
>my soul is sentenced to a million years of whatever afterlife the Chinese believe in
>decent third round for him (he still might lose after the fourth one)

>play mahjong
>instinctively chi/pon and open my hand
>get no legitimate Yaku like a fucking retard
Everytime

>>724564263
The Chinese are basically playing bingo it’s not the same as riichi mahjong folded over one thousand times

>>724563939 (OP)
>talks about Japanese mahjong
>posts Chinese mahjong
weak

>>724574259
This is literally just fursuits for weebs

You shouldn't be proud of your ignorance

>>724563939 (OP)
I feel like the appearance of your average Chinese vs Japanese Mahjong table during play is a good microcosm of those cultures.

>>724574736
>West player

>>724574736
pon nya.jpg

>>724574736
>Single tile
>Only East and Red yaku
>Waiting on an 8
Real life bronze room

>>724574953
That's East anon

>>724575020
I feel like the reference sheets and everyone else's hands being spaced out into sets is a more direct hint at that

>>724575039
No it's not you're blind. The opposing player has the 東 marker in front of him

>>724575039
Seat winds rotate. He started as east.

>>724575039
I was looking at it but unfamiliar with that block.
I assumed that the red piece moves to the current dealer and the blocks stays still to show the original positions, then you flip it over in the south round.

>>724575117
>>724575141
That's not what the marker is for. It marks the round wind and which player was original east, so you know when the round switches to south.
The compass in the the middle shows it's the east player

I'm making a Mahjong game.
https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/qrm/

>>724575393
Can I make better looking tiles for you?
Serious question

>>724575249
So what? These niggers have to move aside that indicator just to pick up this big nigger square and rotate it every round when they could just move one little thingo?

>>724575517
That's old footage, they look much better already. Thanks for the offer.

>>724564384
I don't know what any of that means and I'm 38

>>724575608
Can I see what they look like now

>>724563939 (OP)
it's just poker with extra steps

>>724575556
I mean, traditionally there's nothing in the middle and whoever's sitting east just hangs onto the dice and you can find the other seats based on that so nobody has to move anything
American players insist on using these stupid compass things because they can't remember E>S>W>N for some reason

It’s not that hard, and it’s fun*

>>724568967
Why are the birds not given a full hand and why is it only land animals that get a specific set bonus?

>>724569464
>anime
There was 5000000 mahjong games released in 2000 alone, none of which have anime. For me it's Ultimate Mahjong 5, you can customise the tilesets and even use non eastern themed ones.

>>724563939 (OP)
But seriously why can't they just add chess everyone knows chess

>>724574259
>>724574335
>even has gloves
Just use makeup and a wig tf

>>724575909
>There was 5000000 mahjong games released in 2000 alone, none of which have anime.
You can't be serious, pretty much all of them have anime

>>724575909
that's mahjong solitaire, common mistake

>>724575939
Shogi

>>724575920
That's somewhat better but I think the corners need to be rounded more and also real sets (or any other mahjong video game for that matter) don't use blue ink, the winds are just black. I have no idea why that one vector graphic resource pack everyone uses made them blue.

>pinfu, tanyao or toitoi every single hand
My brain is smooth and i am happy

How’s gensou mahjong? It’s super expensive is it worth it?

>>724575939
Or mancala. It's ancient/classy, but the simplicity makes it wonderful for minigame purposes. If you're worried about first player's advantage, just do the thing where the second one can switch places.

https://files.catbox.moe/r69eu9.mp4
lmao XD

>>724563939 (OP)
don't call chi and pon
discard all 1,9 and special tiles until you can call ron
congratulations, you know how to play mahjong at a basic level

>>724575992
I am serious. Mahjong shovelware was an entire genre and every aunt had copies of some variation of it. None of which had anime in. Were you even alive 20 years ago?

>>724575780
>American players insist on using these stupid compass things because they can't remember E>S>W>N for some reason
You have it backwards. The north, south, east, and west are cardinal directions. A compass reflects the cardinal directions.

The problem is the japs and chinks got this fucking backwards. They swapped East and west. The real issue is that the order is actually seasonal, not cardinal.

>>724563939 (OP)
>maybe it will click this time
>20 consecutive rounds of furiten
i don't fucking get it.

>>724576439
Just stop calling tiles asshole

>>724576094
You made me check my own tiles and you're right, I'll fix the wind colors when I'm done with my current thing.
I've also been trying to make the edges smoother without adding too many tris cause there's 136 of them in the scene. I'm not really a 3D modelling guy, so I just split the faces at the edges and applied some Shade Smooth normals which helped a bit.

>>724576374
You're talking about solitaire. The original post you replied to is talking about mahjong.

>>724576439
20 rounds of furiten in a row is so hard that even a master couldn't do it on purpose. Stop playing tiles randomly.

as someone that doesn't know mahjong I feel like it really isn't even that much more difficult than something like poker, it's just that it requires you to essentially learn an entirely new deck of cards alongside it and most people (myself included) get tripped up at that hurdle

>>724576429
>You have it backwards.
It's E>S>W>N in turn order. I know it's backwards from a compass when laid out on the table. The thing in the middle is a printed out version of a product called the AMOS Compass so people just call it a "compass," I'm not talking about a real compass here

>play some Mahjong Soul, get to gold rooms, decent success there
>finally get to play offline
>no idea which tiles to pick from the wall
>much slower than anyone else
>don't call any pon or chii without an indicator
>can't see own riichi
>furiten into chombo
>they switch me (and only me) with someone else for the next set
and that was the last time I ever played mahjong

>>724565058
lmao this but poker

i'll play mahjong soul if theres a touhou gacha

>>724576654
It's easier than poker. You have 1-9 in three suits, the winds that are basically like the railroads in monopoly and lastly you have green and red chinese. Some sets are nice and have blank tiles that you can use as a replacement tile if you lose any of the others.

>>724576510
>>724576549
>you clicked the wrong picture and now you get to sit there like a fucking moron for 5 minutes while the hand finishes
what a fun game

>>724576654
It's only difficult in the sense that you get information overload at all the new rules and people using Japanese names for hands that have English names for some reason like "Tanyao" instead of "All Simples" or "Chiitoitsu" instead of "Seven Pairs". If you listen to >>724576367 and just learn the most basic of basic hands you can play just fine, and then you start fishing for slightly more complicated hands down the line.

>>724564384
The problem is scoring out.

>>724576683
at least they didnt start asking you to count fu manually

>>724574259
KOYORIIIIIIII

Doko

>>724576829
You really don’t get it that furiten is actually hard to come across if you have any basic idea on how the game works right? In essence you would have to be sitting there like a fucking moron clicking random shit to even be in furiten, and even then get lucky because statistically pressing random shit won’t get you into furiten

>>724563939 (OP)
Mahjong is basically Canasta with straights. Piss easy to learn.

>>724577007
just make the room yourself you...you...DOUBLE NYAGGER

>>724576529
Do this with it. Same number of tris as what you have there but it'll actually be rounded.
The easiest way would be to just undo whatever you did here and get it back to a basic box, then do a fillet modifier. Tweak the settings for it (should be either 1 or 2 levels, can't remember) and it'll get you this exactly

>>724576801
>Some sets are nice and have blank tiles that you can use as a replacement tile if you lose any of the others.
those were the white dragons, anon...

>>724576660
I’m saying you have it backwards when blaming westerners for getting it confused when really naming the seats as cardinal directions and not following the cardinal directions is fucking stupid.

>>724577115
Yeah that's fine, I was just arguing against the guy crying that lifting up and rotating a square is too much work because traditionally that's not even a thing you do

I play mahjong almost everyday in VRChat

>>724577025
>You really don’t get it
that's what i said, dickhead

>>724576801
>It's easier than poker.
It really isn't, it's WAY more rules dense.

Mahjong does great damage to the human spirit for no benefit.

>>724577213
What's your fursona, bb?

>>724567428
lmao

>>724576873
Listen to this guy. Start with the basic shit. Try to build for All Simples (without opening your hand ie. don't call chi or pon) or all triplets for 10-20 games and work your way up the mountain slowly.

>>724577442
Ew sorry, I'm a cute anime girl :3

>>724563939 (OP)
From what I've read Mahjong is really dangerous anyways. All major political fights are determined with it.

>>724577573
ew gross yucky

>>724573340
btfo

>>724576873
The reason for using the Japanese name for the hands is just courtesy really. it’s what their names are when the japs play hold ‘em poker the hand names are just katakana for the English names, full house is still furu hausu for instance

>>724577647
Total furfag death

>>724576801
It's "easier" in the sense you get the basics: ( >>724564384 ) but it's NOt "easier" in actually scoring/winning: ( >>724576873 )

That's where a lot of the issue for Mahjong comes in. You can say "you have to make pairs and then show them" to Western folks and they'll get that. But then you throw in BUT you get higher scores if you DON'T show your pairs and hold out for a ~~hero~~ Richii which is where you lose them.

It's honestly funny that RGG still includes Mahjong in the western release and STILL doesn't have a decent tutorial for it for Western players.

>>724576150
what the fuck is pinfu, i never get it

>>724577780
What's RGG

>>724577573
>:3
I know what you are.

>>724577847
Ryu Ga Gotoku, formerly: Yakuza.

It's included Mahjong in each release (bar 3, pre "remaster'ed's release) and each time Western players bitch about it becuase the rules aren't properly explained. It's why "don't 100% the games" is a meme because Mahjong will stop most players dead on that front.

>>724577840
Closed hand, no triplets, non-value pair (anything but dragons or round/seat winds), two-sided wait.
Traditionally it was "a hand worth no additional fu beyond the base value" but in the modern game there are enough special cases with that that it's easier to just strictly define it

>>724577840
Closed hand, all sequences (i.e. no triplets) with at least a 2tile wait to complete the last sequence

>>724577840
Basically a closed hand with all sequences don’t think too hard about it you’ll get pinfu sometimes

Specifically it’s a closed hand with no inherent fu, so no honors, no pair wait, the wait must be for instance 45 waiting on 3 or 6

>>724565483
(Chink) Mahjong and rummy are literally cousin games after all.

>>724578041
>>724578050
oh i thought there was an all sequences hand, i just didnt see it in the list

>>724578253
It's a lot more complicated than "all sequences" but when you're doing a basic closed tile efficiency riichi hand it'll just kind of happen automatically quite frequently

>>724567660
Sauce?

If it makes any of you feel better,
I grew up playing it and Western card games scare me.

>>724577904
A cute mahjong playing anime girl!

>>724578431
If you say so furry.

>>724578496
I'll kill you

>>724578018
I only played Y0 and while Mahjong AI is annoying that's a walk in the park compared to GO matches

Majsoul Friends Room 19363(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=19363

One time I was playing one of these mahjong minigames in something and I got a rinshan kaihou and it was apparently a big fucking deal and I still don't know why. Mechanically the game is fun but christ that scoring system is peak asian autism. Big numbers for the sake of it, I respect and am horrified by it.

>>724578874
Why do you insist on playing on this chink datamine with forced login instead of a site like Tenhou that allows guest plays?

>>724579084
basically you won because your winning tile was drawn from a pool of tiles that are hard to draw from (only when declaring you have a set of 4)
its a scoring system designed to cheat random gamblers in the 1800s so it makes sense its complicated

>>724563939 (OP)
It's fine when Yakuza games just have things like "go out 10 times" or "win this much money from playing", but it really burns my ass when they start asking you to build specific hands like full straights.

>>724576374
Mahjong solitaire is not real Mahjong. It's just a simple matching game played with Mahjong tiles.

>>724579096
Sorry....

>>724579084
>I got a rinshan kaihou and it was apparently a big fucking deal and I still don't know why
Because the odds of calling kan in tenpai and the next draw being your winning tile are abysmally low and you know that, humble-bragging retard

>>724577094
Took me a while to get the process right (I'm really not a 3D guy) but this looks good now, thanks.

>>724579316
I always draw kan though, it's all four tiles and I want them all.

>>724579342
Sweet, that's already much better. It looks like some of the edges aren't marked soft though, if you select the whole model and do soft shading you should be golden

>>724578718
Mahjong AI is messed up in Yakuza. The easiest tables are actually the hardest and vice versa and this wasn't corrected until either Ishin Kiwami or 8 where it seems like they finally addressed.
>Easy tables are the only ones I've ever seen yakuman, they constantly get baimans, they know how to read discards, they refuse to discard anything that could get you a ron reasonably, and they steal tiles efficiently.
>Very Hard/Royal tables are drunks who will steal every tile on the table, do 1000 point hands to troll you and everyone around you, never go above a mangan, do extremely low value plays, and could be considered legitimately braindead.

>>724579385
Calling kan by itself is nothing impressive. All you need is make enough triplets and the fourth tile will inevitably come up. It's not always smart either, because it adds kandora, which can increase the value of your opponents' hands and bite you in the ass.

>>724579457
I thought only the edges and not the flat sides should be shader smooth'ed, but I think it does look a bit better when the big sides are smooth as well.

>>724564384
alright, sure. But then you have to consider that, if you take someone elses tile, you have to go for a super special awesome combo. YOu cant just take tiles and then go for 4 random triplets and a pair. You have to go for 4 triples of the same suit, 4 rows of the same suit, a straight. its super unforgiving if you struggle with the random ass tile design (especially the japanese characters) and have to consider wind bullshit and what not.

Comparing it to poker is like comparing Twilight Imperium to Risk and proclaiming "its basically the same~!"

>>724579276
Itsu isn't that hard to get if you're actually going for it. The only problems I ever had in Yakuza were getting the open hand achievement in Yakuza 3 and the yakuza substory in kiwami 2 because im autistic and did it without cheating.

>>724579517
I'm gonna level with you when I was trying to get Mahjong completion in K2 I played every damn difficulty table and got equally assreamed at all of them
I never want to see that fucking Ron screen again. I don't even want to see the name Ron

>>724579613
All 12 edges are generally rounded equally

>>724579650
Mahjong has like one rule and that's that you need yaku to win/score points. Randomly stealing shit gives you no yaku and even if you completed your hand it would be worth 0 points. It's really not any more complicated than learning winning poker hands. Sure, there's like 20 yaku that are relevant and that's more than poker but not by that much.

>>724580307
>Mahjong has like one rule

>furiten
>call priorities
>abortive draws
>sekinin barai
>kandora flip timing based on type of kan
>which yaku allow open hands or reduce value when open
>kan robbing and its special case for kokushi

I could go on and on
Mahjong is literally made of esoteric rules

>>724580105
I've played all the difficulties of every game because I 100% them and JE's friendship requirements + extras she requested and that's my experience. As soon as you play on easy tables the game gets harder and vice versa. Black Panther 2 was the only older game to have proper difficulties.

I don't know anything about mahjong.
Is this funny?

>>724581289
He doesn't have a hand that's going anywhere.
He would need another south tile or another 1 bamboo (The bird) for a triplet, then he'd need to discard the 1 character, he'd need to get a 7 character and decide if the 8 or 5 go, and then he'd need a 7 bamboo for him to actually win.

Even with that winning hand he'd have what, North/South wind if that's even on the table and a closed hand assuming he didn't ron?

>>724575909
This. Anyway check out this new poker game I copped.

>>724567503
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>724581706
No, the dialogue

>>724578874
>New third party login on top of Google
Sorry bro, I just can't be bothered.

>>724581289
https://riichi.wiki/Local_yaku#American_Civil_War

>>724578874
can't join

>>724582168
Tenhou is better anyways

>>724579517
>AI is messed up in Yakuza
Is it really? Has this been noted anywhere? Because that's news to me.

I'm just upset that it doesn't properly explain the game past the basics. Like I said: when you start to explain open/closed hand rules that's when you lose most players and I feel like *Sega* of all people with how much they push that mini-game (well include it anyway) could really break it down for western players easier than they do.

>>724563939 (OP)
It's all luck anyway, don't worry about it.

literally all the "advanced" and fancy yaku are just based off of having a good understanding of the fundamentals. riichi is very well designed and balanced. you really don't need to know more than the basic yaku to play most rounds

>>724582083
he basically made that shit up and is playing it straight

>>724575851
didn't want to overwhelm with the yakus

>>724581942
heh

>>724581289
All I can tell you is that a spoof of Naki no Ryuu
For some reason it's referenced a fuckton and I cannot fucking tell if they're all taking the piss because it's garbage or if it was actually influential in japan.

>>724582726
You can't really make a simple tutorial for the game. After the first five minutes of explaining the absolute basic rules you get smacked with the list of 37 winning hands you need to memorize. You then need to play a couple of hours at that level to really grasp the fundamentals of the game, which is more than any other Yakuza minigame asks of you. That alone puts off almost everyone who doesn't already know the game.
Most westerners will never get to point where discarding strategy and building hands comes into play. You know, the stuff that actually makes mahjong fun to play.

>>724583821
Just teach them the basic hands and the Open vs Closed Hands. Most of the huge hands aren't really that complex, you can typically tell you have something special just by looking at it

Use this one simple trick to get to jade room in mahjong soul: don’t ever call anything, ever. Bonus points for never calling riichi either. Enjoy your climb anon.

>pretty good at chess
>never learned to play checkers
the only reason i might want to play mahjong is the cool domino-like tiles

>>724582726
>Is it really? Has this been noted anywhere?
Nope, I'm the only one who has really brought it up because I've 100%ed every game and it's something I've noticed over around 100+ hours of mahjong games over the years. It more recently stopped being a thing around either IK, LJ, or 8, I can't remember which exactly, but the highest tier in those is actually hitting baimans, regularly reading discards, and playing smart hands whereas the low levels are stealing everything and braindead.

It's just something you figure out from experience going for the completion list requirements in each game, especially the early games where you're required to get a 50k win (You either first place or you don't get it).

>>724583097
Thanks.
I held onto that image for 3 years because I didn't understand it.
>you could have learned mahjong in that time
No.

I almost quit, but they gave me a wife for free. So I will play until I get her bond outfit.

>>724584086
Better to be one of the Tigers than King of the Rats

>>724563939 (OP)
The tiles always looked so tasty to me...

>>724584549
damafags do not deserve human rights

instead of learning fancy chinese poker, learn a real strategy game

>>724583648
Now that's something I never would have known.
Very cool.

>>724586172
Perfect information games are boring
All real life implementations of strategy involve unknowns, gauging odds, and taking risks

>>724584549
Riichi adds so much fucking potential value that staying dama is very situational

>>724566591
Bro! He said he plays Battletech. Fucking Battletech! That's not a twitch reflex game in the slightest.

I've played 2 irl mahjong hands and not only did I win them both I had to correct some dumb bitch I was playing with about drawing and discarding the wrong amount of tiles multiple times

why isnt there a shogi gacha

>>724587145
>All real life implementations of strategy involve unknowns, gauging odds, and taking risks
this is true of perfect information games too though

It's a pretend game, nobody knows the rules and the confident people intimidate others by sheer force of will into believing that THEY know the rules, it is a social game with made up BS house rules that could change by the day and nobody would notice a thing.

>>724563939 (OP)
It's literally just gin rummy with three suits, more cards and more complicated rules for going out

i bought a physical set of tiles and a junk mat, how do i convince my friends to play mahjong with me?

Jongcels be seething over fudachads.

Stupid gook nonsense lmao

>>724563939 (OP)
I learned it in a day. how stupid are you?

>>724590467
hanafuda isn't a game, it's a type of card deck
you'll have to be more specific

>>724590557
No you didn't

>>724590528
Gooks don't even play mahjong you retard, it's a chink and jap game

>>724590596
>hanafuda isn't a game, it's a type of card deck
just like mahjong, it isn't one specific game either

>>724589034
Because shogi is just complicated chess. Are there even any chess gachas?
At least there's mahjong Balatro.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3066570/Aotenjo_Infinite_Hands/

>>724575628
It's all English anon, pretending to be retarded doesn't make you interesting.

>>724579650
>But then you have to consider that, if you take someone elses tile,
The fact that you even knew you could do that means you know how to play mahjong and don't apply to OP.

>>724590697
No, mahjong is a specific game with variants that developed in other regions when it was imported.
Unless you're going to claim that stacking a bunch of tiles and playing solitaire is "mahjong" which it's not.

>>724589294
I mean, I guess kinda, in the same way that you can call a fighting game a "strategy game." That element is a lot more interesting and present when you don't know exactly what your opponent has and you need to figure out if you're reading their signals correctly or if they're bluffing you.

>>724563939 (OP)
>>724573881
riichi is classic over designing. the point system rewards RNG more than hand construction and adjustment on the fly. weebs will then claim this as skill

>>724590710
>Are there even any chess gachas?
I’m surprised no company has done this yet. Just imagine how much money they could make from weebs being banned for cheating and losing their accounts.

>>724590697
He means there isn't a game called "hanafuda," that's the name of the cards. The game you usually see is called koi-koi.
Calling it hanafuda is like calling poker "french suited playing cards"

>>724582738
skill issue

>>724591107
You'd like JPML rules, they remove pretty much every chance-based thing from the game. No ura dora, no kandora, no ippatsu, etc

>>724591110
The existence of chess engines means it's an incredible undertaking for any online chess client to exist and deal with cheaters. It's an endless cat and mouse game and something like a gacha that wouldn't be for serious play anyways couldn't be assed.

>>724567153
it feels fucking great to slam that shit down, none of that pussy ass organizing
just get better at tracking who played what
pretty sure in actual competitions they will play politely though

>>724567153
MCR has discards in rows though. You're probably thinking of HKOS or any of the other tangential informal Chinese variants

Yagi Yui

>>724591218
Actually it might still have ippatsu because opponents can nullify it by calling and if you deal into ippatsu it's your fault

>>724591495
>opponent calls riichi on their third draw
>everything in their discards is a terminal
>everything discarded up to this point is a terminal
Yeah, no, not my fault if I get ippatsu'd

>>724591107
>riichi is classic over designing. the point system rewards RNG more than hand construction
riichi is way less down to luck of the draw than most other mahjong variants
in terms of rewarding luck over skill, jewish "mah-jongg" (lol) > chink mahjong > nip mahjong

>>724591663
Should've kept a terminal or honor just in case.

>>724563939 (OP)
It's just poker with more retarded combos

>>724583273
>implying owls are birds

Japs and Gooks just steal Chinese cultural goods.

>>724592656
...and make them worth spending time on

>>724592656
Maybe if the mainland would get their shit together, HK, Taiwan, and Japan wouldn't have to hold up all their country's culture they refuse to acknowledge

>>724593158
No problem, they will get a taste of some nuclear explosion soon enough.

>>724592303
The twist is that their wait was a pair wait on the single terminal that hadn't been discarded, because fuck you

Anyone tried that one Mahjong Balatro rip-off?

>>724593327
Aotenjo? yeah i like it a good bit
i wouldn't say it's as satisfying as balatro but it's more complex in a pleasant way
definitely not going to make sense to people who dont know the basics of the game

>>724563939 (OP)
the hardest part for me is not the yakus. any retard can pull off a kuitan
it's knowing how the fuck to decide what to discard, when to give up, etc. >muh suji doesn't do shit (fucking penchan and kanchan)
hell, most of the tricks against humans don't work against computers because unlike humans they're on a countdown to tsumo/ron

>>724594262
>kuitan
meant open tanyao. kuitan is the rule

>>724590467
oh hey i have this exact set

>>724594262
>Computers on a timer to tsumo/ron
I'm not even sure if it's possible to make a mahjong client that works like this. Are you saying they don't have actual hands going in the background or are you saying that the CPU know what's coming up in the draw wall and can make hands easier like that?

And having to vaguely read the room to make on the fly decisions on how to form your hand, what yaku to make, when to fold is the fun part of mahjong. Getting a tile and just having a bad feeling about it for the match to go to draw and seeing it's someone's winning tile is a nice feeling. And those times when you get a 9-terminal draw and have to make the decision on redrawing for a more consistent hand or play the game in a slightly more likely position to make a hand that can one-shot opponents is simply something unique to mahjong. Of course you can do shit like all-in strategies in poker, but poker is 100% about luck and player reading which makes it pretty boring if you're not playing for real money. Having the actual game mechanics and strategy to mahjong gives you so much to think about

>>724565679
I'm in the same boat. There's something really non-fluid to boomer games, probably due to the fact they were designed to happen in meatspace. It's similar to the combat of tabletop dungeon and dragons which is mind numbing boredom, all the fun being toying with the master of the game.

>>724564384
rather than poker, it's rummy. mahjong is very similar to rummy, making a hand of runs and triples/quads

>>724596865
a lot more people player poker/blackjack

>>724576150
pinfu, tanyao is like 101 mahjong
Can't go wrong with it. Fast, can have versatile waits and you can get it to a mangan with riichi+dora

>>724581706
Why?
Looks like a potential chanta.
If he draws a 7-man, he can discard the 5-man and wait for a 9-man.
6,8 sou is kinda shit but when he draws a 7 sou he has another meld

>>724595962
in plenty of games, especially older ones, doubly so for arcades, the cpu plays in adeterministic way. you'll notice shit like the computer being retarded seemingly on purpose and discard pieces that complete your tile groups without a second thought. other times the game is rigged in a way so that you can't win at all, no matter how much horribly you abuse savestates

>>724596865
how do you pronounce tiles? do you say ii-man, ryan-man, san-man, suu-man, uu-man, roo-man, chuu-man?

>>724596865
Nobody even knows what the fuck 'rummy' is? When's the last time you saw 'rummy' as a mini game in vidya? When's the last time you heard of casinos with rummy?

>>724598060
most people just say "1-man" or rarely "1 bamboo/circles/characters"

where the rooms at

>>724598649
No one joined. It's over.

>got so into mahjong and reading mahjong manga that I invented my own convoluted special mahjong ruleset for a story I was writing
>bought tabletop simulator and made a working version of it
>never had had anybody to play it with
>any time someone seems curious about it and I show them the rules, their eyes glaze over
Phillis Baddman

>>724598060
i use american mahjong terminology
bams, craks, dots

>>724598715
nyo...

>>724597906
I mean I feel like it's more of an issue of the computer knowing what's in the dead wall because it's easier to write AI logic with a complete information set, but I guess that's exactly what you mean by playing in a deterministic way. But I feel like shit like a hand being impossible to win because the CPU know what's in the wall isn't really the game being rigged, but more so just by the RNG of tile order that your draw sequence for that hand physically cannot complete a hand faster than every one of the CPU's decision trees will.

>>724563939 (OP)
I have no idea how this game is even played.

>>724592379
It really isn't, it's closer to rummy than poker

>>724564384
Yeah, but poker only have 5 cards and variation instead 13 tiles + variations to score. The problem with mahjong for me isn't the mechanic it's more like remembering the hands, too many variations to memorize unlike poker.

>>724598743
Can you post the ruleset for us?

>>724593327
>>724593509
Demonic Mahjong is FAR better than Aotenjo

>>724590710
>Because shogi is just complicated chess
yeah but it's so cool

>play chinese RPG
>the combat system is based around mahjong
>your opponent pulls out a 4 heavenly winds ascendant dragon richi fist and smashes you
>i don't even know what the fuck a richi is

>>724598060
ii-man, ryan-man, san-man, suu-man, uu-man, ro-man, chii-man, paa-man, kyuu-man

>>724598743
share it

>>724579517
>The easiest tables are actually the hardest and vice versa
MOTHERFUCKER! I thought there's something weird with the damn mahjong parlor!

>>724563939 (OP)
>>>/tg/

>>724598743
Show us the rules, nerd.

What's there to learn? Just get lucky lmao.

>>724598743
Some dudes on /vm/ made a TCG version of Mahjong