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Thoughts?

>>724600846 (OP)
PSX trannies are still seething about this to this day

This is one of the N64 games I missed out on and I kinda want to play. This and Ogre Battle 64. The only N64 games I really played back in the day were mainstream stuff like Zelda and Mario and James Bond.

>>724601162
>Ogre Battle 64.
You didnt miss anything. Its the kind of bad game thats also addictive like Stardew valley, but worse.

>>724601162
play perfect dark if you never did, it's goldeneye 2.0

>>724601412
I did but I didnt play it until it came out on the xbox 360

I have never in my life ever seen someone actually discussing this game. Is such a fucking meme, that the only reason people bring this game up, is just to mention that the N64 had a second JRPG besides paper mario.

Quest 64 is the worst game Iv ever played that I actually completed

Q64 has stayed in my mind more than FFVII. FFVII was good but I keep wondering what could have happened with Q64's battle system if it was improved by another team. The weird real time combat was interesting and the way stats interacted with it was cool. Your agility determining the size of your movement zone was cool because if you were more agile it really did make it easier to dodge attacks and if you had low agility it was impossible to dodge at times. Q64 and Hybrid Heaven stand out in my mind as the future of what a 3D RPG could play like but both ended up being genetic dead ends.

>>724600846 (OP)
I used to rent this as a kid, and I loved it. I eventually got filtered because I couldn't fully wrap my head around the turn-based combat, but I enjoyed what I could of it. I think it was the first game I played with a day/night cycle too, and I STILL remember the field music 30 years later.

I find games from this gen extremely hard to go back to. I'm not singling out the n64 or anything as I feel the same about the ps1.

>>724600846 (OP)

This was mediocre but had some soul

>>724600846 (OP)
I honestly want this to come to Nintendo Switch just to see how bad it actually is.
Only because I don't have a way to play N64 games at the moment

>>724601162
Ogre Battle 64 is good.
Quest 64 is dogshit.

How was the balance so lopsided that PS1 had 50+ JRPGs and N64 had TWO?

>>724602397
Because N64 had stupid cartridges because of "muh piracy"
Sony destroyed Nintendo in that era.

>>724600846 (OP)
yep, and ps1bros still havent recovered

Why can't more unfinished games be unfinished the way Quest 64 is unfinished?

Today, an unfinished game is a game where the total scope of the game is there and runs terribly or doesn't run at all. Quest 64 though is a game that acts like it was completely finished, then areas, whole npcs, and parts of the script were systematically deleted before shipping.

>>724602540
Funny enough piracy killed PSP and vita, devs didn't wanted to support Sony after the rampant piracy on the PSP

>>724602397
Japanese devs had almost no interest in developing games for the N64 due to high production cost/difficulty and low sales of the system in Japan.
>The N64 only had 2 rpgs
It had a few more in Japan, Zool, Shiren 2, Robopon 64 and a few more I'm forgetting, not Japanese but Aidyn Chronicles is an RPG too.
Hybrid Heaven is also technically an RPG.

I think i wouldve liked it more as a kid if it was faster. I got bored by it and i remember trading it for mischief makers and bomberman 64 - was a good trade.

>>724600846 (OP)
rented it for a weekend 'cuz I thought I could beat it with a gameshark
nope

>>724602397
I bet it was mostly storage.
A CD can hold 600 megabytes. N64 cartridges can hold 64 megabytes at most.
Games were already brushing up against the PS1's storage limits. The original Crash Bandicoot famously had to use randomized compression they had to run it over and over to get the game small enough by chance. They had 4 bytes of free space on the CD.
Cramming a game into barely a tenth the size would be much more difficult, if not impossible. Super Mario 64 had a sophisticated programmable sound engine to remix a small library of sounds on the fly, all to reduce file sizes.

>>724600846 (OP)
We got Pokemon which is bigger than Final Fantasy.

>>724600846 (OP)
Quest 64 is a catholic game for white chads

one of my favorite games. i love the aesthetic to this day

>>724601162
Quest 64 is one of the worst games I have ever played. Let’s just put it that way

>>724602694
Devs have too many excuses to choose from nowadays especially since everything is online and can be patched over time.

It's sad when you realize just how much of the game's potential they slashed and burned just to get it out the door, only for it to finally come out when OoT was right around the corner. I really do love its quaint graphical and music style, they almost come across as a "literal" next-gen interpretation of an SNES game to me. I just wish they weren't stuck in an extremely hollow game.

>>724602959
And much worse>>724602970

>>724600846 (OP)
It was confusing way back, but i wanna play it again cause it seemed.... iunno, unique?

>>724603957
Didn't mean to quote>>724602970

>>724600846 (OP)
I love the Shamwood music, but there is like one cover of it on youtube and it sugs, I wanted to make a Shamwood-themed ||startup scene in OBS||

>>724602397
For the same reason the Gamecube also lacked jrpgs: they tried to fuck over devs and publishers with proprietary media jewery, so they fucked right off and stuck with Sony.

>>724600846 (OP)
Because Nintendo bullied all the talent in the industry into going with Sony/Sega + cartridges sucked so no one wanted to work with them, there's a reason almost all the memorable games on the N64 wrte either made by Nintendo or made by companies owned by Nintendo

>>724602540
Nintendo spec'd hard into bring the platform for experimental 3D stuff, mainly platformers and action-adventure. Mario 64 pretty much defined what the system was for, to both consumers and developers.
Also, Nintendo were notoriously stingy about lending devkits to third parties, whereas Sony let anyone throw their shovelware on the platform.

a funnier statistic is to look at the number of 3D platformers on the Saturn. there were three; two of which were multiplats and one that was a licensed tie-in only released in Japan. If you want to know why the Saturn bombed, that's why. fifth gen was THE platformer gen, not having any major ones was suicidal.

quest 64's jp port is hilarious cause it fixes pretty much every fucking issue in the game, doubling the amount of gems all around, reducing the requirements for "critical" spells like heals and shield, nerfing the boss stats into the dirt so they're not grind walls, and adding an actual fucking ending.
It's a shame we never got that version in english until years later with fanslations.

>>724602970
Catholicism is Christianity for turd world pagans

>>724601162
Ogre Battle 64 is amazing. I emulated it probably 5 years ago and it was still great. Only annoyance was you need a guide to get all the cool units.
Quest 64 I played way back when and I thought it was good but I never tried to play it again.

>>724604457
Catholicism is european
Protestantism is a weird jewish offshoot of catholicism

>>724605085
protestantism was created because the Vatican was being too lenient on Jewish tricks

>>724600846 (OP)
Never EVER sonyfags!

>>724600846 (OP)
I've tried to finish this piece of shit like three times and can never get through it

>>724600846 (OP)
it's dogshit but not even the worst rpg for the n64

>>724606234
Don't feel bad, it's not worth the grind and the tedium.

>>724605490
protestant countries are the jewish strongholds of the world
martin luther was a philosemite until he changed his mind much later in life

Combat is good.
Parasite Eve copied it.

>>724606527
Holy shit, I was looking for this for ages.
I just assumed I hallucinated a "combat circle roaming open world permadeath n64 game" and when I was looking for it I was always pointed toward Quest 64 and some fighting game.

The problem with Quest 64 is that it looks like you're supposed to play it like a mage or wizard when in reality it's a game meant to be played as a melee brawler.
Go into the water tree until you get a heal spell and then beat everything with your staff to raise your hit points.
I did Wind/Water my first playthrough because I didn't know any better but if I played it again I'd go Water/Earth.
Wind was absolutely fine but it's not as practical as Earth is end game.

Earthchads sound off. Windcucks and Firefags fuck off. Watersisters, you’re okay.

>>724600846 (OP)
I've tried to finish this piece of shit like three times and can never get through it

Game that deserves a remake so maybe it could actually be finished, Quest was too ambitious for its own good and once it got scaled back it was over

which one of the two is the worst offender of "stripped down JRPG"?

>>724611854
Final Fantasy 7 RE

>>724600991
ps1*

>>724600846 (OP)
The history of the development of Quest 64 is FAR more interesting than the game itself. What we got was essentially an alpha build of the game. The story was suppose to be way more expanded on, multiple party members, a less clunky magic system, actual currency, and battery saved data. However it was pushed out 18 months too early to try to beat Ocarina of Time. I dunno why they thought Quest 64 was going to compete with OoT but it ultimately ruined the game.

The game is completely terrible and only has contrarian faggots that pretend to like it to be edgy or something.

>>724608387
That's how I played the game. I found stick beatdowns to do more damage than most spells in the game. The only real strong offensive spell you get is Avalanche. Fire and wind are memes outside of magic barrier from fire. Water is only useful for healing and field utility.

>>724601721
Their genetic legacy lives on somewhat in trails and the neptunia rebirth games.

Is there another game with combat like this but more polished?

>>724616250
Parasite Eve 1.

>>724604369
Sony being so lenient with dev kits sparked a neat early indie scene.