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Yesterday was 9/11 for turn-based purists and Square Enix haters
How will they ever recover from this?
Anonymous No.724627254 [Report] >>724627618 >>724628903 >>724634483 >>724634703 >>724634795 >>724639289 >>724643069 >>724643587 >>724649876 >>724658810
Real time lost.

Cope and seethe.
Anonymous No.724627618 [Report] >>724639893
>>724627145 (OP)
>How will they ever recover from this?
They won't. They will just continue to whine that real time games are hard and confusing. Case in proof right here: >>724627254
Anonymous No.724627645 [Report] >>724627775 >>724627990
>>724627145 (OP)
So why does it explicitly say "Remake Intergrade" and not "Shitbirth"?
Anonymous No.724627685 [Report] >>724636317
>>724627145 (OP)
Both are opportunist faggots and this is cringe as fuck.
Anonymous No.724627686 [Report]
Kino.
Rebirth won GOTY and sold millions btw.
Anonymous No.724627758 [Report]
>people in charge of final fantasy are looking up to french nepo babies
grim
Anonymous No.724627775 [Report]
>>724627645
Because it's an event where remake is releasing for switch 2. I don't think they announced rebirth for switch 2 yet
Anonymous No.724627990 [Report]
>>724627645
Because Remake is being released for Switch 2 and Xbox in January, retard.
Anonymous No.724628383 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
I'll just continue not buying FF games. like the last 1.5 decades.
Anonymous No.724628519 [Report] >>724628817 >>724628895 >>724634862
>>724627145 (OP)
kinda embarassing how squeenix constantly tries to leech off E33 LMAO
Anonymous No.724628617 [Report] >>724629090 >>724630918 >>724636382
>>724627145 (OP)
Who told the artist to race swap the chars during development?
Anonymous No.724628692 [Report] >>724628837
>>724627145 (OP)
What's the point of making real time games with turn based mechanics though?
FO4 did this but making VATS slow time with highlighting instead of paused with overlay and it was just fucking annoying.
Anonymous No.724628727 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
Hi Tendie, try to be more subtle when falseflagging
Anonymous No.724628817 [Report]
>>724628519
And vice-versa. SE has turn based games already. Sandfall is running hard in the HELLO FELLOW TURN BASED
Anonymous No.724628837 [Report] >>724629171
>>724628692
What do you mean? FF7R is a real time game, you can just pause the action to choose an ability from the menu, if required.
Anonymous No.724628889 [Report] >>724629185 >>724634652
>Sell out your fans to appease shareholders
>Stock tanks anyway
Common Squenix L
Anonymous No.724628895 [Report]
>>724628519
It's a dual leeching though, right now the controversy with FF is pure free marketing, you are the underdog and Square enix while confused wants to latch onto this western game because gaijins love it for some reason (hamaguchi didn't even play e33 till they send him a copy)
Anonymous No.724628903 [Report] >>724629008 >>724655787
>>724627254
>faglus
Imagine being owned by a poorfag company like seg -ACK
Anonymous No.724629008 [Report] >>724629271 >>724636251
>>724628903
Weird how the only other game company that also makes consoles didn't seem to count for this ranking.
Anonymous No.724629090 [Report]
>>724628617
>white guy, white girl, asian girl
>race swapped to a white guy, white girl, asian girl
>SJWs complained on release that the game was racist because it was too white when 99% of the game is just about 5 family members and the several different painted versions of them
???
Anonymous No.724629108 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
SaGa team must feel like shit
Anonymous No.724629171 [Report] >>724629225
>>724628837
When was the last time they made a turn based FF game? Remember when FFI had D&D spell slots before they reconned it to mana for the rerelease?
Anonymous No.724629185 [Report]
>>724628889
It hasn't been a good year for turn-turd fags. heh
Anonymous No.724629225 [Report]
>>724629171
Ever Crisis is turn-based.
Anonymous No.724629271 [Report]
>>724629008
Nintendo is the only Japanese company that makes consoles.
Anonymous No.724629292 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
9/11 for /vpol/
Anonymous No.724629301 [Report] >>724629474
>>724627145 (OP)
Yesterday was the 30th retard
Anonymous No.724629474 [Report] >>724636391
>>724629301
>he doesn't know what 9/11 refers to
grim
Anonymous No.724629562 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
reminder that E33 head honco is certified FF8 chad so of course he mogs the virgin remake director
Anonymous No.724629567 [Report]
feels good when you're capable of liking more than 1 game
Anonymous No.724629917 [Report] >>724630092 >>724630580 >>724631935
>Turn Based fans lost because some guys whose entire motivation is "make a turn based final fantasy ripoff because Square Enix couldn't" actually impressed the company?
Anonymous No.724630080 [Report] >>724630462
>>724627145 (OP)
Everything I heard about 33 made it sound like complete shit
Anonymous No.724630092 [Report] >>724630220 >>724630663
>>724629917
But se made turn based games
Anonymous No.724630220 [Report] >>724630580
>>724630092
Emphasis on 'made'
Anonymous No.724630462 [Report]
>>724630080
Clean the shit from your ears then.
Anonymous No.724630580 [Report]
>>724629917
>>724630220
A third (fourth) Octopath game is coming out in a month.
Anonymous No.724630663 [Report] >>724631473
>>724630092
majority of what they released last year was turn-based, it's just new FF that abandoned it
Anonymous No.724630821 [Report] >>724631097 >>724632935 >>724643210
>>724627145 (OP)
Square didn't recover since FFXIII. Frenchies are the last hope for the genre.
Anonymous No.724630918 [Report]
>>724628617
Wish we had that UE4 version instead, even if it means sacrificing facial animation.
Anonymous No.724631097 [Report] >>724631181 >>724631654
>>724630821
Square Enix still makes tons of turn-based games, you turn-tards just pretend that they don't exist.
Anonymous No.724631181 [Report]
>>724631097
How many of them are good or even just not shovelware?
Anonymous No.724631473 [Report] >>724633049
>>724630663
and FF is a flagship series for the studio that had millions of people fall in love with the games before they started chasing after the zoomer and streamer audience who hadn't touched the series.
although I do think letting toriyama run wild with the mainline games for over half a decade just so he could jerk off about much he loved the OC he wrote on stage was the beginning of the end.
Anonymous No.724631568 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
Are turn based haters retarded? This literally vindicates turn based GODs because SE is bowing down to based Frenchies making turn based games admitting that they were wrong.
Anonymous No.724631654 [Report] >>724631767 >>724631954 >>724631986 >>724634876 >>724634969 >>724635079 >>724643559
>>724631097
>it doesn't matter than their flagship IP that put them on the map and was turn based for 20 years turned into action slop, because their shitty side games nobody has heard about or played and are made by different teams do have turns!
Compelling argument
Anonymous No.724631767 [Report] >>724633712
>>724631654
Golden era Square wasn't just FF.
Anonymous No.724631856 [Report]
what's a 9/11? moreover, what happened yesterday?
Anonymous No.724631935 [Report] >>724632043 >>724632084 >>724632653 >>724636389
>>724629917
>make a turn based final fantasy ripoff
e33 is not turn based, but a non functional hybrid.
Anonymous No.724631954 [Report] >>724633384 >>724633418
>>724631654
Cry harder, turn tranny. Most people can play both action and turn-based games, because they have at least a normal IQ and two functioning hands.
Anonymous No.724631986 [Report]
>>724631654
>Compelling argument
Yes. Much better than
>T-those don't count!
Anonymous No.724632019 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
Square enix so fucking washed that they have to grovel in front of the e33 french chads
This is sad
Anonymous No.724632021 [Report]
sandfall director loves final famtasy 8 thats why you see all the dicksucking
Anonymous No.724632043 [Report]
>>724631935
>non functional
Werks on my machine.
Anonymous No.724632084 [Report]
>>724631935
>e33 is not turn based
this fucking thread lmao
Anonymous No.724632309 [Report] >>724632407 >>724632490
>>724627145 (OP)
>FFXVI
>first mainline 100% action game
>kills the franchise
yeah howd that work out for square enix
Anonymous No.724632407 [Report] >>724632446 >>724632458
>>724632309
Keep on coping, Barry.
Anonymous No.724632446 [Report]
>>724632407
They're both shit FFXVI shill
Anonymous No.724632458 [Report]
>>724632407
This was clearly made with turn-based fans in mind.
Anonymous No.724632490 [Report] >>724632536
>>724632309
>first mainline 100% action game
XV was memoryholed that hard, huh?
Anonymous No.724632508 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
both of those games are fucking garbage
there's nothing to care about for turn-based people
final fantasy hasn't been turn-based for fucking decades and it won't start with this new piece of shit remakes/sequals/trash, it's all trash
Anonymous No.724632536 [Report]
>>724632490
I think he means that it's the first time they've completely done away with the RPG stuff. XV may have had action but it at least pretending to still somewhat be a JRPG. XVI is just poorman's DMC.
Anonymous No.724632653 [Report] >>724632679 >>724633085 >>724636336
>>724631935
>E33 is not le turn based akshually
This is the retarded copium SE fags actually believe
Anonymous No.724632679 [Report]
>>724632653
It's really funny how hard Expedition 33 absolutely mindbroke Remake shills.
Anonymous No.724632935 [Report] >>724633085 >>724636389
>>724630821
E33 is just "turn based" Souls. If the future of JRPGs are souls clones then lmao.
Anonymous No.724633049 [Report] >>724633536
>>724631473
Yes but that "they" doesn't refer to the same group of people, that is the problem. Squaresoft was a completely different entity than Square Enix ended up being. Despite some employee leftofers they carry a very different vision. Having the expectation that you'll ever return to Squaresoft is just setting yourself up for disappointment, but I suppose that's pretty much what the FF fanbase continues to do over the years.
Anonymous No.724633074 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
i like both franchises
Anonymous No.724633085 [Report] >>724633334
>>724632935
See>>724632653
Anonymous No.724633334 [Report] >>724633413 >>724633490 >>724633559
>>724633085
You have to actively time your dodges and parries, it's not turn based.

>muh super mario rpg
You don't completely negate all damage in those style of games, it's just a damage cut. The higher end fights are tuned around not taking any damage in E33.
Anonymous No.724633384 [Report]
>>724631954
You sound mad
Anonymous No.724633413 [Report] >>724633515
>>724633334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aviowEjJjgg&t=3562s
You can literally beat the entire game on hard without even touching the dodge or parry.
Anonymous No.724633418 [Report] >>724634229 >>724634483
>>724631954
>Most people can play both action and turn-based games
This is everyone. I'm pretty sure "turn trannies" who only play turn-based games only exist in your head. ADHD retards who can't sit still long enough to play a turn-based game definitely exist though.
Anonymous No.724633490 [Report] >>724633648
>>724633334
>You don't completely negate all damage in those style of games
You do in Mario & Luigi
Anonymous No.724633515 [Report] >>724634227
>>724633413
>just spend 51 minutes on a fight using a specific setup and specific gear
Yeah, your average player isn't stumbling into that.
Anonymous No.724633536 [Report]
>>724633049
no fucking shit the series is not going to have the exact same people working on it for nearly 40 years. the smart thing to do is appoint people into lead roles who try to carry on the series for what made it popular in the first place, not people who want to chase every other popular trend under the sun aside from the one that made it popular in the first place.
Anonymous No.724633559 [Report] >>724633648
>>724633334
That's not even true and even if it were true it still doesn't actually mean anything.
>You have to actively time your dodges and parries, it's not turn based.
This does not change the fact that it's turn based no matter how much you cope and seethe like an impotent little bitch cuck. TURN BASED. Means you take turns to do things. Which you do.
Anonymous No.724633648 [Report] >>724634224
>>724633490
Your blocks reduce the damage taken even in Brothership.

>>724633559
That's like saying Valkyria Chronicles is turn based. Technically it might be true but when you play it, it's really not what people mean when they talk about a turn based game.
Anonymous No.724633712 [Report] >>724633947
>>724631767
Where are my Breath of Fire, Chrono, Front Mission and Parasite Eve sequels?
Anonymous No.724633947 [Report]
>>724633712
BoF is from Capcom, silly.
Anonymous No.724634142 [Report] >>724634816
>>724627145 (OP)
>turd based fags shit all over Final Fantasy all day, because they are too brown to follow the faster paced action
>E33 developers come out and say that they actually like FF7 Remake and FF7 Rebirth
Yep, this truly is their 9/11 all right. lel
Anonymous No.724634224 [Report]
>>724633648
Blocks are for casuals who can't jump and hammer, both of which can negate all damage. Play the fucking game.
Anonymous No.724634227 [Report]
>>724633515
>you can't do that
>you can
>well no one will do that
>people were slapping on every damage and AP picto on a character after end game grinding to the point where they basically started one shotting every boss in the game to and the devs decided to add an enemy health modifier that goes up to x100 HP
Anonymous No.724634229 [Report] >>724634330 >>724639193
>>724633418
Cope, turn tranny.
Anonymous No.724634236 [Report]
From the people who brought you
>Pokemon is not a JRPG
comes a whole new level of retardation. This summer, prepare yourself for
>Valkyria Chronicles isn't turn-based
Anonymous No.724634306 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
>Final Fantasy, what used to be the single most popular and best selling JRPG IP of all time, grovels at the feet of a bunch of Frenchies after they were utterly BTFO by their baguette game
Hilarious
Anonymous No.724634330 [Report]
>>724634229
Ok. I'll cope by booting up Palworld.
Anonymous No.724634483 [Report] >>724634704 >>724634734 >>724634859
>>724627145 (OP)
>>724627254
>>724633418
Friendly reminder that turn-based fans won't give up until we have gone back to this.

Why? Because they hate the main activity in RPGs, which is combat.
Anonymous No.724634652 [Report]
>>724628889
Zoom out and they are up 43% this year
Anonymous No.724634703 [Report] >>724634795
>>724627145 (OP)
>nuSE forced to acknowledge the superiority of CE:33
TurnBASED wins again
>>724627254
Fpbp
Anonymous No.724634704 [Report] >>724635054
>>724634483
it's because they're women. women love rpgs and just want it to be a picture book where they can dress up the characters.
Anonymous No.724634718 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
I find it funny how a small french studio BTFO nips by just adding a parry mechanic to a 25 year outdated JRPG combat system.
Why are Japs so bad at innovation?
Anonymous No.724634734 [Report]
>>724634483
>almost eats shit to a random mob at the end
Kek
Anonymous No.724634792 [Report] >>724634950
>>724627145 (OP)
>people STILL going on about remaking FFVII
It was an okay game. Move the fuck on with your lives.
Anonymous No.724634795 [Report] >>724634996
>>724627254
>>724634703
Confirmed brown.
Anonymous No.724634816 [Report] >>724643645
>>724634142
If I wanted an action game I'll play an action game from a series that is leagues ahead of nuFF.
just like I don't want to play the recent GoW games because the design is so at odds with an action game they had to add a flashing indicator to show where you're being attacked from, otherwise the devs admitted it would basically be unplayable.
this shit is just pandering to people who didn't like the original games in the first place, but want to be fans of it anyway.
Anonymous No.724634859 [Report]
>>724634483
>0/825
>38/100
>7/45
Damn, you got your ass beaten anon. Maybe get better at the game eh?
Anonymous No.724634862 [Report] >>724634949 >>724635171 >>724636658
>>724628519
every numbered ff game sold more than E33 and if we are talking about leeching off dont forget that E33 is basically just a FFX copy
Anonymous No.724634876 [Report] >>724634969
>>724631654
ATB is dogshit
Anonymous No.724634897 [Report] >>724635052 >>724637561 >>724637732
How the tables have turned.
Anonymous No.724634949 [Report] >>724635020
>>724634862
>baguettes can make better FFs than the FF devs
Grim
Anonymous No.724634950 [Report]
>>724634792
Doesn't seems like SE can move on since they are still planning for part 3.
Anonymous No.724634957 [Report] >>724635016 >>724635114
Rebirth is a better game and its not even close
Anonymous No.724634969 [Report] >>724635153 >>724635207
>>724631654
>>724634876
atb isn't even turn based, the turns advance automatically
Anonymous No.724634996 [Report]
>>724634795
Only browns love actionslop, go play Ghost of YoDEI
Anonymous No.724635016 [Report] >>724635076
>>724634957
It needed one... no, two more alternate timelines to make the cut
Anonymous No.724635020 [Report] >>724635141 >>724635328 >>724635419
>>724634949
Rebirth shits on e33 it is a generation beyond it, its the best jrpg since DQ8
Anonymous No.724635052 [Report]
>>724634897
New FF is dogshit and Claire Obscure is ludokino, not hard to understand.
Anonymous No.724635054 [Report] >>724635176 >>724635194
>>724634704
Women don't really play RPGs.

Almost every every real-time hater and turn-based stan is almost always some shade of brown and almost never White or East Asian. Just check twitter.
Anonymous No.724635076 [Report] >>724635209
>>724635016
you being retarded to the point ff7 story is too complicated for you.. thats on you
Anonymous No.724635079 [Report]
>>724631654
Damn, you made them seethe
Anonymous No.724635097 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
you can tell the next FF is going to be MEGAKINO
Anonymous No.724635114 [Report]
>>724634957
lol.
Anonymous No.724635141 [Report]
>>724635020
lol
lmao even
Anonymous No.724635153 [Report] >>724635364
>>724634969
The only games that have good ATB are XIII, XIII-2 and X-2. All maligned by people who claim to love "turn based"
Anonymous No.724635171 [Report]
>>724634862
>every numbered ff game sold more than E33
>"Life Is Strange Double Exposure" was offset by a large loss, and in the third quarter of FY25, sales declined from the same period of the previous fiscal year. At present, the "FINAL FANTASY XVI" released in June is estimated at more than three and a half million units and Toyo Securities.
>https://kabutan.jp/news/marketnews/?b=n202503130535
E33 is like at 5 mil now
Anonymous No.724635176 [Report]
>>724635054
>real-time hater and turn-based stan
Prove to me these exist.
Anonymous No.724635194 [Report] >>724636514
>>724635054
>Women don't really play RPGs.
they took over tales and final fantasy. they're even playing crpgs like bg3 now(in the bear sex reveal, you can hear women in the audience cheering). women are the main consumers now, whites and east asians are playing turn based rpg gachas for the ecchi content.
Anonymous No.724635207 [Report] >>724635521
>>724634969
ATB with pause on action choice is a thing. Also it was just a visual representation of different characters having variable speed as opposed to the more traditional "everyone gets 1 action per turn and speed is just used to determine order" though it isn't necessary.
Anonymous No.724635209 [Report]
>>724635076
KH-tier fanfic ≠ FFVII

FFVII's story was perfectly understandable and ended in 1997
Anonymous No.724635293 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
With how FF7 Intergrade and Rebirth turned out, this might be a good thing if he feels inspired. With how boring and long winded the two games were, it really can't get worse. Not saying Expedition 33 was good by any means, but can't make FF7 part 3 than what it would have been intended to be. At least from my point of view.
Anonymous No.724635328 [Report]
>>724635020
This is bait
Anonymous No.724635346 [Report] >>724635587
>>724627145 (OP)
Why didn't this happen for Baldur's Gate 3 and METAPHOR?
Anonymous No.724635354 [Report] >>724635560
>>724627145 (OP)
>Meets up with the FF7R team
>Completely ignores and acts like the FF14 andd FF16 team don't exist
Anonymous No.724635364 [Report]
>>724635153
>XIII
>the game that was so bad everyone hated it on release including normalfags
Anonymous No.724635419 [Report] >>724635551 >>724635631 >>724642630 >>724643174
>>724635020
I wonder how many nominations E33 will receive. After all, it is only truly praised for its narrative.
Anonymous No.724635456 [Report] >>724635557 >>724635772
>/v/tard schizos spend the whole year making up schizo stories about how Squareenix and E33 devs hate each other
>this event where they mutually respect each other and talk about how they love each other's games comes out

lol how embarassing
Anonymous No.724635521 [Report] >>724635616
>>724635207
>use steal
>action queue pushes your command back an arbitrary number of turns
>animation lock let's the enemy stack multiple turns
>steal 5 minutes later
How can you possibly defend ATB when FFIX exists.
Anonymous No.724635551 [Report]
>>724635419
Not counting building faggotry and music, right?
Anonymous No.724635557 [Report] >>724635668
>>724635456
It's PR, you gorilla nigger. You wanted the E33 CEO to punch Nomura in the chin in front of the cameras? The fuck you think they're gonna act like?
Anonymous No.724635560 [Report] >>724639398 >>724644754 >>724647936
>>724635354
Only 4 million copies of FF16 has been sold, mostly because CU3 just cut too many RPG mechanics.

That said FF7R is king and not FF16.
Anonymous No.724635587 [Report]
>>724635346
Metaphor didn't sell enough to make SE take notice, and BG3 is a cRPG. Turn based, sure but virtually as far away as a jRPG as you can get without completely changing the core design.
Anonymous No.724635602 [Report] >>724635781 >>724635838
TOTAL RTWP DEATH
Anonymous No.724635616 [Report] >>724635702
>>724635521
I'm not defending anything one way or the other. I'm saying the difference is at best marginal and at worst completely superficial.
Anonymous No.724635631 [Report]
>>724635419
Best game, narrative and ost I think are possibilities
Anonymous No.724635668 [Report] >>724635835
>>724635557
You typically don't voluntarily arrange meetings and events with your rival where you promote each other's goods
I'm no expert on jap bizniz etiquette tho
Anonymous No.724635702 [Report] >>724635958
>>724635616
I used to think the same way until I replayed 9 and realized nearly every FF game would be better if it was just regular turn based. Except 12.
Anonymous No.724635772 [Report]
>>724635456
Yeah it's a rough day for them
Anonymous No.724635781 [Report]
>>724635602
Good, it was always shit. It was a compromise made due to lack of time, it died for a reason.
Anonymous No.724635835 [Report] >>724635932 >>724643996
>>724635668
A 30+ years old company acknowledging a newly founded one that made a better product than you is kinda shameful regardless of etiquette.
Anonymous No.724635838 [Report] >>724635895
>>724635602
I do hope you enjoy FF7R Part 3 and Square Enix's next RTWP game, friend.
Anonymous No.724635859 [Report] >>724635924 >>724635965 >>724642919 >>724646563
say what you will about Expedition 33 but I find it fucking hilarious that the facial animations in that game were recorded with literal phones and yet they look better than the facial animations in death stranding 2 even though kojima has a facial capture studio that took several million $ to build
Anonymous No.724635895 [Report]
>>724635838
RTWP chads are eatin' good. :))))
Anonymous No.724635924 [Report]
>>724635859
to be fair iphones has some of the best facial tracking cameras for consumers, i can see how using that data would work well in a video game.
Anonymous No.724635932 [Report] >>724637109
>>724635835
All of the Square Enix execs and devs are piggies for white cokku. Just look at Yoshida debasing himself for Asmongold and other WoW streamer cokku. Just filthy and shameful.
Anonymous No.724635958 [Report]
>>724635702
Sounds like a balance problem rather than an inherent flaw of the system.
Anonymous No.724635965 [Report] >>724636539
>>724635859
You are either blind or dumb.
Anonymous No.724635969 [Report] >>724636037
There are anons on this board that to this day will tell you with a straight face E33 is a FOTM game.
Anonymous No.724636037 [Report] >>724636137
>>724635969
There's an anon telling people E33 isn't turn based. /v/ isn't very bright anymore
Anonymous No.724636087 [Report] >>724636204 >>724636432
FF7R is total dogshit for kingdom hearts obsessed zillenial autists and square enix hasn't been able to develop a fun game since the PS2 or write a good story since the PS1.
Anonymous No.724636137 [Report] >>724636332 >>724637992
>>724636037
It is turn-based... very similar to Final Fantasy XIII, but with Atlus style menus.
Anonymous No.724636184 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
HamaGODchi and Sandfall saving JRPGs
Anonymous No.724636204 [Report]
>>724636087
Calm down, boomer.
Anonymous No.724636251 [Report]
>>724629008
Playstation is based in California retard
Anonymous No.724636317 [Report]
>>724627685
I dunno man, if I'm a game dev and my modern turn based rpg gets enough recognition to be collabing with FFVII I would be over the fucking moon.
Anonymous No.724636332 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
>>724636137
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if SE makes a AA title in the mold of Final Fantasy XIII and Persona 5 with a misery porn narrative. Easy money for low effort.
Anonymous No.724636336 [Report] >>724636389
>>724632653
You can actually beat the game in expert without doing any dodge/parry. And before you say "but you're using cheesy builds", no you don't even need that (except for the few "gimmicks" fights & superbosses that actually require you to parry, it's like 3-4 enemies total).
But you don't know because you didn't play the game.
Anonymous No.724636382 [Report]
>>724628617
>Aryan Neitzchie Gustav and his hot sis
I need to get off consol.
Anonymous No.724636387 [Report] >>724636563 >>724636770
>>724627145 (OP)
>refuses to make games in the old, beloved FF Style anymore
>new game comes out that gets likened to older FF games
>latches onto its success and becomes "deeply inspired"
motherfucker, how are you so dense that you weren't already inspired by the games YOUR COMPANY MADE?
Anonymous No.724636389 [Report]
>>724636336
Meant for >>724631935 & >>724632935 oops.
Anonymous No.724636391 [Report] >>724636565
>>724629474
>forces internationally the slogan "Never forget"
>forgotten
Anonymous No.724636432 [Report] >>724636956
>>724636087
Acktually FF7 is 99% AAA corridor and pointless filler simulator and 1% King Hearts nonsense
Which is even worse
Anonymous No.724636478 [Report] >>724636708
>>724627145 (OP)
>FFXVII will be parry slop
i mean, it can't get worse than corridor slop, MMO slop, 1 button boyband slop and budget DMC slop but man.
atleast E33 was good
Anonymous No.724636514 [Report] >>724638883
>>724635194
>Women took over rpgs! I heard them in an audience once!
Anonymous No.724636539 [Report] >>724642919
>>724635965
Doesn't change the fact that ds2 is massively outperformed in the cost effective way, which makes you retarded to even try to contradict.
Anonymous No.724636563 [Report] >>724636646
>>724636387
>implying this guy gets to decide what genre they're creating
Anonymous No.724636565 [Report]
>>724636391
It's forgotten because the jokes and memes got stale
Anonymous No.724636646 [Report]
>>724636563
My criticism applies to someone in the hierarchy, even if it's not him
Anonymous No.724636658 [Report]
>>724634862
E33 outsold Rebirth and FFXVI
Anonymous No.724636708 [Report]
>>724636478
desu FF17 would've ended up being parry slop with or without expedition 33's existence.
parries are THE contemporary shallow game mechanic that everyone thinks is skillful
Anonymous No.724636770 [Report] >>724637191
>>724636387
This pic is their actual problem. This is what they are up against. E33 is nothing, at 5m it sold a fraction of a fraction of the above. Its a very annoying thorn in their side their core fans love. Still, only FF14 and gacha games matter so E33 is just this annoying topic they would ignore if they could.
Anonymous No.724636956 [Report] >>724637110
>>724636432
>FF7 is 99% AAA corridor and pointless filler simulator
Kingdom Hearts is the same thing but with a generally lower budget
Anonymous No.724637109 [Report]
>>724635932
Asmon dono PUURIZU!!! WHITE COKKU PUURIZE!!! WATASHI WA RIDDURU PIGGY FOR WHITE COKKU!!! PUURIZU ASMON DONO DONT REAVE ME!!
Anonymous No.724637110 [Report]
>>724636956
Nah Kingdom Hearts actually has good levels and fun characters in them
Anonymous No.724637191 [Report] >>724637327 >>724637404 >>724638138
>>724636770
Maybe they could compete with those other genres by releasing a game that doesn't suck and isn't written by retards with juvenile tastes. Like look at Nier Automata, that game was mediocre but it still kicked the shit out of everything square themselves made in the past 20 years and was a huge cultural phenomena.
Anonymous No.724637327 [Report]
>>724637191
I think SE doesn't feel ready to turn FF into a franchise sold through round butts
Anonymous No.724637404 [Report]
>>724637191
>Maybe they could compete with those other genres by releasing a game that doesn't suck
>Fifa
>CoD
>Genshin fucking impact
Anonymous No.724637461 [Report] >>724637539 >>724637575 >>724638639
if you still play turn based games in 2025 you should be killed
Anonymous No.724637539 [Report]
>>724637461
You should have been aborted.
Anonymous No.724637561 [Report]
>>724634897
>one is shit and people dont like it
>one is great and people love it
woah..................... mind = BLOWN!
Anonymous No.724637575 [Report]
>>724637461
>says the Oshi No Ko poster
Anonymous No.724637732 [Report]
>>724634897
FF16 sold well and from what I understand the skilled devs are all working on FF14.
Anonymous No.724637847 [Report] >>724638563
>>724627145 (OP)
SE kneeling to the inheritors of the Final Fantasy soul, holy based.
Anonymous No.724637992 [Report] >>724638251
>>724636137
>very similar to Final Fantasy XIII
what's with people repeating this? FFXIII was turn based but had stance switching for everyone and an auto battler mode built in.
Anonymous No.724638138 [Report]
>>724637191
no one is looking to FF for these types of games, aside from people who don't play the series which is why it will fail every time.
this is not difficult to understand.
Anonymous No.724638251 [Report] >>724638524 >>724638565
>>724637992
FFXIII didn't have auto-battler. The meat of the game is strategic role switching to rapidly build and then stabilize stagger gauge, as well as reset ATB. The "auto" command just automatically chose actions. It was still up to you to time paradigm shifts and monitor stagger.
Anonymous No.724638392 [Report] >>724638440
Golf is turn based
Anonymous No.724638440 [Report]
>>724638392
what the fuck
Anonymous No.724638496 [Report] >>724638953 >>724639268 >>724646978
ITT:
Anonymous No.724638524 [Report]
>>724638251
>FFXIII didn't have auto-battler.
>The "auto" command just automatically chose actions.
this is why XIIIfags get laughed at.
Anonymous No.724638545 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
So, will SMT and Persona have shit like "press a button at the right time to block" and mini-games for attacks? That's not good.
Anonymous No.724638563 [Report]
>>724637847
This is the saddest part of the image really.
ANY other time FF team would have told them to fuck off or been like 'yeah its cool we inspired them', but they genuinely can't now. They're desperate.
Anonymous No.724638565 [Report]
>>724638251
Auto-battle is literally the default command in ff13.
Anonymous No.724638639 [Report]
>>724637461
Correct.
Anonymous No.724638648 [Report]
If chess was turn-based but each time a piece tries to swallow another, the player has to play Guitar Hero and if they can play the whole song the opponent's move gets invalidated and they lose a turn, nobody would be calling this version of chess turn-based.
Anonymous No.724638883 [Report]
>>724636514
To be fair, there's also actual fags mixed in.
Anonymous No.724638953 [Report]
>>724638496
if you played the game, it explored woke themes(and the protagonist is brown) so that's journos boosting it because of ideology. anything too high is a red flag for that reason, deathloop being the ultimate example.

metaphor is a good game but it's an 8.
Anonymous No.724639193 [Report]
>>724634229
gay because you still have to walk in a turnbased game
Anonymous No.724639268 [Report] >>724640243
>>724638496
>using a turn-based game that sold badly to shit all over FF7R chads
Least retarded turn troon.
Anonymous No.724639289 [Report] >>724640243
>>724627254
FPBP
Anonymous No.724639398 [Report] >>724639715
>>724635560
FF16 is such a missed opportunity, massive potential, completely lost because the team making the game or the guys at the very top at least were MMO devs with MMO mind set. Fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.724639715 [Report] >>724639851
>>724639398
It's a bretty gud game if you like MMOs to be fair. The Odin fight is still a fucking letdown though.
Anonymous No.724639851 [Report]
>>724639715
I was just so disappointed with the side quest design, the world design and the lacking variety in exploration and lack of a party. It really didn't have that FF game flavour feel to it.
Anonymous No.724639893 [Report] >>724658890
>>724627618
More like real time games are pure muscle memory and require zero neurons
Anonymous No.724639927 [Report] >>724640161 >>724640451 >>724640559
Can somebody explain why the image makes some people mad and tell me who its making mad? Why would people be upset over this? Dev made game. New dev made game and said old dev inspired them. Now both devs get along. This for some reason enrages some people? Why? Who?
Anonymous No.724639974 [Report]
Square needs to understand that just adding flashy action combat without any real RPG depth doesn't make a game good. But at the same time, slapping turn based combat on an AAA game doesn't automatically make it a great RPG either. They've got to find that the perfect balance between the two. Both E33 and Rebirth are the closest thing to getting that balance right.
Anonymous No.724640161 [Report]
>>724639927
These people are too removed from reality to have any logic.
Anonymous No.724640243 [Report]
>>724639268
>>724639289
I like SMT & Persona.
I hated Metaphors summons.
They all looked like generic fodder summons you'd see in some shitty gacha.
Unlike SMT/Persona I just didnt feel any dopamine rushes of "I wonder what the next tier persona will have/I want to play just a little more to unlock it!" that I had with Atlus's other games.
Music was nice though.
Anonymous No.724640451 [Report]
>>724639927
this is just what happens to people with the obsessiveness to play MMOs who are also too unhinged to be able to function alongside others so they get into a single player RPG instead and when it ends and they have nothing left to obsess over besides the community this is what you get
Anonymous No.724640559 [Report]
>>724639927
A schizo (and his small entourage) who makes his entire unlife revolve around a franchise that has never been good and had only four turn based out of sixteen mainlines tries to convince people that some nepobaby somehow saved Final Fantasy and that the industry circlejerk will mean future Final Fantasy will RETVRN TO FORM with turn based games and sell 10 gorillion again.
Cue nobody buying the next game again because Final Fantasy is a zombie IP that doesn't sell because new generations haven't been indoctrinated like millennials to like a shitty franchise, turn based or not.
Anonymous No.724640750 [Report] >>724641387
Cant we all just appreciate different good vidyas being done instead of everything being the same? E33 is very ffish but turn based. Ff7 remake has great combat and I think it works better in the setting. Neither is pure turn based but both has menus to select things mid fight. I'm morr concerned about everything else being shit on FF and literal whos doing a better Ff than SE even tho they already had the recipe (ff7)
Anonymous No.724641387 [Report]
>>724640750
If Square enix still made good games instead of paltry attempts at "improving" their core games, mediocre remakes of older better games and an absolutely shitty try at creating a new ip, we wouldn't need to have this conversation.
Anonymous No.724642630 [Report]
>>724635419
And the music. And world design. And enemy design. Character performances. It’s very telling to see somebody post this but not how many it actually won.
Anonymous No.724642919 [Report]
>>724635859
>>724636539
E33's lip movements don't even match the voices in any language. It definitely doesn't look good. It looks good ENOUGH, for a medium budget game.
Anonymous No.724643069 [Report]
>>724627254
/thread
Anonymous No.724643174 [Report]
>>724635419
>7 nominations for rebirth
>look inside
>0 wns
Anonymous No.724643210 [Report]
>>724630821
Master gif
Anonymous No.724643253 [Report] >>724643580 >>724643649 >>724644107 >>724646496
>>724627145 (OP)
Tired of people trying to pit games against each other all the time
I liked both
Anonymous No.724643328 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
They cant keep snubbing Yoshi-P like this
Anonymous No.724643559 [Report]
>>724631654
Squareenix's flagship IP is dragon quest, FF was already dead when they merged
Anonymous No.724643580 [Report] >>724643771 >>724643817
>>724643253
If you evaluate the games completely in a vacuum, sure. The problem is the veteran studio and basically the reference for the genre getting bent over by the newcomers that make a game that's not even that exceptional in the grand scheme of things.
Anonymous No.724643587 [Report]
>>724627254
Onions hands wrote this.
Anonymous No.724643645 [Report]
>>724634816
I hate nu GOW too. That's why I'm happy that chuds were able to turn nuKratos into a basedboy cuck through memetic warfare.
Anonymous No.724643649 [Report]
>>724643253
Anti FF-schizos can’t help themselves, they’ll just find a new game to do it with
Anonymous No.724643771 [Report]
>>724643580
I meant so more in the tone
Comparing games is fine. Critiquing how one does things better than another is fine.
Its more the hyper-exaggeration thats annoying
Like the steam chart comparisons with "NO NO"
And such
Like every game franchise is a team and you must treat other franchises as something evil to be killed and mocked
Anonymous No.724643817 [Report]
>>724643580
That veteran studio hasn't existed since the early 2000s, get real
Anonymous No.724643996 [Report]
>>724635835
I think the higher ups in square enix has a self humiliation fetish. Just look at how they're bending the knee for the E33 team. It's one thing to have another company make better games than you. But to bend the knee like this... the devs of square enix must be feeling quite humiliated don't you think?
Anonymous No.724644107 [Report] >>724644180 >>724644229 >>724644947 >>724644979 >>724661771
>>724643253
>game comes out
>it it successful
>"FINAL FANTASY SUCKS"
Literally FF haters every single day. kek

It will get much, much worse after Part 3 is announced, because they are complete schizos.
Anonymous No.724644180 [Report]
>>724644107
Hey, don't post my onahole here, that's rude.
Anonymous No.724644229 [Report]
>>724644107
autism creature
Anonymous No.724644441 [Report] >>724644959
Daily reminder that the reason why squeenix is eating shit is not because of turn based anything, it's because they mangled FF7.
Anonymous No.724644568 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
>all these RPG studios in the industry both western and eastern
>they collab with FF7R
what did they mean by this?
Anonymous No.724644754 [Report] >>724645605
>>724635560
>Only 4 million copies of FF16 has been sold
Rebirth sold under 2M btw
Anonymous No.724644795 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
suddenly became best friend lol does he actually know expedition creator?
Anonymous No.724644947 [Report]
>>724644107
>Rebirth
>successful
Nice headcanon.
Anonymous No.724644959 [Report] >>724659078
>>724644441
Imo SE trying to move away from turn based is a symptom of their production leadership being completely out of ideas and coherent design because they completely lack knowledge of the genre they are working on. The combat in e33 is stuff that already existed decades ago, and apparently producters at SE weren't aware of that.
Anonymous No.724644979 [Report] >>724645818
>>724644107
>it it successful
>according to president Takashi Kiryu, who said back in May: "In the HD Games sub-segment, we released multiple new titles, including major titles such as Final Fantasy 16 and Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, but profits unfortunately did not meet our expectations."
>uwu is that yuffers?! 10/10!
Anonymous No.724645605 [Report] >>724645739 >>724646001 >>724646283
>>724644754
>Rebirth outsold DD2, Tekken, Astrobot on PS5
>exceeded expectations on PC
Yeah it's probably past 4 million by now
Anonymous No.724645739 [Report]
>>724645605
>probably
LMAO
Anonymous No.724645818 [Report] >>724648886
>>724644979
Cry harder, little turnpiggu.
Anonymous No.724646001 [Report] >>724646863
>>724645605
The meltdown will be glorious when SE announces that the Remake Trilogy has sold 20 million units.
Anonymous No.724646153 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
square enix literally never heard of this guys until this year. this is just some cheap PR like when yoshida does live letters in person.
Anonymous No.724646171 [Report]
Anonymous No.724646283 [Report] >>724646574
>>724645605
Rebirth has long legs, so more like 5 million.
Anonymous No.724646496 [Report]
>>724643253
Tendies never got over ff7 on PS1. The moment FF recovers (if it does) they will go back hiding or pretend they were always FF supporters
Anonymous No.724646563 [Report] >>724647465
>>724635859
AAA budgets are just bloated, especially with FF. It's no surprise Kojima praised the efficiency of the E33 team.
Anonymous No.724646574 [Report] >>724646880
>>724646283
>least delusional FF7 fan
Anonymous No.724646863 [Report]
>>724646001
Screencapbait post
Anonymous No.724646880 [Report] >>724647028 >>724647264
>>724646574
>least delusional FF7 hater
Anonymous No.724646965 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
Let's hope game devs learn from expedition 33 and start making stories and games for adults. It's fine that there are games for children of course but please a few more games for people who want adult stories.
Anonymous No.724646978 [Report] >>724647189
>>724638496
Why were atlusfags so afraid to compete with ff in the past
Anonymous No.724647028 [Report] >>724648817
>>724646880
You know Switch 2 versions of third parties games are selling really bad right? Switch 2 owners aren't buying anything anything except Bananza and Mario Kart, Cyberpunk is already on sale.
Anonymous No.724647189 [Report]
>>724646978
Kek
Anonymous No.724647264 [Report]
>>724646880
>key card
Dead on arrival.
Anonymous No.724647465 [Report] >>724650185
>>724646563
>$300 million (2023)
Rebirth came out in 2024
Anonymous No.724647936 [Report]
>>724635560
>Only 4 million copies of FF16
And that's 4 million too many, desu, played it and half the amount of time I spent at it was to look at fucking cinematics.
The first 4 hours of game are literally like 3 hours of cinematics and an hour of gameplay.
>That said FF7R is king
Remake is better than 16, but redditbirth has the same crippling issues than 16.
Anonymous No.724648194 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
I simply prefer slower, more tactical gameplay. I want combat where smart planning and strategy is what decided a fight, not reaction time. It’s sad to see companies buy into the action slop meme, but I don’t run them. I simply do my job as a consumer and don’t buy their product. Simple as.
Anonymous No.724648631 [Report] >>724649178
>>724627145 (OP)
>turn-based
Imagine enjoying games where 99% of them have combat that's even less complex than Wizardry (1980)
How the fuck is having a battle map in RPGs too hard 45 years later fucking lmao
Anonymous No.724648817 [Report] >>724650029
>>724647028
>Source: my anus
Anonymous No.724648886 [Report]
>>724645818
woah they're confirming they're not going to leave P3 dead in the water? amazing!
Anonymous No.724649178 [Report] >>724649753
>>724648631
>imagine enjoying a franchise that was TB for decades
>such a huge fan btw!
Anonymous No.724649753 [Report] >>724649946 >>724649983
>>724649178
Well, I'm a millennial and I already played FF on the NES as a young kid in the late 1980s.

That said, Final Fantasy VII Remake and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth are the best games in the entire franchise IMO. They are true masterpieces and I can hardly wait to play Part 3!
Anonymous No.724649876 [Report]
>>724627254
FPBP
Anonymous No.724649946 [Report]
>>724649753
I prefer classic FF, Ivalice, and the Ivalice adjacent games like the 10/10 FFXVI.
Anonymous No.724649983 [Report]
>>724649753
damn, a true gamer...
Anonymous No.724650029 [Report]
>>724648817
>Nintendo Switch
Retard
Anonymous No.724650109 [Report] >>724652554
>>724627145 (OP)
>real time
>troon based
both are irrelevant, picrel has ushered in the metroidvania renaissance. 2D is the future again
Anonymous No.724650185 [Report] >>724650905 >>724659925
>>724647465
Rebirth is a low budget spinoff.
FFXVI was 2023.
Anonymous No.724650905 [Report] >>724651009
>>724650185
Rebirth reuses a ton of Remake assets. The production costs of Rebirth were certainly even lower than that of Remake for that reason alone.
Anonymous No.724651009 [Report]
>>724650905
Probably similar to Remake's budget. What they saved on assets they pumped into minigames and Ubisoft towers.
Anonymous No.724651179 [Report] >>724651331
>>724627145 (OP)
Babe wake up, two shitty games are working together
Anonymous No.724651331 [Report]
>>724651179
Clair obscur is kino and you're a tasteless retard
Anonymous No.724651586 [Report] >>724652064 >>724653207
>>724627145 (OP)
It's weird, it feels like an old has-been trying to ride on the new guy's success give him back his relevancy and the new guy allows it because he was a fan of the old guy.
Anonymous No.724652064 [Report] >>724653207
>>724651586
based.
there must be a name for that.
Anonymous No.724652554 [Report]
>>724650109
Silksong is real time game though.
Anonymous No.724653207 [Report]
>>724651586
>>724652064
Riding the Coattails for an attempted revival.
Anonymous No.724655787 [Report]
>>724628903
Kinda wild that capcom is that low with 3 big money makes like resident evil, mh and sf
Anonymous No.724657217 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
Recover from what exactly? How is sqnx kneeling before e33 anything but the final nail in the coffin?
Anonymous No.724657718 [Report]
>>724627145 (OP)
There hasn't been a good FF in over 20 years and E33 looks like vomit so I don't understand why anyone played it or how it could be good.
Anonymous No.724657980 [Report] >>724658149 >>724658649
FF0 and FF16 are the future of the series. Remaking the old ones goes against the spirit of FF, and I'm gonna assume none of the devs on 7R were there when they made FF7.
Anonymous No.724658149 [Report]
>>724657980
Who’s gonna tell him?
Anonymous No.724658649 [Report]
>>724657980
>I'm gonna assume none of the devs on 7R were there when they made FF7.
Anonymous No.724658731 [Report]
All the people crying that FF is bending the knee in shame to E33 are retards that never made something in their life. If you really love something and someone else does a great version of that idea then it should be inspiring and praise. Jealousy, bitterness and envy are for the poor emotionally minded no doers

sugma
Anonymous No.724658810 [Report] >>724661384
>>724627254
FF13's combat was perfect and I'll never forgive Square for ditching it for hack and slash combat.
Anonymous No.724658890 [Report] >>724659932
>>724639893
yes im sure choosing the attack option a million times and then choosing the block option when the big bad does his 2-turn charge up attack is the epitome of gaming
Anonymous No.724659078 [Report]
>>724644959
Square Enix's idea of good modern TBB is Octopath Traveler, but that might change.
Anonymous No.724659925 [Report]
>>724650185
>59 million
Check that "source" you posted. That number was pulled out of his ass by some redditor
Anonymous No.724659932 [Report]
>>724658890
It's not, which is why I play Underrail and not this slop
Anonymous No.724661384 [Report]
>>724658810
Lightning Returns bombed after years of diminishing returns. You all scream now, but it is your own fault that SE ditched turn-based combat.
Anonymous No.724661771 [Report]
>>724644107
her arms feel like they're 6 inches longer than they should be.