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Gotcha arguments doesn't really work when discussing something even semi-seriously.
>We do good deeds because we were rewarded with attention for doing them and punished with scolding for not doing them
That is basic human behavior and raising your children. However, are you taught to only help others if you get something out of it?
The thing is, that most civilizations, and even tribes, help each other because it is just human thing to do. Some people are taught by either their family or society and groups at large that helping others should be only done if you get something out of it. See this thread and many of the replies. For example the anon insisting I'm a "foid" for even suggesting the fact one can help another without getting something out of it.
The selfish argument doesn't work either, that is something I have gone through myself and with many people. It is trying to turn emotion and empathy into logic which is just a self-destructing spiral. That is why you cannot logic yourself out of depression for example by saying "just be happy so you feel better".
Calling other people selfish for doing good things is just showing your own perspective on empathy. It seems like you are just completely unable to accept that some people just likes doing good, and that they must have some ulterior motive
Because you wouldn't do it.
It is very limited perspective on world and other people as you view other people's wants and needs and motivations through your own logic. Like the fact you insist that "you just do good things because you were taught so".
I bet quite many people were taught to do good things and punished for doing bad things, but some people still do bad things and rarely do good things.
Why? With your logic, if they are selfish they would help others. So are they less selfish if they don't? See a kid that has lost their wallet. Not helping said kid is less selfish than helping them?
Unless you get rewarded, then it is less selfish?
