Thread 724708208

>modern game has a "minimalistic" UI with a stock white font and black/white translucent rectangles
Instant into the trash.

UIs used to be unique, cool and fun. Having as much iconic gusto to them as the game itself, adding to the atmosphere and the overall experience. You can instantly identify so many games just by their UI elements. Nowadays all UIs are literally interchangeable. It seems they're trying to make games as bland and forgettable as possible even down to the most basic elements.

Welcome to being a fan of architecture circa 500 years ago. We literally cannot build structures like previous generations. We cannot figure it out. Its lost technology. Now its come to gaming.

>>724708363
Do people honestly think we're ever going to explore space with how stupid and complacent people have gotten?

>>724708621
Wdym my UI/UX experience isn't enough to get me a spot on the Mars expedition? Have you seen my LinkedIn profile? My bluesky posts?? MY X(formerly twitter) HISTORY??!

You get to kill off a whole team dedicated to UX/UI design by streamlining everything, that's very good for the bottom line.

And the bottom line is more important than anything, even your life.

>>724708208 (OP)
Because back then you only had to think about making an UI for one resolution that was going to be used by 99% of the playerbase
Nowadays you have to make a flexible UI that can adapt to 50 different resolutions and has to work within the confines of UE5 or whatever engine you're using

>>724709417
There's only one resolution now, also all consoles are the same now

>>724709942
>There's only one resolution now
???
Do you believe that 1080 and 4k are the same resolution?

>>724710141
You are a retard.

>>724710269
Explain

UI became UX

>>724709417
This is solved by making your UI elements out of scalable vectors and rendering them in real time, not making them all bland minimalist corposlop.

omg its the autist who has spent 5+ years crying about ui and legit thinks arbitrary graphics disguising ui screens is better for conveying information than simple layouts
actual mental retardation

>>724710802
Dumb zoomer.

>>724708208 (OP)
who gives a shit about the UI of all things, you mentally ill incel?

>>724710885
already replied to you >>724710885

>>724708208 (OP)
TRVKE. This filters the zoomoids.

>>724711002
already replied to you >>724710885

>>724708208 (OP)
I strongly urge you to play High fleet.
>>724708363
You too.
https://youtu.be/eGnuZTi6hzY?si=ILffIrt0rl62kxZx
>>724710434
I believe their point was that they're both 16:9 aspect ratio

>>724711530
Resolution and aspect ratio are different things tho
Also there are multiple aspect ratios used nowadays

>>724708208 (OP)
here's the real reason: universality
its hard to design those top UIs while also keeping 100 different resolutions in mind

>>724708208 (OP)
A small studio working on a small project with minimal publisher interference can make a coherent UI that can survive multiple shifts in development.
A large studio working on a seemingly large actually small, just very poorly developed and wasting most of its effort on petty office politics project with maximal publisher interference has to make all of its UI at the last minute and frequently needs to toss most of its work.

Skeumorphic or diegetic UI is far beyond the planning capabilities of most major studios.
>>724711530
>I believe their point was that they're both 16:9 aspect ratio
There's your problem, 4:3 is the only aspect ratio worth considering for UI and everything else is just a meme resolution.

>>724708208 (OP)
Can some of y’all post some old school UI’s you love? I want to learn to create some

corporations are psychopathic by nature

>>724708208 (OP)
I can't wait for brazil and europe to get nuked, im tired of dogshit threads

Some games still have fun UIs, it's just that soulless corporate retreads don't naturally benefit from aesthetic decisions that can't be sold to low-IQ shareholders.

>>724712786
kys zoomers

>>724711272
>cuckllenials who grew up on brown and bloom slop blaming zoomerGODs for shit they created

i don't care about minimalism but if they're going for that route i wish they would remove all the bloat like tutorials, tips, the gay x sign when you hit bullets, stuff that tells you you can do QTE here, everything that isn't integral to the gameplay.

new game UI's are like iphones, minimalistic and functionalist only on the surface but bloated on the inside, minimalism is just an aesthetic to them

>>724708208 (OP)
This makes zoomers seethe.

>>724713212
It's not even an aesthetic, it's just a crutch for poor management.
A bad tutorial or overbearing tips also get added due to poor management, so they don't get excised by the minimalism.
Everything in modern games is an afterthought at best.

Games with forced online now use UI to signal their embedded bitminer to go full throttle because the player won't notice.

>>724708208 (OP)
Yeah.

the thing I hate most about modern ui is how they murdered scroll bars. tons of websites and programs have made them so minimal that you only have like 4 pixels to click on and lists are designed with infinite scroll shit so if you try to drag the bar back to a certain point it's basically impossible. why did technology become so fucking gay when everything was promising 20 years ago?

BIG

>>724708208 (OP)
UI changed the way it did because the old guys that were doing things intuitively got replaced with a college managerial class that all took the same philosophy courses and game design courses so everything has to be streamlined and soulless so that it can maximize appeal to people that wouldn't be the game anyway.
Some streamlined diamond UI games actually do it REALLY well though, like Assassin's Creed 2 but it was downhill after that

>>724712884
Now DMC5 was pretty good on that end. Still simplified and streamlined from 4 but it had it's own unique modern aesthetic that's interesting enough and cool, unfortunately not every game handles it as well

>>724708208 (OP)
You need an actual artist to do the old one on top. The new one at the bottom can literally be done by a jeet, or an AI - just a bunch of boxes.

I will never ever buy a game with UI like this.

everything needs to be as generic and clean as possible

>>724709417
That's a non-issue. You just make all your UI assets for 4K then downscale. You also make sure that the spacing adapts to different aspect ratios correctly and presto.
For ultrawides, a full screen inventory screen like in the OP, you can simply add artwork on the sides that isn't displayed at all for 16:9. And you can add art above and below for 4:3. It's not that much work, you literally only need one basic image.

>>724713212
Tutorials are necessary because there's no more manuals anymore.

>>724710434
it's one aspect ratio. You can make a game for 4K and then shrink it to 1080p.

>>724718339
That's fine though because it fits the game's aesthetic

>>724718928
No, its not fine. It's objectively bad.

>>724718648
This sadly
It explained everything from the controls, the lore, the characters, the game mechanics and especially what everything on the different menus did.

>>724719046
And yet it's objectively good in wipeout

>>724718648
Tutorials should be separate from the main game, but honestly, it isn't like there aren't many non-obvious mechanics in most games once you play around with them a little bit.

das ryet

hmm

>>724708621
I think we will, it's just that that's not going to happen until natural selection occurs and normalfaggot retards are filtered out of the educational institutions where they don't belong and those places become a haven for the intelligent portion of society once more.

With college getting more and more expensive and the average normalfag getting less and less out of that experience in addition to the student debt crisis, it will happen sooner than later.

They are deliberately designed to be very easy to read and understand for normgroid retards, plus resemble phone interfaces to make them feel more familiar and establish a positive emotional connection to it off the bat. It's very intentional.

Older games (and indie games to an extent) largely had the UI designed by the artists.

>>724718648
Depends on how complex the game is, if you don't instinctively try out the controls and combinations of them when starting a new game you aren't human.

RTFM is unfortunately a dead concept these days though, even with retro games where you are intended to read them I constantly see retards getting confused and annoyed by shit clearly explained in them. There seems to be a lot of hostility towards the idea in general that I just can't relate to, manuals are fucking COOL and enjoyable to read.
>DUDE WHAT THE FUCK WHY CANT HARRY HIT ANYTHING I KEEP SHOOTING AND HE KEEPS MISSING

>>724711002
>>724710802
>oh yes please put in less effort and charge me more!!!

>>724722284
>natural selection
Does not select for space travel. Only artificial selection can do that. On average natural selection tends towards pseudomatriarchal shitholes like africa

>>724722565
>want to read some old game manual
>the scans are absolute garbage
It hurts

>>724708208 (OP)
Nintendo is the worst offender here. Their UIs used to be unique and interesting, but after BotW, it's like they were hit with the retard stick. Not only did that game's UI look boring as sin compared to previous Zeldas, but every goddamn Nintendo game since then, in every franchise and genre, copied BotW's UI, down to the fucking fonts. It all turned into soulless minimalism, even though you'd think Nintendo of all companies would try to be different and fun because their main audience is families with kids. It's fucking tragic.

>>724708208 (OP)
Tell that to the retards who cry "hurr durr there's too much shit on the screen taking up too much space!!!1!"

FUCK WHINING ABOUT AESTHETICS, THE WORLD, AND TRENDS YOU DON’T LIKE. TELL ME WHAT UI YOU LOVE, EVEN IF IT’S BASIC. TALES OF SYMPHONIA FILLS ME WITH JOY.

>>724708208 (OP)
we deserve this. nobody gatekept hard enough and now the internet is infested with subhuman animals who will genuinely defend the bottom row of that pic

>>724711272
>This filters cucklennial game devs
FTFY

everything has to be designed for every platform (including PC) meaning you can't have specialized assets and UI unless you want to develop 100 different versions of it for every res.
We literally see this INCESSANTLY with ui bitching when retards emulate stuff.

>>724708208 (OP)
its all streamlined to appeal to 'everyone' and got simplified beyond belief
western business and market analysts determined that draining out any semblance of personality and sleek UI design in video games made it possible for the lowest common denominators to grasp how to navigate through them
thats why everything is tile based uninspired mobile UI shit without a hint of individuality
at least in AAA
they have a huge ass problem in that area

>>724724420
Meanwhile they have no trouble making 2 hours of pre rendered CGI work on those imaginary every resolutions

>>724708208 (OP)
i've always hated those garish shitty oversized gaudy UI. They can still look that bad even with the minimalism for interoperability, ultimately it comes down to good visual direction regardless of if the UI is the skeuomorphic older style or the minimalistic newer style.
>>724724057
i love you, anon :3

>>724726372
dumb zoomer

REmake, RE0 and RE4 all had the same guy behind the UI and it shows.

>>724708208 (OP)
only subhuman zoomers can possibly like and defend nu-UI

>>724708363
It's [current year] and people haven't wrapped their head around usury and its pet sophists -- "lost technology" encompasses being an agentic, sentient human being.

Globohomo's origin story:
>once upon a time the world has been peaceful and harmonious, then came along a snakeoil merchant
>the snakeoil merchant has sent ahead an ostensibly filthy-rich bait to a village
>the bait very publically flaunted his shinies and pitched worthless magic paper to the villagers
>the villagers sought out the snakeoil merchant, willing to trade their everything for worhless magic paper
>a week later, after realizing that its worthless magic paper they couldn't use anywhere else, they returned to the merchant to trade it back
>the snakeoil merchant told them that he would be a fool to trade back all the resources for the original prices, as there are so few resources in comparison to the volumes of worthless magic paper now in circulation
>villagers involved legal authority which told them to fuck off, because the trades were legal -- the merchant didn't lie, the bait did and the villagers didn't bother asking the merchant or reading the fineprint
>the snakeoil merchant showed "mercy" and allowed the villagers to burrow the resources against a fee and interest paid with the worthless magic paper
>[fast forward] the village is bankrupt and indebted, everyone's at each other throat having scammed each other out of their worthless magic paper to pay their own fees
>the merchant once again showed "mercy" and offered them a deal: if they assume the role of the bait and spread the good word of the worthless magic paper in other villages they'll be allowed to stay in their homes and toil their fields
>[fast forward] the merchant is now considered the sovereign, writing the laws and ruling over terminally indebted and blackmailed royality and common folk alike, all the while canonizing the most prolific baits as prophets and whatnot
>[fast forward] (You)'re here.

>>724726574
give me your credit card information

>>724708208 (OP)
TRVKE

>>724708208 (OP)
SOVL vs soulless

>>724708208 (OP)
I don't think we will ever see a return back.

>>724710141
Yes, they are the "same."
For around two decades now, nearly all HUDs have been designed to be scalable. They aren't made for a particular resolution, but made very large or in a lossless scalable format.
Compared to old fit-for-scale HUDs, these high resolution/vector HUDs are far more demanding on system resources (not just relative to the fancier old graphics, but you could disable the HUD in some of these games and see a notable FPS boost), so a lot of devs in the 2010s took to simpler minimalist designs to mitigate the resource cost, and that performance-minded philosophy unconsciously became a future design philosophy.

>>724726609
Damn what a step backwards

UI design regressed so much that I could draw it myself (it's a rectangle in MS Paint)

>>724708208 (OP)
yah

AYO HOL UP

>>724708621
i used to think so until i realized whites have been forced to babysit the lesser races until their own extinction occurs. and once whites go extinct all of humanity will die off and earth will be just another floating rock but with some flora and fauna for eons until earths obliteration.

anyway see you in 3 days cause mods are kikes and hate whites.

>>724708363
Yeah right. People are just too lazy and broke